--- Log for 27.10.109 Server: kubrick.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 2 hours ago 00.00.24 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 00.01.29 Quit ender` (" In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.") 00.02.30 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=nnscript@s168c.studby.ntnu.no) 00.03.17 Quit crashd (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.03.20 Join crashd [0] (i=foobar@lostnode.org) 00.04.42 # yay! 00.05.00 # the s5l8720 seems to indeed have the same usb controller as the s5l8701... 00.05.33 Quit JackWinter (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.06.35 Join JackWinter [0] (n=jack@vodsl-10804.vo.lu) 00.08.28 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 00.11.15 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.13.17 # * bertrik should work on the s5l8700 usb controller 00.13.27 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@87.106.45.183) 00.16.17 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-232-83.slkc.qwest.net) 00.17.03 # TheSeven: I'm here now... 00.17.46 # linuxstb: if you don't need your nano for the next 1.5 days, you may do a battery bench for me 00.18.08 Join _0x90u[Work|AFK] [0] (n=00x90u@26-139.232.popsite.net) 00.18.17 # TheSeven: Sure. What Rockbox should I run? 00.19.17 Join evilnick_ [0] (n=evilnick@cpe-98-14-194-126.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.19.30 Nick _0x90u[Work|AFK] is now known as _0x90u (n=00x90u@26-139.232.popsite.net) 00.19.48 Join saratoga [0] (i=98039f25@gateway/web/freenode/x-puoattiyeelwedho) 00.20.16 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.20.18 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.22.49 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.23.50 # does that imply 36 hours battery .. ? 00.25.06 # * stripwax tries out a putsxyof benchmark 00.26.37 # stripwax: ~33h with my benchmark I did during the last days, and there was still a bug that might have reduced the run time 00.27.03 # and of course my battery is 3 years old, heavily used and of course it was regularly mistreated (deep discharges etc.) 00.28.48 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.29.02 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@c-68-62-19-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.29.04 # that's incredible, what's OF on those things 00.29.17 # * linuxstb starts a battery_bench on his nano2g 00.30.07 # stripwax: apple claims to do 24h, and somebody reported 28h on a brand new battery 00.30.25 # TheSeven: you tested with MP3? 00.30.25 # is the 33h bench doing audio decode or just 33h uptime on idle? 00.30.32 # audio decode 00.30.38 # saratoga: yes 00.30.38 # fan-blinking-tastic 00.30.52 # TheSeven: run time is likely much greater with VOrbis, WMA or FLAC then 00.31.00 # MP3 will be fairly power hungry on your target 00.31.06 # * linuxstb is running an mp3 benchmark 00.31.14 # is it single core? 00.31.17 # we still haven't come up with a good solution for mp3 being slow on arm 00.31.20 Part toffe82 00.31.28 # we just side stepped it on PP by using both cores 00.31.40 # stripwax: Yes, a 192MHz single core ARM 00.32.26 # 191.6928MHz to be exact :-) 00.32.44 # * linuxstb bows head in shame at that error 00.32.56 # :) for sure this time? btw isn't that an odd clock rate .. ? 00.33.10 # odd as in, tricky to drive 44.1khz 00.33.25 # most targets don't actually run at X.0MHz since their crystal oscillators don't run at exactly an integer number of MHz 00.33.46 # our crystal is 1843200 Hz 00.33.52 # so 115200 x 16 :-) 00.34.02 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.34.21 # and we have lots of quite flexible plls and dividers, which are doing 44.1kHz just fine 00.34.30 # fair enough 00.34.54 # IIRC you can do 44.1 kHz exactly 00.35.23 # yes, in theory it's exact 00.35.46 # my measurements claim there's a 0.1% error, but that's probably rather a measuring error :-) 00.37.20 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.37.39 Join mt_ [0] (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 00.39.48 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-232-83.slkc.qwest.net) 00.40.55 Join JdGordon2 [0] (n=jonno@m540e36d0.tmodns.net) 00.42.52 Quit esperegu (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.44.39 Quit mt (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.48.57 Quit bertrik (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 00.54.17 # is ci.curpos supposed to be always increasing during playback? 00.56.26 # basically i'm wondering if test_codec is ok with it being circular so that it wraps around when it hits the end of the memory buffer 00.57.09 # isnt curpos the position in the track? 00.57.54 # * TheSeven will go to sleep now 00.58.35 # JdGordon2: yes 00.59.00 # but if test codec uses a circular buffer at some point it would wrap around to zero 01.02.06 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 01.02.13 # Using the font from cabbiev2 on ipod video - appx 13-14 thousand characters printed to screen per second @ 80MHz, 5000 chars per second @ 30MHz. Not including LCD update. Printing with COLORBAR style seems apx 16% faster than STYLE_DEFAULT oddly (STYLE_DEFAULT seems slowest) 01.02.57 # * gevaerts can help with that 01.02.59 # oops 01.03.38 # linuxstb: still awake? 01.10.36 # so assuming you can get lcd_update fullscreen at 100fps at 30MHz, then at 10fps you could update 4500 chars to the lcd (assuming 10fps updates takes 10% of the time). these results seem much better than you would get scrolling in list view on ipod video.. is the overhead perhaps elsewhere? 01.12.49 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCFE3F.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.12.58 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.15.55 # gah, ok it's 37fps at 30MHz lcd updates. so 10fps updates would take about 25% of the time, => 3700 chars per sec. So about 370 chars per frame. 01.16.07 # (@10fps) 01.17.58 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.18.49 # Is UI also sluggish on ipod photo & color ? notice that those have similarly lowish lcd frame rate 01.23.00 Quit Lss (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.23.20 Quit liar (Remote closed the connection) 01.24.41 Quit JdGordon2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.46 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 01.28.03 Quit GeekShado_ ("The cake is a lie !") 01.35.28 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-220-102-158.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.37.46 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.39.08 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-3-221-38.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 01.42.57 Join evilnick__ [0] (n=evilnick@cpe-98-14-194-126.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.44.20 Quit evilnick_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.46.40 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.50.37 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD9545810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.52.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.53.43 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 01.54.40 Quit midijunkie (Client Quit) 01.54.43 Quit Hillshum (Remote closed the connection) 01.54.47 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD9545810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.55.33 Join evilnick_ [0] (n=evilnick@cpe-98-14-194-126.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.55.40 Quit midijunkie (Client Quit) 01.56.00 Quit evilnick__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.56.06 Quit evilnick_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.56.16 Join evilnick_ [0] (n=evilnick@cpe-98-14-194-126.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.56.28 Join midijunkie [0] (n=midijunk@pD9545810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.56.44 Part midijunkie ("I'm a happy Miranda IM user! Get it here: http://miranda-im.org") 01.56.48 Join reydarz [0] (n=44f8e959@giant.haxx.se) 02.01.38 Quit n17ikh () 02.04.14 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 02.06.39 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/Blue-Dude) 02.07.34 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 02.07.36 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.07.56 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.08.32 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.08.33 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.08.51 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.10.59 # I've been seeing an issue with the keypresses in the WPS screen taking several seconds to take effect when playing a song in a large playlist. This has only seemed to be an issue in the last few weeks. 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I was trying to get an e280, got a clip used and was wondering if Rockbox worked with it before i decided what to do. 03.23.10 Quit evilnick__ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03.25.51 Quit evilnic__ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03.29.19 Join lvkro [0] (n=Json@pool-72-83-176-108.washdc.east.verizon.net) 03.29.44 # Hi! Is it possible to update the database in rockbox? I cannot find the option to do so 03.30.06 Quit evilnick_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.31.24 Quit _0x90u () 03.33.09 # I just found it :) 03.33.26 Quit evilni___ ("Leaving") 03.36.40 Part lvkro 03.39.03 Quit Strife89 ("My number of files is OVER 9000!") 03.47.55 Join gregorovius [0] (n=diego@190.55.80.21) 03.49.24 # Hi... i have a 5.5g ipod, i'm wondering if it's possible to use the scroll wheel to control freedoom; since using only the buttons is not really enough 03.49.32 Join newbie3356 [0] (n=a6eadfc1@giant.haxx.se) 03.50.05 # not being able to walk backwards is annoying 03.50.20 # hello anyone alive in here that can help with a couple questions 03.51.50 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 03.52.10 # newbie3356: ask away - maybe somebody will have an answer - if you don't ask, surely nobody will 03.52.43 Join newbie3456 [0] (n=a6eadfc1@giant.haxx.se) 03.52.43 Quit newbie3356 (Client Quit) 03.52.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.53.36 # gregorovius: I believe the doom plugin has the option to set keys - have you tried that? 03.54.18 # ok so I got a Impecca MP-1825 ipod nano 4th gen look alike and the firmware sucks.. I am looking to flash it with something else.. but I don't see it listed on the website 03.54.52 Quit dmehler ("ircII EPIC4-2.4 -- Are we there yet?") 03.55.29 # newbie3456: an ipod look alike is not an ipod - and Rockbox does not support the ipod nano 4g anyway 03.55.39 # mc2739, yes I have, it doesn't seem to be an option, I was hoping to find a dev or someone who knows if it can be done 03.55.59 Join reydarz [0] (n=44f8e4ec@giant.haxx.se) 03.57.01 # gregorovius: you can always download the source and change the keymaps in the plugin 03.57.59 # mc2739, to elaborate, the doom plugin does have a menu option to change the keymaps, but the scrollwheel isn't an option 03.58.02 # I understand it but I was just wondering if there was a way to find out what chip or what I should look for... my wife bought this crap off ebay instead of waiting for me to look into mp3 players 04.00.38 # newbie3456: It is not a model I am familiar with. Even if the "chip" is the same as one in a supported device, there would still need to be a lot of effort to port Rockbox to it. 04.00.48 # newbie3456: look here for info: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 04.01.25 # I have done assembler programming back in the day on 8086 and hacked lots of firmware...just started looking for info a few mins ago 04.02.15 # * JdGordon grons at the snr of the dev ml.... i cant find the post im looking for :( 04.03.16 # gregorovius: there is a patch on the tracker called "Doom Scollwheel Patch" - I do not know if it works or will even apply cleanly 04.04.43 # kugel: ok. how about we start again with that patch? besides the API change whats the issues? 04.05.08 # my point is that statusbar is a very bad name for what it actually is... (thats a side issue though) 04.05.23 # thanks... not sure this garbage mp3 player is worth programming for...just to make china more money... 04.05.26 # viewport.c should be either returning the UI viewport, or the entire display 04.05.45 # the current inbuil statusbar handinlg code is bad and needs to be removed 04.06.29 # viewport.c should just be in charge of fixing the viewports, imo the "statusbar" enable-ing should be a seperate area 04.06.36 # we can change everything if you want (and if we talk about it); but I don't like that you're mixing things that you think that need to be fixed with the plin objection of the patch to convert the classic statusbar with a skinned one 04.07.32 # surely I'm not against doing this, but reviewing is hard, if you review a patch that you generally agree with but that has quite numerious unrelated changes that you don't quite agree with 04.07.55 # and the viewportmanager was your idea 04.08.12 # I always said viewportmanager was a temp (poor) solution 04.08.32 # I'm trying to find my email which actually explains my idea from months ago :( 04.08.47 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 04.08.58 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-166-004.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.09.41 # thanks mc2739, I see there's some work on it, but it doesn't seem to be ready for primetime 04.10.12 # * JdGordon finds the post and cringes :p 04.11.07 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.17.32 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 04.19.08 Quit cool_walking_ (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 NSplit kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.19.08 Quit saratoga (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 Quit pcc1 (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 Quit kugel (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 Quit T44 (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 Quit FOAD (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 Quit ThomasAH (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.19.08 Quit JdGordon 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can always make a theme work with a specific sbs that's that the question 04.21.30 # the sbs knows where it wants to draw... right? 04.21.47 # the ui viewport always overrides the%Vi, period. I don't the anything that needs to be sorted out 04.22.12 # answer the question.... the sbs knows where it wants to draw.. yes or no? 04.22.17 Quit reydarz ("CGI:IRC") 04.22.21 Join reydarz [0] (n=44f8e4ec@giant.haxx.se) 04.22.33 # yes it does, since viewports are required 04.22.43 # as does the wps... yes? 04.23.11 # depends, the default vp is ambigous 04.23.19 # ^!!!! 04.23.27 # the list always draws where its told right? 04.24.12 # ... yes.... 04.24.30 # so how on earth does it make sense for the setting which is used for the list to control where it gets displayed? 04.25.05 # the only reason I can tihnk of is to have a border to fit a background image... in which case the themer should just modify the sbs 04.25.32 # again, I don't want a sbs tied to a single theme 04.25.51 # its not 04.27.45 # if the sbs controls the ui vp then it will fit into any theme with minimal effort.... if the setting controls the ui vp then the sbs very likely wont work because the list will draw over it 04.31.20 Quit adiroiban1 (Connection timed out) 04.36.33 # ok, I assume that silence means acceptance... good.. so we can move to the ambiguity of the default vp in the wps.... my thinking is.... no tag: use the ui vp, %we is also the ui vp forced (which could mean the equivilant of todays tiny bar), %wd is obviously full display 04.40.10 Quit gregorovius ("Leaving") 04.42.59 Quit reydarz ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.44.16 Join ReneThePox [0] (i=c90d5f96@gateway/web/freenode/x-apclxopqyanvlpbh) 04.44.30 Part ReneThePox 04.44.34 Quit Bob_C (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.58.40 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.58.45 Quit Blue_Dude ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 04.58.59 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.59.11 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.00.30 # JdGordon: the slience wasn't accaptence, I was just afk. 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Get it here: http://miranda-im.org") 11.23.26 Join adiroiban [0] (n=adiroiba@h194-54-129-79.teleson.ro) 11.26.50 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.39.05 Join distant_voice [0] (n=chatzill@f048123033.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.46.33 # I just got my Sansa Fuze. Now I'm trying to install Rockbox on it. RockboxUtility doesn't autodetect my player (which is in MSC mode), but I can select it's mount point myself. I am in Ubuntu Linux. Now it asks me to select the original firmware but it doesn't recognize it. what should I do? 11.48.07 # would it help to just feed it an older firmware file? and would that mess up my fuze. I've already installed the newest firmware on it. 11.50.47 # The released rbutil doesn't support the fuze 11.50.57 # Use the manual install method described in the manual 11.51.07 # Or rather 11.51.15 # It doesn't support the newest firmwre 11.51.20 # (I think) ;) 11.51.30 # * AlexP summons funman to correct him :) 11.51.39 # would it help to just feed it an older firmware file? 11.51.42 # yes 11.52.15 # and that won't do any harm even though it's not the version that's currently installed? 11.52.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.53.01 # that will revert the installed firmware to the older version 11.53.18 # oh, well I don't mind that 11.53.27 # thanks a lot, I'll try that now 11.54.25 # funman: Can you use the newest firmware for a manual install 11.54.28 # ? 11.54.42 # if you build mkamsboot yourself yes, else no 11.55.03 # it's working :) 11.55.15 # funman: OK 11.55.49 # rockboxutility will support the latest firmware eventually right? 11.55.55 # yes 11.56.07 # The next release will do 11.56.40 # distant_voice: what is the message from rockbox utility when you select the newest firmware ? is it explicit enough ? 11.56.42 # can I reupgrade once rockbox is installed? or will that mess up my rockbox installation? 11.57.39 # yes, it says it doesn't know the selected firmware and that I should try an older version. It suggests a version for the e200 (or something like that) though 11.58.46 # If you re-upgrade the OF it'lll uninstall the Rockbox bootloader 11.58.47 # if you install the latest OF again it will replace rockbox 11.59.08 # only the bootloader :) 11.59.13 # ok, thanks :) 11.59.30 # distant_voice: You are on linux right? 11.59.35 # yes 11.59.41 # Ubuntu 9.10 12.00.07 # distant_voice: So if you wanted you could build SVN mkamsboot which knows how to use the new OF 12.00.19 # you can also build rbutil 12.00.23 # yep 12.00.34 # If you really want the newest OF :) 12.01.07 # meh, I'm not motivated enough to do that, I can wait for the next version of Rbutil 12.01.24 # I'm not even sure what I gain from using the latest OF 12.01.47 # no idea :) 12.02.32 # do I have to download and convert album art manually to make it work with the fuze or how does that work? 12.03.52 # www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 12.05.13 # thanks, Songbird will probably help me getting this to work 12.19.51 # New commit by 03funman (r23366): Replace amsinfo by another version which: ... 12.31.54 Quit bubsy ("Party time, EXCELLENT! *wring wring wring!* Party on, Wayne! Party on, Garth!") 12.34.16 Join bubsy [0] (n=bubsy@94.139.72.137) 12.42.26 Quit funman ("free(random());") 12.47.59 Join Rand_Althor [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-139-148-237.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 12.49.15 # When my batteries are too low to start my DAP, I have to connect to the computer in order to power-on. Is there a way to force booting to RB when power-on is caused by connecting to the computer? 12.50.23 Quit niekie (Remote closed the connection) 12.50.50 # Which player? 12.51.02 # e200v1 12.51.52 # you mean it goes into the OF when you power on by connecting the USB cable? 12.52.00 # yes 12.52.09 # Your bootloader is old then 12.52.20 # It used to do that because USB wasn't enabled in Rockbox 12.52.25 # RB or Sansa? 12.52.30 # which bootloader 12.52.30 # the rockbox bootloader. 12.52.56 # install the latest bootloader with rbutil and it should boot rockbox when powered on via USB 12.53.30 # you don't normally need to update the bootloader but this is one case :) 12.53.48 # will do. Thank you. 12.55.22 # can I use RButil on a e200R? 12.56.02 # nevermind 12.56.28 # I'll build it. 12.56.44 # i don't know about the e200r. 12.57.00 # Won't work. 12.57.08 # i can build the BL though. 12.57.47 # Rand_Althor: linux or windows? 12.57.57 # Ubuntu in VMware 12.58.18 # that OK? 12.58.39 # yes. see: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200RInstallationFromLinux 12.59.10 # and the latest bootloader is here: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200R/pp5022.mi4 12.59.53 # I've built and installed the bootloader on this DAP before, but I have to still do that patching? 13.00.38 # not the patching, just use it for reference 13.00.57 # thank you. 13.02.45 # Rand_Althor: just copy that bootloader to the root of your e200r and reboot the OF. 13.03.16 # oh thanks. So no recovery/manufacturing mode stuff? 13.04.45 # no, since you have already patched it. The OF will do a firmware upgrade and reboot. You should then have the v6.0 Rockbox bootloader. 13.05.04 # attempting... 13.10.04 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=Lynx@xdsl-78-34-222-215.netcologne.de) 13.11.55 Quit antil33t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.12.01 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@119.224.12.185) 13.16.38 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.16.56 # New bootloader working. However when I power-on by connecting to computer I cannot transfer files. I looked at the manual, and REC button changes mode, but no modes seem to allow file transfer...? 13.18.43 # That is for the HID mode - it allows you to use your dap to control the PC and should not interfere with file transfers. 13.20.41 # I disconnected and reconnected from the computer. It starts in "Multimedia Mode", and Windows (XP SP3) does not detect a new drive. 13.21.39 # it always has file transfers 13.21.45 # the HID mode is irrelevant 13.22.33 # Rand_Althor: is your vmware running? 13.23.03 # Yes. But no VM is "powered-on". 13.23.54 # If the e200 is already powered-on when I connect to the computer XP sees it, but not if I power-on by connecting to computer. 13.25.15 # I didn't do anything with an "OF.mi4" in the "system" folder on my DAP. Is that only required once? 13.25.46 # vmware is closed now BTW. 13.26.00 # that is required for booting to the OF with the left button 13.26.34 # Rand_Althor: what is you Rockbox version? 13.26.50 # one sec... 13.27.35 # r23022 13.27.55 # I can boot OF with "left" key. 13.27.55 # ok 13.29.07 Join kerwood [0] (n=Marshall@c-76-21-166-25.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 13.30.46 # I am not sure what is happenning here. When I boot my e200r with the cable, I see the sandisk logo, the Rockbox v6.0 bootloader, and the the Rockbox firmware logo (r23359), and then the USB logo, then windows autoplay. 13.31.29 # installing latest RB from the site... 13.31.44 # how do I make this text italic? 13.33.05 # The problem is that vmware only connects usb devices to the VM when it's told to, no? 13.33.36 # oh wait, i misread 13.33.39 # i'm only running XP now. 13.33.39 # nvm 13.33.55 # what's your rockbox start screen set to? 13.34.09 # there's a bug where certain settings stop early usb from working 13.34.38 # resume playback 13.34.48 # that is the problem then 13.35.17 # change your startup screen back to msin msenu and try again 13.35.28 # is trying 13.35.28 # s/msin/main/ 13.36.48 # * Torne thought resume playback worked, but maybe not 13.36.51 # main menu worked. Thank you. Any other settings known to interfere? 13.36.56 # No, it's just that one 13.36.58 # Torne: good catch 13.37.52 # Thank god, I may never have to see the OF on this guy again. Thanks a lot guys. 13.37.54 # i try :) 13.41.02 Part pondlife 13.42.16 Quit Rand_Althor ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 13.43.56 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133112132.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 13.44.21 Quit esperegu (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.52.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.11.32 Quit distant_voice ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20091020102323]") 14.14.59 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.15.11 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.18.06 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-065-013.nc.res.rr.com) 14.18.57 # New commit by 03teru (r23367): FS#10722: some improvements for gui/list.c ... 14.24.20 # heh, what about rockbox on ipt2g? 14.25.07 # we'll need to implement that soc anyways (for the 4g), so an itouch port may actually be quite doable 14.27.26 Part JackWinter ("Konversation terminated!") 14.32.47 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 14.45.56 Join esperegu [0] (n=quassel@145.116.15.244) 14.47.18 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 14.47.32 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.52.07 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@dslb-188-097-071-103.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.07.55 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 15.08.04 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 15.10.20 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.24.04 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 15.31.38 Quit teru ("Quit") 15.40.10 # my rockbox presentation suddenly has 29 slides 15.40.17 Quit esperegu (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.41.54 Join esperegu [0] (n=quassel@145.116.15.244) 15.41.55 Join kyle6513 [0] (n=kyle6513@58.174.128.189) 15.42.36 Quit kyle6513 (Client Quit) 15.47.41 Join Rand_Althor [0] (n=chatzill@99.162.228.130) 15.47.58 Join kyle6513 [0] (n=kyle6513@58.174.128.189) 15.48.38 # I can't start a recording. Press button - nothing happens. (plenty of room on partition) 15.53.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.55.12 # I updated my firmware earlier today (because my old one didn't boot to RB on USB-caused power-on). All I did was copy the ppXXX.mi4 file to the root of my e200R. I also notice that when I disconnect after reinstalling RB, that the "ROLO"? screen doesn't prompt me for a restart. 15.56.14 # I tried setting my "recording dir" to internal and external. No go...? 15.58.15 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.239.253) 15.58.59 # Rand_Althor: the ROLO will only happen if the Rockbox firmware file has changed 15.59.21 # ok. Any idea why recording won't work? 16.00.48 # Remember to move your clocks back this weekend. 16.02.22 # Rand_Althor: does it work if you select Recording from the main menu? 16.02.47 # no 16.03.10 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 16.03.51 Quit kyle6513 ("Leaving") 16.03.55 # Wait - sorry. I guess the start button got changed to the REC button. 16.04.55 # mc2739: 16.05.21 # I see that now - press rec then play to start recording 16.06.10 # mine starts recording as soon as I press the REC button (while in the WRS) 16.06.20 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 16.08.12 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@87.106.45.183) 16.09.18 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB86EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.10.05 # TheSeven: you talked about the ipt2g. can you run code on that? 16.10.22 # Rand_Althor: actually, I think it was changed to a long press of the rec button. Then in the recording scren press rec again to start saveing to a file 16.10.35 # i don't have one, and i have never tried, but we know the iphone guys can :-) 16.11.28 # and hardware is similar to the 4g or only soc? 16.12.04 # we don't know much about either one of them, but i would say it' likely that the rest (besides the display and tochscreen of course) is similar 16.13.36 # mc2739: I typed confusingly. I meant what you said. 16.15.17 # Rand_Althor: it may have always been a long press, I don't ever do recording, so I'm not sure 16.16.08 # maybe. My problem was with how start the recording once in the WRS. 16.19.28 # hmmm I add somebody to the wave addressbook but doesn't show up in the google contacts list O_o 16.19.40 # woops 16.19.51 # Have a good day. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.29.34 Join mattispuzzled [0] (n=48487696@giant.haxx.se) 17.29.58 # Hi. is there anybody who can help me with e200 tool?? It would be much appreciated :) 17.32.31 Quit shadearg ("goodbye.") 17.33.05 # mattispuzzled: what sort of help do you need? 17.34.09 Join midijunkie [0] (n=midijunk@pD9546F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.35.43 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@c-d73471d5.012-155-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.36.15 Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.") 17.36.48 # I assume this is the same matt: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?p=410451 17.37.41 # yes lol 17.38.05 # I think if I can just find out what is I might just be able to fix my mp3 player 17.38.16 # and it is *required* so what is it? address?? 17.38.35 # have you read this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick 17.38.45 # yup 17.38.51 # that is where I found out about the tool 17.39.20 # but the e200tool page does not explain step by step how to do e/a function 17.39.50 Quit sbhsu (Remote closed the connection) 17.40.02 Join sbhsu [0] (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 17.40.09 # where did you see the i2cwrite part then? 17.41.00 # ChanServ: when I say ./e200tool 17.41.05 # it gives a list of allc commands 17.41.26 # i don't think you really want to write to the i2c bus, but rather probably to the device's disk 17.41.37 # i2cwrite write to an i2c device 17.41.51 # and which i2c device do you expect to write to? 17.41.52 # Um actually I am almost sure my i2c is corrupt 17.42.02 # Hrm... maybe that is what is? 17.42.08 # That is what I'm trying to find out 17.42.11 # i2c is a bus 17.42.13 # I was hoping some of you would know 17.42.21 # like PCI or IDE 17.42.21 # oh... 17.42.35 # so what should I put in for ? 17.42.39 Part LinusN 17.42.43 # maybe you should just follow the directions in th wiki 17.42.49 # anyway it boots right into manuf. mode with a blue ring automaticly 17.43.00 # that is a symptom of a bad i2c rom 17.43.09 # it's not 17.43.28 # it's a symptom of a bad bootloader 17.43.48 # there are also other reasons for it to boot into that mode 17.44.14 # if you don't have any idea what you're doing you should reconsider your plan to invent a new way to fix your player, and first try the ones that people who do know what they're doing have written 17.44.27 Join mt__ [0] (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 17.45.10 # :o 17.45.21 # you think I don't know what I'm doing eh? 17.45.27 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 17.45.27 # Sounds like you don't even know 17.45.34 # well you did just try to dump a rom file onto your i2c bus 17.45.46 # you most probably just need ./e200tool recover pribootLoader.rom 17.45.54 # ok 17.45.58 # I am about to try that 17.46.00 # which is what the wiki told you to do 17.46.03 # if I can get it to recognize 17.46.58 # argh... it says it is busy 17.47.09 # Searching for device 0b70:0003 ... found! Failed to claim the interface (-16, Device or resource busy) 17.47.42 # you are running this with root privileges, right? 17.47.53 # yep sudo 17.48.07 # if I don't do sudo it says not permitted or something 17.48.12 Quit mt_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.48.18 # "not permitted or something" 17.48.20 # wow 17.48.23 # what an error 17.48.47 # *Searching for device 0b70:0003 ... found! Failed to claim the interface (-16, Device or resource busy) 17.48.59 # ***Failed to claim the interface (-1, Operation not permitted) 17.49.06 # ^that is without sudo 17.49.08 # "Failed to claim the interface" is a host-side error. That means some other driver on your system is trying to access this 17.49.18 # udev / HAL ? 17.49.20 # How do I fix that? :) 17.49.32 # * gevaerts wonders if the libgphoto bug is advanced enough to cause this 17.49.37 # Try stopping hal 17.49.45 # sudo kill hal ? 17.49.56 # oh god 17.50.15 # . . . 17.50.33 # no, using the official way for your distribution 17.50.45 # I have openSUSE 11.0 17.51.12 # 17.51.20 # * 17.51.59 # we can't help you with your distro - we're not a linux support channel 17.52.06 # if you don't know how to shut it down gracefully 17.52.10 # you'll need to find someone who does 17.52.49 # though for the record "sudo kill " is almost never the graceful way 17.53.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.53.20 # oh lol 17.53.25 # is it under processes? 17.53.54 # * gevaerts has never used opensuse 17.54.12 # I have, but not for about 9 versions 17.54.16 # so I have no clue either 17.54.35 # :-( 17.54.37 # so I repeat "we can't help you with your distro" 17.54.51 # ookay 17.55.29 # try #SUSE or #openSUSE 17.56.10 # irc? 17.56.19 # yes 17.56.39 # there's hundreds of people in there, I just looked. 17.56.47 # alright 17.56.48 # thx 17.57.17 # what network? 17.57.29 Join phanboy_iv [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 17.57.31 # this one 17.58.05 # * GodEater is off home 17.58.07 # ok 18.03.28 Quit mattispuzzled ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.04.02 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-0efa70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.04.02 Quit killan_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.05.50 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.05.52 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 18.06.31 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 18.08.25 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8EFC2.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.08.58 Join matthew [0] (n=48487696@giant.haxx.se) 18.09.03 # hi 18.09.08 # i'm back [mattispuzled] 18.09.17 # they told me to use rchal stop as root 18.09.26 Nick matthew is now known as Guest89785 (n=48487696@giant.haxx.se) 18.09.26 # i am logged in asroot, and it shut down HAL DAEMON 18.09.36 # argh it keeps changing me to "guest#### 18.09.38 # " 18.09.48 # annyway it still says failed to claim device 18.10.52 # Is there anyone here that compiles rbutil on Windows using the latest Qt SDK (2009.04)? 18.10.53 # ideas??? 18.12.06 # yes! it's recognizing it! 18.12.10 # I did a bootloader restore 18.12.11 # no luck 18.13.03 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.13.11 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.13.21 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.13.25 Quit bertrik (Client Quit) 18.17.18 # (none):~/Desktop # sudo ./e200tool i2cprogram c240-i2c.bin e200tool v0.2.3-alpha (c) by MrH 2006, 2007 Programming i2c rom (address=87) range 0x0000-0x2000 from 'c240-i2c.bin' Searching for device 6666:e200 ... found! Uploading at 0x2000 Uploading done! Programming, please wait... Programming failed (-32, Broken pipe) *DANGER*, player might not be bootable now! Please retry! 18.19.17 # did you retry? 18.19.27 Join mc2739_ [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 18.21.06 Quit mc2739 (Nick collision from services.) 18.22.09 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 18.23.23 Nick bertrik_ is now known as bertrik (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.27.20 # Guest89785: why did you try the i2cprogram again? 18.30.19 # too stubborn to use a suggestion from someone with experience? 18.34.58 # gevaerts, bluebrother, mc2739 and anyone else who is interested: I've posted a revised patch at "FS#10728 - Cowon D2: Add support for D2 in rbutil". I would like your opinion. I think it is ready for commit. 18.35.04 Join Bob_C_ [0] (n=chatzill@host86-144-201-0.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 18.36.25 # I noticed a couple of functions in apps/gui/list.c that are completely enclosed in #ifdef LCD_BITMAP. Can't we just move them to apps/gui/bitmap/list.c? 18.37.07 # (I tried that some time ago and it looked a lot cleaner, getting rid of some nasty redefinitions with extern for example) 18.37.58 # oh, I no longer see the externs 18.38.01 # yes i retried 18.38.16 # what do you want me to try? 18.38.27 # I have to leave for ct in 1/2 hr 18.38.40 # gotta get ready sooner than that, what's ur suggestion :) 18.39.11 # * gevaerts 's first suggestion is to follow the guidelines and use real words 18.39.19 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.39.30 # Ok so I just did the recover bootrom 18.39.43 # (none):~/Desktop # ./e200tool recover loader.rom 18.40.05 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.40.26 # loader.rom? 18.40.31 # i renamed it 18.40.37 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.40.41 # i like renaming large files if i have to type them in terminal ^_^ 18.40.45 # but it does no good 18.40.52 # my thing has a bad i2c rom! 18.40.52 Join GeekShado_ [0] (n=Antoine@123.176.204-77.rev.gaoland.net) 18.40.57 # you mean you got no MSC device? 18.41.23 # nope 18.41.30 # in windows it says 'portal media player' 18.41.34 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.41.42 Quit tomers ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090216]") 18.41.43 # that is also what rockbox says it says when it got bad i2c 18.41.57 # either rockbox or somewhere else 18.42.13 # it says that whenever it has no bootloader, whatever the reason 18.43.23 # ohh i see 18.43.32 # this boots mt player 18.43.39 # my* 18.43.52 # then it is supposed to boot into recovery 18.43.54 # :-( 18.43.57 # but it doesn't 18.44.05 Join twaugh [0] (n=twaugh@cyberelk.plus.com) 18.44.27 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 18.44.56 # did you hold the record button? 18.44.59 # but e200tool says that it's working? 18.46.07 # yes 18.46.13 # OK i'm 100% sure now 18.46.21 # it says "Execution started" 18.46.21 # Hi, new to Rockbox, just tried installing on an iPod Nano (2nd gen), but I can't seem to get it to play anything. Most basic problem is that the file browser doesn't descend into directories for me, just redisplays the root directory -- any ideas? 18.46.29 # That is when it's supposed to boot 18.46.45 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 18.46.46 # Yes 18.46.51 # Hold your down button 18.47.09 # then it says "display files" or something and it is pry on "supported" 18.47.15 # you have to switch it to "all" 18.47.39 # either that or go into settings and find it if holding down button don't work [hold down works for sansa e200[ :) 18.47.51 # so yea bertrik and gevaerts 18.48.18 # any ideas? my i2c is curropt otherwise it would boot my player :-S and when I try to program it it says broken pipe!! 18.48.40 # Guest89785: well, I wouldn't be surprised if the i2c rom is corrupted *now*... 18.48.49 # Guest89785: it's set to "all" (was Up button to get that) -- still happens though. :( 18.49.13 # Hrm...... 18.49.28 # are the folders "hidden"? 18.49.35 # when you look at it on your computer 18.49.41 # No, just normal folders 18.50.00 # No funny characters, no '.'s 18.50.01 # =s 18.50.17 # :sigh: Idk. that was my only guess [hold down button] 18.50.19 # restart maybe ;) 18.50.49 # Guest89785: please dont give advice on subjects you dont know about... 18.50.55 # Guest89785: Yeah, I've been playing with it for a while, and I've tried that plenty ;-) 18.51.04 # twaugh: what do you use to try to go inot a folder? 18.51.11 # did you put any music on it after installing rockbox twaugh ? 18.51.20 # or are you expecting the stuff itunes put on it before? 18.51.24 # I clicked 'Select' 18.52.00 # does the .rockbox folder appear?? 18.52.04 # Yes 18.52.10 # but nothing else?? 18.52.34 # twaugh: neither select nor >> works? 18.52.50 # [You could try making a music folder .rockbox/music/* and put your files there heh heh] ;) ;) 18.52.51 # topik: well, I had tried putting music on earlier; since then I used iTunes (as normal with normal f/w), and wanted to navigate to where those files are 18.52.51 # :P 18.52.54 # twaugh: I'd suggest checking the filesystem, using the OF 18.53.03 # the .rockbox dir is normally hidden 18.53.07 # don't put any music inthat 18.53.14 # topik: no, I'm leaving that alone 18.53.20 # topik: no it's not normally hidden 18.53.26 # it shows up on my rockbox 18.53.27 # gevaerts: OF? 18.53.36 # twaugh: original firmware 18.53.36 # the music itunes put on it is deep in inside the ipod_control directory 18.53.44 # Guest89785: yes it is....the preceeding dot means it is a hidden folder 18.53.55 # Sorry but it shows up for me 18.53.57 # Guest89785: once again, please avoid giving incorrect advice to others... 18.53.57 # LOL 18.54.07 # because you have changed your show settings 18.54.26 # nevermind 18.54.31 # i gues youdon't want my advice anyway 18.54.54 Nick mt__ is now known as mt (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 18.54.56 # :SIGh: and my sansa c240 is still broken :( 18.55.10 # audios 18.55.12 Quit Guest89785 ("CGI:IRC") 18.57.51 Join Stephen_ [0] (n=S@86-40-191-208-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 18.58.58 Quit Bob_C (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.59.32 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.06.38 # scorche|sh: hmm, don't see an option for that in the original firmware 19.07.20 # you can do it from your pc's operating system 19.08.57 # twaugh: option for what? 19.09.22 # scorche|sh: sorry, was meant for gevaerts 19.10.17 # twaugh: I mean, run the check while in the OF, since the rockbox flash implementation may still have bugs (we hope not, but...). 19.10.17 Join Tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 19.12.17 # meh, i'd better go read the nano 2g manual. i can't figure out how to leave the jpg viewer 19.13.00 # good stuff, those manuals! 19.13.54 # Another question: if I've uninstalled the rockbox firmware but the 'hold' button makes the device reset, is that a broken nano? :-( 19.13.55 # topik: as usual: center+menu briefly 19.14.29 # if rockbox isn't running, it can't influence what the hold switch does 19.15.06 # yea, TheSeven, i just had never viewed a jpg in rockbox before :) 19.15.29 # topik: this works for most plugins 19.15.51 # the nervousness of the scrolling the menus on the nano 2g has much improved 19.17.11 Quit twaugh ("Leaving.") 19.17.41 # i still need to sharpen my thumb a bit though. my chubby paws still manage to touch multiple contact points at once a lot 19.20.23 # Tomers: I don't think that patch is ready for commit. It contains still too much unrelated stuff. 19.20.36 # which definitely should go separate. 19.20.49 # bluebrother: Like what? 19.21.57 # see my comment. That mkboot_common stuff. 19.23.44 Join paul356 [0] (n=74e33abb@giant.haxx.se) 19.23.51 # for example, filesize() is also used in sansapatcher and bin2c which aren't changed. 19.25.34 Quit paul356 (Client Quit) 19.26.12 # besides, I don't see a need to hurry with D2 support in rbutil. That internal vs. SD issue makes it kinda unusable anyway. 19.26.45 # lots of people still seem to be using it 19.26.52 # something similar to the issue we need to solve for beast support. 19.27.07 # gevaerts: I was referring to rbutil support, not the port itself :) 19.28.18 # which means, for D2 support we need a way to distinguish between install and bootloader mountpoint, while for the beast we need something similar as there is no mountpoint for bootloader installation 19.28.35 Join xavieran_ [0] (n=xavieran@ppp118-209-209-209.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 19.28.39 # hm, yes 19.28.55 # I'd rather add D2 support with completely leaving out bootloader installation instead. 19.29.15 # I've considered doing that for the beast for a start. 19.29.15 # bluebrother: About copyright, I took ownership on the header file, since I named all the function, and kept all others. I don't care about it much - whatever is right.... 19.29.44 # Tomers: as I wrote, I don't know if there's a policy how to handle that. But 2009 seems a bit ... off :) 19.30.13 # cowon/bootloader-d2.bin or cowond/d2/bootloader.bin ? I prefer the latter 19.31.43 # bluebrother: completely leaving out bootloader installation means that people have to run the tool by hand. How about just ignoring the issue and placing the patched firmware near .rockbox, and showing a message saying that it still has to be moved? 19.32.06 # the ipods use bootloader-.bin, the beast bootloader.bin. 19.32.09 Quit scorche|sh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.24 # maybe going around and get people to agree on one way would be a good idea :) 19.33.15 # gevaerts: yes, running it by hand is something you need to do for the beast too. Showing a message ... well, of course we could do this. I'm not sure if I like it though. 19.33.51 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-lhijtsrpcrrgujgd) 19.35.24 Join scorche|sh [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.37.16 Join JackWinter [0] (n=jack@vodsl-10804.vo.lu) 19.37.29 # kugel: where were we? 19.37.50 # if the sbs controls the ui vp then it will fit into any theme with minimal effort.... if the setting controls the ui vp then the sbs very likely wont work because the list will draw over it 19.39.25 # the sbs controls the ui viewport. it's just that setting the ui viewport explicetely overrides that 19.39.33 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87.194.34.169) 19.39.53 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 19.40.20 # my logical argument is that it doesnt make sense for the setting to override sbs 19.40.42 # it does 19.40.51 # explain... 19.41.06 # the theme for my fuze has a ui viewport that's even smaller than what the sbs would allow 19.41.07 Quit xavieran (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.41.37 # which means the sbs with get draw over by the list? 19.41.44 # no 19.42.26 # in contrary, the list doesn't use all space that it could get 19.43.04 # sure, ok.. thats one example where it would work 19.43.28 # but in general.. the list doesnt care where its drawn.. the sbs *knows* where it wants to draw.. therefore the sbs shuold have priority 19.43.43 # for your example you would have to manually edit the sbs which imo isnt a big deal for this 19.44.49 # whereas when you try using a sbs with a theme which has a larger ui vp than the sbs, you have to fiddle with the *whole* sbs to make it work 19.44.50 # sbs can be done absolutely generic (independant of backdrops for example), which I wanted to achieve. nevertheless my theme looks better if the UI viewport is a bit smaller 19.45.25 # or fix the up viewport 19.45.42 Join mitk [0] (n=594d9564@giant.haxx.se) 19.46.02 # it surely can't work in all directions, but I largely prefer the current way 19.46.27 # the current way is illogical 19.46.40 # that's obviously subjective. it makes perfect sense to me 19.46.52 # and by your own admition... it makes the default vp in the wps ambiguous 19.47.00 # no.. loigc isnt subjective... 19.47.49 # I don't see why a skin should override actual user settings 19.48.31 # because the user setting very likely doesnt make sense 19.48.50 # the only reason that setting should be there is when no sbs is loaded 19.48.51 # very likely? 19.49.24 # yes very likely... it will only ever make sense if its rectangle is inside the bounds of the Vi rect 19.49.52 # How does bootloading usually work in rockbox? Does the bootloader usually run from IRAM/flash and loads the main rockbox binary to DRAM, or something like that? 19.50.30 # JdGordon|: and that's more likely that the other way around? 19.51.20 # kugel, JdGordon|: Hi. Can you comment FS #10717? Is there chance to commit it? 19.51.28 # bertrik: or just running in an SDRAM area that isn't used by the rockbox binary 19.51.55 # thats up for debate.. the point is still that the sbs knows where it needs to draw in and the setting doesnt care.. therefore giving the sbs priority makes logical sense 19.52.06 # you mean to boot from the filemanager? 19.52.31 # Bagder, but you have to do it carefully in such a way that this doesn't mean any memory gets "lost" to the main rockbox binary, right? 19.52.45 # bullshit. the "setting doesn't care" is just wrong 19.52.54 Quit shaggy-h (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.03 # obviously the setting is there because the user cares where to draw lists 19.53.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.53.14 # bertrik: right, you could run the bootloader at the end of memory which you know rockbox won't use at load (used for static plugin loads) 19.53.21 # mitk: forgot about it :) yes, I want to commit it... you sure it adds to the .playlist_control file correctly? 19.53.35 # gevaerts: thinking about it, would it be possible to install Rockbox on the internal memory of the D2 and simply have it put its configuration stuff on the external? 19.54.06 # kugel: the *user* might care.. the list doesnt.... and then you *are* tying the sbs to a theme 19.54.07 # I tested it. It works. Like all other playlist manipulating commands. 19.54.35 # how? 19.54.49 # each track gets added as a "insert at position" command does it? 19.56.02 # kugel: because when you take the sbs and load it with another theme there is nothing guarneteeing it wont be drawn over 19.56.04 # ideally we would fix the ui viewport to be the maximum rect you get by combining the ui vp and %Vi 19.56.44 # kugel: I used only erlier defined functions used by other commmands playing with playlists. And tested. So it works. 19.56.50 # ideally, we should stop allowing skins to be loaded except through a .cfg 19.56.59 # nothing is ever guaranteed. most wps/sbs already break by just changing the font size 19.57.24 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/Blue-Dude) 19.57.25 # then the whole argument is silly and %Vi should be entirely removed 19.58.13 # * kugel generally doesn't consider limiting/removing existing features as ideal 19.58.44 # its not a feature... its a bug 19.58.51 # :) 19.59.54 # in fact... rmoving %Vi even makes your argument stronger 20.00.51 Join cowgarden [0] (n=qgar10@dslb-094-221-249-020.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.01.07 # I've been doing some source code editing. Is there a good reason why we don't typically use function prototypes? Any objections to putting them in? 20.01.09 # no, %Vi is for the case where no ui vp is set (and as indicator for readers of the file). i.e. 98% of the themes 20.01.31 # New commit by 03domonoky (r23368): Add mini2440 support to scramble 20.01.34 # hi, is there any cheap good player with rockbox support buyable right now? sansa sandisk V1 is no where to be found I guess 20.02.23 # kugel: then the setting should be removed! having both is not a good idea 20.02.32 # Blue_Dude: ? 20.02.47 # can you stay serious? 20.02.54 # mitk: can you add the patch for the manual also? :) and ill commit it tonight if i remember and noone beats me to it 20.03.04 # the "in production" collum in the buyers guide is really sad 20.03.13 Join mt_ [0] (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 20.03.17 # kugel: I dont know what gave you the impression that I'm not 20.03.22 # jdGordon: mostly we rely on function placement within the .c file to make sure it compiles cleanly. For some reason we don't use function prototypes. Any good reason why not? 20.03.38 # you act as every theme would magically use a sbs now 20.03.53 # ui viewport is a nice feature on its own 20.04.02 Quit mt (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.04.08 Nick mt_ is now known as mt (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 20.04.42 # yes it is... I'm not doubting that.. but the sbs ui vp should be the prioritised one.... the setting means nothing if a sbs is loaded 20.04.45 # Blue_Dude: we should (and do use) function prototypes if some place does not.. please provide a patch :-) 20.05.23 # * JdGordon| wishes more people would join this disucssion 20.05.26 # domonoky: mostly we don't, at least in the code I've been looking at: pcmbuf, playback, dsp... 20.06.04 Join Buschel [0] (n=ab@84.163.204.20) 20.06.20 # The only reason they compile at all is that the deepest code is written last, calling other code earlier in the file. 20.06.21 # JdGordon|: Of course I can. But preferably in another commit tomorrow. 20.07.00 # what about the new ports, any promising candidates? I gave up my hope for a TeleshipNAND support any time soon 20.07.40 Quit jgarvey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.08.08 # Blue_Dude: it is used... the order doesnt really matter as long as its logical 20.08.14 # I was wondering if this ought to be a style standard, and if so, where would the standard placement be? Includes, structs, enums, variable definitions, prototypes, then code? Or what? 20.08.17 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-174-097-130-131.nc.res.rr.com) 20.08.27 # actually... when that starts being the complaint you start wondering if the file shuoldnt eb split up more... 20.08.44 # Blue_Dude: at least i think we should use prototypes, its good style and helps maintenance. But we are not very strict with the placement of this things.. . 20.09.14 # * kugel finds prototypes annoying 20.09.32 # that's a helpful argument 20.09.45 # * cowgarden is sad because no one has answers for him 20.09.45 # when dealin with them at least; they're nice for reading of course ;) 20.09.45 # which one? 20.09.57 # JdGordon: That's what brought it up. I'm doing an exploratory split of playback.c and its compliation is dependent on function order. 20.10.39 # Blue_Dude: so it would be nice, if you try to clean this up while you split the files :-) 20.10.43 # functions used by other modules should be declared as a prototype in a header file (no "extern" needed BTW), otherwise I like to keep explicit prototypes to a minimum 20.11.56 # and a .c file should always #include its own header file, to make sure that the prototype and the implementation are in sync (the compiler should warn if they're not) 20.12.03 # Well, there you go. It's kinda like veggies. They're good for you but when it comes down to it, not everyone likes to eat them. 20.12.08 # * domonoky likes function prototypes, makes it easier to read and refactor. But it looks like there is no consens on this, so every devs does it how he likes in the files he writes :-) 20.13.19 # bertrik: agreed. And that's the way it seems to be done for the most part. It's annoying though when you move code around to make it easier to read or more logical, but it won't compile without the prototype. 20.14.14 Join mt_ [0] (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 20.14.16 # I can usually arrange the code in such a way that I don't need prototypes, which usually means that low-level functions are at the top of the .c file and the higher-level functions at the bottom 20.16.51 # * kugel thinks fixing the ui viewport so that it doesn't exceed the %Vi boundaries, but also so that it doesn't get bigger 20.16.58 # +is the best way to solve it 20.17.14 # bertrik: The problem is that sometimes the code is less readable that way, harder to follow. 20.19.01 # I haven't had such a case yet 20.19.02 # Does using prototypes prevent any bugs? 20.19.26 Quit mt (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.19.40 Nick mt_ is now known as mt (n=mtee@41.233.146.27) 20.20.21 # Bob_C_: not really. If there's a problem it'll show up right away at compile time. 20.20.43 # So its really a style thing. 20.21.54 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.22.17 Join BdN3504 [0] (n=55b22cde@giant.haxx.se) 20.22.25 # In which I case, I would leave it to people's judgement on a case by case basis 20.22.30 # Yeah, pretty much. 20.23.05 # raasher is responsible for the sim page, right? 20.23.13 # I just wanted to make sure that before I hacked up a file there wasn't some overriding reason for omitting them. 20.23.17 # kugel: thats the *complicated* way to solve it 20.23.47 # Anyway, thanks for the input. 20.24.05 # not complicated at all 20.24.08 # BdN3504: yes, but the sim builds are created by soap 20.24.28 # that doesnt make the default vp in the wps any less ambiguous also 20.24.59 # is that a problem? 20.25.01 # one disadvantage of using prototypes when they're not really needed is that if you change it, you have to change it at two locations 20.25.07 # course it is 20.25.23 # the default vp is always fullscreen or %Vi 20.25.46 # i.e. everyting but the statusbar area, as it always was 20.26.02 # thats the opposite of the entire rest f your argument 20.26.09 # you can read what i write, do you? 20.26.09 Quit BdN3504 (Client Quit) 20.26.25 # elaborate that please 20.26.31 # which is rather annoying than useful when refactoring 20.26.37 # is it harmful to have a player running wihtout headphones attached? 20.26.43 # cowgarden, no 20.26.50 # ok, thx 20.28.52 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r23369): Show status about downloading build information in the status bar. 20.29.53 # kugel: when it comes to the menus you said that the %Vi is ignored... that the setting takes over.... then you just said in the wps the setting is ignored and %Vi is used... 20.30.19 # yea sure 20.30.28 # the UI viewport isn't for the WPS 20.30.36 # it never was 20.32.46 # then it really makes no sense 20.34.00 Join BdN3504 [0] (n=55b22cde@giant.haxx.se) 20.34.04 Quit mitk ("CGI:IRC") 20.34.14 Quit midijunkie ("?(???~•~)?") 20.34.26 # huh? 20.34.40 # mc2739 we need new sims including the major changes of recent times 20.35.14 # so i guess i have to compile them and send them to soap, how can i reach him? 20.35.23 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.35.41 # he has not been around much lately 20.36.39 # it all makes perfect sense to me. the UI viewport is ignored in skins (because they can be freely designed). every other place uses the ui viewport. and the ui viewport as a user setting overrides - where it'sactive - everything 20.36.41 # does soap host sims ? 20.36.52 # I guess you could check with rasher about that since he hosts them. 20.36.52 # rashers are old as at 12.10.2009 20.37.05 # it's rashers server, right? so i might just contact him, if i get the chance to reach him 20.37.10 # the WPS never ever cared about the viewport lists are drawn into 20.38.03 # and in fact, sbs didn't even change that 20.38.30 # arg 20.38.32 # Stephen_: meaning before 2009-10-19: Support for customisable statusbars using the skin engine and .sbs files. 20.38.52 # yeah i wanted to try some new themes with that feature 20.38.57 # this is getting very circular and silly... 20.41.07 # does anyone else in here care about how themes work? 20.42.30 # bluebrother: hm, isn't the .rockbox path define shared between lots of things including codec and plugin paths apart from config stuff? 20.42.43 Join froggyman [0] (n=187b533e@giant.haxx.se) 20.43.29 # gevaerts: rolo too 20.43.41 # or rather that "boot file changed" detection 20.49.37 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 20.50.47 Quit Blue_Dude ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 21.00.35 Quit BdN3504 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.09.13 # domonoky: any plans to commit the touchscreen support for the mini2440 soon (or is it already in?) 21.12.05 # kugel: i am currently working on that :-) 21.13.25 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 21.18.31 Quit froggyman ("CGI:IRC") 21.20.51 # gevaerts: don't know, that's why I'm asking :) But there was an attempt to separate .rockbox from configuration in the past. Trying it again might make sense :) 21.21.52 # bluebrother: oh, it would certainly be a nice and clean solution. I just don't think it's going to be easy :) 21.22.37 Quit ender` (" Why shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain") 21.22.44 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.23.54 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@91-168-83-227.rev.libertysurf.net) 21.25.33 # Tomers: would it be a good idea to make plugins/remote_control use get_hid_usb_action() like the standard usb screen? Of course there probably needs to be some exit-combo then, but that would make remote_control a lot more useful instead of what's basically a technology demo now 21.25.41 # New commit by 03domonoky (r23370): Initial touchscreen support for mini2440. Based on D2 touchscreen driver 21.26.33 # Tomers: what I actually would like in the long term is to auto-load remote_control on USB plugin :) 21.27.42 # that should be doable 21.28.00 # huh, why was config-cowond2.h included in this commit, without any visible changes ? 21.29.12 Quit domonoky (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.30.04 # We'd of course keep a basic USB screen in the core, but it would remove all bloat objections from the user-visible USB screen and HID handling 21.30.28 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179171106.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.30.42 # basic HID would remain in core as well, because (a) we use it as the charging-only interface, and (b) we don't have real USB-in-plugins yet 21.31.44 # there is no bloat... use a skin to draw the screen :) 21.32.43 # markun, gevaerts, do you know if the display in the meizu m6sl has its own framebuffer? 21.33.19 # I don't know... 21.33.20 # or what kind of bus is used to connect the display to the main SoC? 21.34.39 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-148-25.si.res.rr.com) 21.34.51 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 21.35.43 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.37.36 # bertrik: I didn't think it had its own framebuffer. Does the one in the M6SP have one? 21.39.10 # no, it get its RGB data directly from the SoC, the SoC contains the frame buffer 21.40.39 # I thought the M6SL uses the S6D0154, the datasheet of that says it has GRAM, so I'm a bit confused about this 21.41.39 Quit Buschel () 21.52.44 Quit fyre^OS (Connection timed out) 21.52.58 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 21.53.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.54.17 Quit pamaury (Remote closed the connection) 21.54.50 # domonoky: weird, apparently your commit added 12.1KB of spaces in the middle of config-cowond2.h. wonder what went wrong there! 21.55.14 # whoops.. 21.58.42 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 21.58.44 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.59.30 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.59.32 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r23371): remove accidentally commited spaces. 22.01.46 # TheSeven: My battery bench lasted 17h 30m 58s on my Nano2G. But turning it back on, it's still working (but with a flashing battery icon) 22.02.01 # saratoga: pong 22.02.40 # linuxstb: only 17h? what did you do to your battery!? 22.02.42 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 22.03.00 # can you paste the log so i can calibrate the battery meter? 22.03.15 # TheSeven: Nothing - maybe that's the problem. It's been sitting unused in a drawer almost since the day I bought it... 22.05.26 # TheSeven: http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/battery_bench.txt 22.05.35 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 22.05.46 # Tomers: regarding the USB HID enable / disable setting: wouldn't it make more sense to merge that with the HID mode setting as a simple "disabled" mode? 22.06.54 # bluebrother: they really mean different things. What if you cycle through them and leave it on disable the next time you connect? 22.06.59 Quit Grahack (Client Quit) 22.07.54 # if been trying to recall if there isn't also a seperate menu setting (not only the modes you can cycle through in the USB screen) 22.08.03 # gevaerts: is that really a problem? You need to reconnect anyway, do you? 22.08.46 # I think it is a problem if you cycle through them while transferring data 22.09.02 # hmm, you can do that? 22.09.57 # yes 22.10.16 # ah, ok. Wasn't aware of that. 22.10.44 # unless you are on MacOS 10.4 ;) 22.11.04 # pixelma: you can still cycle through the modes :) 22.11.31 # but not while transferring data 22.12.31 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@jhulst.com) 22.13.01 # the HID functions even work there somewhat 22.13.39 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 22.15.25 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r23372): Move mknkboot.[ch] to beastpatcher folder. 22.18.04 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.18.18 # pixelma: it's not my fault it isn't transferring data then! 22.18.57 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@c-68-62-19-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.21.26 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.28 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@jhulst.com) 22.22.30 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 22.25.47 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 22.33.01 # does foswiki support lists in tables? 22.42.18 # bluebrother: I've discussed this issue with gevaerts, and he suggested having a separate setting for this, as there will be MTP and other classes which will need enable settings 22.42.55 # is anyone working on mtp ? 22.43.10 # apparently, yes 22.43.15 # Stephen_: I think I read something about it. No sure though 22.43.32 # gevaerts: I'll answer you tomorrow (got to go now) 22.43.32 # thatd be handy 22.43.34 # Tomers: fair enough. 22.43.48 # someone's working on mtp? 22.44.42 Quit Tomers ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") 22.45.05 # yes. I haven't looked at it at all yet, but apparently it's pretty far along 22.47.51 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 22.47.52 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 22.51.21 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 22.54.28 # does the sbs *require* a %Vi ? 22.54.32 Quit funman ("free(random());") 22.57.01 # no 22.57.33 # it works without, but not using on is rather useless 22.57.40 # one* 22.58.15 # no its not 22.58.19 # (useless) 22.58.48 # it works fine without if a ui vp is set. if not there'll be redraw problems 23.06.39 Join Topy44 [0] (n=Topy44@g227205112.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.07.48 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 23.08.21 Quit T44 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.33 # domonoky: I've started drawing a graph on the DeviceDetection wiki page ... 23.12.50 Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) 23.13.00 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 23.25.01 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8EFC2.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.31.38 Join T44 [0] (n=Topy44@f048129128.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.31.38 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.37.48 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.39.43 Join NoGare [0] (i=NoGare@216.8.173.118) 23.40.43 Join Lynx0 [0] (n=Lynx@xdsl-78-34-245-222.netcologne.de) 23.40.49 Quit Sajber^ ("Leaving.") 23.48.35 Quit TopyMobile_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.49.04 Join TopyMobile_ [0] (n=topy@f048129128.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.52.07 Quit scorche|sh (Connection reset by peer) 23.53.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.56.58 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.56.58 Nick Lynx0 is now known as Lynx_ (n=Lynx@xdsl-78-34-245-222.netcologne.de) 23.57.25 # New commit by 03rasher (r23373): Adapt to the new method of building w32 sims (adds a -w flag).