--- Log for 02.11.109 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 hours and 52 minutes ago 00.00.21 # Hum I could have made the commit log more explicit 00.00.24 # (about the manual) 00.00.35 # Bob_C: audio works now? 00.02.05 # More or less! 00.04.00 # The clock speed of the codec interface is not very accurate through 00.04.30 # rhcp1253: yes, from the hardware side, but it isn't implemented yet in rockbox 00.05.14 # whats the Whimory version on the nano2g? 00.05.35 # there isn't really any version number besides an "A004" signature 00.07.15 # * funman wonders about the 22 bytes binsize increase on e200v2 not present on Fuze 00.08.28 # @bluebrother: it seems the rbtuil CLi task has been stopped for while? 00.08.42 # are there any plans to get it started 00.09.18 # akur: is there info on this project? (wiki or something else) 00.09.53 # for what I've seen in the fs#8571 00.10.08 # no updates have been made since april 2009 00.10.12 # 2008, sorry 00.10.59 # and the only mention to this feature in the wiki i've seen is in rbutil development page as a futher enchancement 00.12.52 # JdGordon: stupid is, we don't need to turn it into a %? thing 00.13.16 # we can just make it into a %?<|false> thing, avoiding the NULL thing 00.15.25 Join ender [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 00.21.57 # Looks like some committers were rather undecided today... 00.22.09 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.40 Join cas [0] (n=chatzill@bl15-106-33.dsl.telepac.pt) 00.23.02 Nick cas is now known as casainho (n=chatzill@bl15-106-33.dsl.telepac.pt) 00.23.34 Quit rasher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.34 # haha 00.24.04 Quit ender (" A SQL query goes into a bar, walks up to two tables and asks, "Can I join you?"") 00.25.51 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 00.26.07 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.26.13 Quit shai (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.26.21 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.30.52 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 00.31.07 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.31.21 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.31.23 # * funman will make no comments 00.31.32 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.35.17 # New commit by 03kugel (r23479): Rework how feature skin tags work (%cc currently) when used conditionally (i.e. to detect a feature). ... 00.35.36 # New commit by 03funman (r23480): Sansa AMS PCM: remove runtime sanity checks ... 00.35.51 Quit Strife89 ("Going home.") 00.39.45 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 00.40.55 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 00.41.11 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.41.11 Quit dmb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.41.13 # New commit by 03funman (r23481): Sansa AMS : reduce size of interrupt source/isr mapping table ... 00.41.24 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.48.07 # kugel: you have a e200v1 right? could you compare pitch_detector on fuze & e200v1 ? 00.48.27 # I assume so 00.48.50 Join Ingrid [0] (n=igr_2000@190.10.51.10) 00.49.03 # When I start the plugin loopback is enabled so I can hear myself in the phones, but I can't see any effect on the screen 00.49.30 # reading pcm-pp.c I don't see an obvious thing I might have made differently 00.50.09 Part Ingrid 00.50.16 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 00.51.31 Join Ingrid [0] (n=igr_2000@190.10.51.10) 00.51.34 Part Ingrid 00.56.04 # gcc prefers using the stack rather than r12 ?? 00.57.15 # funman: will try 00.57.54 Quit mt (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.59.19 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 01.01.44 # funman: I don't hear myself, but I see the notes on the screen on my e200 01.01.56 # ok so we miss something 01.05.34 # pitch detector is clearly not meant for microphones :/ 01.08.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.37 # ugh 01.09.39 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 01.10.38 # how am I supposed to control the plugin on the c200? I can't get to a menu or even quit 01.11.10 # quick look into the code... it combines 3 PLA context, trouble to be expected :( 01.11.33 # hence my rework, I probably commit soon 01.11.35 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 01.11.37 # contexts 01.14.15 # have to hard power off, I'm not even sure if that's the only problem or if there is more to it - no button presses (short or long) do anything. I only get a blank white screen (could use the lamp plugin instead though) 01.15.08 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 01.16.08 # pixelma: that doesn't seem related to PLA 01.16.18 Quit mcuelenaere () 01.18.04 # maybe it's not but I wouldn't be surprised if it has issues with controls on some targets. I wonder though why it works on your e200 and not the c200, I thought the audio hardware is quite similar 01.19.58 # funman: pitch detector works here 01.20.04 # it sounds like a helicopter though 01.20.32 # it looks like screen updates cause slowness 01.21.04 # also, is it me or is the recording only put out to the left channel? 01.21.51 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.22.23 # i think it can be tuned in the recording options (mono mode) 01.23.33 # it's set to stereo 01.23.51 # microphone is mono 01.24.06 # (afaiu) 01.24.39 # i removed my OF recordings, we could check what it does 01.24.56 # kugel: hehe true 01.25.46 # funman: I can't listen to the recording, instead it playback a different folder :/ 01.26.02 # ? 01.26.02 # funman: wtf? you do some accidental svn up + ci? 01.26.10 # JdGordon: no I use git-svn 01.26.12 # zzZz 01.26.23 # ah, you're one of *those* people are you :D 01.28.41 Quit rhcp1253 ("Leaving") 01.28.41 # * kugel should upload his fine fuze theme, using sbs, and %Sx 01.30.30 Quit adiroiban (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.30.37 # ugh 01.31.03 # don't dare to enable recording! the main menu in my theme shows a scrollbar with that additional item now! 01.31.29 # *cough* customisable menus 01.31.44 # (03:13:27 PM) kugel: we can just make it into a %?<|false> thing, avoiding the NULL thing <- thats easy enough to do... if we want to do that? 01.32.15 # svn up 01.32.18 # I think it does make things slightly more obvious 01.32.21 # oh, you did it? 01.32.29 Join shai_ [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 01.32.46 # that even saved a buf++ statement! 01.33.02 # haha.. awesome! 01.33.05 Join adiroiban [0] (n=adiroiba@h194-54-129-79.teleson.ro) 01.33.18 # * kugel isn't sure why he thought it should point behind the | at the beginning 01.33.43 # as long as the conditional tags get the right token index all should be good 01.34.11 # is str lr, [sp, #-4]! / ldr pc, [sp], #4 more efficient than stmfd sp!, {lr} / ldmfd sp!, {pc} ? 01.35.38 # JdGordon: it's really an empty true case. the main parsing function just sees the | directly after the opening < now 01.36.34 Join halfbyte [0] (n=halfbyte@unaffiliated/n00b81) 01.37.03 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.37.14 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Strife89@adsl-220-119-35.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.37.17 Part halfbyte ("Leaving") 01.37.29 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.37.57 # ok cool 01.38.10 # now if only we could stick %xl inside conditionals... 01.38.38 # actually... hmm... we might be able to 01.38.49 # isn't it possible? 01.38.50 # as long as the |> is on a different line 01.38.57 # iirc it eats the whole line 01.39.40 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.11 Quit shai (No route to host) 01.44.55 Quit slam_ ("Leaving") 01.52.10 # why would you want the %xl in a conditional, to get skin RAM usage down or some other reason? 01.53.27 Quit akur ("Leaving.") 01.55.58 # pretty much 01.58.14 # yeah 01.58.26 # except that RAM is wasted anyway.. so its not relly a big deal 01.58.56 # except if you happen to want to load big bmp's in a wps/sbs which is shared on fm (where the images would be used).. 02.03.04 # kugel: %mp definetly works on target as it says in CustomWPS? 02.03.28 # I'm getting the stopped icon on the sim for fm screen... is that supposed to be like that? 02.04.51 Join ifonefox [0] (n=chatzill@c-69-142-98-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 02.05.12 Quit ifonefox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.05.37 Join slam_ [0] (n=grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 02.05.39 # rec screen on sim makes no sense at all :) 02.05.48 # it doesnt stop playback (apparently) 02.06.48 Quit slam_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.07.47 # 01:21 < kugel> also, is it me or is the recording only put out to the left channel? 02.07.57 # kugel: did you mean the wav/mp3 file produced or loopback? 02.08.47 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.10.48 # I wonder if an ISR can be interrupted, or if the next interrupt happens after the current isr has returned 02.10.59 # (assuming FIQs are disabled) 02.11.24 # JdGordon: works here, I just extended by own sbs with it 02.11.35 # funman: loopback 02.11.47 # yeah sorry, didnt realise you had to press start/play/9 in the sim to get it to change from stop 02.12.10 # gotta just do the rec bar now and I can get back to removing the old bar from source :) 02.12.55 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.12.56 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.13.16 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.13.55 # I don't think we can do something here, the OF doesn't use loopback for voice 02.14.18 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r23482): more minor classic_statusbar.sbs changes... display the rec/fm mode correctly 02.14.39 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 02.14.41 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.15.00 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.15.26 Quit AaronM (Remote closed the connection) 02.17.00 # funman: I think only the FIQ can interrupt other IRQs, maybe not even that 02.17.06 # else, no not on our systems 02.19.13 Join AaronM [0] (n=Aaron@adsl-4-232-113.mem.bellsouth.net) 02.19.38 Quit shai_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.19.56 Join shai_ [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 02.21.29 # bah, this is going to be painful :( 02.24.46 Quit Bob_C_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 02.31.13 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 02.35.09 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.38.34 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@user-0c6s6j8.cable.mindspring.com) 02.41.32 Join aevin [0] (i=eivindsy@decibel.pvv.ntnu.no) 02.42.17 Quit funman ("free(random());") 02.44.37 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.44.43 # hey guys. my iaudio7 won't turn on. when I connect it to my pc with usb it always appear in the telechip boot mode (vid:pid 140e:b021). this should happen only when the mode button is held while connecting usb, otherwise boot normally. do you guys know if the telechip normally does a firmware consistency check before booting the image, and hence maybe always enters the special boot mode? 02.46.23 # * JdGordon sees GET_RECT() in statusbar.c and throws something very sharp and heavy at kugel 02.46.35 # (alternatively, my mode button has gotten stuck somehow. even though it still feels clicky.) 02.46.35 # .. and explosive! 02.48.56 # JdGordon: regarding your forum reply, if I do not display the progress bar and info, will I be able to regain that space for the UI? 02.49.11 # I dont tihnk so.. 02.49.15 # JdGordon: change it then, that was from before you guys decided it is bad 02.49.17 # I had thought about that while posting... 02.49.32 # ^ mc2739, not kugel :) 02.50.14 # and has anyone been able to use tcctool on gnu/linux (native? wine?) successfully? 02.51.00 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.55.34 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@user-0c6s6gs.cable.mindspring.com) 02.58.30 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.58.55 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 03.00.13 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 03.01.14 Quit casainho ("good night :-)") 03.01.16 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@user-0c6s6gs.cable.mindspring.com) 03.01.50 # aevin: you just check out the tcctool source from svn and run "make". easy peasy. it uses libusb :-) 03.05.01 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.08.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.11.32 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 03.14.32 Part froggyman 03.15.07 Join slam_ [0] (n=grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 03.20.31 Join fejfighter [0] (n=fejfight@C-61-68-20-44.hay.connect.net.au) 03.29.01 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 03.29.31 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8FBBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.38.07 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 03.38.29 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-150-85.si.res.rr.com) 03.38.34 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.49.06 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.49.26 Part froggyman 03.57.59 # Around what revision number was 3.4 released? 04.00.47 # Strife89: it looks like it was around r22757 or so 04.01.02 # Hmmm. 04.01.15 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.01.34 # no, closer to r22815 04.01.36 # * Strife89 wonders why Azure Whisper isn't working right. http://themes.rockbox.org/themes/220x176/azure_ultimate_sbs/Azure%20Ultimate%20SBS.zip 04.02.36 # I'm using r23351, with the most recent Mikmod patch (FS#8806) at the moment. 04.02.55 # Building fresh to be sure. 04.03.57 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 04.04.01 # If you try it, it's an iPod Color/Photo theme. 04.04.44 # The site *says* that the theme works with both 3.4 and the current build, which is r23482 at the moment. 04.04.44 # I can't believe it works with 3.4, since the custom statusbar was not released then. 04.05.07 # Hmmm. 04.05.16 # s/released/committed/ 04.05.44 # * Strife89 has been manually installing themes. 04.06.03 # I.E., no RBUtility to factor in. :) 04.06.42 # * Strife89 is used to the manual method, but might use rbutil if he gets a supported but un-Rockboxed DAP. 04.06.48 # the custom status bar commit was r23258 04.06.58 # Ah. 04.07.01 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.07.06 # 7 commits short. :/ 04.07.16 # Explains why it didn't work right, I guess. 04.07.48 # Is there a manual entry for the custom statusbar yet? Or something that explains most of the options and the syntax? 04.07.48 # yup 04.08.01 # Strife89: you said you're on r23351 which is almost 100 revs after 04.08.10 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 04.08.10 # Oh. 04.08.20 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-191-179.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.08.24 # I misread. ^^; 04.08.41 # BUT you need a current build for the %Sx tag 04.08.55 # There we go, then. 04.09.10 # * Strife89 sets up a compiler under Ubuntu 9.10. 04.09.37 # Strife89: documented here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS 04.11.01 # Strife89: you can download a current build from the website 04.11.14 # kugel: I know, but I want the Mikmod patch. 04.11.53 # mc2739: Where on that page? [Ctrl]+[F] isn't helping. :/ 04.13.00 # minor problem when you are mimiking the inbuilt bar.... its hard to tell if its working because it loaded the sbs correctly... or because it didnt :p 04.14.42 Quit Topy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.15.21 # Heh, I also want to clock a build speed on a 64-bit CPU. :P 04.15.48 # * Strife89 spots a yellow right off the bat. :/ 04.16.06 # Strife89: try searching "Custom Status Bar" on that page 04.16.10 # arm-elf-gcc: /home/michael/rockbox/apps/plugins/boomshine.lua: linker input file unused because linking not done 04.16.33 # that is known, but no known fix yet 04.17.27 # * Strife89 makes. 04.17.36 # Clock start! :) 04.17.42 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.17.43 # %?cs<%Vdc%Vdp%Vdr%Vds|%Vdc%Vdp%Vdr%Vds|%VdR|%Vdc%Vdp%Vdr%Vds> <- whats the mistake there? 04.18.24 # the fact that i have know idea what that is 04.18.33 # s/know/no 04.18.41 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 04.18.44 # I concur. 04.19.05 # That looks ... very complex. 04.20.59 # apparently capital letters are no good for viewport labels?! 04.21.13 # JdGordon: can you have that many "|" in a conditional? 04.21.32 # thats *nothing* compared to one of the other ones 04.21.42 # %?Rp<%?Re<%xdea|%xdeb|%xdec|%?Rb<%xdma|%xdmb|%xdmc|%xdmd|%xdme|%xdmf|%xdmg|%xdmh|%xdmi|%xdmj|%xdmk|%xdml|%xdmm|%xdmn|%xdmo|%xdmp|%xdmq|%xdmr>>> 04.21.43 # ! 04.21.45 # Ding! 04.21.52 # Four minutes. :) 04.21.56 # food time 04.22.08 # JdGordon: Woah! What the hell is that?? 04.22.37 # my head hurts now D: 04.25.53 # JdGordon: as stated on the custom wps page: 'identifier' is a single lowercase letter (a-z) 04.26.35 # JdGordon: no, capitals aren't allowed for some reason 04.26.52 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.27.10 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.27.24 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.28.11 Quit GeekShadow ("The cake is a lie !") 04.28.32 # JdGordon: though I think that's a stupid limitation 04.28.55 Join z35_ [0] (n=z35@ool-45714f83.dyn.optonline.net) 04.29.07 Quit z35_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.11 Quit z35 (Remote closed the connection) 04.29.18 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@ool-45714f83.dyn.optonline.net) 04.42.13 # kugel: yeah, I agree... ill fix that eventually 04.42.36 Quit adiroiban (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.46.04 Quit kugel ("exit(0);") 04.50.02 # Is rb->mktime the only function I can call from a plugin to get a time_t value of the current time? 04.52.34 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.54.01 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.55.06 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 04.58.16 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 05.06.43 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.08.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.13.03 Part toffe82 05.14.36 # does anyone have any idea how the sample and bit rate settings work in recording code? 05.20.52 Quit Strife89 ("Rebooting.") 05.21.20 Quit shai_ ("Leaving") 05.22.12 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 05.37.14 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 05.37.59 # New commit by 03kkurbjun (r23483): M:Robe 500/M66591 USB improvements: Interrupts now work, a bug in odd-length transfers has been fixed. Buffers that are not initially short aligned ... 05.46.34 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.48.11 Quit dmb (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.48.37 # * JdGordon thinks it would be nice if JhMikeS popped in 06.00.34 # oh bloody hell... mini2g doesnt have recording :< 06.00.36 # arg 06.01.39 # Which targets have CONFIG_RTC? 06.02.10 # most 06.03.14 # I'm aiming at targetting all targets minus the archos targets, will all those targets have CONFIG_RTC? 06.03.27 # all except (I tihnk) irvier h1xx's 06.03.41 # check DeviceChart wiki page 06.04.16 # right, thanks 06.06.01 # Hmm, quite a few apparently 06.06.15 Quit AaronM ("Emo Time In My Corner... //_-") 06.19.12 Join shai_ [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 06.20.13 Quit shai_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.30.16 Quit shai (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.32.25 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm46.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 06.44.33 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@192.117.110.233) 06.53.32 Join shai_ [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 06.55.36 Quit shai_ (Client Quit) 06.55.55 Join shai_ [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 06.56.40 Quit shai (Nick collision from services.) 06.57.04 Quit shai_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.57.17 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 06.57.48 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.58.55 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 07.08.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.20.18 # JdGordon: and not all recording targets can use all frequencies (most noticable the v1 Sansas are quite limited) 07.23.21 # yeah, I've hopefully done that bit in a very target agnostic way 07.23.36 # needs testing though 07.25.49 # * JdGordon has given up on the hope that he wouldn't have to fiddle with makewps.pl 07.25.59 # why is the classic_statusbar.bmp not 1-bit? Then it's automatically using fore- and background colours - now you have the transparent part and black (or would need magic cyan)... 07.26.40 # then it would be using 07.27.27 # oh, because I didnt know about that :) 07.29.16 # at least it should... the bmps work this way in my WPS (and I use it with different coloured viewports) 07.29.32 # 1-bit bmps 07.30.43 # does that work on colour targets? 07.31.16 # sure 07.31.45 # it even works on greyscale with the different viewport shades 07.31.59 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.35.01 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 07.35.04 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 07.41.07 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 07.44.27 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 07.47.14 Quit Dhraakellian (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.47.27 Join Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 07.57.53 Join rvvs89_ [0] (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 07.58.48 Nick rvvs89_ is now known as rvvs89 (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 08.02.55 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCDE6D.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.10.54 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ACaen-156-1-65-141.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.17.48 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.19.48 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.25.10 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.32.04 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.34.35 # JdGordon: did you ever make custom icons work correctly with monochrome bitmaps? 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We should say which version it was checked against. 13.18.29 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 13.19.13 # GodEater: Is there a problem then? 13.20.18 Join B4gder [0] (n=dast@rockbox/developer/bagder) 13.20.47 # well yes, when a user looks on the theme site and sees theme "Bob" works on the "current build", but it actually doesn't 13.20.57 # since it was uploaded 10,000 revisions ago 13.21.03 # or whatever 13.21.16 # "current" doesn't tell anyone anything imo 13.21.34 # But I mean, is that the case? 13.22.07 # yes 13.22.12 # someone has reported that in the forums 13.22.48 Quit z35 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.23.05 # ah - though I have of course just noticed he's downloaded it from the themes graveyard :-/ 13.23.43 # so I shall just shut up 13.24.16 # I was just about to ask if that was the thread you meant... 13.24.51 # so out of interest then - what happens in the current themes sites ? 13.24.56 # s/sites/site 13.27.12 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@ool-45714f83.dyn.optonline.net) 13.27.31 # There is still a problem though. A theme was uploaded that shows it works with release 3.4, but it uses custom statusbar which was not in 3.4 13.28.44 # 3.4 will ignore that 13.30.55 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl15-110-205.dsl.telepac.pt) 13.33.03 # this theme has a %Sx tag and needs a current build 13.36.10 # hm, true 13.40.49 # mc2739: whick theme are you actually talking about? 13.42.22 # Azure Whisper 220x176 13.44.02 # that one doesn't mention 3.4 for me 13.45.16 # it does on ipod color/photo and iriver h3xx 13.45.23 # hm, it does... 13.45.24 # but not on fuze 13.45.51 # that's presumably because 3.4 on fuze is an imaginary release 13.47.52 # mixing imaginary releases and real releases is a bit complex 13.48.55 # * Torne eyerolls 13.49.12 # is that an imaginary eyeroll or a real one? 13.49.42 # it's i roll, so imaginary 13.51.33 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.55.45 Part LinusN 13.58.48 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133112132.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.05.14 # I have recording code working with DMA on Fuze, but I have a disk is full error when stopping record 14.06.12 # which doesn't mean disk is full but: audio_status() & AUDIO_STATUS_ERROR, which means pcm_rec_status() & AUDIO_STATUS_ERROR, which means close() failed 14.07.36 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8F678.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.10.01 # it could be something else than close() though 14.19.39 # the error I just saw is PCMREC_E_FNQ_DESYNC (filename queue has desynced from stream markers) 14.42.44 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/Blue-Dude) 14.43.24 # I am confused by logf behavior. Can someone give me a hand? 14.43.45 Join reid04 [0] (n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.43.56 # Blue_Dude: sure 14.48.51 # OK, it seems that the usual case is for ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF to be disabled. In that case, if LOGF_ENABLE is defined before #define logf.h in a file, the logf statements behave much like DEBUGFs. Right so far? 14.49.59 # And they work. But... if I configure logf to be enabled for the build (defining ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF) none of the logf statements work anymore. I am confused. 14.51.06 # ^^^ #include logf.h, not #define 14.51.54 # I don't know how DEBUGF works. If ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF is defined in autoconf.h you will see a logf and logfdump entries in debug menu 14.52.17 # "logf" lets you see the current logf, "logfdump" writes it to .rockbox/logf.txt 14.52.24 # I think ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF just builds in the logf() function etc, but LOGF_ENABLE actually enables calls to logf() per module basis 14.52.45 # logf() calls will appear in the buffer if you have #define LOGF_ENABLE before #include "logf.h" 14.55.22 # Well that's just the thing. If I *don't* build for logf, but *do* define LOGF_ENABLE, the logf statements write directly to stdout, which is what I want. If I *do* build for logf, that doesn't happen anymore, even if I change nothing else. 14.56.36 # well surely that is because logf writes to a log "file" and not stdout 14.57.16 # Where do I find that file then? And if it's a simulator build, can I redirect that output to stdout? 14.57.22 # it's not a file, it's a buffer in memory 14.57.35 # Blue_Dude: the file is written to disk only if you go into debug menu and select "logfdump" 14.57.48 # But I admit I was confused by the logging options too when I tried to enable serial output 14.57.53 # if you need stdout debugging, you'd better use lcd_putsf()/lcd_update() 14.58.07 # Bob_C: +1 ^^ 14.58.41 # oh _simulator_ stdout, I'm not sure if that's implemented 14.59.15 # by "stdout" I meant the LCD 14.59.45 # My fault. By stdout *I* meant the simulator console screen. 15.00.55 # funman: btw, all DEBUGF does is printf to the sim console. 15.02.14 # That's the behavior I thought I was getting with logf, and it's what I was getting before I enabled logf in the build. 15.03.22 # if rockbox isn't built with logf enabled logf() = DEBUGF() so you shouldn't build with logf support in sim 15.03.45 # unless you want to work on the logf implementation in the sim! ;-) 15.03.58 # I think logf() is really meant for target onlyh 15.03.59 # -h 15.04.03 # yeah 15.05.52 # Hm. Not exactly what I thought it was. Which probably explains why I am not getting the results I expected. :) 15.07.26 # I wonder if it would be desirable to modify logf to output to the sim console in addition to its other functions? 15.07.27 Part B4gder 15.07.36 Join daurn| [0] (n=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 15.08.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.09.52 Quit daurn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.10.08 # what is __PCTOOL__ define ? 15.12.14 # Blue_Dude: http://pastie.org/679977 ? (untested) 15.12.41 Join Rand_Althor [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-72-40-58.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 15.14.26 # funman: why the do/while in the macro? Swallowing semicolons? 15.15.03 # Since the only frequency option for recording on my e200v1 is 22050, does that mean that I'm just wasting space if I set the bitrate to above a certain kbps? 15.15.17 # no. 15.15.19 # Blue_Dude: conditionals 15.15.26 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-174-097-130-131.nc.res.rr.com) 15.15.55 # Rand_Althor: sample frequency is not really related to bitrate for compression schemes based on psychoacoustics 15.16.35 # Rand_Althor: you just need to test and see what sounds ok ;) 15.17.08 # funman: ok. I've seen that kind of construction elsewhere and wondered what it was for, that's all. I think that would work out. I'd like to check why the logf already behaves like a DEBUGF though. Seems odd. 15.17.30 # #define a() f1(); \ f2() => if(condition) a(); else b();=> if(condition) f1(); f2(); else b(); => invalid 15.17.58 # logf behaves like DEBUGF only when ROCKBOX_HAVE_LOGF isn't defined 15.18.29 Quit funman ("free(random());") 15.18.34 # The debugf is right below that snippet in the .h. Derrr. 15.19.56 Quit fejfighter ("Ex-Chat") 15.20.11 Quit Rand_Althor ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 15.27.05 # funman: I would move line 16 to just before line 9. I assume there's an underscore just before logf in line 12? 15.28.33 # No I guess that would defeat the purpose... Never mind. 15.33.18 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 15.35.41 # funman: doesn't work. The api's expect logf as a function. The fix would have to be in _logf itself. I'll take a look. 15.36.46 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 15.37.08 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 15.42.16 # Crud: I have no idea how to pass along arguments to DEBUGF. 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I have a Sony NWZ-E436, is possible install Rockbox? 16.03.00 # webguest34: you'll just have to do the port first... 16.04.20 Quit webguest34 (Client Quit) 16.04.27 Quit teru ("Quit") 16.05.51 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 16.11.37 # __PCTOOL__ appears to be defined when checkwps is built... 16.13.13 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.13.51 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-65-31.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.18.36 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.20.52 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB9A36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.21.37 # funman: http://pastie.org/680074 16.22.20 # with "iriver E10" on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhimoryFTL is ment the E100 ? 16.25.02 # It is alive. :) 16.26.14 Quit antil33t (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.26.20 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@119.224.12.185) 16.27.12 Join SONiC [0] (n=sonic@p5082493D.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.28.02 Part SONiC 16.29.16 Quit Strife89 ("E-XChat") 16.30.08 # New commit by 03blue_dude (r23485): Echoes logf output to the sim console when logf build is enabled 16.39.25 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 16.41.27 Quit lifeless_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.42.22 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@85.105.27.20) 16.48.46 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 16.50.43 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm46.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 16.50.58 # New commit by 03blue_dude (r23486): Tweak logf statements 16.51.51 # Blue_Dude: surely you're not introcuding more // comments? B) 16.52.09 # Just one. :) 16.52.39 # That one fires every time there's a queue broadcast. It's annoying. 16.52.49 # then remove it 16.53.22 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-191-122.access.telenet.be) 16.53.23 # Maybe someone put it there originally for a reason? Dunno why. 16.53.38 # but we don't use // comments, so you did it wrong now anyway 16.53.54 # I'm a bad boy. :( 16.53.57 # GodEater: re theme site: move your mouse over "Current build" and hold still 16.54.24 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (n=TheSeven@188.46.139.113) 16.55.58 Join Omlet [0] (i=omlet05@119.145-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 16.56.01 Join Omlet05 [0] (i=omlet05@119.145-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 16.57.22 # New commit by 03blue_dude (r23487): Playback.c: Eliminate repetitive watermark calculation when the buffer is idle. Also fix evil comment 16.59.23 # B4gder: Evil // comment snuffed! 16.59.30 # thanks! 17.05.37 Quit Zagor ("Don't panic") 17.05.49 Quit casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091028153816]") 17.07.48 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 17.08.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.18.56 Quit daurn| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.19.38 # btw what do you dislike about these comments? 17.19.49 Join daurn| [0] (n=daurnima@freenode/staff/daurnimator) 17.19.53 # markun: with "iriver E10" on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhimoryFTL is ment the E100 ? 17.21.58 Join Anon937 [0] (n=Anonymou@T1b38.t.pppool.de) 17.24.51 # there is an e10 model too, right? 17.25.02 # TheSeven|Mobile: they're not C! 17.25.15 # well, they are now, but still... 17.25.34 # * gevaerts thinks we should move to K&R style function declarations 17.26.09 # B4gder: you're right. i've found it now 17.30.09 Quit adiroiban (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.33.55 # gevaerts: that one's easy: just run the entire rockbox code base through a prettifyer. 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Or lynch you. 17.34.30 Quit mcuelenaere ("bbl") 17.34.43 # for those working o whimory FTL , is this can help you : http://github.com/planetbeing/iphonelinux/blob/53d3def8ec923a496695345855ac759c21d9602a/openiboot/ftl.c 17.34.50 # r it is not related 17.42.40 Quit stoffel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.42.54 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@85.105.27.20) 17.43.16 # something new on the fuze side? 17.45.12 # petur: you have a few recording targets yeah? 17.45.26 # mainly h3x0 17.45.52 # my h120 is broken with Linus 17.46.04 # and the H10 isn't really a recording device ;) 17.46.20 # can you test 10753 anyway? :) 17.46.35 # not before wednesday :/ 17.46.51 # ok 17.47.43 # * petur sends mail to self as reminder 17.48.36 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.48.50 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm46.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 17.49.08 # * JdGordon finds it slightly funny that the rec screen could very well be skinnable before fm... and apparently there is much more interest in the other way around :) 17.52.27 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-232-18.slkc.qwest.net) 17.53.32 Part B4gder 17.54.16 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.59.39 Quit petur ("work->...") 18.03.29 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 18.11.02 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.13.59 Quit darkham ("Sto andando via") 18.14.01 # domonoky: ping 18.14.08 # pong 18.14.53 # I want to change the CPU frequency on mini2440 to be 400MHz, does that present any problems do you think? 18.16.20 Join polobricolo [0] (i=5c93487d@gateway/web/freenode/x-d3349c2326c4bd81) 18.16.41 Quit Blue_Dude ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 18.16.43 # Bob_C: i dont think that would cause any problems, if your clock calculations are right :-) 18.17.43 # with lua, if i place a file in .rockbox/rocks/viewers/lua is it included automaticaly included 18.17.58 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 18.18.39 # Bob_C: from what i can see in system-target.h and the config-xx.h we already run at 400Mhz when boosted ? 18.18.53 # I have been trying to find a clock frequency which gives an accurate sample rate for playback, 400MHZ is the best compromise I can find 18.19.40 # it shuoldnt need to run that fast for accurate playback! 18.20.06 # Bob_C: normally rockbox uses two (three) cpu frequencys, one slow, and one high when we need the cpu power... 18.20.23 # so we should try to get accurate sample rate for both frequencys. 18.20.43 # The problem is the codec clock is derived from PCLK via a 1-32 divider, which gives a very limited range of frequencies 18.21.49 # I can make sample rate accurate for 11, 22, 44kHz or 12, 24,48 etc but not both 18.23.06 Nick topik_ is now known as topik (i=awesome@213.203.214.114) 18.23.13 # as this isnt a portable player, we could also run it at always the same frequency if we want. Power consumtion isnt important for the mini2440 18.23.38 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8F678.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.24.05 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.24.14 # The CPU speed is not really the issue, it's the fact that PCLK = FCLK/8, and ideally PCLK is a multiple of sampling freq 18.24.49 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.26.04 # This issue arises because the UDA1341 does not have its own PLL, and the IIS clock gen on the SoC is very limited range 18.27.05 # ah, HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ isnt defined for mini2440, so we already run always at max frequency. So we can just set the frequency so we have minimal error for the most commonly used sample rates. 18.27.30 # So the question is what are the common sample rates? 18.27.47 # which is proabably 44.1khz. Many targets only support one frequency on the output. Then rockbox will convert if needed. 18.28.10 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm46.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 18.29.07 # Is an error of 1.6% on the rate acceptable? 18.30.12 # i.e. it will play at 43.4 kHz 18.31.06 # * domonoky doesnt really know. but thinks you wont hear it if a song runs 1,6% too fast or too slow.. 18.31.52 # * domonoky still awaits the Gentlemen mail from Bob_C :-) 18.32.43 Join lifeless_ [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.183.104) 18.32.51 # To get an exact rate, ( <0.1%) I would need to run the CPU at 361.5 or 406MHZ 18.33.36 # I have been told ABBA is not a good choice for first sound... 18.35.13 # surely that's up to you? 18.39.02 # you're right, it's my party :) 18.40.48 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.42.52 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 18.43.57 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.44.05 # * JdGordon| is going to keep annoying the channel to test 0753 untill he gets kicked or a tester or three....! 18.44.11 # Bob_C: 406 sounds good 18.44.17 # 10753 18.45.28 # Bob_C: isn't the soc specified for 500MHz? 18.45.47 # or our board at least 18.47.56 # 533 MHz I think, but I am not sure about the memory. Even if its 100MHz, a small overclock is not a problem. 18.48.29 Part pyro_maniac ("Leaving.") 18.48.43 Join Highlander [0] (n=Highland@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 18.50.20 # The CPU timing also affects the timers, SD, UART etc 18.50.37 # timers too? 18.52.01 # Sure, the timer module is derived from PCLK 18.52.35 # PCLK != CPU freq? 18.53.13 # I believe F/X switch the divider for unboosting, or switch from fastbus to (a)sync mode, not sure 18.53.15 # No, FCLK is divided to get HCLK and PCLK 18.54.18 # i think the CPU can run at FCLK or HCLK which is the fast/async switch, so boosting does not affect PCLK 18.54.19 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 18.56.49 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.58.26 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 18.59.11 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 19.00.48 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.03.08 Join seani [0] (n=4e216d46@giant.haxx.se) 19.06.29 Quit Anon937 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.07.49 # Hi, I can build and test my pause-on-timeout changes against Sansa C240 and Gigabeat F40 physical players, but notice that stubs.c is used when building the UISimulator. I've made suitable changes to stubs.c, but is this standard when working with power management issues or am I missing a trick? 19.08.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.10.37 # fs10754? 19.11.21 # the sim can't 'power off' so it's probably not an issue anyway 19.12.26 # seani: you forgot to attach the patch ? 19.13.11 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-b90720be16cd3b2b) 19.13.39 # Kugel, yes, sorry, 10754. The "issue" is that I now pause when the sleep timeout matures as opposed to powering off. Actual poweroff occurs when the idle timeout subsequently kicks in (or would kick in). Not an issue as it works as I expect on the actual targets, I just wondered. 19.14.48 # funman: Sorry I thought I was meant to raise the entry and then subsequently add the patch in an additional post. I just want to test a few more combinations on the F40 before adding it. 19.15.23 # usually you just open a task when you have a patch to attach but do like you feel ;) 19.17.07 # funman: Ah, I'd forgotten what it's like to be the new boy again, tripping over my own feet :-) 19.18.22 Quit polobricolo (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 19.25.54 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.35.26 Join TheSeven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.39.14 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.39.19 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@f053155060.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.40.31 Quit TheSeven|Mobile () 19.48.53 Quit funman ("free(random());") 19.49.20 Quit FlynDice (Remote closed the connection) 19.52.02 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 19.56.03 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Strife89@168.16.237.233) 19.56.19 Join sko [0] (n=sko@M754f.m.strato-dslnet.de) 19.59.43 # Bob_C: There are other targets where we're overclocking the CPU a little bit (when boosted) for a similar reason (sample rate relates to the *fixed* base clock, and we want the cpu clock to be an integer multiple for easier timer adjustment and best timer resolution) 20.00.38 # The coldfire target's CPUs are specced 120MHz, but we're running them at ~124.2MHz when boosted 20.03.57 Quit Strife89 ("Brief OS switch.") 20.04.08 Quit stoffel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.04.33 Quit FlynDice (Remote closed the connection) 20.04.36 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@85.105.27.20) 20.04.38 Join adiroiban [0] (n=adiroiba@h194-54-129-79.teleson.ro) 20.05.59 # Hi, I played around a little to get into C and well... this is the result: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/405/bootprogress.png . I added a progressbar to the boot-screen (of the normal rockbox-build, not the bootloader). 20.06.47 # Even if the bootscreen is just visible for few seconds... I thought it could need something moving :D 20.07.21 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@87.106.45.183) 20.08.08 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 20.08.31 Join Tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 20.08.48 # sko: the reason we dont have a loader bar is because it slows down booting :) 20.08.56 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g229121131.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.11.03 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 20.11.26 # * JdGordon| spams FS#10753 again for testers (anyone who ever uses the recording screen...) 20.11.44 # hmm... yes... I already thought that is the reason why rockbox hasn't a progress bar... well, it was a little training, maybe now I can do something useful ;) 20.11.56 # :) 20.14.39 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.17.06 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.237.233) 20.17.11 # hi. I sumitted a tiny patch yesterday (10750) to get the Yes/No screen and the keyboard input to work on touchscreen only device. 20.17.34 # anyone wants to have a look and maybe commit 20.20.24 # jasio: while this patch looks sane, i wonder if it wouldnt be better to make those screen able to work with the absolute touchmode, ie react on clicks on right places, instead of changing the mode back to grid ? 20.20.27 # jasio: would it really be hard to make the yes/no screen support absolute mode? I can imagine that doing the keyboard is a lot more work, but I'm not really in favour of this sort of workaround in the "easy" cases 20.22.23 # i'm planning to implement something better. but it's going to take more time 20.22.48 # for yesno I'm thinking of 2 touch button at the bottom of the screen 20.23.44 # the keyboard in tricky because the screen is small (on most devices at least) so even with a stylus it might be difficult to use 20.24.58 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.25.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.26.04 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@gate-20.spsu.edu) 20.30.36 # the attachement size for the forums is too small for a rockbox.zip isnt it? 20.33.25 Quit kugel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.36.30 # rasher: ping 20.36.35 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@95.234.19.135) 20.36.44 Join Stephen_ [0] (n=S@86-40-191-208-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 20.41.09 # amiconn: ping 20.43.11 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.45.58 Join fildi [0] (n=poljar@89-172-31-93.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 20.52.02 # I doubt the slow down due to drawing the progressbar is messurable 20.52.14 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.52.47 # course not 20.53.38 # it wasn't on my e250v2, but i don't know if its measurable on older targets 20.54.40 Quit shai ("Leaving") 20.55.29 # I think booting is just too fast anyway to even consider a progressbar ;) 20.55.31 # ideally the boottime isnt even long enough to show a bar :) 20.57.24 # usually most time is spend in the bootloader 20.57.53 # unless db or dircache decide to do a rebuild 20.58.18 # dircache always does a rebuild, except on h100 20.58.37 # JdGordon: i could see this while i was testing this: the bar is already on about 50% when the bootscreen is drawn the first time :) 20.59.23 # out of curiosity.. how are you updating the progress? randomly through main()? 21.01.37 Quit Hillshum (Remote closed the connection) 21.02.13 # JdGordon: not randomly... but sure sub-optimal: i added a new function to misc.c (as show_logo() is there too), and before every init-call (lets say init_storage() ) the function is called with a text and the amount of boot-steps (as int) (because this can change due to some ifdefs there) 21.03.09 # is the text ever displayed long enough to be readbale? 21.04.12 # well... i tried the archos ondio fm simulator (the smallest display, isn't it?) and there it gets to long in some steps 21.04.38 # sko: if you use a macro you could draw the function name directly 21.05.35 # #define INIT_CALL(init_func) { init_func(); lcd_puts(x,y, ##init_func) } for example 21.05.47 # * JdGordon| glares at kugel 21.05.48 # ir #init_func, not sure. 21.06.31 # what? 21.06.40 # the name of the function will be displayed? that would be nice 21.07.12 # sko: the preprocessor has some magic to form the arguments of a macro into a string literal 21.07.19 # using macros because you are lazy is bad... that could be done just as easily (and have the text displayed better) with a inline function 21.07.29 # JdGordon|: not here 21.07.33 # yes here 21.07.37 # how? 21.08.36 # that's not lazyness. there's no other way to make a function name into a string automatically 21.08.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.08.52 # static inline void init_call(void(*function)(void)) { lcd_puts(); function(); } 21.09.21 # ys, but if the point of displayign text is to give the *user* more information, then using the init function name is just silly 21.09.42 # you clearly omitted the most important fact, the argument of lcd_puts. 21.09.45 Quit Strife89 ("She sells C Shells by the seashore....") 21.10.02 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.237.233) 21.10.06 # * JdGordon| raises his hands as champion! 21.11.21 # "tagcache_init()" contains as much information as "initializing tagcache", with the automation bonus 21.11.43 # pcf50605_init()? system_init() 21.11.52 # imo all those shouldnt even be in apps/main.c 21.12.34 # system_init should, pcf50605_init isn't even 21.13.02 # that was an off-the-top-of-my-head-example 21.13.09 # but the 2 after usb_init are weird 21.13.18 Join pyro_maniac [0] (n=pyro@91-64-165-18-dynip.superkabel.de) 21.13.26 # it should be target_init() and then straight into anything from apps which needs initiing 21.13.29 # right, there are two slightly cryptic names 21.13.47 # isp1362_init and m5636_init, which are both within a CONFIG_USBOTG #ifdef (they could be in usb_init(_device) imo) 21.13.50 # also.. tagcache *is* wrong because we call it the database to users 21.14.02 # bertik: did you ever contact meizu people? 21.15.22 # anyway, your inline doesn't do what I want, so I win 21.15.23 # yeah... the current messages are more for testing and i think i don't have the knowledge yet to write useful messages for all the init steps (i got 15 + few for some ifdefs) 21.15.25 # :p 21.18.29 Join Bluescreen [0] (n=Miranda@dsl-kvlbrasgw2-fec9dc00-77.dhcp.inet.fi) 21.21.40 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 21.21.59 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 21.22.11 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 21.26.25 # does any of the hwcodec targets share the same screen size with swcode? 21.27.06 # or the actual question... for rec skinning, should I bother adding a hwcodec yes/no token? 21.27.52 Part Bluescreen 21.32.25 # JdGordon: I'll look at the patch to see what you're up to 21.32.50 # yay :) 21.32.56 Quit seani ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.33.23 # just adding tags to make it possible to redo the current rec bar in the .sbs skin 21.33.51 # why does %St not work, btw? I haven't looked at it really 21.34.10 # because the settings arnt useable directly 21.34.10 # next step will be the WRS? 21.34.17 # big possibility 21.34.30 # probaly using the %Vi tag to position the list control 21.35.21 # I'm slowly prepping the histogram 21.35.34 # they are not usable directy? surely for conditional use an order is sufficient 21.36.29 # no, because (for example) you want a different display if its using the MP3 encoder instead of wav.. and then the bitrates there arnt the same on all targets 21.36.38 # also the smaplerate is target dependant appparently 21.37.47 # recreen sb is a monster :p 21.38.20 # yep :) 21.38.51 # So are the old releases (> 2.5 but < 3.4) stored anywhere online? If so, can someone give me a link? 21.39.36 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 21.40.04 # download.rockbox.org presumably 21.40.23 # http://download.rockbox.org/release/ 21.41.00 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.41.47 Join AaronM [0] (n=Aaron@adsl-4-232-113.mem.bellsouth.net) 21.42.38 # JdGordon|: Thanks - but this isn't linked to anywhere from the download page, that only shows the pre 3.0 releases. 21.43.18 # that link has folders for every one past 3.0 for me? 21.43.38 # which release are you after? 21.44.40 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.44.57 # I meant that if you go to http://www.rockbox.org/download/ then the only link for old releases is http://download.rockbox.org/old_releases/ and not http://download.rockbox.org/release/ so that might need to be changed? 21.45.39 # evilnick_B: patches to the www module welcome... ;) 21.53.51 Part froggyman 21.59.54 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.00.01 Quit Zagor ("Clint excited") 22.01.19 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.24 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 22.05.20 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 22.13.20 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.14.00 # why was the gigabeast changed from unusable to unstable? was it just a reconsideration or has there been code changes? 22.14.08 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.08 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.14.18 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.14.19 # thats a #rockbox-community topic 22.15.15 Quit sko ("bye") 22.16.18 # it was a re-evaluation I believe 22.16.49 # ok, thats what I was wondering 22.16.58 # the beast has always been controversial 22.21.05 Quit mikroflops (Remote closed the connection) 22.21.33 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@90-231-195-226-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 22.22.37 # JdGordon|: how does the recscreen statusbar deal with the hwcodec's "quality" setting instead of bitrate? 22.22.50 # in your rework obviously 22.22.57 # right now it doesnt... it doesnt apply for hwcodec yet 22.23.09 # I'm going to add a hwcodec check and then add seperate tags 22.23.18 # then it will work the same 22.23.21 # .. hopefully 22.26.54 Join seani [0] (n=user@78.33.109.70) 22.27.28 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@85-171-108-41.rev.numericable.fr) 22.28.29 Quit phanboy4 ("Leaving") 22.30.39 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.32.05 Quit seani ("Leaving.") 22.33.27 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.33.42 Join seani [0] (n=user@78.33.109.70) 22.33.54 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.34.07 Part seani 22.37.09 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@gate-20.spsu.edu) 22.37.21 Quit Strife89 ("Switching OSes again.") 22.38.10 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 22.39.03 # Could someone take a look at my small patch in FS#10754 ? Thanks! 22.44.51 Quit petur ("Zzzzzzz") 22.47.01 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-150-85.si.res.rr.com) 22.47.44 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.54.10 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@87.106.45.183) 22.55.59 Part pyro_maniac 22.56.50 # New commit by 03rob (r23488): Add touchscreen WPS actions for volume up/down (using a button rather than the slider). 22.59.20 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 23.02.58 Quit stripwax (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.03.44 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@nc652193e.cns.vt.edu) 23.04.18 Quit kugel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.06.03 Quit Zarggg () 23.06.46 # Hello, I was wondering why some ports of rockbox seem to have song rating built in, while others do not 23.06.47 # AEnima1577: Rating songs depends on the database being loaded into RAM, as I recall 23.07.05 # AEnima1577: all targets should be able to do it, but there may be targets with dont really map it to keys ? Do you ask about a speicif target ? 23.08.03 # domonoky1, when you say targets, you are talking about different portable players? 23.08.11 # yes 23.08.22 # Im running a ipod video 23.08.38 # domonoky1: no, "Gather runtime data" needs to be enabled 23.08.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.09.03 # pixelma: sure, but it still has the feature builtin.. 23.09.14 # you just need to enable some option. 23.09.43 # pixelma: YES! That's what I meant earlier. 23.09.47 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 23.09.47 # domonoky1: I meant evilnick_B actually, sorry 23.09.53 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.09.59 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 23.10.08 # so need to enable runtime data... 23.11.08 # and then setting the rating is done through the WPS context menu 23.11.14 # some of the things ive read on this make it sound like i need to revert to an older build 23.11.29 # AEnima1577: yes, if you enable this option, the WPS context menu should have a setting to rate songs. 23.11.56 # ive been around the WPS menu, all i can seem to do with it is change the theme of that specific window, pixelma 23.12.57 # you are probably not in the WPS context menu. read the manual, on how to get there. 23.13.07 # AEnima1577: (long) Hold select when on the wps 23.13.20 # no, not the "While Playing Screen" item in the theme settings menu, I mean the context menu you get from the WPS during playback (and if "Gather runtime data" is enabled) 23.15.10 Quit Grahack ("Leaving.") 23.16.06 # ok, so i now have the runtime data enabled.... 23.16.22 # that was not difficult, yet im still feeling like Im missing something 23.18.11 # New commit by 03theseven (r23489): Hopefully fix the remaining iPod Nano 2G flash issues, by adding a tiny sleep after resetting the chip. Also remove some evil tabs. 23.18.47 # ok, will the song rating show up anywhere on the WPS 23.19.00 # or is it just stored in the background 23.19.12 # you can display it 23.19.34 # you need to find a theme which already shows it, or head to the CustomWPS page on the wiki to modify your theme to do it 23.19.37 # have to find a theme WPS that has that already built in, or need to write myself something 23.19.45 # yea, figured 23.19.45 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.19.53 # thanks JdGordon 23.20.21 # ok, one more for everyone, now lets pretend I have had this ipod for years, and been rating all my songs, in the ipod firmware rating system 23.20.37 # has anyone ever written a little script of some sort to convert over the ratings? 23.20.44 # nope 23.21.06 # domonoky1, would you say it is possible to do this, 23.21.13 # i mean anything is possible right? 23.21.21 # AEnima1577: It's possible to do so, just no-one has...yet. 23.21.30 # sure, nothing is impossible in software :-) 23.21.50 # representing 0.1 as a float is :) 23.21.54 # and dividing by 0 23.22.27 # JdGordon| thats only non-trivial.. just use some other number representation... 23.23.06 # ok ok ok, now since i assume you guys have been doing this for a long time, has anyone else ever asked this convert over ratings questions before? 23.23.52 # domonoky1: did you get anywhere with the SD driver? 23.23.52 # the specific question: " does anyone have a means to convert the ratings over" 23.24.24 # AEnima1577: I don't think so 23.25.14 # Thanks again everyone 23.25.20 # AEnima1577: I have a vague recollection of someone writing a script using MediaMonkey to do this. But, I'm not 100% sure whether that was to keep the iPod OF ratings, or the ratings in MediaMonkey's database. It's in their forum though. 23.25.38 # Bob_C: not really. I didnt found a way around that last mci_delay() in send_cmd(), but at least we can say for sure it works nice for reading/writing with only that last delay. 23.26.05 # thanks evilnick_B ill try to track that down 23.26.52 # domonoky1: ok, thanks, I'll try the same 23.33.11 Quit Tomers (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.41.20 Quit AaronM (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.41.48 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 23.42.13 Join AaronM [0] (n=Aaron@adsl-4-232-113.mem.bellsouth.net) 23.45.34 Quit Omlet05 ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 23.45.35 Quit Omlet ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 23.46.27 Quit phanboy4 ("Leaving")