--- Log for 30.11.109 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 7 hours ago 00.01.05 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.01.13 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 00.01.44 Quit MichaelBerry (Client Quit) 00.03.56 # the debruijn method might actually perform decently on arm7, where shifted registers don't impose an extra interlock... rounding to a power of two can be 6 cycles (replacing the v = (v >> 1) + 1 with v ^= (v>>1) ), and the multiply can be cheap in the average-input case if operands are ordered correctly, something i didn't know about or try when i benchmarked clz functions 00.04.11 # that method needs to have v==0 special-cased, though 00.05.43 Join MichaelBerry [0] (n=545c2871@giant.haxx.se) 00.08.02 Quit MichaelBerry (Client Quit) 00.19.55 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r23795): Gigibeat S Manual - Correct display of manual installation items 'Single Boot' and 'Dual Boot' - add missing frequencies to Recording Settings. 00.23.22 Quit MaadMan ("Leaving") 00.25.05 Quit Tomis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.26.28 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.78.233) 00.30.04 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 00.33.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.46.12 Quit shaggy-h (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.46.31 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.47.39 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.49.03 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r23796): Manual - fix incorrect reference label for USB HID setting 00.56.44 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 01.00.23 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 01.03.57 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.04.27 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.04.53 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.05.13 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.05.34 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.06.22 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.17.01 Join geertvdijk [0] (n=chatzill@cc412026-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 01.21.25 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 01.25.09 Join loyx [0] (n=men@ool-43554637.dyn.optonline.net) 01.26.47 # hey, i updated to the latest version of rockbox. i used to have a problem where, while plugged in, the ipod 4g would recieve no power from the cable. now, i updated, and the ipod decharges while plugged in, however, it does NOT power off, it stays charged by the cable. when i pull out the cable, the ipod instantly powers off. 01.27.53 Join bzed_ [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 01.29.36 # it charges fine in the regular apple firmware 01.30.12 # rockbox only draws 100mA from the USB port 01.30.24 # this only lets it charge pretty slowly 01.30.32 # and if you're using hte disk it will indeed discharge 01.30.41 # since the disk uses more current than that while active. 01.30.58 Join bzed__ [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 01.32.01 # it shouldn't matter what version you have, really :) 01.32.13 # it's never charged properly. 01.33.22 # torne: i'm almost definitely sure the HDD in use and i was charging with AC 01.33.34 # it doesn't matter what you connect it to 01.33.44 # *hdd wasn't in use 01.33.46 # it only draws 100mA 01.34.02 # the AC charger is still USB power 01.34.04 Quit mirak_ ("Ex-Chat") 01.34.19 # ohh i see 01.34.22 # but even still 01.34.26 # in orig apple firmware 01.34.31 # it atleast charges when not in use 01.34.32 # I don't know what the idle power is for 4G 01.34.46 # it's ~30mA for the video 01.34.50 # so wouldn't it still be a problem wit h rockbox? 01.34.57 # which means it can still charge, it just takes all night 01.35.05 # the 4G may be higher, possibly 01.35.19 # yes, it's rockbox.. 01.35.22 # i didn't say it wasnt L) 01.35.35 # we never set the bit in the power controller telling it it's okay to draw the full 500mA from USB 01.35.42 # missing feature. 01.35.56 # ohh i see 01.36.25 # see FS#8802 01.37.17 Join bzed___ [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 01.37.17 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.37.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK bzed 01.37.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK bzed_ 01.37.17 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.37.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK bzed__ 01.37.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK bzed___ 01.37.17 *** Alert Mode level 3 01.37.19 # i remember applying that patch in the comments 01.37.32 # but that didn't work 01.37.39 # it does work 01.37.57 # is that patch in the SVN? i'm about to grab it 01.38.31 # No, the patch isn't committed; it's a hack and we can't take it as is 01.38.38 # the patch won't work for the 4G unless you modify it 01.38.40 # it 01.38.47 # it's only configured for video and nano1g 01.39.07 # ohh ok 01.39.10 # the 4G has the same power controller so it's likely that the same bit works to enable full charging 01.39.15 # but i don't know that anyone has tested it. 01.39.19 # do you know what i have to modify to get it working with 4G? 01.39.26 # you probably just have to change the #ifdef 01.39.38 # i'm willing to take a risk, don't really care if this ipod breaks hah 01.39.42 # i have been meanign to implement proper usb charging support for a while but i haven't gotten around to it 01.39.48 # it wont' break, it just might do nothing or make it worse :) 01.39.53 # well ok, it *probably* won't break 01.40.09 # if you do test it, please report on the FS entry whether it works ;) 01.40.15 # definitely 01.40.17 # er 01.40.20 # sorry for the unrelated question 01.40.26 # but compiling rockbox works on cygwin right? 01.40.29 # yup 01.40.33 # excellent 01.40.34 # there are instructions ont eh wiki 01.41.16 # someone may eventually get around to implementing usb charging properly 01.41.27 # unfortunately there are differences of opinion as to what "properly" means in this case :) 01.41.39 # since actually obeying the USB spec does not give the behaviour that most people probably want 01.41.45 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.41.54 # but disobeying the spec maybe will one day kill someone's usb device :) 01.42.26 # so, that's probably why the patch wasn't implemented 01.42.26 # right? 01.42.46 # well, the patch there just makes it draw 500mA *all the time* if you enable the etting 01.42.56 # even if you attach it to a computer which can't provide that 01.43.16 # so on laptops, or unpowred hubs, or other sources that can't necessarily do that, it produces odd behaviour 01.43.30 # ohh, i see 01.43.33 # i have tha tpatch in my build and if i plug it into my keyboard's usb hub the keyboard and mouse stop working :) 01.43.46 # because the hub's safety cutouts go off and disconnect *reverything* 01.43.59 # this is not ideal 01.44.01 Quit bzed_ (Connection refused) 01.44.09 # ahh ok 01.44.11 # so, i was gonna try and do a safer approach, but haven't gotten around to it yet. 01.44.17 # maybe i will at some point, or someone else will ;) 01.44.19 # well for me 01.44.26 # as long as the battery doesn't discharge while plugged in 01.44.27 # it's fine 01.44.35 # because i want to use it in my car 01.44.38 # if you can test hte patch with the appropriate changes to make it take effect on 4G and report back that would be great 01.44.41 # then when i want to bring it with me, no power 01.44.48 # because atm it's only been tested on video/nano 01.45.02 # i'm about to apply the patch 01.45.16 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.45.32 # Ohh, right, soryr 01.45.35 # i see the bit htats missing 01.45.46 # apply the patch as is 01.45.49 # do you have a version that you want to send me? 01.45.56 # or just download the one in 8802 01.45.58 # that's in the comments 01.46.05 # just apply the one from 8802 01.46.10 # kk 01.46.10 # but then youneed to edit the config.h for your player 01.46.11 # one sec 01.46.38 # is yours a 4g or a color? 01.46.45 # 4G with the black and white screen 01.47.03 # and speak of the devil 01.47.06 Quit bzed__ (Connection refused) 01.47.11 # my mouse just disconnected when it went into the apple firmware, hahahahh 01.47.18 # ok. apply the patch as it is, and then edit firmware/config/config-ipod4g.h 01.47.19 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.47.20 # add a line that says 01.47.26 # #define HAVE_USB_CHARGING_ENABLE 01.47.39 # then build 01.47.45 # you will get a new setting under battery for usb charging 01.47.54 # if you turn that on it will hopefully start drawing full power 01.48.05 # if it's working it should charge pretty fast, maybe 1-2 hours for a full charge 01.48.11 # even if you are using it 01.48.27 # er, firmware/export/config-ipod4g.h 01.48.29 # sorry :) 01.48.33 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.48.37 # thanks mang :D 01.48.40 Ctcp Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.48.40 # * Torne has to go for now; post on FS#8802 with what you find? 01.48.48 # wait.. 01.48.50 # one more question? 01.48.56 # what's the comamnd to patch it? 01.49.04 # i just want to make sure, i think last time i tried this i messed it up 01.50.30 # JdGordon: using pure %Rb (not in a conditional) in an sbs seems to crash the sim at least 01.51.57 Quit bzed (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 01.51.58 Nick bzed___ is now known as bzed (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 01.51.58 DBUG Enqueued KICK bzed 02.01.51 Quit dmb ("Leaving") 02.02.40 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 02.06.20 Join NoGare [0] (i=NoGare@dyn216-8-168-209.ADSL.mnsi.net) 02.08.17 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r23797): Gigibeat S Manual - redo r23795 to look like it was originally meant to look. 02.09.49 # Is it easy to make themes? 02.09.57 Quit seani (Connection timed out) 02.27.33 # xxarthur33xx: its not very difficult, but will take some time to learn the WPS tokens 02.28.14 # see: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS along with http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking 02.28.32 # Hey., what's with all the improper themes getting int othe h300 theme section? :P 02.28.34 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=h300 02.33.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.33.57 # Also I dont have a firm grip on .sbs 02.34.08 # Does it completely override the .wps while rockbox is in the menu? 02.34.21 # Or does it siaplay OVER the wps when rockbox is in the menu? 02.34.42 # I guess those will work on an H300... (and almost every other target) 02.34.48 # If the former, does it use the backdrop or a permanent image (%X) in the .sbs file? 02.36.26 # even well suited for its LCD remote (though "colours" will differ ;) 02.39.36 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.18 # Seems he accidentially submitted to the H300 instead of the new Clip section 02.40.30 # Which (judgingby his forum post) is his intended target 02.41.16 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 02.42.09 Join polobric1lo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-111-130.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 02.42.52 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.48 Quit liar (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.49.41 Quit NoGare ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.6b4/20091124213835]") 02.53.15 Quit geertvdijk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.00.39 Quit xxarthur33xx () 03.02.32 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-126-242.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.03.32 Quit polobric1lo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.46 # pixelma: which sim? 03.10.16 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.11.27 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-89-83.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.16.39 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r23798): fix segfault on %Rb token 03.18.01 Quit Soap__ ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") 03.18.41 Quit MG_Man (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.19.08 Quit sunrider ("Reconnecting") 03.19.10 Join sunrider [0] (n=kosmic@unaffiliated/spice) 03.23.20 Quit tchan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.23.29 Join polobric1lo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-79-162.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.23.57 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 03.25.28 Quit JdGordon1 ("Leaving.") 03.25.38 Quit lostlogic ("leaving") 03.26.07 Join lostlogic [50] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 03.28.36 Quit killan ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 03.30.23 Quit kugel ("exit(0);") 03.32.10 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-94fc70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 03.32.55 Quit polobric1lo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.35.44 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.38.32 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-101-110.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.59.37 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 04.02.37 Part froggyman 04.12.04 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.15.48 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 04.17.04 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=quassel@dslb-084-057-166-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.18.06 Quit Rondom (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.21.16 Part toffe82 04.25.25 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-82-113.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr) 04.33.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.34.04 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 04.42.28 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.57.04 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.13.28 Quit Topy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.17.58 Quit Strife89 ("Bed.") 05.24.19 Join Topy44 [0] (n=Topy44@f054223067.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.31.32 Join webguest06 [0] (n=45eb2782@giant.haxx.se) 05.31.39 Quit webguest06 (Client Quit) 05.31.54 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.43.33 Join T44 [0] (n=Topy44@f054216086.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.45.34 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 06.00.42 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.07.30 # torne if you are here 06.07.32 # i love you 06.07.41 # o_O 06.07.42 # it worked perfectly, came back to my ipod it was fully charged 06.19.06 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.33.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.54.30 Quit rphillips (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.06.19 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 07.06.22 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 07.09.40 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp126.contactor.se) 07.16.59 # hmm... even though the screen resolution is the same and the theme will work, the Clip themes on the H300 page could not be used as rwps out of the box (because the files have a .wps extension) 07.19.05 # they could probably *work* on the main display too but 07.19.22 Nick shaggy-h is now known as chrism (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 07.37.11 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.43.47 Quit phanboy4 ("Leaving") 07.55.17 Join rphillips [0] (n=rphillip@66-90-184-91.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 08.00.54 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-178-172.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.12.45 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.24.50 Quit jfc^3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.33.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.35.28 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.42.39 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 08.42.46 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC1B9.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.46.07 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 08.49.34 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.02.35 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.03.36 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host140-41-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.08.03 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.11.51 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 09.15.55 Join Bagder [0] (n=dast@giant.haxx.se) 09.17.46 # which are the better names: ipodvideo/ipodvideo64mb or ipodvideo32mb/ipodvideo64mb ? 09.19.03 # we use zenvisionm30gb/zenvisionm60gb already 09.19.19 # the latter 09.20.32 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-116-204.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.25.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 09.28.45 # Zagor: The issue is the bootloader - there is just one. So maybe keep the former, as "ipodvideo" can mean "any model" and "ipodvideo64mb" means "64MB only" 09.29.28 # what is the difference between zenvisionm 30 & 60? their config.h files look very much alike 09.29.54 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.29.54 # * linuxstb shrugs 09.31.11 # Zagor: What's in tools/configure? Maybe the firmware format differs? 09.31.50 # ah, indeed. "scramble -creative=zvm" and "scramble -creative=zvm60" 09.37.10 # I think I'll go with ipodvideo/ipodvideo64mb for now, on the somewhat ad-hoc reasoning that it only has one target in tools/configure and so the 64mb is a "variant" 09.37.43 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.76.63) 09.38.09 Quit Tomis (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.38.09 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.76.63) 09.40.21 # Zagor: What about the Archos 8MB builds? 09.43.12 # linuxstb: same thing 09.43.41 # recorder/recorder8mb 09.45.50 # * linuxstb rethinks the ipodvideo scenario and wonders if it would be cleaner to use ipodvideo32mb, and release two (identical) bootloaders... 09.46.43 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.51.09 # pixelma or anyone else who know the manual: where are the manual/platform tex files references? i.e. where do I change when I rename those files? 09.51.19 # referenced* 09.52.47 # ah, tools/configure 10.05.10 # reminds me that I find it somewhat annoying to be asked for RAM size if I configure for a manual build... although it doesn't matter much anymore because you have to explicitly use "make manual" now anyway and it's not important what kind of build you configured the directory for (you actually don't need to configure a "manual" build now anymore or there is no use) 10.05.26 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Ex-Chat") 10.07.53 # it's one of the little details that give character to our build process :) 10.07.58 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 10.19.57 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.22.40 # new patches uploaded to fs#10819 10.26.23 Join polobric1lo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-50-11.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.30.03 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.33.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.36.45 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 10.48.07 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8FC9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.48.40 Join polobric2lo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-29-60.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.49.52 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.52.55 Quit polobric1lo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.57.28 Join petur2 [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.58.08 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 10.58.13 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.06.40 # so, we're changing ipodnano to ipodnano1g? 11.06.55 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.07.06 # yes 11.07.26 # what is one supposed to do if a new target is added before it's known that there's going to be a 2nd generation? 11.07.35 # * gevaerts would prefer "g1" 11.08.09 # gevaerts: we already call the ipods 1g 2g 3g 4g. and so does everybody else. 11.08.38 # Zagor: I know. It's a bit unfortunate that for the nanos this can overlap with capacities 11.08.38 # kugel: with the sansas we've added "v2" 11.09.20 # yea, but we didn't change the v1 11.09.53 # I just mean, should we add 1g/v1 to the former generation once a v2/2g is added? 11.10.27 # kugel: I don't think so in general, no. 11.10.49 # I guess the nano didn't have the 1g in the first place because there was no 2g when it was added? 11.11.32 # we did move away from 1g 2g etc to 2nd gen etc 11.11.46 # for the purpose of not confusing it with storage capacity 11.12.42 # which I think is good. but I also think the ipods are a special case. the 1g 2g system is very well-known to ipod owners. 11.13.13 # yes, these days I think so but previously that was not the case 11.13.23 # the point is adding consistency isnt it? 11.13.47 # kugel: so you're proposing we rename ipod1g2g to just "ipod" too? 11.14.28 # I guess so 11.16.37 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB9398.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.16.51 # we already call the minis 1g and 2g too. I don't see the point in leaving nano a special case among the ipods. 11.17.22 # funman: ping 11.17.41 # but so the ipods are a special case among all other targets? 11.18.05 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 11.18.07 # kugel: yes, insofar that I don't think other targets should get such "g" names 11.18.30 # pyro_maniac: pong 11.19.51 # well, I don't really mind, but that isn't the consistency we aimed for I think 11.19.55 # funman: a forum user sent me some diagrams for samsung yh-925. i would like to forward it to you to have a look at this 11.20.13 # pyro_maniac: you want to talk with kugel i think, i only have a yh-920 11.20.18 Join seani_ [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 11.20.29 # what kind of diagram is it ? 11.20.38 # kugel: the consistency is to have the same name everywhere. not primarily to define a mathematical formula for target names 11.21.30 # for such "damn the torpedoes" consistency we'd have to rename most of the ipods. what good would that do? 11.21.57 # easiness to name new models 11.22.15 # we would still have a guide for new models 11.22.32 # we already have an easy system for new models. 11.22.32 # funman: main schematic, block diagram, part list and a cover that says "service manual" 11.22.42 # what kugel is proposing is to rename old models to fit the new scheme 11.22.49 # pyro_maniac: just attach it to the wiki page if you think it's useful for development 11.22.52 Quit seani (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.22.53 # ipodv4 11.23.18 # Zagor: yeah, but I agree with you on that. We should not go there 11.23.22 # funman: i wanted to ask first because law restrictions 11.23.55 # if sandisk had given their different c200 versions names, we'd be using those too 11.24.38 # well i have no idea, check if the document specifies it can be redistributed, or ask the guy where he got it from 11.25.46 # pyro_maniac: we better keep it non-public until we know what it is 11.26.03 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.26.06 # it sounds like it would be PP documents 11.31.07 # kugel: did my link arrived you or should i mail it to you? 11.31.23 # pyro_maniac: gt it, thankls 11.31.32 # it doesn't seem terribly useful though 11.32.41 # even the main schematic? 11.37.31 Quit jasio (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.38.16 # and the block device is another argument for fm support in yh-925 11.38.31 # s/device/diagram 12.01.10 Join jasio [0] (n=yann@cpc2-rdng20-2-0-cust902.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.08.12 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.09.03 Join watto [0] (n=watto@193.203.81.165) 12.10.15 Quit polobric2lo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.25.25 # pyro_maniac: I can't read schematics well :) it at least shows us which other parts are in there, but I think we knew those already? 12.27.11 # couldn't it be useful for fm support? i am not that good at low level, thats why i am asking. 12.27.42 # and the name PP2020-CPS is confusing me, too. 12.33.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.36.02 # a) no idea, b) same here :) 12.37.09 # what do you think is the best way to handle these files? 12.45.56 Quit funman ("free(random());") 12.47.40 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 12.50.46 # this files seem to be available for the 920 and the 820, too. and first i can see is, that the fm chip is different on the 820 12.51.21 Join geertvdijk [0] (n=chatzill@cc412026-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 12.59.39 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-99-50.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.04.06 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.31.10 Quit einhirn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.48.42 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r23799): Use correct quotation marks instead of simple apostrophes ... 13.52.42 Quit geertvdijk ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]") 13.57.38 Join tomers [0] (n=86bfe844@giant.haxx.se) 13.59.18 Quit tomers (Client Quit) 13.59.46 # loyx: hehe 14.17.27 Join killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-94fc70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.17.28 Quit killan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.17.41 Join hd [0] (n=jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 14.18.00 Quit bzed (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.21.07 Join bzed [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 14.33.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.35.07 # mc2739: what are these `` quotation marks in r23799? 14.35.35 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.28 Quit mt (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.41.58 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.46.58 # kugel: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LatexGuidelines#Quotes 14.47.37 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.47.46 # pixelma: alright, thanks. 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How can I get a playlist of all albums which are played sequentially? 16.04.06 # (rockbox 3.4 on a nano) 16.04.10 # you can't :) 16.04.21 # kugel: why's that? 16.04.45 # no idea 16.06.43 # that's very weird to say the least :| 16.08.17 # why use the db for that at all? 16.08.25 # why not just make a big playlist and play that? 16.08.58 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.09.51 # Bagder: you mean manually? 16.10.01 # and save it on the ipod? 16.10.15 # rockbox can do it for you 16.12.21 # Bagder: via the playlist menu? I've tried "create playlist" and it just creates a big playlist sorted by track rather than album, track 16.14.47 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 16.15.03 # can I install rockbox without the standard ipod firmware? 16.18.36 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 16.19.17 # Captain_Haddock: random folder advance plugin in can do that for you too, I think 16.20.28 # IIRC it has a non-random mode where it lists you all folders that have music in, where you can deselect flders. 16.26.31 # kugel: thanks - this looks like a winner. Oddly enough, there doesn't seem to be a non-random mode.. but the only option is "Play shuffled" which loads all tracks sorted by album,track :\ 16.28.26 # so now, I can finally select "shuffle" if I want a random track next and set shuffle to off if I want the next track in the album \o/ 16.32.37 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-143-7.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.33.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.35.40 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 16.36.55 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 16.41.18 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 16.44.40 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.51.24 # ImperialEagle: technically yes but you still need to have the correct disk layout for the apple rom to be happy, and it's easier not to. why? 16.52.30 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-123-7.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.54.50 # accidentally deleted all the stuff on the hdd... but I just managed to borrow a windows comp and get new firmware 16.55.04 # for future reference though, how would I do that? 16.55.36 # with ipodpatcher, and careful reading of the documentation that goes with it 16.55.38 # :D 16.56.28 # when you say deleted *all* the stuff on the hdd, what do you mean? 16.56.34 # just everything on the exposed FAT partition? 16.56.38 # because that doesn't matter at all 16.56.42 # complete reformatted it lol 16.56.53 # not just the fat either, the whole disk 16.56.57 # right 16.57.00 # was somewhat accidental 16.57.07 # then yes, you would need to recreate all the partitions correctly 16.57.22 # there are instructions on the wiki but it's a fiddly pain ;) 16.57.41 # yeah.. still good to know how to do it, don't always have access to windows/mac comps 16.57.44 # thanks :D 17.00.35 # well you shouldn't ever have to do it again, unless you are very silly ;) 17.01.48 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.67.71) 17.02.33 # lol, *shouldn't* is the key word. but yeah, probably won't have to 17.02.43 # thanks for the help :) 17.03.55 Quit polobric1lo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.09.29 Join Omlet [0] (i=omlet05@77.148-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 17.09.38 Quit Zagor ("Don't panic") 17.18.22 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.18.31 Quit Tomis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.18.32 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.67.71) 17.19.48 Join linuxguy4 [0] (n=timj@adsl-75-57-174-236.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 17.20.22 Quit linuxguy3 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.27.01 Join polobric1lo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-56-76.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.29.00 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.40.27 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.42.05 Join polobricolo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-40-114.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.47.05 Part Bagder 17.51.30 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 17.55.24 Quit polobric1lo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.56.38 # Pics of Creative Zen Touch - if you need: http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_p_t/4147740774/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_p_t/4147739310/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_p_t/4146979477/ 18.00.36 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 18.01.56 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.06.54 Join ercani [0] (n=opera@78.185.17.216) 18.07.09 Quit Omlet ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 18.10.33 Quit RavoxX ("Verlassend") 18.15.22 Part ercani 18.22.23 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.25.49 Quit Xerion (" ") 18.25.50 Join FlynDice_ [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 18.26.36 Join polobric1lo [0] (n=polobric@AGrenoble-257-1-13-222.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.32.02 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@70-1-27-79.pools.spcsdns.net) 18.33.14 Quit FlynDice (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.33.46 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 18.33.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.34.23 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 18.36.16 Join hebz0rl [0] (n=hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-213-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.39.09 Quit Xerion (Client Quit) 18.39.16 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 18.39.18 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.40.12 Quit polobricolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.43.20 Join kugel_ [0] (n=kugel@e178068101.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.43.49 Quit antil33t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.43.55 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 18.46.12 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 18.47.57 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.56.15 Nick linuxguy4 is now known as linuxguy3 (n=timj@adsl-75-57-174-236.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 18.56.59 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 18.57.07 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.58.33 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.00.42 Part knittl 19.01.05 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.03.39 Nick FlynDice_ is now known as FlynDice (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 19.05.35 Join MaadMan [0] (n=MaadMan@188-192-221-19-dynip.superkabel.de) 19.05.46 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! 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21.35.19 # I think i found my answer tho 21.35.31 # select + play/pause on boot 21.35.47 # What use is an external harddrive that you don't plug into a pc? 21.35.55 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 21.36.12 # I will plug it into a pc to move files to it 21.36.29 # Right... 21.36.34 # but it's going to be connected to a box thats hooked up to my tv 21.36.41 # yes 21.36.46 # So just plug it into USB 21.36.53 # You don't need to do anything special 21.36.57 # a box that isn't a pc 21.37.18 # It must know how to do USB 21.37.22 # So just plug it in 21.37.39 # .. 21.37.54 # There is no difference 21.37.54 # ! 21.42.50 # the Ipods do UMS, and that's it. If Itunes is running on the PC it blocks direct access to the drive, but it's still UMS 21.43.30 # just plug it into a linux box and you'll see. 21.43.49 # ya 21.43.54 # sorry for being a nub 21.44.04 # you were right I hadn't tested it yet 21.44.16 # you don't even need to use emergency disk mode. 21.44.32 # It wasn't working with the default fw so I assumed it wasn't going to work again 21.44.42 # without some manual usb mode set 21.45.14 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.46.43 # if i understand correctly, the PC register on arm is the address of the current instruction +8? so, for example, i could fetch from an LUT immediately after the return instruction with something like ldrb r0, [pc, r0] ; b lr ? 21.48.54 # probably yes 21.49.27 Join archivator [0] (n=archivat@stu0279.keble.ox.ac.uk) 21.51.21 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.54.43 # Could someone familiar with the sim please take a look at fs#10816? I tried to pinpoint it earlier but got lost in the sim code :( I might do a bisect to at least pinpoint the commit that broke it.. 21.55.54 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 21.57.08 Quit ipodnoob ("Page closed") 21.57.11 Join mirak_ [0] (n=mirak@85-171-108-41.rev.numericable.fr) 21.59.25 # or, as here, a clz based on the debruijn log2 example: http://pastie.org/720480 22.00.40 Quit liar (No route to host) 22.01.25 # * TheSeven glares at that awful code 22.01.43 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 22.04.47 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 22.05.27 # what? loading or calculating an address for the table would cost. :) 22.07.25 # reversing that one would be really hard... 22.07.35 # and i thought it might actually do decently for the average case on arm7tdmi. on arm11 the extra interlock cycle for shifted registers would hurt it, but we have a clz instruction there. 22.07.39 # * TheSeven is glad that apple used a rather dumb approach for log2 22.10.34 # we'd hardly have to reverse it if it's in our code (with commments) 22.11.27 # hrm, the mul is invalid, isn't it? unless i change the output register? 22.14.14 # It isn't 22.14.38 # yes, gcc told me so when i swapped it :) 22.14.52 # Rd and Rm must not be the same on arm <= v5 22.15.39 # i thought i'd compare some of our clz options... i'll also work up binary-search versions with termination and LUT at various points :) 22.16.02 # * amiconn wonders whether this weird code is really any faster than the more straightforward checks in power-of-two steps 22.18.46 # amiconn: it will likely depend on the input distribution. mul is pretty slow for larger values. 22.19.11 # Yes, and you have two ldr instructions 22.20.58 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 22.21.36 Join Omlet [0] (i=omlet05@77.148-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 22.27.34 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.6b4/20091124213835]") 22.28.19 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=quassel@dslb-084-057-166-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.28.39 # yes, where even the LUT-assisted binary search can make do with only one, provided it uses adr to load the LUT's address 22.30.18 Quit Grahack ("Leaving.") 22.30.32 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.30.33 Quit phanboy4 ("Leaving") 22.32.09 # Or your trick... 22.32.16 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.32.40 # Nah, probably won't work since it needs an add afterwards 22.32.45 # amiconn: the trick won't work for those, as the LUT is only used for a few of the bits 22.33.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.34.42 # Hah, but your trick could be used in ffs-arm.S, saving an instruction :) 22.35.49 Quit toffe82 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]") 22.37.38 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 22.39.16 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 22.39.24 # clz could bit-reverse and then call ffs... ;) 22.40.33 Quit mirak_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.41.44 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.42.19 # Try that... bit-reversing alnone is probably slower than clz 22.42.58 # pixelma: did that commit a fwe nights ago fix your %Rb crash? 22.43.17 Join gigatheme [0] (n=471ce8ac@giant.haxx.se) 22.43.28 # anyone here 22.43.48 # amiconn: ah! that ffs is also using a debruijn number, i think :) 22.44.35 # im trying to upload a theme for the gigabeat F, get "path too deep" and "file outside" messages 22.45.55 # gigatheme: that sounds like your theme isn't packaged properly 22.46.36 # checked and rechecked 22.46.48 # we could use essentially the same code to do clzs, only with a different LUT and a different method for isolating a single bit 22.47.06 # can you upload it somewhere so someone can have a look at it? 22.47.20 # where would i upload a zip 22.48.46 # if you don't have webspace somewhere, that's a bit tricky. Can you paste the output of the theme site on http://pastie.org/ ? That will probably at least give some hints 22.49.45 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87.196.36.24) 22.49.49 # http://www.fileingy.com/en/file/647/seerv1-zip.html 22.49.57 # see if that hosted it 22.50.31 Quit Casainho (Client Quit) 22.50.38 # or here 22.50.39 # http://www.fileingy.com/getfile.php?id=647&access_key=a7bc3c67fdef6fd4955884ae09a55a46&t=4b143e95&o=F2C9B834311F64C08842F11E82C1758DF3D5B934311F78C08D42F9568B88738AFA83A7355E553D9C913B921E83C17491&name=seerv1.zip 22.51.06 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87.196.36.24) 22.51.26 # the zip file needs to have .rockbox as its base directory 22.51.35 Quit Omlet ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 22.51.48 # rockbox is right inside 22.52.18 # i followed the theme lines then cross checked it with other themes 22.52.23 # rockbox is inside a directory called seerv1.0, not in the base 22.52.51 # if other themes look the same, your zip tool is broken 22.53.16 # let me try to rezip it 22.54.33 # Unhelpful: Iiuc it does, but by clever choice it avoids using 'mul' 22.54.48 # (the table is twice as large though) 22.55.50 # ok i know what i did wrong, i compressed the final folder instead of its contents 22.56.14 # redid, but still get 4 errors 22.57.02 # ok those 4 are my extra files i want to put with it 22.58.38 # amiconn: indeed, and has empty slots, as well, on account of not using an actual debruijn number. the reason my version has the early bail for v==0 is due to the fact that the number it uses provides the index in the top *5* bits, and the non-shifted case leaves them all 0. 22.59.07 # you can't actually use the same trick and get a 0-32 index out, hence the sparse LUT for ffs 23.01.21 # got it -- thanks gevaerts 23.01.31 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 23.03.20 Quit gigatheme ("CGI:IRC") 23.03.30 # Unhelpful: The 3 shifted arithmetic instructions need the same number of cycles as your 'ldr' though, not even taking the 'mul' into account 23.07.44 # * Unhelpful had actually done an exhaustive search for a number that could produce the 0-32 index values via shifting before realizing it was somewhat obviously impossible 23.09.46 Join Stephen_ [0] (n=S@86-45-84-114-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 23.09.59 # since each 1 bit in the number will occupy the top bit of the index for some shift value, there is no way to have such a number produce 32 as an index, but not produce any greater value 23.12.06 # also any true de bruijn sequence will *probably* be harder to reduce to a shift/add shift/subtract sequence than the value used in ffs, because of the limit placed on runs of 1s or 0s 23.13.13 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 23.15.37 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 23.19.38 Join Utchybann_ [0] (n=lolo@rps6752.ovh.net) 23.19.41 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.23.26 # * LambdaCalculus37 got a Clipv2 from Woot 23.23.36 Quit liar (Client Quit) 23.23.53 # So what's working so far on the clipv2? 23.23.54 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 23.25.29 # LambdaCalculus37: those are v2 that just went on woot? :/ 23.27.10 Quit Strife89 ("Going home") 23.29.19 # Unhelpful: A few days ago, yeah. 23.29.33 # But I want to see how far along the port is. 23.29.40 # And I know we don't have sound yet. :) 23.29.56 Quit TaZzZ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.30.15 # i hadn't realized they were v2. still could be fun to play with, but i've managed to stay out of low-level hardware dev and don't really have plans to change that 23.31.10 # power on the beast doesn't count though huh ;) 23.32.06 Quit TheSeven ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]") 23.35.30 Join Vampireking [0] (n=52717953@giant.haxx.se) 23.35.44 # Unhelpful: so you dont want me to send my clip+ to you? 23.36.53 # what a lovely xmas present! ;-P 23.41.44 # krazykit: true, it seems i get sucked in no matter what :/ 23.41.52 Quit Utchybann_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.42.07 # anyone here have access to the theme site ? to delete a theme 23.42.09 Quit liar (Client Quit) 23.44.08 # Stephen_: which one? 23.44.39 # the XL and XL Fuzed for e200/v2. I have uploaded V2 of the themes that fix a bug I discovered today 23.44.48 # the e200 (or 176x220) has been flooded with themes in the last days :) 23.44.53 Join Utchybann_ [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 23.44.55 # yeah from me :) 23.45.03 # updated from the theme site 23.45.29 # your wish is my command :) 23.45.37 # thanks kugel_ 23.45.45 Quit mikroflops (Remote closed the connection) 23.45.53 # * JdGordon| wonders if rasher or scorche want to fix it so updated themes remove the old version? 23.45.56 # I still have some more to go aswell it'll be a few days tho. 23.45.57 Join mikroflops [0] (n=yogurt@217-208-157-242-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 23.46.02 # or how bad the scripts are for someone else to do it? 23.46.17 # also in the e200 page there is a spartan black that shouldnt be there 23.46.29 # its for the h330/ipod photo/fuze 23.46.42 # I am working on a port tho ;) 23.47.19 # is there any reason to not give users who upload a bunch of themes admin access to the theme site? 23.48.37 # yes 23.48.47 # ah you mean manually 23.49.23 # thanks for removing them kugel_ 23.55.07 Join Vampireking_ [0] (n=quassel@82.113.121.148) 23.55.29 Join rlarson`` [0] (n=reid02@CPE00226b5e2074-CM000e5c6ebb22.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.55.42 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-197-34.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.56.37 # JdGordon|: the reason is, that this is still on the todo of the theme page :-) 23.56.58 Quit Vampireking ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.57.03 # for the updates yeah? 23.57.35 # implementing some way to allow uploaders to update their themes.. 23.58.18 # the theme site is in svn, so you can try to improve it if you can :-) 23.58.39 # yeah, I got scared last time i looked 23.58.57 # I wanted to add a feature listing for the themes.. (i.e wps, rwps, sbs, touchscreeen support, etc)