--- Log for 14.01.110 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 13 days ago 00.01.57 Quit Res1 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.03.34 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 00.03.55 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@adsl-067-034-129-222.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 00.08.58 Quit Strife89 ("Restarting laptop.") 00.11.50 Part froggyman 00.19.44 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.20.23 Join Barahir [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f75653b.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.20.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.17 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.26.11 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.44.33 # JdGordon: Is it too late/difficult to add support for %ig to the playlist viewer/widget-thing (does it have a name?)? 00.53.23 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-11-130.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.00.03 # whats ig? 01.02.15 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 01.03.43 # JdGordon|: genre 01.04.16 # its easy to add... I dont really think it needs to be though 01.05.11 # I might change the way those id3 tokens get their value so they are all automatically supported 01.05.55 # that'd be nice, all the metadata tags? 01.06.40 # all the %i ones 01.07.21 # i'd just like genre as its one of my primary sorting methods, but that'd be even better 01.07.31 # * S_a_i_n_t :-) 01.09.02 # JdGordon|: composer definitely needs to be supported! 01.09.06 # it doesnt really make sense though... how often would you have a playlist that has a big enough mix of genres that it important to see what the next one is? 01.09.09 # * S_a_i_n_t apologises for being the guy that always wants more... 01.09.41 # * JdGordon| thinks gevaerts should start listening to music that is new enough for it to be called the artist, not composer :) 01.10.08 # JdGordon|: you might be surprised! 01.32.28 Quit fyrestorm ("Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!") 01.34.39 Quit GodEater (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.35.38 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 01.35.49 # is there anywhere i can get .ipsw files from other than gaytunes? 01.36.23 # what's gaytunes, some website? 01.36.46 # itunes ll 01.36.57 # *lol 01.37.04 # i remember coming across "mirrors" of the ipsw before 01.37.07 # yes, it's linked from the IpodManualRestore wiki page 01.37.26 # i'm surprised apple hasn't shut them down for copyright infringement though 01.37.26 Join evilnick [0] (i=457288ab@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 01.37.27 # oh gosh, what's the proper page name... 01.37.32 # S_a_i_n_t: please use the proper names for things... 01.38.04 # sorry. 01.38.04 # S_a_i_n_t, it's linked from here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore 01.38.17 # http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ try that 01.38.35 # ah its on the wiki nevermid 01.38.37 # thnkx kit, saves me installin itunes just for that. 01.39.05 # i deleted my bakup 01.39.09 # * S_a_i_n_t :'( 01.39.58 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 01.42.39 # hmmmmm, how is that site not been killed by apple? 01.42.55 # s/is/has/ 01.45.07 # who knows 01.46.33 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 01.53.32 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.53.55 Part toffe82 02.00.36 Join _diablo [0] (n=_diablo@c-71-63-155-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.01.08 Quit Stephen_ ("Leaving") 02.01.31 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.03.00 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.08.48 Quit jordan` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.09.52 Join martian67 [0] (n=arkfar@about/linux/regular/martian67) 02.12.38 Join jordan` [0] (n=jordan@78.235.252.137) 02.14.33 Nick Space is now known as Spaceghost (i=quassel@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 02.17.43 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 02.17.54 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.20.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.29.39 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.30.30 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.34.27 Join arbingordon [0] (i=User@c-71-226-250-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.37.09 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.39.22 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.41.39 Join FraterMus [0] (n=mouse@cpe-76-184-146-198.tx.res.rr.com) 02.42.16 Join _arbingordon [0] (i=User@c-71-226-250-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.43.12 Quit arbingordon (Nick collision from services.) 02.43.17 Nick _arbingordon is now known as arbingordon (i=User@c-71-226-250-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.46.24 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.46.34 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.51.04 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.52.34 Join fenugrec [0] (n=patator@modemcable247.111-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 02.55.20 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 02.56.53 Join _arbingordon [0] (n=User@c-71-226-250-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.58.40 # how do I run ipodpatcher from the commandline? 02.58.58 # do I need to compile it first? 02.58.58 Join __arbingordon [0] (n=User@c-71-226-250-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.59.24 # I'm looking at Advanced Rockbox install methods with ipodpatcher 03.00.56 # you can use a precompiled ipodpatcher 03.01.24 # if you're using a different file, it'll take that on the command line 03.01.44 # I may as well compile it myself, so how do I go about that...? 03.03.24 Part froggyman 03.03.42 # it's in rbutil/ipodpatcher 03.04.13 # so just ./ipodpatcher from there? 03.04.19 # * S_a_i_n_t is unix n00b 03.04.27 Part fenugrec ("Leaving") 03.04.30 # well, you have to make it first 03.04.40 # looks like just running make is enough 03.04.57 # but having never used ipodpatcher, i'm not really sure 03.05.08 # so just 'make' in rbutil/ipodpatcher? 03.05.15 # not make ipodpatcher? 03.05.33 # and thnks btw 03.06.47 # I did read the Guidelines. Is this where I ask for write perms to WikiUsersGroup? WikiName=FraterMus 03.06.57 Join webguest29 [0] (n=63eba7aa@giant.haxx.se) 03.07.19 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 03.07.31 # after it's outputted the ipodpatcher, can I move it from there (ie place it in the build dir), or does it need to be run from where it is? 03.10.39 # it can be moved, if you like 03.11.29 # FraterMus, it is. just a moment... 03.11.42 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-138-16-111.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 03.12.49 Quit arbingordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.13.19 # FraterMus, you should have access. mind if i ask what you're editing? 03.14.01 # Thanks. 03.15.08 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 03.15.08 # Since I am not a C-coder or anything I figured I'd help with docs if possible. There is a missing word in the c200 page, at least for some models. 03.15.16 # Figured I'd start small 03.17.37 Quit __arbingordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.18.26 # thanks krazykit :-D 03.18.31 Quit _arbingordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.21.15 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 03.35.51 Quit GodEater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.36.40 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 03.48.22 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 04.03.45 # man, bootup is WAY faster with rockbox.ipod & the bootloader in the OSOS, totally worth the fiddlyness during instal. Awesome :) 04.04.26 # but don't you have to update that every time you update rockbox? 04.04.42 # i guess it's not a big deal if you only use releases 04.05.46 # just need to appen the bootloader each time, it'll stil work if you forget to, just don't get the boot spped advantage apparently 04.05.52 # says the wiki anyway... 04.07.14 # *append 04.09.30 # hmmmm, something interesting I've noticed is that booting to OF asks for the language to be set every time? any ideas why? 04.10.06 # solution: never boot into the OF? 04.10.15 # :P 04.10.33 # well, that's a workaround...not a solution lol 04.10.47 # not even a workaround really :P 04.12.08 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.16.55 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@host113-178-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.17.40 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 04.19.05 # I mean...it's irrelevent since I never use the OF, but I've noticed with dual-boot with the nano that when I boot to the OF it asks me to select the language each time, and the lcd brightness is REALLY low until the backlight shuts down for the first time then after that it returns to its usual brightness. 04.19.12 # Anyone else noticed this? 04.20.14 # <_diablo> S_a_i_n_t: what is the OF? 04.20.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.22.49 # OF means original firmware 04.23.27 Join GodEater [0] (n=bibble@bb-87-80-121-64.ukonline.co.uk) 04.24.31 # <_diablo> ah, okay. 04.25.00 # <_diablo> S_a_i_n_t: I have not noticed that happen to me. although I'm running RB on my sansa fuze 04.26.09 Quit Zarggg () 04.26.14 # which, the language selection, the backlight, or both? 04.26.45 # i wouldn't expect you to have similar symptoms, as you're both using very different devices... 04.27.37 Nick dmb__ is now known as dmb (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 04.29.52 # I'm gonna restore my nano and see if it still happens using the usual ipodpatcher method... 04.35.55 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (n=tchan@c-67-173-8-246.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.38.45 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 04.43.26 Quit togetic ("WeeChat 0.3.0") 04.43.33 Nick darkham is now known as lrabador (n=darkham@host113-178-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.43.44 Nick lrabador is now known as krqbador (n=darkham@host113-178-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.44.00 # in "Advanced Rockbox install methods with ipodpatcher" method 4 "OSOS contains only Rockbox", you still need to install the bootloader right, but just in the usual manor, and not to the OSOS....correct? 04.44.30 Nick krqbador is now known as krabador (n=darkham@host113-178-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.45.05 Quit Oxymis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.48.21 Part froggyman 04.49.35 Quit Strife89 ("Bed.") 04.51.04 Quit evilnick ("Page closed") 04.53.48 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.57.44 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.57.50 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f755157.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.04.23 Part FraterMus ("Leaving") 05.05.38 Join kaniini [0] (n=kaniini6@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 05.13.43 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.14.03 Quit Barahir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.19.44 Quit Tomis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.20.16 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.70.108) 05.20.51 Quit krabador ("Sto andando via") 05.40.35 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.50.04 # amiconn: shouldn't leaving threads as-is suffice for suspend, since RB uses cooperative threading? it's not like other threads can be "doing" something while suspend is in-progress 05.56.30 Part toffe82 05.57.10 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 06.08.37 # Unhelpful: it seems the SD code in clipv2 OF takes between 6kB and 8kB 06.09.50 # hmm actually it might be a little more: up to 16kB 06.10.36 # anyway, i think we miss the 'magic bit' to start data transfers (the code for DMA is the same than for clipv1), and then error bits 06.12.12 Quit nima (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.13.35 Join nima [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-233-128.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 06.18.17 Quit MagusG (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.20.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.35.08 # people who could be interested are mt with his clip+ (though no experiment until mkamsboot & lcd drivers are written for this model) and kugel with the fuzev2 (only lcd is missing) 06.43.29 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 06.46.27 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@c-98-232-168-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.47.07 # funman: I've objdumped the clip+ firmware, can you get me pointed at the SD code with an address or give me a hint how I may figure that out? 06.50.20 # FlynDice: init is at 0x962C, function table for itnernal storage is at 0x8b98 06.50.49 # i only looked at the init function and table layout and saw it was identical to clipv2 06.51.00 # i have commented disassembly for clipv2 though 06.52.26 # do you share....? :) 06.52.52 # obviously :) 06.57.43 Quit bagawk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.01.01 Join pjm0616 [0] (n=user@61.250.113.98) 07.08.14 Quit CaptainKewl ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 07.15.39 # is Frater Mus a real name? 07.28.58 Join yoen [0] (n=rdx@125.164.106.42) 07.31.03 # wala 07.32.19 Join hebz0rl [0] (n=hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-213-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) 07.34.15 Quit kaniini (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.36.36 Part yoen 07.37.51 # S_a_i_n_t: if the OF asks for the language every time it means the OF cant save to the disk(file system corruption...). can you play music with the OF? that happend on some nanos with TheSevens prebuild dd backups 07.41.52 Quit liar (Client Quit) 07.43.04 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.56.51 Join Space [0] (i=quassel@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 07.59.26 # liar: yes, the OF could play music 08.00.45 # I've ended up just trashing the OF and installing only rockbox to the OSOS :D 08.00.57 # so, it's kinds irrelevant now. 08.01.06 # *kinda 08.01.48 # dual boot is a cool feature to have, if you use the OF... 08.03.18 # but I've decided to expirement and see which install methods have which results when it comes to booting into OF, it'd probably be handy for someone somewhere to know that information... 08.04.33 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@wlan-nat-24.fh-friedberg.de) 08.07.20 Join plopp [0] (n=chris@dsl-245-144-249.telkomadsl.co.za) 08.10.00 # Unhelpful: No, since it would mean the threads are gone when waking up again 08.13.17 # amiconn: how are they "gone" if the scheduler's state is saved on suspend? 08.13.47 Join MagusG [0] (i=magusg@c-98-192-69-229.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 08.14.11 Quit Spaceghost (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.21 Join Spaceg [0] (i=quassel@r190-0-132-38.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 08.15.28 # The threads end themselves.. so they aren't running anymore 08.16.04 # i'm not sure i understand why they'd do that... 08.16.32 # Because with only ordinary shutdown there is no need to keep them running. 08.17.12 # yes, but i would assume suspend would not perform an ordinary shutdown... 08.17.12 # And proper hardware handling isn't as important either. Most things will "magically" be handled by the power going off 08.18.22 # Of course, and that's what needs work 08.18.32 Quit Space (Operation timed out) 08.19.56 # For suspend we need a framework that makes each thread perform the necessary housekeeping, in the correct order. And if we have that, it should be used for ordinary shutdown as well, because it reduces special cases and code duplication 08.20.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.21.08 # Just one example is backlight and the backlight thread. For shutdown it doesn't matter whether the backlight is on or off - it will go off anyway. Not so for suspend... 08.22.37 Quit funman ("free(random());") 08.24.33 # it seems to me though that for many things simply having the thread's memory and the scheduler state would be sufficient 08.26.15 # Hmm? 08.26.27 # if it's not managing something that we might want to force into a specific state on resume, it would seem to me a thread could simply be left "running", since it can't actually run while the suspend/resume happens, and then it just runs whenever the scheduler runs it next 08.26.40 # The scheduler has nothing to do with suspend; its state doesn't need any special handling 08.27.14 # Suspend just clocks the CPU waaay down, and puts the DRAM into low-power self refresh mode 08.27.39 # That means the suspend/resume code itself needs to reside in IRAM, and must not yield 08.28.03 # Apart from these details it essentially means that rockbox keeps running 08.29.03 # Hence it means that the respective drivers need to shut their hardware down (DAC, backlight, ...) and remember to reinitialize it again on resume 08.31.05 Part plopp 08.32.16 # Our current way of shutting down things is very different from this. 08.41.00 # how do i compile ipodpatcher with an embedded bootloader? 08.47.55 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host51-165-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.52.32 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCBEBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.55.58 Join PaulJam [0] (n=Paule@p54BECC3D.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.59.04 Join rhodan_ [0] (n=quassel@81.62.143.187) 08.59.07 # how bad would it be to split the giant switch in skin_tokens.c into a few smaller functions? 09.00.01 Quit rhodan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.10.14 # did some fiddling, "Advanced Rockbox install methods with ipodpatcher" using method 2 'OSOS contains Rockbox and the Rockbox bootloader' OF asks for the language to be set every boot. Method 3 'OSOS contains only the Rockbox bootloader' does not, nor does method 1 'default'. Method 2 is described as the fastet way to dual boot dev builds, but the inconvenience of having to set the language each time nrgates any speed increase at boot time. 09.11.07 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.11.58 # there's a trick to get it to write the settings to disk S_a_i_n_t 09.12.21 # something about plugging it into the computer before rebooting into rockbox 09.12.53 # all dual boot options don't properly initiate the backlight until the backlight shuts off, then turns on again. backlight is very dim at boot, but if you let it turn off, when it turns on again the brightness is correct. 09.12.54 # i think it causes the apple firmware it to switch to disk mode and it writes its settings out before doing that 09.13.00 # why is this? 09.13.48 # because the port isn't finished 09.14.32 # ah...i see. 09.15.55 # Tomis: so what, I need to make sure that the iPod is still connected when I reboot into rb from the OF and it will write the setttings then? or did I misunderstand? 09.16.23 # if i remember correctly, yes that's correct S_a_i_n_t 09.17.09 # i read it on either one of the rockbox pages, or the iloader pages for the nano 2g 09.17.26 # so it may have been iloader specific and i could be remembering it wrong 09.17.52 # so far, I'm having the best luck with install method 3 'OSOS contains only the Rockbox bootloader', but if what you say is correct (I'll give it a try soon), method 2 is ideal as the boot is significantly faster for rb. 09.18.46 # *without the hindrence of setting the language each time that is... 09.24.02 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 09.36.47 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.40.14 Join Bagder [0] (n=dast@giant.haxx.se) 09.47.28 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCA7E8.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.53.53 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.00.23 Join maruk [0] (n=papier@titanium.sdv.fr) 10.05.36 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.19.12 Quit Spaceg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.20.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.25.01 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 10.31.24 Join jae [0] (n=jae@HSI-KBW-091-089-249-155.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 10.35.50 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.49.56 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.05.46 Quit dmb (Connection timed out) 11.06.38 # can anyone tell me how to compile ipodpatcher with an embedded bootloader? I remember reading about changing the top two lines of the make file or something, but I can't remember where I read it, or what to change exactly ;-L 11.09.05 Quit DerPapst ("Leaving.") 11.15.46 Quit yosafbridge ("Coyote finally caught me") 11.17.25 Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@li14-39.members.linode.com) 11.18.28 # figured it out... 11.22.00 Join stacker55 [0] (n=not@151-165-ftth.onsnetnuenen.nl) 11.27.24 Quit S_a_i_n_t ("S_a_i_n_t [St.]™ has left") 11.29.11 # I'd like to ask if someone here would like to assist me with installing rockbox on a philips GoGear HDD6320; i found the emulator at some point, know how to get the device to show up as a MASS storage device. 11.32.33 Join bittin| [0] (i=bittin@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-kvxqylezndmylojq) 11.33.09 # doesn't look like the steps to install are documented anywhere 11.33.11 # which is unfortunate 11.34.39 # if memory serves, it was putting a few files in specific locations, but i am no longer sure of which files and where... 11.35.27 # this appears to be the procedure : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23051.msg158761#msg158761 11.36.51 # that's about all the help I can offer, as I don't own a GoGear 11.37.22 # Thank you; i'll try what is said there. 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I'm trying to figure out why the audio is not working, and was hoping to find some log functionality. 16.35.17 # that's what logf is for! 16.35.38 Join liar_ [0] (i=53af7f68@gateway/web/freenode/x-aycnkomeaxtlvcqb) 16.35.47 # enable that to get logf() support, then you sprinkle the code with logf() and you can view the log or dump to disk 16.36.29 Quit bmbl (Connection timed out) 16.37.30 Join evilnick [0] (i=457288ab@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.38.18 # bagder: ah, so i need to sprinkle the code with logf() calls; Rockbox doesn't continue into the menu though; Is that regular behaviour ? 16.38.35 # continue in the menu? 16.38.40 # GodEater: http://pastebin.ca/1751063 - the steps to get rockbox installed on a philips GoGear HDD6320 16.38.43 # you mean when it starts? 16.39.03 # bagder: yes, it boots, shows the splashscreen and the revision, and stays there. The menu never renders 16.40.21 # that's not expected, no 16.41.46 # I did find posts (older ones) that describe the behaviour i'm having with playback of mp3's, but I'm not sure whether they apply 16.42.53 # RB seems to freeze when trying to play a file; it can read the file and the next one's id3 tag, yet will not start to play. Meaning: no sound, nor a playback counter that increments. 16.43.27 # at some point RB will freeze, with only a reset freeing up the DAP 16.50.46 Join mikroflops_ [0] (n=yogurt@217-208-157-242-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 16.50.50 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.52.07 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.52.12 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.0.22) 16.52.53 Quit mikroflops (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.00.57 Part LinusN 17.04.11 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-vmjqpdmrnwxfqhua) 17.04.42 # we should really think about creating a news page more like XBMC does: http://xbmc.org/ 17.04.52 # with actual paragraphs explaining what is going on from time to time 17.05.13 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@c-0d3771d5.012-155-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.05.21 # its a good way to let people know what is happening 17.06.00 # * Bagder agrees with saratoga 17.07.32 # Bagder: i don't know anything about this web 2.0 nonsense but how hard would it be to setup some sort of blog-ish interface that would let us post things without having to do an SVN commit and then ping you 17.07.53 # or do you want to be ping'ed about it? 17.08.14 # we should probably setup something to allow us to post without ping 17.08.14 # no, the ping is a bottleneck 17.08.34 Join terrakok [0] (n=terrakok@ppp78-37-1-127.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru) 17.08.46 # leaving the front page as is, but making the "news" table link to posts would be nice 17.09.08 # then people could RSS to the project and be informed when major changes or releases happen 17.09.14 Join BdN3504 [0] (n=d4ca7c02@giant.haxx.se) 17.10.08 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.14.14 Quit BdN3504 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.15.00 Join BdN3504 [0] (n=d4ca7c02@giant.haxx.se) 17.15.05 Nick BdN3504 is now known as squid (n=d4ca7c02@giant.haxx.se) 17.16.41 # i have a problem accessing the wiki when i connect to the main site using a squid proxy 17.18.15 # i get a 403 error which looks like the standard proxy reuest denied template but the e-mail address provided on this site is bjorn@rockbox.org+ 17.19.03 # -+ so i think it's a failure of the site. I guess this has something to do with the authentication that is used in the wiki 17.19.43 # it uses the same auth mechanism as my proxy. has this problem occured earlier? how can i fix it and get access to the wiki using my proxy? 17.19.58 # help me! i want to port RockBox on the Rover Aria E6. He has microchip ALI M7101, what his architecture (and RAM) 17.23.15 Quit rhodan_ (Remote closed the connection) 17.25.22 # google says the ALI M7101 isn't a CPU 17.25.30 # are you sure thats what your player uses? 17.26.44 # yes 17.27.06 # it is chip of china 17.27.06 # do you have any information about it? 17.27.25 # very small 17.27.29 Nick mikroflops_ is now known as mikroflops (n=yogurt@217-208-157-242-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 17.27.44 # "M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]" 17.27.49 # i don't think thats the right chip 17.28.39 # is it not possible to access the wiki when i use a proxyx? 17.28.47 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@81.62.143.187) 17.30.02 Quit squid ("CGI:IRC") 17.33.33 # http://www.roverforum.ru/viewtopic.php?t=7314&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225 17.33.51 # ali7101 17.34.52 # terrakok: unless theres two different chips with the same name, that part probably isn't the cpu 17.35.26 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.96.100) 17.36.46 # is there any reason you think its the CPU and not just the PMU? 17.37.35 # "ALi M7101 PMU also available on Sun Netra's too" 17.37.43 # it isn't a cpu 17.39.25 # how to know what CPU? 17.39.26 # but something is strange 17.39.31 # http://bokemp4.en.made-in-china.com/product-group/fqOQUVeuHncv/MP4-Player-catalog-1.html for example 17.39.47 # it lists several players that sound like that could be the cpu 17.40.53 # terrakok: well, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort clearly describes the importance of hires scans of the pcb 17.41.08 # that's at least a first good attempt 17.41.25 # if that fails, reverse engineering is pretty much the only way 17.41.54 # i I read, but I need to know CPU 17.42.19 # so what is the url to the scan? 17.43.14 # one moment 17.45.45 Part Bagder 17.47.08 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@134.102.106.250) 17.49.25 Quit Tomis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.49.42 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.96.100) 17.50.06 Join terrakok_ [0] (n=terrakok@92-100-225-160.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru) 17.50.11 Join amigan [0] (i=dcp1990@pool-96-233-148-187.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) 17.50.45 Quit amigan (Client Quit) 17.53.08 # http://file.qip.ru/dir/10471907/721a0802/sharing.html 17.53.19 # url to the scan 17.53.33 # rover Aria E6 17.54.01 # that's not a scan, that's a photo, and I can't read anything on any of the chips 17.56.19 # written on the side 17.57.08 # yes, but if all we're doing is going on what you've written, you might as well not have taken the picture in the first place... 18.02.04 # the way, ALI M7101E, I'm sorry 18.03.59 Quit terrakok (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.04.54 Nick terrakok_ is now known as terrakok (n=terrakok@92-100-225-160.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru) 18.06.10 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.07.06 # I have not scanner only photocamera 18.11.01 # ok, Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠΉ вопрос, я имСю firmware upgrade, ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π½Π°ΠΉΡ‚ΠΈ bootloader Ρ‚Π°ΠΌ? 18.11.20 # ok, another question, I have the firmware upgrade, how to find the bootloader is there? 18.15.43 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.17.38 Nick Llorean1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@adsl-76-202-17-167.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 18.19.10 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 18.20.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.20.56 Join TopyMobile [0] (n=topy@xdsl-78-34-68-165.netcologne.de) 18.22.40 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 18.22.55 # someone knows the type of CPU - ALI M7101E? 18.24.58 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 18.31.06 # whats up with the "admin work needed" text on the theme site? 18.33.28 Quit Galois (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.34.14 # saratoga: then you walk the fun line of not updating enough, or updating too often and it just being noise 18.34.40 # but yeah, a rockbox blog could be somewhat useful maybe 18.35.48 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24226): Meizu M6SP: fix incorrect readout of button on P1.3 (this is an output to the power controller) 18.38.56 # rasher: im sure I've asked before (so sorry :p ) how often is checkwps on the themesite updated? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.58.43 Nick Utchybann is now known as maruk (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 20.01.14 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.03.38 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@218-127.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.10.08 # I'm getting some unresolved usb symbols during meizu m6sp link, but I haven't specified anything related to USB in the target config file 20.12.04 # bootloader build? 20.13.19 # no, a main firmware build 20.14.33 # debug_menu.c draws in usb for do_screendump_instead_of_usb 20.15.10 # I think 20.16.15 # the unresolved usb symbols are just usb_enable, usb_init and usb_detect 20.16.21 # do you have local changes? I don't get to the link phase 20.16.42 # yes, I'm working on getting it to compile and link 20.17.02 # I'd stub those for now 20.17.23 # Yes, that seems to be the easiest workaround 20.17.56 # although you could probably do usb_detect(). Do we know a GPIO pin for that? 20.18.40 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.20.11 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCBF6B.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.20.44 # no, but the Vusb goes to the power management chip though, maybe we can read it through that 20.20.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.22.51 Quit rhodan_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.24.25 # oh, it also goes into the VBUS input of the SoC 20.26.56 # hm, we're already checking the VBUS input in power_input_status in power-meizu.c 20.31.31 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 20.38.38 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.41.20 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.11 # yay, it compiles and links 20.42.48 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p57AA449B.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.45.43 Join balug [0] (n=dvg@HSI-KBW-095-208-155-207.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 20.46.13 Join rhodan_ [0] (n=quassel@33-233.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.47.40 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.47.51 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 20.52.10 Quit mc2739 ("leaving") 20.54.06 Join kramer3d [0] (n=kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 20.54.38 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 20.55.37 Join __diablo [0] (n=_diablo@c-71-63-155-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 20.58.28 Quit mc2739 (Client Quit) 20.59.55 Quit kaniini (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.00.27 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 21.01.03 # code style question.... skin_tokens.c has one pretty massive switch with a case for each token (a hundred or so cases)... Would it be a terrible idea to split that switch up into a few different functions which have a switch inside them and group cases? 21.03.48 Quit rhodan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.07 # apart from the obvious where you go through a few switch's to get to thr right case (and a few function calls), is there any reasons to not do that? 21.04.23 # if they are grouped logically to make things easier to work with 21.05.00 # I'd expect code size to go up a bit, but i guess it's worth it to improve readability 21.06.24 Part watto 21.07.16 # I don't have a strong opinion either way 21.08.26 # I think I need to add more error protection handling to the playlist viewer :/ if the user puts an unsupported tag in the text it could crash rockbox pretty spectacularly if I do the above 21.09.57 Quit _diablo (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.10.27 Quit Sajber^ ("Leaving.") 21.16.24 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24228): Meizu M6SP: add stubs so the meizu m6sp binary compiles and links 21.17.12 Quit maruk (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.17.29 Join nimak_ [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-242-110.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.17.52 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@77-87.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.20.17 Nick __diablo is now known as _diablo (n=_diablo@c-71-63-155-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 21.26.49 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCBF2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.28.26 Join Grahack [0] (n=Grahack@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 21.32.37 Quit nima (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.37.19 # JdGordon|: not really if you just return a error code from the default case in all those switches in the grouping functions, and jump to a common error handling section. 21.37.28 Join nima [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-252-11.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.38.18 Quit rhodan_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.39.04 # well yes and no... I'm tihnking more of the tokens which have a struct built and stored with the skin to tell it how the token shuold behave (AA or the progressbar for example). the playlist viewer doesnt create that struct, so if one of those got in there it would null-ref crash 21.40.00 # ah, but that crash would happen today too, right ? 21.40.10 # the error protection would need to go in the parser for the playlist viweer 21.40.32 # no it doesnt happen because those tags are all parsed by a special handler for it, which will error out if something goes wrong 21.41.12 # it just needs to make sure not to allow any tags which have a special handler (2 lines of code in the parse function) 21.41.20 # * JdGordon| tries to remember to do that tonight 21.41.33 # * domonoky shuts up :-) 21.48.08 Quit nimak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.31 Join giLL0r [0] (n=gill0r@78.49.50.202) 21.53.36 Quit pamaury ("abort();") 21.55.11 Join liar [0] (n=liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 21.57.00 Join rhodan_ [0] (n=quassel@113-9.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.57.53 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 22.00.11 Quit Tomis () 22.00.15 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.04.17 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.96.100) 22.14.50 Join Riku [0] (n=Lss@cm23.omega219.maxonline.com.sg) 22.15.14 Nick Riku is now known as Guest94783 (n=Lss@cm23.omega219.maxonline.com.sg) 22.16.05 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 22.20.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.21.38 Quit rhodan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.55 Join petur [0] (n=peter@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.34.51 Quit Lss (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.29 Quit balug ("Ex-Chat") 22.37.20 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.52.00 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 22.52.25 Join maruk [0] (n=lolo@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 22.54.41 Quit Tomis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.56.37 # gevaerts, JdGordon|: Code size won't go up from splitting out functions as long as those functions are made static (and hence inlined at build time if they're called from a single place) 22.57.17 # I'm not worried about code size, I'm more worried about code readbility 22.57.54 # part of the reason to do this is to be able to be able to get the token value for some tags without going through the whole lot 23.04.08 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.08.09 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.3.1-dev") 23.08.17 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 23.11.29 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.15.57 Join nimak_ [0] (n=nima@adsl-75-45-239-174.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 23.23.28 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.96.100) 23.25.19 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@140-156.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 23.30.26 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 23.30.47 Quit nima (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.34.29 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 23.36.58 Join nima [0] (n=nima@75.45.248.58) 23.37.04 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.37.33 # amiconn: is that also true for splitting huge switch cases? 23.39.03 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 23.43.23 Quit hebz0rl (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.43.57 Quit Grahack ("Tu m'as vu ?") 23.44.01 Quit rhodan_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.44.36 # I'm assuming gcc generates a jump table for the switch, which would be efficient since there are almost no gaps between the values. making it multiple smaller would probably make gcc generate something less efficient 23.46.06 Quit froggyman (K-lined) 23.46.08 # arnt jump tables done like a massive block of (if something == 'value1') goto label1; if (something == 'value2') goto label2? 23.46.18 # so the size is pretty constant with the number of cases? 23.46.28 # despite, I dont find that switch unreadable, and I don't think there's much benefit in splitting, except of course if you want to be able to only handle a subset of the cases 23.47.12 # JdGordon|: more like goto base_addres+value*4 23.47.32 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.47.39 # (at the target 23.47.52 # there's another branch to the final location) 23.48.09 # thats even less efficent then 23.48.20 # how? 23.48.36 # hmm.. ok maybe not 23.49.01 Quit nimak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.49.08 # would using the default make that not possible to use? 23.49.44 # it's 2 branches in any event and no hundreds of if's, instead of 1 branch and hundreds ifs 23.50.30 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-11-130.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.50.52 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.51.06 # well, the compiler might need to insert a single special case for the default value, but doesn't really matter 23.53.07 # ok, so if gcc is using smarts then I have no problem splitting that big switch up into logical (and useful) groups 23.53.20 # and hopefully get rid of those terrible macros 23.54.07 # I was arguing that splitting up might make gcc be unable to be smart, but well ;) 23.55.17 # :) 23.55.50 # if its split up properly then even if it does use a massive amount of if's we could still put the more comon tokens at the start so its no perf hit 23.57.49 # isn't get_token_value() called quite a lot? 23.58.12 # like hundreds times per second? 23.58.14 # once per token 23.58.20 Join froggyman| [0] (n=4845cdd1@giant.haxx.se) 23.58.25 # yes... 23.58.30 # thougsands per second easily 23.58.44 # it should be as fast as possible then 23.58.45 # 10FPS * once per token