--- Log for 13.01.110 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 12 days ago 00.08.14 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.08.41 Quit bzed (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.08.41 Quit parafin (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit ps-auxw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit Sajber^ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit matsl (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit Oxymis (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit GodEater (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit BeFalou (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit sbhsu (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit kadoban (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit Rob2222 (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit panni__ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.08.41 Quit giLL0r 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I remember quite clearly using it (just to mess around) on my iriver (h140), but I can't find the option on my iPod 5.5g 80gig... 00.57.01 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r24217): SansaAMS: Disable voltage scaling. ... 00.57.53 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 00.58.07 Quit panni__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.10 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 00.58.40 # Falco98: it should be there... 00.59.09 # i had no luck finding it under display or LCD options. am I looking in the wrong spot? 01.01.27 # "upside down" under lcd options? 01.02.06 # just checked lcd options on mine, i don't find that option listed 01.02.19 Join terrakok [0] (n=terrakok@92-100-241-39.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru) 01.02.25 # maybe its not on that target 01.02.31 # it is there on the mini2g though 01.03.17 # interesting 01.03.24 # no big deal, i was just wondering about it 01.03.31 # it seems like it might be useful for the 5.5's also 01.04.43 Quit markun ("leaving") 01.05.15 # hello! possible to port rockbox to the aria e6? 01.06.35 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.08.13 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.09.10 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.10.54 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.10.55 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.11.35 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 01.12.45 # possible to port rockbox to the player on microchip ALI M7101 01.14.14 # clip+ firmware update seems to be available! 01.16.00 # and what? yes or no? 01.16.32 # sorry (i don't know english) 01.17.50 Quit dfkt_ ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 01.22.37 # terrakok: (almost) anything is possible... someone just needs to do the work 01.22.50 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c57f@gateway/web/freenode/x-ktojmvuzjxeqffqy) 01.23.06 # clip+ firmware file has the same as3525 string as the Clipv2 01.24.54 # I have a clip+ in peices if anyone wants it to experiment 01.25.15 # I'll do it. hope... 01.25.54 # is the ALI M7101 even a CPU? google says its a power management chip 01.26.06 Quit toffe82 ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]") 01.26.56 # i guess the same tricks used to patch the clipv2 should work on the clip+, just got to find a GPIO pin that can be used for dual booting 01.27.47 # is that guesswork? or there is a way to figure it out without defininte bricking? 01.28.28 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 01.28.59 # JdGordon|: IIRC the trick used was to test each GPIO, and if its not pressed pause 10 seconds then boot the OF 01.29.14 # if it is pressed, boot straight to the OF 01.29.31 # then you mash buttons while booting until you find a GPIO thats mapped to a button 01.29.48 # sounds like fun :/ 01.30.01 # on the upside theres not too many GPIO on AMS 01.30.21 # dont the buttons go through the dbop thingy? 01.30.37 # a few do, but most don't 01.30.48 # and most DBOP pins can be read as GPIO too 01.31.34 # although the clip+ is so similar to the clipv2 maybe the button pins are the same 01.31.48 # that would be nice 01.31.52 Quit terrakok (Remote closed the connection) 01.33.47 # maybe funman can be convinced to write up the procedure in the wiki or something 01.36.04 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 01.38.58 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 01.39.59 Quit Tuplanolla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.43.18 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-11-130.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.55.16 Join terrakok [0] (n=terrakok@92-100-241-39.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru) 01.56.33 Quit terrakok (Remote closed the connection) 02.03.07 # is there any documentation on clearing all settings by using the hold switch on an ipod? 02.03.24 # i ask only because i want to read the official word on it, after accidentally doing this to myself while trying to dual-boot a few days ago 02.03.55 # (i flipped the hold switch like a millisecond too late, and RB itself told me it had "successfully cleared settings" or something similar) 02.05.23 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.05.45 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 02.13.24 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.15.24 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 02.16.33 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.20.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.25.35 Quit ps-auxw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.37.04 Quit shaggy-h (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.39.31 Join ps-auxw [0] (n=arneb@79.247.252.52) 02.40.09 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.45.48 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-138-16-167.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.46.05 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@host113-178-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.49.03 Nick darkham is now known as krabador (n=darkham@host113-178-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.50.00 Join webguest98 [0] (n=bd9541b6@giant.haxx.se) 02.53.37 # Falco98: probalby in the manual... thats indeed what was expected 02.55.29 # i looked around in the manual. i believe you that it's in there, but i couldn't figure out what section to look in if so. 02.55.51 # (and i checked a few.. finding no reference to it) 02.59.53 Quit webguest98 ("CGI:IRC") 03.05.43 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-67-244-76-16.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.07.56 Quit fyrestorm (Client Quit) 03.08.39 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-67-244-76-16.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.10.08 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-67-244-76-16.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.11.52 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.22.59 Quit fyre^OS ("lamers envy me like they envy bill g -- main boot xp, just the way it should be!") 03.24.34 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.24.54 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 03.25.32 Quit ps-auxw (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.26.00 # New commit by 03funman (r24218): amsinfo: support clip+ firmware format 03.27.40 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.35.06 Join cjcopi [0] (n=craig@adsl-76-243-205-250.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 03.40.46 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 03.45.03 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.1.89) 03.46.28 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCB68B.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.51.30 Quit MagusG ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 03.51.53 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-jixwcpyjrdtjaoqe) 03.52.01 # what does the arm opcode "stmgtda" mean? 03.52.06 # i can't find any documentation for it 03.54.13 # i get STore Multiple Decriment After but have no idea what the GT does 03.55.06 Join Lss__ [0] (n=Lss@cm23.omega219.maxonline.com.sg) 03.55.21 # oh conditional 03.55.23 # bah 03.55.59 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.57.03 Quit Lss (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.58.47 Part heftig 04.04.28 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.05.32 # New commit by 03funman (r24219): Add Sansa Clip+ target to test mkamsboot ... 04.05.43 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 04.06.41 # JdGordon1: first thing you can do is see if mkamsboot bricks your Clip+ or not :) 04.06.58 # that should be nice and doable 04.07.03 # once i put it back together :p 04.07.54 # echo bootloader; /scramble -add=cli+ bootloader bootloader-clip+.bin 04.09.25 # echo bootloader? 04.09.35 # echo > bootloader 04.09.35 # :) 04.10.17 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.10.28 # i think you and mt have a clip+ 04.10.56 # scramble or mkamsboot? 04.12.09 # you need a bootloader for mkamsboot, scramble will turn a file into the proper format for mkamsboot 04.12.27 # also you need to uncomment the Clip+ firmware checksum in mkamsboot.c 04.13.07 # so scramble a file with random junk? 04.13.48 # yeah 04.14.06 # i don't think the Clip+ bootloader will even build 04.14.30 # scramble did nothing to the file 04.14.40 # i just did an svn up + make in tools 04.14.42 # but created another one 04.15.17 # scramble just adds 32 bit checksum and 32 bit ID to the file content (and outputs another file) 04.15.26 # ah so it did 04.16.00 # bootloader-x.sansa is 8 bytes larger than bootloader.bin 04.16.23 # 9 04.16.36 # hm then there is something wrong 04.17.41 # 7bytes and 16 bytes 04.17.55 # scramble align output on 32 bits so it's ok 04.18.10 # funman: if i want to play around on clipv2, should i be using the 12/31 patch, or is everything relevant in the chunk that went into svn? and, is it worth installing at all / is there anything i could do to help? 04.18.49 # Unhelpful: everything is in SVN, though i removed the dma diff I used for testing 04.19.06 # ok, so next step? 04.19.27 # JdGordon1: mkamsboot clppa-orig.bin dualboot-clip+.bin clppa.bin 04.20.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.20.34 # Unhelpful: installing the bootloader should run the test code in firmware/target/arm/as3525/sansa-clipv2/sd-clipv2.c : sd_transfer_sectors(), and show you where you can start :) 04.21.52 # basically i got some SD registers and some of their bits, but I don't know how to start data transfers 04.22.20 # funman: dualboot-clip+.bin? 04.22.31 # the one from scramble? 04.22.31 # JdGordon1: whatever scramble outputted 04.22.49 # ah. and i assume i can still get to the OF to be able to do things like install a new bootloader when there's further work? 04.23.08 Quit antil33t () 04.23.15 # Unhelpful: yes, you can dualboot with usb or left button just like on Clipv1 04.23.20 # ok, all patched 04.23.28 # copy it on and prey it boots to OF? 04.23.35 # yeah 04.23.38 # at this point its probably not possible to brick your clipv2, at least not without changing the code in mkamsboot 04.23.52 # or maybe getting the sd driver working adn then scrambling the nand with it :) 04.24.03 # funman: do i need to press any buttons or it defaults to of? 04.24.23 # well, as i got it cheap and have no need of it as a player... ;) 04.24.36 # yeah i got a clipv2 i don't have time for if anyone else wants it 04.24.44 # JdGordon1: defaults to OF, no button are known yet 04.24.47 # saratoga: woot? 04.27.33 # grrrrr.... not connecting to usb 04.27.39 # yeah 04.27.50 # JdGordon1: is it configured for MTP ? 04.28.58 # alriughty! 04.29.59 # fuck, no surprise... i broke the battery connection 04.30.57 # be careful if the connection breaks while upgrade is in progress 04.31.27 # im resoldering it before... 04.31.29 # FUCK 04.31.42 # umm.. ill power it from usb without connected to a pc 04.32.13 # but you need it powered after unplugging 04.32.40 # upgrading... 04.32.44 # hm upgrade should start at next reboot if the file is present 04.32.54 # it boots 04.33.04 # did you notice the delay ? 04.33.44 # yes, and it definitly updated 04.33.49 # firmware number changed 04.33.53 # we are good to go :) 04.33.55 # nice! 04.34.11 # im reassembling before going any further 04.34.25 # next step: add SANSA_CLIPPLUS to the CLIP/CLIPV2 case for USB_PIN 04.34.47 # you need to run make from mkamsboot/dualboot/ and copy dualboot.h & dualboot.c to ../ before rebuilding mkamsboot 04.35.02 # would anyone have any objections to committing this patch? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10905 04.35.11 # it's only like 10 lines of code 04.36.58 # Unhelpful: maybe that patch concerns you? 04.37.50 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 04.39.23 Quit Strife89 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.39.28 # * Unhelpful doesn't see any major problems with it after a brief look 04.43.16 # right, I'm back together :) 04.44.17 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-qhexpcitwwpnkngq) 04.46.08 Join MagusG [0] (i=magusg@c-71-204-46-70.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 04.46.41 # funman: where is USB_PIN? 04.47.03 # dualboot/dualboot.S:89 04.47.28 Quit Oxymis ("No Ping reply in 180 seconds.") 04.47.46 # mkamsboot/dualboot.{c,h} are built from mkamsboot/dualboot/dualboot.S , but committed so you don't need the cross compiler to build mkamsboot 04.47.48 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 04.47.53 # ok, add it to which? 04.48.10 # #elif defined(SANSA_CLIP) || defined(SANSA_CLIPV2) 04.48.22 # just add || defined(SANSA_CLIPPLUS) 04.49.21 # do i need to make mkamsboot again? 04.49.29 # * JdGordon1 hasnt had dinner yet so is stupid :p 04.49.40 # yep: cd dualboot/; make; cp dualboot.c dualboot.h ../; cd ../; make 04.52.04 # so power through USB should be instant, and power through button take the additional delay 04.52.58 # nada 04.53.15 # the delay is still there when plugging on usb ? 04.53.31 # not turning on at all now 04.53.56 # hrm 04.54.08 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.54.19 # :( 04.54.48 # the OF might rely on some value of GPIOA_DIR 04.55.01 # well that was fun :p 04.55.16 # definitely a brick, battery connection is ok ? 04.55.39 # even with no batt it should turn on with usb shouldnt it? 04.55.46 # or is it all before the sansa logo? 04.55.47 # oh right 04.57.34 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@adsl-067-034-129-222.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 04.57.46 # i'll leave a note in the forum 04.58.02 # batt connection looks fine 04.59.01 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f75653b.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.59.30 # to power down the Clipv2 you need to stay on power for 15 seconds or so 04.59.39 # did you check powering with the button only too ? 04.59.58 # ah well, that wouldn't change anything since it will branch to OF anyway 05.01.24 # ill try cpr, but not really having much hope 05.01.48 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.02.34 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 05.02.39 # except that you don't need to do /* contributor */ really thanks to svn blame :) 05.03.04 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@adsl-067-034-129-222.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 05.10.39 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.12.28 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.12.48 # I believe the aim was to track the diff while developping? I use another window to run svn diff 05.13.04 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@c-0d3771d5.012-155-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 05.14.44 Quit Barahir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.20.06 # I can't find documentation on this... when compiling for the 80gb ipod 5.5, which memory size do you select? 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Are there any pdf readers available for the ipod classic? 07.00.45 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.01.06 # lizzzy: this is off topic for #rockbox , you can join #rockbox-community though 07.01.15 # oh cool 07.01.19 # thanks! 07.02.41 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r24220): FS#10898 - Add a playlist viewer to the WPS. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS#Playlist_viewer for an exaplanation how to use it. 07.04.08 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@212.28.217.14) 07.11.46 # button routine of clip+ seems to be at 0x7988 07.13.13 # ah crud... stupid checkwps on the themesite doesnt pass with my demo wps :/ 07.13.39 # eek.. 2K delta 07.14.28 # try setting GPIOB pin0 to 1, wait a bit, read GPIOA pins 1, 6, 7; GPIOC pins 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 07.14.52 Join Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 07.19.46 Quit liar (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.20.34 # WTF at the mr500sim yellow? 07.24.23 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r24221): Fix red and yellow. HWCODEC cant see the metadata for more than the next track so only show the filename there 07.24.35 # JdGordon: needs audio.h 07.24.46 Quit lizzzy (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 07.26.38 # hmm.. every once in a while my ipod refuses to Safely Remove - anyone have a trick for how to tell which program is still allegedly using it? 07.27.02 # google for 'lsof windows' 07.27.22 Join tomers [0] (n=86bfe845@giant.haxx.se) 07.27.29 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4C504.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.27.37 # depends on the length of the next track but true for a common music file (and gets more true with every commit such as this :\ ) 07.28.03 # JdGordon: Hi, can you please update the manual (WPS tags section) with the playlist viewer feature? 07.28.18 # and is the release officially cancelled for this time? 07.28.36 # no 07.29.06 Quit Rob2223 () 07.29.15 # so why rush in a feature now? 07.29.25 # it isn't planned either 07.30.33 # tomers: I don't know how to build the manual, and I outright cant to TeX... I've updated the wiki which should be plenty for someone to add to the manual 07.30.37 # pixelma: hardly rushed 07.30.38 # aha. 07.31.07 # JdGordon: a few days in the forums isn't? 07.31.21 # no 07.31.43 # 6 days 07.32.02 # so? 07.32.14 # has the ipod code recently changed to where USB mode is handled by the rockbox software itself? I just tried a bleeding-edge build and where it used to detect usb and reboot to the default firmware for USB, now it just sticks on the screen with a USB picture on it... 07.32.28 # unless something has happened wrong on my player :P 07.32.30 # JdGordon: OK, I'll try to do it myself 07.32.49 # ta :) 07.33.04 # but it will take some time (not much spare time ATM)... 07.33.10 # toda even :) 07.33.18 # * JdGordon 's brain is slow this evening 07.33.37 # for me it feels like rushed - and if it wasn't you could have known that the patch didn't build on hwcodec 07.33.44 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCB68B.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.33.48 # as it was 07.33.57 # Oh, that's a good opportunity to raise the question regarding the duplicity of having WPS tags documented both in Wiki and in the manual. 07.34.12 # pull it out of the manual imo 07.34.42 # although, it should be somewhere more official than the wiki, but easier to update than the manual 07.35.04 # The Wiki contains all the tags, while the target specific manual contains only relevant Wiki tags - it ignores tags which are ifdefed with defines it doesn't have 07.35.58 # JdGordon: I think I agree with you. Maybe the manual should have a link to the Wiki page? I can't think of a proper solution for this problem 07.36.28 # there is a wps editor which is half finished would be the logical place for this :) 07.36.36 # tomers: at DevCon 2008 it was agreed on having most info in the manual. The wiki is easier to update for anyone though, so CustomWPS is there as a convenience 07.36.57 # does anyone know how to use the bloat-o-meter? 07.37.04 # for comvenience 07.37.07 # Currently there are subtle differences between the manual and wiki for tags that are documented in both, while some other tags are missing from the manual. I don't think that there are tags that are only in the manual, but I haven't verified this. 07.37.26 # JdGordon: ./bloat-o-meter file1.elf file2.elf 07.37.53 # JdGordon: What is bloat-o-meter? 07.38.02 # its not in tools/ ? 07.38.17 # its a program to show where bloat was added between builds 07.38.20 # tomers: a tool in utils/analysis to see the differences between 2 builds (where the size increase is located for example) 07.38.32 # thanks 07.39.56 # tomers: I think it doesn't hurt to see all tags (and am a bit against this excluding in the manual), because it helps people understanding WPSs - maybe ones they are porting or so. Of course things should be marked as "not possible on target X (or e.g. monochrome screens or whatever)" 07.40.13 # pixelma: I tried to synchronize the wiki and manual and found out many differences. I'm not a native English speaker, and my experience here regarding rephrasing, etc, is quite poor :-) so I am not going to do it myself, but I will try to add some missing tags, which I already started lately. For example, the FM Radio tags 07.40.37 # FM radio tags? 07.40.54 # a tiny few were added 07.40.59 # just in SBSs I think, currently 07.41.40 # I can't see why they are in the manual. The manual is too long already, adding them makes it appear bigger than it is, it should only be to teach the user how to use rockbox 07.41.47 # pixelma: err... I meant recording screen tokens: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS#Recording_Screen_tokens_currentl 07.41.47 # themeing should be a seperate area 07.41.49 # tomers: documentation of the %ax tag was/is terrible imo, or could be clmore clear at least :P 07.42.11 # tomers: same there (SBSs) 07.43.18 # S_a_i_n_t: JdGordon wrote the documentation of %ax. Talk to him. I am planning on adding it to the manual soon, so now it's the time to fix it :-) 07.43.28 # 250 bytes were added because get_line() was made public! 07.43.58 # pixelma: I don't understand what you mean (SBSs) 07.44.15 # SBS = custom statusbar 07.44.30 # JdGordon: What about it? 07.44.47 # New commit by 03funman (r24222): Sansa as3525v2: move SD embryo code to a common dir ... 07.47.49 Join stoffel_ [0] (n=quassel@p57B4CFD4.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.49.16 Join kramer3d [0] (n=kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 07.49.40 Quit CaptainKewl ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 07.52.08 # Olympus M-Robe 500v 07.52.10 # Olympus M-Robe 500 07.52.16 # that is full supported? 07.52.20 # the cam? and all? 07.52.58 # the cam isnt supported at all 07.53.05 # audio works on it though 07.55.08 # JdGordon: regarding the pl-widget, well done! 07.55.43 Join Guest23293 [0] (n=n17ikh@m7d5e36d0.tmodns.net) 07.55.50 Join Space [0] (i=quassel@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 07.56.14 Quit n17ikh (Nick collision from services.) 07.56.22 Quit Guest23293 (Client Quit) 07.56.44 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@m3d5e36d0.tmodns.net) 07.57.28 # sorry, JdGordon I lost my connection, the last that I could read was: 07.57.34 # audio works on it though 07.57.46 # you or someone else said something more? 07.57.54 # no 07.58.09 # not about the mr500 anyway 07.58.59 # * S_a_i_n_t shall have some fun pissing-around with the playlist viewer tonight :D 07.59.28 # try put up something simple for the nano's 07.59.55 # JdGordon, I need boot the original firmware to take photos? 08.00.01 # yes 08.00.03 # Space: I can always use the log: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-today 08.00.17 # s/I/you/ 08.00.29 # oh, I hadn't idea of that, thanks tomers 08.02.17 Quit stoffel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.02.27 # wouldn't the link to irc log be useful in the topic ? 08.02.40 Mode "#rockbox +o funman " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 08.02.54 Topic "Rockbox 3.4 has been released! | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged on http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-today" by funman (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.03.00 # :) 08.03.10 # * S_a_i_n_t :-D 08.03.13 # Also users will know they are 'monitored' 08.03.39 # ...oh no, it's 'big brother' man... 08.03.59 # big rockboxer :) 08.04.22 # our typo's can be used against us! 08.05.04 # je, I would say that 08.06.49 # tomers: that those tags regarding recording and radio can only be used in the custom statusbar file, the two screens themselves aren't skinnable 08.07.07 Quit hebz0rl (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.08.14 Quit kramer3d ("Leaving") 08.08.20 # pixelma: Thanks 08.09.15 # JdGordon, the touchscreen is supported? 08.09.19 # * JdGordon doesnt see the point in losing a good deal of functionality to reclaim only 100 bytes 08.09.23 # Space: yes 08.09.48 # but beware... its in a stupid grid mode by default, so read the manual to figure out how to put it in stylus mode 08.09.53 # funman: The logs are going back to 2002 :-) BTW March-June 2002 logs are empty... 08.10.20 # the logbot probably went on strike :) 08.10.25 Mode "#rockbox -o funman " by funman (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.11.19 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Ex-Chat") 08.12.07 Quit Spaceghost (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.12.59 Nick Space is now known as Spaceghost (i=quassel@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 08.13.24 Join Bagder [0] (n=dast@giant.haxx.se) 08.14.24 Quit tomers ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.14.45 Quit _diablo ("Leaving") 08.20.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.41.46 Join martian67 [0] (n=arkfar@about/linux/regular/martian67) 08.42.44 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDC9D03.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.47.54 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r24223): fix typo 08.56.18 Join Grahack [0] (n=Grahack@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 09.00.31 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.00.50 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.05.18 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host51-165-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.08.31 Quit n17ikh () 09.09.42 Part LinusN 09.10.20 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 09.10.28 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.18.57 Quit BRi7X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.18.58 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 09.20.27 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8F3C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.23.26 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 09.25.55 Quit maruk (Client Quit) 09.28.35 Topic "Rockbox 3.4 has been released! | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc/" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 09.30.12 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.31.00 Join giLL0r [0] (n=gill0r@g227210098.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.32.42 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 09.37.26 Quit scorche (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.45.11 Join ps-auxw [0] (n=arneb@p4FF7F1F0.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.51.39 Quit funman ("free(random());") 09.53.35 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.58.37 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 10.10.30 Quit Falco98 ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]") 10.19.13 Quit stoffel_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.20.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.24.31 Quit Grahack ("Tu m'as vu ?") 10.51.28 Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.59.27 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.59.27 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.00.06 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.00.06 NJoin Galois [0] (n=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 11.01.16 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.17.03 Join JohannesSM64 [0] (n=Johannes@cm-84.208.207.140.getinternet.no) 11.17.27 # my iPod froze and holding down play/pause doesn't help. any way out? 11.21.53 # you need to hold down select+play 11.22.11 # or select+menu 11.22.15 # in this case at least, not for a normal shutdown... 11.22.20 # (middle+top button if i'm not mistaken) 11.23.32 # thanks! 11.23.57 # the music db function is rather unstable :/ 11.24.55 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@124-197-56-62.callplus.net.nz) 11.24.59 Quit antil33t (Remote closed the connection) 11.25.09 Quit scorche (Nick collision from services.) 11.25.55 Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 11.30.24 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.44.36 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@81.62.94.77) 11.47.12 Quit JohannesSM64 (Remote closed the connection) 11.50.19 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-76-202-17-167.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 12.02.25 Quit rhodan_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.06.29 Join watto [0] (n=watto@193.203.81.165) 12.13.59 Quit rhodan (Remote closed the connection) 12.15.31 Join webguest69 [0] (n=59f9eb78@giant.haxx.se) 12.20.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.21.00 Quit webguest69 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.22.21 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 12.28.50 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 12.28.50 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.35.09 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.35.09 NJoin Galois [0] (n=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 12.35.19 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133108225.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.35.50 Join ShadoW- [0] (i=chatdeau@server0.tonbnc.fr) 12.35.54 # Hi ! 12.36.18 # I just wanna say thank you for your great software 12.36.24 # (excuse my bad english :p) 12.39.30 Quit ShadoW- (Client Quit) 13.13.57 # is there any known issue related to life of battery on ipod nano 1. generation? the wiki etc says stable but i wonder since rockbox i get about 5 hours of music, usually i started the ipod in the morning and it ran til late evening.. any hints on how to check out whats wrong, or test the battery like in rockboxk compare to ipods default software or so 13.14.02 # ? 13.21.25 # Rockbox usually has similar or better battery life than the OF 13.21.58 # Reset all the Rockbox options to default, and see how long the battery lasts. Many of the advanced options in Rockbox will drain the battery quickly 13.22.06 # Then see how long the OF lasts, and compare 13.28.48 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.28.55 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.0.220) 13.29.10 # its not too much away from default settings but a different skin, font and language, will compare on the weekend. thanks for the reply 13.38.20 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 13.44.18 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.45.17 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 13.55.55 # New commit by 03teru (r24224): mpegplayer: ... 14.04.11 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.07.12 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.07.18 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.0.173) 14.13.20 Part Bagder 14.20.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.28.41 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.28.41 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.37.12 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.37.12 NJoin Galois [0] (n=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 14.42.29 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 14.54.39 Part LinusN 14.55.55 Join mwarning [0] (n=mwarning@ip-78-94-206-18.unitymediagroup.de) 14.56.08 Quit teru ("Quit") 14.56.34 # is rockbox available for the ipod nano 4th generation? 14.56.43 # no 14.56.47 # :( 14.57.14 # will it be supported at some point in the future? 14.59.54 # if someone found how to run custom code on nano4g and port rockbox, yes. Else no. 15.09.43 # from what I understand there's an exploit in the nano4g which might make it possible to run custom code on it - but that's as far as the work has gone I think. 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They haven't. Why would they care about a petition? :) 17.36.48 # giving out the encryption information necessary to get alternative firmwares going. 17.37.13 # a few dozen people clicking "sign here" on some web page isn't going to convince apple of anything. 17.37.40 # krazykit, it's the best I can think about right now. 17.37.40 # the linux4nano people have already broken the crypto for the nano 4g 17.37.59 # Torne: in a usable way? 17.38.08 # * gevaerts hasn't really followed this 17.38.08 # if they wanted people to be able to do this stuff why would they include the crypto in the first place? 17.38.11 # gevaerts: i thought so 17.38.12 # i may be wrong 17.38.22 # iirc the latest 4g firmware kills the Notes exploit though 17.38.45 # I got my ipod nano today and experience the whole truckload of itunes cumbersomeness. (I use linux) 17.39.59 # yeah, linux4nano wiki says the iBugger core runs on 4G now 17.40.34 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@ALyon-551-1-39-152.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.40.38 # but 4g firmware 1.0.4 fixes the notes exploit 17.40.48 # Torne: there's a second step though, getting code accepted by the in-flash bootloader 17.41.11 # Ah, true 17.41.16 # you could do a tethered boot tho :) 17.41.32 # some slightly crazy people seem happy with that for iphone jailbreaks :) 17.41.50 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 17.42.48 # and that part is mostly a matter of tedious slogging disassembly, no? 17.43.00 # rather than having to actually bruteforce the exploit address as is needed on most of the other models still :) 17.43.25 Join Lans [0] (n=kllkjlkj@ip95-206-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 17.43.50 # not sure. IIRC the boot code does check signatures at least 17.44.43 # i guess it depends whether the 4g boots in a similar way to the nano 2g, or in a similar way to the touch 17.45.06 # anyway this is the limits of what i know so hey 17.45.07 # I hope the hardware is mostly the same 17.45.16 # No, the hardware is very different 17.45.24 # well, somewhat different 17.45.26 # :/ 17.45.41 # the 4g is the same SoC as the 2G ipod touch 17.46.18 # so, yeah, if you don't like itunes i suggest you take it back :) 17.46.31 # buy something else 17.46.46 # iPod Nano 1st gen; Rockbox has a sleep timer and a wake-up alarm, but they cancel eachother out (one cannot be active while the other is). Does this mean that i can't make the ipod stop playing after 20 minutes, and start playing (incrementally volume wise, if possible) at a set time, without touching the ipod in between both events? 17.47.29 # i don't see why you shouldn't be able to use both at once.. 17.47.46 # does it say that in the manual somewhere, or did it just not work when you tried it? 17.47.56 # Neither do I, but quoting the manual: "Using this option disables the Sleep Timer." (for the wake-up alarm) 17.48.16 # interesting 17.48.47 # So i guess that means i can't use both at once? :( 17.49.00 # No 17.49.12 # it looks like the way it's coded means the only way to set the wake-up alarm is to turn the player off immediately 17.49.30 # i don't know of any reason why it should *have* to be that way, though.. 17.49.34 # It's things like this that i wish i knew how to code. 17.49.45 # * Torne has a look :) 17.49.50 # that make me* wish 17.50.52 # perhaps it was to annoy people 17.51.05 # everybody wants to do that once in a while :) 17.51.21 # we're supposed to have nobler motives than that :) 17.51.35 # * Lans laughs 17.51.43 # but we're human, and don't :P 17.52.56 # interestingly i can't find where the alarm code powers off. 17.54.11 # The Wake-Up alarm shouldn't power off, should it? Can it run and look at a timer to see when it should start playing, when it's powered off? 17.54.33 # yes, it powers it off 17.54.43 # it's only supported on targets with an RTC which are able to wake the player up at a specified time 17.54.49 # You're right according to the manual though, "Select confirms the alarm and shuts the player down, ..." 17.54.52 # we set the RTC up and then turn off 17.55.10 # and when the RTC turns us on again we do whatever the set action is, resuming playback or starting the radio etc 17.55.15 # but i can't find the actual call that shuts the player down :) 17.55.39 # It doesn't, apparetly. 17.55.48 # it doesn't 17.55.48 # ? 17.55.49 # I just set the timer to wake up in 16 hours, and it's still running 17.55.53 # Hmm 17.56.10 # manual is wrong, then? 17.56.12 # showing the "Time & Date submenu" 17.56.29 Quit petur ("*plop*") 17.56.45 # I'm gonna try it tonight then, maybe they don't cancel eachother out after all? 17.57.00 # you could try it now, surely? 17.57.06 # set the alarm for 10 mins 17.57.09 # and the sleep timer for 5 :) 17.57.32 # i've never actually used either so i was just going by the manual 17.58.00 Join mc2739_ [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 17.58.39 # 10 minute waiting time, it's playing right now, as it should. Should stop playing in 5 minutes, and then start playing again in 10, if the manual is incorrect, that is. 18.01.52 Quit mc2739 (Nick collision from services.) 18.01.52 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 18.03.26 # it's now shut down. 18.03.34 # ... 3 minutes into it. 18.03.45 # there doesn't appear to be anything in the code for either to imply they are mutually exclusive 18.04.02 # it doesn't disable the alarm when the sleep timer is set or when it expires and powers off, that i can see. 18.04.05 # or vice versa. 18.04.39 # So why'd the thing just power down prematurely? It was full of juice, so it hasn't run out of power. 18.04.53 # i have no idea :) 18.05.01 # Oh, was it idle? 18.05.08 # No, it was playing music. 18.05.25 # well, hm 18.05.29 # see if it turns back on i guess :) 18.05.41 # if it does then i guess that's unrelated 18.07.06 # Hasn't yet, maybe the clock was just off by a couple of minutes. I didn't check the ipod clock against my pc clock, i just compared the ipod clock to my pc clock when the ipod shut down. Hopefully i just jumped to the wrong conclusion 18.07.19 # Whups, just powered on again 18.07.31 # That was definitely not 5 minutes 18.07.37 # it isn't? 18.07.46 # 18:03 to 18:07 18.07.49 # you said that at 17:07 by my clock, and you said it shut down at 17:03.. 18.08.02 # Yah, with allowing for delays of human reactions that sounds like about five minuts 18.08.14 # i suggest you check the clock :) 18.08.28 # and/or test it properly. i dunno. 18.08.35 # but it does seem like the manual is just wrong/outdated 18.08.39 # and that actually this works fine 18.08.42 # no? 18.09.42 # Hope so, leaving the thing playing all night makes me dream weird shit. I mean really, jumping off of clouds of treebark into ponds of molten metal, weird. 18.10.40 # But... F yeah! :D 18.11.40 # yah, it looks like it used to power down immediately, but it was changed in 2005 :) 18.11.54 # Shame about the lack of incremental volume's though. Falling asleep with loud arse music is hard, and waking up to soft arse music doubly so. 18.13.57 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.14.09 # The manual has a comment in the source that says "todo this isn't right for all targets i think" :) 18.14.57 # i'll raise a bug on the manual, anyway 18.15.16 # "this isn't right for all targets"...? whah? 18.15.49 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 18.16.51 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.18.08 # Lans: it used to work differently a long time ago when htere was only one target that supported the alarm 18.18.18 # when the manual got updated whoever did it wasn't sure how it worked, i think :) 18.18.21 # i've raised a bug 18.18.34 # if you have a problem using it "in practise" come back and tell us :) 18.19.10 Join hebz0rl [0] (n=hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-213-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.20.25 Join Willy [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-72-34-113.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 18.20.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.20.49 # Btw, congratulations on being one of the few actually nice people that i've met on zhe interwebs. Rock on, Torne. 18.20.55 Quit Lans () 18.21.02 # sorry if stupid question, but will I have any problems with Rockbox if I switch to Windows 7 64 bit? 18.21.35 # don't think so 18.22.12 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.22.16 # but it might depend on you're pmp and such 18.22.59 # Willy: You shouldn't, no. We implement USB mass storage in a perfectly standard way 18.23.36 # ok. 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18.57.59 # you crayzee! 18.58.31 # dude i just want to know if i can help to port rockbox into the iphone 18.59.28 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.59.35 # shouldn't be much of a problem. find a way to run custom stuff on an iphone, port rockbox yourself, done 19.02.43 # if u tell me what i need to have to done it 19.02.59 # i mean i still at the beginning of porting things so a help would be nice is somebody want to help 19.03.45 # you will need a way to replace the firmware on an apple device with rockbox. there is no such way known 19.04.21 # the agreed way to do a phone port is to get rockbox running as an app... not as a firmware replacement 19.04.24 # well i think there must be a way to run a emulator to run rockbox coz look i know that iphone can run windows 95 19.04.35 # jdgordon right 19.04.50 # thats what i think about thats why i think a emulator should be able to done 19.05.43 # well, couldn't rockbox be made into a "free" app? 19.05.48 # a native app is probably "easier" 19.06.03 # ^thats what I mean 19.06.14 # rockbox-as-an-app is often discussed, but never done 19.06.41 # we need to get a team toghter to done that well i am sorry that my english is not the best ^^ 19.06.43 # perhaps you can get the simulator built for iphone 19.06.44 # that's because none of the devs will enough to do it 19.07.03 # how much devs we would need 19.07.53 # idk, i don't think it'd be that many or that hard 19.08.03 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-vfdgshfxenkeoygt) 19.08.18 # well if i can do anything to get this startet i would love to help 19.08.23 # as topik said, if the simulator could be ported to an iphone app, that'd be easier than CFW for the iphone 19.08.52 # i know they have done a Nintendo DS Simulator for iphone 19.08.58 # maybe the same can done with rockbox 19.09.11 # i think that's different 19.09.20 # webguest44: setup the tools to develop for the iphone, try to compile the rockbox sim, and then write whatever code is needed to get it running 19.09.52 Quit martian67 ("xD") 19.10.13 # well saratoga i think i would take time but if people is ready to work on it it would be great 19.10.20 # coz who dosent love rockbox here :D 19.10.33 # and i miss the custom eq from rockbox :( 19.10.42 # webguest44: get something working and I'm sure other people will take interest 19.11.42 # well i gonna say it right away here i am a beginner at codings but i still try to get it to work but first i need to get the setup tools for develop for iphone 19.11.43 # seems that thinks like SDL are ported to iphone/sdk already 19.11.52 # things even 19.12.28 # http://developer.apple.com/iphone/ 19.13.19 # objective-c sounds scary 19.13.45 # it is 19.14.02 # worse than the boogeyman 19.14.37 # oh year 19.14.45 # that gonna be funny to done that onw indows 19.14.51 # would make for a nice gsoc project ... rockbox as an (iphone) app 19.15.27 # topik: as it is now, isnt the rockbox sim capable of running on mac osx? 19.15.52 # that would be the first step 19.15.58 # i think it can be r un only on win ? 19.16.06 # it runs on MacOS 19.16.09 # it does yes 19.16.20 # most of us don't even develop in Windows 19.16.26 # it runs on linux too 19.16.38 # i thought most of you are commies running loonix :P 19.16.56 # i got a pc not a mac but i got on my second drive i got leopard running on my intel ^^ 19.16.57 # there is something to decide before you even start the port to the iphone 19.17.08 # do you want it to be available by the appstore or not? 19.17.19 # it is unlikely, in my view though, that Apple would allow it 19.17.25 # nope only over cydia 19.17.39 # coz i am sure apple dosent gonna allow rockbox via appstore 19.17.51 # why not? 19.18.00 # because it plays music 19.18.06 # :) 19.18.11 # and it got a custom eq 19.18.20 # apple do not let apps into the store which replace existing functionality 19.18.21 # and like u know apple dosent have that ^^ 19.18.26 # Apple won't allow a software which is direct concurrent 19.18.30 # elaborate? (i know apples not that great, but i dont think they suck that much) 19.18.39 # they suck massively 19.18.45 # i know 19.18.46 # for real eater 19.18.52 # * pamaury like moderate opinions on apple 19.18.58 # but that's like not allowing audacity on mac osx :( 19.19.05 # they suck moderately too, pamaury 19.19.33 # somebody speak german here ? 19.19.42 # no, it's not allowed 19.19.46 # so nobody dares 19.20.12 # well guys right now i dont have osx running on my intel 19.20.22 # so if somebody want to join and help to get this thing started 19.20.33 # it would be great for a 2010 Rockbox Project 19.20.35 # you can develop from linux too 19.20.44 # Knoppix ? 19.21.03 # well, you need a writable file system to install the SDK 19.21.09 # so a livecd probably isn't the best approach 19.21.15 # cross compiling the osx version on linux? 19.21.24 # that will probably be frustrating exercise 19.21.34 # why? 19.21.36 # i can still install the live cd on my pc so that would probely work 19.21.54 # you'd still need to test it in osx 19.22.02 # again, why? 19.22.35 # you'd compile on linux, transfer it to your iphone and test there? 19.22.41 # it's what I'd do 19.22.53 # if I still had an iphone 19.22.55 # :) 19.23.12 # which reminds me, I have about 2 gig of disc space I can free up by deleting the SDK! 19.23.19 # hehe 19.23.29 # 2GB? 19.23.34 # like i sad i am a beginner not a pro like some guys here 19.23.36 # if taking the osx sim as a start, i would imagine being able to test it on osx would be benificial 19.23.41 # and i got a big respekt for the work they done 19.23.50 # so i still i hope ic an get help here 19.24.03 # that's the size of VB .net 2005 & visual studio 6.0 combined 19.24.13 # there's a lot of reading you can do first, webguest44, like http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator 19.24.14 # topik: possibly yes, but that would mean owning OSX 19.24.39 # which I, and virtually every other Rockbox hacker does not have 19.24.51 # yeah i get that 19.24.55 # it's why we have the most difficulty keeping the OSX version of RBUtil up to date 19.25.51 # The simulator will build and run on Mac OS X, linked with libSDL 1.2.9. There are still problems with sound output. i dont think its gonna be easy 19.25.55 # to port that 19.26.08 # you have to start somewhere 19.26.34 # first u guys need to look for the sound output problem 19.26.39 # no we don't 19.26.47 # webguest44: its easier than making your own hack for the iphone or something 19.26.50 # any sound issues are in libSDL 19.27.12 # or building all your libraries yourself 19.27.22 # @arbingordon u got msn or aim 19.27.31 # nope 19.27.47 # i suck at programming, so its no real loss ;) 19.28.31 # well i hope to get help here and how much other devs have iphones here ^^ 19.28.40 # virtually none 19.28.51 # all the people that did have them have recently got rid of them 19.29.03 # virtually none is that like having a simulator? 19.29.09 # :) 19.30.29 # let me put it this way, I can think of only two people here that have an iphone 19.30.31 # and only one of them is a programmer 19.30.31 Join kitz [0] (n=kit@83.166.176.138) 19.30.32 # :) 19.30.32 Join SteWieH [0] (n=Juggalo@69-92-30-172.cpe.cableone.net) 19.30.54 # while people are talking, any likeliness of an xvid avi player? 19.31.04 # ok Im sorry Im asaking yet MORE questions.. I got rockbox installed but is there a shuffle function around on it somewheres? 19.31.15 # SteWieH: have you read the manual ? 19.31.24 # cant seem to find it. I may be having an id10t error.. 19.31.30 # arbingordon: no more or less likliness than any other feature 19.31.31 # theres a manuel for it? 19.31.34 # yes 19.31.41 # it's linked on the rockbox web site 19.31.42 # check your models manual 19.31.43 # on the right 19.31.46 # called "manual" 19.31.58 # great so only me and the other guy with a iphone here 19.32.19 # i really hope that people dont give up rockbox 19.32.19 # webguest44: you've arrived too late 19.32.33 # perhaps finding a place where iphone developers hang and suggesting a rockbox project there gets you started quicker 19.32.49 # good luck with that 19.32.52 Quit Galois (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.32.52 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.32.56 # that's friendly of you :) 19.32.57 # first i think that here would be the right place coz 19.33.00 # the irc channels with iphone developers in are horrible 19.33.07 # initially all your problems will be iphone development related 19.33.21 # webguest44: here is almost never the right place to suggest a new port 19.33.27 # all the people here HAVE rockbox devices already 19.33.31 # they don't really need new ones 19.33.32 # GodEater: it might be that irc protocols and trademarks aren't owned by apple 19.33.42 # arbingordon: huh? 19.33.43 # ^^ hope so 19.33.49 # nevermind 19.34.06 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4CAB4.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.35.19 # let me be clear, we would LOVE to see Rockbox running as an app on an iphone. But the chances of someone that is already here starting that port are slim to none. 19.35.38 # i wonder, what about the google android thing? 19.35.44 # ditto for that 19.35.57 # having just bought a Nexus One, I'd love to see it running there :) 19.36.19 # Nexus is awsome :D 19.36.33 Quit giLL0r (Remote closed the connection) 19.36.39 # they give you some nice hardware under the hood i presume? 19.36.45 # me too. I was supremely frustrated by the sucky default android music player the other day 19.37.33 # Zagor: have you done any investigation into getting native code running on it? 19.37.40 # or is still all java stuff? 19.37.50 # GodEater: no, there's a native sdk now. 19.37.54 # arbingordon: much better hardware than in an iphone :) 19.38.03 # Zagor: that presents certain challenges then! 19.38.04 # so it shouldn't be too hard 19.38.14 # * GodEater re-reads 19.38.17 # so what, 1+gHz in there? 19.38.19 # emphasis on "shouldnt" ;) 19.38.27 # Zagor: well volunteered :) 19.38.32 # arbingordon: yes 1Ghz 19.38.34 # arbingordon: this should probably be taken to some sort of off-topic channel 19.38.46 # scorche|sh: why? We're talking about a rockbox port! 19.38.53 # the big work other than basic driver porting is doing a proper touch-only interface. 19.39.18 # our d2 touch stuff isn't very friendly 19.39.22 # yeah, I guess the D2 stuff isn't that portable 19.39.31 # wonder if it was optimized it could handle x264 video on it 19.39.42 # I'm sure shotofadds would welcome help there 19.40.11 # arbingordon: the common misconception with video codecs is that they'd "just play" if the DAP supported the codec 19.40.19 # this is not true - they still need to resized 19.40.25 # naturally 19.40.27 # arbingordon: nexus1 does H.264 AVC 19.40.50 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.75.200) 19.40.57 # yea, looking over the wikipage 19.43.58 Quit Tomis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.43.59 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.75.200) 19.44.18 Quit kitz ("Leaving") 19.44.49 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.46.51 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-21-143.unitymediagroup.de) 19.48.07 Quit kaniini ("(saatana^) voe kauhistus") 19.49.42 # Zagor: is it easy to run native code on the Nexus One (e.g. SDL)? 19.50.05 # I don't know, I haven't looked at it yet. I just know it exists. 19.51.02 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 19.51.04 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.51.19 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 19.51.19 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.51.24 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 19.51.36 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.53.00 # http://sdlonandroid.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=sdlonandroid/sdlonandroid;a=tree 19.53.17 # that's a start :) 19.53.48 # hrm i cant get a playlist to save 19.53.55 # this is going to cause issues 19.54.46 Join JdGordon| [0] (n=Miranda@nat/microsoft/x-dzmcrkuzewahnbnl) 19.55.03 # if I make a playlist with Itunes can rockbox see it? 19.55.19 # if its a m3u or m3u8 it can 19.56.15 Join Space [0] (i=quassel@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 19.56.17 # well rockbox is saving playlists then mysteriouslly not seeing them 19.56.40 Quit Spaceghost (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.57.08 # because you have your file view settings set to "Music" properly 19.57.12 # you should change the setting to "Supported" 19.57.17 # and then the playlists will show up 19.57.25 # hrm 19.57.36 # to many settings to set up when they should be on by default 19.58.21 # "Supported" is the default iirc 19.58.33 # think so too 20.02.46 # show files is supposed to be supported and not music? 20.03.56 # yes 20.04.22 # well, if you want to see files other than music files only 20.04.55 # we ship rockbox with that setting at "Supported", so if your ipod has it as "Music" it's because you changed it. 20.05.05 # gr 20.05.12 # Its still not seeing my playlists 20.05.32 # where did you save them? 20.05.43 # even fi I click on "create Playlist" and then on "save playlist" it still wont see any playlists 20.06.20 # and what did you call them? 20.06.36 # settings > general settings > file view > "show files" 20.06.39 # w/e rockbox called them 20.06.41 # change that to supported 20.06.46 # I already did 20.07.30 # weren't you lead to the virtual keyboard for naming the file? 20.07.53 # we don't save playlists without going to the virtual keyboard do we? 20.08.30 # pixelma if I click on save yes 20.08.35 Quit tarnzwerg (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.08.43 # I think if you create a playlist of all, you'll automatically get a root.m3u8 20.08.48 # it was named dynamic.m3ua 20.08.58 # m3ua? 20.09.08 # well that'll be why it's not showing... 20.09.11 # if they a got added it wont be supported 20.09.15 # it was named dynamic.m3u8 20.09.15 # * 20.09.30 # SteWieH: and did you press the correct "accept" button in the virtual keyboard? 20.09.40 # I have nfi tbh 20.09.49 # I dont knwo what the accept button is tbh 20.10.07 # the play button 20.10.23 # then yes 20.10.26 # depends on the target... and is explained in the manual 20.10.27 NHeal (timeout) niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.10.35 Quit pjm0616 (Remote closed the connection) 20.10.37 # and whe I go to view playlist it says "no playlists" 20.10.50 # it cant even find the root.m3u8 either 20.11.48 # the playlist catalog defaults to a different location than where they are saved 20.11.56 # put your playlists in /Playlists 20.12.07 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.12.33 # the dynamic.m3u8 are saved in the root of your player - so top level if you browse files 20.13.02 # if I remember correctly 20.13.11 # hrm 20.13.22 # k i moved my root playlist over to the playlist folder 20.13.32 # should we default to adding /Playlists/ at the start of the path name in the virtual keyboard when saving a new playlist? 20.13.35 Quit Tomis () 20.13.45 # maybe 20.13.55 # make it a tad more nub friendly -_-` 20.14.37 # GodEater: I seem to remember a rather heated argument about that when it was brought up on the tracker 20.14.57 # but yes, we shuold 20.15.11 # hrm k i got the root playlist to show up 20.15.36 # FS#8940 20.15.38 # now I gotta figure out how to get them to play 20.16.50 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.75.200) 20.17.40 # there we go 20.17.53 # loaded the playlist and just had to go to resume playback >< sorry 20.18.04 # GodEater: I would very much be in favour of moving the default playlist location to the catalog, but its not something I use so if someone else wants to push for that patch to go in good, otherwise meh 20.18.21 # SteWieH: it didnt start automatically? 20.18.34 # No 20.18.35 Quit stoffel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.19.13 # if I shut it down should it reload the playlist automatically? 20.19.20 # yes 20.19.27 # RTFM :) 20.19.32 # will it reshuffle the songs each time as well? 20.20.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.24.59 # also cool that it tells you what song it will play next 20.25.00 # no, they remain in the same shuffled order unless you re-shuffle them manually 20.25.31 Quit Guest14906 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.38 Join liar [0] (n=liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 20.25.46 # ug 20.26.00 # that be hella annoying 20.26.05 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.26.12 # it resumes playback from where you stopped 20.26.17 # it doesnt start again from the begining 20.26.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 20.27.00 # yeah, seriously, go and read that 20.30.43 Quit webguest44 ("CGI:IRC") 20.31.28 # * SteWieH looks through the manuel to figure out stuyff then 20.34.10 Join Galois [0] (n=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 20.36.37 Quit SteWieH () 20.42.06 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 20.48.55 # * gevaerts is a bit late for the discussion, but he can't help pointing out that he has the sim running on his phone 20.50.06 # time to bother gevaerts with questions ! Hopefully I only have a few of them. 20.50.56 # gevaerts: first, when a driver stall an endpoint, should this endpoint reject all transfers on the endpoint until it is unstalled ? What happened when the control endpoint is stalled ? 20.51.25 # Second, what usb_drv_cancel_all_transfers() is suppose to do regarding the pending transfer on control endpoint ? 20.53.29 Part mwarning ("Leaving") 20.54.33 # pamaury: the first question: yes. It should reply with a STALL until the condition is cleared 20.56.11 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.56.37 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCA5A5.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.57.32 Quit hebz0rl (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.57.33 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 20.57.43 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.57.58 # And what if the code stall control endpoint ? 20.58.07 # for the second, apparently usb_drv_cancel_all_transfers() is called from USB_REQ_SET_CONFIGURATION and USB_REQ_SET_ADDRESS. That means that the system has *always* just received an OUT control transfer, and the host is waiting for the ack (which is an empty packet), i.e. there should never actually be anything in progress 20.58.24 # Torne: The wakeup alarm powering off the device is a safety feature 20.59.15 # If we don't do this, and the alarm fires while rockbox is still running, some targets latch up so they cannot be powered off anymore 21.00.18 # gevaerts: yes but the cancel will stall the transfer no ? So the host will think there's an error. 21.00.32 # pamaury: it shouldn't stall anything 21.01.18 Part watto 21.01.30 # just tell the controller chip (which I guess is you in this case :) that the last request should be stopped 21.01.55 # I don't understand: "should be stopped" ? 21.02.27 # i.e. for IN any data already sent to the controller shouldn't be sent out, and for OUT it shouldn't expect data anymore 21.02.59 # A possible solution would be to delay alarm setup, so that the alarm is never actually enabled while rockbox is running 21.03.05 # i.e. it should behave as if not yet completed usb_drv_send() or usb_drv_receive() calls had not happened 21.03.59 Quit Utchybann (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.04.25 # * pamaury thinks it will leave it as a stub ;) And for stall control endpoint ? 21.05.41 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 21.06.04 # Because if the code stall control endpoint, the host has no wait to unstall it no ? 21.06.39 # "For the Default Control Pipe, a device reset will ultimately be required to clear the halt or error condition if the next Setup PID is not accepted" 21.07.01 # so yes, if you stall EP0, it remains stalled until bus reset 21.07.20 # Ok 21.07.41 # New commit by 03Creposucre (r24225): set the ipod volume on the ipod fm remote when the tuner is turned on. Also, prevents a looping execution of the set_mono command. 21.07.56 # * pamaury just thinks he forgot to clear stall status on bus reset ;) 21.08.11 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 21.09.39 # amiconn: which targets have to do that? 21.10.41 Quit Oxymis (Remote closed the connection) 21.11.30 # I know that archos recorder fm/v2 do, as well as alarm modded recorder v1. I have no idea whether this was investigated on any other target 21.13.35 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.15.01 # It's related to how the rtc alarm performs the power-on action 21.15.23 # the beast doesn't need it at least, and it doesn't power down when setting the alarm so this is at least a manual bug 21.15.45 Quit arbingordon ("Page closed") 21.16.01 Quit killan_ ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 21.16.38 # only thing that happens when alarm triggers while running is that we gaet an interrupt that is masked anyway 21.17.11 # but i agree that making it impossible to power off is bad ;) 21.17.56 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.18.31 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.19.09 # Probably all targets using a PCF5060x PMU don't need that measure 21.20.38 # On archos, the RTC doesn't trigger an interrupt iirc; the alarm just bridges the ON button using a transistor, until the alarm bit is cleared (manually, via i2c) 21.21.16 # your suggestion about delaying the actual setting of the alarm to poweroff should work for all targets 21.21.37 # yup 21.21.42 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 21.22.22 # If we have proper shutdown serialisation one day, it could even be handled in a target dependent way in the rtc driver 21.22.47 # On targets that need this protective measure, the driver would store the alarm time internally, and enable it on shutdown 21.29.04 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 21.31.34 # just calling a rtc_shutdown function when powering off, should do it, no? 21.32.01 Quit captainkewllllll ("Page closed") 21.32.19 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.33.13 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.36.42 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 21.37.23 # amiconn, what do you mean by proper shutdown serialisation? 21.39.30 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.40.46 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.41.18 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 21.41.28 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.46.10 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 21.50.14 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-83f070d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 21.52.31 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.53.33 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.56.57 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 22.09.00 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.16.52 # bertrik: I mean that instead of having a global shutdown function and arbitrarily destroying threads, each thread should be responsible for its own housekeeping on shutdown 22.17.03 # This is a necessity for proper suspend 22.17.36 # It needs well-defined interdependency handling 22.20.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.20.43 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.23.11 Join Creposucre [0] (n=56c3a2fd@giant.haxx.se) 22.23.16 # Hi 22.25.29 # Zagor, B4gder: May I get developer rights, so I would be able to close bug reports please? 22.26.37 # Creposucre: done! 22.26.59 # tahnks a lot! 22.27.18 # *thanks 22.28.21 Join Utchybann [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 22.32.06 Quit Creposucre ("CGI:IRC") 22.49.38 Nick shaggy-h is now known as chrism (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 22.56.21 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-11-130.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.03.49 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23.06.41 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.13.17 Quit pamaury ("abort();") 23.14.25 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 23.17.42 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.17.46 Quit petur ("Z") 23.39.37 Join Stephen_ [0] (n=S@86-45-72-67-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net)