--- Log for 07.10.109 Server: robinson.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 1 hour ago 00.00.04 # TheSeven: If you want a break from your bug-hunting, could you try test_fps on your Nano to see if there is any difference between the LCDs? 00.02.08 # New commit by 03nls (r22993): fix checkwps breakage caused by r229900 00.02.20 # linuxstb: i haven't followed the progress at all, can the 2g stuff be applied to later gens as well? 00.03.38 # preglow: I don't think so no. I think that the encryption is different (i.e. better) and it uses a different version of the SoC 00.03.57 # meh 00.04.23 # so, the problem was that a) checkwps didn't include system.h in all places it should but instead checkwps.h and that the database tool defines SIMULATOR which checkwps does not 00.05.31 # preglow: I think the current status by the people at #linux4nano is that code is running (but not doing anything useful) on the 4th gen Nano (via the Notes buffer overflow exploit). On the 1st gen Classic (i.e. the original 80GB/160GB versions), code is running via Notes and communicating via the UART. 00.07.34 # linuxstb: do you know of any recent progress on dumping the OF on the nano4g? (i assume that's what's needed to get somewhere) 00.07.40 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.07.56 # n1s: I think they're still stuck at trying to get the UART working, so they can do just that. 00.08.22 # Or rather, the first thing that can be dumped is the boot-rom embedded in the SoC 00.08.51 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 00.09.08 # ah, and it's assumed that this SoC is not similar to the one in the 2g/meizus? 00.09.16 # i wonder if the code for the decryption is accessible at all 00.09.31 # preglow: iiuc it's done in hardware 00.10.18 # preglow: On the Nano2G, there's a hardware crypto unit (AES) with two embedded keys (one unique to the ipod, one common to all ipods). Apple encrypt the firmware partition using the "same on all ipods key", which means we can do the same. 00.11.01 # But there are signs of certificates being used to sign things on the later ipods... 00.11.05 # yeah, as expected 00.12.14 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 00.13.31 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.15.55 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 00.16.37 Join compguy248 [0] (n=chatzill@208.101.131.106.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 00.17.32 Quit markun (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.19.34 Join Strife89 [0] (n=nds@adsl-068-213-037-174.sip.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.22.43 # How can I obtain the latest available .zip build for the nano2g? I would like to test the newer one with audio/working clock. 00.23.58 # download the source and compile it is one way 00.24.38 # Thats true, guess i will have to resort to that. 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How do you specify that a loaded image is not always displayed? 08.44.23 # %x doesnt actually draw the image, you still need to use %xd i tihnk 08.45.01 # That's not what the description on CustomWPS says. 08.46.11 # something is not right..... 08.46.31 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 08.47.24 # ah, im wrong... this wps is incorrect :) 08.54.32 # shuoldnt the %xd tag be dynamic? 08.55.05 # I mean... this wps is wrong anyway, but it feels like the whole point of it is to change the image being displayed 08.55.06 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 08.55.22 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.56.32 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 08.59.52 # JdGordon: why should %xd be dynamic? its tag value doesn't change, does it? 09.00.17 # it doesnt have a value 09.00.22 # it causes other tags to change though 09.00.33 # ... na i dunno... I tihnk its just a badly done .wps 09.00.34 # how? 09.01.13 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 09.01.21 # I don't think any tag that can't be a conditional needs to be dynamic 09.01.51 # and there is a HZ*100 somewhere which causes wierdness with this wps 09.01.58 # it draws over the aa 09.02.58 # * JdGordon thinks he should start charging for skin/wps support when its not a actual code issue :D 09.09.10 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@82.216.222.222) 09.09.24 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.11.18 Join esperegu [0] (n=quassel@145.116.11.103) 09.11.44 Join KBH [0] (i=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 09.12.23 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-206-37-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.13.22 # anyone have any thoughts about FS#9710 as a stand in untill multifont? 09.17.03 # I seem to recall thinking that it's actually useful even after multifont goes in. 09.17.25 # It'd be quite nice to have actual gradient/shaded numbers that fit the theme nicely for some things, etc. 09.18.37 # You could even go further and use it to hack together something like an analogue clock or dial, too, I'd imagine? 09.19.11 # I think the argument against it was because multifont would be better (obviously), and that half-way bandaids wernt wanted 09.19.32 # not sure how youd do a clock dial like that 09.19.32 # I kinda think they address different things. 09.19.50 # I think you could do a analoge clock with the current image and conditional tags 09.19.53 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.20.04 # Yeah, but for playback progress? 09.20.40 # ? 09.20.54 # Nah, can't do it there since you can't split minutes and seconds to two separate things. 09.21.28 # if that was really wanted it could be added 09.21.30 # Anyway, I still think being able to independently skin numerals is nice. It still does things multifont cant unless we ever move past 1bpp fonts, which seems unlikely. 09.22.51 # For some of those "classic" themes like the cassette tape one, etc, I imagine it'd be nice to have numbers that can look more authentically like an old LED digital display. 09.23.06 # it would be very fun to give the tag a list of chars that are in the bmp strip to load so its more flexible than just numbers 09.23.58 # Well, *most* cases if it's static text (you know which characters are used in advance) you can just display it. 09.24.02 # I mean, as a bitmap. 09.24.58 # dinner, bbs 09.27.36 Quit gtkspert_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 09.27.41 # JdGordon: Just to clarify, can you have two or more different sets of numbers in use at once, or is it "use the normal fonts numbers, or the alternates, but that's it"? 09.29.37 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.31.21 # looking at the patch its "draw the value of this tag with the numbers from this image strip" 09.31.27 # so you can do heaps of these 09.34.04 # That's what I thought from the description 09.34.07 # Just wanted to be 100% sure. 09.34.18 # If that's the case, I think it's a nice feature. 09.39.02 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.45.30 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.46.11 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-206-114.dyn.iinet.net.au) 09.46.48 # Zagor: Hi. Can you restore the old e200rpatcher on the download server? There was no need to release a new version (it just patches some instructions in the OF, it doesn't install a bootloader), and that new release doesn't include a win32 version. I think you simply need to remove http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200r-patcher/ and then move 5.0/e200r-patcher/ back up one level 09.48.38 # ok 09.50.19 # * linuxstb wonders why that bootloader release went so wrong... 09.53.51 # linuxstb: Do we have a comprehensive release checklist yet? 09.57.35 # Zagor: Also, what about changing symlinks such as http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/6.0/ into copies of what is in the higher-level directory? That would stop the recursion, and also make it possible for someone to just give you a .zip for a new release (with nothing else to be done by you). 09.58.31 # the 6.0 symlink is oddly a link to the current directory... 10.01.01 Join razym [0] (n=razym@cpe-24-24-200-95.socal.res.rr.com) 10.01.06 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 10.01.53 # could someone help me troubleshoot my iPod 5.5g 80gb? 10.02.17 # following a new restore of the iPod, i can't boot into rockbox after installing 3.4 10.02.32 # i get the error "Error! Can't load rockbox.ipod: File not found" 10.02.42 # though booting into disk mode obviously shows a .rockbox folder 10.02.48 # and all the files that should be there 10.04.15 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 10.04.59 # razym: I don't know if we're certain why yet, but 80GB 5.5Gs specifically have had that problem occasionally 10.05.02 # It seems to be semi-random. 10.05.45 # Zagor: Yes, that's what I mean. It could just be a copy of the relevant parts of the current directory. So a new release .zip could consist of two copies of the files - one in the "root", and one in a "7.0" subdirectory. 10.06.25 Part Grahack 10.06.33 Quit razym (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.06.38 Join fanta2 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 10.07.07 # why do we even keep old revisions of the bootloader? 10.07.21 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 10.07.33 # Because some were made with old compiler versions, and can't be compiled any more? I don't know really 10.08.34 # is it possible to get a fat volume label in rockbox? 10.09.00 # fanta2: you can set the label when the disk is attached to your pc 10.09.57 # yeah, but I mean within rockbox are there any APIs which allow you to access that label? I looked around and couldn't find any, but it could just be me looking in the wrong places 10.10.19 # Zagor: I guess the most recent old revision is useful just in case we need to revert a release. But I guess there's no real reason to keep older revisions, apart from completeness. 10.10.47 # having just a single revision on the download server would be a lot less messy 10.11.53 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.11.55 # Have "x.x" subdirs doesn't seem that messy. 10.12.34 # Oh I'm silly, the volume label is a directory entry >.< 10.12.50 # linuxstb: sure, as long as everything is inside those dirs. but they aren't. 10.12.50 # nevermind 10.13.45 # What about moving things into those dirs, and having a "current" symlink? 10.13.55 # (this would break all URLs though...) 10.14.13 # linuxstb: that would be good, but as usual we're limited by rbutil 10.15.24 # perhaps the next version of rbutil should use dedicated rbutil.rockbox.org URLs that I can set up redirects for, instead of pointing directly to files. 10.15.58 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.18.47 Quit JdGordon1 ("Leaving.") 10.23.34 # Zagor: Sounds reasonable. Or maybe some other form of redirection - e.g. a cgi-bin script which can return to rbutil the URL of a file. 10.40.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.55 # holy handgrenade. rbutil has its' own httpget class. 10.45.24 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.47.04 # anyway, it looks like it deals with 302s without any extra work. so redirects would mean just changing rbutil.ini 10.49.46 # linuxstb: regarding FS#10656 and the wrong size in rockbox info. Docs say that the max size of a cluster is 32KB. 10.50.57 # linuxstb: so my patch will not overflow more than the original code. 10.52.15 # in my reading it should actually overflow less 11.01.48 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 11.09.56 # Eww @r22992 11.12.13 # amiconn: you might want to be a bit more specific :) 11.12.43 # Something wrong with the 2nd gen iPod Nano LCD driver? 11.12.47 # Porting this crappy slowish C implementation of all things 11.13.17 # amiconn: surely it is better than what was there before (nothing) ? 11.13.45 # It also reminded me that I still want to fix this stuff for the Color and Nano 11.17.37 Join petur [0] (n=peter@94-225-47-142.access.telenet.be) 11.21.21 Join aidy_ [0] (n=aidy@mail.rty.ca) 11.21.51 Quit aidy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.24.42 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 11.38.11 Quit fanta2 ("CGI:IRC") 11.43.40 Join notlistening [0] (n=tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 11.47.20 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 11.47.41 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.49.03 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r22994): SRC is for sources, not objects 12.04.29 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.08.52 Quit sbhsu ("leaving") 12.11.05 Join sbhsu [0] (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 12.19.32 # any thoughts on FS#8844? 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We don't know. 14.32.14 # patents are complicated, and vary by country 14.34.05 Quit antil33t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.34.12 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@119.224.12.185) 14.34.45 # Ok. But, is true that a player don't need to pay royalties just because they were paid for the original codecs? 14.35.42 # Ask a lawyer. We don't know. 14.36.06 # hmmm, ok. Because this is for sure something discuss before. 14.36.23 # discussed before 14.37.36 # yes but it's not specific to rockbox, you can find better places for discussing about this 14.39.10 # ok, thanks. 14.40.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.40.47 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.40.59 # casainho: I bought the board 14.43.16 Quit flydutch (Remote closed the connection) 14.43.59 # kugel: nice! Did you saw the last blog post? :: http://lyre.sourceforge.net/?q=content/mini2440-update 14.44.12 # now we are 5 developers with the same hardware :-) 14.45.03 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host77-167-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.45.14 Join evilnick [0] (i=0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.46.02 # nice 14.46.31 # casainho: two friends of mine are getting it too 14.46.45 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 14.47.10 # but don't count on us for doing real developement, we buy it to get experience for our studies and play around, not for building a open play running rockbox 14.49.42 # kugel: ok. Bob is going quickly, as now firmware runs on it. There should be no need for help to port it. 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I think the advantage of getting the database tool in the build system now outweighs being able to run "make database" (I'm actually not convinced that that would really be so wonderful), but I'm sure not everyone agrees 18.40.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.40.59 # polobricolo: no, but I thought it would be usefull a few times already 18.42.12 # notlistening: none that I'm aware of. Do you encounter issues? 18.43.37 # umm yeah someone who i helping install rockbox with has go half the content that should be on there after an install 18.43.54 # gevaerts: I think being able to build it in the build system is a good first step either way - at least it becomes more available for now. 18.43.55 # *got 18.46.06 # * gevaerts also looks at bluebrother since he's the one who raised the issue 18.46.18 # Ran a full install and some dirs are there and the majourity now seems like it installed the extras and nothing else not the main rockbox release 18.46.54 # e200V2 18.50.16 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 18.54.10 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r22997): Add some database builds. I don't think we need more than these two to detect breakage 18.54.12 # you have to select current build iirc 18.54.17 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r22998): Make the database tool buildable from configure. ... 18.56.09 # Isn't the database tool valid for all targets? 18.56.25 # it is. Do you want 30 more builds? 18.56.38 # oh, I see what you mean 18.56.43 # Yes and no :) 18.57.42 # The database format is compatible with all targets, but working with wrong-endian databases is going to be slower. 18.57.57 # Ah, okay 18.58.53 # Also, since HWCODEC targets can't handle all codecs, the database as built on the target will never include metadata from files using unsupported codecs. If you build the database tool for such targets you'll get the same restriction 18.59.54 # And finally, HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS targets have a less-complete unicode implementation, which I suspect might impact metadata parsing as well in rare cases, but I'm not sure what that means for the tool 19.01.38 # * gevaerts complains loudly 19.01.52 # Why did it break? 19.02.58 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.05.03 # gevaerts, weird, it works here 19.06.20 Quit Hillshum ("Ex-Chat") 19.07.18 # my gcc (4.3.3) is slightly older than roolku's (4.4.0), maybe that makes a difference 19.08.08 # could be 19.09.20 # * gevaerts will continue looking into this later. First dinner 19.10.00 # does rockbox do any calls to the fat driver except in the common/file.c file ? 19.14.45 # gevaerts: I agree that having the database in the build system now is better than later. I've still got my opinion about configure ;-) 19.17.13 # notlistening: sorry, went out for a while. Interesting, I haven't observed this issue but I also haven't tested e200v2. Which OS did you run it on? 19.17.56 # Windows 19.18.11 # notlistening: did you select 'current build' ? 19.20.58 # notlistening: hmm. Windows is the patform that should have the least issues, at least from my perspective. Have you saved the systrace (About / Troubleshoot / System Trace)? Might reval something. 19.22.03 # What does readwrite do ? 19.22.27 # do read or write depending on the write parameter ? 19.24.03 # it did not report any errpr btu i am helping remotely 19.24.30 # notlistening: did you select 'current build' ? 19.24.43 # you or your friend* 19.27.02 # I am not sure she is blind and it is hard for her 19.27.35 # I got her to download the current build from th website now and that now in place so all the files are there 19.28.18 # and have just tried to get her to install the voice files and getting a 404 error 19.28.52 # notlistening: does she maybe use an outdated version of Rockbox Utility? Some paths changed on the webserver not long ago. 19.29.46 # i will get her to download a fresh copy 19.30.00 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.31.47 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-142-150.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.35.52 Quit Lss (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.38.46 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.39.17 Quit AndyI () 19.39.47 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-172-245.cust.bredband2.com) 19.41.26 # * polobricolo is testing his RO build of rockbox 19.51.25 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 19.55.00 # it's not a gcc-4.4 issue. That works fine for me as well 19.56.27 # * gevaerts doesn't want to think about finding the issue blindly 19.57.05 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8FC6D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.58.25 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Strife89@168.16.237.233) 20.01.05 Quit markun (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.04.39 # Anyone around with the same sort of system as b32-roolku? 20.06.03 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-237-63.slkc.qwest.net) 20.06.13 # why is ? 20.06.14 Join selectohh [0] (n=irc@ip216-239-83-247.vif.net) 20.06.16 # which is?* 20.06.28 Quit funman ("free(random());") 20.06.41 # * polobricolo 's RO build did not work :( 20.07.09 # funman: no idea 20.07.24 # I vaguely remember roolk also runs some cygwin clients but am not sure which it was exactly 20.07.31 # roolku I mean 20.09.06 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r22999): Also build database.c using SIM settings, in an attempt to fix the red on b32-roolku 20.09.42 # now let's hope that fate directs this build to the same client 20.10.00 # fate? Is that the new name of the build server? 20.10.16 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 20.10.42 # it's one of the names used for the allocation algorithm it uses 20.11.26 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 20.12.57 # does anyone have an idea how to make a Read Only build of rockbox ? 20.13.31 # I don't think you can, apart from dummyfying the write() functions 20.15.57 # polobricolo: if you let the xxx_write_sector() function always return -1, rockbox should run just fine (with a few error messages, but nothing critical) without ever writing to the disk :-) 20.16.35 # h300db was built by b30-roolku. I guess there's a reasonable chance that it runs the same software as b32-roolku... 20.19.41 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.21.05 # why on earth does windows cmd.exe not support ANSI color codes? Gnah :( 20.21.33 Ctcp Ping from gevaerts!n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts 20.21.41 # domonoky, did you get my e-mail? 20.21.41 Quit z35 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.21.56 # notlistening: yes, i just answerd :-) 20.22.12 # Sorry ;) 20.25.08 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 20.33.11 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.38.32 Part aevin ("later guys") 20.40.05 # domonoky: your solution worked. In TheSeven's code if the FTL_READONLY was defined it returned 1 but it caused a "Updating size on empty dir entry 76" panic 20.40.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.40.53 # now it just complains "Error accesing playlist control file" but its a splahf not a panic so it works ! 20.41.01 # that one is expected 20.42.22 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 20.44.22 # does anyone know how to change the button REPEAT_START / REPEAT_INTERVAL_START for the sansa c100? i changed it in button.c but it only works on the sansa e200 and has no effect on the c100 20.45.25 # oh database doesn't work :( 20.45.34 # "database not ready" 20.45.58 # but i used the database tool on my PC 20.46.55 # New commit by 03theseven (r23000): Make iPod Nano 2G FTL return -1 on write() call, if read-only, to prevent panic. 20.47.05 # gevaerts: so I did it... 20.47.11 # well done! 20.48.19 # a trivial one-letter patch 20.48.27 Nick DaveDavenport is now known as Qball (n=qball@unaffiliated/qball) 20.48.44 # TheSeven: but it changes quite a lot at execution 20.48.58 # mmm not one bad sector on my whole ipod hdd :D 20.49.41 # selectohh: These values affect button repeat for all targets 20.53.03 Quit killan_ ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 20.55.42 # domonoky, you should be good to go now, till the next bug :D 20.56.08 # notlistening: jup, i just need more time to work on it :-) 20.56.35 # gevaerts: The metadata parsing does not differ between bitmap and charcell 20.56.55 # domonoky, what needs doing? 20.57.05 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.57.36 # Rockbox always uses utf-8 internally anyway; the only difference on charcell is that the codepage conversion supports fewer codepages 20.57.36 # amiconn: the parsing doesn't, but unicode.c knows about different charsets. That's important to get the thing to actually build, but I don't know if it makes any difference for the output 20.58.14 # notlistening: adaption to your changes, and the things i already listed in the tracker entry. maybe i find some time for it tomorrow. 20.59.39 # domonoky, does it launch the server automatically at the moment 21.00.59 # notlistening: yes. it even embedds it into the binary. (it expect it named "opensapi-server.exe" sitting in rbutil directory while you compile rbutil) 21.01.15 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@62.237.32.210) 21.02.30 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@88-123-151-129.rev.libertysurf.net) 21.03.56 # should i release it as opensapi-server.exe from now on? 21.04.23 # that's very smart :D 21.04.53 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.05.00 # as it can be easiiy used also in other programs and isnt bound to rbutil, i would say so :-) 21.05.02 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 21.05.32 Join liar|netbook [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 21.06.19 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 21.06.20 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.06.36 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.06.51 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 21.07.02 # Do you want to add it into the svn rbutil folder when it is stable? 21.08.52 # i am not sure at moment, but if we want to embedd it into rbutil i think we need a copy of it in svn for easy handling.. (maybe in rbutilqt/opensapi with a nice README from where its etc) 21.09.46 # * domonoky knows another improvement for the opensapi-server... version numbers :-) 21.10.05 # what are they :D 21.10.43 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 21.10.46 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.11.19 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.208.235) 21.14.20 Quit Horscht (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.45 # hey i'm a little confused.. am i supposed to make my own music folder in whatever directory i choose in rockbox? 21.24.32 # i'm reading this manual but i don't see if there is already a folder in there or if i just throw it wherever and build a database later 21.24.40 # snookums you can just make it wherever you want, as long as it's on the drive in general.. be sure to do "show all files" though or maybe you won't find it 21.27.43 # oh ok. 21.27.56 # i guess i'll be relying completely on tags then 21.28.41 # the only recommended place NOT to put your music is in the .rockbox folder 21.28.45 # anywhere else is fine. 21.29.07 # oh.. lol i just started to put it in a folder in the .rockbox dir 21.29.13 # amiconn: sweet thanks for your reply earlier. you is right 21.29.36 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.30.05 Quit merbanan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.30.16 Join bekabug [0] (n=bekabug@adsl-068-209-234-142.sip.tys.bellsouth.net) 21.31.16 # one more question if i may: if i wanted to have rockbox automatically start a plugin on boot, where/how would i do such a thing? i'm a bit confused as to where the main "loop" of rockbox is 21.31.47 # selectohh: that functionality already exists in the source code (but is disabled by default) 21.31.55 # selectohh: have a hunt for autorock.rock 21.32.45 # GodEater: really! thanks. i will look. you guys are awesome thank you. 21.33.21 # * GodEater is wearing a T-Shirt which says "I am awesome" 21.34.54 # * selectohh is making people uncomfortable by overthanking 21.36.58 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 21.43.03 Join Jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@p5DDC7C46.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.44.55 # i just unintentionally edited DesktopTools... i wanted to enter the site, and the login-dialog came up. i entered my name and pw, and then the site was shown. and now i see that i edited something... something with a attachement 21.45.18 # gevaerts: could you check if anything is broken? 21.46.46 # * gevaerts wonders why he has been chosen 21.48.00 # ah, I see. The same thing happened to me :) 21.48.03 # because you edited the file before and maybe you know which pictures where on it 21.48.20 # I suspect we need Zagor to find out what's going on 21.50.31 # i think i have just one more question.. in both files and database mode, inside the folders, the songs are listed but as the file names, not the tag names.. is there any way to get it to list them as the song titles in the tags instead of the file names? 21.53.55 Join compguy248 [0] (n=chatzill@208.101.131.106.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 21.54.21 # i guess this is wps specific for each template 21.54.51 # theme* 21.56.04 # but tag names aren't displayed in the files or database viewer.. only in the wps 21.57.13 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-240.nyc.res.rr.com) 21.57.41 # snookums: the filebrower will ofcourse display filenames, but the database should show content based on tags. 22.00.24 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-75-187-57-252.columbus.res.rr.com) 22.01.11 Join webguest55 [0] (i=www-data@giant.haxx.se) 22.01.45 # was wondering if someone could help me with installation on a sansa 250v2 22.03.14 # oh ok.. now i see.. i thought it was displaying song numbers because of the file names themselves, but it automatically generates that from the tags 22.03.37 # thanks for the answers :) 22.03.46 # in the database yes, not in the filebrowser 22.03.59 # more precisely can i make my e250v2 a e250r 22.04.32 # webguest55: how is that a rockbox installation question ? 22.04.48 # why isn't it possible to increase the sound volume in rockbox on the nano2G 22.05.30 # yea thats exactly how i expected it to be in the file browser.. i was expecting the database to not have numbers in front of the song titles 22.05.33 Part JohnTeddy 22.05.39 # because i want rockbox on my player 22.06.04 # webguest55: what makes you think you need to convert your e200v2 into an e250r to get rockbox on it ? 22.06.05 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.06.51 # gevaerts, or tomers: I now have a log from the USB prober on Mac OS 10.4. A first search for differences between barrywardell's log with his e200 on 10.5.8 shows only tiny differences (my c200: http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1602298 - his: http://pastebin.com/m44ebc85d ) 22.07.18 # i know that i dont but it wont read from my card 22.07.28 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.07.51 # i had a e250r and had to get it replaced and they sent me a e250v2 22.07.55 # webguest55: well, first of all, it can't be done. The hardware in those two models are completely different. 22.08.14 # welll gd 22.08.17 # ok 22.08.45 # rockbox isnt fully supported on my player 22.08.50 # gevaerts: I can mount the c200 in OF mode but it also seems to be a bit shaky (sometimes it only connects after a second try) - I even get two devices but couldn't try out the microSD slot as I only have an SDHC card with me 22.09.08 # can i downgrade to a model that is fully supported? 22.09.18 # webguest55: no 22.09.24 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87.194.34.169) 22.09.36 # webguest55: you have to go out and BUY a model that is supported. 22.09.47 # i had one 22.09.58 # untill it messed up 22.10.14 # then they sent me a brandnew one that isnt 22.10.20 # you tell the company that did the rma about it? 22.10.23 # the e200v2 code should work reasonably well if I understand things correctly 22.10.49 # ok well then maybe i didsomething wrong 22.11.12 # the instructions were confusing to me 22.12.28 # the main thing that aggravates me is that when i put my sd card in with rockbox it freezes and says *panic* 22.13.17 Quit Strife89 ("Be back.") 22.15.25 # i would call the company up and tell them you don't want that revision 22.15.38 # they will most likely replace it 22.15.58 Join mrtok1 [0] (n=dummy@p5B39CC74.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.16.13 # ok 22.16.29 # tell them its for a schizophrenic individual and everything has to be exactly the way it was before or they rip their hair out 22.17.24 # they might think you are crazy, but who is going to take chances on a story like that? lol 22.17.44 # webguest55: even with a recent (downloaded today) current build ? 22.17.46 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.237.214) 22.17.47 Quit esperegu_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.17.55 # yes 22.18.04 # what is the exact message ? 22.18.20 # and the exact revision of your build 22.19.05 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 22.19.39 # i just now downloaded the rockbox 22.20.01 # there is no "the" in rockbox ;) 22.20.10 # i know that 22.20.32 # interesting that you typed it then 22.20.39 Quit Jaykay ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 22.20.40 # you can see the exact version in system -> rockbox infos 22.20.47 # TheSeven, linuxstb: Great work on the nano2g port so far! 22.21.01 # webguest55: if there are still bugs with microSD in current builds, your report might help 22.21.26 Nick Qball is now known as UserFriendly (n=qball@unaffiliated/qball) 22.21.34 # and if god exists, the e200v2 port will be stable before nano2g ! 22.21.47 # * GodEater will go buy a nano2g then 22.21.54 # :'( 22.22.11 # well hang on now i cant get it to loaf rockbox it says file not found 22.24.36 # i think im losing it 22.25.12 # version r23000-091007 22.25.26 # * bluebroth3r goes looking for a nano2g 22.25.29 # it wont read my 4gb card 22.25.54 # *panic* microsd init failed 22.26.02 # : -3 22.26.08 # thanks 22.26.15 # bluebroth3r: Audio playback, most plugins, and controls work, but the audio playback is still really buggy. 22.26.20 # does it happen when you boot with the microsd inserted? or when you boot and then insert it ? 22.26.32 # For example, if you play a track, then go to select another track from the file browser, the nano freezes. 22.26.54 # boot then insert it 22.27.05 # webguest55: would you try a custom build to see if that makes any difference ? 22.27.15 Quit selectohh ("sweet!") 22.27.22 # ya i would 22.27.50 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.208.235) 22.28.48 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.50 # webguest55: can you give me your mail so i can send it to you ? 22.29.08 # nossracer@yahoo.com 22.29.14 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8FC6D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.29.18 # not here though... 22.29.33 # I wanted to say... this channel is logged 22.29.36 # pixelma: freenode require registration for sending private messages 22.30.01 # funman: yes but spambots are free to crawl our logs :) 22.30.06 Join gb_master [0] (i=82c03212@gateway/web/freenode/x-apxwekrrpybigted) 22.30.06 # funman: you can allow PM from unregisterd users 22.30.17 # pixelma: ah didn't know that 22.30.20 # or obfuscate the ady 22.30.22 # it's a freenode setting 22.30.24 # addy 22.31.52 Join Bob_C_ [0] (n=chatzill@host86-141-199-226.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) 22.32.18 # webguest55: sent 22.32.51 # yes and recieved does it matter that it is a .sansa 22.33.35 # well now it reads it 22.33.41 Nick Unhelpful_ is now known as Unhelpful (n=quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 22.33.50 # W00t 22.34.05 # cool 22.35.00 # New commit by 03funman (r23001): Sansa AMS SD: relax requirement for APP_CMD response, some uSD cards seem to not set correctly the response bits 22.35.53 # wont play from sd though 22.36.10 # which sd card is it ? (exact model and class) 22.38.02 # it is a sandisk 4gb microsd hc 22.38.12 # which class ? 22.38.24 # ? 22.38.27 # could someone take a look at FS#10661 for me? 22.38.41 # one minute i cant get it to load now 22.38.44 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.39.30 # how do i get the class 22.39.43 # froggyman: there is no patch ? :-) 22.40.29 # * Strife89 wonders who still holds interest in FS#8806. 22.40.34 # domonoky: whoops, forgot to upload, its probaly important isnt it? 22.40.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.40.51 # webguest55: there's usually a number printed in a circle somewhere on the card. That's the class. 22.41.03 # Strife89: I do, but I prefer it as a codec. 22.41.10 # ahhhh yes its a 2 22.41.42 # LambdaCalculus37: It's gotten better as a codec, but there's still the hitch with .IT files at the moment. 22.41.47 # funman how do i get ur rockbox to load? 22.42.14 # webguest55: i explained it in the email : unzip rockbox.sansa to the .rockbox/ folder on your player 22.42.34 # domonoky: there you go 22.42.37 # ok 22.43.08 # yes its there 22.43.43 # hi, someone here who can help me with debugging setup - first time on gdb embedded (remote?) 22.43.55 # when i try to play a song from my card when it does read it it wont play and says that codec failure 22.45.23 # mrtok1: which target are you using ? 22.45.32 # New commit by 03tomers (r23002): HID: Remove mouse drag in iPod's keymap, in another attempt to resolve issue from r22991 (ipod4g got stuck in mouse mode) 22.45.40 # webguest55: try copying the song from the card to the player 22.46.21 # it still wont play 22.46.56 # what kind of file is it ? 22.47.20 # .mp3 22.47.38 # webguest55: just download again the current build, it will have all the codecs and the fix I just committed after you tested it 22.47.50 # Strife89: I haven't got any .IT files to test on it at the moment. 22.47.54 Quit Bob_C (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.01 # k brb 22.48.10 Quit cobrajs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.12 # But most of my .MOD, .S3M, and .XM files work fine. 22.48.17 # LambdaCalculus37: You do if you look at the last comment on the FlySpray page. ;) 22.48.26 Join cobrajs [0] (n=cobrajs@c-71-62-137-241.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 22.48.53 # funman: ipod-nano-1g 22.49.06 # mrtok1: i don't think you can use gdb together with rockbox on nano-1g 22.49.14 # LambdaCalculus37: Most (not quite all) of my .MODs, .S3Ms, and .XMs work just fine. Some won't play at all, and some EAT the CPU. 22.49.31 # funman: ok - what else can be done to debug ? 22.49.36 # Usually, though, they're the heavy ones. 22.49.44 # you can use rockbox' panicf() / logf() 22.51.08 # Strife89: not sure if it the very last version of the patch I tested but for me all MODs fail that are a bit too big for the codec buffer or so (and one that's failing in SVN too though) 22.51.23 # funman: mmmmh - no way? jtag ? 22.51.26 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 22.51.27 # can't software usb targets (such as the nano (1G)) do logf-over-usb, or have i dreamt that? 22.51.34 # ahhh yes 22.51.37 # mrtok1: you can use jtag but you don't need rockbox support there 22.51.38 # now it plays 22.51.46 # from the card 22.51.56 # n1s: logf over usb should be possible with usb serial driver 22.52.00 # webguest55: nice! 22.52.06 # funman: that APP_CMD you tweaked was what was hanging up voltage scaling in the card init, for me at least. No time now but I'll investigate tonight to see how things lie... 22.52.09 # mrtok1: what bug are you chasing that makes you need jtag? 22.52.32 # yes very thank you very much for your time and help 22.52.32 # webguest55: if you see other bugs we don't knwo about please tell. we know the LCD display can sometimes be corrupted, and that USB & recording do not work in rockbox 22.52.53 # FlynDice: oh ok, did you try to remove the check for the response bits ? 22.53.00 # n1s: code is a kind of custom eq 22.53.05 # funman: do we have such a driver for the pp players? 22.53.24 # n1s: usb serial works at the same level than mass storage and HID so it should work 22.53.28 # mrtok1: apps code can usually be debugged in the simulator with gdb 22.53.34 # ok if i come across something i will let u know 22.53.42 # funman:No, never got that far and moved on to other stuff... 22.53.44 # funman: ah, good to know :) 22.53.58 # n1s: perhaps with appropriate headers tweaking however ;) 22.54.04 Quit funman ("free(random());") 22.54.04 Quit gb_master ("Page closed") 22.54.56 # could someone please take a look at FS#10661 22.56.04 # Strife89: Some eat the CPU? Do they put a little hot sauce on it first? ;) 22.56.29 # thankyou for ur help funman 22.56.31 Quit webguest55 ("CGI:IRC") 22.56.34 # funman, n1s: thanks - give simulator a try.... 22.56.38 # LambdaCalculus37: No, but they do make my battery level appear to drop to almost 0%. :) 22.56.56 # LambdaCalculus37: Left to play for more than a couple of minutes, at least. 22.57.26 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 22.58.27 # froggyman: from a quick glance that patch seems to do a lot more than adding some levels 22.59.03 # Strife89: Which player is this on? 22.59.14 # n1s: well, I just added the levels, and did the svn diff 22.59.23 # LambdaCalculus37: The iPod. 22.59.44 # LambdaCalculus37: But I remember the CPU issue happening on the Sansa as well. 23.00.12 # froggyman: so the unrelated code changes appeard by themselves? 23.00.27 # LambdaCalculus37: And the .IT issue, actually. 23.01.07 # n1s: ohh, and it adds a couple comments on the syntax of the arrays used for levels 23.01.38 # n1s: off course... 23.01.48 # * froggyman has no idea why that is 23.02.19 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 23.02.19 Quit mrtok1 () 23.02.24 # LambdaCalculus37: The CPU problem only occurs with large, quite complicated tracker files; it's basically the MIDI player all over again. Virtually all my .MODs play without issue, but a few S3Ms get skipped entirely, and the occassional .XM stutters badly. 23.02.41 Ctcp Ping from gevaerts!n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts 23.03.30 # froggyman: maybe you diffed from an older version or have other patches applied? 23.05.39 # n1s: no, its a clean respiratory, at r23003 23.06.00 # errm r23002 23.08.17 # then *you* have made those changes! anyway it's concidered best to not include unrelated changes such as style and whitespace i a patch for somethign else, and also mention what the patch does, "This patch adds an additional 11 levels" does tell me what the additions to the levels struct are but not what all the changes to the code are meant to acomplish 23.08.35 # hey is there a way to dual boot firmwares and have your choice as to whether rockbox or apple starts up? 23.09.03 # snookums: Turn the iPod on, then quickly turn on the Hold switch. 23.09.15 # snookums: Oh, wait. Misread the question. 23.09.32 # i just discovered that my car cable isn't compatible with this 23.10.25 # oh wait.. your answer works 23.10.38 # if it will start up in apple's firmware thats all i need 23.11.15 # snookums: If you plug a turned-off iPod in while the Hold switch is already on, that will also work. 23.11.44 # sweet thanks 23.14.56 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g229083243.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.16.41 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87.194.34.169) 23.18.28 # n1s: hmm... I really dont know what those other changes did, or how they got there. I updated FS#10661 to get rid of the irrelevant code changes so it updates only the levels and 2 other places in the code to allow for those levels 23.19.19 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.23.06 # froggyman: looks much better, bedtime for me though, if noone has commited it tomorrow night, i'll do it then, just remid me ;) 23.23.35 # Strife89: My beast has no issues playing S3M or XM. :) 23.23.58 # n1s: ok thanks 23.24.54 # LambdaCalculus37: Your Beast must have one, then. ;) 23.24.59 Join ED_209 [0] (n=chatzill@60-242-38-227.static.tpgi.com.au) 23.25.32 # are there many/any worthwhile patches or plugins that aren't included in 3.4 ? 23.26.15 # ED_209: That partially depends on what you're most interested in. 23.26.34 # I'm looking for a way to have a type of voice modulator that uses the mic and outputs to either the line out or the headphones out 23.26.36 # ED_209: Sounds like a duh statement, but think about it. 23.26.47 # Well, it totally depends on what you're interested in, and what player you have, I'd say. 23.27.19 # iriver h300 23.28.56 # I want a kind of voice scrambler/modulator that can route into my phone for "scary" phonecalls to mess with friends 23.30.54 # the iriver has a mic and a line out, I was wondering if there's anything out there that can mimic the hardware voice changers you can get 23.31.34 Quit Strife89 ("TTFN.") 23.32.56 # I have a hardware voice changer except it doesn't work with my cell because there's no way to isolate the mic, since it's under the keypad, but if the iriver could do that in realtime I could just make a cable to plug into my phone 23.33.33 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.34.10 # someone want to check out FS#10661 23.35.26 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 23.36.27 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 23.36.51 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 23.38.19 # so I'm guessing there isn't one 23.38.41 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.38.43 # ED_209: I dont think so 23.39.29 # I opened this voice changer up and it's got a palsy amount of components in it, how hard would it be to translate that into something the iriver could use? 23.40.10 # can you code? 23.40.39 # yes 23.41.09 # that wasn't my answer :/ 23.43.32 # is there a realtime pitch bender or something? 23.44.32 # I don't think so 23.44.34 # ED_209: there is a realtime pitch adjuster 23.44.43 # ah yes, that 23.45.15 # flyspray has heaps of unfinished or impossible things, I would have thought a NES emulator wasn't that hard with a coldfire processor, but that seems to have been abandoned a year or more ago 23.46.27 # ED_209: you will find that a lot with flysprays... although some of those will still patch and compile for rockbox 23.46.35 # and the rockboy thing never worked properly. I noticed that the iriver is constantly overclocking the processor by a certain percentage depending on what kind of file it's playing... why are there no game platform emulators that work? 23.46.56 # like surely an atari 2600 would have been done by now? 23.47.07 # ED_209: its probably not because its too hard, but that there is no one interested in it at moment.. 23.47.36 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87.194.34.169) 23.47.51 # there must be a certain 'community' for the h300 though, because it does so many things that modern players still don't 23.48.17 # rockboy works pretty good on irivers for some games. and we are not overclocking the h300.... 23.48.28 # line in, line out, headphones out, mic in, radio, fairly decent processor, colour screen, etc 23.48.35 # ED_209: and also keep in mind that this a *volunteer* project, people code stuff for it because they *want* to, its all done on there own free time. If no coders/developers are interested in a feature like a emulator no work is going to be done on it 23.49.11 # I would have thought emulators would be one of the most requested things 23.49.17 # ED_209: if you want such things, then start by helping out.. if all people just complain, nothing gets done. 23.49.58 # I wouldn't be here asking if I could do something about it, since I don't know how to code in anything but basic. 23.50.04 Quit Hillshum ("Ex-Chat") 23.50.12 # ED_209: its not about requests, its all about what the people coding it are interested in. 23.50.45 Quit JdGordon1 ("Leaving.") 23.51.20 # I realise that now, but I was initially just asking if something was out there floating around that wasn't put into the official release 23.51.29 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 23.51.31 # ED_209: rockbox was designed for the playing of music, things like games and viewers are just extras 23.51.47 # kickass extras! 23.52.58 # probably half the reason I use rockbox instead of the reasonably decent h300 firmware 23.56.13 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.57.39 Nick froggyman is now known as froggtroll (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.57.43 Part froggtroll 23.58.19 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.58.32 Quit liar|netbook (Remote closed the connection)