--- Log for 05.11.109 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 16 hours ago 00.00.23 # rasher: I can't delete the 2nd PlainBigAA (for e200) theme 00.00.41 # I guess the guy got like 4 mails now 00.01.00 Join AaronM [0] (n=Aaron@adsl-4-241-157.mem.bellsouth.net) 00.03.29 Quit Casainho (Remote closed the connection) 00.03.52 # arent they dfkt's themes ? 00.04.01 # kugel: (cant look at the diff right now unfortunatly.. so feel free to tell me to shut up untill i can)... and what happens if the setting doesnt exist? this is the same damn problem as sizing it :) 00.04.24 # the setting always exists 00.04.47 # it's what the UI vp has in its fields, global settings if "-" 00.05.25 # we'll argue this in a few hours :) 00.05.32 # * JdGordon| needs to erwview the code 00.07.52 # mc2739: it actually did help, which is surprising. 00.08.03 # * gitster thanks mc2739 anyway. 00.09.01 Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 00.10.11 # New commit by 03lenzone10 (r23528): Spoken correction for OUTro value in SKIPLENGTH function. 00.10.28 Part domonoky 00.13.05 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 00.13.33 Quit evilnick_B ("Page closed") 00.14.02 Quit HBK (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.14.03 Nick KBH is now known as HBK (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 00.14.52 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 00.15.35 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 00.20.48 # ARGH 00.21.27 Quit liar (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.21.49 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 00.21.56 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 00.25.07 Quit Slasheri (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.25.07 NSplit lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.25.07 Quit jon-kha (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.25.07 Quit Hadaka (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.25.07 Quit shodanX (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.25.07 Quit YPSY (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.25.08 Join shodanX_ [0] (n=shodanX@jazz.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) 00.25.44 Join Ypsy_ [0] (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 00.26.22 # rasher: I hope that wasn't related to my message 00.27.21 # oh, no.. hm 00.27.36 Quit Stephen__ ("Leaving") 00.29.14 # kugel: I assume it's the first one you want to delete? 00.29.24 # (rather than the one with 1.1 in the name) 00.30.09 Join Naked [0] (n=naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.30.17 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (n=naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.30.19 # rasher: uhm which one has 1.1 in the name? 00.30.41 # kugel: In the file name. The one which isn't at the top of the list 00.31.31 # the 2nd one was a bug fix version, I copied description and name and wanted to delete the one that was uploaded first. but I can't somehow 00.32.32 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 00.32.55 # What happens? 00.32.59 # nothing 00.33.13 # So if we're lucky, it didn't send a mail :) 00.33.20 # It shouldn't have, iirc 00.33.37 # I check delete and enter the text, then I click on "update all themes". then I get the same page as if nothing happened 00.34.04 # i.e. the way I used to delete several other themes just fine 00.34.50 # Yes indeed. Interesting. 00.35.52 Quit GeekShadow (Connection timed out) 00.36.09 # maybe it's due that it has the very same name and/or description now? 00.37.12 # No, it's something weirder 00.38.05 # It never even gets to the point where it checks if any theme needs changing status 00.38.52 Quit stripwax (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.40.02 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 00.43.00 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 00.43.15 # This is either a php or a firefox thing. It wasn't setting a post parameter for the submit button, which is what I was using to detect this action 00.43.19 # Fixed, and removed. 00.44.27 Quit funman ("free(random());") 00.44.29 # New commit by 03rob (r23529): Ensure touchscreen calibration setting is saved after change or reset. 00.45.52 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.48.39 Quit Lynx_ (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!") 00.53.00 Join Rand_Althor [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-76-250-141-69.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 00.54.03 Quit mcuelenaere () 00.54.31 # Did anyone ever fix the Midi plugin (so that different patch sets can be used?) 00.55.54 # rasher: I'm using chrome 00.56.20 # thanks for looking into it 00.56.22 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 00.57.33 # I guess something changed somewhere in the php/apache stack 00.57.39 # New commit by 03rob (r23530): Fix hiding the status bar in the touchscreen calibration screen. 00.57.42 Quit ender` (" I was in the grocery store. I saw a sign that said "pet supplies." So I did. Then I went outside and saw a sign that said "") 00.57.43 Join evilnick_BS [0] (i=620ec27e@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 01.04.02 Part froggyman 01.05.33 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.05.37 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.05.42 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 01.05.42 Quit bubsy () 01.05.43 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.05.43 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.05.47 Join bubsy [0] (n=bubsy@94.139.72.137) 01.06.03 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.07.04 # amiconn: that breaks anything that treats a pointer to enum as int *, and that is likely to be rather a lot of places. 01.08.12 NHeal (timeout) lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.10.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.11.10 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 01.12.41 # Didn't there used to be a "Last twelve months" link on the front page (for commits)? 01.16.00 Quit AEnima1577 ("Leaving.") 01.16.14 # i don't see any way, with short enums, to be able to set some enum-based value via a pointer without it being a pointer to a manually selected int of the right size, unless we use ints with enum values, and then there seems to be little point in having short enums. 01.16.25 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 01.16.54 # we *could* flag enums as unpacked, manually, whenever pointers to them need to be taken? 01.22.02 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.35.54 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.36.04 Quit Rand_Althor ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 01.37.56 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@host94-182-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.44.41 Part toffe82 01.45.15 Quit aaron424 (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.58 Join daggett [0] (n=denis@modemcable158.53-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) 01.49.23 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 01.53.14 Join AEnima15771 [0] (n=clbarnob@h80ad23bb.async.vt.edu) 01.55.14 # kugel: disabling short enums gets me what appears to be a worknig build! if we want the space savings for short enums in the majority of RB, i guess we could change variables that will be pointed to to ints, and continue assigning them enum values. 01.55.46 Join bzed_ [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 01.59.35 Quit bzed (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.59.35 Nick bzed_ is now known as bzed (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 02.04.57 Quit darkham ("Sto andando via") 02.06.16 Join JeremyB796 [0] (n=43f9d274@giant.haxx.se) 02.06.56 Join BOBdotEXE [0] (n=BOBdotEX@pool-70-108-143-30.washdc.btas.verizon.net) 02.07.25 # Is there a rockbox firmware avalible for the creative zen moziac? 02.07.52 # Is there a rockbox firmware avalible for the creative zen moziac? 02.08.02 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 02.08.22 # so, on the theme's page of rockbox, some of the screenshots contain album art; is'nt that copywright content??? 02.08.53 Quit JeremyB796 (Client Quit) 02.09.52 Quit AEnima1577 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.11.00 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.17.07 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 02.17.11 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.20.02 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 02.21.10 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-208-155.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.22.33 # BOBdotEXE, possibly covered under fair use? 02.26.28 # i guess... 02.26.53 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 02.27.32 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@c-68-62-19-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.30.14 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.33.46 # hey, is there any way to edit an uploaded theme, I made my background color the same as text color, :( 02.36.03 Join Bob_C_ [0] (n=chatzill@host86-144-201-0.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 02.36.11 # that was silly :) 02.36.28 # and no.. you need to upload it again and get one of the admins to remove the old one (apparently) 02.37.47 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 02.43.28 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.43.33 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@c-68-62-19-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.43.36 # oh... 02.45.07 Quit BOBdotEXE ("MegaIRC v4.05 http://ironfist.at.tut.by") 02.45.17 Quit Bob_C (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.47.07 # hrm, the corelock_* functions seem to compile identically under eabi, with the exception of corelock_init, which differs only in how memset is called (via a stub vs direct long call) 02.47.42 Quit dmb ("Leaving") 02.51.34 Quit daggett ("Ex-Chat") 02.51.37 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@99-203-244-123.pools.spcsdns.net) 03.02.50 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 03.04.37 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 03.05.38 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.10.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.06 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.18.00 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! 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jds2001 [0] (n=jds2001@fedora/jds2001) 04.49.12 Quit evilnick_BS (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 04.52.00 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.57.40 Join froggyman [0] (n=4845dcc2@giant.haxx.se) 05.01.40 Join brn2dth [0] (n=chatzill@63.245.17.10) 05.10.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.14.29 Quit froggyman ("CGI:IRC") 05.16.20 # g'night to allz 05.16.29 Quit AaronM (Remote closed the connection) 05.25.52 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.32.01 Join ShapeShifter499 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-68-121-53-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 05.32.48 # hi 05.33.47 # I'm trying to build the newest version of the Rockbox Installer for Linux and I keep getting this error, look at bottom, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/310236/ 05.34.01 # what am I doing wrong 05.34.03 # ? 05.35.19 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 05.35.47 # Project ERROR: Qt >= 4.3 required! 05.35.55 # looks like you need to upgrade qtdev 05.36.04 # how? 05.36.37 Part brn2dth 05.36.41 # I have the latest version Qt 05.37.05 # qmake-qt4 05.37.09 # run that instead of qmake 05.37.15 # I did 05.37.24 # I get the same error 05.37.33 # then i'm out of ideas 05.37.45 # bluebrother: might now, but very likely in the land of nod 05.38.02 # is version 4.5.3 in ubuntu good ? 05.38.31 # no idea, I havnt built rbutil in months... 05.39.14 # I need it because the newer version has support for my nano 2gen 05.40.06 # and I'd like to try it out 05.40.22 # can anyone here build it for me? 05.41.00 # Rockbox can be installed without rbutil 05.41.12 # I know... 05.41.27 Quit Strife89 ("My number of files is OVER 9000!") 05.42.26 # still 05.47.03 # The two that know the most about rbutil are bluebrother and domonoky. 05.49.37 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.54.00 # kugel: hm, now it seems that short enums suffices to get me a fully working eabi rockbox build on e200... 05.54.08 # sorry, long enums. obviously. :) 06.02.55 # anyone ever done any usb sniffing before? 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Afaik SH1 uses short enums as well with -Os, and that's what we're compiling with 07.53.57 # amiconn: short enums are broken if you try to set them via some function that takes an int* and uses it to access them by address - this could overwrite 2 or 3 bytes if the enum is byte or halfword-sized, and could also trigger an unaligned access. 07.54.21 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 07.54.30 # I understand that. Where are we doing this, and why do those places not use a proper pointer? 07.56.11 # It can't be that many places, or hwcodec rockbox would crash all the time... 07.56.34 # we must be doing something like that *somewhere* - everything started working on my e200 with short enums disabled. 07.57.00 # either that or we have asm code that assumes int-sized enums 07.57.38 # So this needs to be checked and fixed 07.58.25 # Pointers to an enum need to be defined as that, and "enum foo" is a different type than "enum bar" 08.00.53 # any idea how best to find that, besides very lengthy manual search? :/ 08.16.18 # you'd *think* we'd have some warnings for any instance of (int *)(&enum_var)...but i only see link warnings about enum size incompatibilities between RB objects and libgcc ones, since this is no-short-enums libgcc. and when i *had* short enums in libgcc and in RB, it was crashing. 08.18.34 # fwiw we also still have a rather large size savings on e200 without short enums. rockbox-info.txt shows a binary size difference of 63488B, that probably can't all be *just* from long-call veneers. 08.25.20 # Explicit casts don't cause warnings, because the compiler assumes that the programmer knows what he's doing 08.27.11 # I can only think of two ways which may make the search a little easier. (1) grep for 'enum', then check which ones actually define variables (or types which are later used to define variables), then check whether there are places which take a pointer to them 08.27.59 # (2) Check which places are taking pointers to variables with a cast, then check whether these variables are enums 08.28.57 # Disabling short enums for eabi doesn't solve the underlying problem 08.30.04 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.33.05 # * JdGordon has the usb sniffer out and has no idea what he's doing [wrong] 08.33.48 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host248-201-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.34.35 Quit beta2k (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.34.45 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 08.44.05 Quit TheSeven (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.44.33 # i understand that. the fact that doing so makes it work suggests that enum size assumptions are *likely* to be our problem. 08.46.10 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.48.22 # hrm, i thought -Wcast-align might help, but naturally that triggers on a million other things we do all over the place 08.50.19 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.56.48 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCD6C.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.59.43 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 09.03.20 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 09.04.28 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.04.54 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.07.02 # hrm, i suppose an enum that's not named or typedef'd can pretty much be assumed safe, as there's no way to create a variable of that type? 09.07.10 Join petur [0] (n=petur@ip-212-239-214-166.dsl-static.scarlet.be) 09.10.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.15.16 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 09.15.51 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.16.36 Quit reid04 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.17.52 # hrm, another option might be building with short enums disabled, and marking individual enum definitions as packed. a binary search could be done by marking half of them at a time to locate the ones triggering the crash - although this might leave things un-found if they're wrong but don't lead to crashes. 09.20.36 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 09.22.31 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.42.57 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.58.28 # JdGordon: what's your timeframe for this skinnable recordingscreen? 09.58.57 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@77-99-223-115.cable.ubr16.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.59.01 Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@s168c.studby.ntnu.no) 10.00.21 Quit FlynDice (Remote closed the connection) 10.00.42 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 10.03.40 # brb 10.05.17 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 10.07.14 Join B4gder [0] (n=dast@giant.haxx.se) 10.10.06 # New commit by 03roolku (r23531): RTC read of ds1339 of ds3231 weekday ... 10.13.23 Quit AEnima15771 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.51.23 Part LinusN 10.53.31 Join beta2k_ [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 10.59.31 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 10.59.33 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 11.08.57 Quit beta2k (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.10.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.16.11 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.29.25 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 11.29.45 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.31.27 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 11.59.21 Quit roolku () 12.05.10 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.09.34 Quit beta2k_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.09.45 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 12.57.37 Join swilde [0] (n=wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 13.03.54 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 13.08.32 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-93-155.net.novis.pt) 13.09.28 # hello :-) -- what is the other IRC channel? I want to ask something not about Rockbox dev 13.09.59 # #rockbox-community ? 13.10.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.13.35 # topik: thanks ;-) 13.14.16 # and topic thanks ;-) 13.15.06 # B4gder: ah nice the topic, I will never forget again ;-) 13.29.20 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133112132.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 13.43.54 Join beta2k_ [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 14.15.39 Quit beta2k (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.16.03 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.19.43 Part B4gder 14.22.39 # Could I ask for some general opinion on http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23100.0 in the forum itself? Thanks! 14.30.53 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm46.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 14.47.18 Quit seani ("Leaving") 14.52.41 Part LinusN 14.56.18 Join adiroiban [0] (n=adiroiba@h194-54-129-79.teleson.ro) 14.58.45 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 15.06.24 Quit teru ("Quit") 15.07.55 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-4-146-40.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 15.10.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.21.40 # audio_ff_rewind in playback.c; is "newpos" an absolute position or a relative jump? 15.25.30 Join Omlet [0] (i=omlet05@91.182.46.29) 15.25.31 Join Omlet05 [0] (i=omlet05@91.182.46.29) 15.25.55 Quit Casainho (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.28.59 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-178-138.net.novis.pt) 15.33.50 Join evilnick_B [0] (i=0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.45.58 Quit einhirn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.47.44 # that's a yes. Must remember it doesn't matter if I just do it anyway, I'm only breaking my build :-) 15.53.25 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.56.26 Quit Omlet05 ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 15.56.27 Quit Omlet (Client Quit) 16.01.06 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.05.48 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.06.48 Join fred_ [0] (n=fred@pool-70-104-101-195.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.07.18 Nick fred_ is now known as Guest75533 (n=fred@pool-70-104-101-195.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.07.23 Quit Guest75533 (Remote closed the connection) 16.08.05 Join Naked [0] (n=naked@naked.iki.fi) 16.08.23 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (n=naked@naked.iki.fi) 16.08.33 Join freddyb [0] (n=fred@pool-70-104-101-195.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.16.15 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 16.17.26 # I want to post a scroll wheel keyboard patch on Flyspray and I wanted to ask here before I do it. I made a patch for my Sansa Fuze that greatly improves keyboard entry speed by using a quick and intuitive scrollwheel entry method. The entry letter is chosen by scrolling forward, which selects the column, and then by scrolling back, which selects the row. Scrolling forward inserts the letter and resets the column and row for the 16.17.27 # next letter. It's fast. 16.20.05 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.26.01 Join reid02 [0] (n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.26.38 # * n1s wonders if anyone has any thoughts on introducing a config-sim.h header that does all the sim specific #undefs etc to avoid all the #ifdef SIMULATOR things in the target configs, and bring some lovely consistency? 16.27.03 # freddyb: I'd just post it. It sounds interesting 16.27.31 # n1s: that at least sounds like it could be worth a try 16.33.53 Quit Casainho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.34.13 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87.196.65.10) 16.37.03 # gevaerts: OK, I'll put it up and see if it draws any attention. 16.41.37 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8EB87.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.47.46 # n1s: that sounds very reasonable 16.50.05 # ok, i'll give it a shot then 16.52.37 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 16.53.00 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 16.55.14 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.01.09 # New commit by 03moos (r23532): Updated french translation. 17.02.20 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.239.253) 17.02.55 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 17.07.31 Quit beta2k_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.10.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.21.13 # New commit by 03moos (r23533): Update the portugues-brasileiro translation. ... 17.30.34 Quit Zagor ("Don't panic") 17.32.15 Quit toffe82 (Remote closed the connection) 17.40.50 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 17.42.34 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 17.44.01 # New commit by 03moos (r23534): Update the czech translation. ... 17.50.38 # New commit by 03moos (r23535): My bad, Pavel wasn't on the credit yet, then add him for the translation. 17.52.08 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 17.58.56 Quit Casainho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.01.24 # New commit by 03nls (r23536): Fix same bug as in r23531 in two more drivers (wrong masking of wday) 18.01.32 Quit beta2k (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.01.43 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d24-36-68-97.home1.cgocable.net) 18.03.06 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@91-164-180-104.rev.libertysurf.net) 18.06.47 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.07.40 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.08.20 Join bubsy_ [0] (n=bubsy@94.139.72.137) 18.10.28 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@85.105.27.20) 18.14.53 Quit Strife89 ("Going to lunch.") 18.15.44 Quit AEnima1577 ("Leaving.") 18.18.47 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.24.12 Quit bubsy (Operation timed out) 18.24.45 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.24 Quit swilde ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 18.26.53 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.31.31 Join Blue_Dude [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/Blue-Dude) 18.32.37 # New commit by 03blue_dude (r23537): pcmbuf: better latency calculation, added debug code 18.33.34 Join Ayshara [0] (n=62e40e25@giant.haxx.se) 18.34.00 # Hello having a problem getting the bootloader to install 18.34.07 # *i'm 18.34.17 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 18.35.16 # Ayshara: you need to give us more details than that 18.37.21 # I can't transfer the bootloader over manually to the .system folder, it gives me an i/o error and when I try to do it automaticly it doesn't show up in said folder 18.38.12 # It says it installed correctly when I run rbutil, but I have no clue where it's going exactly 18.39.53 # I thought I solved this problem yesterday but I went to start up my h10 and it gave me the same 'please install the original firmware' message so I took a look 18.41.32 # The bootloader somehow disappeared in the last few hours 18.43.01 # so erm, any clue what's going on? 18.43.15 # * Ayshara doesn't have one 18.43.47 # did you check the disk with checkdisk or similar ? 18.44.05 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 18.44.34 # I am running ubuntu 9.10 18.45.23 # and I don't know of anything similar -_- 18.49.33 # fsck.vfat ? 18.51.04 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@233-196.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 18.52.40 # checking now 18.54.01 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.54.18 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 18.58.31 # Disc usage isn't giving me anything 19.01.09 Join SuperMouton [0] (n=Supermou@mic92-1-82-67-159-107.fbx.proxad.net) 19.04.44 # Hi :) 19.05.02 # Lot of pple here :) 19.05.49 # but no one talking ? :( 19.07.15 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 19.08.10 # i'm attempting to run fsck.vfat 19.08.16 # with little success 19.08.34 # gratz 19.08.57 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 19.10.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.13.12 Join Besitzer [0] (n=chatzill@dslb-084-057-141-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.13.25 # hmm this is frustraiting 19.13.37 # it says it can't find the device 19.13.55 # so sad :( 19.14.04 # using fsck.vfat -r /media/h10 19.14.18 # If you use the keyboard a lot would you please check out freddyb's FS#10763 and leave some feedback, I think he's got a good idea but I hardly ever use the keyboard.... 19.14.58 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.15.12 # Hey, does rockbox go only on the supported systems, or go it like linux on other systems to? 19.15.26 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.15.29 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 19.17.17 # Besitzer: Rockbox is a replacement firmware for DAP's. It's not an application. 19.17.22 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.17.28 # Besitzer: rockbox only works on the devices listed on the homepage. mp3players are not a computer. 19.17.48 # I really want to get this working because I cannot go back to the original firmware 19.17.53 # I know, but i want to know if i can put it on my odys too? 19.17.53 Join sampattuzzi [0] (n=sampattu@88-106-190-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 19.18.12 # ,tto 19.18.16 # ,too 19.18.32 # Besitzer: if it's listed on the homepage, you can do it. If not, you can't. 19.18.36 # no, we don't have rockbox for odys players AFAIK 19.19.41 # Ok where can i slating my MP3-player model for making compatible? 19.20.11 # Yes i know, thanks!^^ 19.20.18 # I'm not sure why the device can't be found, I can see it at /media/H10 19.22.01 # erm this is odd now 19.22.30 # I got it found but it just says /media/H10 is a directory and nothing else 19.22.47 # O.o 19.23.00 # Ok where can i slating my MP3-player model for making compatible? 19.23.24 # Ayshara: /media/H10 is the mount point, not the device 19.23.38 # Or are there other projekts like rockbox? 19.24.09 # Besitzer, what do you mean by slating? 19.24.32 # As far as my slang goes, slating is a severe critique 19.24.40 # stating maybe? 19.24.57 # to propose 19.25.03 # To make it work, a volunteer with the technical knowledge (knowing C and preferably embedded software) has to take time to work on it 19.25.28 # Besitzer, what bertrik said 19.25.52 # and where i find a volunter? 19.26.06 # rockbox ports aren't done on request 19.26.17 # Besitzer, you could be the volunteer :P 19.26.25 # volunteer 19.26.32 # gevaerts: So what am I supposed to put instead? 19.27.04 # I cant C im at time beginning to learn Java in school... 19.27.25 # I'm 19.27.29 # can't 19.27.42 # Besitzer, it's a lot of work, it can easily take a year to do a rockbox port 19.28.07 # Besitzer, get a player that's compatable with rockbox if you can't make the port yourself 19.28.26 # Besitzer, if you have a lot of money you could hire somebody to do the port? 19.28.36 # have somebody a odys x29fm? 19.30.02 # When i would had a lots of money i would buy me a player whos compatible!^^ 19.30.17 # What is the cheapest player of them? 19.30.33 # Besitzer look on ebay for a H10 20gb 19.30.47 # They're going for cheap 19.30.48 Quit adiroiban (Connection timed out) 19.30.54 # Ayshara: the device node 19.31.21 # Which is? 19.31.36 Quit freddyb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.33.46 # have the archos player an blackwhite screen? 19.35.04 # gevaerts: what's the device node? 19.35.17 # speek somebody german? 19.35.22 # Ayshara: Presumably you can google 19.37.59 # would i kill my player when i do a not compatible rockboxversion on it? 19.39.46 # Besitzer: you simply _can't_ install it if its not compatible. 19.39.58 # Most likely the player would simply ignore the files you put on it. 19.40.00 # Evil: google turns up nothing 19.40.05 # ok 19.41.06 # Ayshara: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=what+is+a+%22device+node%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi= 19.41.09 # First result 19.42.09 Join adiroiban [0] (n=adiroiba@h194-54-129-79.teleson.ro) 19.42.45 # ok bb, thankssssssssssssssss 19.43.03 # Ayshara: just search wikipedia for "device node" ... 19.46.54 Join TheSeven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.48.34 Quit Besitzer ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 19.49.32 # Could someone clear up use of current_tick for me? Can I reliably get a time difference in seconds with (my_tick_var - current_tick) / HZ ? Or am I missing some other required scaling? 19.50.03 # I'm looking at /dev/ and I'm not seeing sd1 now 19.50.07 # And a a bonus question, what do I call to get some console debug output in the simulator? Ta! 19.50.24 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.51.19 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@nc6521341.cns.vt.edu) 19.52.49 # Ooh, that should be (current_tick - my_tick_var) / HZ but the principle stands (or falls) 19.53.13 # seani, yes I think you can do that, taking the difference with some earlier time should be able to handle a wrap in current_tick 19.53.29 # (although the wrap takes a really long time) 19.54.12 # Ta, and I see that DEBUGF gives me fun and games at the console? 19.54.18 # there are macros for comparing times, TIME_AFTER and TIME_BEFORE IIRC 19.54.58 # Ok, macros it is, thanks 19.56.32 Join freddyb [0] (n=fred@pool-70-104-101-195.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.57.03 # yes TIME_AFTER and TIME_BEFORE should be used, they take care of the wrapping. 19.57.36 # the microsecond timer on your device would probably be better unless you're timing a really long interval 19.57.48 # the wrap takes about 49.71 days 19.59.24 # oh, I calculated 497.1 days (assuming HZ = 100) 19.59.39 # hm, why did I think 1000... 19.59.56 # windows tick wrap is 49 days... 19.59.59 # * Bagder is wrong 20.00.12 # yes, ms wraps in that time but HZ is 100 20.00.12 # anyway, takes too long to reproduce :P 20.01.12 # I bet not that many rockbox devices have run more than 49.7 days straight 20.01.49 # just wait until someone implements suspend 20.02.16 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 20.02.18 # that shouldn't keep counting ticks at 100HZ though ;-) 20.03.03 # 497 days is enough for anyone, you can quote me on that 20.03.20 # Bagder: maybe not while suspended 20.04.02 # total runtime will be a lot more though 20.04.13 # Bob_C_: but will 100Hz be enough for anyone? 20.04.41 # Ayshara: /dev/sd1 is definitely not what you're looking for. Linux uses /dev/sd 20.04.57 # gevaerts, you need at least 200 Hz for doom! 20.05.32 # Ayshara: mount should tell you which one you need, if it's currently mounted. Don't forget to unmount before running fsck though 20.07.21 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@233-196.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.07.30 # gevaerts: 10ms is a long time... 20.10.54 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.12.19 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g229113229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.12.35 Quit AEnima1577 ("Leaving.") 20.14.48 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.16.59 Quit domonoky (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.18.27 # markun, I have sdram working on the meizu m6sp 20.20.40 Quit sampattuzzi (Remote closed the connection) 20.22.23 # My requirements are modest, I just need to tell if 5 seconds have elapsed since I last checked. But it could go as high as 10. Still a fair bit of headroom. 20.23.03 # TIME_AFTER is your friend 20.24.35 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.24.45 # * gevaerts still thinks that making this timeout based is wrong :) 20.24.50 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.25.57 # Bagder, all good now thanks. I couldn't see a macro for adding ticks so I'm using my_tick_var = current_tick + (5 * HZ) for eg. 20.26.10 # that works fine 20.27.07 # Who do I report gevaerts to? He's oppressing me (but really it's not quite what you think, and just a test in any case :-)) 20.27.52 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@233-196.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.28.04 # gevaerts is the master controlling all us bots in here, he can't be reported! 20.28.22 # Gack, foiled. 20.30.24 Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@s168c.studby.ntnu.no) 20.30.25 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-9bdb6b63b918e08d) 20.30.32 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@nc65217cb.cns.vt.edu) 20.33.12 Quit Ayshara ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.34.01 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.40.16 Nick Ypsy_ is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.42.10 Join kravlin [0] (n=kravlin@unaffiliated/kravlin) 20.46.06 # Unhelpful: :/ the statusbar enum seems to be the only short-enum problem :/ 20.46.49 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.51.28 Quit SuperMouton (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.51.54 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.54.59 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-174-097-130-131.nc.res.rr.com) 20.55.04 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.03.31 # Unhelpful: nevermind, I was doin a single core build 21.03.38 # ogg doesn't work 21.04.20 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.08.06 Quit bubsy_ () 21.10.21 Join petur [0] (n=peter@d54C6F9B2.access.telenet.be) 21.10.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.12.23 Join JohnTeddy [0] (i=unstable@tor/regular/sid) 21.12.27 # Why can I charge my iPod video 850mAh battery when plugged into my laptop, with OF or RB software. But if I plug the device into my car and give it 5VDC over USB from my car, it does not charge using OF or RB software? 21.16.37 # Grr. Does anyone use crossfade? It seems more trouble than it's worth... 21.18.13 # kill it then :) 21.18.33 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.18.46 # (not really... you will be chased down by the rabbid mod that is our users if you did) 21.18.53 # some do (I remember the guy who made the scheme in the manual), I don't though 21.19.15 # Paging gevaerts (or anyone else who's interested) would you checkout my response at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23100.msg157921#msg157921 ? 21.20.23 # And is this Ok? I figure more specifically technical questions *here* references to general behaviour'y discussion *there* or is that bad form? Seemed too wordy to carry on here. 21.21.02 # Blue_Dude: I use it 95% of the time 21.21.46 # ok. I'm just in the process of sorting out playback/pcmbuf and crossfade is a real mess. 21.23.16 # I promise not to kill it though. 21.23.28 # Might lose some hair in the meantime. 21.23.43 # JohnTeddy: But if the cable works under OF/RB on your laptop and not in the car, then I'd say it's something to do with the difference in the power (not sure of the correct terms) 21.24.45 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@c-68-62-19-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.25.25 # evilnick_B: I am pretty sure they are both 5VDC I can check with a multimeter. Is it possible to charge your iPod video via card adapter? 21.26.06 # Is there some communication going on that would be necessary to start the charging? some USB standard communication, or maybe the device specifies how much current it wants. 21.26.20 # Has anyone in here charged their iPod video via car adapters? 21.26.21 # seani: I think what you write there makes sense. You still need to decide how to get in and out this mode of course :) 21.28.19 # JohnTeddy: I've used a wall charger on that ipod and it works fine (i.e. how it does for you when plugged into a PC) 21.28.31 # JohnTeddy: ipods do indeed only go to charge mode after some negotiation 21.28.40 Join kanderson [0] (n=user@c-174-51-1-28.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 21.28.53 # Blue_Dude: you're not the first one coming to that conclusion 21.29.39 # gevaerts: Aye, it's a puzzler. I might have a go at the quickscreen option. That's another load of stuff I don't understand, but all good fun. Would flicking in and out of binarysearch mode via that screen and resetting across boots be acceptable? 21.29.50 Quit GodEater ("Lost terminal") 21.30.05 # gevaerts: So do I need a special car adapter with some integrated circuit built in that will start the charging? 21.30.13 # kugel: I'm steadily picking at playback and pcmbuf to help unmessify them. 21.30.29 # JohnTeddy: I don't know the details. Possibly 21.30.46 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@91-164-180-104.rev.libertysurf.net) 21.30.51 # So the wall charger probably has some black chip (ic) that negotiates with the iPod in order to start the charging. 21.31.03 # Blue_Dude: nice! 21.31.04 # But my 'generic' car adapter does not have this functionality. 21.31.36 # JohnTeddy: I doubt it, as the one that I'm using is a non-Apple thing that wasn't even sold as being made for iPods. It is just a really generic black bit of plastic with an LED and a USB port! 21.31.37 # seani: I would use the context menu, not the quickscreen. Also, I think that going to normal mode on reboot is actually desirable 21.31.39 # I dont tihnk any of my ipiods ever have a problem charging from my car charger or wallcharger 21.32.57 # Is it possible to charge an iPod while it is playing music? 21.33.31 # JohnTeddy: Yes, check the manual for the correct button to hold when inserting the USB cable 21.33.31 # JohnTeddy: sure, just press the right button while you insert usb. 21.33.38 # see manual for the correct key. 21.33.59 # This is for OF or RB software? 21.34.05 # You can charge while playing music for both? 21.34.17 # rockbox ofcourse, we dont care about the OF :-) 21.34.24 # heh, ok 21.34.52 # domonoky1: So hold the right button, insert USB, then let go of the right button? 21.35.02 # gevaerts: Ok, thanks, I'll trot off and make sure I understand the difference - I don't use either very much (as far as I'm aware). And I guess that reset on boot means you don't have YABS to save away. 21.35.09 # jup, take a look at the manual.. 21.35.26 # seani: exactly 21.36.03 # JohnTeddy: I *think* it's the menu button, but it's been a while since I've used RB on an iPod...(!) 21.36.26 # pamaury: could you open a flyspray task for MTP? I think it would be useful to have a single place to put comments 21.37.12 # Yes I can, should I ajust dd a link to github or post the code also (seems weird) ? 21.37.36 # for now I think a link to github is best 21.38.11 # I noticed a few unrelated changes in the mtp branch there though 21.38.32 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.39.31 # really ? Which ones ? I only modified slightly usb core 21.39.38 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 21.40.18 # I think something in config-e200.h and a wps thing. 21.40.30 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 21.40.55 # Maybe it would help if you rebase it to a current revision. That shouldn't be too hard I suspect 21.41.52 Join AaronM [0] (n=Aaron@adsl-4-241-157.mem.bellsouth.net) 21.41.52 # Ah yes you right, I modified congig-e200.h for multivolume but the code currently only support one volume. But I don't see the change about wps. Wait a minute. 21.42.42 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 21.43.31 Quit Grahack (Client Quit) 21.43.58 # What is the command to rebase to current revision (I forgot it each time, to avoid looking at the man) ? 21.44.15 # git svn rebase ? 21.44.19 # gevaerts: done: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10764. 21.44.25 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.44.43 # gevaerts: Should I say more things in the description ? 21.45.30 # pixelma: I think the important things are there. Maybe you could summarise the status a bit though (i.e. what works, what doesn't, what never will...) 21.45.41 # oops 21.45.44 # pamaury: I think the important things are there. Maybe you could summarise the status a bit though (i.e. what works, what doesn't, what never will...) 21.45.54 Quit AEnima1577 ("Leaving.") 21.45.56 Quit kravlin (Remote closed the connection) 21.46.14 # ugggg does anyone else have a problem with iloader/rockbox on the 2g going into 'Use iTunes to restore' mode over simple things (battery dying, restarting with menu + select, ect. ect. ) 21.47.37 # gevaerts: having definite issues with USB on this Gigabeat S 21.48.05 # gevaerts: interesting, some time ago you didn't think it was a good idea to link to my git repo instead of posting patches 21.48.57 # kugel: it depends on the state. I definitely prefer real patches for commit candidates 21.49.23 # GodEater: what sort of issues? 21.50.39 Join Reggy_L [0] (i=58553899@gateway/web/freenode/x-ea41e3bf1b54b679) 21.51.41 # * pamaury is doing svn rebase and it's long...... 21.54.07 # How can i convert videos for rockbox ? 21.54.30 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 21.54.47 # How can i convert videos for rockbox running on an Ipod Classic 5th generation ? ** 21.54.58 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 21.55.08 # Reggy_L: I would try winff myself... 21.55.36 # gevaerts: there is a problem is the github history of mtp branch: if I apply the patches iteratively, it doesn't work because at several points there have been inconsistency with pcc1. What can I do about it ? 21.55.38 # Im running Ubuntu 21.55.47 # me to.... 21.55.52 # Reggy_L: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer might help. Also, please don't confuse things by calling the 5th gen "Classic" :) 21.56.14 # gevaerts: is it not calles Classic ? 21.56.23 # called* 21.56.23 # pamaury: good question, I'm not a git expert... 21.56.27 # Reggy_L: It's available for linux 21.57.19 # Reggy_L: it's a bit confused. "Classic" (with a capital C) definitely is only 6th gen and later. Some people like to call all "big" ipods classic though, but we prefer not to do that 21.57.19 # gevaerts: doh. Ahem. Player ran out of juice. 21.58.02 # Ok 22.00.42 # domonoky1: i wondered one thing about those macros... afaict they won't be correct if you compare values "on eiter side" of a wrap so if the value you compare current_tick is before the wrap and current_tick wraps 22.03.44 # has something happened to genlang? it returned me a file full of empty tags 22.04.19 # petur: that could explain some of those weird LANG_* related build failures 22.04.58 # I get a 19KB file where I expect a 200KB one 22.05.28 # is it reproducible? 22.05.43 # at the moment, yes 22.05.43 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@nc652125b.cns.vt.edu) 22.06.30 # I did upgrade to ubuntu 9.10, maybe it is related 22.07.14 # if it is, that would be really interesting to know 22.07.20 # * petur adds -v 22.07.46 # that helped :( 22.07.55 # -v outputs *nothing* 22.08.13 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 22.08.36 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.08.46 # let me try another system (also 9.10, sadly) 22.09.52 # -v or V=1? 22.10.02 # -v 22.10.34 # same for -V or -v=1 or -V=1 22.10.49 # oh, ignore me there. I thought you were still running it through make 22.12.02 # ah, interesting... there's more than empty tags. At some point it lists a whole lot of 'untranslated' entries correctly 22.12.17 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.12.48 Quit AEnima1577 ("Leaving.") 22.12.59 # my other PC does the exact same thing 22.15.19 # we probably need Bagder for this? 22.17.42 # arggg 22.17.53 # getting panic on an eabi build on the fuze 22.18.43 # shuoldnt the build page say "All 3160 builds are OK"? 22.20.10 # petur: how exactly are you reproducing this? 22.20.15 # * gevaerts wants to have a go as well 22.20.36 # in the lang dir: ../../tools/genlang -u -e=english.lang nederlands.lang > nederlands2.lang 22.20.48 # as documented in the wiki 22.20.51 # kugel: isn't it fun :) 22.21.29 # * gevaerts looks for rasher 22.21.53 # ah, right, our langfile specialist ;) 22.22.15 # he'll probably say I should use his site to translate 22.22.16 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 22.22.33 # No, I'll say I know very little about genlang and refer to Bagder 22.22.54 # does it still work for you? 22.23.18 # perl version = 5.10.0 22.24.33 # Nope, looks rather broken. Outputs a bunch of 22.24.42 # same as here then 22.24.47 # doesnt genlang also need the features ? 22.24.49 # And then missing phrases 22.24.53 # Not for -u 22.25.12 # ah, right.. 22.25.44 # since genlang is unmodified since a good while back, I suggest a recent .lang edit somehow broke this 22.26.22 # genlang last changed 2 weeks ago by midgey34 22.26.32 # ah 22.26.38 # I forgot that 22.26.46 # and 4 weeks ago by tomers 22.26.59 # but hasn't it worked for that long time? 22.27.17 # haven't used it for months 22.28.50 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@233-196.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 22.28.54 # it broke between 22000 and 23000 22.30.17 # was just going to say that the 8 month old version still worked 22.30.42 # 20187 is OK 22.30.52 # r22945 broke it 22.30.55 # RTL support in menus 22.30.59 Join webguest10 [0] (n=d46e8b0c@giant.haxx.se) 22.32.11 Quit webguest10 (Client Quit) 22.33.09 # Ok I've added a context menu setting for my test "Binary Search Mode" for navigating within very long tracks. Any suggestions for a less geeky phrase to describe skipping about in a long track using a binary search? "Long Track Search Mode"? 22.33.55 # it also works in a short track, right? 22.34.06 # (even though it's not needed there) 22.34.24 # and we all know it is a search mode 22.34.32 # Torne: other sd drivers work. the errors come from the error bits of the controller :/ 22.34.55 # petur: you mean, give it an empty string as a name? 22.35.04 # * gevaerts thinks that that might be confusing for new users 22.35.07 # kugel: fun 22.35.38 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.35.53 # rasher: That move of "undef @phrase;" in genlang looks odd to me... 22.36.11 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 22.37.48 # I'm really not the right guy to talk to 22.38.38 # I was thinking you might want to try moving it back and see what happens. 22.38.42 # * petur directs Lear to Bagder 22.38.57 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.39.07 # moving it back seems to help 22.39.10 # gevaerts: yes fair point. "Fast Search" or "Fast Seek" or "Fast Skip" seems to suggest that the current accelerated search isn't fast. Mind you, "Party Mode" works whether you're having a party or not? It seems descriptive of the typical use-case. 22.39.15 # At least the size is right again 22.39.50 # party mode only works when you have a party 22.39.58 Quit dfkt (Nick collision from services.) 22.39.58 # it is fun to debug ;) 22.40.01 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.40.24 # seani: I usually give up on features because I can't think of a good name for them :) 22.40.59 # I bow to your greater experience. No wonder Test Driven Development has taken off in some quarters. 22.41.02 # how about rocksearch :-) 22.41.24 # * petur hits domonoky1 with whatever he can find 22.41.24 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 22.42.58 # petur: can you test if moving 'undef @phrase' from line 554 to line 546 works? The output file is big again, but I'm not sure if it's really correct 22.43.34 # I'm translating already right now (using genlang r20187) 22.43.45 # I'll check after the commit 22.46.31 # kugel: i was kind of wondering, too... there aren't a *lot* of global-level enum variables that i've found so far, which is what i'd expect for anything that's passed as a pointer... the other thing to check is any enums passed as a pointer, even to the correct type, to asm functions, since the asm clearly needs to assume a size. probably asmdefs could be extended to handle these cases as they're found, instead of just special-casing them. 22.47.17 # Unhelpful: well, the build really works with only the global_settings member fixed 22.47.54 # nevertheless I was running a single core build (multi-core build still doesN't work) 22.48.14 # kugel: really? it seemed to me that multi-core worked correctly when i built with long enums. 22.48.55 Join dfkt_ [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.50.11 # are you sure? 22.50.26 Quit dfkt (Nick collision from services.) 22.50.34 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.54.25 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=Lynx@xdsl-87-79-161-249.netcologne.de) 22.56.03 Join AEnima1577 [0] (n=clbarnob@nc6521397.cns.vt.edu) 22.56.30 # what is Makeup Gain? 22.57.30 # * Torne tries to think up a facetious answer involving people who wear too much makeup 22.57.43 # petur: in compressor? 22.57.48 # so does google translate ;) 22.57.51 # yes 22.57.57 # gain restoration 22.58.10 # is that the final gain after compressing? 22.58.39 # it is gain restoration after compression 22.58.46 # gotcha 22.59.39 # New commit by 03blue_dude (r23538): pcmbuf: clarify and simplify crossfade code, etc. 23.00.25 # GodEater: ping 23.00.50 # kugel: fairly sure, patching so that the default is always long enums is fairly easy, and i'm pretty sure i did a clean build without FORCE_SINGLE_CORE after that... 23.01.07 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 23.01.14 # without? 23.01.49 # fno-short-enums works without recompiling gcc? 23.03.09 # kugel: fno-short-enums works without recompiling gcc, but all of the libgcc objects are flagged as using short enums, so you get link warnings, and i also wanted to be certain that the warnings didn't represent any *real* problem... not that i expected to be passing enums to any libgcc functions. 23.07.37 Quit Blue_Dude ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 23.08.06 # Unhelpful: still not booting (without recompiling gcc 23.08.51 # perhaps i should add a libgcc with long enums as a multilib option 23.10.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.10.55 # those compressor ratio strings are really wasting lang ram... 23.11.34 # Ha, I see there's a "Skip Length" menu I didn't remember at all. How about sticking "Binary Skip" under there as an option? Doesn't clutter settings higher up and if you're digging in there to change stuff you're more likely to be interested and / or understand what it means? 23.11.51 # sounds good 23.12.08 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@APoitiers-552-1-26-133.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.13.12 # Unhelpful: it boots without fixing global_settings but single core build (using -fno-short-enums), so I assume it's not the linker warning that produces my non-bootable build 23.13.19 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.14.26 # kugel: unless something in libgcc with an enum size assumption is exercised by multicore... 23.14.46 # Unhelpful: btw, I tried removing all naked attributes and using C version instead of asm in thread.c, no success though 23.15.22 # (where possible that is) 23.15.39 # New commit by 03peter (r23539): updated Dutch lang file 23.15.52 # Also looks like some menu callback shenanigans to play with. 23.16.10 # gevaerts: that genlang change you suggested fixes it 23.16.14 # shall I commit it? 23.16.17 # kugel: you can't assume that where it crashed is where it went wrong, though. an enum size assumption *anywhere* could result in data overwritten that might not cause an immediate crash. :/ 23.16.51 # petur: why not? 23.17.41 # why do we link libgcc anyway? just for (u)divd3? 23.18.30 # New commit by 03peter (r23540): Fix genlang tool broken by r22945 23.18.32 # (u)divsi3 as well :) 23.19.11 # gevaerts: because I don't know perl? ;) 23.19.11 # the meizu m6sp framebuffer is now in sdram instead of iram, but I still get the same kind of hang after initialising the lcd 23.19.27 # petur: I don't know perl either :) 23.19.36 # WIN! 23.20.35 # I think I must be doing something wrong in the setup of the lcd controller 23.20.43 # perhaps we could just provide those on our own 23.20.55 # kugel: there might be other things. have a look. 23.21.07 # well, more specificaly link without it and see what's missing :) 23.21.47 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 23.22.39 # kugel: a quick look in the map suggests that it literally is just the division/modulo functions 23.23.19 # maybe the lcd controller wants bigger alignment of the lcd frame buffer? (it's now aligned at 16-bytes it seems) 23.24.02 # bertrik: the s3c2440 framebuffer needs 4k alignment AFAIK 23.24.55 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.25.14 # is there a simple way to enforce alignment of the frame buffer? 23.26.00 # in the lds for example 23.26.36 # or __attribute__ aligned 23.28.08 # yea. the s3c2440 puts it into a separate section, I think making it in the lds works better for that 23.28.44 Part froggyman 23.29.40 Quit Grahack (Client Quit) 23.30.51 # Unhelpful: can you make sure again that you managed a multicore build? 23.32.11 # as a very dirty hack, I'll just move the framebuffer pointer a bit to the next aligned address and see if it helps for the hang I'm getting 23.32.30 Part kanderson ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 23.34.11 Quit AEnima1577 ("Leaving.") 23.36.12 # too bad, that didn't help 23.37.02 # 4k alignment ought to be enough, right? 23.37.16 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.40.40 # 640K ought to be enough for everybody 23.44.10 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 23.46.09 # depends what though 23.46.27 # * JdGordon| would happily accept a $640K cheque :) 23.46.38 Part froggyman 23.47.51 Quit evilnick_B ("Page closed") 23.48.41 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.48.55 # ask one from BillG :p 23.49.02 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 23.52.00 # petur: "histogram and balance (code *is* coming)" histogram especially... but if oyu do the drawing bit outside of the screen code it shuoldnt cause any problems for skinning 23.54.09 # just the placement 23.54.22 # and it will need a tag 23.55.09 # sure 23.58.50 Join bubsy [0] (n=bubsy@94.139.72.137)