--- Log for 06.10.109 Server: robinson.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 1 hour ago 00.00.27 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.00.37 Quit explore ("Lost terminal") 00.02.24 # * Utchybann guest that wrong size in 'Rockbox Info' on nano2g is related to 2048 sector size. 00.04.16 Join polobricolo_ [0] (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-6-12.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.07.38 # If anyone is interested in a port for Mini2440 they could lend a hand and cast an eye over FS#10627, would be much appreciated 00.09.08 Quit barrywardell () 00.09.17 # DerPapst: Thanks god! 00.09.39 # sorry for blaming you ;) 00.10.11 # DerPapst: That's OK... :-) 00.11.46 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 00.14.36 # Bob_C: I'm getting the board also 00.14.52 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 00.15.07 # if nobody beats me to it, I'll have a look when it arrives. but that may take some time 00.15.12 # I see it is "in stuck" 00.15.54 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87.194.34.169) 00.16.17 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 00.16.32 # Bob_C: why didn't you consider git as VCS :( 00.16.37 # Might be in the same place as my JTAG debugger 00.16.58 # kugel: because casainho insisted on using google code to host it and they don't support git 00.17.00 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.12 # yea, I suspected that 00.17.52 # is there some kind of git-hg (or hg-git)? 00.18.09 # no idea, but why not just install hg 00.18.23 # I think we considered a lot of things, but cas likes to get ahead with things 00.18.24 # since a hypothetical git-hg would almost certainly need it anyway 00.18.25 Quit dfkt (Nick collision from services.) 00.18.26 # not so keen on getting used to yet another vcs 00.18.31 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.18.49 # once you've used a couple it's not that much effort any more 00.18.57 # i need to get around to learning my twelfth soon for work 00.19.11 # I type the same commands in svn and hg ;) 00.19.20 # Most of them work 00.19.25 # Bob_C: don't count on me too much on porting rockbox to that board. It'll be certainly fun, but my goals aren't selling it 00.19.32 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 00.19.38 # I just wanna play around 00.19.43 # Selling what? 00.20.08 # well, isn't lyre still planned to get sold at some point in the future? 00.21.17 # Well whatever happens there it won't be selling Mini2440 - I see it as a DIY/experiment board 00.21.38 # I'm hoping to put one in my car 00.21.50 # well it *is* a development board :) 00.22.10 # Does what it says on the tin :D 00.22.28 # alright then 00.22.47 # that's my view too. I'm not going to use it in my car, I don't have a car :p 00.23.54 # The big problem with Lyre project is that it is a hardware project without hardware designers 00.27.04 # One of the big problems... 00.27.04 Quit wincent (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.27.29 Quit xavieran (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.28.01 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.29.04 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Fwump") 00.30.44 Join Ebert_ [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-218-33-6.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.32.43 # is it possible to use the iRiver ihp120 as a DAC via optical in? 00.32.45 Join Lynx [0] (n=Lynx@xdsl-87-79-142-210.netcologne.de) 00.33.12 Nick Lynx is now known as Guest41709 (n=Lynx@xdsl-87-79-142-210.netcologne.de) 00.34.09 # I have submitted a simple patch that fixes the wrong free/disk size in 'Rockbox Info' menu (#10656). 00.35.03 # Ebert - what exactly do you want to know/do? You can record optically and playback via analogue line-out - are you thinking of non-audio uses? 00.35.14 # Ebert_: Just let it sit in the recording screen 00.35.56 # i was just wanting to try listening through optical-in to the line out or hp out of the iRiver 00.35.57 # It will output what's being fed into s/pdif in through both s/pdif out and the analog outputs 00.36.31 # oh really, neat! thank you amiconn 00.36.33 # Note that this will only work cleanly for 44.1kHz (or 22.05 or 11.025kHz) input though. 00.36.52 # the manual is not clear about this capability 00.37.25 # s/pdif pass-through will work for other sample rates as well, but analog out will sound rough, because the DAC's sample rate will stay at 44.1kHz 00.37.45 # That means it resamples without any filtering 00.38.03 # amiconn - does that mean 11.025 and 22.05 don't go through filtering either? 00.38.12 # correct 00.38.14 # but i can adjust the output to those 3 sample rates 00.38.32 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote closed the connection) 00.39.27 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.39.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.40.15 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.42.41 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.48.44 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.48.44 Nick Guest41709 is now known as Lynx_ (n=Lynx@xdsl-87-79-142-210.netcologne.de) 00.54.42 Quit Ebert_ () 00.58.38 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.59.19 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 01.02.02 Quit liar|netbook (Remote closed the connection) 01.06.22 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 01.08.55 # New commit by 03tomers (r22974): Remove redundant code in list.c 01.11.15 Quit Lynx_ (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!") 01.13.03 # New commit by 03tomers (r22975): - Use const when possible ... 01.13.24 # anyone interested in pulling hair out over a bug I cant figure out? 01.16.18 # FS#10215 has me stumped 01.16.41 Join panni__ [0] (n=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.17.41 Quit panni_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.18.27 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.22.27 # JdGordon: not interested, no :p 01.24.00 # JdGordon: the peakmeter is updated very often, maybe it does some stop_scroll() somewhere? 01.24.54 # no, the stop_scroll() occurs in the skin display code where a hidden viewport gets disabled... which is fine.. except it should never get there 01.25.10 # or not in that test wps anyway 01.26.29 # it doesn't scroll even if the peakmeter is hidden right? 01.26.56 # it works fine if the %pm is changed to %mh 01.27.15 # and it works fine if that peakmeter drawig code is unconditionally entered in wps.c 01.27.28 # as long as data->peak_meter_enabled isnt set 01.31.24 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.31.53 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.33.04 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.34.11 Quit panni_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.34.18 # JdGordon: does it have anything to do with the fact that %pm is in the last line? 01.34.31 # i highly doublt it 01.34.33 # I see some special case code for that 01.34.58 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.34.59 Quit panni__ (No route to host) 01.35.59 Quit bekabug () 01.37.00 # JdGordon: what is the peak_meter_enabled variable and where does it come from? 01.37.24 # its a global in peakmeter.c... used to temprarily disable drawing 01.37.52 # only used in skin_display.c though so maybe can be removed 01.40.23 # * kugel the peakmeter code there looks weird to me anyway 01.40.37 Quit howell_ (Client Quit) 01.40.40 # it seems to do a lot more than just drawing 01.40.42 Part toffe82 01.41.28 # fancy maths and statistic logging... 01.41.55 # the code in skin_display I mean, not the peakmeter.c one 01.42.01 # New commit by 03tomers (r22976): Fine tuning of gui elements positioning in RTL mode 01.42.16 # I thught you wasnt interested? 01.42.22 Quit panni_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.27 Join Ebert_ [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-218-33-6.asm.bellsouth.net) 01.42.55 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.43.02 # yea, /me thought that too 01.43.32 # good call, I'm gonna close geany again and prepare for getting some sleep 01.44.27 # seems like tomers_ is a commit early, commit often guy. I like that :) 01.45.49 # * tomers_ The RTL menus feature is stable 01.46.19 # kugel: Thanks. I'm going to sleep too... 01.46.22 # yay ;) 01.46.50 # Good night! 01.47.13 # good night tomers_ 01.47.30 Join panni__ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.47.36 # kugel: The peakmeter implements a rather crude log() (it needs to for dB display) 01.48.19 # That's another thing I've been planning to change for a looong time (the log() implementation, not the fact that it needs one) 01.48.22 Quit panni__ (No buffer space available) 01.48.22 Quit panni_ (Read error: 105 (No buffer space available)) 01.48.52 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.49.07 # amiconn: you never got behind the planning phase I assume? 01.49.32 # * kugel doesn't dare to open peackmeter.c 01.49.44 # I expect much pain :p 01.50.02 # * DerPapst <-- sleep. Good night all :) 01.50.40 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 01.50.48 Quit tomers_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090216]") 01.51.09 # The "statistics" are needed for the various hold times 01.52.16 Quit safetydan () 01.52.33 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@mail1.wotif.com) 01.53.25 Part Ebert_ 01.59.13 Join Brett_Levengood [0] (n=chatzill@208.101.131.106.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 01.59.19 Nick Brett_Levengood is now known as compguy248 (n=chatzill@208.101.131.106.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 02.01.05 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 02.08.37 # Does anyone have the newest .zip build of rocbox for the nano2g? The one with audio? I tried the link in the logs but it 404'd 02.13.51 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 02.19.56 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.19.56 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 02.20.16 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.20.29 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.20.30 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.20.52 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.25.24 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.39.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.40.35 Join BlakeJohnson861 [0] (n=bjohnson@65.116.102.2) 02.41.32 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.43.55 Quit mt (Remote closed the connection) 02.45.12 Quit n17ikh () 02.46.04 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Strife89@adsl-154-3-15.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.46.39 Quit compguy248 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 02.47.44 Join CaptainKwel [0] (n=jason@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.55.36 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 02.55.54 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.59.42 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 02.59.54 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 03.00.36 Quit BlakeJohnson861 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.00.39 Quit JdGordon1 (Client Quit) 03.04.15 Quit n17ikh (Client Quit) 03.04.15 Quit safetydan () 03.04.36 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.09.12 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.10.26 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 03.20.54 Join evilnick_ [0] (n=evilnick@ool-4571af51.dyn.optonline.net) 03.26.03 # New commit by 03kkurbjun (r22977): Simulator: Fix scrollwheel targets. 03.33.20 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.35.44 Quit evilnick_home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.44.04 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@DAVIDGIANFORTE.RES.CMU.EDU) 03.50.44 Quit intrados1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.51.52 Join intrados1 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 03.54.13 Quit Stephen_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.55.41 Quit mikroflops (Remote closed the connection) 03.57.08 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 04.01.50 Join spazz [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 04.03.34 Quit mikroflops (Remote closed the connection) 04.03.36 # Hello, anybody who would be kind and help a newbie with a h140 bootloader problem? 04.07.21 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.07.42 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@84.56.164.20) 04.07.54 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@84.56.164.20) 04.09.44 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@90.231.195.226) 04.15.54 Quit mikroflops (Remote closed the connection) 04.16.46 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 04.17.16 # I need a bootloader that will work with a iriver h140(upgraded with a mk2431gah) that shows a error ata-32 when booting...anybody know where I could find one? 04.20.36 Quit mc2739 ("Leaving") 04.25.30 Quit mikroflops (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.29.03 Quit spazz ("CGI:IRC") 04.29.14 Join spazz [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 04.29.37 Quit spazz (Client Quit) 04.38.27 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@220.157.70.139) 04.38.30 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 04.38.41 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-189-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.39.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.39 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm46.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 05.16.09 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.29.09 Join spazz [0] (i=www-data@83.168.254.42) 05.32.03 Quit spazz (Client Quit) 05.43.54 Quit Strife89 ("If you hold a Unix shell to your ear, you can hear the C.") 05.44.35 Join intrados2 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 05.49.30 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.49.33 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.55.53 Join __Dragon__ [0] (n=__Dragon@fl-71-53-141-192.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 05.56.20 # <__Dragon__> i am trying to charge my ipod and i can't after updating rockbox 05.56.40 # <__Dragon__> everything i use the hold it just shuts off and restarts 06.00.35 Quit intrados1 (Success) 06.08.18 Quit daggett ("Ex-Chat") 06.12.07 Quit __Dragon__ ("Going!") 06.27.06 Quit CaptainKwel (Remote closed the connection) 06.39.15 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.39.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.40.44 Join advcomp2019__ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.48.14 Quit advcomp2019_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 06.57.19 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.58.47 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 07.00.33 Join Zarggg_ [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 07.16.11 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.16.25 Join lifeless_ [0] (n=lifeless@89.20.126.139) 07.33.49 Quit intrados2 (Remote closed the connection) 07.34.49 Join intrados2 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 07.35.45 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 07.41.50 Quit lifeless_ (Remote closed the connection) 07.42.08 Join lifeless_ [0] (n=lifeless@188.17.66.122) 07.43.33 Quit safetydan () 07.52.01 Quit advcomp2019__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.02.59 Join Topy [0] (n=Topy44@f049145205.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.04.49 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 08.22.12 Quit T44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.22.54 Join liar|netbook [0] (n=liar@213.162.66.160) 08.26.37 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host77-167-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.28.46 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.30.40 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.31.13 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.32.08 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.34.47 Quit TheSeven (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 08.38.35 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD8D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.39.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.48.23 Join Guest23293 [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 08.53.34 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.53.34 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 08.55.53 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.56.53 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-172-245.cust.bredband2.com) 08.58.45 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 09.04.52 Quit intrados2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.06.54 Join snookums [0] (n=N_Sherza@69.133.10.20) 09.10.32 # heeheheheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehehheeheheheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehehheeheheheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehehheeheheheheheheheheheheeheheheheheheheheheh 09.11.58 Quit n17ikh (No buffer space available) 09.13.49 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 09.18.28 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 09.23.38 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.31.55 Join intrados2 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 09.38.41 Join snookums_ [0] (n=N_Sherza@cpe-69-133-10-20.cinci.res.rr.com) 09.42.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.42.40 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.44.45 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=nnscript@s168c.studby.ntnu.no) 09.45.20 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 09.46.35 Quit snookums (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09.50.08 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.52.44 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 09.56.31 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.59.24 Nick DaveDave1port is now known as DaveDavenport (n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl) 10.00.51 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 10.07.32 # New commit by 03tomers (r22978): Use macro to test viewport's RTL flag 10.09.25 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 10.13.25 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.17.38 # New commit by 03tomers (r22979): Use helper function vp_puts_center() in time_menu.c 10.18.42 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.20.14 # New commit by 03tomers (r22980): Use pointer to viewport 10.26.20 Quit yosafbridge ("Coyote finally caught me") 10.28.09 Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@li14-39.members.linode.com) 10.29.27 Quit yosafbridge (Client Quit) 10.30.20 # tomers: just an idea. wouldn't it be possible to implement centering in the same way as rtl (with a flag and doing the alignment in the lcd driver)? 10.30.21 Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@li14-39.members.linode.com) 10.30.47 # kugel: centering is the same for both RTL and LTR :-) 10.31.18 # yea, the center flag would override the rtl one 10.31.54 # kugel: I actually not sure I understand what you suggest... 10.32.38 # flag the vp that text in it is centered, and make the puts_* function do the centering (no helper function) 10.32.39 # New commit by 03tomers (r22981): Use pointer to screen 10.32.52 # other places do centering too 10.34.14 # kugel: Nice idea. I think it should be like that. When I extracted that helper function I looked around to see where else it is used like that, and saw some mess all over. I decided to make that function static for now. It requires some work, and I currently concentrate on having proper RTL support all over 10.34.35 # you need to get used to that mess. it's everywhere :p 10.35.15 # As you can see, I review the code I happen to see while working... 10.38.24 Join tomers_ [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 10.39.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.41.47 Quit liar|netbook (Remote closed the connection) 10.43.01 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB9F4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.52.43 # hey guys, if i plan on putting a 120gb drive into my ipod 30gb video, would i still use the firmware version intended for the 30gb ipod? 10.52.44 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.53.13 # snookums_: yes 10.53.55 # ok thanks ;) 10.53.59 # the only difference between the 30 and 60 GB versions is the ram they try to use (the 60GB has 64megs of ram while the 30 has 32) 10.54.01 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.54.29 # mm why would they add more ram to that version? 10.54.33 Nick snookums_ is now known as snookums (n=N_Sherza@cpe-69-133-10-20.cinci.res.rr.com) 10.55.30 # maybe to hold a larger itunesdb or something, we can only speculate though 10.56.36 Quit tomers (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.56.41 # maybe battery life 10.58.27 # i was disapointed in my ipod specifically they didn't put a disk scan utility in the diagnostics 10.58.36 Quit kachna (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.59.12 # they probably added ram for more functions like the one i am missing 11.00.41 # really wanted to check the disk and make sure it didn't have bad sectors.. i had to have them replace this one twice before the warranty ran out 11.00.42 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.01.24 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.01.52 # you can't check it with a PC? 11.03.14 # for some reason i doubt that would be a reliable way of knowing unless i actually took it out of the ipod 11.03.51 # maybe i'm just being too particular 11.04.36 # snookums: if you're a programmer, perhaps you can write/port a disc check plugin for rockbox :) 11.04.44 # disk 11.05.17 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.05.23 # ahh.. started programming a long time ago but stopped before i learned anything worthwhile.. maybe i should have kept going lol 11.09.27 # kugel: did i gave you a remote for the yh925 ? 11.10.10 # unfortunately not, no 11.10.25 # are you interested in one? 11.10.35 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@85.24.142.150) 11.10.41 # does it have a display? 11.11.15 # I would be interested yes, I often mess with code that possibly breaks remotes ;) 11.11.39 Quit Res1 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 NSplit robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.11.39 Quit w1ll14m| (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit TDJACR (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit merbanan (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit ender` (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit advcomp2019 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit krazykit (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit FOAD (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit linuxstb (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit ch4os (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit tha (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit SIGSEGV2 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit intrados2 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit Zarggg_ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit davidfg4 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.39 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit KBH (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Kohlrabi (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit shodanX (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Guest23293 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit mc2739 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Llorean (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit killan (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit dionoea (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit ej0rge (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit blithe (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Torne (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit aidy (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Unhelpful (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Zambezi (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit tchan (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit shadearg (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit feisar-_ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit jvd (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit crwl (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit courtc (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.40 Quit Overand (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.11.46 # no its only an cable extension with play/pause/ffwd/rew buttons 11.11.58 # but i ve got two now 11.12.22 NHeal robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.12.22 NJoin intrados2 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 11.12.22 NJoin merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-172-245.cust.bredband2.com) 11.12.22 NJoin Guest23293 [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 11.12.22 NJoin ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.12.22 NJoin advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 11.12.22 NJoin Zarggg_ [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 11.12.22 NJoin mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 11.12.22 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@DAVIDGIANFORTE.RES.CMU.EDU) 11.12.22 NJoin BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 11.12.22 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 11.12.23 NJoin krazykit [0] (n=kkit@c-24-218-166-241.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 11.12.23 NJoin KBH [0] (i=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 11.12.23 NJoin killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-0efa70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 11.12.23 NJoin FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 11.12.23 NJoin linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.12.23 NJoin ch4os [0] (n=ch4os@gentoo/user/ch4os) 11.12.23 NJoin Res1 [0] (n=Res@user-0c6s6ir.cable.mindspring.com) 11.12.23 NJoin dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 11.12.23 NJoin ej0rge [0] (n=alhaz@alhaz.fttp.xmission.com) 11.12.23 NJoin w1ll14m| [0] (n=nobody@84-104-81-17.cable.quicknet.nl) 11.12.23 NJoin blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 11.12.23 NJoin tha [0] (i=1038@ccc2.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) 11.12.23 NJoin Torne [0] (i=torne@lowell.wolfpuppy.org.uk) 11.12.23 NJoin TDJACR [0] (n=TDJACR@Wikipedia/Thedjatclubrock) 11.12.23 NJoin SIGSEGV2 [0] (n=user@61.250.113.98) 11.12.23 Join jvd [0] (n=syscrash@poipu/developer/syscrash) 11.12.23 NJoin tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 11.12.23 NJoin Zambezi [0] (i=Zulu@80.67.9.2) 11.12.23 NJoin feisar-_ [0] (i=jljhook@irkki.fi) 11.12.23 NJoin aidy [0] (n=aidy@mail.rty.ca) 11.12.23 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 11.12.23 NJoin Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@frustrum.nosebud.de) 11.12.23 NJoin Unhelpful [0] (n=quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 11.12.23 NJoin shodanX [0] (n=shodanX@jazz.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) 11.12.23 NJoin Overand [0] (i=overand@crappy.domain.name) 11.12.23 NJoin crwl [0] (n=crwlll@a91-156-100-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 11.12.23 NJoin courtc [0] (n=court@unaffiliated/courtc) 11.12.54 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8F889.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.14.14 Quit pyro_maniac (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.15.01 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB9CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.15.37 # well, I'm interested, but not overly keen. I would take it if you don't know what to do with it :) 11.19.50 # as i said, i ve got two of it 11.19.50 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.20.09 # mmm.. if i did a low level format on my ipod hdd, would the computer no longer recognize it? 11.20.26 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.23.05 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.27.17 # like say if i wanted to low level format and then install rockbox 11.31.11 # kugel: and some other news - a forum poster took some pictures of the pcb. should we make a extra wiki for it? http://picasaweb.google.se/nichlas.eklof/YH925GS?authkey=Gv1sRgCMvTiZad-5u2SQ# 11.42.54 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 11.43.50 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.56.36 Quit Zarggg_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.04.52 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.14.35 Join liar|netbook [0] (n=liar@213142121136.public.telering.at) 12.15.48 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.22.45 # snookums, after formatting the disk, you'd have to restore the original firmware (there are a frew wiki pages about this, including IpodManualRestore) 12.24.09 # mmm 12.24.42 # snookums: if you want to do any kind of disk check on the ipod it's fine to do it from a pc over usb, it won't work any different/better than if you take the disk out 12.24.46 # well, except usb is probably slower 12.25.30 # pyro_maniac: just add them to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SamsungYH920 12.25.48 # * Torne 's todo list has "add SMART support to rockbox" somewhere :) 12.26.16 Join AleMaxx [0] (n=enforcer@f053001004.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.27.20 # hi, is there something comparable to a vsync for displays with buildin controller like ILI9320 etc? 12.27.55 # or how is it possible do display animations smoothly without flickering on these displays? 12.29.21 # oh wow.. lucky me.. since i have the 30 gb video i now have to determine my sector size for the fat32 partition 12.30.40 # thats somewhere in the MBR isnt it? 12.31.48 # snookums: only if you manual restore; itunes will do it for you :) 12.33.46 # oh ok.. manual can only be done in linux 12.35.08 # and IpodManualRestore is for mac os 12.35.19 # if you have any access to a windows machine or a mac it's *much* easier to just use itunes 12.35.38 # the manual restore instructions should work on any OS with the right tools, but it's a lot more effort than just having itunes do it 12.36.23 Quit janne_oksanen (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.37.08 # so if i did a low level format with a 3rd party software, would i be able to connect the ipod through usb and itunes would recognize it and format it in fat32 and put the firmware on it? 12.39.37 # yes 12.39.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.40.04 # you will need to boot the ipod into emergency disk mode if you've erased its disk (hold select and play) 12.40.08 # but other than that it will just work 12.40.21 # ooh very good :) 12.40.29 # itunes doesn't care what's on the disk, it detects the ipod type with some usb magic and recreates everything (partitions, filesystem, firmware) 12.40.44 # this sounds easier than flashing my router with dd-wrt 12.41.04 # the ipods are basically unbrickable for this reason 12.41.18 # emergency disk mode is in the flash so it can't be damaged by doing anything to the hard drive 12.41.36 # sweet 12.42.42 # thanks for the info.. it will be nice to play flac files finally 12.42.57 # and know how much time is left on my battery 12.44.01 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 12.44.17 Join janne_oksanen [0] (n=janne@130.234.191.99) 12.52.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.54.54 Join mt2 [0] (n=mtee@41.233.147.243) 12.59.27 # kugel: you mean, i should append them there? 12.59.35 # yea 13.26.01 Join TheSeven [0] (n=theseven@p54A0C829.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.35.28 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 13.38.17 Join uflops [0] (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 13.42.53 Join esperegu [0] (n=quassel@s559081d2.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 13.55.14 Quit mikroflops (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.56.08 # does anyone here know something about the Sound Check / itunNORM values? 14.07.57 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-065-013.nc.res.rr.com) 14.09.22 # markun: have you looked at http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/7.5/trunk/server/Slim/Utils/SoundCheck.pm ? 14.10.27 # Zagor: can you set me up with dev access on the tracker? 14.11.02 Part pyro_maniac ("Leaving.") 14.11.18 # Zagor: no, thanks 14.11.24 # mc2739: done 14.11.39 # Zagor: thanks 14.11.43 Quit davidfg4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.11.44 Quit antil33t (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.11.49 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@119.224.12.185) 14.11.58 # markun: doesn't look like it has any more than you've already found though 14.13.25 # markun: apparently the tag was reverse engineered by Manfred Schwind: http://www.mani.de/ 14.13.43 # Zagor: let me show you what the problem is 14.14.14 # maybe he knows more now. he even sells a volume adjustment program 14.15.18 # Zagor: these are some values, dumped with rockbox from some album: http://130.89.160.166/itunnorm-sort.txt 14.15.57 # I sorted it (but the first value), so I expected the 3rd value to be ordered as well 14.16.03 # or is that a wrong assumption? 14.16.26 # I don't know. I haven't looked at that tag at all. 14.16.46 # I'm just googling up some info :) 14.18.33 # the fields for the peak value give expected results, so we could at least use that (for clipping prevention) 14.23.48 # Zagor: btw, to calculate the gain factor from the first values, according to the theory, we should just do sqrt(1000/volnorm) 14.24.59 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.28.17 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 14.29.21 Join teru [0] (n=teru@59.133.112.132) 14.30.24 # Zagor: I could try emailing mani about it 14.31.02 # it's worth a shot. 14.39.14 # Zagor: these values are from a live album. since all the gain values are different that would be quite horrible to listen to.. 14.39.44 # maybe I should just forget about it and let people use a replaygain tool if they want the feature 14.40.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.40.25 # markun: only if the volume correction is done all att once. perhaps they do it gradually? 14.40.39 # yes, that could be 14.42.37 # markun: Isn't Soundcheck just the equivalent of replaygain's "track gain". So that live album would indeed be horrible... 14.43.43 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 14.47.04 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 14.48.23 # * linuxstb wonders what Rockbox does if "album gain" is selected in the options, but only track gain exists in the tags 14.48.45 # * linuxstb reads the manual and sees that track gain would be used 14.49.38 # linuxstb: that sounds undesirable 14.50.15 # That's what I was thinking... Although I always have both in my files, so I don't really care. Could be more of an issue with soundcheck though. 14.52.56 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 14.53.15 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@p54A0BEEE.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.53.27 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@p54A0BEEE.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.00.19 Join gb_master [0] (i=82c03212@gateway/web/freenode/x-vxwtccitmwzwyxpo) 15.10.59 Quit lifeless_ ("Ex-Chat") 15.12.13 Nick tomers_ is now known as tomers (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 15.16.10 # linuxstb: do you think that adding support for Soundcheck is a bad idea? 15.17.33 Join bughunter21 [0] (n=bughunte@ip4da4427e.direct-adsl.nl) 15.17.33 Quit bughunter2 (Nick collision from services.) 15.17.44 Nick bughunter21 is now known as bughunter2 (n=bughunte@ip4da4427e.direct-adsl.nl) 15.18.01 # New commit by 03teru (r22982): Complete r22917. The icon still overlapped the text slightly. 15.18.53 Join bughunter21 [0] (n=bughunte@ip4da4427e.direct-adsl.nl) 15.18.53 Quit bughunter2 (Nick collision from services.) 15.19.02 Nick bughunter21 is now known as bughunter2 (n=bughunte@ip4da4427e.direct-adsl.nl) 15.22.16 Quit liar|netbook (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.22.56 # markun: I think it would be useful for itunes users. 15.23.19 # linuxstb: but what about the lack of album gain.. 15.23.37 Join liar|netbook [0] (n=liar@213142121136.public.telering.at) 15.24.06 # or do you think that replaygain should be disabled if album gain is selected and there is only a track gain tag? 15.24.16 # markun: If such a user wants album gain, he/she can add replaygain tags... 15.24.38 # but the listening experience will be worse after we implement this feature than before 15.24.54 # Only if they enable replaygain... 15.25.04 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 15.25.11 # but they have to enable replaygain anyway to use the soundcheck value 15.25.13 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.25.31 # markun: replaygain should be disabled if album gain is selected and there is only a track gain tag. 15.25.41 # in all cases, regardless of itunes/whatever 15.25.44 # shouldn't it? 15.25.45 # Torne: I don't agree 15.26.01 # * linuxstb thinks he agrees with Torne, but doesn't feel strongly about it 15.26.08 # if I don't add albumgain it's because the tracks are not from one album 15.26.29 # but I still would like them to sound at the same volume as the rest 15.26.45 # Hmm 15.26.47 # Then shouldn't the "albumgain" tag contain the "trackgain" value? 15.26.54 # I do that for podcasts sometimes for example 15.27.08 # Yah, I would say a better fix there is to make albumgain tag contain the same value.. 15.27.09 # linuxstb: should it? 15.27.16 # markun: I'm not sure... ;) 15.27.28 # a track that's a self-contained recording without any other tracks with it.. 15.27.38 # it's a one track album, basically, no? 15.27.44 # so the album gain level is the same as the track gain level 15.27.49 # sure, but the replaygain tools don't work like that 15.27.52 # Torne: Yes, that's what I was thinking. 15.28.03 # markun: yah. that was why i said hmm 15.28.05 # if you don't specify that you want to have albumgain, they will not add it per track 15.28.06 # i assumed they didn't :) 15.28.25 # i don't have nay replaygain tags on my music at all yet 15.28.28 # linuxstb, TheSeven : I have fixed the little display bug in Rockbox Info on nano2g (#10656). 15.28.28 # not gotten around to it 15.28.31 # all of this wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for soundcheck :) 15.28.56 # markun: so basically apple just don't care about album consistency? :) 15.29.35 # Utchybann: I looked at that quickly yesterday. Could that cause an overflow with 32-bit arithmetic and large disks? (I didn't work it out...) 15.29.53 # Torne: or maybe they calculate the value from the tracks on the fly? 15.30.24 # I assume you can use a weighted average (by taking the duration into account or something) 15.31.04 # * Torne has no clue. 15.31.23 # * Torne would *guess* they provbably do what someone said above, and just change the gain level gradually between tracks 15.31.32 # so you don't really notice 15.31.37 # yes, also possible 15.31.44 # might not sound that bad even 15.32.00 # do we want that for track gain? :) 15.32.07 # the purpose of the feature as far as their docs/etc seem to say (looking in itunes) is literally just "remove need to turn volume up/down when going between tracks" 15.32.14 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 15.32.16 # linuxstb: I don't think so. I have used () for that. 15.32.19 # it makes no mention of albums that i can see 15.32.39 # New commit by 03teru (r22983): Fix position calculation of title icon. 15.32.52 # I think adding soundcheck support will cause more harm than good 15.34.07 # this is one of those things where you wish you could go back in time and tell the people who invented the id3 replaygain stuff to include some explicit marker saying "this is not part of an album", or just paste the track value into the album field also ;) 15.34.08 # unless we store the soundcheck gain separately maybe.. 15.34.42 # hooray for hindsight in data format development 15.34.46 # :) 15.35.17 # though still nothing beats the whole "let's expose portable storage devices as raw block devices, everyone will just use FAT on them anyway" 15.35.35 # linuxstb: If this could cause an overflow, it would cause one on hdd-based players for sure 15.37.03 # markun: storing it seperately ("track-only gain"?) would solve it i guess.. seems ugly though 15.37.24 # linuxstb: and that nasty "UI freeze when changing volume" problem has come back 15.37.37 # I'm not sure why though 15.38.40 # I'm not sure if it's a good idea, but what about using the FIQ for i2s? 15.38.57 # TheSeven: I get several UI freeze since last night. 15.39.52 # TheSeven: mine freezes if i press menu in the playback menu 15.40.09 # linuxstb: would be at least worth a try in order to narrow down the problem 15.40.17 # but there must be a better fix in the end... 15.41.17 # TheSeven: I have the feeling that it freeze when access disk and doing another thing. 15.42.30 # TheSeven: I have tried to run battery_bench but playback stop after about 15/20 min. 15.43.22 # TheSeven: I need to reboot. rockbox was freeze. 15.43.55 # Utchybann: accessing I2C while running I2S will fail 90% of the times 15.44.09 Join tux [0] (n=tux@host120-45-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.44.20 # hi, people, i ended a battery benchmark 15.44.28 # where i can find the log? 15.44.44 # tux: in the root dir of your DAP. 15.44.46 # TheSeven: But from what Utchybann says, using I2S and NAND access at the same time caused a freeze. 15.45.05 # maruk i haven't it... 15.45.26 # which would rather point at mutexes or thread switching, as that's the common part between I2C and NAND 15.45.32 # maruk, sossy, i got wrong 15.45.35 # sorry 15.47.05 # linuxstb: It isn't I2C, it's wmcodec 15.47.14 # New commit by 03markun (r22984): add gapless playback for Nero encoded AAC files 15.47.24 # accessing the PMU/RTC while running I2S is fine 15.47.39 # linuxstb: It is only a feeling after using it for some hours. 15.47.48 # so this time it won't be lost ints either, rather lost I2C packets for some reason 15.48.56 # Have you tried your own i2c code, rather than the Meizu one (which is what I think is in Rockbox - I can't recall changing anything about it) 15.48.59 Quit JohnTeddy (Remote closed the connection) 15.49.03 Join JohnTeddy [0] (i=unstable@glitchinthe.net) 15.49.23 # i've a fuze, and i've done a battery bench. the result can be helpful at the staff in any way? 15.49.35 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 15.50.14 # im can upload it somewhere? 15.50.27 # linuxstb: the I2C code I used in iLoader etc. is in fact copied from the meizu code, too :-) 15.51.22 Join JackWinter [0] (n=jack@vodsl-10804.vo.lu) 15.51.53 # tux: Maybe this page? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime 15.51.59 # TheSeven: I thought as much... 15.56.35 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.57.13 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-150.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.00.31 # only c200/e200 series... 16.00.56 # tux: I know. You could add the fuze there though. 16.01.00 # (it's a wiki!) 16.02.24 # ok 16.03.57 # i haven't the account, can i paste it somewhere, when a user with account can paste it for me? 16.05.21 # tux: just get an account and help out with the project :) 16.13.39 Quit intrados2 (Connection timed out) 16.16.00 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.17.32 Nick uflops is now known as mikroflops (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 16.21.37 Quit mt2 (Remote closed the connection) 16.23.44 Quit gb_master ("Page closed") 16.30.15 Quit Sajber^ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 NSplit robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.30.15 Quit liar|netbook (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit Zagor (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit daurn (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit jordan` (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit J-23 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit freqmod (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit Dhraakellian (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit Trista887 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.15 Quit YPSY (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.30.28 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 16.31.02 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.31.13 NHeal robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.31.13 NJoin Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-150.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.31.13 NJoin liar|netbook [0] (n=liar@213142121136.public.telering.at) 16.31.13 NJoin Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 16.31.13 NJoin daurn [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 16.31.13 NJoin jordan` [0] (i=gromit@78.235.252.137) 16.31.13 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 16.31.13 NJoin YPSY [0] (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 16.31.13 NJoin Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 16.31.13 NJoin freqmod [0] (i=quasselg@dhcp208-240.ed.ntnu.no) 16.31.13 NJoin Trista887 [0] (i=tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 16.35.50 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 16.37.32 Quit Grahack (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.38.32 # is this a correct 64-bit byteswap for big and little endian? betoh32(*buf >> 32) | ((uint64_t)betoh32(*buf) << 32); 16.39.03 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 16.40.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.50.23 Quit liar|netbook (Remote closed the connection) 16.54.56 # markun: How is buf defined? 16.59.44 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 17.03.07 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 17.04.03 Quit Zagor ("Don't panic") 17.04.08 Quit ender` (" I think I remember an episode of MacGyver where he overthrew a violent dictator with a rubber band, 2 bottle caps, and some") 17.05.01 Part LinusN 17.08.04 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-164-87.net.novis.pt) 17.09.56 Quit casainho (Client Quit) 17.13.18 Quit Tuplanolla (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.18 NSplit robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.13.18 Quit Galois (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.18 Quit lyngaas (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.19 NHeal robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.13.19 NJoin Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 17.13.27 NJoin Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 17.13.55 Quit toffe82 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit maruk (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit flydutch (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit hd (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit Utchybann (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit jfc (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit jds2001 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit kadoban (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit Shaid (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit tarbo (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit preglow (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit cg_ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.55 Quit gtkspert_ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.59 Join cg__ [0] (n=cromos@cable-kmi-fe71de00-186.dhcp.inet.fi) 17.14.05 NJoin Shaid [0] (i=adam@lurking.shaid.net) 17.14.05 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@124-169-3-222.dyn.iinet.net.au) 17.14.05 NJoin hd [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 17.14.06 Join preglow [0] (i=thomj@129.241.210.199) 17.14.07 NJoin Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 17.14.10 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@87.15.167.77) 17.14.10 NJoin kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 17.14.10 NJoin jfc [0] (n=john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 17.14.16 NJoin toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 17.14.18 NJoin maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 17.14.25 Quit teru ("Quit") 17.17.32 # linuxstb: buf is a pointer to a uint64_t 17.17.47 Quit Tuplanolla (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit Grahack (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit J-23 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit freqmod (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit Dhraakellian (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit Trista887 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit YPSY (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit daurn (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit jordan` (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.17.47 Quit Sajber^ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.18.00 NJoin Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 17.18.00 NJoin Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 17.18.00 NJoin Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-150.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 17.18.00 NJoin daurn [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 17.18.00 NJoin jordan` [0] (i=gromit@78.235.252.137) 17.18.00 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 17.18.00 NJoin YPSY [0] (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 17.18.00 NJoin Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 17.18.00 NJoin freqmod [0] (i=quasselg@dhcp208-240.ed.ntnu.no) 17.18.00 NJoin Trista887 [0] (i=tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 17.18.05 # it works for little endian, I was just not sure if the same code should work on big endian 17.18.56 NJoin jds2001 [0] (n=jds2001@fedora/jds2001) 17.19.09 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.21.12 Join Tuplanol1a [0] (n=jani@adsl-77-109-223-193.kymp.net) 17.22.56 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/Blue-Dude) 17.23.16 Quit J-23 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit freqmod (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit Dhraakellian (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit Trista887 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit YPSY (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit daurn (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit jordan` (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit Sajber^ (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit Tuplanolla (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.16 Quit Grahack (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.23.34 NJoin Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 17.23.34 NJoin Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-150.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 17.23.34 NJoin daurn [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 17.23.34 NJoin jordan` [0] (i=gromit@78.235.252.137) 17.23.34 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 17.23.34 NJoin YPSY [0] (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 17.23.34 NJoin Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 17.23.34 NJoin freqmod [0] (i=quasselg@dhcp208-240.ed.ntnu.no) 17.23.34 NJoin Trista887 [0] (i=tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 17.23.41 NJoin lyngaas [0] (n=staale@19.81-167-149.customer.lyse.net) 17.24.35 # Just found some dead macros in kernal.h. It's good that they're dead, because they wouldn't work anyway. Check out SYS_EVENT_CLS and SYS_EVENT_ID. 17.25.05 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.29.53 Quit esperegu (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.35.24 NJoin tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 17.38.31 Join spazz [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 17.39.46 Join Sajber^1 [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-150.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 17.44.00 Quit spazz ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.44.09 Join spazz [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 17.49.52 Quit spazz ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.51.00 Quit Blue_Dude ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 17.55.42 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 105 (No buffer space available)) 18.11.25 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 18.15.22 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.16.57 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 18.18.40 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.25.51 Quit tux () 18.28.21 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-22-180-217.access.telenet.be) 18.37.06 Quit dfkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.40.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.40.11 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.41.24 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.43.31 Quit AleMaxx ("Ex-Chat") 18.49.14 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 18.52.03 Nick Tuplanol1a is now known as Tuplanolla (n=jani@adsl-77-109-223-193.kymp.net) 18.53.44 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.54.39 # New commit by 03tomers (r22985): Updated Hebrew language - fix weekday not shown properly 18.56.15 # New commit by 03tomers (r22986): Moved RTL handling in lcd driver deeper, from puts_style_offset() to putsxyofs() 18.57.03 # New commit by 03tomers (r22987): Set time screen now supports RTL 19.04.10 # * tomers The build system missed r22986 ! 19.05.02 Quit TheSeven (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.05.35 Quit merbanan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.09.36 # tomers: Nice work ! :) 19.09.47 # Just been able to actually test 19.10.18 # Are you testing on target or on sim ? 19.11.39 # mt: Thanks! I've been testing on e200 target. Let me know if there's something left (I think I got it all) 19.12.33 Join intrados1 [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 19.13.02 # I've just tried on an e200 sim, and it seems the up/down buttons are also inverted, but that's the only comment I have, other than that it's great. :) 19.14.39 # They are indeed inverted. Since the e200 has scrollwheel, it is intuitive to swap it (I found it simply unusable otherwise). But since the sim uses buttons, it is inverted, and un-intuitive again :-( 19.15.16 # I'm not sure it needs fixing, because the fix would look like an hack. mmm.... Maybe #ifndef SIMULATOR would help 19.15.33 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.16.26 Quit intrados (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.20.23 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.20.28 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 19.23.19 # on the nano2g, if i go in the file menu while playing music, my ipod freezes . 19.24.33 # mt: Do you have some spare time for working on RTL? 19.24.42 Join liar|netbook [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 19.24.47 # I guess you don't :-( 19.25.34 # tomers: I'm just working on something right now .. give me ~15mins :) 19.27.13 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.32.47 Join esperegu [0] (n=quassel@145.116.15.244) 19.33.01 Quit Dhraakellian (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.33.12 Join Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 19.34.53 Join tux [0] (n=tux@host120-45-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.35.53 # saratoga: ping 19.38.25 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 19.38.32 # mt: pong 19.39.24 # saratoga: Does liba52's fft expect a certain precision/representation ? 19.43.25 # mt: i don't think so 19.43.45 # IIRC its all just 1.31 for trig, and the rest has no assumed precision 19.43.57 # so i think it will work with any codec precision 19.47.05 Nick polobricolo_ is now known as polobricolo (n=paul@AGrenoble-257-1-6-12.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.47.37 # mt: have you tried it with any codecs yet? 19.48.25 Join TheSeven [0] (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-164-020.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.48.49 # saratoga: No, I haven't got there yet .. I just factored it out of liba52 and trying to run it standalone. 19.49.44 # TheSeven: on the nano2g, if i go in the file menu while playing music, my ipod freezes . 19.51.14 # mt: shouldn't it just be a drop in replacement for the fft function in liba52 or is it more complicated? 19.52.03 # fyi, hardware shutoff level for the nano2g is 2.900V 19.52.21 # It should be almost that simple yes. 19.52.53 # is it possible to manually shutdown rockbox (or at least do a clean unmount) without having to wait the timeout to finish 19.53.13 # oh, rockbox has a really nice bug 19.53.24 # what ? 19.53.45 # the player will immediately power down when the battery voltage reaches 3.3V or whatever is configured as critical. no matter which direction, though :-) 19.53.57 # so if it's charging up from 2.9V, it will shut off as soon as it reaches 3.3V 19.54.02 # nice, huh? 19.54.20 # going below 3v on a lithium battery seems quite odd 19.54.29 # most can be damaged by going so low 19.56.02 Nick linuxguy4 is now known as linuxguy3 (n=timj@adsl-68-253-209-176.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 19.56.24 # saratoga, what do you think is a fair level / voltage to shut off? A lot of targets use 3.3V as far as I know. Should we increase that a bit? 19.57.11 # battery benches show that below about 3.6V, the voltage starts dropping really fast 19.58.38 # 3.3 or 3.4 should be fine for most batteries from what i've seen 19.58.48 # but i don't know if they use some special battery or something 19.59.17 # does rockbox support loading itunesdb to have the same playlist than apple os 19.59.48 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.01.07 # New commit by 03tomers (r22988): RTL: No need to swap *scrollwheel* in simulator, as it is being simulated by up/down *buttons* 20.01.47 # polobricolo: no 20.01.58 # mt: Fixed this bug. Thanks for reporting! 20.03.01 # tomers: :) .. was just looking into fixing it .. Thanks a lot ! 20.04.39 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 20.06.27 # is there a UART log program ? 20.06.35 # mt: The scrolling needs to be fixes, but I don't have time for this at the moment. Are you interested? 20.06.44 # s/fixes/fixed/ 20.07.42 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 20.07.48 # tomers, :) 20.07.57 Quit tux (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.08.21 # tomers: I may be able to look at it tonight yes. 20.08.31 # Hey shai :-) Don't use this channel for socialising. You can open a private room for that 20.08.42 # polobricolo: what do you mean with that? 20.08.42 # mt: Thanks! 20.09.03 # No problem. 20.09.16 # tomers, strict ! 20.09.40 # shai: or go to the other rockbox channel 20.10.10 # markun: Correct 20.10.20 # tomers: he's there, but you're not :) 20.10.35 # TheSeven: a program which logs all the UART transmisson in a file on the disk for rockbox 20.10.57 # markun, if only tomers would idle there :) 20.12.01 Quit TheSeven ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 20.12.53 Part shai ("Leaving") 20.13.23 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@62.237.32.210) 20.15.47 # polobricolo: there is code for a iap logger in the tracker, see fs#9951 20.22.14 Join TheSeven [0] (n=theseven@dslb-084-056-164-020.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.23.41 Quit Bob_C (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.23.51 # ok my serial driver for iap is crapt 20.24.59 # i though iap just called rx_readc regulary. 20.25.49 # in fact i need to implement UART IRQ, and then call iap_getc 20.26.19 Join pixelma_ [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.28.34 Join shen [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.31.01 Quit pixelma_ (" .") 20.35.49 Join jordan`` [0] (i=gromit@78.235.252.137) 20.35.52 Quit jordan` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.36.56 Quit intrados1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.39.55 # er... is there anyplace with a link for the sansa e200r patcher and driver for windows still working? 20.40.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.40.16 Quit shen (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 NSplit robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.40.16 Quit lyngaas (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 Quit J-23 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 Quit freqmod (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 Quit Trista887 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 Quit YPSY (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 Quit daurn (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.16 Quit Grahack (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.40.51 NHeal robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.40.51 NJoin shen [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.40.51 NJoin lyngaas [0] (n=staale@19.81-167-149.customer.lyse.net) 20.40.51 NJoin Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 20.40.51 NJoin daurn [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 20.40.51 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 20.40.51 NJoin YPSY [0] (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.40.51 NJoin freqmod [0] (i=quasselg@dhcp208-240.ed.ntnu.no) 20.40.51 NJoin Trista887 [0] (i=tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 20.42.27 Quit shen (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit J-23 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit freqmod (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit Trista887 (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit YPSY (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit daurn (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit Grahack (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.42.27 Quit lyngaas (robinson.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.43.24 NJoin freqmod [0] (i=quasselg@dhcp208-240.ed.ntnu.no) 20.43.33 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 20.43.54 # why is http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22854.0 locked ? 20.43.58 NJoin daurn [0] (i=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 20.44.01 Join Trista260 [0] (i=tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in) 20.44.09 NJoin Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 20.44.10 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.44.36 # no idea 20.44.49 Join YPSY [0] (n=ypsy@87.106.45.183) 20.46.24 # funman: It was felt that the info there could be used to defraud the manufacturer, i.e. warranty issues etc claiming that they had an unmodified player. 20.47.21 # funman: "These days the unstability should have greatly decreased."? 20.48.02 # gevaerts: is that a question ? 20.48.23 # funman: it was. In hindsight it's more of a sign of me being blind 20.48.52 # * gevaerts read "usability" instead of "unstability" 20.49.01 # ^^ 20.49.31 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 20.49.36 # stop pushing me around! 20.49.52 # funman: looks like someone deleted my message when I locked it 20.50.07 # * polobricolo about to test his the iap code on the nano2g 20.51.17 # tomers, I installed a Complete Installation. 20.51.37 # tomers, I downloaded it from here: http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/win32/rbutilqt-v1.2.3.zip 20.51.47 # shai: It's ok 20.51.51 # tomers, It detected 5th gen. 30GB iPod 20.52.33 # TheSeven: is the nano2g rtc driver specific to that player or to its pmu chip? 20.52.39 # shai: Just re-install, this time with current-build, which has newer features, such as RTL menus for Hebrew and Arabic, and USB stack enabled (you'll see for yourself) 20.53.14 # tomers, is that the same file I already downloaded or do I need to download another installation file? 20.53.29 NJoin lyngaas [0] (n=staale@19.81-167-149.customer.lyse.net) 20.53.54 # shai: Same file, the Rockbox Utility version 1.2.3 (updates are rare, about 3-4 times a year) 20.56.00 # didn't work :( 20.56.48 # Does the 5th gen. 30GB iPod has manual? Can't find it on http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml - or is it the color/Photo ? 20.56.53 # how do you do an clean unmount on rockbox ? 20.57.02 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 20.57.10 # tomers: it's the Video 20.57.31 # Ipod... 20.57.47 # pixelma: It's a bit confusing to have different terms in the website and in the rbutil... 20.58.18 # shai: Get the manual for your iPod here: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo.pdf 20.58.49 # shai: Then see General Settings -> System -> USB Keypad Mode 20.58.59 # tomers: that because the manual for both ipod videos are the same. but rbutil can also give you the correct manual for your device :-) 20.59.10 # n1s: specific to it's PMU, but we don't have a clue what's the model number of that thing 20.59.26 # New commit by 03tomers (r22989): Manual: Fixed case 20.59.50 # hey my ipod didn't even log the iap (i aplyed the iap log patch) 21.00.13 # maybe it didn't receve anything ? 21.02.56 # polobricolo: could be,maybe put some splash/logf/panicf into your recieve function, to see if you recieved anything :-) 21.03.23 # but normaly the iap_periodic function should at least be called 21.03.38 # what does logf do ? 21.03.56 # polobricolo: log to the debug ring buffer, if you enabled that properly 21.05.12 # polobricolo: compile a logf build and messages to it show up in the debug menu, otherwise it does nothing 21.05.35 # it has to be enabled in each file you want to debug 21.05.43 # well assuming you've declared ENABLE_LOGF or whatever logf.h checks for 21.08.29 # TheSeven: just wondering since other rtc drivers are in firmware/drivers/rtc 21.10.21 # yep, assuming that they will be re-used by other targets, what we are not expecting with this one 21.10.50 Quit funman ("leaving") 21.16.42 # i don't even get the splash. 21.16.42 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 21.16.50 # this is really strange 21.23.20 # is it possible to init the music database on a PC 21.23.37 Quit Rob2223 () 21.23.55 # polobricolo: There was some work on that a while back 21.24.24 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD8D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.24.41 # polobricolo: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9371 21.26.03 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 21.27.29 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 21.27.40 Quit dfkt_ (Client Quit) 21.28.14 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.28.22 Quit dfkt (Nick collision from services.) 21.28.45 Nick Guest23293 is now known as n17ikh (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 21.29.18 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.30.21 Quit ender` (" On the contrary, if you never procreate, neither will your kids.") 21.31.01 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 21.31.09 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 21.31.18 # tomers, I do have files there... 21.31.35 # tomers, I did "Create Playlist" then I clicked "View Current Playlist" but it says there is none... 21.32.06 Part toffe82 21.32.24 # tomers, r22989-091006 21.33.43 # shai: Don't forget to change font to '15-Adobe-Helvetica', then change language to Hebrew (the default font does not support Hebrew, at the moment, and nobody cares about it), then test my newly added RTL menus feature 21.33.55 # * linuxstb wonders where the win32 build of e200rpatcher went - http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200r-patcher/ 21.33.57 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.34.30 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 21.34.44 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.36.16 # tomers, I have. 21.36.36 # tomers, I now went into the playlist and I see a bunch of files with odd names... 21.36.44 # RXCE 21.36.45 # NIED 21.36.50 # ZYQQ 21.36.52 # stuff like that... 21.36.54 # as filenames 21.37.27 # That's the iTunes junk. Those are files Apple is renaming to prevent *normal* use with these files 21.37.33 # Delete them! 21.37.35 # linuxstb: I need advice with these lockups 21.37.52 # * linuxstb also wonders why a new e200rpatcher binary was created at all... 21.37.53 # tomers, where they at? I'll remove them all! 21.38.06 # as soon as i remove all the PMU I2C accesses, so that there's just the wolfson being accessed, it runs just fine 21.38.12 # tomers, also, I chose some nice themes and now with the new manual install, those are non-existant 21.38.16 # shai: Connect the DAP to your PC and delete them from there 21.38.53 # shai: I thought the themes suppose to stay there. Anyway, use the utility to re-download and install them 21.38.59 # tomers, these: \iPod_Control\Music\* ? 21.39.16 Join massivedmg [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 21.39.22 # btw, my database just fixed itself all of a sudden early today 21.40.01 Quit ender` (" Computers work fine as long as users aren't allowed anywhere near them.") 21.40.01 # I don't want to tell you to delete something that might interfere with the OF (original firmware - a Rockbox term) if you choose you dual-boot to the iPod's original firmware 21.40.25 # gevaerts: Do you know why a new e200rpatcher (minus a win32 version) was created? All that does is patch the OF bootloader in the hidden part of the flash - it doesn't contain/install an actual bootloader. 21.40.31 # tomers, understandable :) 21.41.31 # TheSeven: My only idea is that perhaps the mutex isn't working as it should. I wonder if there's something target-specific that needs implementing (although I would imagine it would be generic ARM) 21.41.32 # * TheSeven just spotted a lockup when switching tracks 21.41.52 # linuxstb: it doesn't? 21.41.54 # linuxstb: as we're singlecore, i wouldn't expect that 21.42.27 # * gevaerts wasn't aware of that 21.42.55 # saratoga: check this out : http://imagebin.ca/view/Xxyo95R.html ! 21.43.21 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.43.25 Quit massivedmg (Client Quit) 21.43.28 # gevaerts: Nope... The name is perhaps misleading. Or rather, e200rpatcher is a real patcher, the others are not... 21.43.32 Join massivedmg [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 21.44.16 Quit massivedmg (Client Quit) 21.44.35 # mt: great! what was the problem? 21.45.07 # no that's a52's :) 21.45.16 # I'll try to see where the problem is 21.45.35 # * shai is going for a smoke and listen to some music in my new iPod w/RB ! 21.45.45 # Thanks, Rockbox :) 21.46.47 Join dfkt_ [0] (n=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.46.49 # mt: the a52 one looks a little smarter anyway, maybe we should just use it and add the ffmpeg stuff for the other sizes? 21.47.08 # linuxstb: using polling I2C also fixes it. Now I'm confused. 21.47.08 # or did you want to benchmark both? 21.47.18 # I wanted to benchmark yes. 21.47.24 # ah ok 21.47.27 # thats a good idea 21.47.56 # *benchmark both - but you knew what I meant :) 21.48.03 # so it seems like both mutexes and at least one of ints and wakeups are involved 21.48.11 # this really points towards a kernel bug 21.48.33 # i suppose the ffmpeg one is better anyway since its LGPL and not GPL 21.53.50 # TheSeven: The Rockbox kernel isn't my speciality... jhMikeS would be the person to speak to, but he hasn't been around for a few months. 21.54.02 # btw, what's the difference between semaphores and mutexes? 21.57.37 # * TheSeven wonders what the LIKELY and UNLIKELY macros are 21.57.48 # the same thread can grab a mutex more than once without blocking 21.57.56 # TheSeven: gcc hints IIRC - to say which branch is more likely to be executed 21.58.07 # TheSeven: semaphores can have a count higher then 1, and what bertrik said :-) 21.59.32 # and also I think a newly created semaphore is usually "locked", while a newly created mutex is usually "unlocked" 22.03.22 # TheSeven: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4705 22.03.58 # * polobricolo just can't manage to build songdb 22.04.21 # maybe current svn is to different than the one used in the patch. 22.04.43 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.04.49 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.04.56 Quit dfkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.05.23 # polobricolo: So the patch doesn't apply cleanly? Or it applies, but does't work? 22.05.27 # polobricolo: Check out a different svn version to a different folder and then apply the patch there 22.05.47 # That way you can use the correct svn revision so it should apply cleanly 22.05.54 # linuxstb: it patches but doesn't build 22.06.25 # polobricolo: That sounds likely - these sort of "build Rockbox things outside of Rockbox" often break. 22.07.14 # * TheSeven is getting annoyed by non-working mutexes 22.08.51 # did you do mutex_init (or something like that) on them? 22.09.31 # hopefully yes 22.09.35 Join massivedmg [0] (n=tsiggins@208.247.58.95) 22.09.49 # it's done by i2c_init() but I haven't checked if that may possibly be called twice 22.09.58 # polobricolo: I think tools/database should work, no patch needed... 22.10.03 # just had the same thought... 22.10.21 # is there a solution for the ipod charging issue yet? I want to use the new HID feature but when I charge in rockbox mode the battery slowly goes dead. 22.11.24 # TheSeven, a missing wakeup/mutex_init has led to quite a few bugs already, but luckily it's easy to fix :) 22.11.50 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 22.12.01 # yes, but only because rockbox doesn't have preemptive multitasking 22.14.35 # What's current Rockbox forum policy on threads like this? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22883.0 (installing "third-party" software on an unsupported device...) 22.17.45 # * linuxstb decides to give a polite answer and lock the thread 22.17.58 # linuxstb: I'd go with "it's not RB so doesn't belong here" 22.18.08 # evilnick: I think I just did ;) 22.18.32 # meh, my rockbox doesn't boot any more 22.21.28 # I read in the manual that I can change modes while connected to USB using the menu button, but when I'm in Mouse mode, pressing the Menu button pushes the cursor up the screen.. but doesn't change the mode. 22.24.54 # saratoga: http://imagebin.ca/view/C_j8mb.html ;) 22.25.54 # i get the same errors using the tools/database "undefined reference to `betoh16'" 22.27.01 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.27.37 Quit shai ("I guess this is my cue") 22.27.46 # shai: You spotted a bug! Thanks 22.29.39 # linuxstb, bertrik: in fact it seems to have been a double init causing the trouble. I protected i2c_init by a flag now, and it's rock solid again ;-) 22.29.51 # polobricolo: I get a different error compiling tools/database - "statusbar.h" not found by settings.h 22.30.04 # polobricolo: yeah, that database tool is broken *again* 22.30.05 # (however we still have int or wakeup loss) 22.30.31 # linuxstb: well i managed to fix that by adding "-I../../apps/gui" to the Makefile 22.30.40 Join notlistening [0] (n=tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 22.30.51 # but i then get undefined errors 22.30.54 # linuxstb: i get the undefined reference to `betoh16' errors among other errors 22.31.19 # * linuxstb hates the maze of #includes and lack of modularity in Rockbox 22.31.28 # shai: I find no other solution for that but to disable mouse support for iPod, but that's highly undesirable. Can you think of a better key combination for changing modes in iPod? (Maybe disable mouse dragging, and have Select+Prev and Select+Next switch modes back and forth) 22.31.55 # linuxstb: are you fixing it or sould i take a look? 22.32.03 # polobricolo: Database files can be shared among the targets, but they are not necessarily the same 22.32.10 Quit GeekShadow (No route to host) 22.32.13 # n1s: Please fix it - I should be doing other things... 22.32.36 # ok, /me fixes 22.32.43 # The database files use the target's endianness when generated on-target, but the database engine is capable of working with opposite-endianness files 22.33.06 # This is a little slower than using the correct endianness 22.33.28 # n1s, I hope it's not my fault, I removed a couple of #includes a few weeks ago in an effort to remove unneeded ones 22.34.42 Quit Grahack ("Leaving.") 22.35.16 # bertrik: idk, but i don't blame you for not test building this tool, it should really be built by the build system to catch these errors 22.35.16 Quit notlistening (Remote closed the connection) 22.37.01 # * amiconn isn't surprised at all that those half-external tools break often 22.37.21 # btw, who is the yps-3 maintainer? 22.37.43 # TheSeven, I started that ... 22.38.01 # ok, so you're doing all the other s5l8700 ports? 22.38.23 Join ED_209 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 22.38.39 # I can't find the Charge During USB option on my 30gb ipod video. documentation says it should be in System -> battery but all I see is the capacity setting 22.38.48 # the yp-s3 is a really early port, not sure if I'll be able to finish it. Markun and gevearts started the meizu ports AFAIK 22.38.50 # Hi, how do I get the dictionary to work? 22.40.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.40.54 # it says the definitions file is missing or something, where do I get the files to make the dictionary work? 22.42.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginDict 22.42.10 # * TheSeven is about to commit that I2C fix 22.42.30 # TheSeven, what needed to be fixed about it? 22.42.39 # thanks! 22.42.50 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.42.50 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.42.55 # i2c_init() not being called or being called too often - just not the right way 22.43.00 # thus breaking those mutexes 22.43.57 # oh, so you're adding double-init protection, remembering if it had already been init-ed? 22.44.01 # i implemented an i2c_initialized flag that will stop i2c_init() from re-initing the mutex, and will force an i2c_init() if i2c_read() or i2c_write() are called without calling i2c_init() before 22.44.52 # ensuring that i2c_init() is only called once seems almost impossible 22.45.32 # I don't mind the first part, but don't like the second part so much, I'd rather fix the calls to i2c_init 22.45.58 # ok, so you'd go for rather calling it too often than missing calls? 22.46.47 # would you still keep that protection if we fix the places calling it? 22.46.50 # main.c: init() calls i2c_init() 22.46.59 # the dictionary files aren't on the site anymore 22.46.59 # I'd prefer it to be called only from apps/main.c 22.47.02 # So it should be impossible that i2c_init() doesn't get called 22.47.09 # does anyone here have a working dictionary? 22.47.24 # bertrik: what about asserting i2c_initialized in the read and write functions? 22.47.51 # this would at least save a lot of debugging weird behavior if it should actually fail to get called for one or another reason 22.47.51 # TheSeven, calling it too often but with double-init protection would be my second choice 22.48.19 # is assert() implemented in Rockbox? 22.48.24 # no 22.48.25 # so you'd go for only calling it in main.c? 22.48.38 # mcuelenaere: we can easily fake that with an if() and a panicf() 22.48.41 # TheSeven: You can take it for granted that it is being called from there 22.48.50 # TheSeven, yes I'd like to have more assert in rockbox in general, but I think this opinion is not shared with all other rockbox devs 22.48.51 # amiconn: then i 22.48.59 # It's also the only place that calls it before and during normal rockbox operation 22.49.02 # then i'm wondering what is going wrong here 22.49.08 # TheSeven: AFAIK there's a Rockbox rule that says don't code too defensive 22.49.38 # The only other place calling it is rolo.c, but that only kicks in if you're RoLo'ing a rockbox.ipod from within rockbox 22.49.47 # well, I'll actually rather spend an assert on such a thing than potentially causing really weird things 22.50.09 # saratoga: Still around ? 22.50.22 # yeah, an assert makes any such bug more visible, semi-automatic inits mostly hide it 22.51.39 # hmm, so the problem is that system.h doesn't define the various endianness macros when __PCTOOL__ is defined because that casued conflicts with SDL's own endian.h file apparently but that doesn't seem to get included for the database tool...' 22.52.29 # n1s: Perhaps it get lost in one of those #include cleanups? 22.52.33 # *got 22.52.55 # amiconn: perhaps 22.53.02 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 22.54.00 # n1s: I think that would also cause conflicts with glibc's own versions of those functions (a recent addition to glibc). ipodpatcher had the same issue. 22.54.04 # Using the host's (or SDL) endian macros makes sense imo 22.54.17 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 22.54.23 # mt: am now, whats up 22.54.55 # bertrik: adding assertions seems to magically fix the i2c issues. damn. 22.55.15 # the sim doesn't seem to include endian.h at all... 22.55.24 # saratoga : a52's fft is 28.5% faster than ffmpeg's on a million times of a 64-point transform. 22.55.39 # mt: on target or PC? 22.55.42 # PC 22.55.56 # i guess those optimizations make a big difference 22.56.37 # I guess this is mainly due to butterfly_half (PC I mean) 22.56.45 # n1s: Maybe that's handled indirectly by SDL? 22.57.08 # linuxstb: that would be my guess too 22.57.42 # TheSeven, maybe the i2c interrupt fires early, triggering a wakeup_signal on an uninitialised wakeup object? 22.58.16 # bertrik: that shouldn't hurt, at least for later i2c calls 22.58.51 # mt: do you understand the 128 point optimization they do? 22.59.01 # the lockups are still happening, but now with a like 0.1% hit rate, while it was 90% before adding the assertions 22.59.18 # mt: also this might be useful if you didn't already add the larger fft sizes: http://pastebin.com/m781a6c0 22.59.38 # though i removed the 128 point optimization for now since I didn't know how it worked and couldn't test until we had it working 22.59.56 # where are the plugins kept? I'm looking for some more games, like NES games or strategy games.. or maybe more useful tools I don't have yet 22.59.59 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@91-164-176-54.rev.libertysurf.net) 23.00.10 # basically all of them are in each build 23.00.18 # :/ 23.00.56 # mt: got to run 23.01.11 # saratoga: OK .. I'll look into that later. 23.01.18 # are there any more things in 3.4 than 3.2 23.01.52 # tomers: What can I help in ? 23.02.18 Join Stephen_ [0] (n=S@86.45.119.71) 23.03.32 # ED_209: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges 23.07.08 # thanks! 23.07.48 # I can install 3.4 over the existing one and still keep my settings right? 23.09.02 # New commit by 03nls (r22990): Once again fix building of the database tool that gets broke over and over 23.09.05 # mt: Thanks. See in the menus that scrolling does not work properly in RTL... 23.09.45 # Is this related to the up/down button inversion thing ? 23.10.08 # polobricolo: if you svn up now the database tool should build 23.12.22 Quit ED_209 ("CGI:IRC") 23.15.06 # mt: No. 23.15.15 # TheSeven: Is the FTL_READONLY #define in your FTL driver implemented fully? That would seem useful for a Rockbox bootloader... 23.15.31 # it should be, works in iLoader at least. 23.16.02 Quit mcuelenaere () 23.16.09 # and i also did that FTL_FORCEMOUNT thing which will itself force a readonly, and that did boot at least. 23.16.23 Join bekabug [0] (n=bekabug@adsl-068-209-234-142.sip.tys.bellsouth.net) 23.16.29 # mt: Look for this is http://kerneltrap.org/node/4705 23.16.37 # TheSeven: So you're sharing the same nand/ftl code in iloader and Rockbox now? 23.16.44 Quit KBH () 23.16.46 # mt: Clipboard typo.... firmware/drivers/lcd-bitmap-common.c 23.17.36 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 23.17.41 # ...and that broke checkwps of course 23.18.04 Quit daurn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.18.55 # linuxstb: basically yes, differences are mostly cosmetic 23.23.32 # btw, those panicfs in there have already caught some misbehavior before actually wasting spare blocks 23.23.38 # tomers: What I'm getting is that scrolling seems to be inverted, is that it ? 23.23.42 # (while i was reworking the lowlevel nand driver) 23.24.01 Quit bekabug (Remote closed the connection) 23.28.21 # ok, so in bmp.c the include of system.h (which causes the red) is inside #ifndef __PCTOOL__ but system.h is included by another header so it gets included in bmp.c anyway... 23.29.44 # i hate conditional inclusion, especially combined with hteaders including headers 23.30.32 Quit domonoky (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.32.06 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 23.33.15 # mt: I guess. I am going to sleep... Good luck! 23.34.09 # tomers: Alright .. Good night. 23.35.03 # mt: And thanks for helping :-) 23.35.16 # Just one commit though... 23.35.30 # No problem ! 23.35.35 # I meant one commit and then I'll go to sleep :-) 23.36.57 Quit evilnick ("Page closed") 23.40.14 # * TheSeven will give up for today 23.40.39 # I reverted all of my patches, and it still works fine, with a binary identical to the one that kept crashing all the time in the morning 23.40.51 # New commit by 03tomers (r22991): USB HID: Fix ipod4g got stuck in mouse mode ... 23.41.26 # TheSeven, maybe a pending interrupt that fires at the wrong time after all ... 23.41.35 # * tomers Don't have an ipod, so waiting for someone to test 23.41.50 # so, going through lots of files to make sure they don't include system.h in case of __PCTOOL__ seems wrong 23.42.19 # also i wonder why the database tool is now happy and checkwps is not 23.42.31 # bertrik: but why would that reproducibly crash after 1 or 2 I2C transactions in the morning, and work fine now (sometimes hanging after a minute of constant volume changing)? 23.43.30 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.43.30 # ok, no idea 23.44.56 # this bug just wants to fool me 23.46.43 Quit tomers ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090216]") 23.47.23 Quit massivedmg (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.48.13 # New commit by 03dave (r22992): Implement lcd_blit_yuv() for the 2nd gen Nano, based on the implementation for the iPod Color and 1st gen Nano. mpegplayer now works. 23.50.04 Quit esperegu (Read error: 113 (No route to host))