--- Log for 03.12.109 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 14 hours ago 00.00.28 # It also probably lack comments but I feel the new organization clarified things a lot. 00.03.51 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.05.11 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 00.11.25 Quit gitster ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 00.11.56 Quit Jose2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.22.02 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 00.22.11 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 00.25.06 Join GeekShado_ [0] (n=Antoine@APoitiers-552-1-93-7.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.28.53 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Leaving") 00.41.05 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.43.14 Join hillshum_ [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-233-21.slkc.qwest.net) 00.43.19 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.44.37 Nick hillshum_ is now known as Hillshum (n=hillshum@75-165-233-21.slkc.qwest.net) 00.52.25 Quit liar (No route to host) 00.54.51 Quit Casainho (Remote closed the connection) 00.54.54 Quit kugel_ ("exit(0);") 00.56.36 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.58.17 Quit balug_ ("Ex-Chat") 00.59.49 Quit evilnick_B ("Page closed") 01.03.08 Quit Stephen__ ("Leaving") 01.04.49 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.88.220) 01.11.46 Part froggyman 01.13.10 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 01.22.05 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.22.17 Quit GeekShado_ ("The cake is a lie !") 01.23.03 Quit klapaucjusz ("Bye!") 01.23.07 Join JohnTeddy [0] (i=unstable@tor/regular/sid) 01.30.24 # I haven't used my rockbox/iPod video in a couple weeks. I just plugged it into my laptop via USB, but it doesn't seem to turn on. 01.30.29 # Any tricks that I can try? 01.36.29 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.39.18 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 01.39.44 Join CaptainKewl [0] (n=jason@64.121.176.61) 01.43.53 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.41 Join emobathtub [0] (n=Matt@h11.167.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 01.49.45 # hey rockboxers 01.49.55 # I have a question. There's a project I'm working on 01.50.02 # and I was wondering If I could get anyone's help on it. 01.54.32 Join evilnick_BS [0] (i=620ec27e@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 01.56.20 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 01.58.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.01.30 # my Sansa e280R is annihilated. my brother formatted it and the screen is broken. Is there anything I can do to fix it?> 02.02.03 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-197-34.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.05.54 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87.196.75.15) 02.06.20 Quit loyx (Remote closed the connection) 02.06.34 Join loyx [0] (n=men@ool-43554637.dyn.optonline.net) 02.10.40 Part toffe82 02.13.10 # I was also wondering if there is an easy way to mess with rockbox's settings without using the GUI 02.22.23 # Edit the .cfg file in a text editor. 02.23.41 # I'm no rockbox pro but basically, I'm trying to take my broken Sansa e280 and make it into a Sansa Shuffle 02.23.56 # Ah. 02.24.21 # Be sure to turn on voice menus (and install a voice file if you haven't already). 02.24.33 # right now i'm doing it on an emulator 02.24.39 # Ah. 02.24.44 # so that i can make everything work in the settings and copy paste it 02.25.00 # should i enable directory cache? 02.25.26 # It shouldn't hurt. :) 02.25.35 # I always use it. :) 02.25.57 # alright i fully enabled voice. 02.26.03 # Okay. 02.26.04 # what do i need to do to put the voice in? 02.26.09 # like download a ifle? 02.26.11 # file? 02.26.21 # Yes, you obtain a .voice file. 02.26.42 # Link coming up, hang on. 02.27.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 02.29.45 # I also have a broken c250 02.29.51 # (the audio jack is broken) 02.29.55 # That I have made into a nifty clock 02.30.10 # Is there anyway I can get the thing to, on power on, just load the clock application? 02.31.17 # That does ring a bell 02.31.21 # * evilnick_BS goes to check 02.31.37 # emobathtub: yes, there is, but you need to modify rhe source and compile your own build 02.32.07 # o_o 02.32.11 # i don't know how to do that at all 02.32.24 # can anyone.. do it for me? :P 02.32.25 # mc2739: Could auto.rock do that? 02.33.08 Quit Riku () 02.33.47 # evilnick_BS: yes, that's it. You rename the plugin you want auto started to autorock.rock, but you also need to enable it with a source change 02.34.52 # oops, it's autostart.rock 02.35.09 # Hence me being unable to find it in the wiki :) 02.36.37 # Uh 02.36.40 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 02.36.44 # I tried installing to my sansa.. 02.36.54 # "Error writing data length" 02.37.06 # "bulk write error <-5 input/output error> 02.37.11 # Upload of application failed 02.38.13 # oh ignore that 02.38.17 # wrong button 02.42.02 # YES 02.42.03 # YESSS 02.42.04 # YESSSS 02.42.07 # THANK YOU SO MUCH 02.42.11 # working 02.42.12 # =D 02.44.41 # do you think physically removing the screen would be bad 02.44.42 # xD 02.46.01 # removing your enter key would probably be better 02.51.00 # lol 02.57.51 Join T44 [0] (n=Topy44@f049039061.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.00.48 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009102814]") 03.12.40 Join ShapeShifter499 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-68-126-140-183.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 03.13.47 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 03.14.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@79.220.155.227) 03.15.17 Part emobathtub 03.15.52 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.29.49 Quit ShapeShifter499 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109125225]") 03.30.28 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.31.10 Quit Horscht (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.57.41 Quit MG_Man ("...GOT AWAY SAFELY!") 03.59.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.06.54 Quit evilnick_BS ("Page closed") 04.11.06 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.30.00 Quit binaryhermit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.34.27 # amiconn: do you think that it really worth using that pc-relative table hack in ffs-arm.S? 04.36.48 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 05.01.01 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8F155.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.18.52 Quit DerPapst1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.35.23 Quit CaptainKewl (Remote closed the connection) 05.45.06 Quit Horschti ("Verlassend") 05.51.02 # JdGordon|: Thinking about it, isn't the existing volume conditional basically a percent volume? The only thing it doesn't do is let you have it automatically display the volume as a percent of the total range (which makes little sense anyway, you still probably want to notify mute, full, and clipping as unique statuses) 05.59.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.00.10 # yeah... 06.00.19 # i replied to that effect in the thread 06.01.28 # I was just wondering since you also asked about adding in a percent tag. 06.02.10 # yeah, I went to do the code for it and realised the current tag could be used just as easily 06.02.30 # mute|"percent scale"|0dB|>0dB| 06.03.07 # * JdGordon is reading the thread out of order 06.03.26 # What happens if the "this part" part has more increments than the volume range has? 06.03.37 # Like if you literally typed in 1%, 2% .. 98%, 99% in there? 06.03.44 # Would it just skip over the unnecessary ones? 06.05.02 # it would round the values I guess... 06.05.21 # *intval = (limit - 3) * (global_settings.volume - sound_min(SOUND_VOLUME) - 1) / (-1 - sound_min(SOUND_VOLUME)) + 2; 06.05.32 # the -3 gets that "this part" bit 06.06.35 # its not exactly percent.. but it normalises it like he wants 06.07.05 # using 10 steps would have the effect of "10%" for each step... sort of 06.07.06 # It divides the range of mute+1 to -1db into an arbitrary number of nearly even sized chunks 06.07.17 # yes 06.07.21 # Which is what he needs 06.08.31 # Except that one way or another the top range is going to be imbalanced simply because of the positive bits. 06.10.18 # so you have mute|9 steps|0db|100% which will even it out a bit more 06.10.39 # That's what I'd do, yes. 06.10.48 # Since mute, 0db, and >0db are all kinda special values anyway 06.10.59 # but really.. if you care about that precision you shouldnt be using a graphical diasplay 06.12.08 # yes, except of those 3 >0 is the only one which has more that one value... 06.12.28 # Well, even Cabbie shows a mute icon for mute, the bar is only full exactly at 0db (so you know when you're at line level) and it turns red if you go into ranges that may clip 06.12.38 # It works rather well, but still "feels" like a simple graphical display 06.12.48 # I really like how the cabbie display works 06.12.56 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 06.13.04 # Maybe we should just point him at cabbie and say "just substitute your images in there" 06.13.37 # %?pv<%xdCa|%xdCb|%xdCc|%xdCd|%xdCe|%xdCf|%xdCg|%xdCh|%xdCi|%xdCj> 06.17.07 # anyon care to test out a patch which is of the "users shouldnt see any difference" type? 06.17.34 # FS#10824 06.28.36 # JdGordon: I need to build the crosscompiler, but I might try it 06.30.10 # which target? I can do a build for you 06.31.07 # Clip 06.34.01 # ok, trying to fix a bug first thoguh... 06.36.25 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r23825): fix FS#10674 - make skin debugger count the lines correctly so the line number in the output is actually useful! 06.37.07 # Hillshum: is the FM working on your clip ? 06.37.44 # funman: Yes 06.38.32 # r23679M (not sure what the M is) 06.38.57 # * JdGordon decides to update his clip while he's building anyway 06.39.03 # i just hope it's not "magic_fix_for_clip_fm.diff" ;) 06.39.30 # it's 2 weeks old and my radio stopped working a while before that 06.42.19 # bertrik: reverting r22641 "Sansa c200v2: fix si4700 tuner initialisation to make it work for the c200v2" fixes FM on my Clip 06.42.48 # Is rockboxdev.sh supposed to be multi-threading the compile? 06.43.32 # you need to change the make command manually in it 06.44.16 # * Hillshum debates restarting it 06.44.33 # how many hreads? 06.45.40 # JdGordon: I have two cores 06.45.54 # still probably worth restarting it 06.47.39 Quit Rob2222 () 06.47.46 # Hillshum: http://usa.jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox-clip.zip 06.49.01 Quit Strife89 ("Bed.") 06.50.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDC9BE3.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.51.59 # JdGordon: I got it, but I'll not be applying it before bed 06.52.14 # nuts.. ok :) 06.52.18 # let me know if you see issues 06.53.38 # Yeah 06.53.52 Quit Hillshum ("Leaving") 06.53.53 # bertrik: where did you get the info needed for r21416 ? 06.53.57 # * FlynDice has sd cards running at 15 and 31 MHz on his e280v2 with this patch if anyone interested... http://pastie.org/725004 06.54.10 # FlynDice: music plays fine ? 06.54.44 # yes, getting write errors though on disk 0(internal) that I'm working on 06.55.12 # don't know if it's the 15 mhz or what right now 06.55.16 # i just commented on your last FS# mentioned on the forum: clip & fuze work fine 06.56.30 # thanks, good, I think the case for ide_clk being MCLK for the internal is starting to gain more confidenc 06.58.39 # 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18.06.56 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 18.12.13 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 18.13.02 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.15.23 # bluebrother: did you see what I write before ? problem installing on a F10 with rbutil ? 18.15.48 # when I close rbutil , it erase fwimage01 from the gbsytem... 18.16.12 # hmm 18.16.21 Join paddy1234 [0] (n=paddy123@80-42-16-144.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.16.39 # I have just installed rockbox and have tried to build the database, it works then asks me to restart, which i do, then i have to build it again. it is a cycle. help? 18.17.00 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109125225]") 18.17.00 # paddy1234: how are you restarting? 18.17.25 # holding down menu and select 18.17.46 # that's the emergency reset combination 18.18.00 # You need to shutdown and turn the player on againm 18.18.09 # oh, how do i do that 18.18.56 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.2 (other ipods are the same I think) 18.19.24 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-81-204.net.novis.pt) 18.21.58 # gevaerts: thankyou, it says "shutting down..." i start it again but it still asks me to "initialize database" 18.21.58 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r23829): Sansa AMS: Add read/write and drive info to panic message for SD transfer errors. 18.22.05 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r23830): Sansa AMS: Wait until sd_init_card() to turn on the clocks for the pl180 controller. ... 18.22.11 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r23831): Sansa AMS: Use some new macros to set the MCICLK frequency to help avoid missing the bypass bit when resetting frequencies with MCI_CLOCK register. 18.22.40 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@88-123-147-92.rev.libertysurf.net) 18.23.58 # gevaerts: thankyou, it says "shutting down..." i start it again but it still asks me to "initialize database" 18.24.47 # is there any way to get rockbox to behave like the A-B button does in the file browser in the iriver firmware - that is play the selected track next and then continue to play through the folder (and the rest of the filesystem from that point)? the "play next" playlist option just plays that one file then seems to jump away further down the alphabet and play from there 18.26.18 # I have just installed rockbox and have tried to build the database, it works then asks me to restart, which i do, then i have to build it again. it is a cycle. help? 18.26.40 # paddy1234: I can't remember the sequence exactly. If I remember correctly, you first have to enable the database, then reboot, and then it will actually initialise the database when you go to the database menu 18.27.00 # * gevaerts doesn't use the database himself 18.27.50 # yah, i'm pretty sure that's right. 18.27.54 # enabling the database requires a reboot 18.28.04 # but just enabling it doesn't actually *create the database* with all your files in 18.28.18 # it's still empty after the reboot :) 18.28.19 # linuxstb: Rockbox Utility does check for an updated version, but not for an updated rbutil.ini. So releasing a new rbutil should be enough IMO. 18.29.31 Join TheSeven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 18.29.52 # toffe82: yeah, spotted your problem but haven't heard about it before. Will try to verify on a faked player later. 18.32.57 # I'm assuming the red for the player-sim on the build table is not related to my as3525 commits..... 18.35.57 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.37.48 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.38.21 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.38.37 # FlynDice: it's not, and it's still not clear what causes these unfortunately 18.38.44 # they are transient 18.39.20 # I was reading them just to be sure... ya never know I guess 18.39.51 # every now and then something seems to go wrong with the features file 18.45.00 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 18.46.54 Join Farthen [0] (i=55b08a90@gateway/web/freenode/x-elkqdjbcjszkdwgv) 18.48.53 # bluebrother: So do you think it's worthwhile creating symlinks, or can we rely on users doing as they're told and updating? 19.04.13 # not having symlinks would break it for all users until they upgrade. IMO this is a reasonable way to go -- we don't want to encourage using old versions of Rockbox Utility anyway, do we? ;-) 19.06.00 # but it might be a good idea to announce such a breakage on the front page. 19.06.55 Join krabador [0] (n=krabador@95.234.18.174) 19.08.13 Quit paddy1234 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.10.07 # domonoky: hello :-) 19.10.23 # Casainho: hi 19.11.20 # domonoky: are you using Mini2440? 19.12.27 # only sometimes for tests :-) not enough time.. damn long working hours.. 19.13.12 # hi , some rockbox 3.5 target? 19.13.28 Quit Guest26448 (Client Quit) 19.13.41 # what users can expect? 19.13.47 Join AlexP [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 19.14.00 # krabador: watch svn logs or the MajorChanges page 19.15.33 # domonoky: ok... are you doing/developing something on it? like the USB? 19.15.40 Quit Omlet (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.16.28 # domonoky: I am not using also my board... it's not useful for me... I hope to have a box to put it inside and then use it as home audio system, at my room 19.16.42 # Casainho: is started some USB work, but got stuck. 19.17.26 # domonoky: looks like a lot of people wants players with HDD... what can be the best path to have HDD for Mini2440? 19.17.33 # bluebrother, svn isn't things added in daily builds? 19.17.50 # domonoky: stuck? why? :-) you have JTAG debug and all documentation... ;-) 19.18.06 # Casainho: the best is probably Bob_Cs HDD adapter board if it works :-) 19.19.14 # domonoky: I am finalizing my 3D printer... I hope to be able to design and print a nice plastic enclosure for it... if so, I hope to be able to offer one for you and other for Bob_C 19.19.41 # Casainho: i got the first usb interrupt, but not more.. and i dont know much about USB, so its much work for me to continue this.. (maybe when i have holidays) 19.19.50 # domonoky: USB HDD would be better, I think... because it could have HDD, flash disk, etc... :-) 19.19.52 # i would know some developer's target (in hopes) for the next 3.5 19.19.54 # krabador: svn is things added. Daily builds is svn built once a day 19.20.18 # krabador: features aren't planned. They are done when someone does the work 19.20.32 # bluebrother, ok 19.20.36 # domonoky: maybe if a developer that knows USB bought that Mini2440... :-) 19.20.38 # Casainho: sure, if you get the USB driver working :-) 19.21.23 # also rockbox currently only has USB slave stack.. so you cant connect a USB hd, thats even more work to get a USB Host stack. 19.21.32 # domonoky: maybe we could make a kind of a bounty, for some developer to make USB working on it, not? like offering the hardware? (since it's not really expensive... 19.22.15 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.22.17 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.22.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.22.42 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.22.42 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 19.22.46 # Casainho: you could try the bounty thing, but i dont think that will work... rockbox devs need more free time, not more money :-) 19.23.01 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.23.11 # domonoky: but I mean giving the hardware, not money... 19.23.18 # And bounties aren't generally particularly liked 19.23.31 # As most work relies on lots of other people's work 19.23.42 # I would like to offer the hardware inside the enclosure, like a full system... 19.25.32 # I just would like to boost this project, and looks to me that is important for people get the hardware on his hands... 19.26.13 # * domonoky thinks the hardware as a bounty is difficult. the one developing USB need the hardware before they can begin the work. and what happens if they get stuck, or loose interrest ? 19.27.57 # domonoky: maybe as a compromise to pass it later to other if he do not finish the task 19.28.04 # offering a complete kit (mini2440+case+hd-board) would ofcourse be nice, and could boost development if some devs buy it. 19.29.25 # I would like to sell that package, a full system... however, I know will be illegal because of patents 19.29.38 # I must go now 19.29.44 # thanks :-) 19.29.46 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109125225]") 19.30.09 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 19.37.30 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick_B (i=0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.38.10 # rasher: can you update the theme site from svn ? i commited some fixes 19.38.42 # I can try. Unfortunately the site as it is running has some uncommitted fixes :\ 19.39.23 # ah you have fixes on theme, which arent in svn ? 19.39.38 # Yeah, I'm afraid so 19.39.55 # the first commit those back to svn, hoping for no conflicts :-) 19.40.03 # +n 19.40.08 # Yeah. 19.40.45 # i finally got around to setup my own test theme site, so i plan todo some more changes to the theme site. 19.41.04 # so having it in sync with svn would be good :-) 19.41.33 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 19.41.34 # Yeah. Problem is I broke my local copy, and I wasn't keen on committing directly from the theme site. I guess there's no harm 19.43.47 # yup, commiting the diff from the themesite directly should do no harm, it also doesnt matter if those config files contain the settings from the site, or arbitrary defaults.. so go for it :-) 19.49.01 Quit lostlogic ("leaving") 19.52.13 # Oh good, conflicts 19.52.36 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.57.29 # New commit by 03rasher (r23832): Commit current state of the theme site. Part one. 19.57.57 # New commit by 03rasher (r23833): Commit current state of the theme site. Part two. 19.58.07 # Let's hope I didn't horribly break something 19.59.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.00.54 # rasher: looks like you accidently reverted on fix from me in adminlist.tpl 20.01.24 # domonoky: do you mind fixing? I'll svn up 20.03.43 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.04.00 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r23834): Fix download urls in adminlist view. 20.08.03 Join lostlogic [50] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 20.13.29 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.13.30 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.15.08 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Strife89@adsl-146-197-34.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.18.15 Join JdGordon|| [0] (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-suhibzjjzmbueidp) 20.18.40 # rasher: what changed? 20.19.53 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.20.18 # kugel: Bugfixes. I'm sorry about the lack of commit message. The changes were done over the course of what, 6 months, and I rushed a bit to commit it so domonoky could continue 20.21.24 # I'd have to look at the diff to figure out what changed 20.22.00 # was it what the actual theme site was using or is that running from svn? 20.22.20 # I committed the changes which were on the theme site 20.22.29 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.23.20 # alright 20.23.24 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.73.219) 20.27.29 Quit krabador ("Sto andando via") 20.29.35 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.29.36 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.30.22 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.31.46 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.31.47 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.32.41 # * domonoky thinks about allowing theme uploaders to update their themes. There are two ways: checkbox + unique key from emailvalidation on the upload page (easier) or build a complete user area where users can log in, and manage their themes (similar to the admin view but only with their own themes) 20.33.04 # 2nd sounds good 20.33.13 # + lots of work :) 20.33.56 Join webguest49 [0] (n=5ec25ac8@giant.haxx.se) 20.34.10 # 2nd is more work, and also requires database restructuring (there is no table for uploaders for now, they are stored in the themes table) 20.34.20 # it would actually be nice to let other people update themes they don't own 20.34.38 # that might need a moderation step though 20.34.40 Quit webguest49 (Client Quit) 20.34.57 # 1st is pretty easy, and only needs a new column in the db (currently the code for emailvalidation is reset, so we need to safe it at another place too) 20.38.01 # keys would be annoying for users wouldnt it? unless each user has one key for all their themes 20.39.19 Part watto 20.39.36 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g229188033.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.39.47 # we already send a key for email validation for every theme you add. but at the moment we delete the key in the db, when the user has confirmed the theme. 20.40.17 # why can't just everybody update any theme? 20.40.30 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@e176121201.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.40.43 # kugel: because the you somehow need to moderate it, you will get vandalismus. 20.40.49 # really? 20.41.11 # can we tie the file storage in with svn? 20.41.21 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.41.24 # doesn't/didn't that system work for years in the wiki (including WpsGallery)? 20.41.26 # kugel: remember the vandalism in the wiki? It's the reason for that two-step signup requirement 20.41.58 # kugel: wiki has history, theme page not. if you delete a theme its gone. 20.42.28 # it would be nice if we could transfer the wiki accounts to the theme site, for logging in then 20.42.30 # but we could ofcourse just set them hidden if a user send in a updated theme. 20.42.52 # *cough* svn/git backend for storage 20.43.07 # no need to worry about accidental deletes and stuff 20.43.17 # domonoky1: someone needs to make the theme site using a svn / git backend :) 20.43.29 # * bluebrother too slow 20.44.01 # * domonoky1 looks around for mister someone.. 20.45.21 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.45.59 # if someone wants todo that, i can provide him with a vmware image with a test themepage :-) 20.46.15 # that shuoldnt be too hard... just do a svn ci -M "theme 'blaa' upload by 'blaa's email'" after the zip uploads 20.47.07 # domonoky: I'm game.. wheres the vm image? 20.47.54 # JdGordon||: i first have to change the passwords, then i can upload it somewhere if you want. 20.48.20 # thats probably a really useful image to have around anyway :) 20.49.28 # the only thing which doesnt work in this image, is the emailing of the themesite, but its probably just a missing/incorrect sendmail config 20.50.07 # your ISP doesnt block port 25 outgoing does it? 20.52.10 # i dont think so. 20.52.17 # What about deleting themes? If a theme author has "released" a theme under a permissive licence, do we want them to be able to remove it? 20.52.35 # I realise that this is difficult, as we want them to be able to update/fix them :) 20.53.29 # AlexP: i think only allowing a remove if they send in a working update is enough :-) 20.54.24 # ccbysa doesnt let you revoke the license does it? 20.55.19 # JdGordon||: do you have a place to where i can upload this test-themepage image ? 20.55.21 # domonoky1: yeah - could still be easily abused (upload a theme with just %ia for example - it works, but isn't the actual theme), but I think we'll never get anything done if we go to the end cases. 20.55.51 # AlexP: maybe just rename and hide the old-one ? 20.56.38 # domonoky1: A good plan - that way if someone does muck about we have the old one to restore 20.56.39 # domonoky:I dont tihnk so.. how big is it? 20.57.09 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.57.12 # JdGordon||: still compressing, but probably 200-300MB ? 20.58.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.00.08 # Problem is verifying that only the author is able to update/fix a theme (other people's fixes should probably be under a different name, no?) 21.00.32 # rasher: we could reuse the key from emailvalidation ? 21.00.58 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 21.01.02 # Yeah, probably a good idea 21.01.10 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.01.26 # we just need a new colum in the themespage and store it permanently. 21.02.10 # and ofcourse a few input fields, and bit of logic. but shouldnt be too complicated. 21.04.48 # domonoky1: ok got ftp going 21.05.28 Nick JdGordon|| is now known as JdGordon| (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-suhibzjjzmbueidp) 21.06.18 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 21.06.42 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r23835): Sansa AMS: Reduce MCICLK speed on SD cards to 31 MHz. ... 21.06.48 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r23836): Sansa AMS: The internal SD does not use the IDE AHB interface so remove references to it. It does use the other non AHB interface. 21.08.37 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.10.19 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 21.11.05 # rasher: domonoky1: what would be really nice is if themes could be grouped, so the people who upload 10 themes where the only difference is in the colours could all show up together and a drop list shows the different versions 21.11.17 # that would work for people doing a small edit of others' themes 21.11.59 # JdGordon|: sounds nice :-) 21.15.04 # FlynDice: did you do performane (read/write speed) tests? 21.15.46 # not performance, just write & verify. 21.15.48 # there are many things which could need improvement on the theme page. for example a button to report problems with a theme would also be nice. 21.16.38 # I get data crc failures with writes at 15 MHz so I've left the internals at 31 MHz for now 21.19.52 # domonoky1: Do users have the ability to overwrite themes yet? 21.20.07 # * Llorean thinks that one should be able to replace an older theme by simply naming it the same thing and having it be using the same screen size. 21.20.11 # Llorean: nope, they have to ask an admin 21.20.25 # With a warning of course. "A theme already with this name exists in 320x240 - are you sure you wish to replace it?" 21.21.03 # The wiki allows Joe to replace Bob's theme, the theme site might as well too. Maybe with an email to the original author to give notice (if we keep email addresses, I think we do?) 21.21.21 # Llorean: if we have some way to revert this, i think thats fine.. but at the moment it would be competley gone if we delete it 21.21.38 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.23.50 # makes sense 21.25.03 # FlynDice: why? 21.25.21 # I mean, why didn't you do speed tests 21.25.30 # kugel: why not performance? 21.26.22 # kugel: get a chance to look at 10824? 21.27.06 # kugel: Performance wasn't an issue, the problem was that the cards were being run at overclocked frequencies. The internals are still overclocked but not by nearly as much. 21.28.15 # JdGordon|: don't ask me everyday, I'll get at it when I have time 21.28.37 # I'm not waiting around forever... 21.31.14 # FlynDice: well, but performance is still not unimportant 21.32.50 # kugel: So are you saying you want to run the cards at frequencies over the spec if the performance is better? 21.33.09 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com) 21.33.24 Join kugel_ [0] (n=kugel@e178100158.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.33.58 # FlynDice: it's also interesting to see what drawbacks doing things right has 21.34.16 # no, I didn't say anything like that 21.34.35 # I said doing speed test when doing this kind of changes is good 21.35.32 # kugel: Ok, I see where you're coming from, when I find all that extra time I've misplaced perhaps I can get to it.. ;-) 21.36.39 # FYI: domonoky1's theme site test VM is available at http://usa.jdgordon.info/rockbox/test-themesite.7z if anyone wants it or wants to mirror it 21.36.52 # 135MB 21.41.47 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.44.26 # 3 weeks to release right? 21.47.01 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.47.16 # yea 21.48.40 # crap :/ 21.49.10 # so much for all the extra themeing we wanted in this one :p 21.50.04 # I'm satisfied :) 21.51.08 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.51.18 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (n=kugel@e178100158.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.53.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 21.59.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.01.06 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-150-85.si.res.rr.com) 22.12.07 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.18.05 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.19.03 # is there any way to get rockbox to behave like the A-B button does in the file browser in the iriver firmware - that is play the selected track next and then continue to play through the folder (and the rest of the filesystem from that point)? the "play next" playlist option just plays that one file then seems to jump away further down the alphabet and play from there. cheers :) 22.20.15 # rjg: no, not without implementing that feature. You can replace a playlist, but you'd need to do that on a folder 22.22.35 # ah, right 22.22.36 # thanks 22.22.58 # it's probably the only thing I miss about the original firmware (H300) 22.23.40 Join Omlet [0] (i=omlet05@91.176.184.6) 22.27.14 # what's the correct route to go down for a feature suggestion? obviously it's very low priority, just a "would be nice", but perhaps someone might have time for it :) 22.28.40 # and I know technically (for those with the coding skills) it's probably not difficult to implement, it's more whether it's felt the feature should be included 22.30.47 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r23837): Name some unnamed GridLayouts. Fixes uic warnings about names being used multiple times. 22.31.36 # rjg: well, we have a "feature suggestings" subforum. You can discuss it there, and maybe someone reading it is interested enough to work on it 22.31.48 # cool, thanks bluebrother 22.31.59 # rjg: if i understand you correctly it might not be that easy due to how rocbox' playlist system works 22.32.34 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.95.228) 22.32.53 # usually it will just follow the filesystem *untill* you manipulate the current playlist 22.33.04 Quit Tomis (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.33.06 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.95.228) 22.33.10 # so if you add a track in the playlist it will no longer be a dir it's playing but a playlist 22.33.22 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 22.35.25 # right 22.35.46 # so it couldn't just be told to jump to that part of the filesystem and carry on just going through the filesystem from that file? 22.36.21 # I was imagining such a feature would just go under the main context menu perhaps, rather than be part of the playlist functionality as as you say, it's outwith how it works 22.36.59 Quit lostlogic ("leaving") 22.37.10 # you could insert the top level directly, so it would play everything in order. 22.37.21 # alternatively you can use the dirskip feature 22.38.38 # I found the feature on the iriver useful when using the iriver in a car for example, you chould quickly bring up the file browser and flick to a particular song in an album and hit A-B and it would play that and then carry on from there 22.39.05 # actually, knowing the dir structure I could sometimes even browse to something without looking at the screen 22.41.29 # wouldnt auto-change directory do just that ? 22.41.39 # rjg: you can do basically the same if you have your songs in a playlist and just insert/queue next the wanted track in that playlist 22.41.56 # yeah I know, but it requires putting everything into a playlist 22.42.01 # domonoky1: doesn't it give up if you start modifying the playlist? 22.43.03 # with auto-change directory, you should be able to just "play" a file, which creates playlist with the selected file first, at the end-of playlist it should continue in the next folder... at least thats how i think it works :-) 22.43.17 # yeah that works no prob 22.43.23 # it's when you want to queue the file up 22.43.41 # perhaps I should put it another way - a delayed play option :) 22.44.05 # so it just does the same as playing a file, but not until the current file has finished playing 22.44.14 # that makes more sense 22.44.15 # the "play dir" functianality, while usefull is a bit of a hack imo 22.44.28 # functionality* 22.44.53 # rjg: that's what insert/queue next will do 22.45.26 # they don't seem to work right if you're just playing through the filesystem and haven't made a playlist 22.45.28 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.45.46 # maybe some special case for queueing in a dir playlist could be made so it can go on thinking it's a dir playlist after the queued file has played 22.46.04 # rjg: then that's a bug 22.46.28 # uh, re-read what you said, no intended 22.46.52 # I'll fire the iriver up and test it to be sure - that's what it did earlier 22.47.27 # the "play a file to play the dir" functionality is a bit of a special case 22.47.45 # right 22.48.09 # all the playlist operations work with the selected file/dir 22.49.11 # so a "play at end of song" context option would be needed :-) 22.49.12 # thinking of it along the lines of simply doing the exact same thing as selecting (playing) a file in file browser while a song is playing, but not until the currently playing song has finished, does it make it any easier to implement? rather than messing with the playlist functionality 22.49.21 # right 22.49.57 # amiconn: about pre-combining font images before drawing... would we just want to have a fixed buffer for it in iram, and pre-combine as many columns as possible (since height will vary), then draw that to LCD, repeating as needed to complete the string? 22.51.34 # rjg: dont' think so, the reason is that a few things only work for the special case of a clean dir playlist created by "just plaing a file" (auto-change dir and dirskip) if you modify such a playlist in any way the playlist code thinks it's a regular dynamic playlist and dirskip and auto change-dir will no longer work 22.53.43 # ok 22.54.01 # n1s: thats probably not really a problem "playing a file" creates a new playlist. so if we just delay that action to the end of song (dont know how hard that would be) it should work. 22.54.23 # yeah that's what I'm thinking domonoky1 22.55.13 # domonoky1: ah, you mean a "nuke this playlist and pretend you played this file from the filebrowser, only after the playlist finished!" ? ;) 22.55.27 # jup 22.55.36 # except, not really the playlist as such, but the currently playing file in any playlist 22.55.43 # and yes nuke the playlist 22.56.00 Quit Omlet ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 22.56.28 # n1s: after end of current song, not playlist. 22.56.42 # that will be one hard to describe option then :) 22.56.55 # "play after end of song" 22.57.28 # as it will AFAIU do *exactly* what "play next" does only with the "pretend you played this file from the filebrowser" part 22.57.36 # it could even work on any file :-) ie show a image after end of song :-) 22.58.28 # I know it's probably not a feature most people are familiar with, what with rockbox being so cross-platform, but as an ex iriver firmware user it's (to me) quite a useful feature which I do miss and I reckon could be useful for others 22.59.03 # I'm not one for making up playlists you see, I'm very much a decide what to play next when that time comes sort of guy 23.00.04 # rjg: i usually just insert my whole music dir in a paylist and if i want something special right now, just insert that next' 23.01.22 # aye, having an organised dir structure (something I got used to from the iriver firmware days) means that I find it easier to use the filesystem I guess 23.02.05 # i use the filesystem to do this 23.02.24 # but yes, if you like it this way :) 23.12.52 Quit petur ("Zzzzzzz") 23.12.52 # I'll put it on the forum and see what people think I guess :) 23.16.59 Quit Tomis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.19 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 23.23.30 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.30.50 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 23.35.07 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.36.06 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 23.37.34 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.102.111) 23.43.44 Quit CaTeR ("Verlassend") 23.52.02 Quit bertrik ("De groeten")