--- Log for 10.01.110 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 9 days ago 00.00.35 # bluebrother: So for committing a new lang file, I have svn added it and set keyword on it, but do I do anything to that line? i.e. just adjust the filename, or remove it, or what? :) 00.01.08 Quit gill0r (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.32 # you can leave the old data in that line. The keyword is $Id$. Everything after Id and before the second $ gets replaced 00.01.40 # cool 00.02.12 # thanks for that 00.02.52 # afaik the server only saves $Id$. When using git svn those lines only contain that string, so one can spot missing svn:keyword properties rather quick when opening a file ;-) 00.03.02 # ah, a nice trick :) 00.03.32 Quit shaika-dzari ("Konversation terminated!") 00.04.04 # well, one can of course also use find -exec or xargs to go through all files but ... ;-) 00.08.53 # New commit by 03alex (r24209): Update Esperanto and add Slovak languages: ... 00.11.13 # * AlexP forgot CREDITS 00.13.13 # New commit by 03alex (r24210): I forgot to add the authors of r24209 to CREDITS. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.41.10 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87.196.0.186) 00.42.05 # domonoky: I just saw now your Sansa e200 dock 3D printable, with Rockbox logo :-) :: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1555 00.42.18 # :-) 00.42.36 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 00.42.49 # domonoky: and when a box for Mini2440? 00.43.20 # someday :-) 00.43.28 # domonoky: I started the design but didn't finish it... :: http://lyre.sourceforge.net/?q=content/design-mini2440-enclosure 00.45.11 Quit Barahir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.48.21 Join mrspeedy [0] (n=spidy@dial-95-105-151-234-orange.orange.sk) 00.49.15 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 00.49.26 Join mrspeedy1 [0] (n=spidy@dial-95-105-151-234-orange.orange.sk) 00.49.28 # hi, is there any way for Rockbox HID to add mode of USB Prank device? 00.49.31 Quit FlynDice (Remote closed the connection) 00.50.35 Quit bluebrother ("Computer has gone to sleep") 00.50.49 Quit mrspeedy (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.51.13 Part mrspeedy1 00.51.53 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.52.32 # I suppose a plugin could do so, no ? Isn't there a way for plugins to send HID messages ? 00.53.06 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.59.39 # What does __PCTOOL__ stands for ? 01.00.39 Join Oxymis_ [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 01.03.44 Join alexbobp [0] (n=alex@66.112.249.238) 01.03.58 # Torne, just curious if there had been discussion (and perhaps a breakthrough) somewhere outside of the tracker I hadn't seen. Thanks for the clarification! 01.05.43 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.10.04 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 01.10.52 Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") 01.19.09 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.3/20091020122601]") 01.20.15 Quit liar (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.27.35 Join xavieran [0] (n=xavieran@ppp118-209-14-172.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 01.55.21 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.06.21 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.12.04 # pamaury: I was reading up on what I missed whilst sleeping, ans I too have found that the screen brightness (on all I've tested) for the simulators is indeed quite dim 02.14.09 Quit Oxymis (Remote closed the connection) 02.17.28 Quit Oxymis_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.18.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.18.31 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 02.24.53 Quit GeekShado_ ("The cake is a lie !") 02.34.43 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.36.05 Quit FOAD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.36.06 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 03.21.31 Join Barahir [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f7569b0.pool.mediaWays.net) 03.21.37 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-232-48.slkc.qwest.net) 03.25.36 Quit rhodan (Remote closed the connection) 03.44.34 Quit Strife89 ("Bed.") 03.53.00 # it would appear that our printf renders 1<<31 as "-(" with the %d conversion 03.53.50 # i noticed in my division test/benchmark plugin, and then tried just doing a printf with "%d" for the format string and 1<<31 for an argument, after a fresh boot (in case something in the plugin was going wrong 04.15.57 # just rebuilt without eabi, so it appears not to be caused by eabi 04.18.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.36.35 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 04.58.01 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.07.07 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.20 Join Space [0] (i=quassel@r190-64-7-72.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 05.12.53 Quit Barahir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.15.28 Quit Space ("güit") 05.16.39 Join NightHawk877 [0] (i=46809360@gateway/web/freenode/x-izardrjkcefswjrb) 05.17.00 Join Anorion|eee [0] (n=anorion@ga743.texashealth.com) 05.17.34 # I need help using the radio on my D2. I just Rockboxed it today and don't know how to use it 05.20.22 # I just want to know how to change stations 05.20.56 Join aarovona [0] (i=4584e2a1@gateway/web/freenode/x-urukqpnnmfqypluz) 05.24.58 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 05.28.31 Quit NightHawk877 ("Page closed") 05.31.59 Quit aarovona ("Page closed") 05.38.01 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.41.01 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.42.56 Join kramer3d [0] (n=kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 05.51.25 Join mc2739_ [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 05.52.51 Quit mc2739 (Nick collision from services.) 05.52.52 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 05.53.59 # We don't have a D2 manual do we? 05.55.04 # yes there is a d2 manual 06.00.14 Join kaniini [0] (n=kaniini6@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 06.03.43 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 06.04.12 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 06.09.31 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 06.11.37 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-87-35.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 06.16.41 Join `Assassin [0] (n=blank@71-8-56-51.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) 06.16.42 Join toffe82__ [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-87-35.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 06.18.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.21.35 Join Barahir [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f75525c.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.28.58 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.29.59 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 06.34.20 Quit toffe82_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.35.26 Part toffe82__ 07.12.40 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.13.20 Join Willwolfe [0] (n=Willwolf@net49-116.netkaster.ca) 07.14.18 # Does anybody know if there will be a reverse bootloader patch available for sans e200v2 like for v1? 07.15.28 # Willwolfe: probably not, making one would be fairly dangerous, since the boot decision is determined before the bootloader even runs 07.15.40 # whoever tested one would risk bricking their player 07.18.31 # So at present there is a dual boot with plans to remove it later when all is stable for release if I understand the forums. If I want to retain this I should not update the bootloader if this dual boot feature is removed.? 07.19.00 # dual boot won't be removed 07.19.58 Quit Horscht (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.20.37 # you need it in case rockbox can't boot for some reason 07.20.39 # Cool. I was just hoping that the default could be changed to sansa OF if this was preferred for music playback interface. 07.21.32 # depends how good you are at ARM assembly and how willing you are to lose a player or two in the process 07.22.05 # no official bootloader ever will put th eOF first 07.24.03 # That is why I was inquiring about a reverse bootloader patch like was available for the v1. I am just a Dad trying to improve mpeg playback on his daughters Sansa. I use RB on my Gigabeat and would never go back for obvious reasons. 07.25.55 # #ifdef USB_PIN /* TODO : remove this check when we'll have an USB driver */ 07.26.11 # at least someone thought ahead when the AMS patcher was written 07.32.07 # I think this is where I got the idea about the reverse bootloader "http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39463" but it was unfortunately for the v1. 07.39.01 # the iRiver H100 series 07.39.12 # have a 50-pin connection to hdd? 07.43.38 # www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement 07.43.57 # I miss my iRiver H340 07.44.03 # should have never sold it 07.44.34 Quit Willwolfe (" Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 07.46.22 # is hard to find one? 07.46.42 # I am thinking to buy one as recorder 07.46.58 # * S_a_i_n_t suggests ebay or similar 07.46.59 # a iRiver H110 07.47.04 # I am searching 07.47.28 # the h100 series is different from the h300 series 07.47.32 # but still a damn nice player 07.48.11 # Anorion|eee, but as recorder is better the h100 series? 07.50.17 # I found one h120 for U$S 60 + U$S 12 to USA, but I don't live in USA, may be that is a problem 07.53.02 # ah no 07.53.45 # what kind of recording are you wanting to do? 07.53.55 # but I need buy the charger separatily 07.54.01 # I didn't have very good luck with recording college lectures with it 07.54.14 # but for voice notes, or whatever 07.54.21 # or with an external mic 07.54.24 # it was awesome 07.54.30 # I am searching for recorder my class 07.54.38 # ah 07.54.54 # I currently use an old Creative MuVo TX FM 07.54.59 # it works well enough 07.55.23 # that is difficult because teachers stay too far, and there are many noises that interfere, but anyway, I coul heard the most with some generic mp3 07.55.39 # though I recently acquired a Sansa Clip, and that seems to have slightly better recording quality, muuuuch better battery life, and 8gb of space 07.55.41 # may be I can reduce the interfere with a audio edition then? 07.56.06 # can you put the player on the teacher's desk? 07.56.12 # that's what I usually do 07.56.25 # uhmm 07.56.40 # then I run the resulting file through audacity and normalize the volume, to compensate for the teacher walking around 07.57.14 # is difficult to my currentily class, but maybe on next year and in some assignatures yes 07.57.48 # uhmm 07.58.04 # sometimes the teacher use a microphone that have a radio connection 07.58.13 # to big speakers 07.58.22 # that always makes it better 07.58.40 # may be can I intefere that radio connection? or may be will be so difficult? 07.58.57 # no, the player shouldn't interfere with the radio 07.59.12 # but if you mean, you want to pick up the radio signal directly? 07.59.19 # probabily will be a short frecuency, no? for that is difficult? 07.59.23 # yeah 07.59.27 Quit CaptainKwel (Remote closed the connection) 07.59.32 # probably not, unless it's on a frequency that the player can pick up 07.59.48 # but I don't know what frecuency use, only can get if is a FM frecuency, true? 07.59.54 # and I know nothing about PA systems 08.00.00 # that sounds about rigt 08.00.03 # right* 08.00.09 # any FM tuner should be able to pick it up 08.00.22 # *should* 08.00.26 # yeah 08.00.41 # the one class I had that used a radio PA used 660 AM 08.00.43 # but without knowing what it's broadcast at, hard to say 08.00.47 # which was annoying 08.01.00 # more players need AM tuners, imo 08.01.22 # DAP's are usually marketed globally 08.01.28 # need to figure out which system they use, do not think it fm 08.01.30 # and AM isn't as common as FM 08.01.39 # I know 08.01.44 # exist a target that have a AM receptor? 08.01.59 # don't think so... 08.02.02 # not sure 08.02.08 # i think there are practical issues with fitting an AM radio inside a DAP 08.02.19 # is possible add one with a mod? 08.02.21 # also, interference issues, I think 08.02.49 # really, though, I think the real issue is demand 08.02.58 # no one but us nerds use AM anymore 08.03.03 # heh 08.03.08 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.03.15 # I also have a shortwave that I use quite often 08.03.17 # hey, I'm a nerd, and I don;t use Am lol 08.03.28 # not asking for that (of class), but good news and many other programs are in the AM 08.03.43 # yep 08.03.48 # radio dramas /o/ 08.03.51 # depends what country you're in I guess 08.04.17 # here the FM is mostly used for music, and music that I listen and I have in the player 08.04.38 # exactly 08.04.53 # and here, if you don't like rap or country, there is no station for you 08.04.59 # and I hate them both T__T 08.05.04 # xD 08.05.19 # XP 08.05.20 # are you from texas? 08.05.24 # yeah 08.05.24 # if you just want to discuss radios, try rockbox-community so that everyone else doesn't read about this in the logs 08.05.29 # okay 08.05.40 # sorry 08.06.07 # only I said that because I prefer a player that have AM to FM, for that reason 08.07.38 Join Space [0] (i=quassel@r190-64-7-72.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 08.09.52 Part Space ("Leaving") 08.18.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.19.43 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08.21.14 # Anorion|eee, I just asked a friend of that, and told me that they used outside the FM commercial band 08.21.31 # figures 08.22.11 # may be if a do a addon of a player, I can put a more fm receiver broader? 08.22.40 # first, I must find out exactly who frecuency they use 08.24.37 # it might be easier t buy a shortwave radio and just run the output of the radio to the mic input on your dap, IF IT HAS ONE 08.24.42 # eep caps 08.25.33 # if it doesn't have a mic input port, you can always unsolder the built-in mic and add one on 08.26.33 # provises it has a built in mic of course :P 08.27.17 # well 08.27.25 # I need se if has a DAP 08.28.03 # of course 08.28.21 # * Anorion|eee is studying pinouts for the ipod 5g 08.28.25 # but, I think that the microphone only have the emisor, and I can't manipulate the microphone of teachers 08.28.51 # and the receptor is to high 08.28.52 # gonna wire it into my car, since the battery is toast 08.28.54 # to access him 08.30.07 # well 08.30.10 # anyway 08.30.49 # now I'm thinking, I believe it is still easier to sit as far forward as I can 08.34.19 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 08.55.35 Join liar [0] (n=liar@83.175.83.185) 09.13.55 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.15.22 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 09.15.34 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 09.39.54 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@f053154253.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.49.24 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4DFE6.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.00.07 Join Zarggg_ [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 10.00.31 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.46 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host51-165-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.17.37 Quit dmb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.18.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.35.48 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@g227080091.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.43.52 Quit kramer3d ("Leaving") 10.44.18 # how can I get more information of h100 iRiver? 10.44.28 # are a page on rockbox about her components? 10.45.11 # may be reading the manual? 10.45.29 # I only found the page of her status 10.59.16 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 11.03.35 # Spaceghost: well, depends on what kind of information you are looking about. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 12.18.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.20.14 Join Space [0] (i=quassel@r190-0-138-188.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 12.21.15 Quit Spaceghost (Nick collision from services.) 12.27.12 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@ALyon-551-1-92-212.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.41.01 Join Grahack [0] (n=Grahack@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 12.46.59 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.49.12 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 12.58.38 # I'm going to experiment today to get the audio on the ams sansa running from a different PLL, so that we can improve the audio sample rate accurac 13.01.44 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.06.36 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.07.03 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@vpn10.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.09.36 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.12.25 # this will cost a little extra power, the datasheet mentions 2.5 mW typical, which works out to approx 0.8 mA extra battery current while playing (I guesstimate the total battery current at about 30 mA) 13.14.22 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.18.20 Quit `Assassin () 13.27.44 Quit mt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.27.52 Join bluebrot1er [0] (n=dom@g226068077.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.28.17 Join mt [0] (n=mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 13.28.37 Part S_a_i_n_t 13.28.42 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.4.35) 13.32.22 Quit stooo ("Leaving.") 13.32.29 Quit syrius ("Leaving") 13.32.30 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@g227080091.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.36.37 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 13.37.14 Nick Space is now known as Spaceghost (i=quassel@r190-0-138-188.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 13.38.41 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.41.30 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.48.31 Join Buschel [0] (n=ab@p54A3EFA9.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.49.21 # Is it normal than under simulator (simulating e200) if I keep 2 pressed (mouse wheel right), then the device backlight off after a while ? 13.49.57 # betrik: in fact this not "little extra power". ~1mA will be hard to compensate and will shorten the runtime by >30 minutes (when assuming >16h runtime as I can see from the e200 runtime page) 13.52.48 Join stooo1 [0] (n=sto@g227080091.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.52.49 Quit stooo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.53.24 # Buschel, some people will still prefer the better pitch 13.53.52 # this is a comprise between audio quality and power consumption that is not very clearly settled yet IMO 13.54.02 # This can be yet another a settings ! 13.55.04 # bertrik: well, at least it will be a good start to have a patch to be able to evaluate and make a decision 14.00.34 # hm, it seems I can't even enable PLL B yet :) 14.01.05 # I guess the current PLL initialisation code skips some steps for PLLA that can't be skipped for PLLB 14.02.19 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 14.03.01 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.12.12 Join tarnzwerg [0] (n=abc@77-20-147-39-dynip.superkabel.de) 14.12.36 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.16.13 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 14.17.36 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 14.18.40 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.18.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.22.58 # yay, I can enable PLL B, now see what happens when I attach it to the audio clocks 14.23.12 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 14.23.48 Quit stooo1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.23.51 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@g227080091.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.23.58 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.27.00 # hm, I think it works, PLL B is now enabled and used for the audio clock and I'm hearing audio played back at normal sample rate 14.28.22 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 14.29.48 # is the difference in clock precision audible to you? 14.30.08 # no 14.30.38 # but I'm just playing some random audio, not some test track and I don't have perfect pitch 14.30.49 # pitch perception 14.31.41 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.32.17 # ok. any option to measure the current? 14.33.21 # We'd have to either measure it directly or derive it from runtime measurements, there is no built-in current measurement facility on the ams sansa 14.33.41 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 14.33.45 Join stripwax__ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 14.34.28 # I remember saratoga had the possibilities to do such measurements 14.35.08 Quit stooo ("Leaving.") 14.38.15 # I'm a bit puzzled, why is usb_drv.h there is a usb_drv_startup function which is not called anywhere ? (is is something specific to usb-arc ?) 14.38.35 # *-is+in usb_drv.h 14.40.03 # And the same applies for usb_drv_reset (usb-arc specific one again ?) 14.42.15 # And the usb_drv_attach function seems to have the same particularity ! 14.45.45 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCA5E8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.47.36 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.49.22 Quit petur ("plop") 14.51.12 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 14.51.15 Quit stripwax__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.52.06 Quit Buschel () 15.24.48 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24211): Sansa AMS: allow use of PLL B for more accurate audio sample rate (0.04% instead 0.15% error) 15.30.15 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 15.47.53 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.51.31 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 15.53.54 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24212): Fix svn:keywords property in as3525 target tree 16.04.31 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 16.13.46 Quit tarnzwerg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.16.03 Quit Oxymis (Remote closed the connection) 16.16.07 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 16.18.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.19.44 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.23.09 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@g224238136.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.24.49 Quit Horschti (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.26.09 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.31.46 Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.31.52 Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 16.34.44 Join HBK- [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 16.35.43 Quit bluebrot1er (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.45 Part froggyman 16.46.32 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.49.16 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.49.29 Nick HBK- is now known as HBK (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 16.50.50 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 16.51.46 Quit KBH (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.53.24 Quit jds2001 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.55.16 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.56.45 Join jds2001 [0] (n=jds2001@fedora/jds2001) 17.04.45 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-188-101-001-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.12.01 # bertrik: Can you change the pll in use for the cpu core? 17.12.28 # I think so, but I'd have to study the data sheet to be sure 17.13.55 # it looks like I can freely choose between the two PLLs and the crystal frequency for the cpu core, but I'm not sure I can just switch clock source on the fly 17.29.11 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.35.03 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 17.44.12 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 17.44.25 Quit GeekShadow ("The cake is a lie !") 17.46.22 Join sniper68 [0] (n=6168a6df@giant.haxx.se) 17.46.54 Quit sniper68 (Client Quit) 17.55.59 # bertrik: If that's possible you could save power by only enabling the 2nd pll for boosting 17.58.16 Quit Tomis () 17.58.37 Part Ubuntuxer 18.05.04 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 18.06.01 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.98.183) 18.07.09 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.12.19 # gevaerts: could you tell me when you'll have time, I have questions on the usb subsystem ? 18.12.25 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.13.02 # pamaury: I'd guess tomorrow evening 18.13.15 # I kind of like the current ams sansa boost scheme where we can boost without delay 18.13.28 # (i.e. not having to wait for a PLL to start up) 18.13.33 # New commit by 03tomers (r24213): Revert r24174 following the discussion on mailing-list 18.13.47 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 18.14.09 # OTOH, we do already wait for the CPU voltage change during boost/unboost 18.14.35 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-8-207-202.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 18.17.47 Quit dmb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.18.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.29.58 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.36.32 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 18.38.52 Join Buschel [0] (n=54a3f6aa@giant.haxx.se) 18.39.31 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 18.42.56 # I am not really happy with the commit of r24211. I would have preferred a patch in flyspray first. This could be tested and measured regarding power consumption. A decision whether to submit or not should be made based upon all relevant information and not just upon fractions of percentages of clock precision. <- Just my opinion of course. 18.52.54 Join saratoga [0] (i=463f90ed@gateway/web/freenode/x-jvochqjpzazhgvzk) 18.52.56 # the patch is in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10906 . r24211 just makes it possible, but doesn't actually change the clock configuration 18.56.01 # bertrik: my fault. then everything is fine me of course. sorry :-) 18.56.09 # *for me 18.57.20 # http://shop.kineteka.com/Products/100-sansabreakout.aspx 18.57.34 # nice cheap way to get a multimeter onto a Sansa if anyone is interested 18.57.52 # * soap is a little confused. Is the PLL on and sucking power in current SVN, just not being used, or is it only drawing power when said patch is applied? 19.01.28 Join tarnzwerg [0] (n=abc@77-20-147-39-dynip.superkabel.de) 19.03.49 Join fenugrec [0] (n=ABC@modemcable247.111-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 19.03.56 # * pamaury is puzzled about usb_enable being called with true in some situations and not in others... 19.12.04 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 19.19.47 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 19.20.24 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 19.21.42 # soap, there are two PLLs of which currently only one is enabled, the patch enables the other one and uses it for generating an audio clock that more accurately creates the default sample rate 19.22.11 # ok, so the commit does not turn on the PLL, just provides the framework for using it? 19.22.23 # exactly 19.22.35 # Sorry for the confusion. 19.22.40 Join kramer3d [0] (n=kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 19.25.11 Part fenugrec ("Leaving") 19.28.24 Join dmb_ [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 19.31.10 Quit Anorion|eee (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.37.59 Quit mt (Remote closed the connection) 19.39.09 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.46.39 Quit dmb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.48 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 19.48.49 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.48.57 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.48.57 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.49.06 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.49.15 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.00.44 Join Anorion|eee [0] (n=anorion@ga743.texashealth.com) 20.01.10 # Are the Fuze version numbers of the form 01.xx.xx and 02.xx.xx as withthe others, and do you get to it in the OF by Settings --> System Info? 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23.26.44 # not really... do "insert shuffled" a few times, then skip to almost the end of the playlist, then do "insert last shuffled" and not where the tracks are added 23.26.54 # they should all be after the current track 23.27.01 Quit bluebrother (Client Quit) 23.28.22 # it seems those 2 inserts dont actually effect eachother so I;m not sure hwats going on 23.30.30 # s/not/note? 23.30.50 # somewhere in the first statement.. ;) 23.30.53 Quit OldOne ("CGI:IRC") 23.32.44 # "so I'm not sure whats going on" 23.32.56 # JdGordon: 23.32.57 # it looks like moving the current track shouldn't matter either 23.33.12 # JdGordon: I suspect "not where the tracks are added" 23.33.30 # ah, yes 23.34.02 # yeah, took me some more reads to understand that 23.35.02 # sorry :/ 23.36.02 # * JdGordon isnt sure if this is related to insert shuffled, or recursive insert 23.37.08 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.3.157) 23.48.17 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 23.49.09 Join mc2739_ [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 23.49.15 Quit mc2739 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.49.20 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 23.54.35 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl)