--- Log for 05.09.109 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 1 hour ago 00.00.02 # AlexP: I usually can on my daily-use target regardless of any backlight :) 00.00.10 # plus, I'm never blind on that one ... 00.00.15 # bobrules: To reset all settings, check the manual for your player, or connect it to a computer and edit the config file in a text editor 00.00.18 # bobrules: install a voice file :-) 00.00.21 # * bluebrother giesses that bobrules refers to some color LCD target 00.00.37 # bobrules: better edit config.cfg with your pc. 00.00.39 # New commit by 03alle (r22625): Fix typos in the comment 00.00.45 # AlexP: now tell him how to reset the settings! Without knowing which player he has. 00.00.47 # yeah,when my backlight is off, the screen is empty 00.01.07 # * bluebrother wonders who took the contents of the screen away 00.01.10 # bluebrother: I'm going to guess an ipod, so hold just after booting I think :) 00.01.18 # what if I just backup my cfg file, and delete it 00.01.21 # will that work? 00.01.24 # then I restore it 00.01.30 # AlexP: why not an e200? Those are rather popular as well 00.01.39 # I have e200 00.01.41 # bluebrother: yep, it was just a guess 00.01.46 # bluebrother: That I lost :) 00.01.49 # deleting will also work. but you can also just edit it with a text editor and enable backlight again. 00.01.51 # If deleting the .cfg fixes your problem, restoring it will bring the problem right back. 00.02.08 # what's the back light setting called 00.02.15 # bobrules: starting with the facts is usually helpful, instead of waiting for people to guess around long enough to hit them ... 00.02.25 # bobrules: Have a look at the file, it is pretty obvious 00.02.47 # oh ok thanks 00.02.49 # it's called "stupid_setting_pretty_much_hidden" ;-) 00.02.52 # * bluebrother ducks and runs 00.03.10 # thanks everyone 00.03.16 # \_o< 00.03.36 # btw rockbox rules for e200 00.03.36 Join niekie_ [0] (i=quasselc@dreamworld.bergnetworks.com) 00.03.48 # it's much better than original firmware 00.03.57 Quit niekie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.01 # indeed it is 00.05.44 # btw will there ever be a lrc reader 00.06.07 # If someone codes one, sure 00.06.15 # That meets requirements 00.06.20 # it's basically a txtfile with a timestamp 00.06.30 # So go ahead and add support for it :) 00.06.30 # who needs that anyway? 00.06.43 # I can use it as a lyric reader 00.06.54 # Isn't there one in the tracker? 00.06.58 # bobrules: there is a patch for it in the tracker.. dont know the status of it. 00.06.58 # rasher: yes 00.07.08 # well, if it's intended as a lyrics reader you can use it as a lyrics reader. But who needs that? 00.07.09 # it's probably dead 00.07.10 # FS#10559 00.07.25 Quit HBK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.07.34 # I thought it was older than that, maybe that is a newer effort 00.07.36 # I usually like to look at lyrics, so I can sing along 00.07.45 # last update 3 days ago. that doesnt look dead :-) 00.07.49 # AlexP: there was an older feature request for that IIRC. 00.07.52 # * GodEater is glad he doesn't get the bus with bobrules 00.07.52 # oh they updated it 00.07.55 # AlexP: that would be sncviewer 00.08.04 # rasher: ah yes, that's it 00.08.05 Quit ender` (" The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane used to keep the pilot cool. When it stops, you can actually watch th") 00.08.06 # FS#7432 00.08.07 # * bluebrother is with GodEater :) 00.08.28 # omg thanks so much 00.08.28 # Has anyone ever though about writing a lrc to wps converter? It should be a fairly trivial thing to do with progress bar conditionals :) 00.08.45 # gevaerts: hehe 00.08.47 # gevaerts: o_O 00.08.49 # how to i use .patch file 00.08.51 # gevaerts: you're mental 00.08.57 # bobrules: you read the wiki ... 00.09.07 # bobrules: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 00.09.07 # I'll go right now 00.09.27 # omg this is the most helpful channel on irc 00.09.52 # that makes a change from "you guyz sux0r" :) 00.10.41 # bobrules: don't tell anyone I talked about this here, but maybe have a look at the "Unsupported builds" section on the forums. The lrc patch sounds like something a lot of those would include 00.11.11 # bobrules: You need to set up a build environment so that you can compile Rockbox from the source code. Then you apply that patch, which is a source code patch. Then you compile Rockbox 00.11.11 # no I like orginal build 00.11.17 # Oh my god that sounds so complicated 00.11.22 # you mean I cant just install it 00.11.32 # No, it is a source code patch 00.12.02 # The other option is that which gevaerts suggested 00.12.08 # oh 00.12.14 # * domonoky1 tells everyone that gevaerts told bobrules to go look in the unsuported forum section :-) 00.12.19 # you can't install a binary patch either. We refer to source patches only, though 00.12.21 # gevaerts did what now ? 00.12.25 # Where somebody has already done that (maybe) 00.12.35 # GodEater: He blashphemed 00.12.46 # outrageous 00.12.52 # * GodEater demands justice 00.12.57 # and chocolatge 00.13.01 # -g 00.13.08 # * scorche|sh gets out the pitchforks and torches 00.13.12 # * gevaerts hides 00.13.13 # did someone say justice? 00.13.15 # yay, smores! 00.13.20 # * domonoky1 opens beer :-) 00.13.30 # Im afraid switching to other builds might brick my player 00.13.37 # They won't 00.13.45 # Not from there anyway 00.13.50 # AlexP: going to guarantee that ? :) 00.13.53 # the e200 is pretty hard to brick 00.13.54 # GodEater: Nope 00.14.02 # Opening beer? With a pitchfork? 00.14.03 # GodEater: Not on your nelly 00.14.17 # oh and where is the unsupported forum? 00.14.19 # the only thing is, that when you swith we wont help you anymore :-) 00.14.29 Quit Omlet () 00.14.42 # bobrules: it's a section on forums.rockbox.org 00.14.46 # bobrules: you know where our forums are right ? 00.14.46 # bobrules: You should be pretty safe with those, but if you are using an unsupported build, then you don't get help here or iin the forums (outside of that thread) anymore 00.15.04 # * bluebrother points out that we have neither forums nor wiki but only make this noise for fun. 00.15.07 # what if it's very generic 00.15.21 # to fool "users" of course. 00.15.31 # bobrules: Then you install the proper build, and recreate the problem, and only then do you ask for help here. 00.16.07 # bluebrother: remember that guy that came on the forums last year who couldn't get Rockbox on his Archos? And thought the whole thing was one huge elaborate hoax? 00.16.19 # bobrules: These unsupported builds often have very large numbers of changes, so we want to make sure that any problem is in "real" Rockbox and not due to a random change someone has made 00.16.30 # bobrules: It's a pretty reasonable policy if you ask me. That way we're sure the problem/issue is really with the proper Rockbox code, and not whatever the unsupported build has added. 00.16.41 # oh ok 00.16.57 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-247-150.slkc.qwest.net) 00.17.36 # GodEater: remember my GoldenQuote in that thread? IIRC that was that thread :) 00.18.17 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.18.26 # I'll just wait for an official release of lrc reader 00.18.40 # do you guys implement patches on a regular basis 00.18.53 # yes and no 00.19.15 # It depends on a) someone taking an interest b) The patch being done properly 00.19.26 # "we" don't implement them, the authors do. "we" just commit them into the main rockbox code when we're happy they're no longer crap :) 00.19.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.49 # * GodEater caveats that he personally commits nothing, ever. 00.20.33 # despite Bagder apparently suffering from the delusion that I'm on the commiters mailing list :) 00.21.01 Quit Hillshum (Client Quit) 00.21.17 # do you guys use lrc 00.21.18 # delusions is what I do best! 00.21.40 # bobrules: not I 00.22.05 # bobrules: nope 00.22.15 # * domonoky1 thinks a lrc player might be a nice candidat for a future "in-wps" plugins. ie plugins who draw into a viewport of a wps :-) 00.23.00 # I need one so I can impress girls on the fly 00.23.16 # I can only memorize a little bit of each song 00.23.25 # you impress girls bu singing along to your mp3 player in front of them ? 00.23.27 # we don't do Rockbox to impress girls ... 00.23.30 # wow - they must be easily impressed 00.23.35 # bluebrother: We don't?! 00.23.37 # bobrules: then starte coding and improve it :-) 00.23.47 # bluebrother: so why do we do it? 00.23.50 # bluebrother: yeah, speak for yourself 00.23.50 # I can't, I only know turing 00.24.00 # he's dead 00.24.02 # ?me gently nudges us back on topic 00.24.04 # you can't know him that well 00.24.05 # gevaerts: because of no girls around? 00.24.07 # * /me 00.24.15 # AlexP: give it up 00.26.40 # nice one AlexP 00.26.44 # you killed the conversation 00.27.36 # No i'm pretty sure girls like music player firmware coders 00.27.57 # * Torne is reverse engineering the beast rom to impress boys? :) 00.28.21 # Rockbox is an equal opportunties project! 00.28.29 # we encourage diversity 00.28.32 # even furries 00.29.04 # * bluebrother wonders if there are any girls that would be impressed by a reverse engineered beast rom 00.29.31 # do you wonder if they'd be impressed enough to sleep with you? Or just generally impressed ? 00.29.34 # :D 00.29.57 # * gevaerts proposes to return to the topic 00.30.06 # * bluebrother wonders if this is the correct channel 00.30.12 # * GodEater thought this was the topic 00.36.02 # you know for the txt reader, I can't seem to scroll line by line, horizontally 00.36.56 # is it save to draw in rockbox from two different threads, or is drawing from something else then the main-thread not allowed ? 00.37.33 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-247-150.slkc.qwest.net) 00.43.44 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 00.43.49 # * domonoky1 thinks that having our demos (visualisation) or something like the lrc-viewer displayed in a wps viewport would be really nice. But if we can/should only draw from one thread, it would require some specialised plugins, where the wps calls some draw function.. sounds complicated :-/ 00.46.15 # that would be really cool 00.51.47 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.52.44 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 00.56.47 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 00.56.56 # may be we could export a function pointer from a tsr plugin via the id3-struct ? :-) then a potential plugin wps tag could just call the draw pointer if present and plugin loaded. 00.58.49 Quit gibbon_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.59.05 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 01.00.00 Join gibbon_ [0] (i=gibbon_@could.become.a.servant4you.org) 01.00.10 Quit froggyman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.04.06 # bye 01.04.09 Quit bobrules () 01.05.43 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 01.07.38 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S0106002129693a39.vc.shawcable.net) 01.16.30 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.18.30 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.23.11 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-138-190.woh.res.rr.com) 01.23.35 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.27.16 Join n00b81 [0] (n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 01.27.35 Quit n00b81 (Client Quit) 01.42.18 Quit TopyMobile__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.45.20 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@apn-77-114-67-206.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) 01.57.25 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 01.58.53 Part Xqtftqx 02.09.30 Quit Hillshum ("Ex-Chat") 02.19.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.55 Nick Zarggg_ is now known as Zarggg (n=zarggg@65.78.69.194) 02.35.02 Join jedahan [0] (n=jedahan@ool-45717d06.dyn.optonline.net) 02.35.07 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.36.03 # I just upgraded my hard drive to 120gb, but cfdisk is showing it as only 60gb. iPod 5g (originally 60gb). Is is possible that the iPod firmware is doing this? Is there a workaround? 02.41.00 # There's been no reported case of it doing that to someone else, as far as I know. 02.43.11 # hmm, gonna reboot, try inspecting it some other way, then complain to the guy I bought it from 02.43.19 Nick jedahan is now known as N_afk (n=jedahan@ool-45717d06.dyn.optonline.net) 02.46.57 # New commit by 03lowlight (r22626): Fix display bug in the Samsung YH-920 on partial lcd updates. 02.49.37 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.49.50 Quit jerl92 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 02.49.58 Join webguest55 [0] (n=ae01321a@91.191.140.131) 02.50.21 # rockbox does work on ipod nano 2g 02.50.45 Quit webguest55 (Client Quit) 02.53.03 # thanks for the info! 02.57.50 # wait a seccy!!! 03.05.11 Quit chandoo ("Leaving") 03.10.41 Join iPlayCycloDS [0] (n=62f40cf2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-apkteqdkhjhphmbz) 03.10.48 Quit iPlayCycloDS (Client Quit) 03.15.53 Nick N_afk is now known as jedahan (n=jedahan@ool-45717d06.dyn.optonline.net) 03.15.59 Join TechGuy [0] (n=rob@adsl-76-235-191-144.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 03.16.43 # wrong drive :-p, but now the right drive is showing up as 2.2tb...even though I know its not 03.16.45 # the connector must be bad :9 03.17.01 # does anyone know anything about the pp5024 03.17.31 # like where i can get the development 03.17.32 # kit 03.18.16 Join froggyman [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-186-11-249.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.18.38 # TechGuy: You can't. 03.20.02 # why not? 03.20.31 # Because they don't want you to have it. 03.20.49 # And when I say "you", I mean it in the most general way possible. 03.20.58 Part jedahan ("Leaving") 03.22.49 Quit iCub (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.25.15 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.29.25 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.41.07 Quit TechGuy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.47.42 Quit DrMoos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 03.50.25 Quit mcuelenaere () 03.51.06 Quit togetic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.53.36 Join TopyMobile_ [0] (n=topy@apn-77-114-222-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) 03.54.23 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 04.01.21 Join TechGuy [0] (n=rob@adsl-76-235-162-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 04.01.41 # why cant i get the development kit for the PP5024 04.01.48 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.02.04 # TechGuy: Because you are not a customer. 04.02.36 # so im stuck using the documentation provided by Rockbox 04.02.36 # ? 04.02.43 # TechGuy: Because you are not a customer. 04.02.44 # eh 04.02.46 # Yes 04.02.55 # Or whatever else you can find 04.03.41 # is there a way i can keep rockbox from boosting the cpu speed? 04.04.09 # Should be rather simple 04.04.14 # Why would you want to? 04.04.27 # well i wanna see how doom runs at the 30mhz clock 04.04.30 # instead of boosted 04.05.21 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.05.36 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-143-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.05.40 # TechGuy: Comment out line 666, 690 and 752 of apps/plugins/doom/rockdoom.c 04.05.42 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-143-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.06.15 # rasher i dont have the tools to compile the code 04.06.18 # This won't stop rockbox as a whole from boosting. Just Doom. 04.06.42 # I see. I guess you're stuck then. 04.12.20 # it is rather easy to get said tools.. 04.12.55 # line 666, heh 04.13.14 # didn't multiplayer doom use udp port 666? 04.13.54 # ...hmm. What kind of things are possible with the devices rockbox presents itself as on the USB bus? 04.14.30 # could it be possible to have it emulate some sort of line-in on a USB soundcard (or some device class that does the same thing) for devices with a built-in FM radio? 04.14.44 # so as to listen to FM radio through the PC it's plugged into? 04.14.50 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.15.24 # or is such an idea likely to use too much CPU power? 04.17.36 # n17ikh i like the idea but i dont know if its possible 04.18.24 Join iCub [0] (n=nick@CPE-124-179-250-110.vic.bigpond.net.au) 04.19.05 # yeah, especially not while doing mass storage too 04.19.11 # which is where it would be interesting 04.19.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.30.40 # well n17ikh are you good at C 04.30.56 # not spectacularly 04.31.04 # same here 04.31.16 # i never learned syslevel coding 04.31.20 # i know someone who is fluent in C. 04.31.38 # * scorche|sh thinks this is getting a bit offtopic 04.32.40 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 04.37.23 Quit froggyman ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]") 04.38.11 Quit TopyMobile_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.47.58 Join brn2dth [0] (n=chatzill@63.245.17.11) 04.48.11 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 04.48.22 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-179-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.06.54 Quit xavieran (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 05.07.36 Join xavieran [0] (n=xavieran@ppp118-208-177-189.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) 05.13.35 # it is possible use the mpeg plugin on a philips sa9200 or is not ready yet??? 05.15.03 # sorry first of all.... Hello people... 05.15.07 # its possible??? 05.16.25 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-247-150.slkc.qwest.net) 05.18.52 Quit intrados_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.20.02 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@71.67.138.190) 05.25.11 Join than0 [0] (n=thanaton@adsl-99-180-195-214.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 05.30.03 # anyone?? 05.31.45 Join jerl92 [0] (n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-43-31.mqdsl.megaquebec.net) 05.35.38 # brn2dth, just wait for someone that can help 05.36.39 # ok 05.40.33 # brn2dth i will check :P 05.42.25 Quit mt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.43.39 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 05.43.53 # it does not appear it works 05.44.55 # it does not work 05.45.49 # need more work in the code or the codec? because the sound work's fine.... :) 05.45.59 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 05.46.11 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 05.46.24 # sorry im not a developer all i could do was use the simulator 05.48.35 # That doesn't help any. 05.49.53 # thanks TechG... i keep trying... 05.50.08 # New commit by 03kugel (r22627): Make the Fuze usable again by inserting a few delays in the lcd functions, core rockbox should be fine now. NOTE: *After exiting* plugins (e.g. doom, ... 05.50.14 # New commit by 03kugel (r22628): Increase the button delays slightly to aid against sporadic missreads of the hold button an sporadic blue pixels on the display. 05.52.48 # anyone working on AMS sansas? 05.53.03 Part brn2dth 05.53.06 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.53.26 Quit Trista650 (Remote closed the connection) 05.58.31 # than0, I do 05.58.37 Join Trista576 [0] (n=Tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 05.59.56 # bertrik, oh.. great. 06.00.22 # I am using C200v2 with only one patch and disabled album view, and it works pretty well.. 06.02.41 # than0, I just borrowed a c200v2, playback seemed very unstable so far, which patch are you using? 06.02.42 # The patch was suggested by Freqmod (FS#9332 from Nicolas Pennequi) after changing "strncpy" to "strlcpy".. AND disabling album art per instruction. 06.03.18 # Before the patch, the playback would work for a few seconds until the buffer fills up.. so low bitrate mp3 would play a longer than higher bitrate mp3.. while flac won't play at all. 06.03.38 # After the patch, flac and high bitrate mp3s have played without a single crash. 06.04.01 # Previously, without the patch, you need to restart C200v2 to bring back audio, but interface remained stable. 06.04.22 # You can get the patch from here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9332 06.05.10 # You need to change one line (strncpy to strlcpy) to compile.. and also disable album art support.. instructions are on the patch page. 06.05.26 # bertrik: you own a clip too right? How would you compare playback of the two? 06.06.01 # Hillshum, I just received the c200v2 less than 12 hours ago, I haven't really been able to compare it 06.06.42 # Hillshum, no clip.. just C200v2, E200v1.. but I might get Clip+ (the new clip with microsd slot and folder browsing).. 06.07.23 # bertrik, well.. if you apply the patch with one line change, disable album art.. the music playback will work flawless.. including pretty much everything. 06.07.32 # some plugins will crash though 06.08.36 # Ah another thing I noticed... the using the bookmarking on microSD cards might either crash or corrupt microsd cards... but copy/paste directly from microSD to internal memory/vice versa seems pretty stable. 06.09.03 # The volume buttons don't work, but I heard that someone's working on the patch... 06.09.09 # than0, why is the strncpy to strlcpy change needed? does it just make things compile? or does it also help with stability? 06.09.39 # than0, yes, I am working on the volume buttons, should get added this weekend 06.09.55 # bertrik, just to make it compile. 06.10.35 # I think since 3.2 or 3.3.. not sure.. developers started using strlcpy instead for stability reasons.. 06.10.40 # OK, I might resync that patch with that change this weekend too 06.11.25 # just realize, I have very limited programming skills.. MSBASIC :D 06.13.02 # I guess this patch should be able to fix issues with ClipV1.. 06.16.59 # yes maybe this could be the fix for the clip/c200v2 playback issues, but it just nags me that we don't really understand what the problem with the current situation is. 06.18.04 # well.. my guess. 06.18.34 # from the fact that.. at least on C200V2, the sound would work for few seconds (and longer on lower bitrate mp3s).. seem to indicate it might be a buffering issue 06.18.46 # once those buffer gets filled up, it crashes the sound... 06.19.32 # the patch (according to author) allows mp3 to play directly from internal memory/microSD... I am not sure... but I guess less caching ? 06.19.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.20.41 # freqmod first suggested the patch on the forum, but he seems seldom online/active :( 06.20.57 # freqmod is here, but not active right now 06.27.17 # bbl..gotta play some game.. 06.30.22 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.40.34 Join ash001_ [0] (n=thanaton@adsl-99-36-20-218.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 06.52.19 Quit than0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.02.03 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5DCC0B17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.07.35 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.18.10 Quit jordoex ("No Ping reply in 30 seconds.") 07.18.44 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S0106002129693a39.vc.shawcable.net) 07.33.24 Join brn2dth [0] (n=chatzill@63.245.17.11) 07.35.02 # i've working on the mpegplayer for the sa9200 and in the simulator works... but i cant make it... 07.35.05 # any idea??? 07.36.45 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.37.15 # brn2dth i couldnt get it working in the simulator 07.39.46 # i just patch the plugins... and convert the video to iAudio X5 with WinFF and Works!... on the simulator... 07.40.34 # make the firmware for the DAP and make a full new install but... still not working... :( 07.41.56 # i use the patch for the keymaps... http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10431 07.43.45 # ill keep trying... ;) 07.43.55 Quit brn2dth ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]") 07.45.15 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.51.21 Quit jerl92 () 07.54.57 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.05.49 Quit mt (Remote closed the connection) 08.19.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.27.46 Quit iCub (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.32.50 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCF9CE.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.39.56 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.50.15 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host214-146-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.57.19 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 09.10.18 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.11.04 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.19.47 Quit ash001_ ("Ex-Chat") 09.20.52 Join iCub [0] (n=nick@CPE-124-179-250-110.vic.bigpond.net.au) 09.26.08 Join jvd_ [0] (n=syscrash@209.126.180.153) 09.26.08 Quit jvd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.27.48 Nick niekie_ is now known as niekie (i=quasselc@dreamworld.bergnetworks.com) 09.28.05 Quit killan_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09.28.44 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-0efa70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.36.15 Join pamaury [0] (n=apouly@slsu0-20.ens-lyon.fr) 09.37.24 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 09.37.47 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.49.57 Join DarkDefender [0] (n=rob@78-69-30-229-no36.tbcn.telia.com) 09.54.04 Quit SUSaiyan` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.00.22 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 10.09.15 Quit pamaury ("Parti") 10.19.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.21.01 Join jon-kha [0] (i=jon-kha@83.150.91.127) 10.21.41 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 10.23.41 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.27.57 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@140.77.26.90) 10.43.11 Quit jordoex (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.47.05 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4F0C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.51.04 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@91-64-221-175-dynip.superkabel.de) 10.52.15 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.54.57 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r22629): Make mkamsboot Makefile operate silent per default. 10.59.19 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.05.33 # so, when do we freeze for the next release? 11.12.18 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 11.17.35 # iirc we usually release on the 23rd and freeze two(?) weeks before that, so the 9th? 11.19.41 Join bluefoxx [0] (i=notatrap@S0106005004792985.vs.shawcable.net) 11.19.57 # Anybody in here know something about the Iriver H10? 11.20.22 # I have one here with a toasted disk that I want to replace with a compact flash card and turn into a rockboxx'd player... 11.20.39 # And nobody elsewhere seems to know anything about them. 11.21.06 # So far I know that they bastardized the nice and standard CF connector with an annoying ribbon cable, and thats it... 11.22.18 # bluefoxx: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 11.22.44 # it's not a basterdized cf connector, it's a zif connector of some standard apparently 11.22.47 # n1s: Cool 11.22.51 # Annoying though 11.22.56 # yes 11.23.06 # 'cause I can get like a 4Gb CF card from work for like, nothing. 11.23.16 # I got the iriver from there. was about to be scrapped. 11.23.29 # the regular cf interface is the best feature of the ipod minis by far :) 11.23.29 # and I saw it and went "Oh hey, I can fix that" 11.23.43 # Also got back one of my old sansa's that the screen went wonkey on 11.23.56 # think i'll rockbox it again and turn on voice menues 11.24.18 # I'm suddenly swimming in surplus audoi storage and playback toys... 11.26.15 # sorry, it's apparently a zif connector on the big h10 and "F-FLEX" on the small 11.27.14 # big as in capacaty or physical size? 11.27.40 # because my e200 is tiny in size but holds 24Gb of music, which is huge. 11.28.27 # both, the big h10 is 20GB and the small is 5/6BG 11.28.32 # right 11.28.35 # this is a 6 gig 11.31.28 Join sinthetek [0] (n=sinthete@cpe-075-183-051-184.triad.res.rr.com) 11.31.57 # does anyone know if there is a way to make rockbox itself reformat a sd card? 11.32.01 # Is there some kind of adaptor for this, similar to what a 2.5" drive in a laptop frequently uses? 11.32.17 # sinthetek: microsd card in a sansa? 11.32.21 # yeah 11.32.27 # plug it into your pc 11.32.32 # it shows up as a cardreader 11.32.42 # and than use the tool of your choice 11.32.49 # works great for me at least 11.32.49 # it's not doing that, that's why i wanna reformat it :\ 11.32.57 # well, it creates a device for it 11.33.08 # but i cannot seem to get it to function right 11.33.08 # windows or linux? 11.33.12 # linux 11.33.21 # your on your own than 11.33.30 # i haven't touched that in a year and a half and a bit 11.33.34 # it was showing up as sdg1 but now it's showing as sdg 11.33.40 # oh 11.33.44 # download gparted 11.33.50 # when i try to orun mkfs.vfat it says 'no medium found' now 11.34.00 # ahh it needs a new partition table? 11.34.12 # you formated the entire device, iirc 11.34.17 # instead of partitioning it 11.34.32 # 'i accidentally the partition' 11.35.23 # i cannot dd it either 11.35.39 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@ool-45701ce5.dyn.optonline.net) 11.35.39 # which is how i broke it to begin with 11.36.05 # sinthetek: rockbox can not format the card 11.36.22 # i was trying to use it to install ubuntu netbook remix (the only usb-device i have big enough to do it) 11.36.23 Quit z35 (Client Quit) 11.37.20 # i did the dd command to copy the install image to the microsd card and it was working but i cancelled it before it finished 11.37.50 # so no device is created for it? 11.37.55 # http://tinyurl.com/ataflexseagate is what i want correct? 11.38.04 # the PDFs they link 404 11.38.08 Join PaulJam [0] (n=Paule@p54BEDF79.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.38.16 # n1s some sort of device file is created but i cannot do anything with it 11.38.56 # sinthetek: fdisk can't partition it? 11.38.58 # lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-09-05 05:30 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Rockbox_SD_Card_Slot_9000000000000000087B3243204E20664-0:1 -> ../../sdg 11.39.15 # dd: opening `/dev/sdg': No medium found 11.39.23 # when i tried to run cfdisk on it 11.39.49 # it said fatal error cannot open disk drive 11.39.52 # maybe the cardslot is damaged or the connector dirty? 11.40.25 # i haven't done anything to it since it was working a few min ago... 11.40.34 # i'll try cleaning it out or something 11.40.39 # Than why format it? 11.40.47 # If it works, don't fix it. 11.41.15 # I learned that the hard way when dicking around wiht linux and my first mp3 player a couple years back. 11.41.19 # i can still mount the main rockbox files/storage, just not the microsd 11.41.38 # go make friends with a windows user 11.41.46 # bluefoxx: it isn't working. i cannot mount the microsd or dd-to it to accomplish my original task 11.42.35 # since i can't mount it i cannot even restore the music that was on there before i tried to use it as an install medium 11.43.12 # currently it's just a 4gb sdcard with half of an ubuntu netbook remix install image 11.43.15 # on it* 11.43.35 # that i cannot access externally* 11.44.20 # what do you mean you cancelled it. You pulled the plug? 11.45.16 # Galois i rebooted 11.45.23 # hard or soft 11.45.56 # soft but i dunno if it was able to properly stop the dd that was in progress 11.46.23 # i tried to cancel it with ^c but it wasn't working so after a few min i just rebooted anyway 11.46.32 # even if it was stopped the fs on the card is probably broken so don't expect to be able to mount it 11.47.00 # n1s i didn't expect to mount it but it seems rockbox is able to mount it 11.47.31 # i can see the files from the installer image from inside rockbox 11.48.03 # but plugging it in doesn't create a device for the microsd card that i can do anything with (dd, cfdisk, mount, etc) 11.48.18 # mkfs 11.48.24 # is the card sdhc or regular sd? 11.49.44 # sdhc 11.50.23 # ok, so the OF is no help then, it does sound more like a linux problem than a rockbox problem though... 11.50.57 # yeah :\ 11.51.47 # dunno if it means anything but after i plug it into usb, it seems the dir disappears until i reboot the device 11.51.51 # does that tell you anything? 11.54.02 # turn the player on, pull the card, reboot the player and plug the card in, try a format 12.01.08 # nada 12.05.33 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.05.46 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@rps6752.ovh.net) 12.09.48 # ok, it just occurred to me that this netbook still has xp on it 12.10.03 # so i tried to connect and it seems to be doing the same thing pretty much as linux 12.10.34 # when i try to format it it says to insert a disk into that drive 12.11.02 # format/open it* 12.15.09 # how about windows fdisk, or diskmanager or whatever they call it nowadays 12.16.04 # i wouldn't expect windows to format media with a broken partition table any more than linux 12.17.04 Join iCub_ [0] (n=nick@CPE-124-177-22-34.vic.bigpond.net.au) 12.17.59 # i dunno how to run it if i don't know what it's called :P 12.19.01 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.19.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.23.41 # sinthetek: right click "My Computer" and choose "Manage" 12.24.05 # in the window that opens expand the tree on the left until you find "Disk Administrator" or similar 12.24.57 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 12.31.49 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 12.32.02 Part voluspa ("Time makes no sense") 12.33.33 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@AStrasbourg-251-1-54-192.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.34.23 Quit iCub (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.40.03 # tthanks GodEater but still don't see a way to format it or anything :\ 12.40.47 # sinthetek: you likely need to partition it first 12.46.19 Quit vitja ("Ex-Chat") 12.48.42 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.48.57 # n1s i figured as much, i don't see any way to do so 12.49.22 # does it not show up in the disk manager thingy? 12.49.34 # the top half of the screen doesn't list the microsd drive. the bottom half lists it but doesn't indicate that there is any 'space' 12.49.52 # right-clicking only lists properties and the 'change drive letter' option 12.51.22 # is this still through the sansa card slot? 12.52.31 # maybe trying through a different card reader would help 12.52.58 # but realy i don't think this has much todo with rockbox so this is not really the best place to get help 12.53.48 # that's the only microsd slot i have :\ 12.54.05 # you guys are a lot better than the people in #linux :P 12.55.02 # i don't think it is necessarily a rockbox problem either. i initially just came to ask if there was a way to do something directly with rockbox 12.55.35 # thanks for trying to help though 12.57.08 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.20.32 # kugel: another issue with the custom SB v2 patch: it seems that alternating sublines are not working anymore, only the first subline is shown. 13.23.29 # I didn't have that problem, just that the lines are changing very quickly 13.32.44 # kugel: it seems r22610 caused fs#10588 13.35.38 Quit DarkDefender (Remote closed the connection) 13.35.43 Join TopyMobile_ [0] (n=topy@apn-77-114-189-186.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) 13.38.30 Quit iCub_ ("Ex-Chat") 13.45.45 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 13.47.59 Quit J-23 (Remote closed the connection) 13.48.19 Join J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 13.49.46 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 13.50.25 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.50.56 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 13.52.39 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 13.52.53 Join funm4n [0] (n=5a2a6a49@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-wsrzlcetjrptaoti) 13.53.40 # bertrik: the radio worked fine when I tested it on c200v2 13.55.59 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (n=cold@p54A5D413.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.56.41 # oh weird, I get nothing but noise from it in rockbox (it works in the OF) 13.57.05 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 13.57.07 # the fm tuner chip seems to be a slightly older revision as the one in my clip 13.57.41 Join spacetraveler [0] (n=spacetra@host86-156-76-87.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) 13.58.41 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 13.59.21 Quit funm4n ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.00.09 Join funm4n [0] (n=funm4n@AAnnecy-158-1-23-73.w90-42.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.00.43 # bertrik perhaps look at the changes to the tuner chip after I enabled c200v2 14.01.11 # there could have been a change breaking the older chip revision in the c200v2 14.01.50 # at devcon euro 2009 I made a change that fixed e200v2 radio (and still worked with the clip) maybe this broke c200v2 radio ... 14.03.19 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@140.77.26.90) 14.03.55 Join Creposucre [0] (n=53c31a26@91.191.140.131) 14.04.04 # I dont remember if i had tested it 14.04.35 # what was the change needed to read the other buttons on dbop ? 14.04.44 Quit spacetraveler ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info/") 14.05.01 # Any radio guru around? 14.05.32 Join _Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 14.06.27 # Creposucre just ask what you need (there is bertrik not too far) 14.06.37 # thanks 14.07.07 # funm4n, the write of the red pixel to the LCD only uses 8 bits of the DBOP data pins (it's only 8 bits wide toward the LCD), but the other buttons were on the high part of the DBOP data bus. I'm now explicilty programming DBOP to write to 8 high bits too and it now longer does the LCD red pixel thing 14.07.57 # just wondered how to do with the HAVE_TUNER_MULTI in tuner.c (I added again the RDS stuff in FS494 for test purposes) 14.08.32 # I doubt what I did is clean 14.08.48 # I don't know, I think it was required for some specific target with two tuner chips, but I'm not sure 14.08.59 # bertrik did you apply these changes to the bootloader to see if it makes the lcd stay always on ? 14.09.10 # funm4n, no not yet 14.09.10 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.09.11 Nick _Xerion is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 14.11.36 # bertrik: it looks that is what you say, but I don't know any target which owe two 14.12.39 Quit funm4n ("Java user signed off") 14.13.12 # Maybe it was added "just in case". If it complicates other things, I'm in favour of removing this multi tuner mechanism until really needed. 14.14.01 # I'm ok with that, for my concern 14.15.09 # how can decide or validate that? 14.15.20 # "who" 14.17.01 # the rockbox decision making process can be a bit fuzzy 14.17.32 # lol 14.18.57 # CONFIG_TUNER_MULTI is used by the ondio fm 14.19.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.20.12 # ah yes I vaguely remember one of the targets could have different radio chips depending on hardware revision or something like that, so we need to support both 14.20.37 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.21.08 # so we can't remove the mechanism 14.21.16 # :( 14.24.04 Quit Xerion_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.25.04 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.27.02 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 14.27.41 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 14.27.44 # is there an actual problem with CONFIG_TUNER_MULTI? 14.28.02 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 14.29.41 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 14.34.43 # gevaerts: i'd like to had some things to support RDS text on the radio screen 14.36.12 # that requires to add some things in tuner.c to bring that support for others targets 14.37.53 Join DrMoos [0] (i=mostafa@85.171.100.120) 14.38.03 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133112132.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.38.51 # but surely MULTI doesn't make that impossible? 14.40.48 Join petur [0] (n=peter@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.41.56 # I actually made an attempt in the last patch, i'm gonna test it with the ondio fm 14.43.41 # from a *very* quick look I think that looks ok 14.48.52 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 14.49.23 # compiler doesn't seem to like the define HAVE_RDS_CAP in the middle of the case type 14.53.43 Nick markun_ is now known as markun (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 14.59.24 Join Tech-Guy [0] (n=rob@adsl-76-235-162-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 15.00.12 Quit TopyMobile_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.00.26 Quit PaulJam (".") 15.01.56 # Another question: How come that an ipod video 60G takes more time than a 30g (5G) to boot? 15.02.27 # New commit by 03teru (r22630): remove extra 1 element in arrays. use same counter for both manual and auto fire. break long lines. 15.02.57 # ~15s for the 30G, barely scratching on the HD, ~30s for the 60G scratching like hell 15.03.03 # dircache removed 15.07.24 # can c200 owners please test the fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10586 ? 15.08.19 # it fixes a problem navigating in the time setting menu for me, not completely sure it is free of side effects 15.10.34 Quit yosafbridge ("Coyote finally caught me") 15.10.42 Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@ludios.net) 15.12.57 Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@host-091-097-059-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.16.01 # is there any documentation what tables the buildserver expects in the mysql db ? 15.17.34 Quit TechGuy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.22.43 Quit Windlord (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.24.56 # * gevaerts wishes that more people would remember that the bootloader assumes 512-byte sectors when reporting partition sizes 15.25.05 # or maybe we should just fix that 15.27.31 Quit bluefoxx () 15.30.03 Join chandoo [0] (n=chandoo@ool-4353b978.dyn.optonline.net) 15.30.45 # if i run a buildsever locally, how do i tell it to start a build-round ? 15.31.55 # isn't there some sort of telnet interface? 15.32.33 Quit chandoo (Client Quit) 15.33.28 # looks like it from the code, but how to use it ? 15.34.23 # bertrik: I don't think it's the right fix 15.34.48 # that looks like it would make it impossible to hold left for going to the root in the filebrowser 15.35.54 # instead, you should probably insert a "{ACTION_NONE, BUTTON_LEFT, BUTTON_NONE}" line into the timescreen keymap 15.38.16 Quit TheSphinX^ ("XChat@Linux") 15.38.57 # domonoky: I don't know more about it than you... From the code, it seems that the "commander" uses a slightly different HELLO syntax, and then supports UPDATE and BUILD commands, but that's about all I understand from it 15.39.42 Nick jvd_ is now known as jvd (n=syscrash@209.126.180.153) 15.39.55 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 15.40.00 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.41.20 # gevaerts: thanks, the correct HELLO did it :-) 15.41.47 # now to find out how the mysql tables should look like. 15.43.36 Quit Creposucre ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.45.08 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 15.47.06 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 15.50.02 # domonoky: do you know about the read-only access to the database? 15.50.28 # no, that would be good to get the table layout :-) 15.50.52 Join wincent_balin [0] (n=wincent@host-091-097-059-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.51.09 # mysql server: buildmaster.rockbox.org username: rockbox password: FVUKynGTzzEad3Nq 15.51.52 # amiconn: ping 15.52.54 # domonoky: "mysqldump --single-transaction --no-data -h buildmaster.rockbox.org -u rockbox --password=FVUKynGTzzEad3Nq rockbox" should give you what you need I think 15.53.12 # thanks 16.02.13 # hm, only haveing 1 new client gives 0 points/sec which causes a divison by zero :-) 16.05.22 Quit wincent (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.19.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.24.02 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-172-245.cust.bredband2.com) 16.25.47 Quit stoffel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.30.19 # n1s: the radio crash is apparently caused by the assumption "meh, the list code hopefully handles this stopping of scrolling for me" 16.32.06 # same problem as with the quickscreen. but the parent vp for the radio is on the stack, hence scrolling code crashes. the quickscreen viewports aren't on the stack, so it keeps scrolling after exiting 16.33.08 # hm, looks like the buildserver has serious problems it if has only one client and the client isnt in the stats. bestfit_builds never returns :-/ 16.38.28 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.38.35 # New commit by 03kugel (r22631): Fix bug in viewports preparation (screen.lcdwidth() isn't really proper for this in times of custom ui vp), and stop all scrolling before exiting ... 16.38.39 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4F0C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.38.41 # New commit by 03kugel (r22632): Fix FS#10588 by stopping scrolling in the radio screen instead of blindy relying on list code (which doesn't just stop scrolling entirely for the ... 16.40.51 Quit Xerion (" ") 16.44.40 # * domonoky was wrong.bestfit_builds() never finishes, when we have builds and no clients for them 16.45.29 Join DarkDefender [0] (n=rob@78-69-30-229-no36.tbcn.telia.com) 16.48.01 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 16.50.31 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 16.52.55 Quit AndyI () 16.54.02 # kugel, but I want to be able to go left and right in the time settings screen, so I don't want to set it to ACTION_NONE 16.55.33 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.02.21 # bertrik: i saw you wrote some very early NAND code for a S5L8700 target? 17.03.16 # I've got a working NAND driver for S5L8701 now, so you might want to try that out on the 8700, as it's extremely similar (even thogh some minor things seem to have changed on the 8701) 17.03.23 # TheSeven, it's only the NAND identification, basically following what the datasheet says for that and corrected a bit according to what I saw in disassembled firmware 17.04.19 # nice 17.04.52 # I am able to read the raw NAND with a Samsung utility that can be downloaded as a DFU and a windows tool that can talk to it 17.05.35 # ok, that's good, so you can compare results :-) 17.05.36 # What kind of NAND functions are in your driver? 17.05.41 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 17.05.51 # init/identify/read/write/erase? 17.05.53 # get_chip_id / read_page / program_page / block_erase 17.07.20 # yep, and init of course 17.07.47 # it isn't too complex, just 300 lines of C 17.08.34 # do you do anything with the OOB or "spare" data? 17.08.49 # yep, i'm checking the ECC stuff 17.08.57 # I have not really looked into that, but as far as I understand, that is used for metadata and error correction 17.09.13 # (not using the on-the-fly ecc features, as apple didn't use them either, so there may be something wrong with them) 17.09.56 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-247-150.slkc.qwest.net) 17.09.59 # well, the actual layout of the spare bytes may be different on the other players, but adjusting that shouldn't be too hard 17.10.47 # I'm still not even sure how to approach the whole thing, whether to try to keep compatible with the OF or put a whole new FTL on top of it (which one?) 17.10.58 # on the ipod, the first 0xC bytes are metadata, then there are 0x28 bytes of data ECC, then 0xC bytes of meta ECC 17.11.14 # or how bootloading shoudl be done on these targetrs 17.11.31 # bertrik: they are using whimory, too? we should look into whether that's a newer/older version than on the ipod 17.11.44 # I was seeing 9-byte blocks in the spare area of the samsung yp-s3 and various other-sized blocks 17.12.07 Quit gibbon_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.12.07 # I should have put that info on a wiki... :) 17.12.35 # The Whimory version could be found as simple text strings in the firmwares I looked at 17.13.16 # IIRC, the Samsung YP-S3 uses a signature of 220W, to indicate Whimory 2.2.0, the Meizus used a slightly older version 17.14.10 # I also looked at the iphoneboot code, but couldn't really map it to what I was seeing on the Meizus and the Samsung yp-s3 17.14.19 # i'm asking that because there is some nice example code in openiboot, and the ipod one seems to be a little older than the iphone one (both use a "A004" signature on the first blocks, and the version number in the FTLCxt block didn't even exist yet on the ipod 17.14.39 # it maps quite good to the ipod, though 17.16.08 Quit antil33t () 17.17.28 # is there a "A003" / "A004" signature on the first pages and "DEVICEINFOSIGN" / "DEVICEINFOBBT" on the last ones (of each bank)? 17.18.32 # I looked for strings like that, but couldn't find them in the samsung yp-s3 NAND 17.18.47 # not good :-/ 17.25.45 Join vedos [0] (n=draft@a91-153-112-66.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 17.25.52 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 17.26.00 # how do i quit Doom on Rockbox iPod G2? 17.28.20 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S0106002129693a39.vc.shawcable.net) 17.29.26 Part decayedcell 17.35.03 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-19-21.unitymediagroup.de) 17.35.25 # vedos: what does the manual say about it? 17.37.42 Quit teru ("Quit") 17.39.22 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4F0C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.40.17 # bertrik: I mean setting BUTTON_LEFT to do nothing with it. you can still set BUTTON_LEFT|BUTTON_[REL|REPEAT] to go left in the screen 17.40.36 # just unmap or remap the the button that does ACTION_STD_CANCEL 17.43.21 Quit vedos ("Lähdössä") 17.47.13 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=bughunte@unaffiliated/bughunter2) 17.47.51 # Hey, for the Sansa AMS targets, USB is listed as 'No', what does this mean in reality? Like, you can't charge, or transfer files, via USB? 17.47.55 # I'd suppose you could at least charge it? 17.48.12 # charging has nothing at all to do with usb 17.48.25 # exactly 17.48.45 # in practice it means that it reboots to the OF on USB connect 17.48.54 # ah 17.49.30 # so, no file transfer 17.49.38 # then, how to test if playback works? :) 17.49.55 # I'm thinking about buying a Sansa AMS and help development 17.50.30 # not "no file transfer". "reboot to the OF for file transfer" 17.50.57 # oh that way of course, so after that you can still boot RB 17.51.17 # makes sense 17.52.35 Join Rand_Althor [0] (n=chatzill@76.250.190.151) 17.53.59 # Will RB build faster in Ubuntu with a dual core processor (instead of a single core)? 17.54.19 # if you run make -j2, sure 17.54.55 # Thanks you. I assume that if I had 4 cores it would be -j4? 17.55.26 # there are benchmarks floating around which you could check out to see what the best option would be 17.55.35 # basically, try it and see :) 17.55.49 # TY 17.57.08 Quit Rand_Althor (Client Quit) 18.00.29 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 18.03.50 # kugel, ok ,I think I understand, adding an ACTION_NONE for a specific button prevents a "fall-through" to the standard context, right? 18.04.30 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 18.12.05 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 18.19.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.28.23 Quit Tech-Guy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.34.57 Quit Trista576 (Client Quit) 18.36.47 Join Tristan46 [0] (n=Tristan@edge.sh3lls.net) 18.43.23 # bertrik: yes 18.43.42 # ok, I'll cook up another patch and add it to the task 18.47.24 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.51.50 # I can probably enable charging for the c200v2s 18.53.53 # is there any news on the recovery method for the sansa clip/fuze? 18.54.20 # haven't found much on it on the forums/wiki, at least no easy/reliable method 18.55.03 # bughunter2: there is no recovery method if the bootloader install goes wrong. but its also very unlikely to break. 18.55.44 # domonoky: okay, so I could help by buying e.g. a Fuze and have some fun developing? :) 18.56.15 # I'd like to help development, and have a sensible player on which I can test stuff 18.56.30 # I like the sansa's for their replaceable memory cards 18.56.32 # bughunter2: sure, it already runs pretty well on fuze (v1). see the testbuild forum. 18.56.57 # aye, but where to get a fuze v1... 18.57.13 # I would think that the things sold in shops now is all v2 18.58.56 # s/is/are 18.59.46 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 18.59.54 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 19.00.55 # domonoky: any idea on fuze v2? The status page lists it isn't in SVN yet, but is there someone with the code for fuze v2 that I could test? 19.01.35 # i dont know. 19.01.40 # k 19.02.28 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-kkunetzdisfmoovk) 19.10.50 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2") 19.19.08 Join PaulJam [0] (n=Paule@p54BEFA57.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.52 Join Xqtftqx1 [0] (n=tyler@d118-75-237-45.try.wideopenwest.com) 19.34.17 Quit barrywardell () 19.34.53 # kugel: just a wild guess, but could FS#9842 have the same cause as FS#10588 ? 19.37.52 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 19.59.25 # PaulJam: very possible, same symptoms 20.07.40 # PaulJam: indeed, applying the same fix works 20.07.45 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.07.54 # nice 20.10.48 # New commit by 03kugel (r22633): Fix FS#9842 by stopping scrolling before leaving the yesno screen. ... 20.10.59 # PaulJam: nice find! 20.12.26 Quit n00b81 ("Ex-Chat") 20.13.54 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (n=court@unaffiliated/courtc) 20.16.31 # kugel: are there install directions for the YH players anywhere on the wiki? 20.16.42 # I don't think so 20.17.17 # ok 20.19.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.20.32 # Just ordered a sansa e260, presumably it's a v2. If so, I'm going to test the e200v2 :) 20.21.35 Quit PaulJam (".") 20.21.37 # (the test build that is) 20.24.28 # Bagder: email sent about the new supported status system 20.24.56 # imo the best way to make this happen is for you to update the front page with the AMS targets and then post ont he mailing list asking what else needs to be changed 20.25.27 # that will probably be the D2, YH, and Beast once the wiki pages are cleaned up 20.26.18 # One thing I didn't see discussed in the mailing list thread was risk. 20.26.47 # Any of those targets have a potential risk of damage to the hardware through (mis) use? 20.27.14 # i just assumed that who ever was developing a port would keep that in mind when suggesting unstable status 20.27.31 # (ie battery charging issues / data corruption to the point extraordinary measures are needed to rectify / etc.) 20.27.44 # we've generally be extremely cautious about that anyway when proposing test builds and i don't think that will change in the new system 20.27.56 # Exactly. I'm not 100% sure that we discussed this in Gent, but I think we did. If the porters are confident, it's fine 20.28.39 # i think risk is probably less in this system since it discourages third parties from distributing bootloaders and builds in favor of ones we've actually tested 20.28.51 # my fear, possibly baseless, is that a "marginal" port with potential risks will get youtubed and ... 20.29.27 # well sooner or later it'd happen anyway, better that it happens here where we can pull the download link quickly 20.30.35 # I believe I agree with your conclusion that the risk is likely less in this proposed system, because you bring in "in house" - but you also run the risk of "legitimizing" it. All that said - your point about relying on the porter to make the decision, and trusting in them to not encourage undo risk is likely all the answer I needed to my question. 20.34.04 Part Xqtftqx1 20.34.37 # do people mind allowing rbutil to install unstable ports? 20.38.12 # well, we currently have support for unstable ports in it. I was thinking about adding some unstable indication icon somewhere, but apart from that (and IMO we should really indicate that it's an unstable port the user is going to install) I'm fine with adding support. 20.40.06 # saratoga: I'll write up installation instructions 20.40.31 # for the YH* 20.40.51 # great 20.41.20 # bluebrother: maybe a pop up warning saying its unstable and to read the wiki for port status? 20.41.52 # saratoga: maybe something like this. Haven't made up my mind what I consider best :) 20.42.42 # ok so long as being unsupported doesn't discourage people from adding rbutil support for a port 20.44.04 Quit merbanan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.46.26 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 20.46.28 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.46.35 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 20.46.35 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.46.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.46.55 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.48.02 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 20.48.30 # * domonoky has a buildclient/server which currently builds rbutil :-) 20.49.56 # unfortunatly my test-setup is still unable to upload the log, so it aborts after a build :-/ 20.52.51 # New commit by 03kugel (r22634): Put the quickscreen viewports onto the stack (saving a tiny bit of ram), and simplify the preparing and drawing functions a bit. 20.55.15 Join panni__ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-19-21.unitymediagroup.de) 20.57.06 # New commit by 03bertrik (r22635): Sansa c200v2: update DBOP button reading mechanism, this enables readout of the volume buttons, rec and hold button. 20.57.09 # soap: Interesting post in the forums, GodEater and I were discussing just that yesterday :) Anyway, I replied there with my thoughts 20.59.06 # i don't mind having unstable ports mixed in with the others 20.59.17 # on the forums 20.59.26 # but i don't think it makes a huge difference either 20.59.29 # saratoga: Yes, I agree on balance 21.00.09 # bertrik: didn't you want to write something to the dev mail w.r.t. to where to have the dbop stuff? 21.00.40 # yeah, maybe later this week 21.00.49 # now the AMS targets have reading dbop in at different places... 21.04.03 Part bughunter2 21.04.03 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-130-78-76.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 21.04.07 # AlexP, it was a poorly worded brain-dump if anything. ;) I just wanted to start getting some feedback on it. Anything, IMHO, to get interested parties to move their support work on these targets "into the fold" from the scattered corners of the internet where they are now. 21.04.28 # soap: i COMPLETELY AGREE 21.04.30 # New commit by 03kugel (r22636): Don't forget the touchscreen targets! 21.04.33 # er, sorry 21.07.03 # I mentioned wiki contributers specifically, because I'm thinking wiki updates will be of even higher importance with these targets than the current crop. As much as I would like to see "dedicated" users reading the full New Ports threads, I don't think that will actually happen and it would be nice to have all the relevant info reliably in the wiki. But keeping the wiki current canon is a lot of work. 21.08.52 Quit panni_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.11.01 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@apn-77-114-180-8.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) 21.12.52 # soap: Yep, I think if we are going to use the bagde as a sort of "general good egg" reward without the far reaching forum powers the current experts have, then we can use them to recognise people that contribute in other ways too, e.g. the wiki 21.13.18 # "general good egg" and "listen to this poster". 21.14.02 # yep 21.15.50 Quit Hillshum ("Ex-Chat") 21.16.01 Join p3tur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.19.13 Quit jordoex (Remote closed the connection) 21.20.41 Join webguest73 [0] (n=4cfabe97@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-kcfnomqleryqxejb) 21.21.12 # on Ubuntu. I just rand rockboxdev.sh. How do I "make my path include :/usr/local/arm-elf/bin"? 21.21.25 # *rand = ran 21.21.35 Quit at0m (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.22.35 # easiest way, imho, is to edit .bashrc 21.22.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling#Getting_Started 21.23.18 # follow those directions, they're written for ubuntu 21.23.31 # thank you 21.24.07 # which directions where you using 21.25.47 # the HowToCompile wiki page is probably unneeded now that we have SimpleGuideToCompiling and LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling 21.27.21 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.28.34 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 21.28.35 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.29.27 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 21.29.27 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.30.19 Quit AndyI (Client Quit) 21.32.39 # am I still connected? 21.33.03 # when I try to make --- /bin/sh: arm-elf-gcc: not found 21.33.49 # ubuntu 9.04 21.34.53 # did you run rockboxdev.sh in the tools dir? 21.35.44 # not in the tools dir. 21.36.17 # i think that's where it is anyway 21.36.25 # i had an old copy. oops. i'll try that 21.39.05 Join TechGuy [0] (n=rob@adsl-76-235-162-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.39.22 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 21.39.50 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S0106002129693a39.vc.shawcable.net) 21.44.49 # webguest73: If you just added it .bashrc then you need to close the terminal and open a new one 21.46.29 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=Lynx@xdsl-78-34-99-30.netcologne.de) 21.46.58 # I did. 21.47.44 # Either way, google would be handy for you here - this is basic linux usage, nothing rockbox specific 21.52.32 # I don't know if it was the old rockboxdev, or not being in the tools dir when I ran it, but I'm good now. Just built RB. 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