--- Log for 25.01.110 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 4 hours ago 00.00.48 # DeviceChart says ipod color is pp5020 . c200 is 5022. fuze is an ams target, and i believe is armv4 with some amount of embedded sram, so it might be worth checking 00.03.15 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.21 # I'll probably just test 'em all. Where's the patch and the test file? 00.05.20 # ah, the patch. here it is: http://pastie.org/792799 00.05.37 # test files are here: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/ 00.05.54 # but the patch is only relevant to ape, it does rather a lot of division 00.06.57 # I'll start with ape_normal, and then ape_high. 00.07.07 # I compile with VMs, so it'll take a while. 00.07.38 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=quassel@genkt-050-078.t-mobile.co.uk) 00.07.58 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.07.59 Mode "#rockbox +v robin0800_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.08.23 Quit parafin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.08.55 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 00.09.16 Mode "#rockbox +v parafin " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.11.40 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 00.12.00 Mode "#rockbox +v grndslm " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.12.28 Join darkham [0] (n=darkham@host8-110-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.12.49 Quit grndslm (SendQ exceeded) 00.12.49 Mode "#rockbox +v darkham " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.13.17 Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 00.13.38 Mode "#rockbox +v grndslm " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.21.02 Quit stooo ("Leaving.") 00.31.09 Quit robin0800_ ("No Ping reply in 180 seconds.") 00.31.27 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@genkt-050-078.t-mobile.co.uk) 00.31.47 Mode "#rockbox +v robin0800 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.39.13 Quit dantje (Client Quit) 00.39.16 Join dantje_ [0] (n=dvg@HSI-KBW-095-208-155-207.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 00.39.37 Mode "#rockbox +v dantje_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.39.46 Quit dantje_ (Client Quit) 00.44.24 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 00.45.35 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]") 00.48.39 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.101.211) 00.48.59 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.51.12 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 00.55.40 Quit Strife89 ("See ya.") 00.55.51 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-11-141.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.56.11 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife89 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.17.28 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 01.28.05 Join `Assassin [0] (n=blank@71-8-56-51.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) 01.28.25 Mode "#rockbox +v `Assassin " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.31.22 Quit kugel ("exit(0);") 01.35.44 Join kroktsrka [0] (i=da107b9b@gateway/web/freenode/x-ajlxffcgxnkftowt) 01.36.04 Mode "#rockbox +v kroktsrka " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.36.26 # hello 01.36.29 # I ask because I rockbox 01.36.35 # player not working 01.37.01 # you can help me? 01.37.15 # heeeeellllooo???? 01.37.34 # someone there???? 01.37.45 # need help with player!!! 01.38.00 # friend rockbox installed 01.38.19 # not work more!!! 01.38.41 # what device are you asking about? 01.38.56 # player 01.39.05 Quit Strife89 ("See ya.") 01.39.13 # * TheSeven guesses it's an apple device because he also turned up in #linux4nano 01.39.17 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-11-141.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.39.28 # kroktsrka: is it an ipod nano? 01.39.37 # yes 01.39.37 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife89 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.39.48 # which generation? 01.40.33 # generation? 01.41.12 Join Strife1989 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-14-195.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.41.32 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife1989 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.41.51 # Unhelpful: Well, the iPod isn't performing well on ape_normal at all. 01.42.21 Join Farthen [0] (n=chatzill@e176132081.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.42.42 Mode "#rockbox +v Farthen " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.43.01 # heeeeeeeelllllllpppp!!!!!!!!!!! 01.43.19 # kroktsrka: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Models 01.43.27 # which one is it? 01.44.48 # third 4 GB third generation iPod Nano 4, 8 GB USB (FireWire for charging only) 5 September 2007 Mac: 10.4 01.45.27 # Unhelpful: The iPod is stumbling every 3-4 seconds. The c250 manages to last for 6-8 seconds before having to pause. 01.45.29 # kroktsrka: I'm afraid rockbox doesn't (yet) work on that one 01.45.40 # On the c200, the software backlight becomes dog-slow. 01.46.03 # but friend installed rockbox and now not work more!!!!!! 01.46.36 # kroktsrka: If a friend of yours installed Rockbox, he's using an older iPod. 01.46.38 # Much older. 01.47.07 # not that much older 01.47.36 # have you broke my player!!!!!! 01.47.38 # Unhelpful: Oh, and the c200's battery voltage dropped quite a bit, but that always seems to happen with extra-heavy CPU load. 01.48.05 # wants new!!!!!!! 01.48.54 # you stupid idiote my player does break!!!!!!!!!!! 01.49.02 # kroktsrka: could you please calm down? it doesn't help anyone here. 01.49.06 # kroktsrka, if anyone broke your device, it would be you or your friend, not rockbox. 01.49.10 Quit Strife89 (Nick collision from services.) 01.49.16 # so you have an ipod nano 3rd generation? 01.49.16 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (n=michael@adsl-154-14-195.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.49.23 Quit DataGhost (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.49.35 Quit avacore (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.41 # yes 01.49.45 # what exactly did you or your friend do with it? 01.49.51 # and what does it do now? 01.50.04 # friend installed rockbox!!!! 01.50.13 # now not light any more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 01.50.49 # connect your player to your PC. does itunes see it? 01.50.55 Join avacore [0] (i=nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 01.51.03 # kroktsrka: Please, calm down. We can't help you unless we know exactly what happened. 01.51.15 Mode "#rockbox +v avacore " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.51.41 # Strife89: that kind of fits, per the wiki we need about 120% RT for playback 01.52.01 # * TheSeven already saw ~103% playing back without stuttering 01.52.17 # Unhelpful: I'll be testing on the Fuze in a bit. Would you like me to do anything else with the c250 or the iPod? 01.52.34 # kroktsrka: does itunes ask you to restore your ipod? 01.52.42 # not have itunes!! 01.52.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.53.20 # kroktsrka: Then the first thing you should do is install iTunes. 01.53.42 # Go here. http://www.apple.com/itunes/ 01.53.42 # please download it from: http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ 01.53.50 # friend has itunes and installed rockbox and not work more!!!!!!!!!!! 01.54.17 # kroktsrka: do you have access to your friend's pc now? 01.54.24 # kroktsrka: We need to know *what was done* in the attempt to install Rockbox. 01.54.37 # Simply telling us that it doesn't work won't do any good. 01.55.01 # Strife89: as those devices are unbrickable and have a foolproof recovery procedure, I would rather go the straight-forward way 01.55.24 # TheSeven: Sorry. >.< 01.55.32 # connect with pc itunes but not see 01.56.01 # does the display on the ipod light up when you connect it? 01.56.19 # no light 01.56.53 # did you start itunes? 01.57.04 Quit darkham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.57.07 # itunes on 01.57.11 # but no light 01.57.14 # no see ipod 01.57.19 # you need to close itunes, plug the ipod in and start it again 01.57.30 # you killed my player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 01.57.35 # it should then detect an ipod in recovery mode 01.57.54 # kroktsrka: iPods cannot be killed unless you smash them with a hammer. 01.58.10 # More or less. 01.58.19 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 01.58.36 # if it still doesn't work, press and hold the MENU and middle/center buttons for 10 seconds 01.58.40 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShadow " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.59.04 # and make sure that the hold/lock switch is off 01.59.20 # have no hammer!!!! 02.00.05 # need ask person for hammer? 02.00.37 # kroktsrka: Don't take the hammer thing seriously. 02.00.48 # what do with hammer? 02.00.55 # kroktsrka: What I meant was, iPods are very, very difficult to break. 02.01.03 # kroktsrka: Your iPod CAN be fixed. 02.01.25 # Put the hammer away. 02.01.57 # kroktsrka throw hammer after Strife98 02.02.26 Quit parafin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.02.28 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.02.30 # stupid idioto kill my player!!!! 02.02.48 Mode "#rockbox +v froggyman " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.03.13 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 02.03.26 # please, PLEASE, calm down, and do what i said 02.03.33 Mode "#rockbox +v parafin " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.03.50 # make sure that the hold/lock switch is off 02.03.54 # press and hold the MENU and middle/center buttons for 10 seconds 02.04.09 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-pzcpdpbchdgkruer) 02.04.29 # if itunes doesn't ask to restore your ipod, disconnect it, close itunes, connect it, and start itunes 02.04.29 Mode "#rockbox +v saratoga " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.04.47 # not work, idioto! 02.04.58 # no light 02.04.59 # no see 02.05.09 # YOU IDIOTO KILL MY PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02.05.33 Mode "#rockbox +o saratoga " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.05.43 # or ask your friend to restore it 02.05.59 # if he managed to try to install rockbox on it, he will be able to restore it 02.06.28 # friend want not restore player!!!!!!! 02.06.35 # if you want help I suggest not insulting the people who want to help you and listen to them and concentrating on doing what they say 02.08.12 Mode "#rockbox +b %kroktsrka!*@* " by saratoga (i=9803c6dd@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 02.08.12 Warn Banlist contains 19 bans! 02.08.24 # Hang on, saratoga. 02.08.42 # just tell him what to do now 02.09.04 # kroktsrka: Please listen. We're trying to help you fix the problem. If you insult us, then you're only making things worse. 02.09.30 # kroktsrka: If you follow our instructions carefully, we CAN and WILL fix your iPod. 02.09.32 # how do I deop now? 02.09.46 # /deop saratoga 02.09.51 Join GeekShado_ [0] (i=Antoine@78.251.82.126) 02.09.58 # /mode -o saratoga 02.10.03 Mode "#rockbox -o saratoga " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.10.07 # ah that easy 02.10.11 # kroktsrka: Please, just calm down, and let's try again. 02.10.12 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShado_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.11.25 # kroktsrka: Begin by starting iTunes on your computer. You have to download and install iTunes first; just going to the website won't do anything. 02.12.08 # kroktsrka: Once you do that, press and hold the Menu and the center buttons on the iPod until you see the apple on the screen. 02.12.49 Quit GeekShado_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.12.55 # kroktsrka: When you see the apple, QUICKLY stop pressing the Menu button and hold down the center and Play buttons instead. 02.13.05 Join GeekShado_ [0] (i=Antoine@78.251.82.126) 02.13.25 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShado_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.13.32 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 02.13.53 Mode "#rockbox +v phanboy4 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.15.02 # kroktsrka: If you get that far, plug the iPod into the computer. 02.17.26 # hm, unmute? 02.17.38 # sure if you want 02.17.42 Mode "#rockbox +o TheSeven " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.17.58 Mode "#rockbox -b %kroktsrka!*@* " by TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 02.18.08 Mode "#rockbox -o TheSeven " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.18.14 # hold buttons minuto and not see apple light 02.18.30 # kroktsrka: Then the battery might simply be dead. 02.18.39 # Plug the iPod in and see what happens. 02.19.01 # If the battery's dead, then it simply needs charging. 02.19.09 # connected 1000 times not helping 02.19.11 # no light 02.19.28 # Leave the iPod plugged in for a bit. 02.19.40 # pluged? 02.19.51 # connect it and wait for 5 minutes 02.19.55 # kroktsrka: Yes, connected to the cable. 02.20.00 # then try again 02.20.05 Quit saratoga ("Page closed") 02.20.08 # kroktsrka: Leave it that way for five to ten minutes. 02.20.12 # connected 30 minutes no light 02.20.34 # kroktsrka: Then plug the end that goes into the computer into another USB port. 02.20.37 # (they usually come up after <30 sec even with a totally dead battery) 02.21.44 # and now????? 02.22.06 # close itunes and start it again 02.22.28 # kroktsrka: Has the iPod responded at all? 02.22.37 # noooo 02.22.42 # Hmmmm. 02.22.47 # no light, no see pc, no player 02.23.02 # kroktsrka: Are you plugging the iPod's cable into the front or the back of the computer. 02.23.04 # ? 02.23.04 # and as this isnt really rockbox-related anymore, may i suggest this be moved to #rockbox-community? 02.23.35 # scorche: Agreed. 02.23.56 # kroktsrka: Please type "/join #rockbox-community". 02.24.07 # Without the quotes. 02.24.34 # no have usb front computer 02.25.21 # scorche is related to rockbox!!!!!! 02.25.25 # Which iPod? 02.25.26 # kroktsrka: So you can only plug the iPod into the back of the computer, correct? 02.25.41 # YOU ROCKBOX IDIOTO KILL MY PLAYER!!!!!!!!! AND NOT HELP ME REPAIR PLAYER!!! 02.25.41 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.25.55 # yes back of computer 02.26.04 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 02.26.07 # kroktsrka: I am trying my hardest to help you. Please do not call us idiots. 02.26.15 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.26.20 # kroktsrka: it isnt...you said you have a 3rd generation ipod which rockbox does not run on....if you wish further help with your issue please calm down and discuss the matter in #rockbox-community which is our off-topic channel 02.26.35 Mode "#rockbox +v FOAD_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.26.38 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 02.26.39 # kroktsrka: I understand. Try plugging the cable into a different USB port. 02.26.47 Quit froggyman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.26.53 # Strife89: you too ;) 02.26.58 Mode "#rockbox +v parafin " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.27.00 # connect all ports tried! 02.27.26 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.27.46 Mode "#rockbox +v froggyman " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.28.01 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.29.08 Quit parafin (Client Quit) 02.30.04 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 02.30.24 Mode "#rockbox +v parafin " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.30.42 # Unhelpful: "View buffering thread" shows the clock at ~160MHz for a good bit, on ape_high. 02.31.09 # It's dropped to 140 MHz. 02.31.13 # this is where test_codec would be nice-to-have :) 02.31.47 # Unhelpful: I'll build with test_codec if you want, but I've got homework to do..... :/ 02.31.59 # Strife89: don't worry about it. :) 02.32.09 # it works, that's good to know. :) 02.32.37 # Unhelpful: :) 02.32.55 # i think what i need to do is build ape twice, as we do with overlay plugins... once with all the code for the LUT divider, but the table empty, and then again with the table the size of the free iram 02.33.02 # Incidentally, do you know what song the test file is? I like it. :) 02.34.44 # i do not, sorry. 02.35.02 # Meh, 'tis fine. :) 02.35.17 # * Strife89 considers "Shake It to the Beat". 02.38.17 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.38.18 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.39.29 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 02.57.00 Join Spacegh [0] (n=Usuario@r190-64-9-15.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 02.57.14 Join Spaceghost [0] (i=irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) 02.57.21 Mode "#rockbox +v Spacegh " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.57.28 Part Spacegh 02.57.35 Mode "#rockbox +v Spaceghost " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.57.35 Part Spaceghost ("Leaving") 02.57.48 Join perfectdrug [0] (n=5b0ef0b8@giant.haxx.se) 02.58.08 Mode "#rockbox +v perfectdrug " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.58.36 # m4a is a container right the codec is aac? does rockbox support m4a, I just got questioned this 02.59.11 Quit GeekShado_ (Client Quit) 02.59.55 # perfectdrug: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SoundCodecs#Current_status 03.05.20 # Strife89: yeah I looked at this page, and couldn't find m4a mentioned, hence my question about the container as I'm not sure about this. And also not if rockbox handles m4a and just plays the from me assumed aac 03.05.57 # perfectdrug: If I recall correctly, I've played tracks with the extension of .m4a before. 03.06.06 # I can make no garuntees. 03.06.07 # ok thank you 03.06.25 # If you try and it doesn't work, no harm done. :) 03.06.47 # It'll just ignore or skip over any tracks that it can't play. 03.07.06 # Usually, at least. 03.11.24 Quit perfectdrug ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.26.47 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.28.32 Quit Oxymis (Remote closed the connection) 03.34.09 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.34.29 Mode "#rockbox +v JdGordon " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.52.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.17 Quit kroktsrka (Excess Flood) 03.58.25 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 03.58.27 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*da107b9b@* " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.58.27 Warn Banlist contains 19 bans! 03.59.57 Quit Tomis () 04.03.12 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f756cb8.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.03.32 Mode "#rockbox +v Barahir_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.04.04 Part froggyman 04.05.24 Quit Barahir (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.05.59 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.101.211) 04.06.20 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.08.03 Quit panni__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.08.31 Join panni_ [0] (i=Rush@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 04.08.52 Mode "#rockbox +v panni_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.09.09 Join Kitr88 [0] (n=Kitr88@BSN-182-67-184.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 04.09.29 Mode "#rockbox +v Kitr88 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.13.54 Join Strife89DS [0] (n=nds@adsl-154-14-195.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.14.14 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife89DS " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.15.11 Quit Kitar|st (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.15.18 Quit Strife89 ("Closing the lappy.") 04.19.45 Join Kitar|st [0] (i=Kitr88@BSN-182-100-49.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 04.20.05 Mode "#rockbox +v Kitar|st " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.28.38 Quit panni_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.46 Quit Kitr88 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.32.03 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 04.35.30 Quit togetic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.38.05 Join dys` [0] (n=andreas@krlh-5f736bbc.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.38.25 Mode "#rockbox +v dys` " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.40.11 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.42.20 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-14-195.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.42.40 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife89 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.46.01 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.46.13 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.46.25 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.46.33 Mode "#rockbox +v TheSeven " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.48.09 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 04.48.29 Mode "#rockbox +v n17ikh " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.49.37 Quit dys (Connection timed out) 04.56.43 Quit Strife89DS ("ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS") 04.57.24 Quit bzed (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.59.12 Quit Strife89 ("Bed.") 05.02.42 Join kaniini [0] (n=kaniini6@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 05.03.03 Mode "#rockbox +v kaniini " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.09.58 Join bzed [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 05.10.19 Mode "#rockbox +v bzed " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.14.47 # anyone around that cares about how themes work? 05.21.48 # depends...what's the proposed change? 05.23.12 # regarding the themes that is. 05.23.13 Quit Horschti ("Verlassend") 05.24.59 # which of the 2 options in http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive//rockbox-dev-archive-2010-01/0037.shtml should we do? 05.25.07 # stay with svn? or make it logical? 05.25.31 # one minute...need to do some reading. 05.26.42 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133108225.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 05.27.03 Mode "#rockbox +v teru " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.29.51 # people will always debate on what it *logical*, and as well as that, they will always bitch if something gets suddenly and obviously changed. 05.29.57 # it's a tricky one. 05.30.23 # I can see merits in both options. 05.30.43 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.31.54 # * S_a_i_n_t doesn't use .sbs OR ui viewport settings atm... 05.32.30 # I'd prefer "no %X means use the setting ". 05.33.54 # thats how current svn works, but %X|-| does make more sense.. sort of 05.34.05 # less change is better though 05.34.47 # it wouldn't break existing themes would it? 05.35.14 # and yes, less change is better from a 'why is it this way, and not this way' point of view. 05.35.16 # no, which is why its probably better 05.36.16 # you'll get criticism either way...but as a rule, I do believe in less change is better. Unless of course the existing method is just plain stupid. 05.43.12 # how will ui viewport setting be handled? I think it would be better to handle them in a same way if possible. 05.43.43 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 05.44.03 Mode "#rockbox +v togetic " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.45.00 # ui vp setting is totally ignored unless a sbs is loaded 05.47.34 Join mscoolnerd [0] (n=4b21cc19@giant.haxx.se) 05.47.39 Quit mscoolnerd (Client Quit) 05.52.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.57.32 Quit `Assassin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.57.46 Join `Assassin [0] (n=blank@71-8-56-51.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) 05.58.06 Mode "#rockbox +v `Assassin " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.58.28 # why is "open with" in the wps context menu? 05.59.35 # why not? 05.59.51 # I can't think of a use for it. 05.59.54 # oh, its because you can use it with vbrfix and a few other plugins 06.00.10 # Ah... 06.00.36 # so it'd be pretty safe to give it the boot with no ill effect if you didn't use those plugins? 06.00.58 # yeah 06.01.09 # 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hmm... shouldnt adding a #include "file.h" guarentee that the file will be recompiled if file.h changes? 08.48.04 # can #define's get in the way of that? 08.48.42 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.48.42 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.49.02 Mode "#rockbox +v einhirn " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.49.21 # JdGordon: that's the idea, yes. where does it go wrong? 08.49.41 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.49.53 # skin_buffer.c isnt being recompiled when I modify skin_engine.h (I added that #include locally) 08.50.37 # you need to recreate dependencies when you add an #include 08.51.23 # oh right... duh! :) 08.51.30 # * JdGordon slaps forehead 08.55.31 Quit fyrestorm ("Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!") 09.01.28 # * JdGordon is thinking about upping the skin buffer size to enough for 2 full screens of colour bmp's and enough for 1 backdrop per skinnable screen 09.02.21 # 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How do I get svn to simply report the current revision without updating/reverting etc. ? 14.40.15 # svnversion 14.40.21 # thanks 14.42.10 # if it comes back as 2****M, that just means it's not a clean svn checkout..yes? 14.42.18 # yes, M for modified 14.42.20 # * S_a_i_n_t assumes M=Modified 14.42.27 # ah, thanks. 14.55.33 Quit yosafbridge (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.56.21 Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@adsl-71-142-225-118.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 14.56.42 Mode "#rockbox +v yosafbridge " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 14.57.25 Join goebish [0] (n=g@mac33-2-82-225-98-231.fbx.proxad.net) 14.57.46 Mode "#rockbox +v goebish " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 14.57.46 Quit goebish (Client Quit) 15.12.57 Join froggymana [0] (n=187b533e@giant.haxx.se) 15.13.18 Mode "#rockbox +v froggymana " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.17.46 Join antil33t1 [0] (n=Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 15.17.52 Quit antil33t (Nick collision from services.) 15.18.07 Mode "#rockbox +v antil33t1 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.18.25 Quit antil33t1 (Client Quit) 15.18.35 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 15.18.55 Mode "#rockbox +v antil33t " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.20.28 Quit antil33t (Client Quit) 15.22.13 Part teru ("Leaving...") 15.25.10 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 15.25.31 Mode "#rockbox +v antil33t " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.26.24 Join evilnick_ [0] (n=evilnick@ool-457288ab.dyn.optonline.net) 15.26.45 Mode "#rockbox +v evilnick_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.36.41 Join evilnick__ [0] (i=0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.37.02 Mode "#rockbox +v evilnick__ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.39.27 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 15.39.48 Mode "#rockbox +v bmbl " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.42.29 Part LinusN 15.43.21 Quit evilnick (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.44.03 Join assembler [0] (n=6d43857e@giant.haxx.se) 15.44.24 Mode "#rockbox +v assembler " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.44.39 # hello? 15.44.46 # hi ^^ 15.44.47 # hi 15.45.03 # are you a rockbox developer? 15.45.14 # eny rockbox developers here? 15.45.34 # probably quite a few :D 15.45.35 # assembler: if you have a question, please just ask it 15.45.47 # ok 15.46.06 # can enyone please explain me how weak is the fuzes processor? 15.46.15 # i mean im quite surprised... 15.48.06 # assembler: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS 15.48.07 # assembler: I am not an expert, but I believe it is above the median when compared to other devices Rockbox supports 15.48.14 # you could start there... 15.49.53 # assembler: are you having an issue with it you want to discuss? 15.52.57 # justa wondering if i can add a crsor 15.53.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.53.15 # a cursor? 15.53.21 Quit froggymana ("CGI:IRC") 15.57.13 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.02.14 Part Bagder 16.03.51 # im back 16.03.56 # i learning C 16.04.06 # so i was wondering 16.04.18 # Why would you want to add a cursor to rockbox? 16.04.23 # if i can make a pocket PC out of my new rockboxed fuze 16.04.38 # because its cool... 16.04.47 # i want to make it look like windows 3.1 16.04.54 # I suggest doing something simpler while learning C 16.05.10 # can you explain what? 16.05.16 # il learn C in eny case 16.05.21 # i wana be a programmer 16.05.35 # but simplifying it will be a great deal... 16.06.38 # what you want to do is certainly possible, but means an extensive rewrite of the rockbox gui code. it would take many weeks even for an experienced programmer. 16.06.57 # do something simpler 16.07.11 # well i do it for fun... 16.07.24 # and you want to spend six months on it? 16.07.31 # i like to program and i will be really happy if il make it :) 16.07.34 # why not? 16.07.40 # have fun 16.07.54 # it will make rockbox a lot more popular... 16.08.00 # think of it 16.08.02 # eh, no 16.08.11 # a pocket windows 3.1 16.08.23 # that sounds like a dap i don't want to use 16.08.33 # it eats evry ipod nano 16.08.44 # ? 16.08.44 # an *imatation* windows 3.1 16.08.52 # errrrrr...usefull 16.08.53 # :P 16.09.05 # i mean only the design... 16.09.14 # you will be able all you could 16.09.16 # and more 16.09.28 # what do you mean by "it eats evry ipod nano"? 16.09.36 # such as an advanced on-screen keyboard 16.09.42 # * S_a_i_n_t has 5 RB'd Nano's now... 16.09.44 # it is a lot better 16.09.48 # none of them 'eaten' 16.10.19 # u can have as much ipods as you like... 16.10.26 # assembler: you do know that ipods don't have a mouse, don't you? 16.10.29 # i wana be a pro programmer 16.10.37 # i know that... 16.11.34 # assembler: please don't privmsg me 16.11.50 # wel g2g 16.11.57 Quit assembler ("CGI:IRC") 16.12.05 # assembler: the people trying to help you are simply suggesting that if you don't have a reasonable understanding of C, that this would be quite difficult to achieve and there are much easier things to attempt asa first project. 16.12.20 # * Zagor feels trolled 16.12.41 # * S_a_i_n_t wasted a good sentence. 16.12.59 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.14.52 # * S_a_i_n_t sincerely doubts a Win 3.1 based GUI would make RB any more popular... 16.17.50 # S_a_i_n_t: well there are quite a lot of people who actually *liked* the WinCE user interface. 16.17.58 # and continued to buy WinCE palmtops for many year s:) 16.18.17 Join Barahir [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f756cb8.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.18.38 Mode "#rockbox +v Barahir " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.28.46 Join liar [0] (n=liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 16.29.07 Mode "#rockbox +v liar " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.31.12 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 16.31.33 Mode "#rockbox +v funman " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.33.00 # hi, i've benched my clip with fs#9332 (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/619/clipm.png) , now recharging for running the bench without the patch 16.34.29 Quit antil33t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.34.35 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 16.34.56 Mode "#rockbox +v antil33t " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.35.47 Nick evilnick__ is now known as evilnick (i=0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.38.46 Quit kaniini ("BRB! IRL!") 16.40.43 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-169.nc.res.rr.com) 16.41.04 Mode "#rockbox +v jgarvey " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.41.45 Quit kloeri (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.42.11 Quit sinuc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.42.26 Join sinuc [0] (n=sinuc@apokryph.org) 16.42.46 Mode "#rockbox +v sinuc " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.44.44 Quit jho (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.45.58 Join jho [0] (n=jh@unaffiliated/cene) 16.46.19 Mode "#rockbox +v jho " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.46.41 Join kloeri [0] (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) 16.47.02 Mode "#rockbox +v kloeri " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.51.14 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@12.169.218.14) 16.51.35 Mode "#rockbox +v toffe82 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.53.02 # Why do we now have a wiki page devoted to a troll? 16.53.17 # Is it just me who thinks that this isn't suitable for the wiki? 16.53.37 # AlexP: it's not just you 16.53.52 # So can we remove it? 16.54.18 # It a) isn't funny b) crowds an already full wiki with pointless stuff and c) "rewards" trolls 16.54.25 # AlexP: which page ? GoldenQuotes ? 16.54.40 # funman: No, it has its own page 16.54.43 # I see it 16.54.54 # I think it sets a bad precedent too 16.55.10 # B4gder, Zagor: What do you think? 16.55.20 # go for it 16.55.26 # I don't think I can 16.55.35 # It needs an admin I suspect 16.55.48 # I already expressed my dislike in -community 16.56.12 # So let's just delete it :) 16.58.42 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-24-90-81-175.nyc.res.rr.com) 16.59.02 Mode "#rockbox +v fyrestorm " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.59.43 Quit linuxguy3 (Remote closed the connection) 16.59.53 Join linuxguy3 [0] (n=timj@adsl-76-203-23-66.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 17.00.14 Mode "#rockbox +v linuxguy3 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.01.17 # I removed all the content 17.05.30 Quit krazykit ("rebooting") 17.06.12 # AlexP: Thanks for removing that 17.06.47 # I only deleted the content, I don't think normal users can delete topics - I think you need an admin for that 17.06.53 # Although I didn't try to delete it 17.08.13 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@70.236.69.180) 17.08.34 Mode "#rockbox +v krazykit " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.09.20 Quit kloeri (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.11.23 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 17.28.45 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@ALyon-551-1-19-164.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.29.05 Mode "#rockbox +v pamaury " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.29.38 Join krazykit` [0] (n=kkit@70.236.69.180) 17.29.47 Quit krazykit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.29.59 Mode "#rockbox +v krazykit` " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.30.46 Join Assembler [0] (n=c0756166@giant.haxx.se) 17.31.07 Mode "#rockbox +v Assembler " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.31.17 # hello? 17.31.25 # !!! 17.31.33 # hello Assembler 17.31.53 # IDENTIFY 17.32.51 # hello 17.32.56 # im back 17.33.05 # lagg 17.33.28 # Assembler: please be concise, it's a free chatting channel, come on #rockbox-community if you want to chat 17.33.36 # how to speed up that 17.33.57 Nick krazykit` is now known as krazykit (n=kkit@70.236.69.180) 17.35.32 # so here is my question: can someone tell me the exact maximum speed of the fuze's processor? 17.36.00 # i need to know i to start my project... 17.36.22 # 250MHz, read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS and especially the AS3525 datasheet (you were told that already) 17.36.24 # funman: +not? 17.36.44 # TheSeven: right, it's _not_ a free chatting channel 17.36.50 # neverming 17.36.54 # justa answer me 17.37.11 # Assembler: he already did. twice. 17.37.29 # i didnt found enything... 17.37.44 # and WOW! 17.37.54 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ciywixoqljhrjcak) 17.37.58 # its not that slow.... 17.38.15 Mode "#rockbox +v saratoga " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.38.26 Join bimbel [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.38.37 # i know its cuz of a lag what i type arrive late 17.38.44 # saratoga: i got ~5h30 runtime on my clip with fs#9332, now running without the patch 17.38.47 Mode "#rockbox +v bimbel " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.39.08 # its faster that an ipod! 17.39.56 Quit bmbl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.43.05 Join kloeri [0] (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) 17.43.26 Mode "#rockbox +v kloeri " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 17.44.24 Quit Assembler ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.53.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.54.01 Join Kitr88 [0] (i=Kitr88@BSN-182-93-5.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 17.54.22 Mode "#rockbox +v Kitr88 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.02.57 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.03.18 Mode "#rockbox +v domonoky " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.04.28 Quit Kitar|st (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.04.57 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.38.53 Join togetic [0] (n=togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 18.39.14 Mode "#rockbox +v togetic " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.42.39 Join JdGordon1 [0] (n=jonno@68-29-232-135.pools.spcsdns.net) 18.43.00 Mode "#rockbox +v JdGordon1 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.44.25 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.44.45 Mode "#rockbox +v bertrik " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.45.12 # Unhelpful: ping 18.54.14 Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@s080b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.54.35 Mode "#rockbox +v thegeek " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.55.21 # TheSeven, maybe meizu_dfu opens the files as text instead of binary on windows? 18.55.35 # oh, good point! 18.56.07 # although I'd expect it to choke on 0x0a then, not 0x1a 18.56.20 # I don't know what 0x1a could be 18.56.31 # (escape is 0x1b) 18.56.46 # it's SUB 18.57.05 # but anyway, I think it's worth checking 18.57.08 # whatever a SUB is 18.57.18 # substitute 18.57.32 # haha. and what does s "substitute" char do? 18.57.48 # well, the behavior it shows is sending the first block over and over again 18.57.55 # substitute things? 18.58.02 # i can't see how opening/reading the file the wrong way could cause that 18.58.04 # which is apparently what it does :) 18.58.06 # what kind of things? 18.58.21 # * gevaerts didn't write the ASCII spec! 18.58.31 # init_img which reads images uses fd = open(filename, O_RDONLY) 18.58.45 Quit Oxymis ("No Ping reply in 180 seconds.") 18.59.05 # so yes, there is a O_BINARY missing 18.59.05 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 18.59.26 Mode "#rockbox +v Oxymis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.59.29 # or whatever that is colled 18.59.35 # called* 18.59.52 # but I still can't see how that could make the first 2K block repeat over and over 19.02.47 # Can you add O_BINARY and see if that indeed fixes it? 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amiconn: yes? 19.45.05 Quit Farthen (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.45.14 Join Jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@p5DDC7B58.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.45.34 Mode "#rockbox +v Jaykay " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 19.47.16 # Unhelpful: Is there a reason for the weird table sizes in your patch? 19.47.42 # Also, what happened to the newton-raphson idea? 19.47.46 # amiconn: they're the largest that would fit, minus a bit of extra space in case of binsize fluctuation 19.48.38 # PP5002 and PP5020 both have 96KB IRAM, half of which are usable in plugins/codecs 19.48.54 # PP5022 has 128KB IRAM, and iirc 80KB can be used in codecs 19.49.07 # Yet PP5020 has the largest table... 19.49.59 # amiconn: i built with a tiny table and looked at how much space was left. i was surprised to find so much room left on pp5020, is there some static iram allocation in ape that isn't in iram on pp5020? 19.50.20 # or maybe i wasn't really test-building on a proper pp5020 target? 19.51.43 # i used ipod 4g grayscale to test for that case 19.53.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.53.58 # Ah, hmm 19.54.19 # and the newton-raphson divider works just fine, though i doubt it could do well on armv4. i've been tuning signed and unsigned dividers for armv4, armv5e, and armv6 for a bit and have one for each that should be a decent replacement for the libgcc functions. the only thing i think is questionable about it is whether we ought to replace the divider on armv4, since it's faster but a good deal larger due to the unrolled loop 19.54.22 # PP5002 has much less room left for those table because it has a lot of code in IRAM that is in DRAM on PP502x 19.54.56 # And PP5022 has less room than expected because the "insane" filter buffer is in IRAM 19.55.16 # You could change that - "insane" won't become realtime on anything PP anyway... 19.55.48 # the n-r divider is smaller than the libgcc divider, even with the LUT it uses to produce an initial estimate 19.55.59 # I only put it there because there wasn't anything better to put there so far 19.56.23 # the distribution of divisors is *very* heavily weighted toward large values 19.57.39 # 1-255 would cover 20% of cases. 1472 entries covers about 48%, while 5952 still only gets up to 56% 19.58.21 # You probably mean small values? 19.58.32 # i do mean small :/ 19.59.05 # Actually that's something one should expect when dealing with range coding. The goal is to get things smaller 19.59.12 # * amiconn didn't think about this before 20.00.21 # i thought about using a caching scheme and calculating reciprocals at first, but since the distribution has such a large spike in it and seems to be pretty much static, a static table is likely to be faster 20.02.04 # Did you try to special-case 2^n divisors again? 20.02.49 # i only special-cased 2 and 1, as they're below the lowest value in the table. i can try doing that again, though, and moving that and the zero test before the LUT 20.03.44 # The lookup thingy probably works well for ape, but not so well as a generic replacement, imo 20.05.00 # the generic dividers don't use it - the N-R divider has a very small LUT for initial estimates, but needs to further estimate the correct reciprocal from there 20.05.14 # but its LUT won't murder the cache if it's not in iram ;) 20.05.35 # If you remove the insane buffer from iram on PP5022, you can extend the table by 8704 entries 20.06.11 # a further 8704? 20.07.16 # yep 20.07.40 # That's the size of the insane buffer - 34816 bytes 20.08.33 # You'll approximately halve the performance for -c5000. I don't think that would be a problem... 20.08.40 Part stooo 20.09.13 # so about 14K entries? 20.09.52 # 14144 is a valid arm immediate, too ;D 20.10.26 # that would cover about 61-62% of divisions on flac normal 20.11.01 # flac? 20.11.14 # ape. i'm quite tired. ;) 20.11.43 # makes me glad i tested the recip+1 logic up to 16K entries though :) 20.18.00 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.18.21 Mode "#rockbox +v linuxstb " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.24.42 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 20.25.51 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.100.169) 20.26.12 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis2 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.27.58 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 20.28.01 Join pixelma_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.28.04 Quit Oxymis ("No Ping reply in 180 seconds.") 20.28.07 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 20.28.08 Join amiconn_ [0] (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.28.18 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.28.21 Mode "#rockbox +v pixelma " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.28.24 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.237.214) 20.28.28 Join Oxymis [0] (n=quassel@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 20.28.28 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (i=quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.28.29 Mode "#rockbox +v amiconn " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.28.45 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife89 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.28.48 Mode "#rockbox +v Oxymis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.29.04 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 20.29.25 Mode "#rockbox +v AndyIL " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.38.36 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.38.57 Mode "#rockbox +v petur " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.39.16 Quit Tomis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.39.16 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.100.169) 20.40.24 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.41.25 Quit Tomis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.43.18 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.86.143) 20.43.39 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.47.59 Quit S_a_i_n_t ("S_a_i_n_t [St.]™") 20.50.17 Quit Jaykay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.52.24 Quit jfc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.53.41 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.53.42 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 20.54.01 Mode "#rockbox +v Horscht " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.54.03 Mode "#rockbox +v robin0800 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.55.42 Join panni_ [0] (i=hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 20.56.03 Mode "#rockbox +v panni_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.56.32 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.56.44 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 20.56.53 Mode "#rockbox +v FOAD_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.57.23 # Do you think the dircache bug I found should be fixed before freeze or not ? Given the use of dircache, it's useless to say that any change could have lots of (difficult to measure) effects or subtle bugs. 20.57.46 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@99-32-77-163.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 20.58.07 Mode "#rockbox +v Llorean " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.58.10 # * gevaerts can't remember the details of said bug 20.59.17 # You can "open" a directory and the underlying system will in reality open the first file within the directory 20.59.51 # ah yes 21.00.25 # Is there a way to trigger that for a normal user? 21.01.52 # Not sure, that's why I'm not really for bugfixing it before freeze with a risk of introducing other bugs. "open"ing a directory is not something you normally do. Except perhaps with a plugin and context menu ? 21.02.36 # Hum, no it's not even possible that way, so I think it's really difficult to trigger it without coding. 21.02.48 # * JdGordon| points out that any bugfix is inherintly giong to have the probability of making the build more unstable, which means doing bugfixes during freeze week is just as silly as adding new featuresa 21.03.06 # I vote to fix it just after the release 21.03.49 # that makes more sense 21.04.04 # ok, agree 21.06.30 # when do we branch for the release? midnight? 21.06.49 Join luchalibre383 [0] (n=d82d42e4@giant.haxx.se) 21.07.10 Mode "#rockbox +v luchalibre383 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.07.23 Quit luchalibre383 (Client Quit) 21.07.36 # I'd say about 7 days after AlexP's email, so Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:26:09 +0100 according to my mailbox 21.07.46 # or around 24 hours from now 21.07.48 # it doesnt need to be precise... 21.07.49 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 21.07.57 # not really, no 21.08.10 Mode "#rockbox +v jfc " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.08.21 # once we branch we are good to go for non bug fies again? 21.08.25 Quit kaniini (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.08.33 Join kaniini [0] (n=kaniini6@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 21.08.54 Mode "#rockbox +v kaniini " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.08.56 Quit Tomis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.08.58 # yeah i mostly just want to commit and close some FS tasks 21.09.33 # yes, although I still wouldn't do really intrusive things yet. Things like the target rename, or the move from config-* to config/* 21.10.02 # i'm waiting for the branch to do it 21.10.05 # we want to make it possible to easily merge bugfixes in both directions until the actual release if at all possible :) 21.10.28 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.85.75) 21.10.48 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.10.57 # amiconn: what do you think about rebuild udiv32_armv4 and then relinking the ape codec after an initial build to determine available table space? 21.12.57 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.12.58 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.17.24 # windows is incredibly crappy when it comes to usb devices. It seems that FS#10809 ( Sansa E200 won't correctly connect mass storage with HID enabled ) also applies to my virtualized XP SP3, was someone else able to reproduce it/investigate it ? 21.18.13 # good! You can debug this :) 21.19.16 # is it xp only? 21.19.28 # hm, could we detect in some way that this sort of thing is going on? 21.19.51 # JdGordon|: I doubt it. There's a report about win2k also not liking our MSC+HID 21.20.10 # you're going the wrong direction 21.20.15 # is it vista or win7? 21.21.31 # I don't think I've heard that, but this is one of those vague problems 21.22.15 # its XP SP3 21.23.51 # Ok, I'll try to find what went wrong. What is strange is that I uninstall it, then I wait for more than one minute (yes Windows needs one minute to enumerate two interfaces !) and detect everything but say "this device won't start" 21.24.14 # pamaury: maybe it's related to FS#10319 ? 21.24.42 # VMs are going to have higher USB latency, so this could influence things 21.25.16 # well, if MS stopped supporting xp and 2k, then I reall cant see why we shold put much effort into it either 21.25.46 # because people use it and because something doesn't work it in rockbox perhaps 21.26.00 # JdGordon|: depends on how hard it is to keep supporting them 21.26.13 # gevaerts: Don't know. I'm not sure it has an influence because the usb latency is probably enforced at hardware level so when a linux driver is used to simulate a host, this latency problem should be nonexistent 21.27.03 # pamaury: a logf build with logf enabled for firmware/target/arm/usb-drv-arc.c should be enough to check this 21.27.35 # Yes, it will enable log for usb-core, storage and drv-arc 21.27.38 # * I 21.28.03 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 21.29.22 # in my casual use i haven't noticed any issues with vista and msc+hid on the 200v1 21.29.59 # but XP works fine for me too so maybe i'm just not doing it right to see bugs 21.30.24 # TheSeven: doesnt that sound similar to the nano2g usb issues? 21.31.36 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 21.31.57 Mode "#rockbox +v HBK " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.32.55 # I never had usb problems with my real XP but with my virtual XP, it seems to fail (whereas it does not with MTP+HID iirc) 21.33.59 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@gate-20.spsu.edu) 21.34.19 Mode "#rockbox +v phanboy4 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.36.54 # liar: yes, possibly 21.37.01 # but only one of them 21.37.16 # yep 21.37.16 # or maybe both nano2g bugs stem from the same root cause? 21.38.05 # the hid is somehow messing up enumeration (on some devices), and even if it's up and running, HID and MSC traffic at the same time will kill something 21.39.28 Join krazykit` [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-131-54.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 21.39.49 Mode "#rockbox +v krazykit` " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.41.32 # TheSeven: last week-end, I have help someone with a nano2g by telling him to disable usb HID. This have fixed his usb transfert problem. 21.41.35 # I'm wondering why Windows ask the hid desc four times 21.42.42 Join froggyman [0] (n=sopgenor@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.43.02 Mode "#rockbox +v froggyman " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.44.13 # JdGordon|: FS#10809 happens with Win7RC also 21.46.27 # pamaury: if you're testing now, one thing to try is to change "REG_ENDPTPRIME |= mask" to "REG_ENDPTPRIME = mask" 21.46.44 # What is this supposed to change ? 21.47.42 # less reads on that register. From my reading of the datasheet, only one bit can ever be 1 at a time, so the or-ing isn't needed, and the linux driver doesn't or 21.48.16 # the linux driver also doesn't wait for the prime to be complete... 21.49.02 Part watto 21.49.19 # Ok, I'll try this now 21.49.56 # * pamaury thinks he could then try with simulator usb :) 21.50.58 # It would be funny: a virtual device with a virtual host, the whole thing using not less than four different drivers on three different OSes to work ;) 21.53.17 Quit krazykit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.54.18 # * gevaerts is confused by this driver 21.56.41 # gevaerts: I don't know if it's by chance or not but with "REG_ENDPTPRIME = mask", UMS works whereas HID doesn't. Though I need to uninstall and reinstall it to obtain this result 21.57.28 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 21.57.49 Mode "#rockbox +v efyx_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 21.58.32 # gevaerts: I unplug it and replug it and now nothing works anymore. I'm sure it's windows messing up because hid doesn't work 21.58.41 # great 21.59.38 # I'm reverting to initial code to check whether this is chance or not 22.01.11 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.53 # pamaury, sometimes it helps to remove an USB entry from the registry, so windows does a full detection of a USB device again 22.02.01 # pamaury: if you feel destructive, remove use 22.02.21 # "REG_ENDPTPRIME = mask" and remove everything after it up to restore_irq() 22.02.42 # of course leave the restore_irq() in place :) 22.03.19 # the linux driver doesn't do any of that 22.03.27 # I used the hardware manager to do a full detection and UMS works with "=" and "|=" finally. But when I unplug and plug again, it doesn't. 22.03.36 # gevaerts: I'll try in a minute 22.06.27 # It doesn't seem to make a different at first thought but I'm doing a full detection 22.08.13 # gevaerts: same result, no difference 22.10.57 # I'm trying with simulator usb 22.11.00 # ... 22.11.23 Quit rhodan_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.11.28 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.11.38 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@81.62.66.238) 22.11.59 Mode "#rockbox +v rhodan " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.14.32 # Unhelpful: Too complicated imo 22.16.32 # Hum, doesn't work, the press 'u' for usb plug thing is not adapted here because VirtualBox does the plug/unplug. Back to real device 22.17.06 Quit Strife89 ("See ya.") 22.17.33 # so fix virtualbox! :D 22.18.58 # :) I don't exactly know how virtualbox handles usb devices, it probably has to do with that 22.19.25 # (anf the virtualbox usb *driver* is not open source afaik) 22.20.29 # * gevaerts can still kill the connection on his e200 by just tocuhing the wheel 22.20.53 # just touching or turning it fast ? 22.21.14 # turn it 10 degrees or so 22.21.28 # with linux ? 22.21.37 # yes 22.21.50 # With a UMS transfer going one or not ? 22.22.16 # ah, yes. dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null bs=64k 22.22.40 # turning the wheel two clicks is usually enough 22.23.22 # Hum HID sometimes just doesn't work on my linux, UMS ok but HID doesn't send events to the OS 22.23.30 Join webguest57 [0] (n=562d4b1d@giant.haxx.se) 22.23.51 Mode "#rockbox +v webguest57 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.24.04 # Perhaps iy's virtualbox doing a mess 22.25.23 # Interestingly enough, under my virtualized XP, UMS only reports internal storage whereas under linux it also reports my microsd 22.25.58 # * pamaury reboot rockbox because HID doesn't work 22.26.56 # gevaerts: my nano crashed only when turning the wheel fast, but when turning it slow or pressing buttons, that was just being ignored 22.27.22 # * TheSeven will try again 22.27.25 # I can't make the transfer fail with the wheel 22.27.47 # Hum, I have a sudden doubt 22.28.10 # It seems to silently block the usb transfer indeed 22.28.16 # ugh, my USB doesn't work at all any more 22.28.46 # took ages to enumerate, and then windows showed an empty drive, and the gid doesn't work either 22.28.49 # hid* 22.28.51 # amiconn: just dump the insane buffer from iram, and then size it to roughly fit? 22.29.08 # gevaerts: you're right HID messes things up 22.29.18 # Does it happens on all your targets ? 22.29.19 # * TheSeven reconnected his ipod and now it works 22.30.00 # (read) UMS transfer and HID at the same time even 22.30.14 # when it crashed the last time, i was writing to it though, let me try that 22.30.31 # pamaury: I'm currently only testing on e200 22.31.43 # hm, it still works (with a write transfer in parallel), also it is pretty sluggish 22.32.02 # hid events seem to be partly dropped and partly delayed by several seconds 22.32.10 # but it didn't crash 22.32.34 # the beast is the only device listed on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SoundCodecMonkeysAudio that can be called anywhere near handling insane, anyway... and 50% isn't too near ;) 22.33.57 # urgh, key release events getting dropped on the volume control... that's not nice at all. 22.34.50 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.35.11 Mode "#rockbox +v stripwax " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.36.45 # I'll try to make simulator usb work with virtualbox. That would be a good way to check if this bug appears 22.37.43 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=456&target=ipodvideo - does that not violate copyright ? as the originals were removed no ? 22.38.50 Join rhodan_ [0] (n=quassel@81.62.66.238) 22.39.11 Mode "#rockbox +v rhodan_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.40.20 Quit rhodan (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.41.11 # * JdGordon| would really like to fix the sbs name before release, but noone has come up with a better name 22.42.11 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.3.6) 22.42.31 Mode "#rockbox +v S_a_i_n_t " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.42.33 # JdGordon|: for the file name extension? ie the .sbs? 22.42.55 # everything 22.43.07 # calling it the custom statubsar hardly makes any sense 22.43.14 # ohh 22.43.42 # .rbs? Rockbox skin? 22.43.43 # custom menu screen ? 22.43.53 # if that ever happens, it should happen in the first release with the feature, not afterwards 22.44.22 # .rbs is too close to .rsbs 22.44.28 # but I guess that'd get renamed too 22.44.39 # .rrbs ? 22.44.53 # confusing 22.46.05 # JdGordon: what did you decide on regarding backdrops and the .sbs? 22.46.38 # 14208 entries is the largest table i can fit in iram on my e200. improvement at this table size is about .6-.7MHz. 22.46.56 # S_a_i_n_t: it works exactly as svn now 22.47.07 # so not entirely ideal, but no change to users 22.47.25 # * gevaerts is unhappy 22.47.40 # The direction of transfer completions seems to be wrong a lot 22.48.08 # gevaerts: in usb transfers ? in which cases ?* 22.48.18 # sweet, that makes sense...and avoids "what the **** happened to 'n' " posts on the Forum. 22.48.47 # pamaury: I get a lot of "IN received in WAITING_FOR_COMMAND" and "OUT received in SENDING_CSW" 22.49.19 # That's strange 22.49.31 # well, a lot... I seem to always get those for read10 commands 22.49.41 # and not the correct ones 22.50.40 # JdGordon|: how about introducing .theme files, which hold general things ? 22.51.07 # well, thats what the .cfg is? 22.51.14 # or are you tihnking something different? 22.51.16 # isn't that what... 22.51.42 # beaten :) 22.52.28 # JdGordon|: .rbt - RockBox Theme 22.53.12 # AlexP: reminds me of that theme-in-tar-file patch I made some years ago ;-) 22.53.28 # heh, I even vaguely remember that :) 22.53.57 # theme in a tar would be sweet 22.54.04 # theme in zip would be better :) 22.54.27 # AlexP: I'm not really fan of that.. Main Skin perhaps? 22.54.32 # JdGordon|: well, there was a patch for that. Though only tar, as it's easier 22.54.38 Join Tomis2 [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.87.19) 22.54.44 # um, this is wrong 22.54.46 # would RMS go ape if we used his name? 22.54.59 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis2 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.55.22 # but IMO it would make sense to combine some of those theme files. 22.55.23 # compressed, losslessly? 22.55.25 # What is the main that main skin refers to? 22.55.47 # domonoky: Was it you that added the admin work needed thing to the theme site, or am I misremembering? 22.56.09 Quit MagusG (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.56.11 # AlexP: jup 22.56.25 # main being lists and menus and everything thats not skinned 22.56.28 # domonoky: So I see the banner - how do I tell what work needs doing? 22.56.35 Join MagusG [0] (i=magusg@c-98-192-69-229.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 22.56.49 # AlexP: a "theme" is the complete thing IMO (.wps etc.). The problem with "custom statusbar" is that it's not a statusbar at all - it's the list screen and it has a viewport with the list 22.56.56 Mode "#rockbox +v MagusG " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 22.57.16 # AlexP: for the moment its only the reported themes, login as admin, use the link to all themes and limit to reported themes. 22.57.17 # pixelma: Yeah I know - that's why I suggested .rbt for RockBox Theme 22.57.20 # while menu screen/skin? 22.57.25 # domonoky: OK 22.57.40 # although i should improve the report function, it gets a bit abused :-) 22.58.11 # domonoky: Er, where is the all themes ink? 22.58.20 # AlexP: I still don't understand. Why do you need a different file extension for theme files - there is .cfg for that 22.58.30 # domonoky: Sorry, I'm blind 22.58.31 # :-) 22.58.34 # does the command "svn revert" remove files you've added to the source, or just revert the existing ones back to the state they were at checkout? 22.58.45 # the latter 22.58.58 # thanks. 22.59.01 # pixelma: To differentiate between a theme and something that includes other random settings 22.59.06 # pixelma: But you don't really 22.59.24 # wasnt the point of using cfg always so there is no real difference between a theme and a regular config? 22.59.27 # This was coming from JdGordon| saying that .sbs doesn't make much sense anymore 22.59.55 # But yes for themes as a whole, .cfg is better 23.00.10 Quit Tomis (Connection reset by peer) 23.00.10 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (n=Tomis@70.134.87.19) 23.00.13 # I was talking about as a .sbs replacement 23.00.27 # yes, because .sbs doesn't describe what it actually is 23.00.44 # .sbs is a .wps for the lists 23.00.46 # domonoky: would it be hard to script up so every theme on the site gets unzipped, any .[r]sbs be renamed, and the .cfg gets fixed also? 23.00.56 # pixelma: exactly 23.00.56 # and then rezipped 23.01.08 # AlexP: I give up 23.01.21 # I can't follow 23.01.23 # why? You are agreeing with me 23.01.31 # is there a way to remove files you've added to your checked out source, or does one have to go through and do this manually? 23.01.55 # rm 23.01.58 # AlexP: no, not that I can see 23.02.16 # well whatever 23.02.21 # I don't care enough 23.02.26 # JdGordon|: if you write a script for it, i can run it recursivly on all themes folders on the themepage :-) 23.02.30 Quit petur ("Zzzzzzz") 23.02.35 # my impression still is that you talk about one thing that I see as two 23.02.42 # goody 23.02.54 # It really doesn't matter 23.03.19 # well, I'd like to understand though 23.03.56 # This got reported: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=456&target=ipodvideo 23.04.07 # Wasn't the original removed? 23.05.35 # pixelma: I was agreeing that .sbs is a bad name as it doesn't describe what it does - but I agree that my suggestion was even worse as it sounds like it should be the whole theme 23.06.11 # AlexP: webguest57 did say something regarding that theme... 23.06.18 # couldnt the sbs be combined with the wps? 23.06.21 # aha, ok. I couldn't find the latter part in your statements before 23.06.27 # so if someone can exactly descibe what the current sbs all does, maybe we can find a good name for it :-) 23.06.42 # pixelma: It wasn't there before, sorry - I thought I had but it seems I hadn't :) 23.06.42 # AlexP: yeah i noticed that today 23.07.29 # domonoky: I tried to a few minutes ago 23.07.41 # is there still talk of taking out the themes from the build and upping them on the theme site ? 23.08.18 # webguest57: Where was it removed from before? 23.08.39 # the wpsgraveyard ipod5g 23.08.43 # webguest57: Sort of - I'd quite like to, but it hasn't really been discussed and isn't really a priority 23.09.04 # pixelma: but the sbs also does describe the statusbar, not only skins for lists, correct ? 23.09.22 # i'd volunteer to do it, zip them up individually 23.09.48 # webguest57: Probably best to take it to the -dev list and see what people think 23.09.56 # domonoky: the sbs controls the look of everything outside of plugins and the wps 23.10.16 # AlexP - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WpsIpod5gGraveyard#Black_Glass_Album_Art_Version i do believe that's one and the same 23.10.43 # all the original black glasses got removed way back 23.10.44 # domonoky: you can design it to look like a statusbar, much like you design your WPS this way. But you can also set the background of the list screen and give the list a certain viewport 23.11.00 # JdGordon|: and fm/recording correct ? 23.11.07 Join marsman [0] (n=mueller1@p5B256ADD.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.11.11 # untill they are skinned seperatly, yes 23.11.27 Mode "#rockbox +v marsman " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.11.45 # webguest57: yes it was 23.11.57 Part marsman 23.12.00 # so we would have wps / wfs / wrs/ and a general skin file.. 23.12.24 Quit webguest57 ("CGI:IRC") 23.12.51 # what really confused me in my understanding first - the .sbs basically takes control of the complete screen and just has a list item 23.13.10 Join GeekShadow [0] (n=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.13.31 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShadow " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.13.35 # which is why custom status*bar* is so weird 23.14.26 # how about .wls = while lists screen.. 23.15.20 # .1 - just because everything else is even worse! ;-) 23.16.22 # or just .gs (general screen/skin) ? 23.16.54 # .skin 23.18.02 # * domonoky thinks .skin is good. 23.19.06 # .skin sounds a bit like something "theme" to me 23.19.37 # I can live with .skin.. but what about the menu name? 23.19.58 # oh 23.20.06 # * gevaerts grumbles 23.21.08 # shouldn't that be "Skin" too then (same as "While Playing Screen" etc.)? 23.21.23 # * gevaerts is going to make usb slightly slower 23.21.34 # why? 23.21.58 # to make it work a bit more correctly 23.22.02 # * domonoky thinks we should reduce the theme loading options to only the config. 23.22.10 # i mean where's the bug? 23.22.19 # *more* correctly! 23.22.29 # domonoky: noo 23.22.31 # I'm not claiming it's entirely correct yet 23.23.05 # pixelma: you can still mashup via context menu and editing the config file. 23.23.35 # and I 'm going to post to the forums to say why I think so. I got a few arguments already 23.24.28 # nooo.... dont derail the topic 23.24.34 # we are talking about a good name for sbs 23.24.38 # not removing settings! 23.24.44 # but if the menu option has to stay, just name it: "Load general skin file" :-) 23.24.49 # TheSeven: the storage driver starts listening for the next command while sending the result for the previous one. This should be safe, and it makes things faster. However, the new command transfer gets completed first on ARC, which confuses the logf output, and only doesn't confuse the storage driver because it doesn't check too much 23.24.54 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 23.25.31 # and I happen to prefer totally correct over a bit faster 23.26.45 # * TheSeven thinks that this was already correct 23.26.54 # actually i patched the same thing the other way round on synopsys 23.27.13 # gevaerts: it is normal that there are several cases in usb core where the core doesn't handle the control transfer and doesn't stall ? Example: vendor recip or device recip/unknown request 23.27.27 # if the new transfer isn't started before the old one completes, it will get NAKed/STALLed 23.27.40 # well, maybe ARC doesn't do that in hardware 23.27.58 # domonoky: There seems to be something a bit odd going on - I select hidden on a theme, put a reason in and do update all themes, yet the theme is still there as approved not hidden 23.28.12 # my guess is that they're completed in the same interrupt, in which case lower direction wins 23.28.20 # pamaury: I really don't know 23.28.27 # AlexP: did you press the button on the bottom of the page ? 23.28.31 # yep 23.28.58 Join Stephen [0] (n=S@86-45-75-29-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 23.29.19 Mode "#rockbox +v Stephen " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.29.22 Nick Stephen is now known as stephen___ (n=S@86-45-75-29-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 23.29.43 # domonoky: the font, WPS menu items are now only called that because they act like a setting now - the currently used is highlighted 23.29.58 # TheSeven: usb_storage should really be able to handle that case, but right now, I'm going for the easy fix, even if it causes a 10% to 15% slowdown 23.30.13 # the proper fix would be a lot more work 23.30.35 Quit rhodan_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.30.55 # even if there are no reports of this actually causing real problems... 23.31.56 # AlexP: looks like its only the display which is wrong after you pressed the button. the theme is correctly hidden. 23.32.13 # domonoky: I tried to hide multiple 23.32.26 # * TheSeven suspects that this doesn't only cause a slowdown, but will rather refuse to work at all 23.32.28 Join GeekShado_ [0] (i=Antoine@78.251.74.96) 23.32.31 # The first one I selected got properly hidden, all the others "appear" to still be there 23.32.49 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShado_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.32.59 # domonoky: Unless the Skylar G. ones are actually hidden? 23.33.02 # Unhelpful: The beast *can* handle insane. The 50% are with svn, i.e. running at half the maximum clock 23.33.02 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@81.62.66.238) 23.33.22 Mode "#rockbox +v rhodan " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.33.44 # It's very tight though 23.33.56 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r24333): don't start waiting for the new command in send_csw(). Although on the USB level this is entirely correct, and about 10% to 15% faster, ... 23.34.11 # TheSeven: why? 23.34.19 # AlexP: ah you selected multiple theme changes in one go ? maybe there is something broken with that. 23.34.41 # how will the controller react if a OUT transaction comes in, while no transaction is scheduled? 23.34.42 # domonoky: Yes initially, but now if I just select one it doesn't seem to work 23.34.53 # it should probably STALL it 23.34.59 # it must NAK it 23.35.07 # that's what NAK means 23.35.14 # AlexP: can you point me to such a theme ? 23.35.45 # NAK is kinda NYET. 23.35.51 # domonoky: Go Blue by Skylar G. 23.35.54 # yes 23.36.16 # domonoky: 320x240 23.36.18 # at least synopsys will STALL in that case, instead of NAKing, IIRC 23.36.34 # remember the issue we had with this some months ago? 23.36.38 # yes 23.36.48 # oh, wait 23.37.10 # I remember reading in the s3c6xxx spec a few weeks ago. Aren't there some bits you can set to control this? 23.37.54 # I'm not absolutely sure what exactly the issue was back then, but it was roughly the same, just the other way round 23.38.04 # AlexP: seems to work fine for me. 23.38.38 # domonoky: You just hid that theme? 23.39.03 # jep, but only shortly to test it :-) 23.39.29 # Could you hide it a let me see if I see it hidden? 23.39.33 # *and 23.40.08 # TheSeven: SGOUTNak and SGNPInNAK seem relevant 23.40.14 # sure. author will get a bit spammed, but who cares :-) 23.40.28 # Bugger, forgot about that 23.40.33 # Unhelpful: Hmm, the r1, r1, #0 23.40.43 # Hang on, I'll see if I get the same problem with one of mine 23.40.50 # gevaerts: IIRC that was not present for EP0 or something 23.40.59 # domonoky: Then we can test with that - I'm happy to spam myself :) 23.40.59 # ...can be changed to rsb now that the comparison result isn't used anymore 23.41.15 # TheSeven: ah, ok. Well, this isn't EP0 :) 23.41.35 # AlexP: Go Blue should be hidden now :-) 23.41.53 # gevaerts: besides getmaxlun and such... 23.42.30 # TheSeven: yes, but my change is *only* sending the CSW vs receiving the new SCSI command 23.42.34 # domonoky: Indeed it is - so why the hell can't I hide them? 23.42.44 # domonoky: I'll try loging out then in again 23.43.04 # domonoky: And if it still doesn't work, we can practise on one of mine so as to only spam me :) 23.43.29 # :-) i will set it back to approved then. 23.44.53 # did my "report naughty theme" comment get a giggle? 23.44.55 # yep - although I'm going to hide it once this works :) 23.45.44 # JdGordon|: the ria report was from you ? 23.45.54 # you didnt guess? 23.46.01 # I thought i put my name on it actually 23.46.25 # domonoky: Nope, it just doesn't work for me anymore - I've tried with two different browsers as well 23.46.28 # i think there was no name... but it caused a giggle. 23.47.30 # domonoky: This is very odd - do you have proper access to look at admin users etc.? 23.48.15 # AlexP: i have access, but there isnt much what could go wrong. especially only for some users.. 23.48.38 # domonoky: Can you log on as me to see if it works there? 23.48.52 Quit GeekShadow (Connection timed out) 23.49.02 # domonoky: If I PM you details :) 23.49.51 # sure, but first i take a look at the logged actions in the db, (themesite logs many actions, but doesnt display it anywhere at moment). 23.50.00 # OK, cheers 23.51.04 # did try to hide anything after i hide/unhide Go Blue ? 23.51.10 # yes 23.51.15 # one of my themes 23.51.16 # there is no action after that in the log. 23.51.27 # I tried to hide it at least twice 23.51.34 # And I didn't get a mail either 23.51.37 # so pm me your login and i will try. 23.51.41 # OK, cheers 23.52.01 # if there is no action in the log, the theme site didnt do anything. 23.53.16 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-227-235.slkc.qwest.net) 23.53.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.53.36 Mode "#rockbox +v Hillshum " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.53.42 # * pamaury will perhaps have HID working with simulator usb under virtualized XP 23.54.10 Quit Hillshum (Client Quit) 23.54.17 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-227-235.slkc.qwest.net) 23.54.30 # so... replacing "Custom Statusbar" with "Main Skin" ? 23.54.37 Mode "#rockbox +v Hillshum " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.55.17 # the statusbar option would be changed to "use main skin" also 23.55.28 # and the extension umm? 23.55.29 Quit evilnick ("going home, innit") 23.55.48 # .ms, obviously ;) 23.56.35 # all opposed? 23.57.24 # :'( as much as i really want to do this in 3.5.. it will be ugly 23.57.33 Join GeekShadow [0] (i=Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.57.54 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShadow " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 23.58.03 Quit bertrik ("De groeten")