--- Log for 30.01.110 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 0 hours ago 00.00.30 Quit toffe82_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.10.36 # YAY 00.10.39 # THE HD CAME TODAY 00.10.41 # * flyback dances 00.11.03 Join akur [0] (n=akur@bl11-192-177.dsl.telepac.pt) 00.11.23 Mode "#rockbox +v akur " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.15.40 Quit n17ikh () 00.17.52 # * andrewRB pokes flyback into #rockbox-community 00.18.36 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 00.18.56 Mode "#rockbox +v n17ikh " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.22.59 Quit n17ikh (Client Quit) 00.24.53 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 00.25.13 Mode "#rockbox +v n17ikh " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.39.16 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.42.16 Quit rphillips (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.42.36 Join rphillips [0] (n=rphillip@66-90-184-91.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 00.42.56 Mode "#rockbox +v rphillips " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.44.40 Quit rphillips (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.46.21 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@adsl-154-2-245.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.46.42 Mode "#rockbox +v Strife89 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.47.22 Join webguest64 [0] (n=464e215a@giant.haxx.se) 00.47.36 Join rphillips [0] (n=rphillip@66-90-184-91.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 00.47.42 Mode "#rockbox +v webguest64 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.47.46 Quit webguest64 (Client Quit) 00.47.57 Mode "#rockbox +v rphillips " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.52.49 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 00.52.57 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 00.53.17 Mode "#rockbox +v DataGhost " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 00.57.42 # am i missing something, or is the second store here superfluous? it looks as if it's storing the value it just loaded: http://pastie.org/801244 01.00.03 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.02.05 Nick S_a_i_n_t_ is now known as S_a_i_n_t (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.2.71) 01.02.15 Quit andrewRB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.38 Join andrewRB [0] (i=adb@88-110-101-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 01.02.58 Mode "#rockbox +v andrewRB " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.09.34 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.09.54 Mode "#rockbox +v Zarggg " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.14.43 # * S_a_i_n_t looks at bluebroth3r's last commit and wonders if it means what he thinks it does. 01.15.17 Part froggyman 01.16.37 # Unhelpful: Fused vector operations speed up the filters by ~10% 01.17.35 # Unhelpful: The first store advances r3... 01.18.21 # (~10% on PP, tested only on PP5022 so far) 01.18.26 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.20.17 # amiconn: ahhhh! that explains it, then... i noticed this while i was looking at what our SATURATE(x) compiled to. our method is what the ASDG says, as well, although they use ldr =0x7fff, which would be a terrible idea on armv4 ;) 01.21.34 # The fused vector op filter still doesn't make -c2000 play without skipping, but it brings the -c3000 filter *for the filter alone* to ~120% realtime 01.21.57 # That means -c3000 will most probably be playable with dual-core ape 01.24.50 # excellent... i'm going to go ahead and commit the stuff for moving the 256+ filter buffers and code out of iram, i think. the gain isn't large but there's really no good reason *not* to sacrifice speed on profiles that can never reach RT to get better performance on ones that are close 01.28.25 Join GeekShado_ [0] (n=Antoine@23.137.195-77.rev.gaoland.net) 01.28.45 Mode "#rockbox +v GeekShado_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.29.50 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 01.29.50 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.34.49 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 01.35.51 Quit bertrik ("De groeten") 01.37.48 Quit akur ("Leaving.") 01.43.21 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.49.08 Quit Farthen (Nick collision from services.) 01.49.34 Join Farthen_ [0] (n=chatzill@e176141137.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.49.36 Nick Farthen_ is now known as Farthen (n=chatzill@e176141137.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.49.54 Mode "#rockbox +v Farthen " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 01.53.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.56.16 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@85.214.97.64) 02.03.06 Quit Res1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.03.25 Join Res1 [0] (n=Res@adsl-067-034-129-222.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 02.03.46 Mode "#rockbox +v Res1 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.04.33 # hrm, actually, i do think i can improve slightly on SATURATE - we can produce x>>31 in the result register for use in an alternate test (x>>31 == x>>15), overwrite it with with x if the test passes, eor it with 0x7fff fi the test fails. i had to inline asm most of it to make it happen, though, as gcc can't seem to generate decent code for this construction. 02.07.59 Quit DataGhost (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.09.07 Quit Rob2222 () 02.09.43 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCAD04.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.10.04 Mode "#rockbox +v Rob2222 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.12.01 Quit ThS|Bullet` ("Bye les gens =)") 02.13.06 # gcc kind of, sort of gets it right but insists on forming 0x7fff in a register, when it could instead eor with 0x7f00 and then 0xff as immediates 02.21.06 # Great news: I now have a Sansa Clip v1 that has a fully working car mode. It has auto stop _and_ auto start by USB power. OF can be loaded by pressing the left button like usual. Big thanks to everyone who helped get me here. Others have requested this capability and I don't mind sharing but I am looking for recommendations on _how_ to do this. 02.22.45 # jsiddall: probably open an FS task with a patch for your work? that way somebody with commit access can review it for commit. if it's really trivial you might just pastebin the patch, but this probably needs somebody with the right specific knowledge for review, i would think. 02.24.00 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.24.21 Mode "#rockbox +v fdinel " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.27.59 # It really is trivial. Commenting out about a half dozen lines in two files. 02.29.12 # But I am not sure if it is for everyone. If you don't want car mode to work you are probably best with the previous behavior. I just know there are some others out there that do want car mode to work. How do people tend to handle these exceptions? 02.31.56 # jsiddall: Normally you would make a patch to current SVN and post that patch on Flyspray as Unhelpful mentioned. That way everyone can take a look and comment on it. Does that make sense? 02.33.03 # how does it differ from current behavior when not using car mod? 02.33.08 # modE ;/ 02.34.10 # It _never_ boots OF now unless you press a button when you plug it in. The issue I see is I don't think that is the behavior most people want. 02.34.15 # jsiddall: I would encourage you to do so as it seems you are not the only one who wants this feature 02.35.49 # But if you post a diff to flyspray someone else may have a way to make it work in a way that makes everyone happy... 02.36.41 # That is not possible until there is a working USB stack in RB, and I am pretty sure no one has a way to do that yet. There's the rub. 02.37.03 # * andrewRB slaps jsiddall till he posts the diff anyway 02.38.15 # By posting your diff you are not forcing anyone to do it your way, you are just making your idea known 02.38.29 # * Unhelpful gives up on getting gcc not to be stupid 02.38.44 # stupid != inefficient 02.38.59 # OK, done. I'll post it. But does that not also imply I want it committed (which really I don't)? 02.39.12 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.39.20 # Say so in your message then, that's fine 02.39.25 # nope, not really. a lot of patched exist and are maintained which will never be committed 02.39.29 # *patches 02.39.32 # It's more like a separate branch. The car mode branch. 02.39.40 # OK, good enough 02.40.02 # andrewRB: it's converting C operations that map directly and efficiently to single operations into something more complicated. maybe it's trying to do something clever, but the result is anything but. 02.40.35 # it converts "x ^= 0x7f00; x ^= 0xff" to "t = 0x7f00; t += 0xff; x ^= t;", essentially 02.41.50 # * andrewRB agrees on "stupid" 02.42.22 # i would *rather* not use inline asm as gcc can't schedule other operations in the middle of inline asm. this would be relevant on arm9e where loads are 1c with delayed result availability. 02.45.35 Join phanboy4 [0] (n=benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 02.45.55 Mode "#rockbox +v phanboy4 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.53.14 Join moos_ [0] (i=moos@85-171-102-158.rev.numericable.fr) 02.53.35 Mode "#rockbox +v moos_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 02.55.14 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.55.27 Nick moos_ is now known as moos (i=moos@85-171-102-158.rev.numericable.fr) 02.55.45 Quit rphillips (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.04.49 # New commit by 03rasher (r24374): Initial import of translate.rockbox.org code. 03.06.13 Quit GeekShado_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.15.28 # New commit by 03rasher (r24375): Ensure updates happen in the right location. 03.17.40 # Zagor: If you could set up translate.rockbox.org, it should be good to go 03.20.55 # New commit by 03unhelpful (r24376): Improve libdemac SATURATE slightly on ARMv4/5, move filter buffers and code out of IRAM for sizes that aren't near realtime and extend udiv32_arm ... 03.22.38 Join stooo1 [0] (n=sto@g228077218.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.22.58 Mode "#rockbox +v stooo1 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.25.20 Quit fyrestorm ("Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!") 03.26.17 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.33.21 # could anybody please advise me on how to compile the scramble tool alone? 03.37.06 Quit stooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.39.35 # um 03.39.40 # what happened to mktccboot? 03.50.29 Quit HBK (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.50.29 Quit HellDragon_ (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit Unhelpful (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit scorche (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit advcomp2019 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit dmb (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit Llorean (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit simabeis (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit yosafbridge (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.29 Quit utchybann (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.50.31 Join Unhelpful_ [0] (n=quassel@pool-71-173-205-32.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 03.50.32 Join simabeis_ [0] (n=simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 03.50.39 NHeal card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.50.39 NJoin yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@adsl-71-142-225-118.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 03.50.48 NJoin advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 03.50.49 NJoin HellDragon_ [0] (n=jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.50.51 Mode "#rockbox +v Unhelpful_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.50.52 Mode "#rockbox +v simabeis_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.50.53 NJoin dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 03.50.59 Mode "#rockbox +v yosafbridge " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.51.01 NJoin utchybann [0] (n=papier@ede67-1-81-56-102-26.fbx.proxad.net) 03.51.09 Mode "#rockbox +v advcomp2019 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.51.09 Mode "#rockbox +v HellDragon_ " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.51.13 Mode "#rockbox +v dmb " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.51.21 Mode "#rockbox +v utchybann " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.51.29 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@99-32-77-163.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 03.51.33 NJoin scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 03.51.44 NJoin HBK [0] (n=hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 03.51.49 Mode "#rockbox +v Llorean " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.51.53 Mode "#rockbox +v scorche " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.52.04 Mode "#rockbox +v HBK " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.52.12 Join MagusG [0] (i=magusg@c-98-192-69-229.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 03.52.32 Mode "#rockbox +v MagusG " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.53.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.54.35 # ok, i have mingw set up and "i686-pc-mingw32-gcc helloworld.c -o helloworld.exe" works fine. now what should I edit to make scramble cross-compile? 03.56.02 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCACE0.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.56.22 Mode "#rockbox +v Rob2223 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.01.43 Join wind [0] (n=7a05aa05@giant.haxx.se) 04.02.04 Mode "#rockbox +v wind " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.02.39 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 04.02.52 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.03.03 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.03.12 Mode "#rockbox +v TheSeven " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.07.29 Quit andrewRB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.07.47 Join andrewRB [0] (i=adb@88-110-101-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 04.08.07 Mode "#rockbox +v andrewRB " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.11.24 Join DerPapst1 [0] (n=DerPapst@p4FE8E8C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.11.44 Mode "#rockbox +v DerPapst1 " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.13.49 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.22.14 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133108225.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 04.22.35 Mode "#rockbox +v teru " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.24.27 Quit Strife89DS ("ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS") 04.28.44 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.50 # has mkboot swallowed up mktccboot? 04.33.53 Quit DerPapst1 ("Leaving.") 04.37.06 Nick Unhelpful_ is now known as Unhelpful (n=quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 04.38.41 Part andrewRB ("Leaving") 04.39.12 Join andrewRB [0] (i=adb@88-110-101-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 04.39.32 Mode "#rockbox +v andrewRB " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 04.42.26 # hrm... probably not worthwhile to bother replacing the libgcc divider with the APE divider entirely when building APE? it would save some space (not having two functions that do the same thing) but it's not like there's a great shortage of non-iram space... 04.54.33 Quit moos ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]") 04.55.39 Join Barahir [0] (n=jonathan@gssn-5f754748.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.56.00 Mode "#rockbox +v Barahir " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.00.41 Quit TheSeven (Nick collision from services.) 05.00.53 Join The_Seven [0] (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.01.05 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (n=theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.01.14 Mode "#rockbox +v TheSeven " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.03.53 Join yzflcyq [0] (n=3a3d2f3e@giant.haxx.se) 05.04.14 Mode "#rockbox +v yzflcyq " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.08.49 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 05.09.10 Mode "#rockbox +v CaptainKewl " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.09.38 Join rphillips [0] (n=rphillip@66-90-184-91.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 05.09.59 Mode "#rockbox +v rphillips " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.12.34 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.15.45 Nick S_a_i_n_t is now known as internet_ (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.2.71) 05.16.19 Nick internet_ is now known as S_a_i_n_t (i=S_a_i_n_@203.184.2.71) 05.21.52 Quit elcan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.29.36 Join sustineo [0] (n=42116ef5@giant.haxx.se) 05.29.57 Mode "#rockbox +v sustineo " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.30.29 # hi, um is there any issue with rockbox on the fuze and 1.02.31 OF firmware? just wondering before I mkamsboot'ed it 05.36.33 # ... 05.36.38 # it failed anyways 05.36.40 # >_> 05.37.11 # [ERR] Original firmware unknown, please try an other version. Tested c200 versi ons are : 3.02.05 [ERR] Could not load fuzea.bin 05.38.09 # anyone know what the problem is? 05.40.52 # sustineo: have you looked here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS ? 05.43.06 # yeah thats the same as what i followed it appears 05.45.32 # i also had this problem with rockbox recognizing the fuze as a c200 with the auto-installer (before i figured out you couldn't use it) 05.47.51 # I don't know jack about the port...but from what I can tell the firmware needs to be 03.01.16 05.48.11 # get thet here: http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=e200&thread.id=13548 05.48.52 # well this would be for the fuze 05.49.12 # i already made one with 1.02.26 that worked fine 05.49.25 Join Roboto [0] (n=4b875df7@giant.haxx.se) 05.49.27 # yes, you're quite right...sorry 05.49.46 Mode "#rockbox +v Roboto " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.50.17 # Hey 05.50.46 # I got a question for the Rockbox team 05.51.06 # sustineo: the sansa sit reports latest OF to be 01.02.26 & 02.02.26 05.51.14 # for the fuse that is 05.51.27 # sit? 05.51.35 # http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=sansafuse&thread.id=23276 05.52.15 # Nvm 05.52.21 # http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=sansafuse&thread.id=38046 05.52.30 # here's 1.02.31 05.53.05 Quit Roboto (Client Quit) 05.53.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.54.05 # All I'm doing is following the link from the rbwiki 05.54.09 # yeah 05.54.15 # and it points me to here: http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=sansafuse&thread.id=23276 05.54.20 Join elcan [0] (i=user36@pr0.us) 05.54.36 # i noted that they hadn't updated it in a while, but maybe that's because the new ones aren't compatible 05.54.40 Mode "#rockbox +v elcan " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 05.54.53 # that's what it said last time as well 05.55.33 # well since the developers of rockbox don't think it's worth wild to have a dump smart status to test file command I think I figured out my own solution 05.56.03 # if the drive has tmos like seagate's other devices, then I only need a 3 wire serial interface to run diags and check status while the drive is in the unit 05.56.38 # Hmmmm...sometimes the wiki is correct, sometimes it's outdated. I don't own a fuse so I can't say either way. 05.57.29 # I would suggest using the one the wiki points to though 05.57.42 # test/text 05.58.22 # hm 05.59.24 # well, i was looking for a OF update as i hear the new version has faster file transfers than the one i had installed and also supports slotradio for whenever i need more than rockbox's 5 hours of battery life 05.59.30 # thanks anyways 05.59.32 Quit sustineo ("CGI:IRC") 06.10.30 # "don't think it's worthwhile". what, just because somebody doesn't instantly jump to do what you asked? 06.10.30 Quit evilnick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.10.35 Join evilnick [0] (n=evilnick@ool-457bccf5.dyn.optonline.net) 06.10.37 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.10.56 Mode "#rockbox +v evilnick " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 06.11.18 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 06.11.39 Mode "#rockbox +v Xerion " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 06.47.27 Join yawny [0] (i=user36@pr0.us) 06.47.48 Mode "#rockbox +v yawny " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 06.48.29 Quit yzflcyq ("CGI:IRC") 06.52.41 Quit `Assassin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.53.24 # slotradio? how is that different than an mp3/aac on sd card? 06.55.01 Quit Tomis () 06.55.22 Quit elcan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.58.00 Join Tomis [0] (n=Tomis@70.134.92.165) 06.58.20 Mode "#rockbox +v Tomis " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 07.01.50 Quit Curtman (Remote closed the connection) 07.08.30 # tmzt: it seems the files on slotradio cards are restricted by *some* sort of drm - you can only use supported players, etc. presumably the card has an ID that they're authorized to, as well, so that you can't simply copy them onto another card for a friend with a supported device. it might not even appear as a storage card, it could speak some custom protocol over sdio... 07.30.16 Join elcan [0] (i=user36@pr0.us) 07.30.37 Mode "#rockbox +v elcan " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 07.38.02 Quit yawny (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.40.21 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.40.41 Mode "#rockbox +v Horschti " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 07.47.09 # I hadn't even heard of slotradio until I looked it up after that post...I'm not sure why anyone would see that as a good idea. 07.47.41 # S_a_i_n_t: "lots of songs for very cheap" seems to be the appeal. 07.48.28 # * S_a_i_n_t wonders how many people *actually* pay for music these days... 07.49.43 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 07.53.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.54.53 # plenty 07.58.21 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.58.31 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.58.51 Mode "#rockbox +v Horscht " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.08.47 Quit Horschti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.11.48 Join tomers [0] (n=chatzill@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 08.12.09 Mode "#rockbox +v tomers " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.12.19 # * tomers Working on fixing fractal's colors 08.16.18 # New commit by 03funman (r24377): mandelbrot: use correct colors on greyscale targets (FS#10935) ... 08.17.03 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.17.12 # tomers: sorry ^^ 08.17.23 Mode "#rockbox +v funman " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.17.43 Quit panni_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 08.19.08 # tomers: what's the idea for max_iter calculation in recalc_parameters() ? 08.19.40 # I can see there is max 16 colors, but what will give a lower number ? 08.22.37 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 08.25.53 # funman: each pixel's value is determined by a number of iterations. if #iterations exceeds max_iter, the convergence color will be assigned. otherwise, a color that represents this in the value [0, max_iter] 08.26.03 # s/value/range/ 08.27.21 # for grayscale targets, graylib is used, which gives a color depth of 8-bit. Therefore colors should be given in the range 0..255. We should map 345 possible values to these colors 08.27.42 # why 345 ? 08.28.22 # max_iter won't go above 15 08.29.37 # also i'm not sure what is the 26 in LCOLOR description 08.29.49 # funman: max_iter is being calculated in recalc_parameters(). It changes according to the zoom level, and it is based on a value returned from ilog2_fp, which has minimum value of -26. 08.31.30 # tomers: is the MAX() correct line 151 ? 08.32.19 # funman: That's a logic I didn't change from the original code. I guess it is ok, since it was used this way for a long time 08.33.23 # there's *some* kind of goofiness in the plugin... if you zoom in far enough it gets "stuck" all one color (can't zoom back out or pan) 08.33.32 # funman: It is reasonable. It makes max_iter's possible values to be in the range [15, 345]. Note that step_log2 is negative (!). It is confusing. 08.33.49 # hm ok 08.33.59 # Unhelpful: Are you sure? I fixed that? 08.34.13 # tomers: oh! i didn't realize anybody had! 08.34.23 # * Unhelpful wonders when that happened 08.35.02 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4F734.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.35.20 # funman: if max_iter is, say, 15 in a specific zoom level, then we should map each of these 15 levels into colors. When we zoom in it turns to, say, 150, and we now map 150 levels into colors. If we calc our numbers differently each time, then the same 'pixel' after zooming in might dramatically change its value, so that when you zoom in on a fractal you notice it changes colors. This is not... 08.35.21 # ...reasonable, therefor I used the max possible value of max_iter, which is 345, and based colors on that value. 08.35.22 Mode "#rockbox +v stoffel " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.37.00 Quit CaptainKewl ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 08.37.29 # Unhelpful: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=24264 08.38.31 # iter << 5 only leave 3 bits of color, yet the plugin is very visible 08.39.47 # tomers: belated thanks, then. :) 08.40.20 # funman: I should have used the LCD_RGBPACK to transform iter value to color, instead of mapping is to [0, 1<<16] (for LCD color targets with 16 bit color depth). 08.40.39 # pixlema already complained about it, and she's right. 08.41.02 # Unhelpful: You're welcome :-) 08.41.50 # when using simply LCOLOR(iter) = (iter), i hardly see anything, which makes me think max_iter is very low 08.42.34 # zooming makes it brighter 08.43.01 # I want to ask a question: how to change the font size of the Frotz games. 08.43.25 # funman: Maybe the problem is that the color is calculated from max_iter, instead of MAX_max_iter==345... Can you please change and check? 08.44.44 # I think it's too small to read it well. 08.45.02 # tomers: what should I change ? 08.45.43 # I think in black & white we can't just add more colors as we make more iterations, the low colors are too dark 08.45.56 # wind: Ask the maintainer (I don't remember who it is) 08.46.27 # funman: forget it... 08.46.41 # wind: you want to talk with Torne 08.46.56 Quit elcan (Client Quit) 08.47.08 Join elcan [0] (i=user36@pr0.us) 08.47.18 # my opinion is to revert r24265 and redo it in a better way. 08.47.25 # funman:how to find him 08.47.27 # perhaps with some prng/hash like algorithm we can get a nice distribution of 0-345 over 0-255 08.47.28 Mode "#rockbox +v elcan " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.47.37 # wind: he's on this channel 08.48.20 # funman: I don't see anything on grayscale target. You say it is shown, but just too dark? 08.48.38 # tomers: with the last revision it shows quite well 08.49.04 # funman: I use sansaclip on simulator and it is completely dark 08.49.46 # Unhelpful: The effect when zooming in too far in fractals isn't 'goofness', you just hit the fixed point resolution limit 08.50.02 # tomers: works fine here, i tested on the sansaclip sim as well 08.50.13 Join rhodan [0] (n=quassel@16-164.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 08.50.18 # * amiconn still ponders adding 64 bit precision for very deep zoom 08.50.33 # funman: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10935 ??? 08.50.34 Mode "#rockbox +v rhodan " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.50.59 # The multiplication routines will become monsters though, as they need to do an (intermediate) 64bit*64bit->128bit 08.51.00 # tomers: did you svn up to r24377 ? 08.52.33 # * tomers ROFL 08.53.24 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 08.53.45 Mode "#rockbox +v AndyI " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.53.52 # #define LCOLOR(iter) ((iter & 7) << 5) is closer to old colors 08.54.11 # funman: But then you have much less colors 08.54.23 # I'm not sure about other targets but on the clip I can't really see 256 colors on the screen 08.55.44 # it looks fine on the simulator with more precision though 08.55.45 Quit rhodan_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.56.19 # * funman wonders how it'll look if i start from the brightest color 08.58.27 # if we use non linear color distribution it'll look weird 08.58.41 # funman: The clip simulator looks great 09.00.32 # funman: I'm on vacation starting tomorrow (for a week), and I have a very limited time today. I hope nothing urgent comes out in regard to the fractals plugin 09.01.40 # funman: the clip is a particularly bad target for greylib (hardware... sim should be ok) because it has a very fast display 09.01.47 # tomers: now it works at least 09.02.34 # Unhelpful: scan rate looks similar to other targets, does it count ? 09.02.39 # funman: Cowon D2 (color target) look OK too 09.03.15 # it must look good with only 15 levels though, so we can't have 256 colors, 0-15 would not look great 09.03.35 # funman: the issue is the display - the greyscale/mono LCDs have pixels that change values much more slowly, so that flickering them is much more effective - it's not relying entirely on your eyes to blend frames, the LCD does much of the work 09.03.40 # * tomers Wonders how to map [0..345] to LCD_RGBPACK(R, G, B) 09.03.42 # the clip's OLED display is *very* fast 09.03.45 # * tomers Wonders how to map [0..345] to LCD_RGBPACK(R, G, B ) 09.04.53 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.05.00 # funman: Are there any issues left in fractals? Is it ready to be merged into 3.5? 09.06.04 # i'm trying different colors 09.10.08 # funman: Colors are generated by colouring points not in the set according to how quickly or slowly the sequence diverges to infinity (Based on From Wikipedia: Mandelbrot Set) 09.11.18 # 'how quickly' translates to #iterations. If #iterations>max_iter, convergence color is used. Otherwise, color is computed as explained above 09.13.01 # http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/2498/cliph.png 09.13.31 # 2 different algorithms : 1 on the left, the other on the right 09.14.24 # the 2 use 16 different colors, from 0 to 15*16, looping over the same colors for n_iter > 15 09.15.08 # well on the left, (0->15) * 16, and on the right (15->0) * 16 09.16.12 # -#define LCOLOR(iter) (iter << 5) 09.16.12 # +#define LCOLOR(iter) ((iter ^ 15) << 4) 09.16.34 # could you try on a *real* grey lcd target ? (not yellow/blue oled) 09.16.52 # funman: Both OK I guess. It's a matter of taste. I like the bottom left one. I can't see any differences between upper-left and upper-right 09.17.08 # funman: I have code that adds support for changing color scheme. So please consider this when thinking about new color calculation 09.17.31 # I mean if you lay the basis for having color schemes it would be great 09.17.49 # color schemes on greyscale ? :o 09.18.19 # I guess not, but for color LCDs it would be a nice little feature :-) 09.21.16 # with 32 different colors it just looks weird 09.22.05 Quit stooo1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.22.09 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@g228077218.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.22.29 Mode "#rockbox +v stooo " by rb_voicebot (n=rb_voice@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 09.22.42 # can someone with a grey lcd target test http://pastie.org/801560 please ? 09.23.00 # oh, but I have a yh920 .. 09.30.24 # funman: I could but it'll take a while 09.30.51 # well i tried on my yh920 and it's visible 09.31.43 Quit stoffel (Client Quit) 09.32.35 # craziness, it looks as though libgcc contains, and rockbox links with, __aeabi_(u)idivmod, even if not using an eabi toolchain... 09.32.35 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 09.32.44 Quit 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(~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 12.03.05 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.04.02 Topic "3.5 has been branched | RC builds at http://usa.jdgordon.info/rockbox/3.5rc/ | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 12.05.28 Quit CIA-5 (Remote host closed the connection) 12.12.32 Join CIA-8 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 12.13.42 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 12.14.50 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 12.18.35 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 12.23.01 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.24.24 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.25.04 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.27.48 # S_a_i_n_t: what did you think my last commit does? 12.29.25 # Errrr...remove Debug (Keep Out!) from System? 12.29.45 # I haven't built from the latest yet, but that was what I *thought* it did/does 12.30.06 # no. It was a change in rbutil, not Rockbox :) 12.30.29 # I always figured if we were supposed to keep out of it, it shouldn't be there. 12.30.33 # Ah, I see. 12.31.29 # the reason for the debug menu is to debug things, and this can also happen to be helpful asking users to do. But for general use one should keep out, hence the hint :) 12.32.16 # we should move some things out of it though 12.32.31 # * S_a_i_n_t agrees 12.33.14 # some things like ...? 12.34.55 # A key combination during startup to get into the debug menu (kinda like iPod OF style) could be cool. To the average user "Keep Out!" (especially with the exclamation mark) means "Please fiddle with all these settings" 12.34.57 # IMO 12.35.45 # ok, so name a key combination that is free on all targets ;-) 12.36.07 # but it could be hidden unless a file /.rockbox/debug.show exists (or something like that) 12.36.40 # that's probably a better suggestion 12.37.03 # at least the screenshot thing 12.37.15 # or a hidden configuration option, i.e. you need to load a cfg which enables the menu until next boot 12.37.44 # Sometimes you want the debug menu to see the current situation. Having to reboot breaks that 12.38.37 # having to reboot? I meant to have a configuration option that is no persistent, i.e. it will get reset on next reboot 12.38.51 # ok 12.39.07 # gevaerts: where would you put the screenshot thing? 12.39.51 # pixelma: I'm not entirely sure, maybe on its own in System? My main point is that if the debug menu goes away for regular users, it should go somewhere 12.40.34 # not relevant to this (well kinda, since we're talking about the Sys menu) I've always thought time & date should be in Settings (with it's own sub-menu) instead of settings... 12.40.38 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 12.41.13 # *instead of system rather 12.41.56 # S_a_i_n_t: that's an old argument... 12.42.19 # I thought it would be... 12.42.34 # My counter argument is that if I change something in Settings, and I look there again, I expect it to be the same :) 12.43.11 # gevaerts: it still is the same. If you correct the time in the settings and look at it again it's still correct ;-) 12.43.23 # bluebroth3r: "correct" != "the same"! 12.43.33 # gevaerts: ;-) 12.43.45 # bluebroth3r: it could also be wrong again 12.44.13 # pixelma: then it was wrong before, so it's wrong again. So the situation hasn't changes :) 12.44.16 # *changed 12.44.18 # we coult of course disable the RTC and always show the same time 12.44.31 # :P 12.44.50 # hehe 12.45.01 # seriously though, for things like enabling the sleep timer, I do think that argument is valid. For adjusting the clock, it's a bit nitpicky 12.45.21 # * bluebroth3r starts to like the idea of enabling the debug menu via something special like loading a special cfg 12.45.52 # w00t! Idea! 12.45.57 # bluebroth3r: just make sure there's a way for people who really want it to keep it 12.46.03 # hm, did people complain about the presence of the debug menu? 12.46.14 # well, me.....kinda 12.46.18 # * gevaerts doesn't want to re-enable the debug menu at every boot while testing things 12.46.18 # * amiconn wouldn't hide the debug menu by default 12.46.48 # bluebroth3r: What if disk access ceases to work and you want to look up something in the debug menu to find out why? 12.47.09 # Howabout a setting in settings like "debug Menu=Enable/disable"? 12.47.25 # S_a_i_n_t: In the "Advanced Settings" section? ;) 12.47.27 # * gevaerts hides 12.48.52 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.48.52 # * amiconn opposes settings that hide settings, unless there's this is required for technical reasons 12.49.12 # Settings to hide settings make things more complex, not less 12.49.23 # The "best" (subjective) place I could think to put it would be in "Settings/System/Debug/ 12.50.29 # I'd rather cut down the debug menu a bit for public builds 12.50.58 # that was the initial idea 12.51.10 # Not remove it 12.51.58 # It would be good to take screenshot out of debug anyway 12.52.05 # No matter what happens to debug 12.52.54 # I kinda like the idea of a setting to hide it completely though, enabled by default, or even just renaming it to just Debug...my initial argument is that the (Keep Out!) means "hey, please mess with all these settings" to some people 12.53.22 # Then those people are idiots 12.53.23 # S_a_i_n_t: well, if they really want to, it's their player... 12.53.42 # If you say keep out and people don't, then that is their issue 12.53.52 # It isn't our job to wipe their arse for them 12.56.03 # I still quite like the Idea of adding a sub-menu to Settings/System/ called Debug to enable/disable the debug menu, disable by default on public builds...I can imagine how/why some may disagree though 12.56.26 # I don't like hiding some settings based on others 12.56.40 # Sure, let's remove some things from debug for the releases 12.56.44 # but not hide it 12.56.46 # I wouldn't want a setting for that. 12.57.10 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber@c-9c3471d5.012-155-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 12.57.19 # _if_ hiding the debug menu then do it based on some setting that has no entry so you need to explicitly load a cfg that enables it. Or use a file 12.58.21 # when moving the screenshot option out of the debug menu it might make sense to change its behaviour slightly: display a splash on usb connection with something like "screenshot taken" so people see that something actually happened 12.58.31 # Good idea 12.58.42 # Well, in that case I prefer bluebroth3r's idea of "or a hidden configuration option, i.e. you need to load a cfg which enables the menu until next boot" 12.58.48 Join mitk [0] (~594e0d92@giant.haxx.se) 12.59.39 # I disagree with the hidden configuration option option 12.59.44 # Me too 12.59.52 # I think the current situation is fine actually and don't really see how the current situation is enough of a problem to add settings or hide things 12.59.58 # I agree 13.00.14 # "We might want the debug menu to be a little less obvious, so let's make it really non-obvious to get to it" 13.00.28 Quit mitk (Client Quit) 13.01.05 # "And let's remove the warning on the assumption that everyone works on reverse psychology - if we say don't they will, so if we don't say don't, they won't" 13.01.30 # But I do think screenshot should come out of the debug menu anyway 13.01.40 # make the debug menu title empty? ;-) 13.01.49 # bluebroth3r: hehe, indeed :) 13.02.04 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 13.02.13 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4F734.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.02.29 # * bluebroth3r imagines the instructions when trying to help users ... "go to the empty menu entry ..." :D 13.02.47 # Make the debug menu appear if you type "I really want the debug menu, so please show it NOW!" in the virtual keyboard, without any typos. Make it go away on reboot 13.03.19 # I was actually gong to suggest just naming it to "Debug" as the (Keep Out!) well, you remember being a child no? it's like "the secret cupboard of mystery"...you know you shouldn't, but you just have to...and while you're in there, you may as well fiddle with a few things.. :D 13.03.51 # *heheh gong 13.04.05 # That is just stupid 13.04.09 # S_a_i_n_t: some translations already omit the (keep out) part 13.04.30 # but nevertheless, grown up people should know when they should follow such a hint. 13.04.35 # the debug menu doesn't actually do dangerous stuff on the targets I know, so just let people fiddle if they want 13.06.26 # if you can't hurt anything in there...then why the (Keep Out!) 13.06.27 # ? 13.07.08 # To stop the repeated questions about what it is for 13.07.14 # And what does this mean etc. 13.07.36 # "Debug (It's there for a reason!)" 13.08.30 # "Debug (RTFM!)" 13.08.36 # :D 13.09.08 # S_a_i_n_t: The "Keep Out!" is essential. It makes sure that (as you said) some people can't help having a look, and some of those then get interested and become developers. It's our main recruiting campaign 13.09.26 # * bluebroth3r giggles 13.09.40 # "Debug (become a Developer!)" 13.09.52 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.09.56 # "Debug (Recruitement inside!)" 13.10.29 # Debug (If you have the mentality of a 3 year old, come on in!) 13.11.43 # now we're just being silly....geeeez guys :D 13.15.14 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p548592FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.18.00 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 13.20.37 # Are FS#10939 or FS#10940 ever going to be accepted? 13.22.17 Quit flydutch (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.23.12 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 13.24.03 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 13.24.24 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host66-209-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.28.02 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.28.32 # I mean that as in is it behaviour that is wanted 13.28.39 # Not why haven't they been :) 13.31.47 Join petur [0] (~peter@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.31.56 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.32.06 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.32.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.38.27 Join yzflcyq [0] (~3a3d2f3e@giant.haxx.se) 13.41.46 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.43.38 # people encouraged the creator here to post the patched 13.43.44 # *patches 13.44.21 # just saying that it might be weird to close them now immidiately again 13.44.46 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-197-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.45.28 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 13.45.44 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 13.47.35 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 13.48.46 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.52.22 # gevaerts: Not all translations have the equivalent to "(Keep out"), e.g. German doesn't 13.52.41 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.55.17 Join tomaw [0] (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) 14.04.03 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24380): fix warnings in s35390 rtc driver 14.04.05 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.06.37 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 14.08.15 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.08.28 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 14.08.40 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54859E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.13.06 Quit yzflcyq (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.16.47 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.18.20 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8EAFE.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.19.54 Join webguest33 [0] (~7aa7f54d@giant.haxx.se) 14.20.43 # Hi, i am thinking to mod a theme for ipod video for my personal use.. can anyone give link o some doc explaining structure of themes?? 14.22.08 # nock knock.. anyone home ? 14.31.45 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 14.39.13 Join mitk [0] (~594e0d92@giant.haxx.se) 14.40.32 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 14.40.38 # webguest33: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS 14.40.53 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.41.51 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.43.56 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.46.33 Quit mitk (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.47.25 Quit webguest33 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.52.53 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4F734.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.53.26 Join TopyMobile_ [0] (~topy@g227212104.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.54.32 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 14.54.39 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~michael@adsl-154-2-109.mcn.bellsouth.net) 14.55.00 Join yzflcyq [0] (~3a3d2f3e@giant.haxx.se) 14.55.44 Quit yzflcyq (Client Quit) 14.57.12 Quit TopyMobile (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.59.28 Join yzflcyq [0] (~5e7db305@giant.haxx.se) 14.59.30 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15.00.44 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.04.27 Quit yzflcyq (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 15.06.27 Join stooo [0] (~sto@g228077218.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.16.26 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 15.23.15 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.24.16 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.28.19 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.28.46 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 15.33.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.38.53 # New commit by 03funman (r24381): Clipv1: estimate current use with battery_bench results 15.39.02 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 15.39.30 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 15.39.53 Join Curtman [0] (~curt@S010600248c269238.wp.shawcable.net) 15.42.54 # I'm trying to run the mini2440 port in qemu, and not having much success.. I can get the bootloader to run, but it starts printing 'sd_read_data: not in Sending-Data state' millions of times when it tries to load from the virtual sd card.. 15.44.28 # My guess is that qemu is more picky than the actual hardware in how the devices are initialized, and rb makes some assumptions that qemu doesn't match.. Does that seem likely, or is this something else? 15.48.11 # does qemu emulate the mini2440 sd controller? 15.49.01 # gevaerts, I'm using the qemu port from buserror, which can emulate the sd, and works when running a linux kernel. 15.49.02 # apparently the fuze draws 40mA while the clipv1 draws 65mA from the battery 15.49.58 # Curtman: there is a lot of different sd controllers, i doubt qemu emulates the mini2440 hardware except for the cpu 15.51.41 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.51.53 # i'm running a battery bench on fuze, will need to make another one with backlight always on to measure the current needed by backlight; and then we'll see correct remaining time estimation 15.52.10 # do we have up to date e200v2 benches ? 15.53.23 # It sure looks like it does... http://repo.or.cz/w/qemu/mini2440.git/blob/e5adca59ae1520033a9a9dca2425aaed30d7e7dc:/hw/sd.c 15.54.17 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.02.05 # Curtman: you could log the calls to send_cmd() in rockbox driver to see what produces this message 16.04.11 Join Omlet [0] (omlet05@171.156-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 16.05.18 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 16.05.50 # funman, Okay. I'm still having trouble getting any useful logging though.. If I build a 'DEBUG' rb, it won't boot at all even on the real hardware.. On the mini itself, can use uart_printf() to get some debug output, but I can't do much else... 16.06.43 # I believe DEBUG builds aren't used much 16.08.04 # I think I'm going to put qemu aside for a while.. I just wondered if maybe someone knew how to solve this error. 16.08.28 # i didn't even know qemu would emulate real boards :/ 16.09.10 # does the mini2440 have a console, so you could interleave qemu debug with debug from rockbox running on the emulated mini2440 ? 16.10.32 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.10.33 # When I boot Linux on it, the console is on the serial port.. There's no bios on it to manage the screen, so it stays dark until the kernel initializes the framebuffer and switches the console to it. 16.11.43 # u-boot also interacts with me on the serial port.. 16.14.54 Quit hebz0rl_ (Remote host closed the connection) 16.16.04 # you could also print sd->current_cmd in "sd_read_data: not in ..." 16.18.16 Join VJ [0] (~7ab1d7e4@giant.haxx.se) 16.19.26 # Hello, can music be played via inbuilt speaker on Ipod nano 2g? 16.19.44 # without using earphones 16.20.49 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@2002:1876:a27b:0:227:13ff:fe65:1262) 16.21.58 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-197-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.24.26 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 16.26.55 Quit Grahack (Quit: Tu m'as vu ?) 16.27.29 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 16.31.35 Join cheekoo [0] (~7aa7f1ca@giant.haxx.se) 16.31.41 # can anyone help with editing a theme file?? 16.37.38 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16.40.28 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 16.40.59 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@dsl63-212.pool.bitel.net) 16.40.59 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 16.40.59 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 16.47.35 # I have a query if someone can answer 16.47.51 # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_hvm-rQGWM 16.48.08 # lol 16.48.25 # can music be played via inbuilt speaker on Ipod nano 2g? 16.49.15 # * bertrik wonders what clip benchmark funman used to estimate current usage 16.50.34 Quit VJ (Quit: CGI:IRC) 16.50.49 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 16.53.46 # A normal current of 65 mA seems awfully high 16.56.58 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.57.51 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.58.38 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.01.31 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3C2E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.01.31 Quit cheekoo (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 17.01.43 # Torne: you there? 17.05.38 Join Strife89DS [0] (~nds@adsl-154-2-109.mcn.bellsouth.net) 17.06.49 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Trying out a Linux distro.) 17.07.04 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54859E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.07.15 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 17.13.47 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 17.13.54 Quit ChanServ (shutting down) 17.16.43 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 17.19.00 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.19.06 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 17.19.06 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by jordan.freenode.net 17.19.06 DBUG sent MODE #rockbox -o ChanServ 17.19.06 *** Server message 484: 'logbot ChanServ #rockbox :Cannot kick or deop a network service' 17.23.33 Join BdN4504 [0] (~4e3436a7@giant.haxx.se) 17.24.39 Join gevaerts-test [0] (~c3905c8c@gateway/web/freenode/x-zcdntupifawmhhio) 17.24.40 Quit BdN4504 (Client Quit) 17.24.44 Join BdN4504 [0] (~4e3436a7@giant.haxx.se) 17.24.44 # test 17.25.13 Mode "#rockbox +o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 17.25.14 # who's responsible for the project news portion of the main page? 17.25.17 Mode "#rockbox -q $~a" by gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 17.25.22 # test 17.25.28 Mode "#rockbox -o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 17.25.47 Quit gevaerts-test (Client Quit) 17.27.35 Quit BdN4504 (Client Quit) 17.31.47 Quit Buschel () 17.33.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.34.44 Join TopyMobile__ [0] (~topy@f054164147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.35.11 Quit AlexP (Quit: Please insert girder) 17.35.32 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.35.57 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 17.38.56 Quit TopyMobile_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.43.34 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.44.50 Part Guest43500 ("Leaving") 17.49.03 Join scip [0] (~3eeb83ed@giant.haxx.se) 17.49.09 # hi all 17.49.25 # hello 17.49.32 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 17.50.10 # I was prepairing my ipod for my trip to NYC and placed Rockbox on my ipod nano 1st gen, everything went great until I formated the ipod (I wanted to make sure that there where no songs from itunes etc where on it) 17.50.15 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 17.50.28 # when I boot ipod it says ofc that it can't find rockbox.ipod 17.50.31 # You need to reinstall Rockbox, it is stored on the main disk 17.50.40 # When you formatted it you also removed Rockbox 17.50.44 # uhu 17.50.55 # but the problem is that I can't see it in my explorer... 17.51.08 # Enter diskmode 17.51.10 # it looks like my pc doesnt recognise the device 17.51.18 # SELECT+PLAY it says indeed 17.51.22 # Reboot with menu + select, then immediately hold menu+play 17.51.30 # sorry, select+play 17.51.33 # ow immediatly 17.51.56 # aha!!! 17.51.58 # lovely thx 17.52.16 # didnt know I had to do it that fast :) 17.55.51 # btw to all the developpers, you did a great job making that firmware!! Apple should hire you so you can change the crappy iTunes etc :) 17.58.59 Quit _zic (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.59.02 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 17.59.20 Join _zic [0] (~user@83-156-152-52.rev.libertysurf.net) 18.02.42 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r24382): Implement ipod_scsi_inquiry() on OS X. ... 18.05.11 Quit sinuc (Changing host) 18.05.11 Join sinuc [0] (~sinuc@unaffiliated/sinuc) 18.05.35 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.05.38 Quit advcomp2019 (Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad) 18.09.13 Quit Llorean (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.10.16 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-154-2-109.mcn.bellsouth.net) 18.11.08 # hey 18.11.18 # I replaced the hd on this iriver h10 5gb I got off ebay as is 18.11.41 # it's in great shape just the hd was canucked (well it reported missing system files and the hd never spun up once with my ear to it) 18.11.52 # the rockbox firmware for that, is it going to spaz on the drive size change 18.12.08 # I would assume that would only be the case if you were using some kinda of dd'd disk image hack 18.12.15 Quit Strife89DS (Quit: ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS) 18.12.20 # rockbox doesn't care about the size of disks 18.12.29 # that's what I thought, just making sure 18.15.07 # well, there are exceptions such as needing a LBA48 build for 128GB+ disks, but that's about it 18.16.54 Join CaptainKewl [0] (jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 18.19.49 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.22.12 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 18.23.58 Join Guest33783 [0] (~me@pool-173-75-5-88.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 18.25.12 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 18.27.37 Quit rphillips (Changing host) 18.27.38 Join rphillips [0] (~rphillips@unaffiliated/rphillips) 18.27.38 Quit scip (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.29.15 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 18.30.07 # hmm. Anyone familiar with the nano2g around? I'm trying to fake a nano2g, but simply writing the firmware file to partition 0 of an ipod layout disk doesn't work -- ipodpatcher complains about a missing OSOS image 18.30.12 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitr88@BSN-182-49-235.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 18.31.12 Quit Guest33783 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.32.36 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.32.37 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.34.50 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54859E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.34.56 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.35.01 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitr88@89.142.52.193) 18.38.57 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 18.42.15 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 18.42.31 # bertrik: about the clip, i have 5h30 runtime 18.43.18 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.44.05 Join n00b81 [0] (~taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 18.44.52 Join tarbo_ [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 18.46.28 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 18.47.45 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54859E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.50.31 Quit n00b81 (Changing host) 18.50.31 Join n00b81 [0] (~taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 18.52.12 Quit tarbo_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.53.30 # gevaerts, I wasn't sure if they had to use a disk image hack to get around some vendor firmware 18.53.34 # if adding anything was locked out 18.53.44 # only reason I thought there might be a chance it cares about disk size 19.00.55 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 19.02.20 Part n00b81 ("Cyaz") 19.03.31 # funman, oh that's pretty bad :/, never measured my clip's runtime 19.03.57 # but it seemed a bit more 19.06.03 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 19.07.34 # SansaRuntime doesn't list clip runtime 19.07.59 # btw where does the battery capacity come from ? 350mA for clip and 550 for fuz 19.08.00 # e* 19.08.12 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host66-209-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.08.37 # B4gder: Do you have dns privileges for rockbox.org? If so, could you set up translate.rockbox.org to point at the scorche's server (same as themes.)? 19.12.47 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19.13.57 Quit ps-auxw (Quit: leaving) 19.14.10 Quit advcomp2019 (Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.) 19.14.18 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 19.14.55 Join dedelvis [0] (~50658df8@giant.haxx.se) 19.16.48 Quit dedelvis (Client Quit) 19.16.51 Join dedelvis [0] (~50658df8@giant.haxx.se) 19.17.08 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 19.17.08 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.18.06 # i can't think why the clip would drain more batteries than the fuze 19.18.31 # perhaps more heavy buffer operations 19.19.01 # or they went with shitter lithum batteries 19.19.10 # some of them rate their battery with only a led attached 19.19.14 # so 800mah is really 300 etc 19.19.41 # rockbox performs massively worse on the clip than on the fuze compared to OF 19.21.20 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.6) 19.21.23 Quit dedelvis (Client Quit) 19.21.28 Quit Sajber^ (Quit: Leaving.) 19.21.43 Quit TheSeven (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]) 19.22.36 # funman, I looked at the battery code number from the manufacturer ATL. I couldn't find it, so I made an educated guess from other batteries from with similar width/height/length 19.22.52 Quit chaos (Quit: Lost terminal) 19.24.14 # 65mA is relative to the battery capacity, with a DMM plugged on the battery we could confirm the battery capacity 19.25.00 Join chaos [0] (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 19.26.10 # i have a sansa fuze with firmware v02.01.09f would rockbox work on it? would it ID the version *(i understand there are 2 versions of the fuze) it's wheel is sticking and i'm getting another so i want to play with it's functionality under rockbox 19.26.50 # m3dlg: no, it won't work 19.26.58 # oh well 19.27.04 # back to the drawing boad 19.28.20 # I have a warfdale model coming soon, to play with, i will be getting a zen after feb, would the warfdale work? it's less capable than the sansa, very cheap. 19.28.47 # m3dlg: all the supported models are on the front page of rockbox.org 19.29.04 Join Guest57010 [0] (~me@pool-173-75-5-88.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 19.29.45 # also 19.29.47 # ok 19.29.55 # one thing that really sucks ass about lithium ion and polymer 19.30.01 # actually plenty of things that suck about them 19.30.07 # is they tend to start losing capacity pretty quick 19.30.20 # they don't age gracefully like nicd or nimh or even lead acid 19.30.36 # although I have noticed on pda's and some cell phones 19.30.40 # they seem to hold out for yrs 19.30.49 # but in laptops etc they just fucking suck 19.31.07 # mine already noticed a loss of capacity in the battery rating after 2 yrs and it's almost always on ac 19.31.36 # * flyback can;t wait till lithium phosphate and lithium iron phosphate become the norm 19.31.54 # * funman pushes flyback to #rockbox-community 19.32.34 # hey he was talking about batteries :) 19.33.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.36.04 Quit Guest57010 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.36.32 Join Grahack [0] (~Grahack@ip-222.net-82-216-222.rev.numericable.fr) 19.37.45 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-81-175.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.37.52 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 19.39.38 Join Bozax [0] (~3eeb83ed@giant.haxx.se) 19.40.21 # is there a way to set max volume on rockbox? so that I can't put the volume higher then a given volume? 19.40.48 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 19.44.03 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.44.22 Quit gevaerts (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by gevaerts_!~fg@195-144-092-158.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be))) 19.44.34 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 19.44.44 Join efyx_ [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 19.44.53 # Bozax: No (well yes, via work arounds) 19.44.55 # rasher: translate.rockbox.org has been added 19.45.08 # Bozax: You could set the equaliser pre-cut 19.45.08 # hurray 19.45.27 # Bozax: Which would lower it by that amount, but you can't just limit the volume 19.47.11 Quit ps-auxw (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.48.00 Join TheSeven [0] (~theseven@stgt-5f7394e3.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.48.43 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 19.49.14 # hmm ok AlexP thx 19.50.05 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 19.51.57 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 19.56.59 # mc2739: the runtime of e200v2 is still about 11h30 ? 19.57.33 # funman: Just started one 2 hrs ago 19.59.39 # funman: I have not really tested since I last posted on the runtime wiki page. I will start a new test with current svn and post my results when completed 19.59.42 # can you do another one with backlight always on when it's done ? 20.00.04 # funman, we're already doing quite a lot to limit current consumption, right? like stopping clocks for pcm and sd when not used. 20.00.11 # (on the clip I mean) 20.00.35 Quit TheSeven (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]) 20.00.38 # funman: will do 20.01.16 # yes for sd, i don't remember if the code works for pcm 20.01.56 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 20.01.59 # hi 20.02.04 # according to the debug menu it works 20.02.17 # is there any place where i can get the current development build of the firmware for ipod nano? 20.02.43 # i don't see it in the nano2g package form build.rockbox.org 20.02.44 Join TheSeven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.02.59 # there is no development build 20.03.14 # what you see on build.rockbox.org is what everyone gets 20.03.21 Quit moos (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.03.32 # piotrekm: You want the current build 20.03.42 # piotrekm: It is rebuilt on every code change 20.03.45 # AlexP: is the bootloader there too? 20.04.00 # No 20.04.12 # You would need to build that yourself 20.04.28 # But that doesn't tend to change often 20.05.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#2_OSOS_contains_Rockbox_and_the tells that i need something newer than in the ipodpatcher 20.05.17 # I don't know when it was last changed for the nano 2g - more recently than for stable ones 20.05.25 # piotrekm: Ah yes, for that you do 20.05.34 # piotrekm: So you would need to build that 20.05.44 # We don't do regular builds of the bootloaders 20.06.18 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DDC7D13.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.06.25 # AlexP: there are rumors that the svn nano2g is broken 20.06.59 # TheSeven: OK - it is a safe bootloader though isn't it? i.e. even if it is broken, a restore is the worst outcome? 20.07.15 Join adjfa94j03ew [0] (~david@65-37-16-236.nrp3.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 20.07.32 # AlexP: nope, even better 20.07.52 # you need to uninstall it using ipodpatcher and (if you want to) reinstall a working one 20.07.56 # no need to even restore 20.07.56 # cool 20.08.09 # As long as it isn't a H100/H300 is what I was really getting at :) 20.08.27 # TheSeven: svn nano2g, meaning the bootloader, or the whole rockbox? 20.08.33 # bootloader 20.08.41 # oh, that's ok 20.09.11 # somebody reported that the released one worked for him, but the svn one didn't, even though I can't see why 20.09.18 # what is the purpose of the description of lang strings? should they give the translators a hint how to translate the string? 20.09.25 # as I am not using the rockbox bootloader at all, I didn't yet bother to find out 20.09.52 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 20.11.06 # TheSeven: but you don't own a nano2g, do you? 20.11.25 # piotrekm: TheSeven did the port pretty much 20.12.51 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.13.18 # piotrekm: I am the main nano2g deveoper 20.13.24 # developer, even 20.13.41 # TheSeven: sorry, then;) 20.13.49 # so of course i own one, but i prefer to use iloader instead of the rockbox bootloader 20.14.22 # but the iloader requires selecting preferred firmware at each boot, right? 20.14.32 # yup 20.14.35 # mainly because this allows me to boot to ibugger very quickly, and as you have to reboot the ipod very often when using ibugger... i think the rest is self-explaining 20.15.11 # piotrekm: actually that's what I like so much about iloader 20.15.22 # yeah, for a developer it seems perfect. i want to get to to my music the fastest i can;> 20.15.33 # but yes, I understand why this is not really comfortable for an end user 20.15.47 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20.16.32 # New commit by 03stripwax (r24383): ARM-optimised fft4. Vorbis now only 1.4MHz slower than trunk 20.16.39 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.17.05 # and what about this error when i try to do 'ipodpatcher -wf rockbox.ipod' ? : "Model name in input file (nn2g) doesn't match ipod model (nn2x)" 20.17.36 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.18.08 # ^mdctexp branch 20.20.45 Quit _zic (Remote host closed the connection) 20.20.59 # why is vorbis with the "optimization" slower? 20.21.30 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 20.21.34 # ah, sorry :) 20.29.00 # is it safe to replace the single byte on the beginning of rockbox.ipod to make the version nn2x? 20.29.53 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 20.30.58 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.31.04 Quit amiconn (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by amiconn_))) 20.31.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.31.12 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.31.13 Quit pixelma (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by pixelma_))) 20.31.29 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.31.30 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.36.15 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.36.16 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.40.00 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.40.52 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4F734.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.41.27 # piotrekm: x means encrypted i think 20.42.29 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber@c-9c3471d5.012-155-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.42.30 # apparently, it didn't work this way 20.43.18 Quit Sajber^ (Client Quit) 20.46.57 Join martian67 [0] (martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) 20.49.31 Part dmb ("Leaving") 20.49.56 # but, the rockbox wiki says the firmware files get ncrypted on ipod, so the rockbox.ipod should get loaded 20.50.18 # apart from the fat that the very same file works smoothly with the rockbox bootloader 20.50.59 # *fact 20.51.09 Quit Bozax (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.52.04 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 20.53.02 Quit kaniini (Quit: E.T. go home.) 20.54.25 Quit martian67 (Quit: Leaving) 20.54.27 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.54.36 Join martian67 [0] (martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) 20.56.04 # igay 20.56.06 # inazi 20.56.12 # iallyourmusicbelongstous 20.56.13 Join Bjelleklang [0] (~Bjellekla@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) 20.57.16 # piotrekm: which wiki page? 20.58.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IPodNano2GPort#Port_Status - "Bootloader binaries are encrypted on an ipod using the crypt_firmware viewer plugin" 20.59.51 # piotrekm: "using the crypt_firmware viewer plugin" 21.00.27 # but earlier it says 'on an ipod', the part quoted by you doesn't tell me much 21.00.31 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.00.36 # piotrekm: this means you need to encrypt the file within rockbox 21.00.54 # ah 21.01.10 # and afterwards you can upload it to the ipod 21.01.27 # so... the same thing is required with the rockbox.ipod? 21.02.00 Part flyback ("Leaving") 21.07.16 Quit Jaykay (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.07.34 # yay, worked, thanks liar 21.07.38 # :) 21.09.22 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 21.13.10 Join kaniini [0] (~kaniini65@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 21.17.32 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 21.21.39 Join _zic [0] (~user@83-156-152-52.rev.libertysurf.net) 21.22.29 Quit _zic (Client Quit) 21.23.09 Join _zic [0] (~user@83-156-152-52.rev.libertysurf.net) 21.23.47 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.24.35 Quit _zic (Client Quit) 21.24.53 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.27.10 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.27.35 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@70.236.75.75) 21.27.45 Join _zic [0] (~user@83-156-152-52.rev.libertysurf.net) 21.31.45 Join saratoga [0] (~463f90ed@gateway/web/freenode/x-gfifvgsautqokxan) 21.33.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.34.34 # stripwax: what was wrong with my original attempt to ASM that code? 21.34.39 # i never figured out why it glitched 21.37.29 # saratoga - I dunno - but I don't think I ever actually saw it ! :-) 21.37.46 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 21.38.02 # oh you did that from scratch? 21.38.13 # yep 21.38.15 # nice 21.38.20 # thanks! :) 21.38.40 # Does Rockbox automagically start charging the player when I plug it in in the multimedia mode? (Nano2g) 21.38.53 # yeah 21.38.55 # It's been plugged in for something like an hour now but I haven't seen the battery indicator move at all :s 21.39.02 # http://hardwarebug.org/2010/01/30/bit-field-badness/ 21.39.08 # makes me want to try this arm compiler 21.40.24 # where would one get hold of armcc ? 21.40.48 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.41.28 # One thing to note about my asm - I did it as a #define so that gcc can still schedule the registers appropriately, and I only use one additional register (r12, which is scratch anyway). But I'm pretty sure with some reordering it would be possible to do fft4 without any additional registers (just Address in one register, and 8 registers for the loads/saves) 21.42.17 # I'm taking a look at the (pretty ugly) code generated by TRANSFORM macros and seeing how to improve those first, before I even begin to attempt any hand optimisation of fft8/fft16 21.42.56 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r24384): PBell vibe 500: fix the modelname (first commit test) 21.44.03 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.46.23 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 21.47.04 # jho: it will charge slower than normal though (max current draw: 100mA) 21.47.21 # but you can change that in the power management settings 21.47.44 # yeah TRANSFORM is likely to be a mess 21.48.39 # i remember the old complex multiply asm code was a lot shorter then what gcc generated back when we used the original ffmpeg fft 21.48.42 # TheSeven: Okay, thanks :) 21.48.57 # Is there a reason why it's set to a slower value by default? 21.49.04 # i have no idea how you get the arm compiler, probably by spending a lot of money 21.49.06 Quit Bjelleklang (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Bjelleklang_!~Bjellekla@19.80-202-156.nextgentel.com))) 21.49.25 # ah 21.50.01 # jho: because I was too lazy to figure out how to properly enumerate how much power is available at the usb port 21.50.34 # and 100mA is sufficient to charge even while transferring data, so this kind of a "failsafe default" 21.50.50 # Okay 21.51.38 # settings => general => system => car adapter mode: yes, settings => general => system => battery => charge during usb connection: yes 21.51.49 # this will make it always draw 500mA 21.52.27 # Thanks :) 21.52.48 # (this will probably fail on bus-powered hubs of course) 21.53.14 # piotrekm: I can't see any reason why rockbox.ipod should ever be encrypted 21.54.16 # its weird arm doesn't give out the compiler alone for free like TI, Intel, etc do 21.54.25 # TheSeven: me too now, i got to it a while ago. i encrypted the firmware on the ipod uploaded it with ipodpatcher, without problems 21.54.55 # i didnt understand why it works without encryption, now i do 21.54.57 # firmware = what? 21.55.13 # TheSeven: oh, sorry, i meant rockbox.ipod 21.55.59 # did you say that you encrypted rockbox.ipod and installed that as a bootloader? 21.56.07 # this could actually even work :-D 21.56.45 # no, not as a bootloader, but without bootloader 21.56.49 # no ipod firmware on the ipod now 21.57.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#4_OSOS_contains_only_Rockbox 21.57.24 Quit utchybann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.57.31 # and boots extremely fast 21.57.54 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 21.59.02 Quit Farthen (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Farthen_!~chatzilla@e176129212.adsl.alicedsl.de))) 21.59.28 Join Farthen_ [0] (~chatzilla@e176129212.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.59.30 Nick Farthen_ is now known as Farthen (~chatzilla@e176129212.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.03.53 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.07.26 # TheSeven: My only question now is, is there any hope the speed of usb file transfer will improve? 22.09.55 # piotrekm: regarding the bootloader: on nano2g, osos will always only contain the bootloader (or in your case rockbox itself) 22.10.13 # i was a little surprised to see people using that, as it was never tested (at least not by me) 22.10.27 # lol 22.10.45 # regarding file transfer speed: we could speed that up by a factor of the nand bank count (usually factor 4 on 8GB ipods) 22.10.55 # but that would complicate the code a lot 22.11.21 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r24385): PBell vibe 500: ROLO fix 22.12.16 # New commit by 03rasher (r24386): Remove a link that makes no sense. 22.13.26 # piotrekm: That ipodpatcher page is mainly talking about the older ipods. Not everything will apply to the Nano2G. 22.14.31 # linuxstb: obviously it works nevertheless :-D 22.15.21 # TheSeven: Yes, that option works. I'm pretty sure I've tried it. 22.16.59 # and is it possible to make rockbox turn off when ,say, 15% battery is left? last time when rockbox turned off, after turning on again i got a battery icon and the whole data was got, got to reinit the ipod 22.17.18 # *when it turned off because battery was loq 22.17.22 # *w 22.17.48 # you can change the low battery level 22.17.54 # that will cause rockbox to power off sooner 22.18.08 # i don't recall where it is in /firmware though 22.18.21 Quit Grahack (Quit: Tu m'as vu ?) 22.18.44 # saratoga: you mean recompile? 22.18.49 # yes 22.19.06 # it would be nice to see it in settings some time in the future 22.19.09 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 22.19.26 # piotrekm: firmware/target/arm/s5l8700/ipodnano2g/powermgmt-nano2g.c 22.19.47 # New commit by 03rasher (r24387): Set svn properties, and use svn:external to fetch the langfiles. This should ... 22.21.17 # piotrekm: something like that would not go into settings 22.21.52 # its either a work around for a bug (which should be fixed), or the setting itself is wrong (and thus changing the code is the bugfix) 22.22.14 # bluebroth3r: Nice ipodpatcher commit ;) 22.22.35 # in this case it's rather my old battery, which suddenly cuts the power is suppose 22.22.43 # I can't seem to get `ipodpatcher -wf rockbox.ipod` to work with my nano2g.. I'm getting "[ERR] Model name in input file (nn2g) doesn't match ipod model (nn2x)" 22.22.45 Quit _zic (Remote host closed the connection) 22.23.02 # but what makes me wonder is that in original firmware this thing happened and data wasn't lost 22.23.05 # However the same rockbox.ipod works fine with the "normal" installation 22.23.33 # jho: got the same problem a while ago 22.24.00 # I'm guessing I have to change the rockbox.ipod model name somewhere? 22.24.18 # load rockbox the usual way, find the rockbox.ipod file and open it with crypt_firmware 22.24.38 # it will generate a file rockbox.ipodx, which you can use with ipodpatcher 22.24.48 # Where can I find crypt_firmware? 22.24.55 Join b0hoon2 [0] (~57697ed5@giant.haxx.se) 22.25.04 # it already is on rockbox 22.25.11 # it's a plugin 22.25.18 Join b0hoon [0] (~57697ed5@giant.haxx.se) 22.25.19 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 22.25.19 # Ah 22.25.25 # long-hold select -> open with... and you'll find it 22.25.30 # piotrekm: are you sure your battery was even empty when that happened? 22.25.55 # that "empty battery" icon is norboot's way of telling that something went terribly wrong. 22.26.02 # oh 22.26.13 # once it happened when battery was about to discharge 22.26.27 # even if the battery is fully charged, but some on-flash structures of the FTL are borked, it will keep displaying that :-) 22.26.29 # but before it happened when i tried to reboot not knowing hot to exit pegbox game 22.26.35 # piotrekm: long-hold select? Where? Do I need to have the rockbox.ipod somewhere outside of .rockbox on my nano? 22.26.58 # jho: no, if you make rockbox display all the files 22.27.18 # Ah, right 22.27.20 # Thanks 22.27.43 # Hm. "File too big. Plugin returned error" 22.28.04 # Hi. 22.28.44 # TheSeven: ever experienced the same thing? 22.28.51 # jho: strange. mine worked 22.29.02 # you mean the "dead battery" display? 22.29.08 # Why after my commit the sysfont.h file has dissapeared for the Iriver H300 Sim? Please look at the build table. 22.29.14 # bluebroth3r: Do you think it's possible to fix that code so it finds the specified device? 22.29.18 # that happened dozens of times to me while I was trying to make the FTL work 22.29.41 # My rockbox.ipod is 564K btw 22.30.01 Quit b0hoon2 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 22.30.08 # b0hoon: I would blame that on the build client 22.30.19 # b0hoon: sysfont.h errors normally mean something is broken in the build client, but I forget what... 22.30.22 # just wait for the next commit and it will probably fix itself 22.30.24 # TheSeven: any ideas how to avoid it during normal use;> ? 22.30.48 # piotrekm: it will sometimes happen if rockbox crashes (or is rebootet by holding menu+select) 22.30.52 Join herrwaldo [0] (~waldo@ip-81-11-192-119.dsl.scarlet.be) 22.30.53 # you can't do anything about that 22.30.59 # but it shouldn't happen otherwise 22.31.15 # b0hoon, congratulations with your first commits 22.31.30 # Uh, that's what i thought ufff... I didn't even touched it 22.31.45 # the build system unfortunately isn't perfect 22.31.45 # thanks for the answer 22.32.03 # bertrik: thank you 22.32.08 # gevaerts: to whom does "titan-obo" belong? 22.32.16 # is the part after the dash always an IRC nick? 22.32.16 # obo? 22.32.27 # TheSeven: it is 22.34.01 # b0hoon: can you add yourself to docs/COMMITTERS? 22.35.30 # yes of course 22.37.44 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r24388): Add myself to the commiters list 22.38.36 # b0hoon: Welcome :) 22.38.50 # rasher: translate.rockbox.org looks good :) 22.39.09 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 22.39.10 # rasher: It is rather short notice now, but do you think a translations call is worthwhile? 22.39.16 # * gevaerts feels that he can now properly welcome b0hoon :) 22.39.25 # jho: my rockbox.ipod is 562KB , rockbox.ipodx 564KB 22.39.56 # AlexP: can't hurt - maybe put in a note that even if they don't make it in time for this release, the next is never far away 22.40.10 # I must admit I rather forgot about sending one 22.40.31 # As the translation meister will you, or would you prefer me to? 22.40.53 # AlexP: Hi! thanks. :) 22.41.19 # AlexP: Please go ahead :) I note that you've been doing the work anyway 22.41.27 # Hehe, not quite :) 22.41.32 # But OK, will do 22.41.35 # The tracker is squeeky clean 22.41.42 # I have an update for German almost ready - just need to adapt to the sbs changes and wanted to have a review 22.41.45 # Well, almost 22.42.04 # I did notice a commit where blue_dude changed the source string in all languages. Bad form 22.42.37 # When's the release? 22.43.19 # Good... no reds this time :) 22.43.52 # rasher: Tuesday is the schedule 22.44.29 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 22.44.39 # JdGordon: ping 22.44.39 # New commit by 03tomers (r24389): Hebrew language update 22.45.32 Quit tarbo (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.50.21 # rasher: Do you normally send to the user list as well? 22.50.31 # AlexP: yep 22.50.41 # Hmmm, I'm not subscribed to that 22.50.48 # I might regret signing up :) 22.50.54 # But here goes... 22.51.15 # AlexP: you can tell it to not send anything to you 22.51.32 # gevaerts: ah, excellent 22.55.09 Quit tomers (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) 22.59.36 Join tarbo [0] (~me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 22.59.58 # now what... 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