--- Log for 13.09.109 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 17 days and 1 hour ago 00.04.06 Join Zarggg [0] (i=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.05.20 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by rasher (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 00.07.23 # well, the plugin is compiled for targets that are swcodec, have recording and have line-in or mic-in. So the Archoses are not included because they are hwcodec, I don't know what happens for the Clip 00.08.42 # heh 00.09.49 # pixelma: but there is no red, so I assume Clips are either not compiled or are covered somehow 00.10.21 Quit mt (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 00.18.55 # New commit by 03alle (r22687): Quit with an error message if the LCD is not supported 00.19.33 Join LightFuzeAndRun [0] (n=438d5c42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-wktendovcyfmvomb) 00.23.14 Join Pilif12p [0] (n=Tanner@173-20-179-8.client.mchsi.com) 00.23.16 Join Keripo [0] (n=Keripo@eng046.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 00.23.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.23.57 # Hi, can someone guide me through the process of installing rockbox on my Sansa e250? 00.24.25 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.25.15 # (Could anyone see what i just said; I wan't identified) 00.25.37 # New commit by 03alle (r22688): Fix red 00.31.37 # New commit by 03alle (r22689): Revert everything to a workable state until the issue is investigated properly 00.33.12 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 00.34.09 Join Strife1989 [0] (n=Strife89@adsl-154-15-234.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.34.34 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 00.34.45 # Pilif12p: have you read the forum and wiki? 00.34.51 # Pilif12p: Have you read the manual? 00.35.08 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (n=Strife89@adsl-154-15-234.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.35.08 # bughunter2: Manual first (assuming it is a v1) :) 00.35.15 # * bughunter2 assumed it was a v2 00.35.41 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 00.41.09 # its a v2 00.41.17 # then see the forum 00.41.29 # is there a link? 00.41.34 # use your brain 00.41.58 # I really hate to bother anyone but I am stuck! I am very interested in helping to port Rockbox to the V2 Sansa Fuze. I have some knowledge of electronics and programming, but I have never done any reverse engineering or systems programming of any kind. From what I understand the SoC in the Fuze uses a ARM processor? If so I will need to learn the assembly language used for that architecture? In order to 00.42.04 # Pilif12p: there is a test build available on the forum 00.42.10 # oh 00.42.32 # LightFuzeAndRun: your message got cut off after "in order to" 00.43.04 # LightFuzeAndRun: if you need to reverse, then you'd need to learn some ARM, yes 00.43.32 # here is the rest 00.43.36 # In order to decompile the original firmware I will need a tool like IDA Pro? Why do I need to decompile the original firmware to start with? What all is needed to port Rockbox to the V2 Fuze? Drivers?? What am I wrong about? What am I missing? Please help me! As you can tell I am very confused right now. Thanks --John- 00.43.49 # you mean 'disassemble', not 'decompile' 00.43.55 # yes 00.44.47 # please have a look at the wiki for information regarding the current status of the port 00.44.50 # this one? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22137.0 00.44.57 # It says e200 00.45.10 # you can read that as 'e2xx' 00.45.43 # I have looked through it but could not find much about the V2 fuse 00.45.48 # or fuze 00.45.51 # Pilif12p: (meaning it should work on your e250) 00.46.00 # Alright. 00.46.04 # Pilif12p: e200 is the e200 series 00.46.18 # Okay. 00.47.39 # LightFuzeAndRun: to be honest, there is probably much work to be done for the fuze v2 port, and if you have *no* prior experience you're going to have a hard time 00.47.51 # or need lots of help with every single step 00.48.19 # I know. I would like to learn this stuff anyway could you tell me quickly how I might start? 00.48.26 # 'quickly' ? 00.48.34 # well you know 00.48.47 # I am a quick learner 00.48.52 # so am I 00.48.54 # and do not need hand holding 00.49.05 # you probably will if you have no prior experience 00.49.10 # you already need hand holding at the moment 00.49.15 # which is proof of that 00.49.51 # LightFuzeAndRun: I'd say read the forum thread and the wiki, and then have a look at the existing rockbox code to see what is there 00.50.30 # I think there may be some sort of dissambly tool in the Rockbox source as well (although I may have confused that with something else) 00.50.53 # Then work out what is missing, and start trying to work out how to implement it :) 00.51.10 # So, get to the Cmd step 00.51.16 # and i keep getting this error 00.51.25 # which cmd step for what? 00.51.26 # some way of dual-booting, display and buttons are a good start 00.51.33 # "The system cannot find this path" 00.51.37 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.51.44 # oh here... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22137.0 00.51.47 # What are you trying to do? 00.51.53 # Pilif12p: you need to go the directory where you have mkamsboot 00.51.56 # or set PATH.. 00.51.57 # ok. But could you please tell me what is needed to port rockbox? and by that i mean is it just drivers? 00.52.06 # for example, put all the needed files in this directory 'rbinstall', then CD into that 00.52.07 # *just* :) 00.52.17 # i did 00.52.45 # Oh 00.52.47 # got it 00.52.57 # LightFuzeAndRun: In general www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 00.53.02 # you right click on the folder, and click "Open COmmand Prompt here" 00.53.06 # Although some of that has been done 00.53.28 # Pilif12p: This is pretty basic computer usage, porting rockbox is many many orders of magnitude harder 00.53.48 # Pilif12p: Sorry, I confused you with someone else 00.54.08 # With a completely different nick :) 00.54.11 # I know I lie when I say no knowledge of systems programming 00.54.12 # * AlexP feels silly 00.54.16 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 00.54.22 # I really meant no knowledge of embeded systems 00.54.40 # then replace 'systems programming' in my sentences with 'embedded systems' 00.54.58 # if I used that at all 00.55.11 # I guess I just need to hit the books then :( thanks for your help. 00.55.15 # and mkamsboot.exe fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.bin patched.bin 00.55.26 # What do i do with that? 00.55.28 # I just thought since I have done driver programming I might be of some use. 00.55.32 # LightFuzeAndRun: Don't be discouraged - people are always welcome to pitch in :) 00.55.32 # LightFuzeAndRun: well, what helps is: read the current code, and see if you can understand it :) 00.55.33 # I have a sansa, not a fuze 00.55.51 # that way, you can verify if you grasped the concepts 00.56.04 # Ok thank you for your help 00.56.05 # Pilif12p: Sansa is the brand 00.56.09 # np 00.56.19 # Pilif12p: They make the fuze, the e200, ... 00.56.23 # oh 00.56.36 # i have an e250 00.56.50 # Pilif12p: have you downloaded the correct firmware? 00.56.51 Quit LightFuzeAndRun ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.57.07 # What do you mean? 00.57.21 # nevermind I'm talking on the wrong wavelength 00.57.26 # s/on/in 00.57.43 # Pilif12p: if you read the thread... 00.57.50 # you'd know you need a firmware 00.57.56 # which the mkamsboot utility will patch 00.58.06 # (I know nothing whatsoever about this, i feel stupid) 00.58.18 # you don't have to! 00.58.20 # just read the thread! 00.58.44 # hehe, the problem is, i do tech support for firefox 00.58.49 # thats why i feel stupid 00.59.07 # :P 01.00.46 # what do i sub. the fuzea.bin with? 01.00.48 # Pilif12p: look, I'm even willing to do it for you.. 01.00.58 # oh? 01.01.09 # just boot your player, and look in the menus for the information... 01.01.13 # 1) which firmware do you use? 01.01.31 # i.e. which version 01.02.15 # V03.01.16A 01.02.21 # ty 01.02.33 # European version, with FM radio? 01.02.41 # Nope, american 01.02.43 # k 01.02.52 # just a sec 01.02.55 Join LightFuzeAndRun [0] (n=438d5c42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-lumnmxwtndqwltew) 01.03.00 # Pilif12p: FM radio though? 01.03.00 Quit LightFuzeAndRun (Client Quit) 01.03.05 # Yeah. 01.03.33 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-19-21.unitymediagroup.de) 01.03.57 # the firmware even had a 'A' suffix which hinted at 'American'.. missed that 01.03.57 Join andrewrb [0] (n=chatzill@88-110-97-103.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 01.04.05 # heh 01.04.30 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.04.53 # Pilif12p: ok so, download http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansae200v2.zip 01.05.00 # extract the .rockbox directory in the root directory of your player 01.05.13 # !!! make sure your player is in MSC mode first 01.05.35 # you can enable that in the settings menu 01.05.38 # USB Mode it is called 01.06.01 # alright. 01.06.54 Quit Farthen (Nick collision from services.) 01.06.57 # then download the rockboxed firmware from here: http://77.164.66.126:8080/e200pA.zip 01.07.01 # after that, extract the file e200pA.bin and put it in the root of your player as well, then reboot your player 01.07.08 Join Farthen_ [0] (n=chatzill@e176185242.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.07.12 Nick Farthen_ is now known as Farthen (n=chatzill@e176185242.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.07.26 # is the root directory System 01.07.32 # ? 01.07.39 # root is the first one 01.07.49 # the top level directory 01.07.54 # d:\ or e:\ for example (on Windows) 01.08.03 # Oh 01.08.18 # So just extract it to the player, no subfolders? 01.08.30 # yes 01.08.51 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 01.15.19 Mode "#rockbox -o rasher " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 01.18.34 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.19.55 Join bmendonc [0] (n=401e473f@91.191.140.131) 01.20.18 Quit bmendonc (Client Quit) 01.20.23 Join bmendonc [0] (n=401e473f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cbtwnztcxgpyrhtx) 01.20.35 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 01.21.05 # Does anyone know of an avi codec 01.21.58 # Thanks :( 01.22.01 # er 01.22.04 # If you do, can you append to the avi codec patch in tasklist 01.22.07 # s/ :( / :) 01.22.08 # np :) 01.24.57 # Now, how do i install a theme 01.25.03 # bmendonc: AVI is a container, there aren't codecs for it. If you're looking for AVI support in Rockbox, I suggest doing more research into what it is. 01.26.37 Join Keripo1 [0] (n=Keripo@fba002.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu) 01.27.57 # Pilif12p: basically just unzip it to the root of the player, making sure the unzip utility does not add extra directories 01.28.10 # ok. 01.28.17 # does winexplorer work? 01.28.23 # why wouldn't it? 01.28.31 # assuming you mean the 'Windows Explorer' 01.28.36 # yeah 01.28.41 # OTOH, that thing doesn't always work 01.29.39 Quit parafin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.29.55 # wait... 01.30.10 # it wants to make another .rockbox folder 01.30.18 # just overwrite the files 01.30.27 # it just uses the same file hierarchy 01.30.33 # which means you're doing it the correct way 01.30.41 # oh 01.32.08 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 01.32.12 # Pilif12p: and, does it work? :) 01.33.29 Nick Pilif12p is now known as pilif12p|gone (n=Tanner@173-20-179-8.client.mchsi.com) 01.34.36 # what about DivX avi format 01.34.51 # Llorean 01.34.55 # ??? 01.35.29 # bmendonc: what about it? If you want to know something, a clear question can be very helpful 01.35.33 # bmendonc: AVI is a container. DivX is a proprietary name for a subset for MPEG4 advanced simple profile 01.35.49 # As I said, go do some googling. Research will help you a lot. 01.38.29 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.41.07 # okay so would a mpeg4 codec, if put into the avi filter could read the file after the filter "converted it". 01.41.31 # bmendonc: Seriously, go do some research. Your question doesn't even make any sense. 01.43.31 Nick pilif12p|gone is now known as Tanner|Gone (n=Tanner@173-20-179-8.client.mchsi.com) 01.43.37 Nick Tanner|Gone is now known as pilif12p|gone (n=Tanner@173-20-179-8.client.mchsi.com) 01.45.48 Quit Keripo1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.47.18 Quit bmendonc ("CGI:IRC") 01.47.26 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.47.42 Quit Keripo (Read error: 105 (No buffer space available)) 01.47.54 Nick pilif12p|gone is now known as pilif12p (n=Tanner@173-20-179-8.client.mchsi.com) 01.49.59 Join mt [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/mt) 01.53.37 Quit ender` (" "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of DEC") 02.00.11 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.07.00 Quit mcuelenaere ("Night") 02.08.46 Join moos [0] (i=mostafa@85.171.100.120) 02.17.41 Join chandoo [0] (n=chandoo@ool-4353b978.dyn.optonline.net) 02.23.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.26.47 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 02.28.27 Quit Strife89 ("If you hold a Unix shell to your ear, you can hear the C.") 02.29.43 Join TMan459 [0] (n=475915c5@91.191.140.131) 02.30.55 # Can I ask what is probably an easy question to answer about a certain patch to rockbox? 02.32.11 # I think you should try 02.32.35 # Well I wasn't sure if that was allowed here. Figured I'd ask beforehand. 02.33.43 # It's regarding the anti-aliased fonts patch on the patch tracker. I have no problems applying the patch, but am not very experienced with compiling C (which is what I would assume convttf.c is written in). I was hoping for a point in the right direction to compiling this convttf.c in order to use it to convert my fonts. Any help would be awesome. 02.34.36 # I can also use an old compile of AA fonts from Kugel dating Oct 08, but from reading the log it seems convttf has been improved since then, which is why I'd like to convert my fonts myself. 02.38.13 # Does this even need to be compiled? If not how would I run the damn thing? 02.39.53 # That's more of a general question. How to compile things and how to develop are the subjects of many tutorials on the internet. 02.41.25 # OK yea probably shoulda done some research first :( 02.41.42 # i see a simple "gcc filename.c" should do the trick... dur 02.42.57 Join JoCo [0] (n=JoCo@58.172.252.74) 02.43.01 # Thanks for the help guys! 02.43.05 Quit TMan459 ("CGI:IRC") 02.43.27 # Whats the Last.fm log on it for? 02.43.54 # logging to last.fm? 02.44.18 # You can listen to las.fm on it? 02.44.20 # *last 02.45.19 # pilif12p: if you want to write code and your player has internet access, sure 02.45.31 # uh.... 02.45.32 # oh 02.45.44 # last.fm lets you scrobble tracks you have played 02.45.54 # from other devices such as portable music players 02.46.08 # rockbox writes a list of every track you play to a log file 02.46.17 # you scrobble it to your last.fm play log 02.53.16 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 03.10.05 Quit andrewrb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.10.16 Join andrewrb [0] (n=chatzill@88-110-97-103.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 03.11.31 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 03.11.48 Join andrewrb_ [0] (n=chatzill@88-109-107-121.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 03.12.18 Nick andrewrb_ is now known as andrew92 (n=chatzill@88-109-107-121.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 03.12.30 Nick andrew92 is now known as andrewxyz (n=chatzill@88-109-107-121.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 03.19.53 Quit mt ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.22.33 Join newbie [0] (n=7340a046@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-nfbunsrzbfkyirjy) 03.23.45 # hi i installed rockbox on my ipod video 03.24.15 # and now i started the apple original firmware 03.24.33 # but i am unable to switch off the ipod to start back in rockbox 03.24.41 # can any body help me 03.25.03 # center-and-top-button reboot. 03.25.13 # thanks 03.25.17 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 03.25.58 # its working thanks presence 03.26.07 # i will explore more 03.26.10 # You betcha! :) 03.26.10 # bye 03.26.13 # Enjoy! 03.26.22 Quit newbie (Client Quit) 03.30.47 Join jfc^2 [0] (n=john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 03.33.28 Part andrewxyz 03.33.39 Quit andrewrb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.36.54 Quit niekie ("No Ping reply in 90 seconds.") 03.37.24 Join niekie [0] (i=quasselc@dreamworld.bergnetworks.com) 03.39.47 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 03.40.56 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 03.44.04 Quit Presence (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03.47.13 Quit jfc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.47.21 Quit moos (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03.59.48 Join moos [0] (i=mostafa@rockbox/staff/moos) 04.03.49 Quit Javacat ("lies!") 04.06.24 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.06.41 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-170-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.06.49 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-170-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.09.00 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.09.16 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-170-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.09.24 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-170-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.10.53 Quit chandoo ("Leaving") 04.19.52 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.23.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.31.22 Quit pilif12p (Remote closed the connection) 04.48.56 Join decayedcell_ [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 04.58.53 Quit GeekShadow ("The cake is a lie !") 05.01.20 Quit Beta2K (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.09.13 Join seu_barriga [0] (n=user@c9349534.virtua.com.br) 05.09.22 # hello 05.10.12 # i'm having some trouble with rockbox 05.11.15 # I have some songs that have asian characters on their name, but rockbox doesn't show their correct name and can't play them 05.11.32 # I've searched at google and tried to change the font to unifont, but nohelp 05.11.37 # no help* 05.15.23 # does anyone know what could be wrong? 05.21.30 Quit JoCo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.22.20 Join JoCo [0] (n=JoCo@58.172.252.74) 05.28.40 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.39.44 Quit Zarggg () 05.41.01 Quit KBH (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.41.27 Join Devin_Rich [0] (n=chatzill@72.8.78.91) 05.42.16 Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 05.42.26 # Hi all 05.42.31 # anyone around tonight? 05.43.34 # do you have a question? 05.43.38 # I am trying to hack my orkcbox 05.43.41 # but I think I can't 05.43.47 # trying to disable the radio 05.43.59 # rockbox* 05.44.02 # umm, so 05.44.20 # my question is if anyone knows how to do this or if it just something that was added into the firmware 05.44.37 # and I would have to go to a previous version that doesn't have radio support in the file to remove it 05.45.01 # well, i'm sure you could, but it seems easier to just not use the radio 05.45.10 # yes, I agree 05.45.19 # but I need to have the radio not work 05.45.27 # to meet the requirements for my mp5 player 05.45.30 # mp3* 05.46.16 # why does the radio need to _not_ work...?? 05.46.27 # do you know much about the files in the rockbox folder and what one I would likely want to roll back to remove the radio? 05.46.57 # because I am going where I am allowed to take an mp3 player if I want to 05.47.07 # but I have to be able to prove that it does not receive radio 05.47.16 # or have any games 05.47.17 # etc 05.47.27 # for games I just deleted the games and some of the demo .rocks 05.47.33 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.48.16 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 05.48.25 # you could comment out the config_tuner line in your player config file and recompile it 05.48.35 # ooooh 05.48.37 # awesome! 05.48.45 # ty, time to go google compling rockbox 05.48.47 # haha 05.48.49 # brb 05.49.03 # there are pages on the wiki describing how 05.49.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 05.49.48 # awesome, thanks 05.53.28 # Devin_Rich: what player are you using? 05.53.41 # e200 series 05.53.44 # Sansa 05.53.53 # v1 or v2? 05.53.59 # v1, ofc. 05.54.03 # non rhapsody version 05.55.43 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 05.56.20 # hmm, I'm having trouble finding the source 05.56.26 # which makes me feel dumb, w/e 05.56.36 # I follow the link it just goes to a complied area 05.56.47 # Devin_Rich: /firmware/export/config-e200.h comment out lines 103 &104 05.57.11 # woot, ty 05.57.18 # now... to find that source 05.57.24 # I can't see any .7z zips 05.57.26 # to DL 05.57.49 # use the svn source 05.58.01 # do I need a SVN program? 05.58.12 # you'll need subversion installed, of course 05.58.16 # follow the link krazykit gave you.... 05.58.32 # but if you just follow the directions, it's all explained there 06.00.07 # ya, i went to that link, and it said that I can also get the source from the daily build 06.00.29 # :( 06.00.34 # guess I'll go get subversion 06.03.08 Quit decayedcell_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.07.47 # hello 06.09.10 Quit seu_barriga ("Leaving") 06.16.29 # New commit by 03blue_dude (r22690): Laying the groundwork for future features 06.17.50 # Hi 06.18.23 Quit drakonik ("My landmass erupts with kittens.") 06.23.45 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.23.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.50 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@frustrum.nosebud.de) 06.33.48 Quit kadoban (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.35.00 # FlynDice, krazykit thanks for all your help. I think ima be able to get it here soon. 06.35.35 Quit JoCo ("Leaving") 06.35.48 Quit KBH (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.35.55 Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 06.37.04 Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 06.38.06 Quit kadoban (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.41.42 Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 06.48.17 Quit kadoban (Remote closed the connection) 06.49.23 Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 06.51.06 Quit kadoban (Remote closed the connection) 06.52.12 Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 06.53.48 Quit kadoban (Remote closed the connection) 06.58.18 Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 07.02.53 Part toffe82 07.07.30 Quit kadoban (Remote closed the connection) 07.09.50 # anyone still around? 07.10.26 Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 07.20.46 Quit Devin_Rich ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]") 07.34.01 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.47.06 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.59.43 Quit niekie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.00.12 Join niekie [0] (i=quasselc@dreamworld.bergnetworks.com) 08.00.53 Quit CaptainKwel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.05.32 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.21.22 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 08.23.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.46 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 09.21.39 Quit cg_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.22.30 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 09.22.54 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 09.48.23 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.51.27 # htop 09.51.33 # oops, wrong window 09.55.51 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4C0CE.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.08.46 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host214-146-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.12.34 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 10.13.31 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 10.13.57 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@149.254.200.216) 10.23.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.29.45 # New commit by 03alle (r22691): Another take at quitting with an error message 10.37.59 Join mt [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/mt) 10.41.18 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 10.45.58 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.48.42 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 10.51.11 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 10.51.41 # fml (logs): if I understand correctly it shouldn't be necessary to have the same conditions in the bitmaps' SOURCES, the compiler shouldn't even try to go there if the plugin itself is excluded. It looks like it does and so I *think* something else is wrong... 10.52.37 Join decayedcell_ [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.58.43 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 10.59.12 Quit jfc^2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.59.40 Join jfc^2 [0] (n=john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 11.00.38 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.00.53 Quit ender` (" To get as fewest unhappy people as possible, always bully the same ones.") 11.01.10 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-240.nyc.res.rr.com) 11.05.17 Join GeekShado_ [0] (n=Antoine@77.192.206.190) 11.07.27 # on the c200, there are some keys that are not handled in the settings context, so they fall through in the standard context and then have an undesireable effect 11.07.35 # what the proper way to solve a problem like this? 11.09.45 # the settings context has an action for the none->left transition but not for left->left released transition for example 11.10.59 # so the latter button transition is handled in the default context resulting in an entirely different action 11.13.27 Quit GeekShado_ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.13.30 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.13.46 # if it's just a few, I think adding ACTION_NONE would be ok - or don't link to another context and add the missing ACTION_STD_* to the settings context. Depends on how many of each you'd have to add, I'd say 11.14.27 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 11.14.46 Quit jfc^2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.14.49 # bertrik: can you give an example where I can see the problem? 11.14.59 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 11.15.24 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 11.16.15 Join DarkDefender [0] (n=rob@78-69-30-229-no36.tbcn.telia.com) 11.16.48 # fml: I wonder why the pitch detector bitmaps are compiled so early in the process, all the other plugin bitmaps come way later 11.18.19 # hmm... that's only true when building fails. I really wonder what's up there 11.20.25 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 11.20.54 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 11.23.24 Join at0m [0] (n=at0m@94-225-90-23.access.telenet.be) 11.24.38 # pixelma, if you go to the time date screen and try to do one step to the right (to the next date/time item): instead of just selecting the next item, it also interprets the right button as OK 11.25.12 # a similar problem is in the color adjustment screen 11.25.44 # I do have a fix for this, but I'm not sure it's the right way to fix it 11.26.35 Part at0m ("more has been done with less") 11.29.31 # hmm, I remember having fixed something in those two in the early days of the port :\ 11.31.06 # I have a fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10586 11.31.33 # it simply maps the offending button transition to ACTION_NONE in the settings context 11.36.22 # meh, the almost last minute change for having "long Right" as resume button (my idea was "Vol up" of my patch broke that (and wasn't tested properly then) 11.42.42 # also, the colour choser screen is slightly broken as it only shows the preview rectangle with a small enough font - 9 pixels tall is the biggest and I'm using 10-Nimbus (cabbiev2 even 11-Sazanami). 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Is there any source code available for the V2 yet? I am a willing tester too :) 14.33.36 # no 14.33.56 # Well I will have to make my own then! 14.34.02 # kugel: Is there a known recovery mode? 14.34.10 # I dont think so 14.34.20 # no, no-one that is known 14.34.41 # That is the reason I am hesitant 14.34.53 # I am like 3 levels above noob 14.34.54 # kugel: So of them all (AMS) it is only the e200 vs that can enter recovery by shorting pins? 14.35.03 # s/vs/v2/ 14.35.04 # it seems so, yes 14.35.13 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 14.36.00 # So do you know if all the other hardware is the same (just new SoC)? 14.36.38 # FuzeFaceV2: What is known should be on that wiki page - there are also circuit board scans on there you can check 14.37.01 # it is a bit intriguing that the fuze v2 (and the fuze) do have a marking at certain pins of the flash chip 14.37.35 # bertrik: I tried that shorting on the fuze, but I've not seen markings 14.37.37 # Ok I am sorry I will look it over again. I just don't think they could be too different 14.37.49 # except the ones funman drew on a picture :) 14.38.00 # FuzeFaceV2: Why not? 14.38.07 # IIRC, the e200v2 bridge does something to the flash to trigger the recovery mode 14.38.50 # I don't think there was that much wrong with the v1 hardware. Unless they change all the hardware to mess with Rockbox devs. :) 14.39.08 # It isn't to do with being wrong 14.39.26 # what is it then? 14.39.29 # Things could be replaced with something cheaper, lower energy, .... 14.39.35 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-19-21.unitymediagroup.de) 14.39.38 # yes this is true. 14.39.44 # Things get changed within revisions 14.39.54 # let alone between them 14.40.05 # bertrik: I'm not sure if it's a recovery mode, it seems more like the mode to flash a firmware on the device (i.e. the ROM bootloader doesn't even try to load code), I don't know why this mechanism only works the e200v2 though 14.40.23 # it's all to do with reflected-sounds-of-underground-spirits 14.40.35 # lol 14.41.04 # I think it is a conspiracy 14.41.36 # I think everyone is shady though :) 14.42.31 # gevaerts: re r22680, I think the whole viewports_parse_viewports function should be #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP (as it is in viewport.c) 14.43.13 # kugel: why? As far as I know the Player does have viewports 14.43.28 # not in the wps 14.43.39 # ah, ok 14.43.46 # only internal 14.45.25 # feel free to change it. I think I've just proven that I know little enough about it to not be trusted with it :) 14.50.40 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=bughunte@unaffiliated/bughunter2) 14.50.45 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.05.41 Quit antil33t (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.05.55 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@119.224.12.185) 15.09.25 Quit mt (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.11.11 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-172-245.cust.bredband2.com) 15.15.09 Quit FuzeFaceV2 ("CGI:IRC") 15.21.34 Quit kadoban (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.21.37 Join kadoban_ [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 15.28.57 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.29.07 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ACaen-156-1-86-253.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.33.27 # I get "SD bank -1 error : 0x10" at random (I haven't been able to pinpoint it yet) on the e200v2, any idea on how to reproduce this? 15.35.54 # gevaerts: did you check if build-all.sh still works? 15.36.15 # kugel: uhm, no 15.36.37 # it doesn't work here, but I wasn't sure if my changes caused that 15.39.08 # I could spend some time on this, but I'm not convinced that we still need it 15.41.04 # New commit by 03kugel (r22695): Get rid of some of the code duplication from checkwps, it still duplicates a lot though. 15.47.00 # hrm 15.47.03 # interesting 15.47.19 # I didn't get a new build after the "10 builds left" message 15.47.52 # actually, I didn't get any builds after 3 minutes before the end of the build 15.48.34 # also, my client is totally underrated, leading to only bootloader builds 15.49.12 # * kugel wonders when my average score dropped so dramatically 15.50.38 # there seems to be a bug 15.52.59 # rasher's buildgraphs page shows the weirdness 16.02.14 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 16.13.44 # I took out my client when few more faster clients were added and I still only got the "best fit" whatnot sim which in 9 of 10 cases was done by someone else before mine (it didn't "readjust" so I got more simple builds), just saying 16.16.03 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 16.21.47 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 16.23.45 Join polobricolo_ [0] (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-66-77.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.24.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.24.26 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.28.23 Quit liar (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.29.05 Join teru0 [0] (n=teru@KD059133112132.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 16.30.49 Quit teru0 (Client Quit) 16.34.00 Join DCDemon [0] (n=PSPdemon@c-66-177-37-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 16.45.11 Join chamikal [0] (i=58a21ba2@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhfvgalxzqoltyye) 16.45.20 # Hi 16.47.31 Quit chamikal (Client Quit) 16.48.09 Quit teru (Read error: 105 (No buffer space available)) 16.55.59 Quit Grahack ("Leaving.") 16.56.37 Join IwannaRockbox [0] (n=438d5c42@91.191.140.131) 16.57.51 # So I have a question .... what is it exactly that keeps a person from just writing an operating system for a portable media player? 16.59.01 # IwannaRockbox: lack of documentation on the hardware 16.59.14 Quit PSPdemon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.59.52 # So let me get this straight with out proper documentation they cannot write drivers, etc. 17.00.26 # right 17.00.32 Join LinuxMafia [0] (n=awatt@CPE00222d132940-CM00222d13293c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.00.35 # hi 17.00.48 # i can not remove .rockbox/ 17.01.05 # Read-only file system 17.01.42 # So how would I get started lets say trying to write a hello world type app for a PMP? 17.02.29 # IwannaRockbox: well, if you wanted it to actually be usable, you'd need to figure out how to use the chipset and LCD driver, at a minimum 17.02.43 # and also how to load it 17.03.19 # Ok thank you very much! And by load do you mean like loading a firmware file? 17.04.37 # If no documentation is available, then reverse engineering is needed 17.04.48 # IwannaRockbox: See www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 17.05.24 # LinuxMafia: If you have backups, maybe reformat the player. That may be a file system corruptiion 17.05.24 # LinuxMafia: I suspect you have filesystem errors then - linux will mount ro if it detects errors. Try fsck.vfat 17.05.38 # moos: Surely try to fix it before reformat? 17.05.45 # That seems a bit extreme 17.05.50 # indeed if possible 17.05.53 # ok thanks alot 17.06.02 # Shure looks like I have a lot to learn :) thanks for your help guys. 17.07.27 # ok yeah i make aback up 17.07.59 Quit IwannaRockbox ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.07.59 # just in case you have to reformat; back ups are always good 17.15.36 Quit crashd ("leaving") 17.16.44 Join mjheagle8 [0] (n=mjheagle@nd-129-74-87-123.nat.nd.edu) 17.16.52 # !rules 17.16.55 # after installing rockbox on my ipod, it is recognized by lsusb but is not automounted and does not receive a /dev entry. why does this occur/how do i fix it? 17.17.00 Join crashd [0] (i=foobar@195.62.28.70) 17.17.35 Nick polobricolo_ is now known as polobricolo (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-66-77.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.18.04 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 17.25.05 # New commit by 03kugel (r22696): Repair build-all.sh and clean-all.sh. ... 17.27.40 # strange, I again get no more builds 17.29.29 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-094-220-227-155.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.29.49 # New commit by 03kkurbjun (r22697): Jpeg Viewer: Add support for Vertical Strides 17.30.59 # kugel: I've been thinking a bit more about on the fly rotation. I think it could be done without too much trouble in the main build 17.31.04 # plugins would be an issue 17.31.18 # \0/ :) 17.31.54 # the main build only has two bitmaps that would need to be handled 17.32.13 # if the USB bitmap could be factored into the skin that would make it even easier 17.34.24 # aren't there a few built-in icons? 17.34.35 # what I was thinking is that when you change the orientation the skin could be cleared and then the user would have to load a new one in the proper orientation, that would allow the bitmaps to be reloaded in the proper orientation 17.35.33 # after installing rockbox on my ipod, it is recognized by lsusb but is not automounted and does not receive a /dev entry. why does this occur/how do i fix it? 17.37.23 # there is a default set of icons, but they could be stored twice or there could be a special case to re-orient them - the usb icon could do the same I guess, but I think removing it into the skin would make more sense in the long term and keep it simpler 17.37.59 # plugins could also theoretically be re-oriented at load time, but I'm not sure how that would be implemented 17.42.29 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.46.26 Quit mjheagle8 ("leaving") 17.46.51 Join froggyman [0] (n=chatzill@pool-72-69-75-180.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 17.50.51 Join Sega_Dreamcast [0] (n=PSPdemon@c-66-177-37-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.58.57 Nick Sega_Dreamcast is now known as PSPdemon (n=PSPdemon@c-66-177-37-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 18.05.15 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 18.06.00 Quit DCDemon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.08.17 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 18.14.37 Quit bubsy ("I'll be back somewhere in time") 18.15.42 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 18.24.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.28.36 Part Ubuntuxer 18.36.15 Join DaveDavenport [0] (n=qball@unaffiliated/qball) 18.36.19 # howdy 18.37.13 # I opened up my philips hdd6320... anybody interrested in photo's from the pcb? 18.38.09 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.39.21 # DaveDavenport: Stick them on the wiki 18.41.01 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 18.42.44 # I will see if I can take some pictures tomorrow 18.43.08 # I guess you guys are mostly interrested in the chip numbers 18.43.10 Join beta_ [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 18.43.54 # Indeed. It's my understanding that many of the philips models are similar, so it could be that we already have much of the needed code for the hdd6320 18.43.55 Join pamaury [0] (n=apouly@slsu1-10.ens-lyon.fr) 18.44.14 # beside the touchpad most things worked ok 18.44.19 # touchpad missed some buttons 18.44.35 # my hardisk seems to be unresponsive atm 18.45.00 # Ah, it already (almost) works! Didn't know that 18.45.04 # so I am getting a "please connect player to pc" 18.45.21 # rasher: I even mailed it to the ML, but got a bitch about it not being 100% correctly 18.46.23 # only have s imple canon, but I will take pictures tomorrow 18.46.42 Nick beta_ is now known as Beta2K (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 18.47.00 Part DaveDavenport 19.01.29 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.07.54 Quit Lss () 19.08.35 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 19.15.11 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 19.16.22 Join incognito [0] (n=ae66ce2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-xrxuzozxaygwqsfi) 19.20.43 Quit fyrestorm ("lamers envy me like they envy bill g -- main boot xp, just the way it should be!") 19.21.01 Quit incognito (Client Quit) 19.21.47 Join incognito [0] (n=ae66ce2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-qrfoqgeyyckjixmh) 19.24.11 Quit dfkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.24.21 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.24.39 # Hi, I just downloaded RockBox a few days ago, but I'm confused on how to get my shortcuts into the main menu, if possible. Right now the shortcut file appears in the 'Files' area, and i can see the shortcut.link icon when i plug it into my computer, but where do i move it to get it to show up alongside 'Files', and not inside of it (clearly I am not a programmer but i hope i got the gist across). Any help is a 19.26.56 # incognito: Your message was clipped off after "Any help is a" 19.27.27 # *appreciated* (so not a big loss) 19.34.18 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.40.19 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.40.27 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-86-123.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 19.41.08 # incognito: i don't think it tis possible to add shortcuts to the main menu without modifying the source code. 19.41.54 # darn, i kinda suspected as much. Thanks for the reply though. 19.45.56 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-240.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.46.35 Quit incognito ("CGI:IRC") 19.51.21 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 19.53.50 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 19.55.23 Quit efyx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.57.10 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 19.59.29 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 20.07.11 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 20.11.28 Join DarkDefender [0] (n=rob@78-69-30-229-no36.tbcn.telia.com) 20.24.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.25.21 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.26.48 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.30.35 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3f7c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ubpnycxdvgbotyrv) 20.32.43 # Hello. Could somebody shed some light at the problems with pitch_detector bitmaps compiling? See commit r22691 and today's remarks in IRC at 10:51 (http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20090913#10:51:41) 20.47.59 Join CaptainKwel [0] (n=jason@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 20.52.06 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 20.52.06 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.52.13 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 20.52.29 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.52.32 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.52.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.56.50 Quit liar (Remote closed the connection) 20.59.56 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote closed the connection) 21.00.19 Join profil [0] (n=profil@h106n2fls34o986.telia.com) 21.00.45 # Anybody who knows Soaa? 21.01.50 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 21.06.13 # Soaa? 21.06.33 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.07.45 # AlexP: yes, a rockbox developer on samsung p2 21.08.09 # never heard of him 21.08.22 # And haven't seen him here that I can remember 21.10.26 Join ackers [0] (n=ackers@82-46-108-229.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.10.29 # hi 21.11.04 # ........................ 21.11.10 Quit ackers (Client Quit) 21.12.09 # AlexP: Oh, but I'm sure he has been here, or is there another rockbox channel? 21.12.18 # no, just this one 21.12.28 # Okay.. 21.13.05 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 21.14.55 Part profil 21.16.12 # !seen soaa 21.18.06 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 21.21.10 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.22.00 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 21.25.36 Join chandoo [0] (n=chandoo@ool-4353b978.dyn.optonline.net) 21.25.48 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 21.26.13 Quit togetic (Remote closed the connection) 21.27.58 # fml: I find it a bit sad that you didn't seem to take notice on the typedef thing we objected 21.29.11 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 21.29.30 Quit togetic (Remote closed the connection) 21.30.59 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 21.31.39 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 21.31.42 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.32.57 Join Szeraax [0] (n=chatzill@72.8.78.91) 21.33.55 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@78.251.3.173) 21.33.58 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@85.24.142.237) 21.38.54 Quit freqmod (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.40.40 # so i'm trying to remove some functionality in rockbox 21.41.09 # and commented lines 103 and 104 in the config-e220.h file (usign rockbox source) 21.42.23 # kugel: could you provied a patch? I haven't followed the full discussion. 21.42.57 # Code: //#define CONFIG_TUNER LV24020LP --AND-- //#define HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL but now I get errors about stuff not being defined in functions are such. Anyone know how to remove the FM functionality in rockbox from the source and still be able to build it? I have confirmed that if those lines aren't commented (as they came) then I get a successful build 21.42.58 # I think it's better to have the plugin in SVN, then it's easier to change. And to test. And it works! 21.43.12 # AlexP: I think someone with this nick was around here (might have been a while, and maybe with a slightly different spelling) - and I think he has the same nick in the forums 21.43.58 # Szeraax, I'll have a look at that 21.44.10 # pixelma: yes I grepped it but he had left - there was a "soaa" asking about how to convert a font in 2006, then an "onlysoaa" who was last here in June 21.44.29 # bertrik: what other info would be most helpful so you don't have to waste time? 21.44.36 # It's usually probably not the case that random combinations of features can be enabled or disabled 21.45.06 # you're trying to remove the radio, right? Why do you want that? 21.45.37 # once I commented the #define lines, I was getting my first error in apps/menus/recording_menu.c line 88 21.45.44 # Yes, remove the radio functionality 21.46.10 # because I need to prove that my mp3 player is not capable of receiving radio if I want to take it with me 21.46.29 # rules\regulations... <3 21.46.55 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 21.47.49 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 21.47.59 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 21.50.08 # hmm, just saw the bit about probably not being able to disable features. If you are indeed correct, then crap. 21.50.58 Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@host-091-097-059-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.54.06 # might it work if I changed "#define HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL" to "#define HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL 0" (or False)? 21.54.08 # time to go test 21.54.22 # no, that's not enough 21.56.17 # nope, sure didn't work 21.57.21 # so i might have to go through and remove ALL referencees to the FM\tuner stuff as well as all of the code for that so that it doesn't complain? oi... 22.00.12 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 22.02.26 Quit wincent (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22.04.06 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.14.21 Quit merbanan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.15.00 Quit pamaury ("Parti") 22.15.55 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 22.18.20 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.24.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.33.20 # so here's my question: in other config files, those lines may not exist that enable the radio. Aren't these config files running through the same code? why don't they throw an error? Can I change my config file to use a similar player that doesn't have FM capability? 22.38.00 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.38.29 # oh. Firmware/target/... contains different stuff for different players. shutting up and back to tinkering 22.39.54 # Szeraax: what player is this for? 22.40.08 # e200 22.40.12 # v1, non rhapsody 22.40.15 # Sansa 22.40.23 # trying to nix the FM tuner 22.40.36 # getting compile errors from source 22.43.05 # I think now ima try to leave the config file alone and edit the .c file that initializes the radio or something 22.43.12 # see if that compiles and disables functionality 22.43.42 # Szeraax: I'm not sure if radio can be disabled easily, but you can definitely easily hide the menu item 22.44.03 # oh? that would be AWESOME 22.44.15 # effectively disables the radio for me 22.44.21 # just comment out some stuff in root_menu.c 22.44.33 # (that file is in apps/) 22.44.39 # ya, sadly I haven't played aroudn with source long enough to know the structure for rockbox 22.45.02 # (got Subversion last night per rec from irc to start trying to build w/o radio) 22.45.42 Quit dionoea (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.45.45 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 22.48.34 Quit ys76 ("CU next FrOSCon") 22.49.38 # for what it's worth the tuner related difference in the config files between OndioSP and OndioFM is CONFIG_TUNER, CONFIG_TUNER_XTAL and HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL 22.51.07 # ya, i was comparing about 5 different config files to see if those gave me any clues 22.51.15 # but no, just different erros while compiling :( 22.51.33 # I think kugel hit the nail on the head. This should work awesome. brb, compiling :D 22.52.18 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-191-122.access.telenet.be) 22.52.22 # disabling the features in the config should also work, if not, its a bug :-) 22.52.29 # then its a bug. 22.52.52 # I was getting heinous errors whiile disabling from the config file and compiling 22.53.09 # (compile worked file w/o the commented code) 22.53.18 # (w/o the code commented*) 22.53.59 # as the name says the OndioFM has a radio - the SP doesn't. By the way - if you aren't controlled often, maybe installing an original firmware without radio support (if there is one for the Rhapsody models) and a reverse bootloader that starts the original firmware by default might be a way. Only you would know how to start Rockbox and can even listen to the radio... but that's getting very off-topicy... 22.54.56 # ya, I kinda screwed up my original firmware 22.54.58 # :( 22.55.14 # I heard that the European sansa firmware didn't have the radio option 22.55.20 # (even though it may have the chip) 22.55.33 # so I got the EU .mi4 file and put it in the root 22.56.01 # after it didn't work, I put the original US (same version as my original one) .mi4 into the root 22.56.07 # but now it acts differently than before 22.56.19 # so that's kind of a bummer 22.57.09 # the Rhapsody models have always had Radio support too, and sicne the EU didn't work for me, I'm inclined to make my changes through rockbox and lead them to believe that it is the only firmware on the palyer 22.57.11 # player* 22.59.10 # hm, it gets errors, because the recording_screen depends on fm, and isnt correctly ifdeffed 22.59.49 Quit LinuxMafia (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.00.51 Join LinuxMafia [0] (n=awatt@CPE00222d132940-CM00222d13293c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.00.52 # 2 other questions if anyone cares: 1. Anyone else get a error about file permissions when issuing "make zip" after build for a Dancepuffduo WPS? 2. Anyone know of a way to add entries to the "run this section on boot (the menu where you can say what menu to default to or to resume the last played playlist)" I would love to be able to start a plugin (demo) on boot automatically... 23.02.21 # domonoky: interesting. what if we remove the dependancy from recording_screen and then comment? should work?(i'm prolly wrong) 23.02.23 # Szeraax, i believe the plugin-on-boot is provided by autorock, which should be covered in the manual 23.02.32 # awesome, will check it out 23.02.40 # i'm not sure if that's the exact name, though 23.03.04 # how do you build for a specific wps ? do you want to include the wps in the make zip thing ? 23.03.43 # I don't care about that specific one, no. but it is just in my wps folder that I got from the SVN 23.03.51 # I suppose I could prolly delete it fine... 23.03.59 # Szeraax: yes if we correctly ifdef in recording_menu.c disabling the radio in the config should work 23.04.48 # disabling recording via config is at moment also broken on e200.. 23.04.56 # I am using an e200 23.05.10 # v1, non Rhapsody 23.05.26 # what were you using before when you got the error for your build? 23.06.21 # ah, from recording. This difference could be why I wouldn't see a problem on the Ondios - recording radio is done from the radio screen on those, not via context menu from the recording screen 23.06.30 Join dirtydav [0] (n=puppy@c-24-35-101-80.customer.broadstripe.net) 23.06.44 # hows it going? 23.06.56 # pretty good 23.07.01 # my compile jsut worked :D 23.07.09 # so ima see if my changes actually work or not here soon 23.07.39 # you? 23.08.14 # pixelma: I see. and yes, I don't get controlled often. Basically once or twice 23.08.22 # won't* 23.10.36 # just got a "new" ipod photo and got rockbox on it last night very simple and easy and wanted to say thanks 23.11.34 # coolio, gald to hear you didn't have problems. and I agree. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! to the devs (like Dom I think?) that made such an awesome firmware to save us from the woes of corperations 23.13.01 # OMG 23.13.03 # <3 23.13.12 # yeah, the main feature i like is the extremely customizable EQ a great improvement from the stock preset ones 23.13.23 # <3<3<3 kugel thanks so much! totally worked nice 23.13.49 # now to start tinkering with those other things... 23.15.50 # I had another question also does it madder where i put the songs? on the ipod it names them very funky code names and when i copy paste them on it will it still be able to be read from the stock OS? 23.16.51 # I dont know for sure, but I know each file can contain meta data that provides song name, artist, composer, year, etc 23.16.55 # rockbox will play files from everywhere. the original firmware ofcourse still needs itunes (for ipods) 23.17.09 # assuming that the meta data is present, file name should not matter 23.18.20 # i CAN read them from rockbox :) just wondering if i copy/paste them in linux without itunes will i be able to read them from apples OS 23.18.52 Join Arc [0] (n=arc@pysoy/developer/ArcRiley) 23.19.07 # oh, 23.19.11 # dirtydav: no rockbox doesnt change how the OF works, so it still needs its itunes db and its strange filenames... but who needs the OF ? 23.19.11 # oh 23.19.19 # ^ 23.19.21 # is work being done to add firewire sync and sleep to the rockbox firmware? 23.20.05 # i love it, just a bit annoying to have to keep manually restarting it 23.20.18 # yeah, just a quesion i was wondering... im on linux and i like the copy/paste V.S. sync anyday 23.20.24 # Arc: i dont think anyone is working on that. so feel free to jump in :-) 23.20.38 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@239-126-174-206.static.gci.net) 23.20.50 # i got a long enough todo stack, was just being hopeful that it was being worked on :-) 23.21.09 # also trying to decide to go with a tiny ogg-only player or stick with the ipod 23.21.42 # Szeraax: to autostart a plugin take a look at apps\main.c line 119 :-) 23.22.20 Part Arc 23.22.21 # ya, while I was in that file I saw the autostart section which prompted my old question 23.22.22 # haha 23.24.04 # :-) 23.24.19 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-vqcslcfhhciwczpv) 23.24.35 # domonoky: so is adding the ifdeff to the recording_menu file something that is quick and easy; a standard thing that was jsut an oversight? or something big and scary 23.25.55 # Szeraax: its probably not so big thing, but currently i dont understand the code there so i am not sure what to change to make it work correctly :-) 23.26.47 # coolio 23.27.28 # what OS are you guys running on your computers ? 23.27.43 # im on puppy linux 4.2.1 23.28.15 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.28.26 # * domonoky runs windows and sometimes linux, put we probably have many different os in use here. and please stay on topic ! :-) 23.28.38 # dirtydav, this is an on-topic channel about rockbox. please keep it about rockbox, and if you haven't read the IrcGuidelines, you really should 23.28.58 Quit avacore (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.29.09 # ok, sorry 23.29.44 # JdGordon: you lastly poked at recording_menu.c, maybe you know how to best fix the FM radio config issue ? 23.29.54 # whats the problem? 23.30.23 # if you disable fm recoder in the config-target.h file it breaks (line 88ff ) 23.30.39 # 88ff? 23.30.43 # decimal please :) 23.30.49 # 88 and following 23.31.40 # Found using sansa e200 config file (for me at least) 23.32.06 # there is no LANG_FM_RADIO without radio (line 88) and the check at line 93 also doesnt seem to work correctly.. 23.32.47 # i tihnk thats jhMikeS's work... 23.34.30 Quit DarkDefender (Remote closed the connection) 23.35.39 # is rockbox FAT not case sensitive? 23.36.28 # hmm, I'm not finding much about AUTOROCK... can anyone explain this a lil more or point me to better reading? I enable the "#define AUTOROCK" line in the main.c file and what else? how do I define what rock to start on load? or is that done through the main.c file? would it be easier to jsut add the rock file manually to the autostart list in the settings area for the system? 23.36.49 # it runs autorock.rock in the plugins folder 23.37.37 # and where do I get it? again, very little on google about this 23.37.47 # or is it another always there feature? 23.37.53 # in the .rockbox/rocks/apps folder 23.38.06 # you have to enabe it on your own buil 23.38.07 # d 23.38.16 # autorock.rock is just a renamed plugin 23.38.16 # oooh 23.38.27 # I get it! 23.38.29 Join saratoga_ [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-smucoeoqylockwwt) 23.38.29 # awesome, thanks 23.38.30 Join safetydan [0] (n=deverton@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 23.38.31 # time to go test 23.38.57 Quit bluebroth3r ("leaving") 23.38.59 # Szeraax: just rename any plugin to autostart.rock 23.39.06 # after I enable that line 23.39.08 # got it. 23.39.16 # * domonoky was too late :-) 23.39.35 # anyone looked at the second patch in FS#10605 - Patch for stable playback for clip_v1? 23.40.03 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23.40.13 # 1 other question. When building, how much of the compile process do I need to re do? atm I am going into my build folder, deleting all. running the tools/configure script and then 'make', 'make zip' commands 23.40.26 # can I jsut make the changes I want to to main.c and then make? 23.40.33 # assumign still building for same player 23.40.52 # UGH, i'm sorry bout all my terrible spellings. I hate typing lol. 23.41.28 # the make file will recompile whatever it needs to 23.42.11 # well darn, that's amazing. I'm glad to be able to cut out all the extra fluff from my compiling time 23.43.09 # saratoga_: oh nice.... althugh neither sound like they fix the root cause 23.43.25 # i'm trying to figure out what the second one would even do 23.43.56 # I didn't think overlap could be greater then the size of the object you're moving 23.44.05 # moving codecs around doesn't seem to be the cause 23.44.20 # since you also get it with mp3-only playlists 23.44.42 # IIRC? 23.44.48 # yes 23.45.08 # I wonder if the codec ever gets buffered anyway with such a small buffer anyway 23.45.20 # its a shame theres no easy way to script calls to the buffering system 23.45.29 # this seems like the perfect place to have a test driver 23.45.46 # since doing it through the GUI is rarely reproducable 23.45.47 # but it may have something to do with handles being buffered not completely 23.45.59 # that shouldnt ever be a rpoblem 23.46.11 # i mean.. if it is then it shouldnt be limited to low mem targets 23.46.18 # it will be much more obvious though 23.46.39 # i'm sure its just a stupid check thats missing somewhere on one of these copies 23.48.17 # very possibly 23.48.30 # or an off by one.. or something qually annoying 23.52.50 Quit bmbl ("Bye!")