--- Log for 31.12.109 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 29 days and 14 hours ago 00.03.18 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.26.59 Quit Bagder ("It is time to say moo") 00.27.08 Quit Zagor ("Leaving") 00.28.42 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.30.53 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Fwump") 00.31.56 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 00.31.59 Join Strife1989 [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-206-37.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.33.54 Part captain_kewl 00.36.04 Join michaelcarr [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-208-103.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.40.16 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-224-5.slkc.qwest.net) 00.40.18 Quit JdGordon2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.49.26 Quit Strife89 (Connection timed out) 00.50.29 Quit Llorean (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.52.54 Quit Strife1989 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.54.50 Quit bimbel ("Bye!") 00.55.51 Quit michaelcarr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.01.35 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.04.30 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@vpn10.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 01.05.17 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 01.07.54 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.13.08 Join nimak_ [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-233-85.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 01.13.26 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-146-197-121.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.15.38 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 01.16.11 Join hillshum_ [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-232-116.slkc.qwest.net) 01.17.53 Quit klapaucjusz ("leaving") 01.17.56 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.18.51 Quit nima (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.22.15 Join CaptainKewl [0] (n=jason@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.22.22 Quit Tomis () 01.31.57 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.45.44 Nick hillshum_ is now known as Hillshum (n=hillshum@75-165-232-116.slkc.qwest.net) 01.49.28 Quit seani (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.05 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 01.53.46 Join mt [0] (n=chatzill@41.233.150.83) 02.02.34 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.12.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.15.46 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 02.20.57 Quit seani (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.25.02 Join sven__ [0] (n=sven@p5492216F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.27.05 Quit sagemfreak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.28.27 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@69.216.116.162) 02.30.16 Quit sven__ (Remote closed the connection) 02.30.40 Join Llorphone [0] (n=pocketir@32.147.242.159) 02.36.07 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 02.41.08 Join nima [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-232-75.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 02.43.40 # Llorphone: the algorithm i'm trying would be of use on arm7/arm9 targets, actually. certain things, like shifted register operands, impose extra delays (potentially) on beast, and on beast i'm working on using the FPU for integer divisions. 02.45.00 # Is the beast likely to benefit much from optimizations like that? I though (at least for battery life) the problem was cpu scaling? 02.45.49 # someone else can fix that, though 02.45.55 # optimisations are optimisations 02.46.04 # cpu scaling is a big part of the problem on the beast, but any gain we can get when scaling is useful will be improved by having faster code. 02.46.32 # since the core can then run at lower average speeds 02.46.59 # True. Was more wondering if headway had been made elsewhere since I've been paying less attention. 02.47.53 # no, nobody has done that yet 02.49.00 # Ah well. 02.52.09 Quit nimak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.52.28 # there's also some very interesting stuff in the arm system developer's guide about using the fast multiplier on units that have one to do newton-raphson estimation of reciprocals. fixed-point reciprocals are useful when you expect to do many divisions by the same value. 02.57.09 # the division algorithm is likely to be quite helpful, but there are some minor issues... for sufficiently large numerators we need to fall back to a more classical division routine, and doing that very often will mean 1) a lot of divisions done with the same algorithm as now, but with the cost of testing and skipping the new algorithm 2) more cache pressure as code for both algorithms is hit often 02.57.16 # Llorphone: Unhelpful has a thing for optimizations for optimization sake, hence his name ;) 02.58.32 # saratoga: it's more a thing for getting things that look pretty stuck in my head until i've implemented them, whether they help or not. :/ 02.59.50 # How fast do things need to get befor I can play DVD images? 02.59.51 # =p 02.59.54 # yes i understand that 03.00.01 # hence my WMA optimizations over the years 03.00.47 # but i'm guessing that if we felt the need to have a macro for using a specialized unsigned division routine in codecs that replacing the libgcc division routine outright might actually be good optimization. 03.03.41 # VOB support in mpegplayer would actually be nice for the beast 03.04.00 # we'd just need to add AC3 and get the hardware scaler working 03.05.05 # which leads to the real question being whether it ought to be the current udiv routine, or whether this SWAR division algorithm with the current udiv as a fallback might be better. if i'm understanding the limits of this algorithm correctly it should work for unsigned numerators <1<<30... that, i would hope, covers quite a large number of our calls to udiv. 03.05.28 # Beast can also do VGA out theoretically, right? 03.05.52 # Llorphone: can it? i'd imagine only composite, actually. 03.07.01 Join arlaneenalra [0] (n=jules@adsl-75-23-32-255.dsl.lgvwtx.sbcglobal.net) 03.08.12 # unhelpful: vga resolution, not signal. Sorry 03.08.25 # Is anyone working on the Sansa Fuze v2? 03.11.34 Quit nima (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.12.07 Join nima [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-227-218.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 03.16.50 # Llorphone: yeah i've seen cables for it 03.17.05 # arlaneenalra: someone was over the summer, but he hasn't been around in a few months 03.17.16 # I think I have one. 03.17.40 # I'm not sure which device it came with though and may not be right 03.17.43 # perhaps for starters adding a __udivsi3 that just calls udiv, after logging the numerator size, would be useful? could be used to track how often codecs would hit the fast path in this division function... 03.17.54 # i've been thinking about GSOC students lately 03.18.08 # its a shame that we tend to get fewer good students then we do slots 03.18.25 # i wonder if other projects have ways to advertise themselves to prospective students 03.18.29 # We could start shopping around now. 03.18.41 # yeah not a bad idea 03.18.48 # Try to communicate with related projects. 03.19.18 # i suppose looking at ffmpeg wouldn't hurt, though i doubt the students they attract would be so interested in us 03.19.29 # FFMPEG contributors who don't know of us might be interested if they did, etc 03.20.12 # i suppose looking around at forums for programming, embedded systems or dsp might not be a bad idea, since those tend to have large numbers of students 03.20.47 # Are there any popular schools for studying such? 03.21.12 # Maybe email some professors who might refer students or what not? 03.22.09 # yeah i could do that 03.23.06 # We might want to discuss "the future" of Rockbox somewhere 03.23.38 # So that we can see about what other kinds of student contribution we'd like, 03.23.49 # GUI, video, gaming etc. 03.24.23 # There's only so much you can do with optiimization, porting, new codecs and the usual. 03.25.06 # i don't know i could come up with 10 GSOC projects just for codec stuff i no longer have time/energy for 03.25.33 # but video is a good point, we could stand to improve it 03.25.42 # A lot. 03.26.14 # and the fabled rockbox as an app project 03.26.18 # We outclass most mobile audio, but trail nearly everything for video. 03.26.39 # getting rockbox working on some smart phone with a big screen would make video development more interesting for people i think 03.26.43 # I personally would like to see a Rockbox-optimized sync tool 03.27.18 # i've been meaning to ask the foobar2000 ipod sync guy if he has any interest in supporting rockbox too 03.28.07 # Build database too, or just recognize it and its supported formats? 03.28.16 # build the database 03.28.41 # That would be nice. 03.28.56 # Is dircache building realistically possible from host too? 03.29.24 Join nimak_ [0] (n=nima@75.45.243.212) 03.29.28 # was that musicmusic 03.30.05 # yes musicmusic 03.30.26 # i spoke to him many years ago when hacking replaygain into the ipod and he was very helpful 03.30.52 # maybe writing a library API compatible with whatever open source itunesdb library everyone uses would be a good idea 03.31.23 # would be nice indeed 03.31.24 # Sounds like a great start. 03.32.32 # whatever happened with that wysywig WPS editor? wasn't there some project like that? 03.32.38 Quit GeekShadow ("The cake is a lie !") 03.34.03 # A wps generator might be nice. Start with a 640*480 wps (or portrait equivalent) and a ttf and export to all smaller screen sizes automatically. 03.34.59 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.35.59 # the theme editor never really interested me 03.36.15 # given the huge number of themes we have it seems like doing them by hand isn't a serious issue for people 03.37.09 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@95.239.183.190) 03.37.11 # how is rockbox on touch screen targets these days? 03.37.40 # I don't think it's changed much recently. 03.38.09 # Technically usable, but not ideal for stylus use yet. 03.38.22 Quit kugel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.38.39 # do we have icons of any sort yet? 03.39.08 # Nothing graphical yet, I think 03.39.19 # well thats an obvious area for improvement 03.39.23 # Yeah 03.39.41 # an alternate to the menu system for touch targets would be very nice 03.39.46 # Any alternative visualization of lists could be something to consider. 03.40.24 # It could look much nicer in some themes too; at least the "main" menu could be more graphical 03.40.33 # D2 themes look like they have buttons 03.40.38 # do those actually work as expected? 03.41.00 # I think so. 03.41.05 # thats very cool 03.41.50 # Maybe we should just skip Christmas releasea. 03.41.53 # s 03.42.25 # Llorphone: direct ttf->non-aa-font is on my to-do list - it should be pretty easy to add to the aa-font patch's convttf. 03.43.02 Quit nima (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.43.05 # i don't see why we don't just branch and release 03.43.09 # The 6-mont period of not doing releases gives a good period for touchy features that need wider testing in-svn 03.43.16 # current SVN builds seem quite useable to me 03.44.11 # an easy way to generate fonts of a given size from a ttf seems to be a requirement for your scaled wps generator... 03.44.30 # But for the future. There's often things that won't necessarily clean up in two months 03.45.08 # unhelpful: aye 03.45.15 # releases seem mostly about having a known build handy, and for giving casual users a reason to upgrade 03.45.29 # 3 months seems like a good interval for that 03.45.43 # hrm, it seems almost all codecs use *some* integer division, but only one is using the UDIV macro... 03.46.09 # Unhelpful: yes basically all codecs need it for somethings 03.46.13 # but very few do it in a performance critical way 03.46.23 # usually its just for doing things like calculating bitrates 03.46.43 # the only one that i know does it during actual decode is APE 03.46.44 # saratoga: so it's only of *great* importance for ape? then i'll just benchmark that after i've made sure i have a working division algorithm. :) 03.47.08 # no sane format depends on doing integer division 03.47.59 # its too slow and in general its not the type of operation thats all that useful for DSP 03.48.19 # hrm, i wonder why ape needs this UDIV at all, then? 03.48.30 # amiconn explained once 03.48.50 # i forget, i think it uses some weird adaptive filter 03.51.43 # i love that APE decoding is amazingly slow compared to TAK decoding, but overall compression efficiency is no better 03.51.55 # as a bonus, this division algorithm could turn out a remainder as well for about one cycle more than the cost of doing the division... 03.52.31 Quit Llorphone (Remote closed the connection) 03.52.31 # or, rather, any trial-division algorithm could, and this one still can :) 03.55.10 # :q 03.55.57 Quit shai (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.56.07 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 03.56.58 Join hillshum_ [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-233-194.slkc.qwest.net) 04.02.40 # well, that would be a space savings if remainder is used, since udiv could return the remainder in r1... 04.03.40 # is it possible to make the simulator simulate a NUM_CORES > 1 situation or is bulding and testing on a multiprocessor target the only way to do it? 04.04.22 Quit seani (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.06.43 # in fact this appears to be precisely what __aeabi_uidivmod is expected to do... 04.07.31 Join Spinetti_ [0] (n=darkham@host148-179-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.08.24 Part froggyman 04.08.47 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-142-15-28.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 04.09.26 Quit Spinetti_ (Client Quit) 04.11.48 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.12.25 Join webguest82 [0] (n=70c99e37@giant.haxx.se) 04.12.53 # hello. I would like to know how to build a voice on windows without setting up a build environment? 04.12.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.14.08 Quit darkham (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.15.18 # CaptainKewl: its not possible 04.15.43 # and it wouldn't be useful anyway, since you'd need to emulate the actual PP CPU to accurately simulate how threading works on it 04.16.07 # thanks 04.17.40 # webguest82: i think rbutil can do that? 04.17.41 Join dys` [0] (n=andreas@krlh-5f722b70.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.17.41 # How do I create a voice under windows without going to the trouble of setting up a build environment? 04.17.41 # wwops 04.17.46 # rbutil, Let me test 04.17.53 Quit CaptainKewl ("Konversation terminated!") 04.18.51 # well i guess the sim would be useful if you wanted to just see if your threading logic was correct in the abstract 04.18.53 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 04.21.06 # saratoga: it's very unfortunate imo that the tak author is behaving so ridiculously about open source. it seems that the things he sees as blockers to a source release would actually be resolved *more* quickly if there were a community effort. 04.21.40 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.21.47 # yes he seems intent on having his format sink (further) into irrelevance 04.22.20 # there is a larger world than foobar and winamp :/ 04.24.51 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.27.44 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 04.29.14 Quit shai (Connection timed out) 04.31.30 Quit dys (Connection timed out) 04.41.10 # it looks as though APE would hit the "slow" division fallback path on about 6% of integer divides... and it sure does do quite a few of them :/ 04.42.02 # also i think i can expand the range for the faster division by 1 bit, which would be a help 04.43.18 # it's not nearly done with the sample file and has accumulated nearly 2 calls to UDIV 04.46.42 # what if you made our APE decoder optionally not lossless? 04.47.01 # would slow division be such a problem if you just wanted 16 bits accuracy? 04.47.43 # s/2/2 million/, oops :) 04.47.47 Quit Lss (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.48.35 # saratoga: i don't know enough about the codec to say if that would provide acceptable accuracy in output. 04.48.55 # try it and see! 04.49.24 # when i optimize things i usually just start lopping bits off and see when the RMS error gets below 90dB or so 04.49.32 Quit DogBoy ("Leaving") 04.50.28 # also the fast path in the division routine i'm proposing should be about 30% faster without any sacrifice of result accuracy - it uses 2 arm instructions per iteration instead of 3. 04.52.19 # APE has got to be the most optimized rockbox codec 04.52.26 # which is funny since its also the most impossible to use 04.53.09 # i'd imagine much of the attention is from the hope that maybe it could be squeezed into realtime performance ;) 04.56.01 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f755bd6.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.56.11 # i started pursuing an improvide UDIV because i happened to find this algorithm, mostly. i have small improvements on libgcc's __clzsi2, and this would be a pretty large improvement over our existing UDIV, so my thought was actually to put the clz and division functions in a library linked before libgcc, and just have them speed up whatever uses them. i hadn't realized that only one codec was *using* UDIV. 04.57.23 # well you could put a bunch of NOPs into UDIV and see if anything else gets slower 04.57.33 # but i haven't seen any other codecs using it 04.57.36 Quit efyx (Remote closed the connection) 05.02.44 # other codecs don't use it, but apparently nearly all contain at least *some* division, as they nearly all pull in the libgcc function for it. replacing udiv with an improved libgcc divider would *also* mean that in the case where UDIV might have a constant divisor, gcc could emit *much* faster code - it does division by constants with multiplication by a reciprocal and some fixup. 05.07.15 Quit Barahir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.08.49 # if i'm right about extending the range to 31-bit dividends then signed division could be implemented by wrapping unsigned division and would *always* hit the fast path 05.17.50 Quit tomers (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.21.05 Nick hillshum_ is now known as Hillshum (n=hillshum@75-165-233-194.slkc.qwest.net) 05.34.38 # ah, obviously if i think about how 2s-complement *works* then the range can definitely be extended. and checking against that standard, APE hits the slow path a *very* tiny portion of the time. 05.34.54 # Any ideas how to unset the readonly attribute on linux on a vfat player? 05.36.13 # AstroBoi: either your system mounted the player readonly initially, in which case you'll have to consult with help docs / community for your distribution, or the filesystem is corrupted and linux has forced the mount readonly after detecting an error, in which case you need to get out fsck.vfat :) 05.36.18 # mount -o rw 05.37.10 # nah mounting is fine, just that the Music directory on my H10 is set readonly etc cause of the daft way iriver works.. i could boot up my windows machine to unset it but i cbf :P 05.37.22 # remove "-ro" from /etc/fstab? 05.37.41 # might have to add an rw 05.37.46 # AstroBoi: only the music directory? the mount is rw? 05.37.53 # Unhelpful, yeah 05.38.12 # rockbox finds the directory ok when set to all mode 05.38.30 # i don't think rockbox pays attention to read only attributes so it won't matter 05.38.31 # but it doesnt list the music directory cause its got the readonly attribute set 05.38.34 # why not just use chmod, then, or your gui file manager of choice, to fix the permissions? 05.38.46 # chmod on vfat? 05.39.08 # i would *assume* you can still set the writable attribute using chmod? 05.43.40 # Is this on a e200? The OF sets it to ro every chance it gets 05.44.02 # nah iriver H10 05.44.19 # i know i can clear it in windows, but i just wanna beat it in nix 05.45.28 Quit Strife89 ("See ya.") 05.45.35 # Hmmm I dont like how rhythmbox organises music into artist before album 05.46.03 # Damn, didnt see that option before 05.46.55 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.48.39 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@user-0c6s6gs.cable.mindspring.com) 05.49.46 # AstroBoi: you might look at this, not sure if it will help or not http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Filesystems/fatattr-44366.shtml 05.52.04 # yeh thats the only thing i've found so far, cheers ;) 05.52.14 # just thought you guys might have some experience with it 06.12.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.16.00 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.20.13 # hrm, in ARM_DIV_BODY, couldn't we just initialize curbit to 89 instead of having a nop before the unrolled division loop? 06.28.04 Join hillshum_ [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-234-20.slkc.qwest.net) 06.30.06 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.32.56 Quit mt (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.34.08 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 06.43.29 Join Spaceg [0] (i=rrox@r190-0-134-103.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 06.44.05 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 06.52.03 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 06.56.43 Part arlaneenalra 06.59.43 Quit Space (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.07.32 Join lifeless__ [0] (n=lifeless@188.17.90.24) 07.12.34 Quit lifeless_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.13.19 Quit tomers (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.30.59 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 07.43.36 Quit Sajber^ (Connection timed out) 07.45.20 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.45.21 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 07.48.43 Join shai [0] (n=Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 08.05.05 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 08.06.11 Join webguest78 [0] (n=3b608a76@giant.haxx.se) 08.07.16 # There seems to be a problem with time settings in my sansa e200v2 (withrockbox) 08.08.00 # the version number is r24122-091229 08.08.17 # whenever the player is pluged to the PC the time seems to freeze 08.08.38 # that is if its plugged in for 3 hours then the time is slow by 3 hours 08.11.02 # hello? 08.11.12 # where do I get the answers 08.11.19 # and how do I know if I get an answer? 08.12.04 # webguest78: it's pretty early for most people here. If you stick around someone might know the answer. 08.12.31 # ohh i c 08.12.36 # thank you :) 08.12.44 # no problem :) 08.12.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.13.22 # do you have the answer to that? 08.15.30 Part toffe82_ 08.18.56 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.22.43 Quit webguest78 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.32.50 Join webguest79 [0] (n=3b608a76@giant.haxx.se) 08.33.01 # my sansa used to have these time reset problems before I put rockbox, with the OF too 08.33.06 # my sansa used to have these time reset problems before I put rockbox, with the OF too 08.33.09 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest79 08.33.09 # my sansa used to have these time reset problems before I put rockbox, with the OF too 08.33.09 # my sansa used to have these time reset problems before I put rockbox, with the OF too 08.33.10 *** Alert Mode level 1 08.33.10 # my sansa used to have these time reset problems before I put rockbox, with the OF too 08.33.22 # sorry 08.33.33 # we heard you the first time 08.33.34 # I dont understand how things are done here 08.34.52 # the guidelines are in the topic : http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines 08.35.48 # its not that, where do I post my question? 08.36.05 # here, the forums or the mailing list 08.36.59 # and how do I get my answers? 08.37.11 # from here 08.39.35 # wait till someone who knows the answer shows up 08.39.48 # I'm pretty sure that's in the guidelines 08.40.12 # though the fact that your player did this even with the OF probably means it's a hardware fault and nothing we can do anything about 08.43.11 *** Alert Mode OFF 08.43.41 # ohh k 08.44.30 # why is it that each time i plug it to my pc, even it is just for charging it goes to the OF and does a database refresh? 08.46.59 Nick Spaceg is now known as Spaceghost (i=rrox@r190-0-134-103.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 08.47.15 # webguest79: it goes to the OF because rockbox doesn't have USB on the Fuze. it does a refresh because Windows accesses the contents and the OF feels the need to rebuilds its database 08.50.12 # so far so good, APE file is decoding. :D 08.52.55 # oh :).. that was might helpful thank you :) 08.54.55 Quit shai (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.56.06 Nick Barahir_ is now known as Barahir (n=jonathan@gssn-5f755bd6.pool.mediaWays.net) 08.57.22 Quit webguest79 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.08.14 Quit Spaceghost (Client Quit) 09.13.35 Join nima [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-231-94.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 09.17.01 Join Saint [0] (i=Saint@203.184.3.93) 09.21.20 # saratoga: perhaps it also gets attention because it's *very* close on 80MHz PP? i'm at 96.8% realtime for the APE normal sample on e200 now... 09.24.45 Quit nimak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.27.46 Join nimak_ [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-227-100.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 09.29.17 Part Saint 09.32.08 # New commit by 03unhelpful (r24129): Enable and initialize VFP on imx31. VFP state is not saved on thread change, and it is initialized for scalar operations, rounding toward zero, with ... 09.32.17 # New commit by 03unhelpful (r24130): Add 31/31-bit unsigned division in apps/codecs/lib/udiv_arm.S, with 2 cycles / iteration, falling back to previous 32-bit, 3 cycle / iteration code ... 09.37.37 Join maraz [0] (i=maraz@xob.kapsi.fi) 09.38.49 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 09.39.01 # i'd welcome any thought on how i might get one more bit out of that. the problem as i see it is that if the high bit of the dividend/remainder is set and subtraction fails, the next iteration will calculate (r << 1) - d + C, shifting the high bit of r away. 09.39.03 Join mt [0] (n=chatzill@41.233.150.83) 09.41.30 # while the new remainder will still be correct, and the result positive, the assumption that the result can be determined positive or negative based on the carry flag maybe be broken if the second-highest bit of the remainder was 0. 09.42.10 Quit webguest82 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.43.28 # Unhelpful: APE uses a range coder, that's why division is so important 09.43.34 Quit nima (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.44.32 # amiconn: i was a bit horrified when i logged divisions (to see how many needed 32-bit dividends) and found that it does about 4 million while decoding the sample file :/ 09.45.15 # 3 divisions per sample iirc 09.45.27 Join Grahack [0] (n=Grahack@stc92-1-82-227-106-100.fbx.proxad.net) 09.47.10 # is the divisor == 2^N case really common enough that it's worth testing for? and if so, would it be possible to catch that case when the divisor is calculated (i'm thinking specifically that there may be a case where (x< i'm assuming correctly, right, that if the high bit of rX is set that adcs rX, rY, rX, lsl #1 will set all flags based on the result with the high bit shifted out? to do it any other way would need a >32-bit adder 10.26.43 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 10.37.45 Join 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21.55.34 NJoin topik [0] (i=awesome@wtf.grmpf.org) 21.55.34 NJoin markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 21.55.34 NJoin SaThaRiel [0] (n=SaThaRie@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) 21.55.34 NJoin jon-kha [0] (i=jon-kha@kahvi.eu.org) 21.55.34 NJoin ps-auxw [0] (n=arneb@dyn37.ps-auxw.de) 21.55.34 NJoin parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 21.55.34 NJoin HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 21.55.34 NJoin jae [0] (n=jae@HSI-KBW-091-089-249-155.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 21.55.34 NJoin bzed [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 21.59.51 # kugel: um, can cpp macros do "repeat this 31 times and modify x this way each time"? i don't think they can... 22.01.34 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@e179160031.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.06.08 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.06.26 # Bagder, Zagor: I made a minor update to the homepage and put it into svn yesterday - could you update please? 22.06.58 Quit captainkewll ("Page closed") 22.10.16 # GodEater: updated 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"contributing to rockbox" link on the front page 22.21.33 # it will link you to the right instructions 22.21.35 # oh 22.21.35 # ok 22.21.39 # sowwi im a n00b 22.21.43 # XD 22.22.02 # do you actually know c? 22.22.08 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 22.22.15 # starting learning it 22.22.24 # i wana know what i can do with it... 22.22.48 # well, you can write nearly an entire replacement DAP firmware in it :D 22.23.29 # assembler: "executables" in the sense of relocatable code with shared libraries that you're probably thinking of are not supported. plugins are loaded at a fixed address (so only one at a time may be running), and access core functions via a table of function pointers (rather than the sort of syscall interface one might see on more "standard" systems) 22.24.35 Quit mt (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.26.07 Join markun_ [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 22.26.37 Quit markun (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 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(id logbot, username n=rockbox, hostname rockbox/bot/logbot)' 23.53.56 Mode "logbot :+e" by services. 23.54.32 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@m435736d0.tmodns.net) 23.54.49 Join ffwd [0] (n=4c5dacf8@giant.haxx.se) 23.55.24 # does rockbox support ffwd and rewind with sound? i like to rewind back to parts i like in mixes. thank you. 23.55.50 # ffwd: no it doesn't 23.56.06 # doh 23.56.22 # thats the only thing stopping me from using it. so sad. 23.57.06 # sad for who? 23.57.14 # for me 23.57.39 # you could bookmark the bits you liked... 23.57.51 # its more of a spur of hte moment thing 23.58.02 # like i want to relisten to a song again 23.58.10 # but maybe not a bunch of times..just once 23.58.18 # it's not like rewind with sound is an exact science anyway 23.58.29 # true 23.58.56 # but it works great with my standard firmware 23.58.58 # but sure, I think rockbox should feature it. sometime in an absent future... :-)