--- Log for 05.01.110 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 4 days ago 00.00.03 # we're trying to make people to even log into the admin area :) 00.00.03 # * B4gder crawls back into his hole 00.00.11 # domonoky: the text is fine imo 00.01.23 Join sagemfreak [0] (n=sven@p54920170.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.06.25 # kugel: ping 00.06.29 # pong 00.06.32 # hi 00.06.50 # ive read FS#10097 00.07.02 # (the clickweel scroll issue) 00.07.11 # yea 00.07.45 # ive submitted FS#10883 00.08.09 # is there any new progress? 00.10.11 # there was a patch posted to fs10097 after you opened it 00.10.22 # I believe both tasks are about hte same problem 00.10.36 Quit funman ("free(random());") 00.10.55 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@m655e36d0.tmodns.net) 00.11.14 # yes i belive it too 00.12.01 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.12.01 # but the problem is not covered complete at the moment - both patches are not resolving the problem full. 00.12.17 # -> quickscreen issue? (eating of clicks) 00.12.35 # have you tried the last patch at fs10097? 00.14.25 # i am compiling it right now 00.15.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.30 # kugel: why should the setting take precendence over the sbs? 00.19.44 # neither actually makes any sense 00.20.01 # I think I've explained that a dozen times in the ML discussion we had 00.20.12 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24185): Display a image on the theme frontpage, if admin attention is needed. 00.20.24 Quit killan (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.21.12 # the ui vp is only used for the lists, that dictates the colors of the list (either set, or color settings via "-"), sbs %Vi area comes after 00.21.39 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 00.22.05 # if they are both set, then they are both *always* used together 00.22.40 # you mean the intersection? 00.22.55 # well, yes 00.23.31 # the intersection is just to make the ui vp fit, it still defines the (max) dimensions 00.24.06 # yes, I know... 00.24.13 # dimensions and colour are seperate issues 00.24.14 # so it also defines the colors 00.24.37 # so we should take the bitwise OR of the colours then? 00.24.42 # why? it's on purpose that you don't set only the dimensions via up vp 00.24.45 # ui vp* 00.24.47 # sorry.. AND 00.25.26 # I know..... what I'm saying is... if you have colours set in the sbs and in the setting... it doesnt really make sense to chose either of them 00.25.37 # the ui vp overrides the %Vi area 00.26.11 # %Vi is used as a fallback, it's not something you're garuanteed to get 00.26.49 # neither overrides either 00.26.51 # it does make sense to chose the ui vp color 00.27.28 # if anything the sbs is more important than the setting because it limits the setting 00.27.40 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 00.27.54 # omg... 00.28.47 # the intersection is only to make the ui vp fit, because it will be ugly otherwise. the colors don't have this problem, we can just take the ui vp color 00.30.23 # the ui vp was always meant to override %Vi 00.30.33 # by all means 00.31.18 Part CaptainKewll 00.35.58 # I dont necessarily agree with that.. but OK 00.36.15 # I'm trying to get viewports to be recolourable without bein reloaded 00.36.34 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.36.39 # an event maybe? 00.36.39 # is tomers ever in IRC? 00.37.08 # yeah, but with some extra smarts in the viewport struct so we know if we actually need to 00.37.54 # did you see m version of tomers' lang align WPS token? 00.38.12 # seems not 00.39.00 # I've added a new align token which makes the next token do its thing based on the lang 00.39.22 # %aa atm, but I'm open to suggestions 00.40.05 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 00.40.40 Join kugel_ [0] (n=kugel@e178127064.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.41.10 # I'm nore in favor of a condition and his %aL and %aR idea 00.41.13 # more* 00.41.24 # conditional 00.41.48 # imo thats too verbose 00.41.57 # also, its for more than just skins 00.42.22 # well, otherwise you need RTL handling for every kind of tag 00.42.40 # not all of them 00.42.54 # but if you have a conditional you effectivly double the size of the skin 00.43.06 # which means most people wont bother doing it 00.43.37 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.40 # that's why I would take %aL and %aR, so you don't need the conditional for every stupid line of text 00.44.05 # but for arranging icons/aa, conditional viewports are better suited imo 00.44.42 # doesnt setting the RTL flag on the viewport make all lcd functions using it follow the rtl? 00.45.17 # yes, but the skin engine can clear this flag after viewport_parse_viewport() 00.45.41 # the align tags override it anyway since they do alignment manually IIUC 00.45.55 # that doesnt sound right 00.46.14 # the alignment tags are per line, not vewport 00.46.14 # per subline even 00.46.24 # yep 00.47.05 # so the viewport rtl =flag should never be changed 00.48.21 # what is the viewport.c change? 00.48.40 # the flag means that text within the vp is right aligned, not that the whole viewport is aligned on the right edge 00.48.41 # to make it work 00.49.10 # it means both after the change 00.49.16 # that's wrong 00.49.19 # if its set before that func is called 00.49.24 # if its set after then its only text 00.49.31 # RTL isn'T simply "mirror everything" 00.50.00 # * JdGordon1 knows that 00.50.18 # although it does for 90% of it 00.50.57 # that change is wrong 00.51.10 # actually no, I would argue it does in fact mean miror everything 00.51.20 # viewports are often aligned to something on the backdrop, you're going to make it all wrong 00.51.33 # only the text is rtl, not the whole display 00.52.09 # I'd ague otherwise 00.52.24 # especially since the left/right is flipped and the entire list is also 00.52.54 # but not the viewport 00.53.04 # only the text alignement and direction, nothing else 00.53.08 # that's RTL 00.53.22 # that depends on the skin author 00.53.25 Quit b1uebrother (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.53.35 # that's RTL in the entire computer business 00.53.38 # so ok, maybe that sholdnt be there 00.54.10 # putting it there means that doesnt need to be duplicated anywhere 00.54.58 # you change it for every viewport there, not only for those being rtl aware 00.55.12 # the dimensions of viewports shouldn't be touched by rtl every 00.55.14 # ever* 00.55.23 # that wasnt going to work for the ui setting anyway though... grr 00.55.28 # * JdGordon1 really doesnt want to change the viewport definintion syntax 00.56.20 # hence the conditional. that's *way* more flexible anyway, it allows to react on rtl in an intelligent manner 00.56.55 # * kugel_ isn't sure why it's part of RTL to change the location of the AA 00.57.12 # is the location of the AA really a locale thing? 00.57.19 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.57.20 # isn't it a matter of taste, rather? 00.58.18 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.58.46 # there are themes which have the AA on the right no matter of rtl 00.59.14 Join tchan1 [0] (n=tchan@c-67-173-9-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.59.19 # not the dimensions.. just the X position... and its not really a matter of taste, its UI design 00.59.54 # I said location, not dimension 01.00.13 # (03:58:05 PM) kugel_: the dimensions of viewports shouldn't be touched by rtl every 01.00.17 # and yes, it's UI design (and hence the matter of taste of the author), and not depending on the locale 01.00.41 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 01.01.47 Quit tchan (Nick collision from services.) 01.01.50 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (n=tchan@c-67-173-9-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.02.39 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 01.06.18 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 01.07.19 Quit liar (No route to host) 01.08.41 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-f9fa70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 01.11.22 # kugel_: dont take this the wrong way... but do you speak any RTL langs? 01.11.38 # no, you? 01.12.09 # tomers first language is hebrew, hebrew is my second language... so yes 01.15.21 # so yes, the location of ui elements is a matter of taste, that taste is very much from the region 01.16.15 # using a single token means that any skin that doesnt work the way you like can be changed with 3 characters instead of totally fudging with it 01.16.30 # and locale stuff is something that is defined in a language, right? not a regional taste? 01.16.41 # both 01.17.44 # %aL, %aR and the conditional allow full flexibility and full rtl support, without bloating the skin code 01.17.54 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@69.216.116.162) 01.18.27 # all text that has %al and %ar already just replaces them (no extra chars), so only few conditional viewports are added 01.18.30 # you expect logos on the left of text because the language works that way 01.19.08 # I think my version of %aa using %aL and %aR would work best 01.19.09 # the AA too? 01.19.36 # there is no right answer there :) 01.20.03 # putting %aL right before a %V or %Cl token would solve everything 01.20.12 # that %aa largely limits the ability for a nice theme 01.20.20 # not at all 01.20.31 # it has 0 effect on LTR langs 01.20.45 # because the skin should look nice with ltr and rtl, but being bound to stupidly mirroring stuff 01.21.04 # if you use it at all, it means you will use it on all... 01.21.12 # you wouldnt only use it once 01.22.13 # any rtl-aware theme will just be perfectly symetric, because the plainly mirrored stuff needs to fit to the backdrop 01.22.24 # if you have 2 viewports the same size with a margin of X between them and the lcd edge, AA on the left, text on the right... if you use %aa on both then they will magically swap if a RTL lang is used 01.22.37 # it doesnt need to be symetric at all 01.23.20 # sure 01.23.48 # only the conditional actually keeps the freedom in design we have now 01.24.27 # you are totally missing the point I think 01.24.44 # on a side note, we do such things traditionally via conditionals, such an %aa tag seems inconsistent and out of place 01.25.31 # yes a conditional would work wel and should probably be added anyway.... but 99% of themes arnt done with RTL in mind, which means if anyone wants to take one of those themes they have a massive amount of work to fix them 01.25.44 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@host148-179-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.27.48 # add both then, although I think we both aren't fans of redundancy where it's not actually needed 01.28.46 # I doubt I'd make my themes RTL aware if it makes me being limited to react on plain mirroring nicely 01.29.30 # The *only* way a theme could be limited in any way is if a bad backdrop is used... and if thats the case then its a dead simple fix also 01.29.56 # bad because it's not symmetric? 01.30.24 # bad because it puts graphical elements where it expects the viewports to be 01.30.50 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 01.31.16 # that's 99% of the todays themes 01.31.22 # the other 1% don't have a backdrop 01.31.46 # doing it that way is overcoming limitations of rockbox 01.31.46 # even the cabbie theme background sort of has this problem with its position of the rockbox text 01.31.57 # fine 01.32.17 # but its alot easier mirroring a bmp than a horrible skni file 01.32.37 # horrible skin file? 01.32.37 # *anyone* can mirror the image without any extra software 01.33.03 # have you ever tried modifying someonme elses skin? they are horrible to read 01.33.30 # yep 01.33.35 # that won't change 01.33.51 # yes 01.33.55 # %aL and %aR doesn't make it any worse 01.34.16 # which is why its much easier to add a single %aa to the viewports that need to be switched than redo the whole viewport in a conditional 01.35.28 # redo'ing it potentially means reacting nicer on rtl that just mirroring it 01.36.01 # and you only redo those which are meant to be rtl aware, which (in my expectation) most aren't 01.36.05 # more often than not, no, it will just work 01.36.21 # if any extra work is needed they wont bother with a conditional at all will they? 01.36.38 # they'll just fix it as needed and forget about trying to make it work for ltr 01.36.40 # the conditional works 100% of the time 01.37.16 # * JdGordon1 thinks %ax might be better than %aa 01.37.20 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.37.25 # extra work means copy and paste in the cases %aa works 01.37.36 # that's zero actual extra work 01.38.15 Quit togetic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.38.22 # I just dislike putting limits on people that make good themes 01.38.25 # I'm geting on the plane soon... I'm going to fix tomers' %aL/R, and make my %aa work better, and add a is rtl conditional and commit 01.38.45 # without that viewport.c change I hope 01.38.51 # the barrier to entry to make themes RTL needs to be tiny, or there is no point bothering at all 01.39.03 # there are no limits 01.39.06 # show me a theme which wouldnt work 01.39.26 # tux 2.0 01.39.26 # especially when none of these changes does anything for LTR langs 01.39.30 # link? 01.40.30 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=271&target=fuze 01.41.21 # that theme is terrible anyway.. but how would that not work? 01.41.39 # unless the whole top is one viewport 01.41.42 # in which case thats a crap wps 01.41.43 # assuming the grey area is one viewport, the AA would cover tux 01.42.04 # so it needs more work than just %aa to make it work 01.42.11 # so mirror the bmp in mspaint 01.42.28 # that's what I mean 01.42.28 # I've never said that %aa is the silver bullet 01.42.44 # mirroring in mspaint doesn't help anyone 01.42.46 # domonoky: I've just seen the report box.... can it be shrunk, or moved? its a bit... big 01.42.56 # it should be dynamic on rtl, not statically 01.42.57 # sure it does... how doesnt it? 01.43.03 # it could be both 01.43.18 # you are still missing the point 01.43.22 # so you can do %aa%mspaint to move tux? 01.43.44 # most themes wont have any RTL support.. which means the only ones which will have are ones downloaded which the user wants to fix 01.43.57 # if they want it ltr then they would have to use a conditional 01.43.58 # the point is that %aa doesn't make it all magically simple to change 01.44.05 # or not a SHIT backdrop 01.44.06 # JdGordon1: sure i can change it. but i think it isnt so big. which browser do you use ? 01.44.34 # firefox, screen res is 1024x800 or something small (netbook) 01.45.16 # anyway, time to get ready to board.... kugel_, its been fun as always :) 01.45.22 # * JdGordon1 back in a few hours 01.45.24 # JdGordon| so it should be less high ? like 4 lines or so ? 01.45.54 # you cant do a javascript text box if the report button is clicked? 01.46.24 # ah, its not shown on the full listing so its not too bad 01.46.26 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24186): reduce size of input box from theme reporting. 01.46.26 # * JdGordon1 gone 01.48.20 # for the logs: yes its only shown on the themedetails page. and till now i deliberatly avoid this javascript things :-) 02.01.19 Quit Slasheri (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.02.32 Quit domonoky (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.05.53 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 02.06.39 Quit martian67 (Nick collision from services.) 02.06.40 Join lol2 [0] (n=arkfar@d198-166-17-170.abhsia.telus.net) 02.08.50 Quit shaggy-h (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.08.50 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.08.50 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.08.50 Quit darkham (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.08.50 Quit tchan (niven.freenode.net 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# missing header for unified diff at line 5 of patch 05.15.53 # can't find file to patch at input line 5 05.15.53 # Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? 05.15.53 DBUG Enqueued KICK S_a_i_n_t 05.15.53 # The text leading up to this was: 05.15.53 # -------------------------- 05.15.53 *** Alert Mode level 1 05.15.53 # |Index: apps/action.c 05.15.55 # |=================================================================== 05.15.57 # |--- apps/action.c (revision 23894) 05.15.59 # |+++ apps/action.c (working copy) 05.16.01 # -------------------------- 05.16.03 # File to patch: 05.16.15 # ? 05.16.58 Quit mc2739 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.20.24 Join howdeep [0] (n=sean@CPE0022b0d42173-CM0014049355e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 05.25.54 *** Alert Mode OFF 05.27.53 # S_a_i_n_t, use patch -p0? 05.28.59 # it applyed to r24186 cleanly enough for me, assuming you're using the latest patch 05.30.08 Join q0_0p [0] (n=23842@99.179.97.142) 05.30.32 # anyone here know how to fix ipod nano 1st gen when it loads it freezes with a picture of a folder? 05.32.57 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.34.02 # q0_0p: Looks like an Apple problem: "There are several icons that your iPod nano can display that indicate problems with the iPod or portions of its program. If you see either a folder or a sad iPod with an exclamation point, first fully charge your iPod nano. If you still see the icon, try resetting and restoring your device..." 05.34.12 # From: http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/r1004/48r04/48r04.asp 05.34.37 # thx evilnick 05.34.54 # evilnick, it is a folder with an exclamation point correct 05.35.00 # evilnick, thx for the help 05.35.09 # No problem :) 05.42.27 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.42.42 # evilnick, itunes is not able to read the ipod nano nor am i able to fdisk -l in linux to read it. Could it be that because the problem lies in the battery? 05.44.33 # q0_0p: I don't know for sure, but I'd guess that it's disk corruption of some type, so perhaps the best way of rescuing it would be to put it into disk mode (instructions are on the page I linked to earlier) then restore it. 05.44.52 # Obviously the usual caveats about making sure you have a backup of any important info etc. still apply 05.44.53 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.45.16 # evilnick, thx 05.45.21 # evilnick, will give a try 05.46.38 # evilnick, ah diskmode is a strange procedure 05.46.42 # evilnick, interesting 05.47.02 # evilnick, interesting how u have to hit the buttons a certain way 06.01.09 # q0_0p: in linux, anything interesting in dmesg? 06.01.35 # tmzt, i gave up trying linux but i will try it again now that i found out u can do disk mode 06.01.58 # tmzt, u think sometimes linux will read it and itunes will not? 06.02.28 # no, diskmode is the right way 06.02.29 # tmzt, i reset with menu + center then afterwards center + pause/play and it gets stuck at apple logo 06.02.49 # can't help you with iPod sorry 06.02.53 # tmzt, its cool 06.02.59 # tmzt, what do u use? 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09.54.04 # And maybe reassign buttons? 09.55.06 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4E11C.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.55.11 # I have a Sansa e200 which I think might be a bit easier to use in the c200-style configuration 10.05.48 # nima: not without changing the source code.. 10.08.29 # Ah, OK 10.08.33 # Might be a cool feature 10.08.44 # I can make the LCD upside-down 10.08.57 # But not rotated 90 degrees 10.11.36 # Ooh, upside-down is kinda nice 10.12.03 # It looks like the buttons are adjusted appropriately too 10.15.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.29.20 # nima: yes, rotation would be cool, but would need a lot of work. 10.29.39 # unless you want to always rotate it 10.31.19 # there is/was a patch for the gigabeat to do that. 10.33.40 # What do you mean by "always rotate it"? 10.34.11 # as in "not have the option to rotate it back again without recompiling" 10.34.50 # Are things that are screen-dimension-dependant hard-coded? 10.34.55 # yes 10.34.59 # Oh, OK 10.35.28 # and it might choose different bitmaps in various plugins etc depending on the resolution and rotation 10.35.38 # .. at compile time 10.36.36 # Still might be cool enough to be worth it. I know I'd really like it 10.36.47 # nima: can you program a little? 10.36.54 # might be a cool project to work on. 10.38.02 # A bit. 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Anyone want to comment on http://pastebin.com/mdf5ab6c before I commit? :) 17.00.30 Join rhodan_ [0] (n=quassel@81.62.44.209) 17.01.07 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! 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Usually I install selfbuilt but complete zips 17.57.46 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@ALyon-551-1-5-153.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.59.48 # JdGordon: could it be a filename problem? wps/rockbox_default.txt.wps 18.00.38 Quit seani (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.00.58 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 18.02.12 Join Grahack [0] (n=Grahack@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 18.04.18 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 18.05.57 # mc2739: could be, but that filename hasnt changed in 11000 revisions 18.07.11 # yeah, I just noticed that 18.10.58 Quit grndslm (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.12.42 Join howdeep [0] (n=sean@CPE0022b0d42173-CM0014049355e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.12.50 Join CaptainKewll [0] (i=2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/x-jgxhfwatyuflwdnw) 18.13.02 Quit maruk ("Leaving.") 18.15.51 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 18.16.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.21.30 Nick kaniini is now known as knine (n=kaniini6@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 18.21.33 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r24187): Fix wpsbuild.pl so that rockbox_default wps is built 18.22.32 Join evilnick [0] (i=0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 18.23.04 Quit howdeep (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.45 Quit seani (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.25.59 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 18.29.50 Quit petur ("*plop*") 18.34.30 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@173-128-13-120.pools.spcsdns.net) 18.37.02 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 18.44.43 Quit TheSphinX^ ("XChat@Linux") 18.57.15 # what could be the reason for wakeup_wait(&endpoints[endpoint].complete, TIMEOUT_BLOCK); to never return? (no interrupts are triggered anymore if that happens) 18.58.06 Quit jgarvey (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.58.08 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 19.10.26 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-2-101.mcn.bellsouth.net) 19.13.00 Quit krazykit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.13.00 Join krazykit` [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-240-214-96.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 19.13.54 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-071-070-229-231.nc.res.rr.com) 19.18.41 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-iwglnqzkqwnxjncw) 19.22.40 Quit JdGordon1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.23.11 # trying to translate 'AV decay time' -- can anyone tell me what AV is? 19.23.44 # it's been translated previously as average but I don't think that's correct 19.24.23 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 19.25.51 # it belongs to the "auto volume" settings 19.27.09 # ok, so it's nothing to do with AV cables? 19.28.10 # it is a function of the hardware decoder chip used in some (all except one) of the supported hwcodec targets 19.28.26 # I never used it though 19.39.15 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.40.08 Join mmmlinux [0] (n=4430ea0b@giant.haxx.se) 19.40.34 # hey, i had a quick question about rockbox. that someone in here can probly answer fairly quickly 19.43.58 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.44.14 # mmmlinux: best go ahead and ask it then 19.44.24 # yeah. 19.44.31 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.97.93) 19.45.05 # what would happen if i plugged an ipod with rockbox installed in to my car streo that normally lets me navigate through the ipod with the head unit 19.45.12 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.45.12 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 19.45.15 # try it and see? 19.45.15 # im assuming it wouldnt work 19.45.23 # it might, or it might not 19.45.24 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.45.25 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.45.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.45.43 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.45.51 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 19.45.51 # my understanding is that there is a serial protocol that makes that work. but ive never really looked in to it too much 19.46.04 # correct - the apple accesory protocol 19.46.08 # which we have bits of implemented 19.46.10 # but not all of 19.46.13 # i see 19.46.33 Join Michael-Micvan [0] (n=chatzill@c-69-138-231-32.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 19.46.42 # hmm, guess ill install it on my spair ipod mini and see what it does 19.47.03 # if it works well enough my third gen will get it too 19.47.21 Quit Michael-Micvan (Client Quit) 19.47.29 Join Michael-Micvan [0] (n=chatzill@c-69-138-231-32.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 19.48.34 # eh, any idea how i tell which gen ipod mini i have? i think its a seccond becuase the text on the wheel is colouredd 19.48.56 # I think it's if it has the capacity written on the back, it's a 2nd 19.48.59 # hey all does anybody know if rockbox will support the nano 5g 19.49.02 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.49.05 # Michael-Micvan: no it doesn't 19.49.27 # liar: wakeups are a threading thing, it cannot block interrupts 19.49.59 Quit mmmlinux ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.50.17 # Michael-Micvan: why the PM? 19.50.59 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.51.09 # sorry dont play around with irc to much 19.51.15 # liar: wakeup_wait(&endpoints[endpoint].complete, TIMEOUT_BLOCK) never returning means that wakeup_signal(&endpoints(endpoint).complete) is never called 19.52.17 # the answer is : No, to my knowledge, no-one is working on the nano 5g 19.52.17 Quit Michael-Micvan (Client Quit) 19.52.29 Quit Tomis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.52.29 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.97.93) 19.53.24 # hmmm... is rockbox.org down? I can ping it but firefox won't connect 19.53.40 # yeah, it's offline atm 19.53.48 # noo :( 19.54.09 # a little ad hoc maintenance 19.54.13 # just the web server 19.54.23 # F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5... :'( 19.57.38 Join bimbel [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 19.58.59 # bugger, I wanted to try out a patch on fs 19.59.05 # mc2739: ping 19.59.16 # FlynDice: ping 19.59.30 Quit bmbl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.59.48 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 20.03.33 Quit Tomis (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.04.43 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.97.93) 20.06.26 Quit jgarvey (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.07.03 # any eta when the site is back? 20.08.15 # kugel: no. we're investigating a possible security issue. 20.08.26 # alright 20.09.04 # Zagor: the one that makes the build system swap builds? ;) 20.09.07 # full body scanners to the rescue! 20.09.16 # gevaerts: no, not that :-) 20.14.40 # * kugel should've downloaded the patch before coming here to answer liar 20.14.50 Join Jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@93.220.79.118) 20.15.44 Quit rhodan_ (Remote closed the connection) 20.16.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.16.58 # kugel: that one? http://pastebin.org/71469 20.17.02 # :) 20.17.17 # no :( 20.17.54 # erm.. 20.18.13 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.18.26 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.1.166) 20.19.11 # kugel: so what do you mean :S? 20.19.49 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@87.180.225.28) 20.19.50 # another patch, relating to the samsas 20.20.23 # * liar is confused 20.20.28 # you said my name^^ 20.21.13 Nick krazykit` is now known as krazykit (n=kkit@adsl-76-240-214-96.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 20.22.08 # I noticed that list.h uses a char for struct member selection_size in struct simplelist_info 20.22.18 # liar: I answered your question before downloading the patch I want 20.22.20 # changing it into an int makes the code smaller (at least for arm) 20.22.49 # ups i've mistaken answer with ask :S 20.23.02 # :) 20.23.27 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-071-070-229-231.nc.res.rr.com) 20.23.55 # liar: did my answer at least help you? 20.24.03 Join Juozapas [0] (n=qzaz@78-63-0-166.static.zebra.lt) 20.24.11 # hi why rockbox.org is down ? 20.24.52 # Juozapas: unscheduled maintenance 20.25.07 # how long that will be ? 20.25.18 # kugel: a little bit. it seems the problem is not wakeup_wait. someone is masking all my interrupts :( 20.25.47 # maybe somewhere is site mirror ? 20.26.38 # i just upgraded my ipod mini to 16GB cf ;) really want to install rockbox soon as passible ;) 20.27.12 # Juozapas: all downloads are on http://download.rockbox.org/ which is still there 20.28.13 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 20.28.23 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-240-214-96.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 20.28.28 # yeah, but installer dont reach server 20.28.34 # bertrik: the dbop patch seems to work fine on the e200v2 too now, I'd say commit asap 20.28.53 Quit AndyIL () 20.29.21 # kugel, very nice to hear 20.29.51 # bertrik: that was probably nonesense "size optimization"... feel free to change it to an int 20.30.08 # ok 20.30.36 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@81.62.44.209) 20.31.03 # kugel: pong just a few mins be quick ;-) 20.31.25 # FlynDice: pastebinning the very latest dbop patch should be quick 20.31.31 # if you have it, please :) 20.31.40 # sure 20.32.26 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 20.33.36 # kugel: http://pastie.org/767852 20.34.18 # * kugel thinks DBOP_PRECHARGE shouldn't be in config-.h 20.35.42 Join baptiste [0] (n=chatzill@vir91-12-78-231-137-156.fbx.proxad.net) 20.39.45 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.43.26 Quit dfkt (Excess Flood) 20.43.27 # kugel, I agree, I'd rather see a define simply in dbop-as3525.c or as an argument to dbop_input 20.43.32 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.48.26 # bertrik: otherwise the patch seems to work just awesome on my fuze 20.49.22 # kugel: that's all due to the careful previous owner! 20.50.32 # my heavily used fuze had less scratches on the screen :p 20.50.44 # but yea, of course <3 20.51.27 # the scratches are becaus of an even earlier owner :) 20.57.23 # :S usb_drv_send seems to fail for packages with length==2 on my nano 2g 20.57.32 Quit rhodan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.01.57 # bertrik: very impressive that you understood the time polarity things there 21.02.34 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@84.133.162.109) 21.02.49 # I wonder whether the OF is doing that. I only saw what have in SVN in the disassembly, but maybe it does the proper precharging in a different function 21.03.23 # we might actually be a bit smarter than the OF now :P 21.03.45 # IIRC, the OF did the silly red or blue pixel thing 21.05.40 Join Serious_F [0] (n=Serious_@201.255.122.144) 21.06.02 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 21.06.35 # Hello, people, how are you doing? Is there anybody whom I can ask specifically about Rockbox installed in a iPod? 21.06.42 Part watto 21.06.53 # mc2739: the wps bug was fixed? 21.06.59 # bertrik: well, we still send the red pixel, just so that it doesnt touch the lcd 21.07.07 # Serious_F: just ask your question 21.07.42 # I need to know if Rockbox would work on a iPod Nano 5 generation 21.08.14 # no 21.08.37 # Just the first generation ones? 21.08.46 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 21.08.47 # In which apples does it work in fifth generation players? 21.09.05 # have you read the frontpage? 21.09.42 # I just don't get it, is it the general iPod from º1 to 5 generation? I mean, that g stands for generation, right? 21.10.27 # that's correct 21.10.47 # it says also nano 1g → only first generation nano 21.10.56 # So, general apple iPods from 1 to 5 generation, and nano only, the first generation only? 21.10.58 # kugel: pong 21.11.25 # mc2739: I was looking for the latest dbop patch since the site was down, but FlynDice already pasted it for me 21.11.25 # OH, I didn't see that specification either 21.11.27 # Serious_F: rockbox runs on 2gen nanos too, but the port is unstable 21.12.09 # ok 21.13.16 # JdGordon|: yes, but there are a couple of 0 byte files that get created. I'm still looking into the fix for that. 21.13.33 # what was the issue? 21.13.56 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 21.14.01 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.15.21 # mc2739: I touched that line last IIRC, I think that $req_t was required for something (maybe so that X.clip.wps is build only for the clip, but I don't know for sure anymore) 21.16.20 # the .txt was probably interpreted as a target or screen resolution; did you try renaming that one instead? 21.16.59 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.19.34 # kugel: looking at the clip zip file, it looks like it is getting the proper wps files built 21.22.26 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 21.23.05 # mc2739: let me verify 21.23.33 # Thank you for your help, people, bye for now! 21.23.36 Quit Serious_F () 21.27.31 # mc2739: it seems to be the correct one, but I'm getting .rsbs files now 21.30.25 # kugel: that is the part I was still working on. rockbox_none.sbs and rockbox_none.rsbs are getting created after the change I made earlier 21.35.05 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.35.11 Join b1uebrother [0] (n=dom@f053152124.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.40.43 # while (GRSTCTL & 1); freezes. while (GRSTCTL & 1) yield(); not. why? 21.41.43 # ah it still freezes 21.42.11 Quit wrah2 ("Konversation terminated!") 21.42.20 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.49.39 Quit tomers ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091215231400]") 21.54.38 Join j-b1v [0] (n=root@nofear-snat.bivio.net) 21.54.56 Nick j-b1v is now known as jebel (n=root@nofear-snat.bivio.net) 21.55.37 Join EpicCynd [0] (i=47b13d6b@gateway/web/freenode/x-eqezpbsmjwjrrixe) 21.56.35 # Anyone know why the libcurl site now points to rockbox site? http://curl.haxx.se/ 21.56.50 # Is there a rockbox for the v2 Sansa200s? 21.56.56 # *yet 21.57.07 # jebel: it's a mistake. it'll be fixed soon. 21.58.32 # Zagor: Thanks 21.59.24 Join Strife1989 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-14-32.mcn.bellsouth.net) 21.59.43 Quit Strife89 (Nick collision from services.) 21.59.54 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (n=michael@adsl-154-14-32.mcn.bellsouth.net) 21.59.57 Part jebel 22.00.15 # wait, I'm confused. I have a Sansa 260v2. If I install this model of rockbox, it will work, but only use the original firmware for loading up songs? If so that's awesome 22.00.33 # EpicCynd: yes, that is correct 22.00.57 # so the microSD cards larger than 2GB are supported, I can play games, etc? 22.01.59 # EpicCynd: yes, and yes 22.02.35 # and, making sure I'm reading right, this is the model that I could recover the original firmware to if I wished, right? 22.03.00 Part Juozapas 22.03.40 # yes, but the procedure is very difficult. It was needed only in the early developement stages. 22.04.50 # The original firmware can be reloaded by the sansa upgrade tool, or just by putting the firmware in the root directory 22.06.33 # okay, you guys rock! I'm gonna try installing it right now, is there anything I can do to help out? 22.08.53 # Not unless you can program. The USB driver still needs to built built and it also needs optimisations to increase battery life. 22.09.18 # Oh, is the battery life bad on it right now? 22.10.37 # not bad, but less than the OF 22.10.58 # how much less? Can I still get at least 5 hours of play on it? 22.11.21 # I think the e200v2 battery life is about 12 hours 22.12.36 # well that's fine then. I can't program so no help there, but I might be able to help you with webspace if you guys ever need it 22.14.15 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 22.14.47 Quit Grahack ("Tu m'as vu ?") 22.14.58 Quit togetic (Client Quit) 22.15.22 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24188): Use plain int (instead of char) for field selection_size in struct simplelist_info 22.16.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.16.18 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 22.16.35 Quit togetic (Remote closed the connection) 22.16.55 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.17.25 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 22.19.44 # and the USB mode needs to be in MSC, correct? 22.20.41 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@213.3.76.245) 22.24.32 Quit Jaykay ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]") 22.25.25 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.37.40 # Sweet! I love rockbox already :D 22.39.36 Quit Unhelpful (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.42.03 # The only thing is my album art isn't showing, anything special I need to do with that to get it to work? 22.42.06 Join Unhelpful [0] (n=quassel@pool-71-173-205-32.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 22.45.41 Join smwod [0] (i=541cf61e@gateway/web/freenode/x-qhokpckrpxrlsgnf) 22.46.18 # EpicCynd: Rockbox doesn't do Embedded album art 22.46.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 22.46.55 Part smwod 22.51.26 # hm, I have rewritten the clipping in lcd_update_rect() on the fuze; I believe it is correct but it's a bit slower than SVN 22.52.45 # I also noticed there's last.fm support, how do I get it to scrobble to last.fm ? 22.53.21 Quit CIA-77 () 22.53.26 # upload .scrobbler.log to last.fm with one of the numerous apps or webclients that support it 22.53.29 # there are links on the wiki somewhere 22.53.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LastFMLog 22.55.32 # okay thanks, sorry for all my noobish questions :S 22.58.06 # grml, I can't say whether the old one is wrong and faster due to that, or if both are right or mine is just slower 22.58.50 # I didn't add an if (), so mine shouldn't be slower in theory 22.58.54 # did anyone see my post earlier about adding exit-time cleanup support to pluginlib_exit? 22.59.08 # frotz leaks filehandles if exit() is called, so i thought i should add a mechanism 22.59.19 # it's no code at all if you aren'tusing it, but i'm not sure about the look of it 22.59.29 Join CIA-9 [0] (n=CIA@208.69.182.149) 22.59.32 # http://pastebin.com/mdf5ab6c 23.00.45 Quit kugel (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.01.16 Quit Unhelpful (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.08 Join Unhelpful [0] (n=quassel@pool-71-173-205-32.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 23.06.10 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.06.25 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.07.29 # Is there any reason to load the database to RAM on a flash device? 23.09.51 # not really... maybe slightly faster 23.12.17 # * EpicCynd thinks the sound quality is better than it was with Sandisk's firmware :) 23.12.25 # Thanks, JdGordon| 23.17.34 # New commit by 03torne (r24189): pluginlib: Support calling a function at exit time to clean up open files ... 23.18.03 # Torne: have you seen my related-but-different patch at FS#? 23.18.11 # i've seen it, yah 23.18.17 # it looks ok 23.18.32 # rather than depend on that, i have done this so taht frotz can clean up its handles properly despite using exit() 23.18.34 # * GodEater giggles at FS# 23.19.23 # it was only leaking if it encountered an os_fatal() but since that only means the plugin did something wrong it shoulnd't mess up the rest of the system :) 23.19.41 # this is just a poor man's atexit() 23.20.10 # you still have to write the code to close the handles 23.20.23 # indeed 23.20.41 # you guys are probably going to get a small donation from me... I loves my new rockbox :D 23.21.15 Nick Guest65977 is now known as ThomasAH (n=thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 23.21.38 # frotz is basically done, now, then 23.21.54 # oh, no, i was going to make it an overlay for low mem targets 23.22.02 # i don't have a low mem target to test it on, though :) 23.22.15 # I'm still not sure if this close-all-filehandles patch should be a plugin API feature (i.e. plugins can assume that it's there and not bother closing everything), or rather a debug feature, which possibly splashes and panics 23.22.23 # yeah, i'm not sure 23.22.30 # when i suggested it i meant the former 23.22.36 # but i don't know that that *is* such a good idea after all 23.22.51 # did you decide if there was anything in core that would open files on behalf of a plugin? 23.23.04 # that is strange 23.23.34 # "width = xmax - x + 1;" --> "width = xmax - x;" costs 13fps 23.23.49 # I don't think there is, but I haven't really checked 23.24.48 # how's that possible 23.25.21 # gevaerts: i think a debug feature is probably more sensible 23.25.53 # originally i was annoyed because i realised that exit() bypasses all the logic that would normally clean up by longjmping straight to the end of plugin_start 23.26.06 # (the following memory transfers are proportional to width, so making it 1 smaller should *increase* fps) 23.26.10 # but the patch i just committed is probably a much better way to deal with that than closing the filehandles automatically 23.26.16 # kugel: fun. no idea. you should check the asm i guess 23.26.33 # make exit() less dumb rather than making the plugin launcher smarter ;) 23.27.17 # so I guess it should panic, but only get enabled for debug builds 23.27.34 # sounds reasonable 23.28.31 # do i need a manual entry for frotz for it to be committed, btw? 23.28.40 Quit seani (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.28.42 # well i say be committed 23.28.44 Join seani [0] (n=seani@78.33.109.70) 23.31.09 # * kugel cannot explain it 23.31.17 # o well, maybe I can 23.31.49 # the following transfer is more complex if width is odd 23.33.04 # Torne: well... plugins shuold get manual entries, but I dont tihnk anyone will yell if it comes later 23.33.35 # JdGordon|: hm. i guess it's more secret code for "i hate TeX, might someone else write a manual entry if i chicken out" :) 23.33.44 # * Torne has a look at the source for the manual 23.35.00 # is there a way to refer to pluginlib actions in the manual? 23.37.30 # Torne: theoretically yes (check manual/platform/keymap-*) but I don't think actions have been added for plugins yet. 23.37.45 # maybe that's a good reason to start it? ;-) 23.37.56 # based on looking at the existing ones i'd guess no 23.38.17 # since the button table for dice.rock is rather large despite being just PLA_QUIT and PLA_START :) 23.39.08 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r24190): Set the layout direction of the dir tree when setting up the widget. ... 23.39.23 # yeah it doesn't ahve the plugin contexts, i guess because they are crazy and all clash 23.39.33 # it's a shame though because frotz only uses generic_context so is nice and sane ) 23.41.08 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 23.46.53 # way too many pluginlib action contexts to be useful in the manual currently 23.48.42 # after spotting what's wrong and fixing everything is *way* faster now 23.49.41 # pixelma: yah, probably. 23.51.48 # I'm on fixing that, don't worry :p 23.56.50 # how bad would it be to hide flags in the top 8 bits of the colour variables in the viewport structs? 23.56.52 Quit knine (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.57.46 # JdGordon|: the viewport struct has a flag field, use that 23.58.13 # I know