--- Log for 16.12.109 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 14 hours ago 00.00.16 Part kkurbjunW 00.00.59 Join funman [0] (n=fun@86.66.143.7) 00.01.26 Join HellDragon_ [0] (n=jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.01.41 Nick funman is now known as Guest35646 (n=fun@86.66.143.7) 00.02.08 Quit alexbobp (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.08 Quit fyre^OS (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.08 Quit hd (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.08 Quit SIGSEGV (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.08 Quit efyx_ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.08 Quit crwll (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.08 Quit erikw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.02.13 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-150-85.si.res.rr.com) 00.02.30 NJoin alexbobp [0] (n=alex@66.112.249.238) 00.02.39 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 00.03.09 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.03.27 Nick Guest35646 is now known as namnuf (n=fun@86.66.143.7) 00.04.39 NJoin fyre^OS [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-150-85.si.res.rr.com) 00.04.39 Join hd [0] (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 00.04.39 NJoin efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 00.04.39 NJoin crwll [0] (n=crwlll@a91-156-100-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 00.04.39 NJoin erikw [0] (n=erik@c-67-182-132-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.04.39 NJoin SIGSEGV [0] (n=user@61.250.113.98) 00.04.46 Quit fyrestorm (Killed by douglas.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 00.05.10 Quit hd (SendQ exceeded) 00.05.11 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-143-7.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.05.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.06.57 Quit loyx ("-=SysReset 2.55=-") 00.11.53 Quit PaulJam (Nick collision from services.) 00.11.53 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3247.gwdg.de) 00.11.58 # so how do people feel about a tracker clean up? 00.12.00 # and closing stupidly old bugs without any feedback or repro? 00.13.35 # we should do some cleanup in some way, definitely. 00.13.40 # * gevaerts agrees 00.14.04 # We shouldn't overdo it of course 00.14.10 # question is if we should do it as a tracker cleanup week / month, bughunting month after the next release, or any other way 00.15.16 Quit ps-auxw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit FlynDice (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit pixelma_ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit nosa-j (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit linuxguy3 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit elcan (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit fish_ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit crashd (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit Unhelpful (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit reid02 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit tmzt (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit Horscht (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit Lss (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit Topy (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit gibbon_ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit rvvs89 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit amiconn (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit scorche (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit togetic (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.16 Quit z35 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.19.34 # well, I brought it up because we decided to postpone the release because people thought we arnt at a releasable state... but there is no way to know how far away we are... 00.19.35 # so IMO we should do it before release 00.19.36 Nick namnuf is now known as funman^ (n=fun@86.66.143.7) 00.19.37 # before the release means during christmas. Which is likely to get less attention. 00.20.15 # well, I wonder how much attention it will get anyway... but I dont really see how we can release given the past discussion unless we do it 00.20.22 # using the next 2 weeks for it would be good 00.20.33 # and if we need to do it again after xmas so be it 00.22.05 # B4gder: you still round? 00.22.15 # yeps 00.22.30 NJoin ps-auxw [0] (n=arneb@dyn37.ps-auxw.de) 00.22.30 NJoin pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@p57A0EB2F.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.22.30 NJoin amiconn [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.22.30 NJoin z35 [0] (n=z35@ool-45714f83.dyn.optonline.net) 00.22.30 NJoin togetic [0] (n=togetic@c-71-228-183-181.hsd1.al.comcast.net) 00.22.30 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3013.gwdg.de) 00.22.30 NJoin reid02 [0] (n=reid02@CPE00226b5e2074-CM000e5c6ebb22.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.22.30 NJoin rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 00.22.30 NJoin FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.22.30 NJoin Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm91.delta92.maxonline.com.sg) 00.22.30 NJoin scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.22.30 NJoin Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.22.30 NJoin Topy [0] (n=topy@my.fastsh.it) 00.22.30 NJoin gibbon_ [0] (i=gibbon_@not.a.servant4you.org) 00.22.30 NJoin tmzt [0] (n=tmzt@99.164.34.42) 00.22.30 NJoin nosa-j [0] (n=k@adsl-235-26-175.clt.bellsouth.net) 00.22.30 NJoin elcan [0] (i=user36@pr0.us) 00.22.30 NJoin linuxguy3 [0] (n=timj@adsl-76-202-217-123.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 00.22.30 NJoin Unhelpful [0] (n=quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 00.22.30 NJoin crashd [0] (i=foobar@lostnode.org) 00.22.30 NJoin fish_ [0] (n=fish@freigeist.org) 00.22.33 # can you add some release names to the tracker please? 00.23.05 # sure 00.23.17 # ta 00.23.18 Quit liar (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.23.47 # really only 3.5 is needed, assuming anyone wants to mark a bug as a show stopper 00.24.44 # B4gder: while you're at it, can you also add rbutil svn and rbutil 1.2.3? 00.26.04 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 00.26.40 # done 00.27.04 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.28.38 # thanks 00.30.13 Quit fyre^OS (Connection timed out) 00.30.32 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-69-203-150-85.si.res.rr.com) 00.45.37 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.46.00 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 01.03.13 Quit funman^ ("free(random());") 01.07.56 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.08.21 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 01.13.25 Quit GeekShadow ("The cake is a lie !") 01.14.45 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 01.17.15 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.17.48 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.59.00 Part toffe82 02.03.09 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 02.05.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.19 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.15.44 Quit togetic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.19.49 Part froggyman 02.34.31 Join ball [0] (n=ball@adsl-99-144-164-206.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 02.34.41 Join Rondom [0] (n=quassel@dslb-084-057-152-236.pools.arcor-ip.net) 02.35.45 # Is ipodpatcher for Linux a binary? 02.36.17 # you can get the sources if you prefer 02.37.51 # JdGordon|: I'm not sure if they'd compile on NetBSD 02.38.06 # I'd be surprosed if they didnt 02.38.36 # Where does the firmware live once it's installed? On the same filesystem as the music files? 02.39.19 # depends what you want to call the firmware 02.39.35 # Sorry, I meant the Rockbox bootloader 02.39.40 # the bootloader lives seperatly and loads a rockbox binary from the same filesystem with your music 02.40.35 # Does all of Rockbox (excluding the Bootloader) live in that .rockbox directory I got when I unzipped the Rockbox zip file? 02.40.45 # yes 02.40.55 # I may just give this a try 02.40.59 # (wish me luck! ;-) 02.41.25 # its a good system 02.41.26 # :) 02.41.31 Nick Xenocide21|afk is now known as xenocide21 (n=Xenocide@host-98-127-152-242.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) 02.43.38 # xenocide21: I know that Rockbox is, I've been using it for years. I install it so infrequently that I forget the details though. 02.43.47 # It's stable and just sits there and does its job. 02.43.51 # (in my experience) 02.44.01 # yep 02.44.06 # and great for ipod 02.44.15 # brb 02.44.23 # for example, itunes isnt compatable with Windows XP x64 02.44.27 # :P 02.44.31 Quit Rondom (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.46.35 # now finding music i want to drop in it is the challenge 02.50.24 Quit Rondom_ (Connection timed out) 02.50.56 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.57.26 # Somehow I'm still in Rockbox 3.3, but at least it's still booting. 02.57.50 # perhaps you neglected to unzip the newer build? 02.59.30 # krazykit`: I unzipped /something/ ;-) 02.59.35 # Anyway, this'll work. 02.59.41 # xenocide21: I don't run MS Windows 03.00.04 # i does 03.00.05 # :P 03.01.04 # where do i put the pacman roms? 03.01.06 # lol 03.01.22 # xenocide21: ? 03.01.40 # nevermind 03.02.00 # rockbox has pacman :P but you need roms for it, so i downloaded them 03.02.02 # I unsoldered a Pacman ROM once 03.02.15 # 24 pin mask-programmed ROM 03.02.23 # ...so that I could put a socket on the cartridge 03.02.36 # why 03.02.56 # xenocide21: ...I was experimenting with EPROMs 03.03.05 # ...but the pinout was subtly different. 03.03.09 # probably some reason unrelated to rockbox :) 03.04.15 # * ball nods 03.04.26 # ##electronics ;-) 03.04.36 # yay pacman works 03.05.05 # Does Rockbox have a layer of Linux in it? uclinux? 03.05.17 # nope 03.05.46 # krazykit`: written against the bare metal? 03.06.02 # it has to 03.06.07 # because its a linux bootloader 03.06.16 # it's not a linux bootloader 03.06.21 # the hell it aint 03.06.24 # at least for most of the targets 03.06.25 # i asks for a linux kernel 03.06.43 # what? no part of rockbox asks you for a linux kernel 03.06.44 # i booted into the boot l hë¸åþp- êþrockbox on it 03.06.50 # it said it couldnt find a linux kernel 03.07.06 # oh, for loading ipodlinux 03.07.09 # i didnt say rockbox 03.07.14 # the bootloader did 03.07.27 # so there has to be some sort of connection between linux and rockbox 03.07.39 # DOS has a bootloader too ;-) 03.07.45 # point? 03.07.45 # yes, the rockbox bootloader for the ipods can boot into ipodlinux. that doesn't mean rockbox contains linux 03.07.51 # ...as does CP/M and just about everything else :-) 03.07.54 # its not a linux bootloader 03.08.18 # ipodlinux hehe :P was thinkin about it actually 03.08.33 # 32 megs of ram on this ipod, i dunno what its CPU is but id imagine around 10MHz 03.08.33 # I'm guessing my iPod mini has some sort of ARM variant in it. 03.08.34 Quit fdinel (Connection timed out) 03.08.56 # i believe ipods are Z80 cpus 03.08.59 # xenocide21: probably closer to 100 MHz, but it may lack a PMMU 03.09.06 # it's documented on the rockbox wiki 03.09.11 # O.o 03.09.15 # 100mhz on an ipod? 03.09.26 # dual-core 80mhz ARM processor 03.09.28 # Alright, call it 50 MHz 03.09.31 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 03.09.33 # Oh, I was close! :-) 03.09.57 # xenocide21, why would you be shocked by this? the gigabeat S has an arm clocked at 500-some mhz 03.09.59 # ipods use Samsung ARM processors 03.10.04 # and i havent found the speed yet 03.10.23 # xenocide21: 4.77 MHz ;-) 03.10.44 # your sure? 03.12.02 # CPU: ARM7TDMI CPU Speed: dual 80 MHz embedded 03.12.26 # thats not bad actually 03.12.29 # xenocide21: That was an XT reference. Interesting stuff though. 03.12.46 # XT? 03.12.48 # Does it have hardware MP3 decode? 03.12.58 # xenocide21: IBM 5150 03.12.59 # uhm 03.13.02 # no it wasnt 03.13.07 # http://history.eis.net.au/ipod_nano_2g.html 03.13.13 # mines a 1g but still 03.13.14 # no. the hwcodec devices do (the very earliest ports) 03.13.18 # id imagine the same 03.13.43 # I wondered whether they had to work harder when playing Ogg/Vorbis than MP3 03.13.52 # 1g nano is the same, dual core 80mhz arm 03.13.59 # s/they/iPods/ 03.14.24 # so 32 megs of RAM and a dual core 80MHz cpu 03.14.37 # hmm... linux might not be too bad on it 03.15.00 # xenocide21: Linux requires a PMMU though, right? 03.15.10 # ...and ideally an FPU too. 03.15.11 # 16 bit color 03.15.11 # ball, i believe that it does take more cpu time, but i don't think the difference is tremendous. you could to a test_codec run to see 03.15.20 # linux will run on this ipod 03.15.27 # ive seen linux on older ipods 03.16.08 # it would be more like a PDA than a computer however 03.16.22 # so im not concerned about any speed loss that might occur due to lack of hardware 03.16.47 # well, talk of linux is offtopic for this channel 03.16.56 # but its already patched with the bootloader :) so itll be easier to set up 03.17.06 # Is there an OS underneath Rockbox though? 03.17.08 # know what else is off topic? 03.17.14 # xenocide21: pies? 03.17.19 # my friend got genital herpies from his girlfriend he broke up with 03.17.43 # * ball finds it disturbing that "pies" is a subset of "herpies" 03.17.52 # lol 03.17.55 # ...but not herpes, which I think is how it's spelled 03.18.06 # whatever 03.18.15 # ball, rockbox IS the os 03.18.24 # woah wait 03.18.26 # Anyway, thanks Rockbox people, for all your good work. 03.18.35 # i thought rockbox was only compatable with ipods with disk drives? 03.18.53 # the front page lists the various targets rockbox runs on 03.18.56 # my nano has flash memory... 03.19.23 # I should check whether it works with the new Classics, which appeal to me. 03.19.33 # it doesn't. 03.19.34 Join Rondom [0] (n=quassel@dslb-084-057-155-051.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.19.38 # I think those lack Firewire, but if Rockbox worked I'd be willing to overlook that. 03.19.42 # those are 5g and 6g ipods, so they dont 03.19.47 # Ah, scratch that idea then. 03.19.54 # the 5g is the ipod video, which IS supported 03.20.00 # oh? 03.20.05 # i herd it wasnt 03.20.10 # you heard wrong 03.20.14 # i guess so 03.20.20 Quit grndslm (Remote closed the connection) 03.20.32 # i know 2g nano isnt, why not? 03.20.53 # there's a good amount of code in svn now for the 2g nano now, actually 03.21.17 # but the problem was no way to run 3rd party code and no information on the undocumented internal hardware 03.21.49 # the 2g isnt much different than the 1g 03.21.57 # mostly the same hardware 03.22.03 # no, not really at all. 03.22.21 # the 1g and 2g ipods are, but you can't say the same about the nano 03.22.29 # uhm 03.22.32 # i can too 03.22.40 # because i just read specs on both 03.22.54 Quit dmb (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.23.09 Quit Tomis (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.23.16 # both nano 1g and 2g have same cpu, identical ram, different sizes, same color bit rate, the nano 2g has a little bigger screen however 03.23.33 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 03.23.44 # that doesn't mean the chipsets are the same 03.23.54 # oh and the nano 2G has an 8mb rom 03.24.09 # 1g only has a 4MB rom 03.24.40 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.24.51 # the 1st gen nano, 1-5gen ipods, the ipod mini 1g, some sansas, and a couple other players use the portaplayer chipset 03.24.57 # the nano 2g uses a samsung one 03.25.17 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-143-7.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 03.25.22 # yeah i noticed that 03.25.56 # the mini 2g also uses PP 03.25.58 # i wonder why the site even mentions the shuffle -_- 03.26.32 # I wonder if we'll ever find the shuffle I bought my wife 03.27.53 # Is the 80 Gbyte the last iPod video to support Rockbox? 03.27.57 # (so far ;-) 03.30.01 # i think apple fucked up on the 1g shuffle 03.30.08 # they could have had a lil LCD display on it 03.30.25 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.70.237) 03.31.26 # anyway 03.31.59 # i dont see how its so hard to support the 2g seeing as rockbox dev's built it based on reverse engineering, simple enough to reverse engineer an ipod 03.32.04 # 2g nano* 03.32.05 # * 03.32.24 # "support" means that it works quite well, among other qualifiers 03.32.35 # indeed 03.32.37 # that's not the case, as a few parts are missing and a few unstable 03.32.51 # are you a dev? 03.32.57 # for rockbox :P 03.33.04 # no, but i spend far too much time in here apparently 03.33.09 # lol 03.33.19 # "simple enough" == volunteering? 03.33.21 # i was gonna tell you to get your arse to work! lol 03.34.16 # In addition to redesigning the iPod nano itself, Apple made the packaging 52% smaller which reduced the amount of fossil fuels used during distribution. However, the packaging was no longer cardboard, but some kind of acrylic which is not recyclable 03.34.26 # -_- wtf is the point of that? 03.35.09 # perhaps you should refresh yourself on the rules and what's on and off topic? 03.35.32 # perhaps you should shut your pie hole, because i dont see a discussion going on thats on topic 03.35.46 # im not intruding on anyones valuable time 03.36.14 # yo ops just kickban this kid, he was doing this earlier today 03.36.28 # kid? im 20 as of yesterday thanks 03.36.34 Join Stroller [0] (n=Stroller@213-152-39-89.dsl.eclipse.net.uk) 03.36.37 # Did someone say "pie"? 03.36.41 Mode "#rockbox +o JdGordon " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 03.36.43 # hello Stroller 03.36.45 # PIE IS AWESOME 03.36.47 # lol 03.36.47 Mode "#rockbox +o Unhelpful " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 03.36.55 # xenocide21: this is not a social channel.. shuttup or get kicked 03.37.30 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 03.37.33 # Yes sir! *salutes* 03.37.37 Mode "#rockbox +b %xenocide*!*Xenocide@*.bresnan.net " by Unhelpful (n=quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 03.37.37 Warn Banlist contains 19 bans! 03.37.39 Mode "#rockbox -o JdGordon " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 03.37.45 # hehe 03.37.48 # or we can just mute :) 03.38.20 Part xenocide21 03.38.48 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.38.52 Quit FOAD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.38.52 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 03.41.03 # Hey, ball. :D 03.41.09 # Hey, everyone 03.56.06 # I'll probably be back a bit later. I'm rebooting and recabling. 03.56.09 Quit ball ("leaving") 04.05.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.08.58 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 04.28.38 Mode "#rockbox -b %xenocide*!*Xenocide@*.bresnan.net " by Unhelpful (n=quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 04.28.46 Mode "#rockbox -o Unhelpful " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 04.42.23 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 04.55.40 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 05.09.01 Join sdubois [0] (n=sdubois@c-24-63-173-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 05.09.16 # can anyone recommend a player that is not an ipod? 05.11.41 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.11.41 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 05.22.40 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-206-154.mcn.bellsouth.net) 05.27.16 # hi there 05.27.51 # :) 05.28.06 # there was an issue with one of my build hosts, rockhost2.jjim.de-gibbon_, ... I just resolved it 05.28.28 # sdubois: I can't, but out of curiosity, why not an ipod? 05.28.31 # whom do I ask to reenable it? 05.29.22 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 05.30.15 # i am very sorry, but there was an error in the virtual machine configuration 05.32.38 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r24018): Unblock rockhost2.jjim.de-gibbon_ - problem resolved 05.32.44 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.33.08 # gibbon_: done 05.33.39 # mc2739: thank you very much. 05.34.19 # the client sais it is still locked, but i guess, this will change on its own soon? 05.36.00 # Stroller: I use an ipod now and I'd like to try something new 05.36.28 # ok, ty 05.36.37 # gibbon_: yes, the should update itself shortly 05.36.59 # add a "sever" where appropriate 05.37.17 # server even 05.38.15 # ;) 05.39.40 # i have a little bit of a bad feeling about restarting the build client every X seconds.. is there some "grace period" for running the buildclient against the server? is 60s ok? 05.40.54 # that should be fine 05.41.02 # ok, thanks then 05.42.01 # is there any work being done on the iriver E100? 06.04.18 Part TaZzZ 06.05.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.09.06 Quit alexbobp (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.09.06 Quit Slasheri (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit jon-kha (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit antil33t (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit Zambezi (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit rphillips (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit rasher (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit Hadaka (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit ehntoo_ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit aevin (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit jasio (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit BHSPitMonkey (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.09.06 Quit krazykit` 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(n=matsl@dhcp126.contactor.se) 07.11.54 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.18.25 Quit liar (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.21.49 Quit arcticfang ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.30.06 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.32.25 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r24019): Sansa AMS: Use small write delay for all non-HS cards including the internal SD to prevent data corruption. ... 07.56.46 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r24020): Sansa AMS: Make write delay work for non-MULTIDRIVE. 07.58.10 # meh, just compiled r24018 and then you start fixing things again :) 07.59.14 # silly me.. ;-) 07.59.47 # have you read the forum posts about corruption problems? 08.02.47 # all green , bedtime for me! 08.05.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.06.02 # i have yes 08.06.05 # that's why i want to try it 08.06.10 # haven't had them myself yet though 08.15.53 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.21.39 Quit ball ("leaving") 08.33.02 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@dhcp113.contactor.se) 08.33.04 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.38.22 Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) 08.38.37 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 08.40.05 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3146.gwdg.de) 08.51.29 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.51.55 Join Kitar|st [0] (i=Kitarist@BSN-143-143-145.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 08.56.21 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 08.58.49 Quit xavieran (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.59.08 # so do we really not want to close old bugs which wont ever be fixed? 08.59.10 # 5930 for example 08.59.27 # 5877 also 09.02.15 Quit Kitr88 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.02.32 # "Won't ever be" in what way? 09.03.41 # in the "going by past experience, and in all likelyhood" way 09.04.00 # Then no, if they're something we want fixed still they should stay open. 09.04.20 # If they're something that we intentionally won't fix even if someone comes up with a good fix patch, then they should probably be closed. 09.04.31 Part Stroller 09.04.37 # if the people that really wanted them fixed, wanted them fixed, then they'd be fixed already 09.04.43 # But it's kinda silly to close them if they're really a bug, just because nobody has the time. It's misleading. "We're not going to track this because we just don't care." 09.04.50 # JdGordon: So why close them? 09.05.10 # to make the bugs which actually have a chance of being fixed more visible 09.05.22 # huh? 09.06.59 # Doesn't closing them just mislead people, and make it more likely duplicates will be filed? 09.07.16 # yes 09.07.18 # GodEater, you were saying you added that patch to svn? 09.07.21 # if they were big issues there would be duplicates anyway 09.07.26 # Not to mention, new people looking for things to fix aren't going to search *closed* tasks. 09.07.28 # DogBoy: no I didn't say that 09.07.47 # I said I resync'd it so that it would apply to current svn - the patch as it was yesterday would have failed to apply. 09.08.33 # ah 09.10.22 # there's not been enough feedback from other devs about whether or not it should be commited 09.10.43 # * JdGordon thinks the tracker state is fairly pointless 09.10.44 # unlike some people, I wait for approval ;) 09.10.58 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host140-41-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.11.06 # probably half the of the bugs can be closed as no repro or fixed or "stop being stupid" 09.11.20 # JdGordon: maybe in your world 09.11.42 # * JdGordon wonders which of us doesnt live in the real world then 09.11.52 # you think fixed and no repro bugs should stay open? 09.12.31 # if you care to go through and confirm all these "fixed" bugs, by all means close them. 09.14.09 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.17.05 # anyone use bookmarks? 09.18.42 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r24021): Fix FS#9198 - make the delete bookmark option confirm the action 09.19.17 # that's a nice fix 09.19.27 # it was very easy to accidentally remove bookmarks 09.19.35 # test it! 09.19.41 # sure 09.19.50 # :) 09.23.36 # if i keep testing things i really need to murder the 'updating database' thing on my fuze 09.23.43 # in the OF that is 09.26.08 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 09.27.02 # JdGordon: it will always ask to delete /.rockbox/most-recent.bmark ? 09.27.15 # no idea :) 09.27.21 # i tihnk from the menu.. 09.27.29 # ok, same line without question mark 09.28.02 # Hey, anyone note the missing images for Archos FM Recorder/Recorder v2 on http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml ? 09.28.17 # http://build.rockbox.org/ has images... 09.28.32 # JdGordon: that file contains ALL bookmarks. i really don't want to delete the entire file, just the selected line in it 09.29.33 # ah, the behaviour is right 09.29.38 # only the selected line gets deleted 09.29.41 # the prompt text is wrong 09.29.54 # wrong how? 09.30.28 # like i wrote, the prompt is 'Delete? /.rockbox/most-recent.bmark' 09.30.42 # but that's not what happens. the selected line FROM that file gets deleted, not the file itself 09.32.27 # grrr :/ 09.33.22 # if you can have it prompt the name of the bookmark line, it is perfecter 09.33.38 # the number is about as good as it can be 09.33.39 # pondlife: Yes, tomers broke it earlier 09.33.40 # or make it 'Delete the selected bookmark?' without using the filename 09.33.44 # file: line 09.33.56 # I didnt want to add a new lang string 09.34.04 # pondlife: See what bluebrother was saying at 23:00 last night 09.34.06 # just 'Delete?' ? 09.34.16 # the filename is meaningless, the functionality is useful 09.34.25 # ok, ill remove the second line 09.34.34 # JdGordon: I use bookmarks, but if you would like testing I can't until tonight (and it is 09:30 now) 09.34.55 # its OK, not really important, and topik beat you to it :) 09.35.06 # "fixing bugs" entirely blind is called living on the edge! 09.35.12 # hehe, cool :) 09.36.48 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r24022): Fix FS#10289 - screens showing a list need to check the show_icons setting before setting the callback. the List will now always draw icons if a ... 09.38.29 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r24023): get rid of the filename in the delete bookmark confirmation as its not really helpful 09.41.21 Join Grahack [0] (n=Grahack@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 09.41.31 # ... case in point.... amiconn you're the only one with a ipod 1G/2G yeah? had a look at FS#10089? 09.42.10 Join Beta-guy [0] (n=Beta-guy@S010600179a5016a4.cg.shawcable.net) 09.42.49 # AlexP: No worries, just thought it might not have been noticed. 09.45.33 # * Llorean actually really enjoyed being able to quickly delete many bookmarks. 09.47.18 # perhaps it should be an option to prompt 09.47.36 # not another option :( 09.47.43 # As long as double-tapping the delete button results in a delete, it should be okay 09.47.54 # Then you can still clear several by repeatedly pressing the same button, it just takes twice as many buttons 09.48.01 # But if I have to rock between two buttons now, I think that's pretty bad. 09.48.11 # depends on the target 09.48.16 # So... bad. 09.48.29 # Why was this needed? 09.48.57 # do you have some massive aversion to change or something? 09.49.18 # I think I explained rather clearly why I liked the old way. 09.49.45 # so? it wasnt consistant with every other delete option in the UI 09.50.03 # "consistent" and, so? 09.50.15 # It's also the only single-button delete anywhere in the UI, rather than requiring a context menu, isn't it? 09.50.41 # anyone got a comment on #10831? I'm pretty sure the manual is at fault here. 09.50.41 # all the more reason why it SHOULD have the confirmation 09.50.58 # Ah yes. "it was originally set up to be quick, so let's intentionally slow it down" 09.52.04 # anyone understand 10551? I dont understand which playlist options he's talking about 09.52.09 # I've occasionally wished for no confirmatiion prompt when deleting files, I thought the ultimata solution would be multi-select there though... 09.52.35 # Llorean: it's the same button on my Fuze 09.52.41 # so fairly quick 09.52.46 # pondlife: It would be. 09.52.49 # no, wrong. different button, not quick 09.53.02 # first 'home' to delete, then 'select' to confirm 09.53.32 # pondlife: It'd be good for bookmarks too, but I don't like that we're taking away the ability to quickly delete bookmarks now, without a solution for it. 09.54.11 # I think consistency is a good thing. Either we prompt for confirmation on all delete actions, or we don't. 09.54.53 # i like this particular prompt. have accidentally deleted bookmarks in my audiobooks with no clue where i last was 09.55.02 # GodEater: I agree 09.55.06 # GodEater: Within the bookmark manager a lot of things are different anyway. 09.55.15 # Llorean: and I don't think that's a good thing 09.55.28 # I don't see what's wrong with it. Different screens have different controls. 09.55.44 # you don't see what's wrong with it because you're used to it 09.55.57 # * pondlife wishes bookrmarks were just files (shortcuts to a playlist/position/offset) 09.55.57 # it is inconsistent, and this is a bad thing 09.56.14 # GodEater: Inconsistent with *what*? 09.56.26 # the way we do deletes elsewhere 09.56.35 # Deletes of files, sure 09.56.38 # But it's not deleting files. 09.56.42 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 09.56.49 # so? 09.57.05 # The screen's not even the same sort of list. 09.57.29 # it's still deleting *something* 09.57.30 # * JdGordon wonders why now it suits Llorean to ignore his usual consistancy and simplicity and "dont let the user shoot himself in the foot" argument 09.57.59 # GodEater: So is starting a new playlist, yet we don't require a confrim on that at all times. 09.58.05 # It's deleting the in-ram one. It's an option there. 09.58.23 # so more inconsistency 09.58.26 # which we should try to remove 09.58.44 # we'd even save a setting 09.59.17 # JdGordon: Well, first off "consistency" requires something to be consistent *with*. There's not a good parallel case. Simplicity - single button deletes for something like this *is* simpler. And "don't let the user..." is something I argue both side of pretty regularly. 09.59.40 # GodEater: So starting playback will require a prompt every single time in the future in your desired world? 09.59.42 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 10.00.38 # People hated the "are you sure you want to do that?" style prompts of Vista, but you're basically proposing increasing the amount of "did you really mean thats" in things people aren't even generally reporting problems with. 10.01.46 # And, as I said, specifically engineering away the ability to use existing features how we did before. There's now no way to quickly clear out most of a list of bookmarks. 10.02.27 # you mean.... change is bad... 10.02.41 # JdGordon: Bad changes *are* bad, yes. 10.02.50 # i like this change. there are as many arguments to make for it as against it 10.02.53 # Change isn't automatically good. 10.02.55 # all changes are bad 10.03.14 # JdGordon: Changes that make the software harder to use can be quite bad, yes. 10.03.37 # which in your view (or my view of your view going by 4 years of arguing) is that all change is bad 10.03.50 # We've got several features that result in lists in which there are many, often outdated, bookmarks. 10.04.02 # The UI specifically had single-button removals which allowed them to be easily maintained 10.04.09 # Now you've doubled the work necessary, at a minimum. 10.04.20 # thats entirely a probem of the bookmark system 10.04.26 # JdGordon: Are you really saying at this point I've never been in favour of a change, ever? 10.04.27 # nothing to do with how it handles deletes 10.04.33 # Or that I'm just not allowed to have an opinion if it doesn't favour change? 10.04.52 Quit arohtar (Client Quit) 10.05.04 # I reckon I could count on one finger the amount of changes you havnt whinged about 10.05.26 # why do you two have to make things personal? *sigh* 10.05.43 # he started it! 10.05.44 # GodEater: He's the one making it personal. I'd rather go back to discussing the actual feature. 10.05.46 # :) 10.05.49 # wrt to prompting every time you start playback - No. I don't think that. 10.05.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.05.57 # JdGordon: Ah yes, the "and once again llorean with Change is bad!" was me starting it? 10.05.59 # mainly because it's easy to recreate the playlist 10.06.14 # it's NOT easy to recreate a bookmark if you've deleted the wrong one. 10.06.31 # GodEater: So maybe we make the recent bookmarks list easy to delete (because the bookmark files aren't changed or removed) but keep the prompt in the bookmark files? 10.06.42 # So you can't lose permanent bookmarks, but can quickly maintain the often cluttered list. 10.06.58 # that might be a good compromise 10.07.07 # Or maybe allow a way to cancel deletes such as not writing the bookmark file *after* changes without a confirmation 10.07.11 # but I'm the wrong person to ask on account of not using them very much 10.07.14 # So that instead of confirming on every delete, confirm on leaving the bookmark screen 10.07.25 # that's a good idea 10.07.48 # Well, I've been trying to think of ways to address both sides' problems, rather than just throwing blame around like some people like to accuse me of. 10.08.01 # it's past his bedtime 10.08.03 # he's cranky 10.08.03 # Which is why I started with "how is this better" to try to understand what problem it's trying to address specifically. 10.08.04 # great.. so go implement it 10.08.27 # JdGordon: How about I just revert your change until you implement one that doesn't reduce existing usability? 10.08.49 # Since that meets my needs, and you're welcome to implement a solution that doesn't screw over existing users later. 10.08.54 # your bandaid approach to reducing the number of open bugs isn't really working Jd. 10.09.18 # its not a bandaid aproach at all... 10.09.37 # the fact is the bug was fixed... the bookmark ui and code sucks.. feel free to work on it 10.09.47 # untill then, consistancy is king 10.10.55 # Consistency is just a buzzword so that you can pick any other thing and say "I'm making it like that" 10.11.36 # You planning on making the bookmark list show one-line bookmarks, and resume playback with a press of play too, or is that not part of your "consistency" at this time? 10.13.00 # * JdGordon honestly has no idea what Llorean is talking about 10.13.19 # JdGordon: The bookmark list is inconsistent with basically every other list in Rockbox as it stands. 10.13.29 # yes it is 10.13.30 # go fix it 10.13.34 # You've removed usability in the name of consistency, so are you interested in actually making it consistent? 10.13.56 # You're the one saying "consistency is king", so do you actually care about it, or is it just an excuse? 10.14.39 # there are those of us that actually contribute... and those that just talk... I'm the former... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18130.0 10.15.09 # should I search the tracker also? 10.15.37 # crikey! http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9407 10.16.00 # Does that make them single line, and change the keymap to be consistent with the rest of Rockbox then? 10.16.59 # Or is this a case of "oh look, here's a patch that doesn't do what you said in answer to your question, plus vague statements about how you haven't contributed anything ever" 10.18.25 # considering its a total rewrite of the entire bookmark system, i'd say there's a fairly good chance that I just might be using the standard list API's and such 10.18.33 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 10.18.41 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 10.18.58 # JdGordon: It's a yes/no question. Why not just explicitly say your answer? 10.19.17 # The standard list API doesn't mean the keymap is the same. 10.19.25 # becayuse its past 1am and i really dont care enough to look at the diff 10.19.34 # actually.. it does 10.19.54 # The plugin lists don't allow you to resume playback from them. 10.20.47 # fucking hell... this would be easier without me... 10.20.51 # * JdGordon -> zzzz 10.21.01 # So it's pretty clear that exceptions are at least possible. I suppose that would increase consistency - pressing play in plugins causing the plugin to exit and return to the WPS. 10.21.10 # Or at least in plugin lists. 10.22.30 # pressing play from within plugins? 10.24.23 # pixelma: Within their normal menu list, pressing play could exit the plugin and go to the WPS so that it mimics normal list behaviour in Rockbox. 10.26.10 Join Jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@p5DDC7756.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.26.30 # ah, you mean in their menus 10.26.37 # Yeah, sorry. 10.26.39 # Wasn't quite clear. 10.33.09 Quit PaulJam_ (Nick collision from services.) 10.33.17 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3236.gwdg.de) 10.42.30 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.03.18 Join Omlet^study [0] (i=omlet05@81.148-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 11.04.15 Nick Omlet^study is now known as Omlet^study^away (i=omlet05@81.148-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 11.04.16 Nick Omlet^study^away is now known as Omlet^study (i=omlet05@81.148-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 11.09.40 # is anyone keen on commiting the pause between tracks patch? 11.12.27 Quit Tomis () 11.12.52 Quit Rondom (Operation timed out) 11.15.40 Quit Jaykay (Remote closed the connection) 11.18.18 Quit funman ("free(random());") 11.31.32 Quit Grahack ("Tu m'as vu ?") 11.42.09 Quit PaulJam__ (Nick collision from services.) 11.42.15 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3201.gwdg.de) 11.44.41 Join lance [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-69-111-101-96.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 11.44.56 Nick lance is now known as Guest99294 (n=chatzill@adsl-69-111-101-96.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 11.45.20 # Database Export Modifications is only done manually, right? 11.48.40 Join Bagder [0] (n=dast@giant.haxx.se) 11.49.35 Quit PaulJam_ (Nick collision from services.) 11.49.43 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3184.gwdg.de) 11.50.36 Quit Guest99294 (Client Quit) 11.51.11 Join ShapeShifter499 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-69-111-101-96.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 11.59.43 Join fml [0] (n=5dd2d8da@giant.haxx.se) 12.00.35 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133115245.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.00.48 # GodEater: if the "pause after each track" and "party mode" settings are mutually exclusive I'd prefer to have them as possible values of _one_ setting 12.05.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.06.10 Join watto [0] (n=watto@193.203.81.165) 12.09.58 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 12.10.52 # * gevaerts disagrees. Party mode is mutually exclusive with dozens of settings... 12.14.58 # I've just realised it's not ready for commit anyway - it won't compile on HWCODEC 12.15.21 # that's different :) 12.15.27 # yeah =/ 12.16.02 # * GodEater will have to look at it later. Documentation to write :( 12.16.41 Join xavieran [0] (n=xavieran@ppp118-209-112-86.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 12.17.13 # I don't see how they can be combined, the settings are too disparate 12.17.43 # I think we just put in the manual under party mode "Enabling party mode will override the following settings: x y z" 12.18.14 # And under the settings in question "This setting will not take effect when party mode is enabled" 12.18.18 # Or something similar 12.18.36 # GodEater: And you can commit it when ready :) 12.21.03 # AlexP: I don't know that they're that disparate. They're both sort of simply the "playback mode" - one is interruption-less the other has guaranteed interruptions. 12.21.36 # If you can come up with a nice way of describing the functions of both in a setting length name, then I'm all ears 12.22.30 # "Skip length" is also mutually exclusive with party mode. You can still set it... 12.23.39 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 12.23.44 # Playback Mode - "Normal", "Party", and "Managed" or something. "Party mode" isn't particularly descriptive anyway, but if they're consolidated they can all simply be described in one place (including what other settings they don't work with) in the manual. 12.24.07 # Someone described it as a "DJ mode" though I'm not sure I'd agree with that name. 12.24.12 # Perhaps "SFX Mode" 12.28.33 # Party mode -> Jukebox mode? 12.28.44 # Perhaps. 12.29.00 # Certainly not DJ mode 12.29.17 # "DJ Mode" is that suggested name for "pause between tracks" 12.29.20 # not party mode 12.29.38 # I don't think a DJ wants pausing.. 12.29.40 # Yeah, sorry, was unclear on that. I don't know that I agree with it, but the person was actually requesting "pause between tracks" by calling it a DJ mode. 12.29.56 # pondlife: you don't? A Radio DJ would pause after each song 12.29.58 # I guess if you're using 2 DAPs... 12.29.58 # Is "database_changelog.txt" documented somewhere? 12.30.06 # His logic was that he was to be hosting an event where breaks between songs was wanted and he wanted to be able to queue songs and just press a button for the next one. 12.30.11 # "Playback mode A", "Playback mode B", and "Playback mode C" 12.30.26 # Jukebox mode is no better name for party mode either in my opinion 12.30.29 # I don't think Party mode and pause between tracks should be combined 12.30.31 # neither are terribly descriptive 12.30.35 # Maybe just something like "Normal", "Continuous" (Party now), and "Singles" (Pause) 12.30.48 # Or "Single" perhaps. 12.31.10 # "Normal", "Uninterruptable", "Single Track" 12.31.17 # Something like that, yes. 12.32.06 # Party mode should not prevent pause at track end (normally, you wouldn't enable both but I can't see why not). I assume that Party mode allows paused playback to be resumed, of course! 12.32.21 # Party Mode doesn't allow playback to be paused. 12.32.31 # Why should it allow Rockbox to pause if it doesn't allow the user to pause? 12.32.46 # Party mode should be a restructed UI thing, only. 12.32.54 # Not an anti-pause measure. 12.33.08 # * GodEater doesn't agree 12.33.09 # Isn't it explicitly an anti-playback-interruption feature? 12.33.14 # yes 12.33.19 # No, it's a jukebox mode 12.33.28 # not it's not 12.33.28 # It limits the UI to prevent playback interruption. It doesn't limit the UI with a happy side effect of preventing playback interruption 12.33.32 # pondlife: party mode disables everything that might interrupt the music 12.33.32 # which is why it's not called that 12.33.43 # Ah, I misunderstood then 12.34.15 # and since it does that, it makes no sense to let rockbox pause the music when the user is then unable to restart the music 12.34.20 # Still seems better that it should be a UI level restriction to me. 12.34.27 # Unable to restart? 12.34.36 # That would be silly 12.34.37 # you'd have to take the DAP out of party mode to do it 12.34.40 # Why? 12.34.49 # because pause/unpause is disabled 12.34.50 # Does party mode prevent resume - it shouldn't 12.34.56 # Only pause 12.35.02 # Doesn't it also prevent things like starting a new playlist (instead only letting you queue/insert)? 12.35.07 # yep 12.35.22 # Yes - which is why I thought it was a jukebox 12.35.30 # but if it prevents you pausing, why on earth would it NEED to allow resuming? 12.35.36 # it makes no sense 12.36.13 # GodEater: It does allow resume from stop, doesn't it? 12.36.14 # Because you have configured it tro pause between trackss, but don't want interruptionduring tracks. Think a kids party maybe 12.36.16 # the whole point of party mode is the music doesn't stop 12.37.25 # * GodEater thinks we're trying to invent too many use cases 12.38.06 # No, I just don't see any need to make one setting override another whent they could be independent (both simpler and more flexible). 12.38.40 # Anywqy, I have to work, but that's my opinion reigistered 12.38.44 # but the whole point of party mode is it overrides stuff 12.39.06 # It should be a *UI* override 12.39.20 # The point is to stop people doing unwanted things 12.39.47 # it's been in the code how long now? Why hasn't someone else re-written it that way? 12.40.08 # Because it's a bit of a mess? I don't know... 12.40.17 # I thought the idea was more to prevent *accidental* unwanted things? 12.40.31 # You set "Party Mode" on and you know that the music won't stop unless you turn it off or you run out of queued tracks. 12.40.45 # my point is that we've gone from adding a new patch, to now talking about a massive re-write 12.41.04 # * gevaerts thinks that people should be welcome to extend settings, but talk of an idealised world should not stop working patches from getting committed 12.41.07 # No, just how the pause-at-track-end interracts 12.41.08 # if a massive re-write is what is wanted, then I haven't the time or inclination to do it 12.41.29 # No rewrite needed, just a clear understanding of what a setting does 12.41.56 # I don't see any good reason to make 2 independent features dependent, that's all. 12.42.33 # If I want uninterrupted playback, I wouldn't enable pause-at-track-end. 12.42.38 # I don't see them as independent 12.42.46 # pondlife: Should the manual then explain that "Party mode prevents playback from being stopped, except when you've set other settings that may stop, pause, or alter playback?" rather than just saying clearly that playback won't pause, stop, or be interrupted while it's enabled? 12.44.03 # Llorean: It should probably just say that party mode restricts operation to prevent people interrupting playback 12.44.11 # * Llorean thinks that party mode should override everything, rather than requiring that everything be set explicitly to allow party mode. 12.44.19 # The point of it was a single thing you could turn on to know it's going to keep playing. 12.44.42 # Does party mode change the select action into a queue? 12.44.53 # i.e. select a file, it gets queued 12.44.58 # I think it gets inserted. 12.45.21 # OK, but not interrupting the current track 12.45.41 # No. 12.45.45 # OK 12.46.18 # Similar to my use case, but I'm thinking of it as a jukebox 12.46.30 # Probably not the same, so ignore me 12.50.53 Quit nosa-j (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.51.02 Join nosa-j [0] (n=k@adsl-235-26-175.clt.bellsouth.net) 12.53.38 # New commit by 03teru (r24024): sudoku: fix FS#7772: Sudoku: "Solve" Crash. 12.55.41 Quit ChanServ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.55.41 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.55.51 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.55.51 NJoin ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 12.55.51 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by irc.freenode.net 12.56.57 Join notlistening [0] (n=tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 12.57.38 # hi is there an abvious reason why i am getting lotS OF WARNING DURING CMPLIATION EG warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness 12.57.48 # probably because configure didn't find your compiler when you ran it 12.57.57 # so it hasn't done its compiler option magic 12.58.17 # oh ok 12.59.17 # when compiling for HWCODEC, which files need to be included to get DEBUGF(), access to global_settings, and audio_pause() ? 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On the later iPods we use this to decide whether to send button_repeat events 13.34.54 # So on the mentioned ipods, the wheel always sends non-repeat events, meaning that the list wrap protection won't engage 13.35.31 # And I'm not the only one having such an ipod. 13.36.41 Quit xavieran (Remote closed the connection) 13.39.23 # okay, the patch compiles for HWCODEC now, but I've no such target to test it on. 13.39.27 # * GodEater goes to lunch 13.41.11 Quit parafin (Nick collision from services.) 13.41.20 Join parafin|away [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 13.41.46 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 13.47.43 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-220-194.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 13.54.11 Join Zaba [0] (n=zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba) 14.03.47 Quit PaulJam_ (Nick collision from services.) 14.03.52 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=Paule@134.76.3.61) 14.05.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.19.29 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@212.201.31.24) 14.26.07 Join fml [0] (n=5dd2d8da@giant.haxx.se) 14.27.09 # The key descriptions in the manual use the "do something" form in some places and "does something" form in other places. Do we want to unify this? 14.29.06 # amiconn: maybe comment on the mentioned task then (FS#10089) and perhaps close it? 14.30.38 # fml: I'd be all for unifying (there are also other things I've seen where you can tell that different people worked on the manual which could be unified some day too) 14.33.04 # pixelma: would you mind trying the latest iteration of the pause between tracks patch on your ondio please? 14.33.45 # New commit by 03teru (r24025): update rockpaint and blackjack manual. 14.36.31 # GodEater: maybe in the evening, I'm currently at work (actually ;) ) 14.36.33 Quit PaulJam__ (Nick collision from services.) 14.36.38 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paule@134.76.3.142) 14.36.46 # pixelma: that's fine ;) 14.37.24 # pixelma: what would you prefer? "Do" or "does"? 14.37.48 Join cetheph [0] (n=5958efe8@83.168.254.42) 14.38.15 # hi 14.38.23 # I have a problem with a nano 2G 14.38.29 # can someone help me? 14.38.52 # rockbox seems to have an issue with accessing files on the ipod 14.40.12 # when i try to navigate through the directories, these directories refuse to open 14.40.54 # cetheph: this is most probably a problem with your file system. Check it using some appropriate tool. 14.41.41 # hm, on nano 2g, I'd guess an FTL issue... 14.41.49 # me too 14.42.09 # cetheph: this won't help you much, but this sort of issue is one of the main reasons it's still considered unstable 14.42.40 # Indeed 14.43.52 # but it's weird, because it has worked once, and rockbox reach sometimes to open the directories, or read files 14.44.05 # (*reaches) 14.45.47 # pixelma: if we unify this we should also put it into the manual guideline for the future. 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Charging _works_ when you power-on by USB, while START SCREEN is set to RESUME PLAYBACK. :) 16.29.26 # notlistening: mine is a PP - that means it's not AMS - right? 16.29.55 # Willy: That's correct 16.30.20 # * n1s also wonders why some people always adds things to the end of that *alphabetically* sorted file 16.30.24 # Panic - Dir entry 2 in sector 4 is not free 8E 3B 8E 3B and revision 16.30.37 # and the revision was this mornings 16.30.53 # notlistening: that looks like a FAT problem 16.31.29 # Revision: 24023 16.31.52 # right let me do a quick FS scan 16.38.06 Quit dfkt (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit FOAD (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit topik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit preglow (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit phanboy4 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit krazykit` (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit tha (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.38.06 Quit domonoky 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Unfortunately I've hit that missing mime-types which breaks diffing my local changes 18.23.13 # at least, if we do it we should do it consequently. I.e. gigabeatf -> gigabeatfx as in the platform file and so on 18.23.32 # yes, it should be everywhere or not at all 18.23.42 # Not half and half with the result that everything is wrong 18.24.31 # unfortunately this means my tree is now full of conflicts. Hopefully I can get this fixed soon enough before I have to leave tonight. 18.26.06 Quit matsl__ ("Leaving") 18.26.27 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@dhcp126.contactor.se) 18.27.18 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8E81B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.27.21 Quit petur ("*plop*") 18.30.53 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.37.08 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.39.25 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 18.40.52 Join fml [0] (n=c06d7cde@giant.haxx.se) 18.41.45 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 18.41.47 # AlexP: hello. Didn't want to use the does form? 18.42.00 # fml: Shutdown isn't a verb 18.42.16 # fml: "Shutdowns" as a verb doesn't exist 18.42.21 # AlexP.waht about "shuts down"? 18.42.33 # could do 18.42.46 # I don't like it much, but I suppose for consistency 18.42.48 # AlexP: yes, I did the changes in a semi automatic mode :-) 18.43.19 # AlexP: i.e. only my fingers worked, not the brain :-) 18.43.29 # hehe :) 18.44.13 # Shuts down is OK if you prefer it 18.44.28 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 18.44.38 # * bluebrother goes batch building all manuals for a first test 18.44.42 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.45.07 # I don't really mind :) 18.46.35 # AlexP: ...which the question: what is shut down? Rockbox or the player? 18.46.52 # *insert "poses" 18.47.15 # or both :) 18.47.56 # hmm, how can I instruct svn to display renames? I.e. something like "added foo, copied from bar"? 18.48.14 # But seriously: I'd prefer "shuts down the \dap" But I'm not sure whether this would be correct for all platforms. E.g. ipods? 18.48.42 # ipods can't shut down? 18.48.56 # fml: it will turn off all players, except for the early ipods, but I don't think that's a reason to change the logic 18.49.11 # I think just shuts down Rockbox is fone 18.49.14 # er, fine 18.49.15 # Zaba: early ipods can only suspend 18.49.16 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@g227075014.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.49.19 # I see 18.50.13 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.98.191) 18.50.26 # I think the first and second gen 18.50.50 # AlexP: could you please change that to "does"? That was the point of the patch. Plugins and other places in the manual still pending. 18.50.59 # does? 18.51.07 # bluebrother: Regarding tomers's commit - do I understand correctly that the manuals still build OK, but in cases where there are target (not resolution) specific screenshots, the generic screenshot will now be used? 18.51.18 # linuxstb: yes. 18.51.45 # plus, the commit unfortunately is incomplete -- for example, gigabeatf is not renamed to gigabeatfx, which would be in line with the rest of the commit 18.51.56 # the most target specific images are for the clip 18.52.09 # I see quite a few ondio images as well... 18.52.24 # AlexP: to the does form .-) I can't commit at the moment. 18.52.28 # pixelma: if you have ideas, about better remote handling for the themepage, please write them down. They will only be forgotten and ignored if you never tell them to me :-) 18.52.28 # ah right 18.52.53 # it seems the manuals haven't build at all tonight 18.53.50 # why does the timestamp on the server say 14th but the index file 15th? 18.54.17 # I guess timezone differences on the different download mirrors? 18.55.05 # The download server I've connected to says (for example) "2009-Dec-15 03:12:45" 18.55.46 # hmm, good point. 18.57.20 # New commit by 03alex (r24033): Change "Shutdown" to "Shuts down" in the name of consistency. 18.57.50 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.57.50 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.00.55 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 19.01.56 # what happens if i load a theme with a rwps/rsbs set on a target without any remote ? is it just ignored ? 19.02.44 # and what if the theme has a rwps/rsbs for a different remote resolution (but main-lcd resolution is the same) ? 19.03.42 # linuxstb: different question: what do you think about merging all those bin2c copies and adding real depencency generation to the various patcher Makefiles and putting a common part in rbutil/tools? 19.04.41 # * linuxstb wonders why FS#10858 wasn't discussed more... 19.05.34 Quit liar (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.05.34 Quit stooo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.05.49 # bluebrother: I would rather keep the different tools independent, so standalone source tarballs can be released (something we haven't really done in the past, but I think we should - for ipodpatcher/sansapatcher/mkamsboot etc) 19.06.00 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@g227075014.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.06.32 Join maraz^ [0] (i=maraz@kapsi.fi) 19.06.56 # linuxstb: up to the point where we have more than five copies of the same helper tools? 19.07.10 # linuxstb: ask tomers 19.07.40 # well, two... 19.07.58 # gevaerts: Exactly ;) 19.08.19 Quit phanboy4 ("Leaving") 19.08.25 # But I'm not even sure if they're the same - IIRC funman made some changes to the mkamsboot bin2c 19.09.24 # domonoky: I believe the remote part will be ignored on targets without remote, my guess about other remote resolutions - rwps will be loaded and if it works it'll be displayed, otherwise it probably falls back to the inbuilt (R)WPS. I imagine most Iriver RWPSs will work on the Iaudio remotes, vice-versa is probably not that likely 19.09.41 # yes, that one is different, but not too fundamental different. The sansapatcher and ipodpatcher copies are almost identical, except that the ipodpatcher bin2c skips the .ipod header 19.10.30 # besides, we already use bin2c from the tools folder for beastpatcher. 19.10.45 # bluebrother: But is that really worth worrying about? What problem is caused by having three slightly different versions of a trivial utility which needs no maintainance? 19.10.58 # domonoky: and I already gave a hint (more to myself) about the theme site idea yesterday morning here (and put the small reminder into that post), the thread started to annoy me though and I wanted to put an end to the current discussion first) 19.11.09 # if that is moved to rbutil/ we could very well release patchers -- we just need to include the utils folder for the tarballs. 19.12.04 # oh, that's simple: I'm currently looking into the Makefiles. My goal is to have a libipodpatcher and libsansapatcher, as with the other tools we link against rbutil 19.13.07 # AlexP: Are you happy with the choice of the "does" form? "Shut down" seems better to me than "Shuts down", but I won't lose sleep over it... 19.13.13 # pixelma: oki, so my shorttime plan is to change the themepage, to only show themes where the mainlcd fits and passes checkwps, and if they have the same remotelcd resolution then the theme, the remote files also have to pass checkwps. (otherwise remote skin file are then not checked) 19.13.18 # linuxstb: I agree 19.13.33 # I much prefer shutdown to shuts down 19.13.45 # "shutdown"? or "shut down" ? 19.13.53 # hence my slightly snarky commit message 19.13.55 # * gevaerts votes for the reverse 19.14.02 # down shut? 19.14.08 # linuxstb: dont mind 19.14.15 # linuxstb: no, "shut up" :) 19.14.18 # tuhs nwod? 19.14.23 # * gevaerts hides 19.15.32 # bluebrother: Those two libs don't need bin2c/ipod2c though. 19.18.46 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 19.19.30 # linuxstb: sure. But as I said, I'm looking at the Makefiles ;-) 19.20.08 # * bluebrother still searches how to get svn display where a file was copied from with svn status / diff 19.20.08 Quit tomers (Remote closed the connection) 19.20.20 # domonoky: my idea was to have on rwps theme pages (where the themes are still called .rwps and addressed in the cfg files as such). This will at least make it easier for people who designed e.g. a Clip theme to make it available as Iriver RWPS as they don't have to package one for an H300 and another for an H100 with something they don't care about as main screen WPS - and possibly leaves room for some automation. I'd suggest the sorting on these 19.20.20 # sub pages to be after font size (don't set it though in the cfg) 19.21.03 # bluebrother: You could always just create a new Makefile for use by rbutil if sharing the standalone one causes problems. They could possibly share some common stuff though. But I don't really feel that strongly - if you think you can significantly clean things up, then as you said we can always work out a way to create a source tarball... 19.21.55 # linuxstb: ok. I'll post a patch, hopefully in a couple of days. Too much RL these days ... 19.22.07 # bluebrother: What about doing "svn log" on the new file? 19.22.13 # domonoky: or make a list "works with main screen themes: blah, blub..." 19.22.22 # pixelma: rwps themes sounds good. but is probably a little bit of work :-) 19.22.54 # I already have SVGs and can easily make small PNGs out of them ;) 19.23.49 # linuxstb: I get a "file not found" from svn. 19.25.30 # I'm a bit reluctant committing this complete rename without looking at some kind of diff first :/ 19.27.12 # domonoky: and it's probably less work than implementing repackaging etc. 19.27.33 # which might be undesired too 19.28.05 # pixelma: sure, i dont really want todo any repackaging on the server. 19.28.36 Quit Zarggg () 19.31.00 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 19.31.00 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.31.18 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.31.24 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.31.26 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.31.45 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.32.17 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r24034): Rename target-specific images, update \specimg macro for targets it hasn't been done with r24014, and rename the front images for those targets. ... 19.32.44 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24035): rework checkwps handling und display. Only check against targets with the same mainlcd, and only check remote files if the target has the same ... 19.34.19 # bluebrother: "svn info file.ext" shows where it was copied from..... I see you committed anyway ;) 19.34.34 # AlexP: I hope I haven't missed any files. My tests worked fine at least, but unfortunately I have to leave in a while 19.35.07 # domonoky: your question 30min ago... themes with a rwps/rsbs without a lcd remote are perfectly safe, the setting is ignored 19.35.21 # JdGordon: good :-) 19.35.27 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.35.47 # ah, pixelma answered already.. I didnt see the reply :) 19.36.29 Quit FOAD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.36.29 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.37.25 # pixelma: unicatcherv32 is now fixed :-) 19.37.54 # linuxstb: ah :) Why on earth can't svn status show that info? 19.38.24 # bluebrother: What do you think about creating an ipodmini2g manual? It seems odd to have the 2g and 1g both link to a manual called "ipodmini1g" (it was OK when the manual was called ipodmini) 19.39.38 # JdGordon: same as in the forums ;\ 19.40.58 # linuxstb: would make sense, but we also have that issue for h100 vs. h120 19.42.38 # pixelma: no, in the forums I was reiterating :) your and bluebrother's nicks are botht he same colour for some reason and the posts sort of got lost tpgether :p 19.43.22 # you were partially wrong though :P 19.43.35 # *gnah* 19.43.49 # something broke with my last commit but I have to leave in a few minutes :/ 19.45.05 # wow, who did that genericimg for the clip? 19.45.58 # no wonder the images for the clip didn't broke 19.46.57 # FlynDice, ping 19.47.07 Quit notlistening ("Leaving") 19.47.18 Join notlistening [0] (n=tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 19.48.17 # FlynDice, sprry just got back online ywas there any thing i can provide to help on the Panic issue? 19.49.37 # pixelma: did you get a chance to check that patch for "pause between tracks" on hwcodec yet? 19.50.00 # no, I'm not at "home" yet 19.50.06 # ah ok, sorry! 19.50.28 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r24036): \genericimg should be the generic image, i.e. the resolution. 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Is I still missed something please ping me, I'll check later 19.51.38 # I'll have a shufti, good work 19.57.04 # notlistening: What did you do to try and fix it on your player, fsck or format or anything else and are you still getting panics? 20.00.07 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 20.01.49 Join stooo1 [0] (n=sto@g227075014.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.01.50 Quit stooo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.02.50 Quit PaulJam__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.04.17 Join CosR1 [0] (n=4fa63a59@giant.haxx.se) 20.04.38 # fsck i tried and then rewrote the whole rockbox dir and still panics 20.04.43 # not done a format yet 20.04.48 Quit CosR1 (Client Quit) 20.05.06 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.06.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.07.49 Quit Jaykay (Success) 20.08.46 # notlistening: If you look in your .rockbox folder do you have files with names like "." 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It might be possible to base the decision on speed 20.16.53 # JdGordon|: re FS#10551: I suspect that this is either a feature request or an out of sync voice file, but let's wait for a response first 20.17.14 # yeah could be 20.17.48 # * amiconn somehow needs to restore his motivation :\\ 20.17.58 # notlistening: those were just examples, for some reason when playlist_control gets saved it's having problems. I think it's just when using the data base but I'm not sure right now 20.18.59 Join petur [0] (n=peter@d54C6F9B2.access.telenet.be) 20.19.35 # Ok well my player is set to use voice files aswell and nothing plays back audio wise anymore so maybe i need to format the device again 20.21.56 # GodEater: unless its really important... svn shouldnt have DEBUGF() calls... 20.22.06 # i.e this playback mode doesnt need it 20.23.22 # I took them out 20.23.56 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.23.59 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.24.30 # B4gder: shouldn't the mailing list propose English (UK) instead of English (US) as the preferred language for mails? ;) 20.25.56 # GodEater: ok cool :) didnt look at the patch (yet), just the irc logs 20.26.19 # * JdGordon| votes for English (AU)! 20.28.06 # How do we handle bugs that have been fixed but are not in a release yet? Normally we close them, but how about e.g. FS#5269? It's said to be fixed, but since h300 bootloaders are a bit tricky it's not actually fixed for any real users... 20.30.11 # gevaerts: I think in that case, it should stay open - as you say, it's not actually fixed if a user follows the official installation instructions and installs the last released bootloader. 20.30.45 # you could set it to 100% complete but not close it? 20.31.02 # * gevaerts tries that 20.32.11 # done, but it's not really terribly useful... 20.32.23 # well, no :) 20.32.45 # a status for this would be nice 20.33.55 # how about ficing it with the comment "fixed, but bla" ? 20.34.02 # *fixing 20.34.22 # marking it 100% complete is probaly a bad idea... didnt the svn iriver bootloader brick daps? 20.34.25 # i mean *closing :) 20.34.53 # Jaykay: the main reason to leave this open is to avoid getting duplicate reports on this. Closing it will not help with that 20.35.15 # JdGordon|: well, this particular bug does not need any more work (except closing the bug at some point) 20.36.02 # gevaerts: it would be reporting a bug with an outdated version of the bootloader, so it's invalid 20.36.21 # Jaykay: that misses the point... 20.36.29 # ok, sorry 20.37.18 # (a) it's the released bootloader, and using another one is dangerous so we can't even consider asking that, and (b) whether you close a bug report as a duplicate or as invalid makes no difference, it's still useless noise 20.37.56 Quit stooo1 ("Leaving.") 20.40.47 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.43.32 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 20.45.32 # liar: Hi. Have you been working on the NAND/FTL driver for the Nano2G? 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It all worked. 23.02.09 # linuxstb: Ipod 5th generation video 30G black 23.02.18 Part EdStokes 23.02.57 # baptiste_: What do you mean when you say you can't read the .log file? 23.03.23 Quit Tomis () 23.03.31 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.04.04 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.04.10 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.98.191) 23.05.07 # linuxstb: it means that i guess the .lof file means something, it is readable in a text file, but i can't understand anything about what problem it is and maybe somebody could have a look on this file and tell what to do 23.05.20 # .log file sorry 23.05.23 # baptiste_: Can you upload it to here? http://www.pastebin.ca/upload.php 23.07.01 # linuxstb: http://pastebin.ca/1717491 23.08.08 Quit PaulJam__ (Nick collision from services.) 23.08.09 # linuxstb: the problem is "No Ipod detected Permission for disc access denied!" 23.08.14 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3123.gwdg.de) 23.08.38 # Are you running Rockbox Utility as root? 23.10.45 Quit Jaykay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.10.53 # No, i don't think so. I don't even how could I running Rockbox utilisy as root. When i running ubuntu, i don't even need to log on user's profile + password. How can I run under root? 23.12.04 # baptiste_: You need to run rbutil as root 23.12.10 # From the terminal, type "sudo ./rbutil" 23.12.11 # baptiste_: use sudo 23.12.57 # could we ship a launcher that uses either gksudo or ksudo or something with rbutil to simplify this? 23.13.04 Quit DataGhost (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.13.04 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.13.04 Quit SIGSEGV (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.13.04 Quit crwll (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.13.04 Quit erikw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.13.04 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.13.04 Quit dmb (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.14.16 # Hillshum: You don't always want to run rbutil as root - just for the *patcher bootloader installs. 23.14.27 Join fml [0] (n=chatzill@p5DD2D8DA.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.14.50 # linuxstb: Or better yet, add support for something like policykit for when the need arises 23.14.56 # I see that the minimal contribution is a great opportunity as developers as you. I fix my problem concerning root / user access and I coming back to you. Thank you for your support 23.15.09 # linuxstb: Hello! Don't you like the does form in general or just for the shut down action? 23.15.56 # fml: In general - I would have preferred your commit to have done the opposite... But I don't feel that strongly about it. 23.16.18 # Actually, as I see now, other places use the do form, e.g. the actions for the file types. 23.17.11 # Hillshum: I'm sure patches would be welcome... ;) 23.17.17 # I asked about it but we didn't have a long discussion. Hence I just provided the patch. It would be good to have it the same in all places. 23.17.42 # linuxstb: The other problem is being distro neutral... 23.18.03 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.18.03 NJoin DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@145.120.18.97) 23.18.03 NJoin dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 23.18.03 NJoin BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 23.18.03 NJoin crwll [0] (n=crwlll@a91-156-100-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 23.18.03 NJoin erikw [0] (n=erik@c-67-182-132-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 23.18.03 NJoin SIGSEGV [0] (n=user@61.250.113.98) 23.18.09 Join DataGhost_ [0] (i=dataghos@97-18-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl) 23.18.17 Quit DataGhost_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.18.35 Quit SIGSEGV (SendQ exceeded) 23.18.50 # This is easily done. GodEater, would you mind it? You prefered the does form but I think you wouldn't object to the do form as well :-) 23.19.12 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.19.25 Join SIGSEGV [0] (n=user@61.250.113.98) 23.19.55 # * gevaerts suspects that we now have enough committers that sometimes one of them commits a patch not realising that the author is also a committer 23.25.40 # * JdGordon|| did that ones already :) 23.26.02 # or I did the other way around... thining he was a commiter but wasnt 23.26.11 # actually.. probably both 23.26.29 # I think it's not bad in general to not to commit one's own patches. 23.27.14 # oh, it's definitely not a big problem. 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YOU CAN'T IMAGINE HOW WONDERFUL IT IS TO SEE ROCKBOX ON MY IPOD TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 23.39.02 # baptiste_: Now for fixing the caps lock key? :P 23.39.16 # caps lock is cruise control for cool 23.40.52 # :) no, it just an explosion of joy, sorring for "psamming" :d 23.43.48 Quit baptiste_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060308]") 23.45.24 Quit PaulJam_ (Nick collision from services.) 23.45.31 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=Paule@134.76.3.86) 23.49.00 # full format and rockbox reload fingers crossed and don't PANIC 23.49.56 Join YoYoFreakCJ [0] (n=5b2ef368@giant.haxx.se) 23.50.19 # hi 23.50.36 # and i hate the Sansa firmware refesh database blah blah yawn 23.51.14 # there are not enough cases of the 5.5 video ipod not working with rockbox caused by wrong sector sizes 23.51.32 # * Hillshum 'fixed' the database refresh by somehome messing up the formatting so that the Sansa tells him to free 80MG or something 23.51.52 # side effect is the OF won't work besides USB 23.52.37 # Im getting the error "cant load rockbox.ipod: file not found", and it also says on the screen "partition 1: 0x0B 7130 MB" although I have a 30GB iPod 23.53.43 # my sansa now work but a full format to fix :( 23.54.12 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 23.55.20 # YoYoFreakCJ: the "7130 MB" is just a display issue, the size printing code doesn't use the right sector size. 23.55.38 # YoYoFreakCJ: has this ipod been reformatted, and if so, how? 23.56.20 # I recently quick formatted it to FAT32 in windows, restored the firmware using iTunes, and used rockbox utility to install rockbox 23.56.56 # hm, that should be fine... 23.57.06 # funny thing is that it worked 2 weeks ago. although I did a complete formatting back then 23.58.06 # by now I changed the display and had the hard drive on an iPod with a sort of messed up motherboard. it didn't get the battery right, but I dont think that this caused some damage to my hd 23.58.21 # YoYoFreakCJ: When you quick formatted it, did you format the entire disk, or partition 2 on the disk? 23.58.32 # hm, was this other ipod a non-5.5G?