--- Log for 22.09.109 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.05 Quit GeekShadow (No route to host) 00.00.12 Quit GeekShad__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.00.16 # either make the change now and fix every theme out there.. or leave it 00.00.28 Join Topy44 [0] (i=Topy44@f049045208.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.00.38 # it can actually be automated for the theme site 00.00.41 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@APoitiers-552-1-29-187.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.01.00 Join polobricolo_ [0] (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-34-16.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.01.09 # s/%C/%Cd/ 00.01.20 # I don't think we care about other themes that much 00.02.47 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 00.03.23 # is there a reason rockbox doesn't look for Folder.bmp, according to http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod3g/rockbox-buildap3.html ? 00.03.42 # it looks for everything-else.(jpg, jpeg, bmp) 00.04.28 # n17ikh: because windows doesn't look for folder.bmp 00.04.35 # so there's no point 00.04.44 # n17ikh: the reason is that strcmp() instead of strcasecmp() is used in the code. I.e. it only recognizes folder.*, not Folder.* 00.04.46 # thats a silly reason 00.05.00 # arg, I didn't see the bmp 00.05.05 # kugel: case-sensitiveness aside 00.05.09 # JdGordon|: i assume that's the reason anyway :) 00.05.21 # I didn't know windows was album-art aware 00.05.25 # n17ikh: We support the filenames that we initially used, plus the filenames that other major programs use. 00.05.32 # "folder.bmp" doesn't seem to fall into either of those categories. 00.05.45 # but for the sake of consistency had my bitmap album art covers named the same as my jpeg ones 00.05.54 # n17ikh: explorer, in thumbnail mode, displays folder.jpg in the icon for a folder 00.05.58 # JdGordon|: I brought something similar up (it doesn't read in folder.jpeg). they seemed to be keen on the tiny savings in the searching loop 00.06.12 # I see. I thought it was just something someone had made up and it had caught on 00.06.37 # the way it should work is read albumartsearch.txt so the user can choose how they want it 00.06.38 # no. it's not just for album art, so it's not called something more music-y 00.06.52 # so, really, I should rename all my album art "cover.jpg"/"cover.bmp" 00.07.23 # and if that file doesnt exist then just folder.jpg and cover.bmp 00.07.38 # infact screw cover.bmp 00.08.01 # only reason I have bmp album art covers is because they're GIF or PNG 00.08.36 # n17ikh: for the purposes of rockbox you might as well compress them to jpeg, no? 00.08.39 Quit petur ("Zzzzzzz") 00.08.40 # kugel: ok, you are right that %C and %Cd shuold be seperate... but this really isnt the time to do that change... do it when we support more than one aa image, because then it will very likely need to be broken again anyway 00.08.44 # s'not like it's displaying them very big :) 00.09.08 # well... it irritates me to lossily compress something that's already lossy 00.09.18 # I guess it doesn't matter so much for PNGs 00.09.42 # and, really, it doesn't matter at all for rockbox, but it's ostensibly more about portability 00.09.52 # add pn support to the core.. or as aa codec :) 00.10.23 # gif isn't lossy (except inasmuch as you need to reduce to 256 colours) 00.10.24 # n17ikh: png is uncompressed 00.10.24 # that would be cool actually... swapable image codecs (using the audio codec buffer), they would just need to be damn fast so the audio doesnt underrun 00.10.31 # kugel: Are you sure it's case-sensitive, anyway? All my album covers are Folder.jpg 00.10.44 # FAT is not case sensitive 00.11.06 # but it keeps the case intact 00.11.15 # kugel: except when it doesn't ;) 00.11.27 # huh? 00.11.32 # the rules for LFN creation on windows are baroque 00.11.45 # some names that fit in 8.3 *don't* get a long filename created and thus lose their case 00.11.59 # and it varies between windows versions as a bonus 00.12.12 # see "case" parameter of vfat fs on linux :) 00.12.45 # Baroqueness is how MS got their patents 00.13.02 # so, it still may happen that strcmp'ing folder.jpg doesn't match a file created as Folder.jpg 00.13.08 # we had this reported before 00.13.36 # it would be all uppercase on disk if it had n lfn 00.13.50 # lowercase chars are not allowed in actual FAT dir entries 00.14.59 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.15.30 # so it seems like a bad idea to use strcmp instead of strcasecmp, to me 00.15.55 # kugel: not sure how *our* FAT code handles it tho 00.16.28 # kugel: in which universe is png uncompressed? 00.16.33 # alright, I really should look into the code before claiming stuff. there's no strcmp :) 00.16.52 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.16.52 # rasher: I mean it's lossless. slightly messed up the term 00.17.01 # ah 00.17.16 # Torne: who you calling FAT?! 00.17.44 # heh 00.17.44 # that was answering to "well... it irritates me to lossily compress something that's already lossy" which isn't true for png 00.20.49 Join TopyMobile_ [0] (n=topy@f049045208.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.21.46 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.22.39 # JdGordon|: I actually plan to add more AAs somewhere around statusbar patch (I didn't plan multiple AAs per skin though) 00.23.03 # so do the change then 00.23.23 Quit Lynx_ (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.") 00.23.31 Quit lennyk () 00.23.49 # multi-AA per skin would be sweet... front/back/front-smaller 00.23.53 # etc 00.24.02 # have 15MB of images in the buffer... 00.25.59 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.27.00 # JdGordon: how about animated AA, with many pics :-) 00.27.22 # that too 00.27.27 # totally doable! 00.28.51 # * domonoky wants animated AA in the statusbar... on a archos player :-) 00.29.19 Part Bob_C 00.30.26 # more serious: wps plugins, ie visualisations drawing into a wps viewport would be uber-cool .. 00.31.43 # I did some work on that probably 2 years ago.... had a plugin overriding the displayers (I tinhk before the tokeniser changes) 00.31.50 # * kugel fails to see the point of (animated) visualisation 00.32.47 # it should be doable with background plugins actually 00.32.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.33.09 Join akur1 [0] (n=akur@bl6-152-47.dsl.telepac.pt) 00.33.21 Part akur1 00.33.28 # the main problem is that drawing must only happen in the main thread, which kills background drawing 00.33.52 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.33.59 # not nessecarily... 00.34.28 # a tsr plugin with a darwing callback registered somehow could work. 00.34.30 # the way to go is probably to add the update functions to the plugin api somehow, and let the plugin do the wps updates 00.34.54 # which could be launched through the wps context menu 00.38.08 Part domonoky 00.42.37 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]") 00.43.12 Quit efyx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.46.09 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.50.40 Part safetydan ("Leaving.") 00.51.15 Quit ender` (" If I had only finished this sentence,") 00.51.57 Quit Zagor ("Clint excited") 00.52.39 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.54.56 # Torne: The rockbox fat driver simply *always* creates lfn entries when creating a dir entry 00.55.26 # And for reading, it knows about the undocumented NT case bits for base name and extension 00.57.00 # right 00.57.36 Join Stephen_ [0] (n=S@86.45.127.213) 01.00.46 # I sometimes get faint audio glitches when playing Bubbles .. not sure what the cause might be, but seems to happen when I press a button => something odd in the button driver or cpu boost ? I first noticed it when testing out the 0ws boost patch, but I recently noticed same on unpatched build too. Very faint glitch (sounds like a handful of samples dropped) 01.00.52 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-220-123-230.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.01.09 # Will see if it's there on latest current build too 01.03.30 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 01.05.59 Quit froggyman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.12.36 Quit liar|netbook (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.16.15 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 01.25.17 Quit Stephen_ ("Leaving") 01.58.26 Quit n17ikh () 01.58.51 Join safetydan [0] (n=deverton@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 01.58.54 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 02.00.31 Join CaptainKwel [0] (n=jason@207.237.172.77) 02.02.49 Nick The3_14ed|r is now known as Dhraakellian (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 02.04.43 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 02.05.23 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 02.13.13 # * Strife89 would like the juicy details on the issues with iPods charging. 02.13.16 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 02.13.16 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.13.35 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.13.36 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.13.40 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.13.46 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.16.52 # Most notably with the Photo, which is the model I own. 02.18.18 Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 02.23.10 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 02.28.56 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.32.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.34.37 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.10 Join brn2dth [0] (n=chatzill@63.245.17.11) 02.36.17 Quit brn2dth (Client Quit) 02.37.16 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 02.47.25 Join foolsh [0] (n=benjamin@c-98-212-233-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.47.33 Join sbhsu_ [0] (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 02.47.42 # Has there been any decision on FS#10362 ? 02.48.06 Quit FOAD (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.48.06 Quit Sajber^ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 Quit J-23 (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 Quit tarbo (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 Quit sbhsu (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 Quit meermanr (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 Quit dionoea (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.06 Quit rwong (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.48.48 Join JdGordon|_ [0] (n=Miranda@70.7.250.70) 02.49.20 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.49.20 NJoin tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 02.50.43 # And FS#4831 too ? (too many too-old still-open bugs !) 02.54.32 # apparently not :) 02.58.35 NJoin FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.58.35 NJoin Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-237.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 02.58.35 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 02.58.35 NJoin sbhsu [0] (n=a6530466@192.192.120.197) 02.58.35 NJoin meermanr [0] (n=meermanr@robmeerman.co.uk) 02.58.35 NJoin dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 02.58.35 NJoin rwong [0] (n=ricky@www.roflwaffle.com) 03.01.42 Quit sbhsu (Connection timed out) 03.07.19 Quit tmzt (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.07.30 Join tmzt [0] (n=tmzt@adsl-99-52-65-233.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) 03.10.18 Join dd09 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 03.10.34 # Hey all. 03.14.46 Quit dd09 (Client Quit) 03.17.05 Quit JdGordon|_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.20.18 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 03.27.06 Join yZor [0] (n=freenode@the-playboys.org) 03.36.30 Quit KBH () 03.37.58 Quit MG_Man (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.38.47 Join TorneWuff [0] (i=torne@lowell.wolfpuppy.org.uk) 03.40.25 Quit Torne (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 03.45.32 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.45.35 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 03.45.35 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.45.36 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.45.45 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.45.57 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.50.01 Join j8048188 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 03.50.15 Join Torne [0] (i=torne@lowell.wolfpuppy.org.uk) 03.51.06 Join DaCapn [0] (i=dacapn@using.your.wireless-inter.net) 03.52.06 Join Jared [0] (n=47254756@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-wzmuoejlpzmywpnq) 03.52.19 # Hello all, 03.52.35 Nick Jared is now known as Guest99956 (n=47254756@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-wzmuoejlpzmywpnq) 03.52.38 # I go to the daily builds page to download the voice files, but I can't find them there. 03.52.48 # where are they? 03.55.02 Quit j8048188 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.55.33 Nick Guest99956 is now known as j8048188 (n=47254756@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-wzmuoejlpzmywpnq) 03.55.57 # does anyone know where to get the voice files? 04.02.26 Quit TorneWuff (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 04.05.56 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.06.11 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-161-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.06.23 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-161-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.07.16 # TheSeven, do you know where to download the voice files? 04.11.53 # from the voice link on the download page 04.12.21 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCA6F.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.13.30 # ok, thanks. found it. The links on the extras page should be fixed to show this. It is not listed on the daily builds page as stated in the wiki. 04.15.40 # Can someone give me write access on the wiki? 04.18.12 Join Mataamad [0] (i=nospam@111.69.241.30) 04.23.14 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-235-222-153.mco.bellsouth.net) 04.29.58 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.32.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.40.06 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.46.25 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 04.46.36 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-187-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.48.21 Join dys` [0] (n=andreas@krlh-5f72ca7a.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.57.31 Quit j8048188 ("CGI:IRC") 05.01.09 Quit dys (Connection timed out) 05.05.46 Quit bubsy ("I'll be back somewhere in time") 05.15.39 Join moos [0] (i=mostafa@rockbox/staff/moos) 05.23.32 Join R31D [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 05.23.44 Quit R31D (Client Quit) 05.24.06 Join R31D [0] (n=email@142.177.229.236) 05.24.50 # anyone here know internally about the ipod classic ? 05.26.27 Quit Blue_Dude ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 05.27.44 Join bubsy [0] (n=bubsy@94.139.72.137) 05.32.37 # its got a pcb or two... a battery... some chips 05.32.54 # maybe a couple dozen resistors and capacitors 05.33.03 # im having trouble tring to figure out what is wrong with mine 05.33.11 # i got a new hdd for it 05.33.28 # well.. you;re in the wrong place 05.33.41 # i hear the hdd working but when i go to the diagnostic test for it dont show up 05.33.56 # might be the ribbon to the hdd im htinking 05.34.30 # hrmm i was told to come here 05.43.02 # rasher: can you please update your "Languages status" page when you can, it seems out of date 05.43.40 # Thanks in advance 05.51.37 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 06.05.48 Quit panni__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.11.51 Quit Trista666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.13.56 Join _Tristan [0] (n=Tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 06.20.58 Quit _Tristan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.21.42 Join _Tristan [0] (n=Tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 06.25.19 Join KylePolansky [0] (n=KylePola@unaffiliated/kylepolansky) 06.29.27 Join chicagonpg [0] (n=chicagon@pool-71-114-212-189.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.33.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.39.35 # I downloaded the trunk from the svn, and tried to compile for nano2g, but it error's when linking, is it not possible to even compile it? 06.41.30 # woot i got my 4th gen into disc mode finally 06.41.34 Quit chicagonpg ("leaving") 06.41.54 # x my fingers for a restore 06.42.12 # damn need to download itunes 06.46.54 Quit moos (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 07.05.13 Join bluefoxx_ [0] (i=1855fd37@gateway/web/freenode/x-hezquwfedcrzcvik) 07.05.55 # Does anybody know if the sansa E200 series SD slot supports SDIO? 07.06.37 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp126.contactor.se) 07.06.42 # for what? 07.06.57 # In general 07.07.16 # If I wanted to try and hack a SDIO camera or wifi card into it 07.08.50 # well... its all open source so assuming there is no hardware changes needed you should be able to do it 07.09.16 # So the SD controller supports it than? 07.10.22 # * JdGordon doesnt kno 07.10.24 # w 07.10.48 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 07.12.14 # As far as I know, the microSD slot on the e200 series is just a reader tacked onto the portalplayer's USB bus 07.12.26 # Or something like that. 07.13.08 # I'm hoping its advanced enough that I could adapt something like a SDIO wireless card or SDIO bluetooth chip onto it and do some crazy stuff with that... 07.22.04 Quit bluefoxx_ ("blargh") 07.28.50 Part Mataamad 07.29.04 Join Mataamad [0] (i=nospam@111.69.241.30) 07.29.21 Part Mataamad 07.29.34 Join moos [0] (i=mostafa@rockbox/staff/moos) 07.31.30 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r22780): add the %St setting to the debug output for checkwps/parser.... needs mroe work to make it more useful 07.39.12 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@97.77.51.170) 07.45.45 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/lang/english.lang?r1=21437&r2=21464 - can someone explain to me why "Browse Themes" was changed to "Browse Theme Files", rasher? 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I want to update my rockbox version to (hopefully) erase some bugs. How do I do that, without deleting all my database, eqs, settings, wps, fonts etc.? Can I use the RockBox Utility? 09.06.57 Join kyle6513 [0] (n=kyle6513@58.174.128.189) 09.07.06 # or just manually copy some files? wich are the important ones? "rockbox.ipod" and the "codepages" folder, is that already everything? I didn't find anything else that looks important... 09.07.51 Part kyle6513 ("Leaving") 09.08.13 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 09.13.09 # seems to work fine 09.16.08 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 09.19.36 # except that I still don't get the bookmarks to work, the "recent bookmarks" item in the main menu always says "bookmarks empty" :-S 09.20.41 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.27.16 # RalpH_himself: That is not enough. It's pure luck that it works. You'll need at least the codecs as well, and depending on whether you use them the plugins as well 09.28.03 # Either use rbutil, or just unzip the build on top of your installation. It won't overwrite any files you created 09.28.06 # so the plugins and the codecs are also rebuilt every day? 09.28.37 # Regarding this as well as the bookmark functionality, it's all described in our fine manual 09.29.04 # question: does bookmarking only work when playing tracks from the filebrowser? 09.29.29 # amiconn: I still couldn't figure out the bookmark functionallity... 09.29.37 # Yes they are. As long as there is no api change, older plugins and codecs will work, but then you'll miss bugfixes in them 09.30.05 # Dhraakellian: yes 09.30.33 # amiconn: ok then i figured it out, i always use the database :-S 09.31.08 # daaang 09.31.25 # I walked in here to ask a question, not knowing that bookmarks were already being discussed 09.35.43 # omg, I just connected my ipod to my mac, it's stuck in the rockbox usb mode, i just turned round the wheel and suddenly the music on the mac became quieter... 09.36.28 # hmm... does that work with the e200(v1)? 09.36.50 # i guess that's apple-specific 09.37.23 # I sadly no longer have my e200, since it was handed down to my brother when I got my fuze rockboxed. 09.37.28 # and I can't do anything else with my rockpod right now, its not operational no more, but not yet mounted as a new volume 09.37.53 # and I need to stop talking in here before my tiredness makes me veer offtopic 09.37.57 # No it's not. Recent rockbox works like a mini multimedia keyboard on targets with software usb 09.37.58 # good night/morning 09.38.31 # I see there's still a lot to learn for me... 09.38.49 # and it wouldn't work with the Fuze due to lack of USB support at all in the AMS Sansa ports 09.39.18 # (in parallel to mass storage mode) 09.41.02 # RalpH_himself: which MacOS version are you running exactly? 09.41.10 # 10.6.0 09.41.21 # *10.6.1 09.41.38 # these updates come earlier with every new major release... 09.43.31 # huh, I had trouble with 10.4 and had to either boor into the original firmware or run a custom version without the USB HID functionality (which gives you the multimedia buttons). I thought everything was working with newer MacOS 09.43.40 # s/boor/boot 09.46.25 # I never used the HID function, so I can't tell if it worked earlier, but I always had to reboot into the original bootloader (which is enough for usb mass storage), otherwise I never got the iPod to mount as an external drive. And see now, it works the first time ever: Usb hid from the rockbox usb-mode, and its mounted ^^ 09.46.51 # I though had to reboot while connected to USB, it didn't work out from the beginning 09.47.14 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.47.19 Join DaCapn [0] (i=dacapn@using.your.wireless-inter.net) 09.52.44 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 09.53.50 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.00.39 Join Guest23293 [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 10.07.14 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.10.21 Nick Guest23293 is now known as n17ikh (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 10.21.35 # right, it finally works. obviously not with the database :( 10.33.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.35.22 # Bagder: I don't seem to be able to send a mail to the dev list: http://pastebin.com/mfef7aa8 My fault? 10.37.25 Join kyle6513 [0] (n=kyle6513@58.174.128.189) 10.46.20 Join cool_walking_ [0] (i=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/freenode/x-npidgqwqwvjjfdxg) 10.48.27 Quit Llorean (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.49.16 Quit RalpH_himself ("cya") 10.51.28 Join neoarch| [0] (n=neoarch@rrcs-97-77-48-15.sw.biz.rr.com) 10.52.11 Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 10.56.33 # AlexP: isn't this the right domain name (thought it was something at haxx, not sure whether things changed there too) 10.56.38 Quit bubsy ("I'll be back somewhere in time") 10.57.01 Join bubsy [0] (n=bubsy@94.139.72.137) 10.57.06 # s/right/wrong 10.59.32 Quit cool_walking_ ("Page closed") 11.00.18 Quit HBK (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.02.56 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 11.04.07 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.04.41 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.07.09 # @cool.haxx.se ? 11.08.49 Quit neoarch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.10.59 # Oh weird, I could've sworn you could use @rockbox.org, but it seems that's not the case (or at least no one does) 11.11.31 # Anyway, something needs to be fixed - all the subscribe/unsubscribe pages are gone (http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox) 11.11.58 # @rockbox.org used to work. If it doesn't work now, that's a config bug 11.19.01 # Paging Zagor to the front desk 11.24.54 # rasher: hi, re the "language status page", I saw that the page should be updated, but take exemple of polish translation updated in r22654 and don't appearing? Is there a bug somewhere? Is it the case just for polish. Just a minor thing, but we miised the translation call mail thi time... 11.26.33 Nick dys` is now known as dys (n=andreas@krlh-5f72ca7a.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.27.24 # we made the mistake to count only on it and you was surely busy. I confess that I take the habbit to see the mail from you. Mistake from us, anyone else take the initiative. 11.27.53 Quit kyle6513 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11.29.24 # moos: I'll look into it 11.30.07 # rasher: Thanks 11.34.57 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.38.49 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=Lynx@xdsl-78-34-251-40.netcologne.de) 11.40.03 Join DarkDefender [0] (n=rob@78-69-30-229-no36.tbcn.telia.com) 11.40.25 # moos: fixed (svn checkout had been locked) 11.41.57 Join HBK- [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 11.42.24 # rasher: ah, ok 11.44.43 # New commit by 03alle (r22781): Show the name of the setting in the WPS debug output 11.48.35 # rasher: did you see my question from this morning? 11.49.37 # pixelma: yeah, there was discussion here.. hang on 11.52.36 # pixelma: hm, doesn't seem to have been much. 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Hangover from moving them? 19.25.49 # er, *messages :) 19.26.10 # yes, but the list should work... other lists are working at list 19.26.21 # the plan is to fix the web ui for them tonight 19.26.43 # rasher: that makes a bit more sense now (the language change, sorry for late reply) but I wouldn't have guessed :\ 19.26.53 # Bagder: is it @cool.haxx.se or @rockbox.org? 19.27.03 # the first 19.27.21 # I'll try again - I tried last night but it may have been during the move 19.27.33 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.27.35 Quit hd (Connection reset by peer) 19.27.40 # ah yes, it was completely down for about two hours 19.27.55 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 19.28.58 # OK, sent - we'll see :) 19.29.15 Quit liar (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.29.24 # There we go :) 19.29.40 # yeps, I noticed the new server passes through the mails faster 19.29.47 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=bughunte@unaffiliated/bughunter2) 19.30.58 Join DirtySkeMe [0] (n=Adium@nor75-19-82-244-50-203.fbx.proxad.net) 19.32.53 Quit DirtySkeMe (Remote closed the connection) 19.32.59 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.33.51 # Bagder: @rockbox.org used to work before the move... I've been using that for years 19.34.44 # it still does afaik, but that's more of a coincidence than anything else 19.35.42 # amiconn: don't do that. that is not the right address. 19.38.13 # Uh? I always thought this has been the primary address since we got the domain, and @cool.haxx.se is kept for compatibility and because it reflects the actual host 19.39.00 # why would it be? that's not mentioned anywhere 19.39.21 # amiconn: you are the only one using it... 19.39.46 # I can imagine a subdomain within rockbox.org for lists, to make it more explicit 19.40.09 # lists.rockbox.org would make sense. but when we move we move completely. 19.40.09 # Hmm, weird 19.40.10 # I mean, like list.rockbox.org or so 19.41.01 Join DirtySkeMe [0] (n=Adium@nor75-19-82-244-50-203.fbx.proxad.net) 19.45.27 Join Lear_ [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.48.11 # AlexP, your proposal regarding the CREDITS file gets my vote too 19.49.00 # * evilnick agrees with bertrik (and by extension AlexP) 19.49.33 # righto :) 19.53.55 Join jpt9 [0] (n=jpt9@129.161.35.137) 19.53.57 # Hey. 19.54.05 # Just noticed the Sansa Clip builds... 19.54.25 # I'm annoyed.... now I have to get a Clip :-) 19.54.25 # (Just kidding... great to see more platforms supported.) 19.59.00 # New commit by 03learman (r22784): Update Swedish translation. 20.00.43 # * pixelma still needs an idea for a nice and short translation of "Skin RAM usage" since that is in the info screen, to German 20.01.51 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.03.10 # pixelma: Did anyone answer rasher's question from earlier about why that says "Skin", and everything else says "Theme" ? 20.03.46 # * Lear_ just used the Swedish word for "Theme", and nothing else. 20.03.48 # haven't seen an answer 20.03.52 # It should just say theme IMO 20.04.01 Quit DirtySkeMe (Remote closed the connection) 20.04.32 # * linuxstb thinks so too, unless anyone can come up with a good argument 20.04.36 # New commit by 03learman (r22785): Update Swedish translation. 20.04.43 # I'll probably do that too (as "skin" doesn't have a better translation IMO when used in this sense) 20.05.43 # /me thought tha was just WPS RAM usage? 20.06.36 # I guess it's meant to do more later on (and/or is e.g. font buffer already included) 20.07.47 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-52-105.unitymediagroup.de) 20.08.02 # ok, didn't know that that was planed to make it sum total of all those theme related buffers 20.08.32 # * moos have to change it this way for french translation then 20.08.53 # what does the "limit" in the time stretch screen limit? 20.09.38 # moos: that's just what I think, don't know for sure 20.09.51 Join DirtySkeMe [0] (n=Adium@nor75-19-82-244-50-203.fbx.proxad.net) 20.10.04 # pixelma: we have to confirm with JdGordon or kugel 20.10.58 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.11.03 Quit merbanan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.11.21 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 20.11.22 # AlexP: like I already stated yesterday, +1 here about the credit thing 20.11.57 # moos: Cool - I basically posted just in case there was a good reason for it that I couldn't think of 20.12.06 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 20.12.17 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-088-064-127-008.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.12.38 # AlexP: but I guess that we still keep a manual credit file anyway, right? 20.12.49 # moos: I don't see why 20.13.03 # moos: I plan to get rid of it (that was the point of the mail) :) 20.13.50 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-172-245.cust.bredband2.com) 20.14.20 # ok here too, just that rasher ponted a valid point yesterday, if we want to change the license of the manual in the futur for exemple... 20.14.41 Part jpt9 ("Leaving") 20.15.19 # But we don't know who really wrote anything a 20.15.26 # er, bad delete 20.15.51 # What I meant is that there is always the commits - and plenty of people that have done stuff are not in the manual credits file 20.16.38 # yeah sure that svn history will be still there 20.18.35 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.18.43 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 20.18.54 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-197-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.19.02 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 20.19.07 # moos: skin or theme makes no difference really 20.19.58 # JdGordon: Is there a reason it says skin and not theme there (like everywhere else) ? 20.20.05 Quit evilnick ("Page closed") 20.20.17 # it does for consistency 20.20.19 # JdGordon: ok thanks for info. In my mind WPS was part of theme, and "skin" was a reword of our WPS 20.20.24 # JdGordon: Don't they mean different things? i.e. a theme consists of a number of skins, a font (hopefully fonts in the future), icons, colour choices, etc etc? 20.20.39 # pixelma: eh? (or did I miss sarcasm) 20.21.02 # linuxstb: well yes, but in the context of ram usage either would work 20.21.06 # AlexP: that was at JdGordon 20.21.15 # ah right 20.21.26 # moos' question was also if it was only counting WPS RAM usage or more than that 20.21.29 # JdGordon: So is that setting a setting for skins, or a setting for themes? 20.21.44 # its not a setting at all yet 20.21.46 # s/setting/info/ 20.23.46 # right now that info is *just* for the wps which is the only skin being used right now in a theme 20.24.48 # Not the rwps? 20.24.56 # that also 20.24.58 # ok, then like pixelma said. In a soon future this RAM use thing will count all theme things 20.25.03 # ? 20.25.13 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 20.25.24 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-088-064-119-057.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.25.37 # it will count all skin usages, but I dont tihnk users care about the difference 20.25.59 # outside of the code the word skin isnt used anywhere 20.26.17 # yeah we was thinking translations here 20.26.17 # I guess I'm arguing for it to be changed... what does it display now? 20.26.17 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-235-222-153.mco.bellsouth.net) 20.27.14 # JdGordon: You committed it in the first place ;) It says "Skin RAM usage"... 20.27.27 # you introduced that skin word, then don't count on us to tell you ;) 20.27.33 # hehe, too slow :) 20.27.46 # 1) I'm sick, 2) yeah, but I wouldnt trust anything I commit... 20.27.51 # :) 20.27.57 # haha :D 20.28.06 # * linuxstb reverts all JdGordon's commits... 20.28.09 # So, someone change it to Theme RAM usage :) 20.28.12 # but yeah, thinking about it thme would make more sense than skin 20.28.19 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 20.28.32 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@98.26.65.13) 20.28.39 # yes, with that typo ;P 20.28.53 # linuxstb: that would put us back into the stone age though.... back to #ifdef hell button handling, boring settings... :p 20.28.58 # AlexP: Not yet! 20.29.13 # JdGordon: Perfect ;) 20.29.18 # No lang changes until after the release, please 20.29.55 # It complicates things :\ 20.30.05 # rasher: I thought to change this RAM usage item for french, a one line change 20.30.51 # moos: change it in the translation only then - that'll be fine 20.30.52 # even if it is "Theme RAM Usage" it's hard to translate into German without writing stories (no difference here between skin and theme) 20.30.55 # I should say 20.31.00 # that would be a bit odd... one french line in the base tranaltion! 20.31.02 # No english.lang changes until after the release 20.31.35 # pixelma: Theme size maybe? (although somewhat inaccurate, it might be good enough) 20.31.39 # pixelma: would buffer work better than RAM? 20.31.44 # For the translation, that is 20.32.41 # pixelma: "buffer" ? 20.32.43 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 20.32.54 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-193-189.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.32.59 # that gives some inspiration, thanks. Still no "click" though 20.33.13 # that's a theme buffer sort of 20.33.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.33.50 # * moos understand the feeling (about the wrinting stories :) 20.34.54 # just leave it english 20.36.56 # nah 20.38.41 # I still have a few hours for thinking about it ;) 20.39.50 # rasher: Yeah that what I will do. I will not touch english.lang if that's what you are afraid of 20.39.54 # Hey, could some of you fine folks look over FS#10612? 20.40.04 # pixelma: good luck ;) 20.40.13 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 20.40.24 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-088-064-113-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.40.57 # I guess I go with translating "buffer" 20.41.59 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.42.00 # pixelma: that what I did in french 20.43.55 Join fml [0] (i=www-data@83.168.254.42) 20.44.15 # JdGordon: hey! Have you seen this question? http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20090922#12:26:10 20.44.51 # To see what I mean, try to use the %St tag with a dummy setting name 20.44.57 Quit moos ("time to go, see you later") 20.47.43 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 20.47.51 Quit fml (Client Quit) 20.47.54 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-088-064-118-215.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.50.46 # fml: bah, no I hadnt 20.51.42 Part Blue_Dude 20.54.47 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.57.03 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 20.58.15 Quit amiconn (Remote closed the connection) 20.58.15 Quit pixelma (Remote closed the connection) 20.59.49 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@c-24-22-210-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 20.59.49 Join pixelma [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.59.49 Join amiconn [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.01.32 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 21.04.25 # bertrik: do you have / plan to get a Clipv2/Clip+/Fuzev2 ? 21.05.05 # JdGordon|: had you looked at a recovery mode for Clip+ similar to e200v2 ? 21.05.30 # there is two solder joints which I tried connecting without much luck 21.05.47 # what about disabling the NAND at boot ? 21.05.53 # Blue_Dude: re FS#10612 on H140 - MP3 81.15% realtime, Vorbis 66.4% realtime 21.06.06 # how? 21.06.10 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-235-222-153.mco.bellsouth.net) 21.06.18 # Blue_Dude: Ah, didn't notice you had left 21.06.24 # Blue_Dude: re FS#10612 on H140 - MP3 81.15% realtime, Vorbis 66.4% realtime 21.06.39 # Yep. That's about right... 21.06.42 Join sacarasc [0] (i=sacarasc@xmms2/bitch/sacarasc) 21.06.48 # JdGordon|: you have to connect 2 pins of the NAND, I'm looking for a picture 21.06.56 # all the pins descriptions are given in the ONFI standard 21.08.46 # Blue_Dude: For reference, MP3 with it off is 442.73% realtime :) 21.08.59 # http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/files/48_pin_tsop_110.jpg 21.09.52 # hum it's not consistent with what I see in ONFI 2.0 21.10.06 # What's it like with DSP speed test with compression off? 21.10.50 # JdGordon|: with the mark on the top left corner, try connecting pins 18 & 19, with the top left pin being number 1, and bottom left pin being number 24 21.11.07 # eek! how?! 21.11.17 # pin 19 is WP# (NOT write protect) and pin 18 is CLK or WE# (NOT write enable) 21.11.22 # screwdriver 21.11.28 # or knife, anything metallic 21.11.48 # I had found the info on s1mp3 website, let me find it again 21.11.55 # how long do the need to be connected? 21.11.58 # Blue_Dude: With DSP off MP3 is 464.21%, with DSP but no compressor 442.73%, with compressor 81.15% 21.12.03 # just the time for the clip to boot 21.12.15 # wow. 21.12.15 # (DSP for me is replaygain/treble/bass - no equaliser etc) 21.12.16 # what should happen? connect to usb? 21.12.30 # http://www.s1mp3.org/en/docs_deadrec.php#short 21.12.40 # Time to optimize I guess. :) 21.12.42 # they use other pins but with the same effect (I had tested both on clipv1) 21.12.48 # Blue_Dude: So it seems :) 21.13.01 # JdGordon|: yes : put it off, connect the pins, plug to usb, wait 5 secodns and release pins 21.13.11 Part sacarasc ("Leaving") 21.13.25 Join BdN3504 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 21.13.46 # I'll need anaother pair of hands for that :( 21.13.51 # you might have to power off and repeat several times in a row 21.14.19 # well i would semi-plug the usb core on the clip and keep it ready to insert with one hand, which will also keep the clip stable 21.14.28 # and use the screwdriver with the other hand 21.14.38 # AlexP: Treble/bass is hardware on H1x0 21.14.44 # or use the same hand to keep stability and hold screwdriver, and the other one to plug usb 21.15.46 # amiconn: OK, cheers - just replaygain then 21.16.37 # And replaygain isn't a process. It just sets the input gain. It's very fast. So a good comparison. 21.18.27 Part Blue_Dude 21.19.54 # funman: when 'm not full of flu tablets ill try it out... if you or someone wants me to send you then clip that cna be arranged also 21.20.49 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p548D1F8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.22.22 Join rbert [0] (i=www-data@83.168.254.42) 21.22.34 Join Kumool [0] (n=Monevo@adsl-72-50-74-135.prtc.net) 21.22.46 Quit rbert (Client Quit) 21.22.53 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 21.23.06 # i'll focus on clipv2 first :) 21.23.17 # it'd be nice to know how clipv2 & clip+ are similar though 21.23.57 # i need help repairing my sansa e200 v1. it's working fine software/firmware wise but the tactile hardware is messed up. the volume button has overtaken the function of the play button. 21.24.02 Quit Kumool ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 21.24.30 # can this be fixed? got some experience with something similar on that target? 21.24.56 # funman: they are the same internally no? cliv2 is just missing the sd slot 21.26.22 # well i would like to know 21.26.27 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.26.46 # BdN3504: try the hardware section in the forums 21.29.20 # ty 21.35.47 Quit BdN3504 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.39.23 Quit AB3JU (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.39.23 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 21.39.23 Quit Hadaka (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.39.24 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.39.47 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 21.39.47 NJoin AB3JU [0] (n=dz@alt.dissonance.nl) 21.39.47 NJoin Hadaka [0] (n=naked@naked.iki.fi) 21.40.03 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 21.40.08 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.41.27 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 21.45.00 Join polobricolo [0] (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-34-16.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.45.44 Join froggyman [0] (n=chatzill@pool-72-69-88-109.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.51.22 Join evilnick [0] (i=4571af51@gateway/web/freenode/x-hlhnjaioqqyxupfn) 21.54.39 # New commit by 03pixelma (r22786): Update German translation. 22.03.34 Quit Grahack ("Leaving.") 22.06.02 # New commit by 03pixelma (r22787): Update German translation in the release branch. 22.07.26 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 22.11.12 Join fml [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 22.11.21 Join merbzt1 [0] (n=benlar@193.13.246.198) 22.11.59 # pixelma: is the translation of "While playing screen" to German correct? Doesn't the option show THE wps? 22.14.12 # how do you mean the question? 22.14.47 # pixelma: I mean that the menu entry doesn't just allow to browse the files but shows the file currently in use 22.15.12 Quit merbanan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.15.26 # That's why it now reads "while plaing screen" and not "Browse wps files" 22.15.28 # it shows the WPS file browser and was renamed in English since the change to highlight the current WPS (so it looks like a setting not a browser) 22.15.35 # yes 22.16.26 # which is why I left out "Zeige", you can discuss if the rest should be plural then 22.16.27 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.16.58 # or singular - or even better: maybe you have a better name for "WPS-Datei" 22.17.50 # fml: adding a if (!fail) before that line should fix your problem... 22.17.54 # pixelma: yes, I think it should be singular since it's one option 22.19.26 # JdGordon|: I think there is another problem there. If the parse function fails num_tokens is not incremented which is wrong IMO. But what is the sense of unconditionally adding a NO_TOKEN? Can't it lead to an overflow in a worst case? 22.20.29 # I have to admit that I noticed that too now when looking at the diff through ViewVC... if you have an even better suggestion please let me know 22.20.39 # JdGordon|: so there are two or three losely related (but very minor) problems in that code area. But I've never had a real problem there so I won't do anything! :-) 22.20.58 # fml: back in a few min, but no there hsould be no danger of overflow 22.21.37 # pixelma: WPS-Layout? But it's not very German :-) 22.22.13 # now that we know the clipv2/fuzev2 aren't as3531 based I'm not sure how to integrate them in the target tree 22.22.38 # I somehow hoped to get rid of the "file" or something else addition, something for the pure "While Playing Screen" as it is done in English 22.23.17 # i would use as3525/ folder with a define, but we need a correct name : HAVE_AS3525+ ? HAVE_AS3525_V2 ? 22.23.28 # pixelma: Actually, "WPS-Layout" very well describes what it's about 22.23.49 # And it doesn't have "file" in it 22.24.13 # it doesn't explain WPS and still has an addition 22.24.17 # Now we just have to explaint what WPS means :-) 22.25.45 # pixelma: also, in "Fernbedienungs-Statusleiste", I'm not sure whether the "s" before the "-" is needed. It would be if it was one word, but with a "-"... I'm not sure. 22.25.46 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 22.26.51 # hmm 22.27.42 # Such problems can be avoided by reordering the words, e.g. "Statusleiste auf der Fernbedienung" or "Position der Bildlaufleisten" 22.27.51 # urgh 22.27.56 # who are the devs owning a Clipv2/Fuzev2 except me and kugel ? 22.28.03 # do you have two displays? 22.28.03 # fml: it is added because the displayer handles the sblines badly... it dor for(i=start_idx, i<=end_idx,i++) instead of just < 22.28.14 # I'm never 100% sure how to write such composites 22.28.16 # funman: I have a clipv2 22.29.31 Quit merbzt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.29.49 # well if you have a remote you have... but then you need 10 seconds until that option scrolled by on that tiny screen (compared to 5 for the other way) ;) 22.29.50 # JdGordon|: can't we change the semantics of the end_idx to be the "index of the next..."? The we could use "<" and all would be fine 22.29.51 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-oftzsrkugkqlgaen) 22.30.24 # funman: are you aware we seem to have copied the Sandisk pitch bug when we copied the sandisk clock settings? 22.30.54 # we could... it just hasnt been done 22.30.58 # pixelma: he-he 22.30.59 # Zagor: are you interested into reverse engineering the SD driver ? 22.31.08 # saratoga: no.. which settings did we copy exactly ? 22.31.17 # although that last token should always be th END_CONDITONAL token anyway 22.31.18 # funman: the result? yes. the work? not so much :-) 22.31.32 # okok :) 22.31.43 # JdGordon|: "we" -- maybe, but not me. That delivers the solution of the equation: "you" :-))) 22.31.50 # JdGordon|: did album art always get drawn over top of the "touch buttons" (eg. in the mrobe500 cabbiev2) or is that a new bug? 22.32.00 # no idea 22.32.10 # possibly new 22.32.17 # probably new 22.32.23 # funman: the PLL settings don't evenly divide into 44100 Hz, so the actual sample rate is something like 43500Hz 22.32.30 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 22.32.45 # the datasheet recommends running the PLL higher and using larger dividers so that you can hit 44100 exactly 22.33.02 # JdGordon|: any idea how I might fix it? I know practically nothing about the WPS drawing code :/ 22.33.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.34.06 # ill try to have a look later today if i get a chance... its probbaly a quick fix 22.34.16 # s/probably/hopefully/ :) 22.34.26 # 43.5kHz seems a lot 22.34.53 Quit GeekShadow (Success) 22.36.47 Join vitja_ [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 22.37.01 Quit vitja (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.39.00 Quit courtc (Remote closed the connection) 22.41.23 # funman: the 3525 sheet recommends on page 112 (fig 43) a 384MHz PLL, we use 248MHz 22.42.30 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.43.05 # huh theres code for doing 384 in SVN 22.43.07 # * kugel dislikes most of the german translation 22.43.08 # i wonder why it wasn't used 22.43.37 # kugel: critizising is easy 22.43.40 # saratoga: don't remember 22.43.52 # pixelma: do you prefer connecting substantives with a dash, or did you just do it? 22.43.59 # ah yes: fastest boosted fclk (248MHz, < 250MHz) 22.44.31 # I personally find it ugly, and would use Bildlaufleistenposition (maybe even "Position der Bildlaufleiste") 22.46.07 # saratoga: FlynDice made some profiles 22.46.33 # so we'd have to run the CPU clock async to the PLL 22.46.35 # kugel: I did it to be consistent with what we have, I don't actually like the look of it but it's not wrong. The composite is better than sentence style because it's shorter 22.46.47 # was that slower? 22.46.58 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 22.47.11 # kugel: broken space bar? or is gernam really that awesome? :) 22.47.28 # saratoga: i find 44034Hz with the current settings 22.47.32 # JdGordon|: the latter 22.47.33 # what are you refering too? 22.47.52 # Bildlaufleistenposition 22.48.10 # saratoga: with 384MHz PLL we'd have 64MHz pclk and 240MHz fclk iirc 22.48.18 # Bildlaufleiste = scrollbar, where's the "broken" in that? 22.48.22 # funman: hmm let me double check thats not what I got before 22.48.33 # JdGordon|: swedish is like that too. you just string the words together. 22.48.33 # with fclk = 5/8 plla 22.48.52 # pixelma: I prefer easy to read and understand over short. Anyway, could we possibly change all strings to avoid the dash separator? I really hate that one 22.49.01 # JdGordon|: you combine words completely, unfortunately many start to take those apart like it's done in English and that is plain wrong (though modern) 22.49.28 # very acceptable (the lower fclk is compensated by higher pclk i think - needs to be verified -, and worth if we get more precise audio clock) 22.49.47 # * kugel also wouldn't have translated skin, since it actually refers to an internal rockbox term 22.50.18 # users don't care about internal terms 22.50.23 # but I'll stop complain now :) better than doing it myself :p 22.50.31 # kugel: if you want to have Fernbedienungsbildlaufleiste in one word... also I won't do that now 22.50.56 # Zagor: that's why I didn't touch it. I'm not very good at predicting what the user cares about 22.51.50 # funman: ok i'll try to measure it when i get a chance 22.52.07 # kugel: if you read logs, the "Skin" there is a strong candidate to be changed anyways... 22.52.22 # * kugel seems to have missed it 22.52.45 # saratoga: i did: div = (PLLA+(44100/2))/44100; and freq = PLLA/div/128 22.52.46 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 22.52.50 # It seems pretty certsin it will be changed 22.52.54 # *certain 22.53.34 # skin is definitely something different as a skin. if skin is to become theme, we need to change the theme term 22.54.03 # I don't see what's wrong with skin. It's nice and short, and used internally only anyway 22.54.11 # It isn't though 22.54.16 # a what? Can you explain the difference between skin and theme? 22.54.17 # It is in the debug menu 22.54.32 # thought it was the Info screen 22.54.32 # To me a skin is one of the screens - wps, rec, fm, etc 22.54.38 # bah i have matlab right here i'll just measure it exactly 22.54.38 # pixelma: sorry, yes 22.54.44 # AlexP: that's the only place. hardly a reason to change this nice and short term in a dozens of files 22.54.46 # theme is the whole lot 22.54.53 # kugel: Nobody said that 22.55.01 # kugel: It is just the phrase in the lang 22.55.11 # oh alright 22.55.14 # saratoga: look at pcm_dma_apply_settings() in pcm-as3525.c 22.55.52 # AlexP: the custom statusbar can show in many screens 22.56.09 Join BdN3504 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 22.56.16 # kugel: so that is another skin 22.56.30 # i.e. there is a skin for the wps, a skin for the statusbar, a skin for fm etc 22.56.33 # yes, I was refering to "To me a skin is one of the screens - wps, rec, fm, etc" 22.56.38 # A theme is the collection of those 22.56.57 # anyway, the only thing that has been said here is to change the item in the UI 22.57.02 # would it be possible to run rockbox without the play button on the e200? 22.57.04 # it is indeed just another skin, but it's not bound to a screen 22.57.12 # sure 22.57.19 # which files would i have to edit in the source? 22.57.45 # apps/keymaps/keymap-e200.c 22.58.19 # kugel: Sorry, I wasn't being that pedantic - those were just examples 22.58.20 # an easy way would to swap REC and PLAY if you're not using REC anyway (it'll just be a two liner) 22.59.07 # that's a good plan 22.59.54 # pixelma: a skin is a file that uses our markup language to interact with the skinning engine. A theme may consist of many themes, a skin may run with many themes. A theme also has other settings. A theme is really "the whole lot" as it has been said 23.00.20 # AlexP: so i simply delete all instances of "BUTTON_UP"? 23.00.44 # BdN3504: Surely you want to change the functions normally done by play to other buttons, not just remove them? 23.00.46 # kugel: oh that's a good idea 23.00.56 # take a look at firmware/target/arm/sandisk/sansa-e200/button-target.h 23.00.59 # If you don't use rec, follow kugel's suggestion 23.00.59 # yes, and what usage is shown there then (once "complete")? 23.01.37 # hm no 23.02.08 # actually, button-e200.c. swap the lines that look like "btn |= BUTTON_REC" and "btn |= BUTTON_UP" 23.02.43 # but i don't want button up to be assigned to anything because that button is broken 23.03.18 # it doesn't matter 23.03.21 # if it's broken it can't do anything? 23.03.35 # It'll just "do" what rec once did 23.03.46 # i.e. you'll lose the functions on rec 23.03.49 # it works too much, it responds if i only touch it slightly and repeats the action 23.03.54 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.04.00 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.04.06 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 23.04.18 # i never record, so i can live without that. are there other functions rec is assigned to? 23.04.32 # some plugins use it i think 23.04.33 # then change "#define BUTTON_UP 0x00....." to "#define BUTTON_UP 0". That'll get you the button ignored compeltely 23.04.47 # cool, thank you 23.04.47 # that change would be in button-target.h 23.04.51 # you probably still want to swap them 23.04.59 # yea, both changes are needed 23.05.04 # As otherwise you won't be able to do anything that was on play 23.08.40 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 23.09.28 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23.09.33 # the Clipv1 and v2 OF API for SD access is very similar (high level functions pointers are stored in the same order) 23.11.32 # funman: I measure 43,791 Hz 23.12.07 # or 0.993 of the target value 23.12.37 # saratoga: measure = with a DMM ? 23.12.46 # funman: PC sound card 23.13.14 # clock-target.h should make it easy to make several tests 23.13.54 # this is consistent with the claimed values for the Sandisk pitch bug 23.15.20 # do you remember in which OF the bug was present/added/fixed? we could compare what they changed 23.15.30 # kugel: AlexP: could you confirm that this is correct? http://pastebin.com/f2bd3a57f 23.15.42 # funman: hmm i 'm wrong i think 23.15.58 # BdN3504: that's not what I told you to do 23.15.58 # i get that we're 0.7% higher, not 0.7% slower 23.16.07 # IIRC the sandisk firmware undershot 23.16.18 # just changing the keymap file won't fix plugins for you 23.16.21 # funman: as far as I know they all still have it 23.16.34 # supposedly the fuze is getting it fixed in the next release though 23.17.03 # funman: http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clipplus&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=391#M391 23.17.28 # kugel: what do you mean? i changed keymap and button target 23.17.42 # "actually, button-e200.c. swap the lines that look like "btn |= BUTTON_REC" and "btn |= BUTTON_UP"" 23.19.46 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@81.187.69.84) 23.19.53 # saratoga: are you still working on fs 10605 ? 23.20.06 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.20.13 # i'm not sure what is needed now, I've been using this patch ok for some days 23.20.22 # funman: i am 23.20.27 # did it make much difference for you? 23.20.35 Quit Lear_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 23.20.43 # no crash at all 23.20.46 # wow 23.20.50 # how odd 23.21.03 # why? isn't that the intention? 23.21.12 # i dismissed the second change in that patch (the bounds checking) as ineffective when I tested on the sim 23.21.17 # since i still got deadlocks 23.21.24 # but i didn't try on the clip . . . 23.21.32 # i only used the first patch 23.21.42 # kugel: is this correct now? http://pastebin.com/fccbeeb7 23.21.50 # which is only effective on clip/m200v4/c200v2 23.21.58 # oh ok 23.22.02 # yeah thats what i've been testing 23.22.12 # all the deadlocks I got on the sim were from that bug 23.22.15 # yea, but dont change the keymap file 23.22.26 # but that condition should only ever happen on track change, and I often see clip crashes mid track 23.22.30 # ok, thank you! 23.22.32 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.22.40 # yes that did happen 23.22.40 # clip deadlocks rather 23.22.59 # or if the clip is trying to load a codec mid track that could be a good part of the reason it dies :) 23.23.32 # ^^ 23.23.53 Quit BdN3504 ("CGI:IRC") 23.23.54 # why would such a thing happen? the pcm buffer of the clip is quite small 23.24.08 # funman: regarding the first patch, I think buffering codecs on the clip makes little sense so I am ok with that, however its not really a proper solution since 1) its still buffering the codec when it shouldn't be and 2) it shouldn't crash 23.24.08 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 23.24.09 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@77-99-223-115.cable.ubr16.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.24.51 # funman: if you are bored you could try putting a single logf next to the code in that patch and see if you ever get output on your clip while listening 23.25.03 # it would be intersting to see if its actually reloading the codec mid track 23.25.17 # i did notice on the sim that if often reloaded the codec on track change even when it didn't need to 23.25.32 # it should only load a codec from the disk on codec change 23.25.49 # Zagor: I have put my buildclients online again, but it doesn't seem to make a difference - in fact times have gone up (if one can judge from 2builds) 23.26.03 # even more puzzelingly, when I switched back and forth between WMA, MP3 and AAC rapidly, I could do it 100 times without getting a crash, even though it'd reload the codec file everytime 23.26.21 # it shouldn't buffer the codec at all in a mp3 only playlist 23.26.31 # one would think! 23.26.32 # Zagor: there are also still builds with truncated log (i.e. http://build.rockbox.org/data/22782-clients.html) 23.27.25 # saratoga: problem is i'm not bored :) 23.27.31 # yeah me neither 23.28.00 # anyway it's nice to see things go forward on sansa ams 23.28.19 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.29.18 # well we could put a test build for the patch and see what people say 23.29.30 # i've often observed long periods without a crash on my clip just by chance 23.31.03 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.34.10 # we could do m200v4 in the same process 23.34.26 # together with bootloaders? 23.35.16 # New commit by 03kugel (r22788): Few website/target updates. ... 23.35.26 Quit KylePolansky () 23.35.28 # i have no objection 23.35.28 # yh925 unstable \o/ 23.35.32 # nice 23.35.38 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-81-160-226.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.35.41 # it just needs a site update from zagor now 23.36.49 # kugel: what about yh820/yh920 ? 23.38.00 # are they ready? 23.38.06 # I can't tell 23.38.26 # i don't believe there is a difference with yh925 23.38.27 # i think so 23.38.38 # do they install with rbutil in the current release? 23.38.47 Join T44 [0] (i=Topy44@g228141136.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.38.50 # one of them didn't even have sound a while ago :) 23.39.01 # i'll build rbutil & see 23.39.12 # just download it 23.39.18 Join safetydan [0] (n=deverton@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 23.39.45 # who has a yh820 except lowlight? 23.40.02 # no rbutil support 23.40.20 # ? 23.40.33 # the AMS are the only supported devices with rbutil support 23.40.44 # those don't even work 23.40.52 # it looks for the wrong .zip 23.40.55 # kugel: updated 23.41.25 # i don't see samsung in rbutilqt 23.41.50 # Zagor: what's needed to change the produced zip to rockbox-sansafuze.zip and -sansae200v2.zip (more consistent with older sansas + rbutil looks for that filename) 23.41.54 # thanks for updating 23.42.09 Quit Utchybann ("I like core dumps") 23.42.31 # We really need a canonical list of target names, so we can beat everything into submission 23.42.40 Quit esperegu (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.42.54 # Zagor: what's wrong wiht the images on the current build page? the samsung is just gone now, ondio sp image is missing since a while already 23.43.00 Join bfr [0] (i=6389c8fa@gateway/web/freenode/x-dpyvglcbufmydizh) 23.43.33 # kugel: works for me 23.43.33 # Hello 23.43.33 # kugel: looks fine for me 23.43.33 # I don't see Onda either 23.43.47 # strange 23.44.00 # oO 23.44.18 # ctrl+- (zoom) made them show 23.44.28 # funman: onda isn't in the list 23.44.30 # still there after zooming back 23.44.51 # * kugel blames bugged ff 3.5 23.45.21 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 23.45.25 # Zagor: [ondavx747] has a brand=Onda entry in rbutil.ini 23.45.59 # oh they have status=disabled 23.47.21 # bootloader not found for yh920 23.47.24 Quit bfr (Client Quit) 23.47.39 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 23.47.41 # 404 for current build as well 23.49.29 Quit Strife89 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.49.59 # hm, it's rockbox-sansafuze.zip already 23.52.00 # kugel: isn't the bootloadername incorrect for yh925 (in rbutil.ini) : should be /samsung/yh925/bla ? 23.52.06 # (same for yh*) 23.52.27 # kugel: yes that changed when the builds file changed 23.52.57 # funman: yes 23.53.07 # what's in rbutil.ini? 23.53.14 # bootloadername=/samsung/FW_YH925.mi4 23.53.24 # yea that's wrong 23.53.35 # i'll look at it tomorrow, together with bootloader for yh*20 23.53.38 # arg, no rbutil :( 23.54.17 Join bfr [0] (i=6389c8fa@gateway/web/freenode/x-luleivzmhkdabwoz) 23.54.42 # ? 23.55.08 # Hello, I got an error that said bootloader mismatch. aborting. 23.55.08 # rbutil was released yesterday, it probably won't change for the next week 23.55.34 # bfr: on which target? 23.55.52 # oh and yh920 needs greylib 23.55.59 # complete installation? 23.56.08 # bfr: which audio player ? 23.56.29 # Sansa E280 23.56.30 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.57.21 # funman: I'm wrong again 23.57.38 # i redid it correctly this time (i had flipped the sandisk and RB wavs) 23.57.45 # we are 0.9985 of the correct sampling rate 23.57.54 Quit roolku () 23.58.24 # bfr: OS ? 23.58.30 # Vista