--- Log for 26.09.109 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.15 Quit niekie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.00.44 Join niekie [0] (i=quasselc@dreamworld.bergnetworks.com) 00.09.37 Quit LL-Hell () 00.12.22 # somehow the lang make dependency is broken again 00.15.22 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 00.17.42 Quit Lynx_ (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 00.19.07 # kugel: On SH1 it is more efficient to order struct members so that the smallest ones come first under certain conditions 00.19.44 # This is due to the possible range of fixed offset addressing depending on whether it applies to bytes, shorts, or ints 00.21.16 # Offsets of up to 15 can be addressed - in multiples of 1, 2 or 4 depending on the datatype 00.21.56 # Larger offsets require using a register 00.28.35 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.29.36 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3D3DC.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.32.35 Quit Buschel (Client Quit) 00.34.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.41.59 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.45.36 Quit esperegu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.48.20 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@giant.haxx.se) 00.48.40 # mt: i don't think our MDCT is optimal, but its fairly fast 00.48.59 # i started working on a faster one based on the FFT rotation method you mentioned before, but haven't gotten around to finishing it 00.49.06 # and i'm not sure it'd even be faster 00.56.42 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 00.57.27 Quit ender` (" Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate. - Jones Law - ... and sometimes the real trick is telling the difference. --") 01.01.32 Join moonscapex [0] (n=moonscap@d173-183-151-230.abhsia.telus.net) 01.01.54 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 01.04.38 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 01.07.07 Quit funman ("leaving") 01.07.15 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-0efa70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 01.09.07 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 01.15.18 Join intrados1 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 01.18.41 # saratoga: I guess it would be faster. Several implementations were able to speed tremor up nicely mostly through new mdct code. Would this also simplify using our mdct in liba52 ? 01.23.48 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 01.24.33 # mt: the a52 code does expect an FFT based MDCT, so it would be simplier 01.24.54 # however, our current imdct is faster then all the FFT based ones already available to us 01.24.55 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.25.16 Quit howell (Connection timed out) 01.25.28 # i started work on one based on the new ffmpeg FFT, which looks quite fast 01.25.39 # hi! is last.fm scrobbling support working in the latest Cowon D2 build? 01.25.39 # i've got some multiplication/addition counts for it if you're interested 01.25.49 # saratoga: I see. So do you have any code/patches to see if I could help ? 01.26.17 # Yes, please. :) 01.27.54 # saratoga: Check this http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/docs/embedded_vorbis_thesis.pdf and the links from stripwax and me in the logs. 01.28.25 Quit DarkDefender (Remote closed the connection) 01.30.10 # Can someone rysnc fft.v5? (visualizer plugin) 01.30.22 # mt: yes I read that a while ago 01.30.33 # its for a TI DSP though so I'm not sure how applicable it is to us 01.31.10 Quit intrados (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.31.25 # let me dig up my code 01.32.47 # er - The last link was for embedded systems, I guess you're talking about the TI document I linked to eariler. This one addresses also systems with a general-purpose processor + a DSP 01.35.26 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@99-203-114-252.pools.spcsdns.net) 01.35.35 # mt: the link you just posted uses a TI dsp to run the FFT 01.36.18 # IIRC they used the TI provided FFT, which is why its so fast 01.36.33 # the trick for us would be to write such a fast fft 01.36.55 # yeah they have highly trained savant midgets they keep locked in woodden boxes with holes drilled in for that kind of thing 01.37.06 # they let them out when they need insane dsp coding done :) 01.37.25 # :D 01.38.33 # IIRC the ARM provided reference MDCT [which of course is not open source] was something like 1/3 faster then our implementation on ARM7 01.42.07 # mt: i have the code i wrote for an FFT based IMDCT, but its against r18000 or so 01.42.22 # I basically took the old WMA decoder from when it still used the ffmpeg IMDCT and started there 01.42.26 # would you like a copy? 01.42.48 # sure. 01.43.23 # ok i'll 7z the whole folder and throw it up for download so you don't have to track down the right version to patch 01.43.40 # IIRC it compiles but the audio is wrong due to some bug in the mdct that i didn't track down 01.43.50 # probabyl a floating poitn value i missed somewhere 01.44.05 # the ffmpeg FFT is amazing compact actually, changing it to fixed point was pretty easy, but i did something wrong 01.44.33 # they wrote basically the whole thing out of c preprocessor statements 01.44.40 # and it preprocesses into an FFT 01.44.50 # a very impressive bit of code 01.45.18 # mt: are you on a fast connection? 01.45.21 # wow 01.46.05 # saratoga: not really - 1mbps dl/ 256 kbps up :/ 01.46.41 # well a 30MB download should be ok? 01.46.59 # yes 01.50.16 # http://www.lartmaker.nl/projects/fft-arm/ :) .. the project seems idle though. 01.51.16 # can i have the rockbox coder badge added to my forum profile? my uname is moonscapex 01.51.21 # mt: http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/mdctexp.7z 01.51.31 # Thanks ! 01.51.44 # moonscapex: i don't think you have any code in SVN? 01.52.12 # and anyway i think we're getting rid of that badge since no one actually has one 01.52.22 # mt: for what its worth, I think a fast mdct would be very useful 01.52.36 # ok... sorry 01.52.40 # and i'm sure ours could be made faster 01.54.15 # Great. I thought so too, but mainly because I thought (or maybe hoped ? :) ) there could be a simpler implementation that was more modular. (similar to ffmpeg's for example) 01.54.32 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.54.34 Quit Lss__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.56.07 # mt: my original goal was to stick with the old ffmpeg FFT, but it was really slow 01.56.20 # IIRC on PP the Tremor one was almost a full third faster 01.58.22 # have you tested the new one vs tremor ? 01.59.05 # mt: i didn't test it, seemed unfair since it didn't work 01.59.37 # Ah ok. 01.59.41 # at least on ARM, the latency for multiplies depends on the values being multiplied, so an fft run with garbage values won't run at the same speed as one run with real data 02.00.08 # i tried to compute the multiply counts for our current MDCT, but that proved harder then i expected due to its complexity 02.00.32 # I see 02.01.54 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@62.1.89.28) 02.11.32 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 02.12.37 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.12.59 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.14.42 Quit darkham (Client Quit) 02.34.37 Quit efyx_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.34.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.40.30 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 02.40.42 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 02.45.50 Quit mt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.58.35 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r22837): new skin tag: %Sx|| will display the current languages translation of the "" string. ... 02.59.00 # rasher: scorche: can you please update checkwps on the themes site for that checkin? 02.59.17 # and can someone else do the manual/wiki addition? 03.00.31 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-240.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.01.56 Quit moonscapex (Remote closed the connection) 03.04.29 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 03.09.14 # are there any features I can disable on a clip build to free up more memory while I'm debugging? 03.15.36 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.16.36 # anyone want to take bets on how long it takes themers to use the new token? 03.18.47 # getting the clip to not reboot on USB plugin is hard 03.19.42 # unless i'm missing something, logf doesn't actually work on the clip 03.19.48 # at least nothing ever prints 03.21.04 # i have the logf option in the debug menu, so I assume i've compiled it correctly 03.24.32 # huh i get no output on the e200v1 either 03.24.36 # is there something else i have to do 03.32.45 # usb + logf together? 03.34.08 # no just plain logf, but i think i didn't add the LOGF_ENABLE define 03.34.36 # also FS#9734 - logf add log level would be REALLY nice to have in SVN 03.36.25 # so commit it :) 03.36.28 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 03.41.44 # i don't really understand that code well 03.41.49 # but i will probably try to commit something 03.48.01 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 03.48.03 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.48.13 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from 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What happens if an english string changes in svn (typo fix, different capitalisation or better wording)? 08.25.11 Quit torx (Client Quit) 08.25.15 Join to3x [0] (n=724906e9@giant.haxx.se) 08.26.25 # Hi, is there a way to make rockbox ignore the battery status? my battery (ipod nano 1st gen) always reports 0% making rockbox shutdown... 08.28.34 # Oh, and scanning the whole list of string for every %St tag seems very inefficient. 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14.57.44 Join raphi [0] (n=raphi@pub082136118205.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) 14.58.14 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.03.11 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 15.06.58 Quit stoffel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.14.07 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4E7C5.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.16.09 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 15.20.11 Quit GeekShado_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.22.27 Quit robin0800_ (Remote closed the connection) 15.23.31 Quit ender` (" The hero is not entitled to a last kiss, a last cigarette, or any other form of last request. -- Evil Overlord List #14") 15.33.43 Join cheslot [0] (n=d8da3ff9@giant.haxx.se) 15.34.23 # How remote control runs? 15.34.38 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 15.34.57 # How remote control runs? 15.35.30 Quit cheslot (Client Quit) 15.53.51 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 15.55.58 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Strife89@adsl-154-11-232.mcn.bellsouth.net) 15.58.18 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@general-kt-199.t-mobile.co.uk) 16.05.17 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-137-199-55.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 16.05.49 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.06.13 Join GeekShado_ [0] (n=Antoine@98.235.192-77.rev.gaoland.net) 16.07.45 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 16.08.30 Join GeekShad__ [0] (n=Antoine@153.147.69-86.rev.gaoland.net) 16.09.13 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 16.09.27 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-52-105.unitymediagroup.de) 16.11.47 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.17.37 Quit JackWinter (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.17.54 Join JackWinter [0] (n=jack3@vodsl-10103.vo.lu) 16.22.20 Quit toffe82_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.23.54 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.25.19 Quit GeekShado_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.29.41 # hello 16.29.58 # i did install rockbox on a ipod nano 1st generation 16.30.18 # no way to pause skip or stop 16.30.48 # everything work but no control when i play a track 16.32.32 # did you enable "Party Mode" accidently? 16.33.53 # i don't think so 16.34.47 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-234-227.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 16.35.13 # yeah it was on 16.35.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.36.35 # i do i switch back to the regular firmware 16.39.57 # and turn it off too 16.40.39 # DirtySkeMe: the manual tells you how to do that among other things 16.41.55 # DirtySkeMe: I don't think the ipod party setting will effect rockbox? 16.42.28 # * bertrik spots an error on the MajorChanges page 16.45.56 Quit rphillips (Client Quit) 16.46.40 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.49.02 Join rphillips [0] (n=rphillip@66-90-184-91.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 16.51.36 # robin0800_: Party Mode is a Rockbox setting 16.54.28 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 16.55.35 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 16.58.34 # New commit by 03nls (r22839): FS#10569 RTC driver cleanup ... 17.02.17 # pixelma: I know I was not sure why he thought he had to go to the OF to change something as well 17.07.20 Join gb_master [0] (i=82c03212@gateway/web/freenode/x-wjqspjavdefnhssn) 17.08.05 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.08.54 # yay, red 17.11.51 # does USB HID control work on the cowon x5 and/or sansa clip? i searched the wiki and manuals (and of course all settings on my players), but didn't find out how to use it 17.12.09 # nope 17.13.13 # nope to my question? 17.13.45 # the x5 has a hardware usb-ata bridge so we can't do it and i don't think rockbox has working usb on ams targets yet 17.14.53 # i see... damn. thanks for the info 17.15.08 # New commit by 03nls (r22840): Add missing parentheses to fix red 17.20.32 Join maffe [0] (n=Miranda@77-21-35-240-dynip.superkabel.de) 17.21.59 # nls, don't most of the clock chips work in BCD format? 17.22.05 # hi 17.23.06 # sorry, n1s that is 17.23.30 # I cannot find the voice files 17.23.36 # on the web page 17.23.44 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxExtras refers to http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 17.23.48 # New commit by 03rob (r22841): Make the EQ screen usable in touchscreen grid mode by resolving keymap conflicts. 17.24.54 # kkurbjun: i think so but i still think this is much cleaner for the chips that don't and only slightly less convenient for the chips that do 17.27.33 Join polobricolo [0] (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-34-16.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.30.02 # kkurbjun: seen my little complaint yesterday about brickmania on small screens? 17.31.09 # n1s, fair enough, it does clean it up quite a bit 17.31.15 # pixelma: no, I have not 17.31.49 # * gevaerts disappears for a while. He needs some sleep 17.32.34 # kkurbjun: yes i think it does and some of the ones that do use bcd still had to jump through hoops to conform to the expected order of the data 17.34.48 # kkurbjun: bertrik also pointed out that there is a bug report (with an attached fix) for it. Basically one of each speed settings can get zero if the gamescreen height is under a certain limit - which means the ball sometimes either moves completely vertically - or even horizontally amd that powerups don't fall down anymore 17.35.02 # ahh 17.36.26 # I see that bug report.. 17.36.28 # hmm 17.36.59 # so what screen size is having trouble? 17.37.34 # maybe the ball speed and position could be done in a higher precision (e.g. using fixed point) 17.37.38 # I am curious if there should be provisions for screens that are even smaller 17.38.18 # bertrik: well, that could take into account really small screens 17.38.27 # that would be a ton of work to add to brickmania though 17.38.55 # if I understood correctly everything with a gamescreen height (= LCD_HEIGHT on landscape screen) less high than 176/2 - which means c200 (80) and the newer small Sansas and the bitmap Archoses (64) 17.39.53 # I saw it on the c200 but could also test on my Ondio 17.40.35 # so, another part of the problem on really small screens is that the differnt paddle position hits will calculate out to the same x speed 17.41.36 # so if you hit quarter 4, 3, or 2 on the 64 pixel archos the speed will calculate out the same 17.41.53 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.42.01 Quit polobricolo (Remote closed the connection) 17.42.33 # short of what bertrik suggested (changing the calculations out to fixed point) this will be a problem 17.42.56 # actually the y speed has the same problem 17.43.01 # well it worked fine before, even if code was less unified 17.43.39 # I really don't have the time to convert brickmania to fixed point - I will just revert the /fix/ 17.44.35 # as I said, on my c200 the ball currently moves horizontally between a corner of the paddle and the side... (and as it saves and resumes, I kept it this way...) 17.45.06 # just in case anyone wants to see it ;) 17.45.36 # I could fix it easily to have everything calculate out to non zero at the least as the patch in the bug report does 17.45.49 # pixelma: I believe you 17.45.53 Nick jfc^3 is now known as jfc (n=john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 17.46.12 # pixelma: could you try that patch and see what you think of the results? 17.46.23 Join polobricolo [0] (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-34-16.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.48.15 Quit Strife89 ("If you hold a Linux shell to your ear, you can hear the C.") 17.50.50 # kkurbjun: sure, it'll take a bit. But you could also have a look yourself in a sim, just saying 17.51.51 # I know what the results are going to be, I want to get a second opinion on the playability of the patch 17.52.12 # I am assuming the patch works, but it changes the way that the game is played 17.54.16 Join Buschel [0] (n=ab@p54A3B037.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.56.57 # ok, updating and compiling. As I said it'll take a bit. 18.01.25 Quit gb_master ("Page closed") 18.01.36 Quit robin0800_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.03.05 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@host14-176-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.04.40 Quit Buschel () 18.06.27 Quit antil33t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.08.46 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-42-154.net.novis.pt) 18.09.14 # hello 18.13.00 # is there a way to search on IRC log? 18.13.49 # yes 18.14.08 # how? :-) 18.15.13 # google site:rockbox.org/irc 18.15.18 # for example 18.15.53 # (or do it as amiconn does and download them all and grep) 18.18.00 # you should not use <> btw, they are only there to emphasise the fact that you should substiutute the token 18.18.29 # on google I coun'dt find what I were looking 18.18.50 # looks like that way it do not work as I was expecting 18.20.31 # it's like regular google, limited to the specified site 18.21.06 # ok, thanks anyway 18.24.08 Quit intrados1 (Connection timed out) 18.24.46 # did anyone else notice that when leaving robotfindskitten after end of game, the first line still scroll in the statusbar area? Maybe it only happens on small enough displays where it has to scroll. 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I need to make a new script file for a new port 19.10.15 Quit darkham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.47 # pixelma: I don't play robotsfindskitten, but noticed this on the iPod simulator while playing with the Lua plugin too. The first line sometimes still scrolls. 19.22.42 # Bob_C: they don't get "picked up by make", make finds it needs to link and the link command line uses the link scripts (.lds) 19.26.47 # Ok, so how does link know what lds to use? 19.28.14 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 19.29.38 # the tools/root.make specifies it 19.29.54 # use make V=1 to see the full command lines 19.29.59 # so it is in the makefile then? 19.31.03 # yes and no 19.31.33 # New commit by 03rob (r22842): Improved Cowon D2 touchscreen driver. ... 19.33.39 # New commit by 03rob (r22843): Add a few pixels "dead zone" between the touchscreen grid "buttons", to avoid jitter. ... 19.35.46 # ok, never mind 19.50.37 Join Topy [0] (i=Topy44@f048003048.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.53.57 Quit stoffel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.54.24 Join kyle6513 [0] (n=kyle6513@58.174.128.189) 19.58.03 Quit DirtySkeMe (Remote closed the connection) 19.59.09 Join PaulJam [0] (n=Paule@p54BEFF36.dip.t-dialin.net) 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22.41.22 NJoin niekie [0] (i=quasselc@dreamworld.bergnetworks.com) 22.41.22 NJoin JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.45.31 # http://www.plusgsm.com.br/forums/showthread.php?t=129415 22.45.37 # it makes you curious... 22.50.22 # Ah, the RAZR port. Shouldn't the source be available too? 22.50.29 # it should indeed 22.50.52 # as it says rockbox 3.3 I figure it should be reasonably up-to-date 22.51.17 # About 3 months old at most, I'd say :) 22.51.33 # wow, how did you figure that out? B) 22.53.24 Quit intrados4 (Connection timed out) 22.53.33 Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") 22.53.55 Join intrados4 [0] (n=intrados@75.187.57.252) 22.54.59 Quit intrados4 (SendQ exceeded) 22.56.18 Join intrados4 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 22.58.22 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-sedboncozyqgvokp) 22.58.44 # we could save a lot of that bandwidth if we used 7z for the builds 22.58.52 # *ducks* 22.59.03 # That's oold 22.59.35 # * amiconn thinks that if rbutil gets 7z support, switching would be no problem 22.59.49 # Is bandwidth an issue? 22.59.55 # * linuxstb looks towards Sweden 23.00.20 # it's not really an issue, no 23.00.52 # It would mean faster build uploads from those clients on slow(ish) uplinks, and also faster downloads for users with slow connections, regardless of bandwidth issues in general 23.01.07 # but creating the 7z files is much slower than zips... 23.01.33 # but I guess it's hardly noticable on these small amounts of data 23.01.49 # it is clearly noticable when we 7z the source tarball 23.04.45 # i think it depends on the 7z compression level 23.05.36 # * amiconn always 7zips his local builds 23.06.13 # even modest 7z compression levels are way slower than zip 23.06.24 Quit Bob_C ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 23.06.31 # unless you make it compress files independantly 23.06.45 # the spanning gives it the chance to build really huge dictionaries 23.08.08 # on my windows machine using 7zip as the compressor, the max option for zip and 7zip give 2000kb/s and 1750kb/s throughput 23.08.16 # although i don't know if the 7zip zip code is any good 23.09.11 # Is there any benefit to using zip with 7zip though? 23.09.12 # IMO 2MB/s is plenty fast on an oldish machine like I'm running 23.10.02 # since builds are so small 23.11.04 # saratoga: hm, it dpeedns on the input size though 23.11.30 # untl you reach the dictionary size, anyway 23.12.55 # Torne: I used a 2MB dictionary, larger sizes make almost no difference in compression for rockbox 23.13.47 Quit evilnick ("TTFN") 23.14.23 # actaully even a 1MB size is enough 23.14.57 # saratoga: yah, that's a long way from max compressionthen ;) 23.15.09 # in performance terms, i mean 23.15.13 # not actual compressionratio 23.15.27 # even a 32KB diction still saves over 800KB vs. zip 23.15.37 # i'm perfectly happy to believe it makes no difference for rockbox but i assure you that multiple-hundred-mb dictionaries are hundreds of times slower thaan zip :) 23.15.53 # (and need gigabytes of ram) 23.16.10 # oh yeah 23.16.14 # for large files I believe it 23.16.58 # i just meant that for our purposes if we don't care about saving the last 50KB out of the file, we can get zip like compression speeds and still have very large savings in file size 23.17.47 # right. 23.18.20 Part WalkGood 23.21.36 Quit intrados4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.21.42 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 23.21.54 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 23.22.00 Join CaptainKwel [0] (n=jason@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 23.28.39 Quit merbanan (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.35.04 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.36.36 Join evilnick [0] (n=evilnick@ool-4571af51.dyn.optonline.net) 23.37.39 Quit bmbl (Connection timed out) 23.41.09 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.42.28 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@24.201.248.178) 23.45.27 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@rockbox/developer/kkurbjun) 23.54.15 Quit evilnick ("TTFN") 23.55.22 Quit _ABC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))