--- Log for 07.02.110 Server: jordan.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 14 hours ago 00.01.10 # Hmm, maybe not 00.01.14 # * amiconn is confused 00.01.23 # bluebroth3r: wild guess: mac 10.5 defaults to utf8 as its local 8bit encoding ? 00.02.12 # domonoky: maybe. 00.02.54 # but that would be kinda bad, as some of the underlying APIs still use "old" encodings. And I need to convert to that ... 00.03.36 # my test program works fine if I put umlauts in the string in Mac Roman encoding. But it seems that Qt doesn't even return a proper QTextCodec for Mac Roman :( 00.03.51 # the documentation says it's supported :/ 00.08.24 # It is utf-8, but the multibyte chars seem to be all wrong 00.12.19 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.12.42 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 00.14.43 # bluebroth3r: *All* non-ascii characters in that file are encoded as the utf-8 sequence EF BF BD, which translates to character 0xFFDD, and that charr is undefined 00.15.52 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 00.16.31 Quit togetic (Client Quit) 00.17.24 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.18.29 # Sorry, it's 0xFFFD, and that's explicitly the no-such-char char 00.18.54 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 00.20.24 Join baptiste_ [0] (~chatzilla@vir91-12-78-231-137-156.fbx.proxad.net) 00.20.43 # amiconn: interesting. So that translation is completely broken iiuc 00.20.49 # yep 00.21.30 Join PaulJam_ [0] (~Paule@p54BEF2D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.21.36 # we could simply drop it. It has 44% of the string translated, only chinese is worse. 00.23.44 # a web translation tool for rbutil would be great ... 00.24.55 # Hi! I have installed rockbox on my Ipod, but I don't know how to transfer music / podcast or video. Does Banshee application (or Rythmbox, Amarok,...) kepp on being useful when Rockbox is installed or is there an other way? Thanks! 00.25.23 Quit piotrekm () 00.25.25 # baptiste_: Do whatever you want 00.26.05 # baptiste_: You can then either browse by filename, or use a tag-based database 00.27.17 # AlexP_, in which repertory can I copy / paste via Ipod's folders? 00.27.23 Quit Adub-- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.27.45 # baptiste_: Anywhere you want (although it is best to avoid /.rockbox 00.28.21 # baptiste_: put the files anywhere you want. Rockbox does not care about it. If you want to you can keep using Itunes / and Itunes compatible program (but then you'd need to use the database as Itunes scrambles the filenames) 00.28.32 # AlexP, In "/media/IPOD (HP_AD" repertory directly? 00.28.42 # If you like :) 00.29.00 # You can put it anywhere you like in any organisation you like 00.29.10 # Rockbox really doesn't care, live the free life 00.29.24 # AlexP, And what about the former data (Itunes organization...)? 00.29.45 # If you aren't going to use the Apple firmware then you can delete it 00.31.01 # As bluebroth3r said, if you want to continue using the Apple firmware then you will need to transfer the music with something itunes compatible. This will scramble the filenames, so you will not be able to browse by filename and will have to use the Rockbox database 00.32.06 # AlexP, I will try to make simple, as free & simple Rockbox seems to be! 00.32.16 # hehe, good luck :) 00.33.46 # saratoga: i have a h300 give me the binary and tell me what to test if you want 00.34.01 # perfectdrug: have you used test_codec before? 00.34.54 # no:( 00.35.08 # its a viewer that can be used to benchmark files 00.35.19 # i thought its a viewer yeah 00.35.50 # can you compile stock svn builds? 00.35.55 # yes 00.37.03 # would you try benchmarking this file: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/wma_192.wma 00.37.23 # using stock SVN (but with "test_codec.c" added to apps/plugins/SOURCES 00.37.35 # so that test_codec is available 00.37.56 # it seems that the mdct branch isn't compiling on coldfire at the moment, i'll see if i can fix it in the meantime 00.38.18 # ok will do 00.44.44 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@gate-20.spsu.edu) 00.46.29 # perfectdrug: http://duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/h300_mdct.7z 00.46.38 # first try it to make sure that WMA file decodes correctly 00.50.15 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 00.51.29 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.51.34 Join Adub- [0] (~Rotting@xplr-ts-t11-208-114-159-122.barrettxplore.com) 00.52.32 # stripwax: ping 00.52.41 Quit arbingordon (Quit: `) 01.01.23 Quit ender` (Quit: Women and Cats will do as they please. Men and dogs had better get used to it. -- Robert Heinlein) 01.03.15 Quit bertrik (Quit: De groeten) 01.03.33 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 01.08.28 Quit baptiste_ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) 01.08.58 # Am I the only one who is shocked by the implementation of strncasecmp ? This is clearly suboptimal, both is size and in speed 01.16.30 Join baptiste_ [0] (~chatzilla@vir91-12-78-231-137-156.fbx.proxad.net) 01.17.01 # linuxstb: i just flashed iloader to the nor, it works :-D 01.17.44 # (of course I lose things like disk- and diagmode, and FTL recovery that way) 01.18.20 # saratoga: stock svn http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3727/dump100207011702.png mdct branch http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6320/dump100207012134mdct.png 01.18.23 # alexp, it is extra - just copy / paste and the files appear! (and it works). But now, I wonder whick format is available for video? .avi for example? 01.18.42 # mpeg 1/2 01.18.54 # see www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer 01.19.39 # there is still a lot of work to be done though 01.19.52 # ok. and i have read somewhere taht the apply "avidemux" is a way to convert .avi to .mpeg1/2, is'nt? 01.20.10 # we need to make that thing more bulletproof, implement the other lcd types, and think of a boot menu / a way to launch things like diskmode 01.20.17 # and of course of a way to install all this 01.20.41 # baptiste_: I don't know. There are some recomendations on that page. 01.20.52 # alexp, thank you 01.21.10 # no problem 01.22.17 # theseven, I just want to say that the simplicity of a copy/paste is exactly what I was looking in installating rockbox on my ipod. I can't regret!! 01.22.39 # perfectdrug: thanks, good to know 01.24.34 # and another question is what will happen if itunes tries to update such a hacked ipod 01.25.10 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 01.25.44 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 01.26.52 # Does itunes even recognise such an ipod? 01.27.06 # yes, it will 01.27.35 # we could of course make it unrecognizable by removing dualboot and changing the device id, and such things 01.28.18 # but dualboot with a hacked norboot will obviously cause trouble at some point 01.32.24 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.32.51 # Is there anyone here against some optimisation in strncasecmp ? 01.35.02 # http://pastebin.com/m3ed93773 01.35.10 # does this ASM block really only declare one output? 01.36.31 # yes 01.36.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.36.48 # i think that is wrong then, although it does work 01.36.52 # since x and y are the return values 01.37.21 # x and y are pointers, judging from that code 01.37.49 # New commit by 03pamaury (r24542): Optimize (size and speed) strncasecmp (based on a newlib patch). 01.37.58 # The block writes the results for x and y there. The (only) output is the advanced 'a' pointer 01.38.05 Join arbingordon [0] (w@c-71-226-248-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 01.38.15 # That's why the block mentions 'memory' in its clobber list 01.38.25 # ah of course 01.39.34 # i see the XNPROD31_R macro operates on direct values, while XNPROD31 is on pointers 01.39.39 # Actually 'a' isn't a pointer, it's an input value that is declared to be an output as well because it is used as a scratch reg 01.40.55 # * amiconn guesses the _R has an actual meaning... 01.42.57 # stripwax: (for the logs) the new mdctlib is only 1.5MHz slower on Coldfire, and thats using the non-ASM XNPROD31_R macros 01.43.34 # also FWIW the XNPROD31_R commits broke coldfire 01.44.14 # hehe, nice green delta 01.45.01 # I guess this is an attempt to speed things up. If x and y need to be stored in memory, interleaving the stores with retrieving the values from the emac accumulators reduces pipeline stalling 01.46.21 # amiconn: I don't know a thing about Coldfire ASM, i was just trying to fix a compiler error so we could benchmark 01.46.41 # if you're interested, I could tell you exactly what needs to be in ASM to make the library much faster on CF though 01.47.18 # its actually not very much 01.49.42 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.02.25 Quit vegtoruci (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.02.26 Quit mt_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.02.32 Quit baptiste_ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) 02.04.42 Join vegtoruci [0] (~vegtoruci@pool-96-246-120-217.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 02.05.24 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 02.13.34 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EFBD7.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.15.11 Quit robin0800 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 02.15.33 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 02.17.01 Quit arbingordon (Quit: `) 02.21.37 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.25.02 Join arbingordon [0] (w@c-71-226-248-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.32.17 Join soap [0] (~4cb54aea@giant.haxx.se) 02.42.38 Quit soap (Changing host) 02.42.38 Join soap [0] (~4cb54aea@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.55.57 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/WinterChipV =o) 03.06.23 Quit PaulJam_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.19.45 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.22.08 Quit rasher (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.25.08 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 03.25.08 Quit rasher (Changing host) 03.25.08 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 03.25.50 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@m475e36d0.tmodns.net) 03.36.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.45.25 Quit moos (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]) 03.52.25 Quit elcan (Quit: leaving) 03.52.37 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 03.53.03 # pixelma: amiconn: can one of you please test FS#10853 on a hwcodec+radio target? I'm probably not going to keep nagging and will just assume it works when its ready on swcodec 03.54.14 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9C55.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.58.02 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.59.54 # ok, I will nag once more when its not 3am your time :p 04.00.11 Join baptiste [0] (~chatzilla@vir91-12-78-231-137-156.fbx.proxad.net) 04.01.13 Quit baptiste (Client Quit) 04.02.51 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8EF29.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.05.13 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.06.00 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 04.17.34 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133108225.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 04.20.02 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.22.18 Quit dmb (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.25.31 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.25.44 Join The_Seven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.25.55 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.29.46 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 04.34.17 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.50.49 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.52.22 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@gssn-5f755832.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.53.54 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.56.01 Join dmb [0] (~Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 04.58.35 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 04.59.12 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Bed.) 05.01.58 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p5797C8C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.02.55 Quit DerPapst1 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.07.13 Join Guest23293 [0] (~n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 05.07.58 Quit n17ikh (Disconnected by services) 05.08.03 Quit Guest23293 (Client Quit) 05.08.20 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 05.10.49 Quit Tomis (Quit: Tomis) 05.14.16 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 05.27.32 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.33.03 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 05.36.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.52.35 Join wind [0] (~7ba9867b@giant.haxx.se) 05.53.11 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.70) 06.00.05 Join |DaMaGeD| [0] (~dam@85.26.234.227) 06.03.39 Quit |DaMaGeD| (Client Quit) 06.04.04 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: [St.] has exited mIRC™) 06.06.53 Quit arbingordon (Quit: `) 06.10.06 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.70) 06.10.07 Quit FlynDice (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.13.09 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 06.15.48 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 06.17.18 Join shodan45 [0] (~chris@adsl-068-212-080-078.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) 06.18.09 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 06.22.55 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 06.23.39 # does rockbox run on an OS, or does it run on the bare hardware? 06.29.09 # I have a sansa fuze, what cpu arch should I use to build rockbox? 06.33.29 Join arbingordon [0] (w@c-71-226-248-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 06.34.32 # shodan45, rockbox is the firmware, it's not like a programming running on an operating system 06.34.37 # and the fuze would be arm 06.35.41 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.85.75) 06.37.17 # krazykit, ok, but does rockbox support things like multitasking, etc? 06.37.36 # and thx on the arm cpu 06.40.37 # well, you can listen to music and play certain games at the same time, so i guess that counts 06.44.45 # hm, would running a "normal" OS like linux drain the battery, etc. of an mp3 player? 06.45.22 # I do have some experience with angstrom & openembedded... 06.47.09 # well that's getting offtopic... 06.47.25 # :P 06.47.32 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.47.51 # is support for other video formats planned? 06.47.52 # anything making the processor boost will lower runtime, though (playing doom, for example, or video) 06.47.58 # nothing is planned 06.48.05 # not exactly, anyway 06.48.17 # if you want a feature, it's encouraged to submit a patch :) 06.49.02 # ok, how about this then: is anyone currently working on other video formats? ;) 06.50.07 # i don't know. if anyone is, hopefully they've posted on the tracker or the ML 06.50.31 Quit arbingordon (Quit: `) 06.52.44 Join Lss [0] (~Lss@cm80.omega217.maxonline.com.sg) 06.53.47 # shodan45: they won't go in because you still have to transcode for screen size etc so they reckon wile doing this you can change the format 06.57.33 # robin0800, I was just thinking to use something more efficient than mpeg1/2 07.01.42 # mpeg 1/2 have low levels of compression, so they dont require very much processor power (keep in mind that most of these players have *very* limited processors and other resources) to play on the device 07.05.03 Part froggyman 07.09.55 Quit robin0800 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 07.10.23 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 07.36.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.43.31 Quit vegtoruci (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.47.10 Quit shodan45 (Remote host closed the connection) 07.49.16 Quit Adub- (Quit: japanese men make hot trannies) 07.51.55 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.53.49 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 07.58.41 Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.02.40 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 08.10.10 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.10.36 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.10.57 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.18.17 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 08.18.59 Join piotrekm [0] (~mirggi@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 08.30.58 Part toffe82 08.43.30 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 08.48.36 Quit antil33t (Read error: No route to host) 08.53.56 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 09.32.21 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 09.36.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.56.05 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.07.40 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D8C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.17.36 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~DerPapst@p5797C8C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.18.25 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.25.19 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.25.44 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.25.52 Part p3tur 10.31.47 Quit Lss (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.35.08 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 10.42.45 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 10.57.53 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.58.40 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224236243.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.58.40 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 10.58.40 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.01.54 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.05.50 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 11.06.46 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.07.28 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host66-209-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.07.59 Join PaulJam_ [0] (~Paule@p54BECE51.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.18.53 Join _av500_ [0] (vladimir@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de) 11.23.32 Join DataGhost [0] (~dataghost@unaffiliated/dataghost) 11.36.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.46.25 Join _zic [0] (~user@91-165-225-184.rev.libertysurf.net) 11.46.57 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.48.41 Quit shaggy-h (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.57.52 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p5485A962.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.01.02 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: [St.] has exited mIRC™) 12.09.07 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EFBD7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.10.05 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-36-230.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.12.03 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.12.45 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.13.32 Join ajb` [0] (~user@client-86-23-64-240.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) 12.27.15 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 12.27.21 Join benald [0] (~4f47b199@giant.haxx.se) 12.29.36 # Hi - I've had Rockbox running on my Cowon D2+ DAB for about 3 weeks now. I absolutely love it. In many respects it is so much better than Cowons own software! 12.30.06 # nice to hear :) 12.30.46 # It's interesting to read the technical stuff you guys have about the player too... 12.32.07 # I wrote a piece about how i got on with the player and came to install Rockbox here... http://www.ecoln.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=69 12.35.39 Quit benald (Quit: CGI:IRC) 12.35.45 Join benald [0] (~586d347c@giant.haxx.se) 12.38.03 # I believe someone already discovered it and linked it here. Thanks 12.38.37 Quit benald (Client Quit) 13.02.34 Join Buschel [0] (~AndreeBus@p54A3ACC7.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.07.40 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.14.58 Join perfectdrug_ [0] (~marko@p5B0EFCCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.15.03 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.19.00 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.21.18 Join DataGhost_ [0] (~dataghost@97-18-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl) 13.21.18 Quit DataGhost (Disconnected by services) 13.21.19 Nick DataGhost_ is now known as DataGhost (~dataghost@97-18-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl) 13.21.32 Quit DataGhost (Remote host closed the connection) 13.21.46 # call for test: can anyone with a coldfire target please test fs#10974? 13.24.14 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D8C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.25.23 # Buschel: are there example mpc files? Although if I test it'll take a while 13.28.33 # http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/ 13.29.13 # <_av500_> anbody at fosdem? 13.31.02 # some are 13.31.34 # <_av500_> im sittting nxt to them now :) 13.35.29 # _av500_: Bagder, Zagor, gevaerts and petur are there 13.35.50 # what is the current talk about ? 13.36.17 # <_av500_> build stuff 13.37.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.38.59 # pixelma: sorry, back again. amiconn gave you the right link -- it would be fine if could just test the mpc_170.mpc file 13.43.08 Join gb_master [0] (~82c03212@gateway/web/freenode/x-yzizoxtfmejmzvij) 13.43.28 # JdGordon: the radio_skin.patch doesn't even compile for my Ondio 13.43.40 Part gb_master 13.44.45 # warnings in skin_display.c and errors out in radio.c 13.47.46 # Buschel: I get a failed hunk in apps/codecs/libmusepack/synth_filter_arm.S when trying to patch a recent SVN (updated a few hours ago) 13.48.18 # pixelma: yes, but that won't impact the decoder. 13.48.28 # ...or the test... 13.48.41 Join dantje_ [0] (~dvg@HSI-KBW-095-208-155-207.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 13.49.24 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 13.52.22 Quit soap (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 13.54.08 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p5485A803.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.54.34 Join lxsysweb [0] (~jamie@88-110-8-156.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 13.54.52 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.56.49 Quit Buschel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.57.06 Join Buschel [0] (~AndreeBus@p54A3ACC7.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.57.41 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 14.00.26 # <_av500_> omfg daniel on stage 14.03.29 Quit AndyI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.03.33 # pamaury: could you please stop top-posting and quoting the full messages in the mailing list. It makes your mails very hard to follow (and is actually against the list etiquette, there are dozens of pages explaining why and a felt 100 threads about it in our mailing list archives already) 14.04.27 # ok sorry, my webmail does by default and I didn't think about. 14.05.40 # thanks :) 14.07.33 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.208.235) 14.11.17 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.13.48 # huh, why are there two copies of the exact same code in firmware/common/filefunc.c and firmware/common/misc.c, the strip_volume function ? 14.16.07 # pamaury, no idea, laziness maybe 14.16.09 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p5485A803.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.16.34 # hum, that's bizarre. common/misc.c is not included in firmware/SOURCES 14.17.42 # we should probably remote it completely then 14.17.54 # *remove 14.25.21 # that file was created byt mcuelenaere 14.25.57 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber@h-65-75.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 14.28.59 # I think he forgot to delete it after moving it 14.29.39 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D8C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.30.05 # I think so too 14.30.21 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@p50988dd0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.30.29 # Ok, I delete it 14.31.54 # New commit by 03pamaury (r24543): Remove a file that mcuelenaere forgot to delete (see r23763 and r23767). 14.35.07 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.36.33 # Buschel: the file plays fine with the patch on my M5 (also tested the mpc_224 one), no boosting according to the "view buffering thread" screen. I didn't test things like crossfade though and don't know what to look for exactly 14.37.17 # pixelma: sounds good :o) did you run a short test_codec benchmark? 14.37.43 # bloody hell, how can the deletion of an unused file change or even augment the binsize ??? 14.38.12 # no, didn't know I should. Let's see, maybe I still have test_codec enabled in my builds 14.38.41 # pixelma: I didn't aks for it -- but of course I am interested in any changes ;o) 14.38.54 # *ask 14.38.56 # pamaury: I don't see a change? 14.39.26 Join Will_ [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-76-235-49-202.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 14.39.56 # the delta table lags slightly behind the build table 14.40.01 # The build tables shows some changes for r24543 14.40.23 # that's "normal" although I don't know what causes it exactly 14.40.25 # 22 bytes for one tqrget I put down to random fluctuation 14.40.36 # pixelma: It is there, I'm looking at it 14.40.56 # pamaury: Notice it happens regularly 14.40.59 # a long time ago I made it so that holding down the seed button less than a second since it was previously held down, did not force skipping to the next track. I forgot what file I had to change to do this. Please? 14.41.08 # pamaury: The next commit will likely be -22 or some such 14.41.08 # seed=seek 14.41.36 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 14.41.43 # Buschel: 621,55% realtime, 19,97 MHz with the patch and the 170 file. I need to recompile without the patch 14.41.45 # AlexP: ok, I thought it would be a little more deterministic but I guess it depends on the build client 14.41.57 # They all fluctuate a little 14.44.10 # pamaury, I've seen other little bits of duplicated code here and there 14.44.33 # as you can see quite nicely in the whols e200v2 column (mrobe500 as well) 14.44.44 # whole too 14.44.45 # some of the printf-like function declarations are duplicate and I think I've seen some duplicated codec metadata parsing code 14.45.08 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 14.45.20 # Ok, I'll have a look at it. 14.46.38 # bertrik: do you have function names in mind or should I search myself ? 14.47.34 # snprintf and vsnprintf in stdio.h and sprintf.h 14.47.38 # pixelma: thanks, will you find time to test the unpatched build`? 14.48.09 # yes, it's almost ready with compiling 14.48.15 # :o) 14.49.07 # bertrik: yes, there are some prototype redundancy. There even are some prototypes which are not implemented in firmware/include irrc 14.49.21 # As long as there is one implementation, it's ok 14.49.43 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 14.50.26 # JdGordon: fwiw, the warnings in skin_parser.c are also there when compiling for my radio modded M5, not the errors though 14.53.19 # pamaury, IMO, a sensible strategy would be to put the standard printf-like functions in stdio.h and the ones we made up in sprintf.h, and have no duplicate declarations 14.54.27 # I think the mess is due to some newlib files that were copied without modifications 14.55.53 # Buschel: 554.88% realtime, 22.38 MHz :D 14.56.06 # without the patch 14.56.35 # pixelma: oops, I didn't expect it to be that much faster :o) 14.56.51 # bertrik: I'm not sure we should touch it but on the other hand, it's not normal to have duplicates 14.57.03 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.58.13 # Furthermore, there is not consistent use in the code. Some use stdio.h, some sprintf.h. 14.58.53 # Some both 14.59.43 # pixelma: thank you for your time! 15.02.33 # pamaury, yes, this is one of those things that is not quite right, but works fine in practice and probably breaks if you try to clean it up :P 15.02.46 # yes :) 15.03.11 # I don't want to end up modifying 30+ files just to merge to stupid headers ;) 15.04.17 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.04.48 # New commit by 03Buschel (r24544): Submit FS#10974: Speed up mpc-codec through changing the dct32-algorithm. +5% on PP5020, +12% on M5. 15.04.54 # I do a compile once in a while with slightly more strict compiler warnings to catch such stuff, like -Wmissing-prototypes to find global functions that don't have a declared prototype or -Wredundant-decls to find duplicate declarations 15.05.53 # And what was the result ? 15.07.17 Part Buschel 15.08.25 # a lot of warnings 15.08.51 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@e178090214.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.08.54 Quit kugel (Changing host) 15.08.54 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.09.04 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.09.53 # most of the valid warnings from -Wmissing-prototype when doing "make bin" are currently fixed 15.10.39 # bertrik: doesn't gcc compiles with -Wmissing-prototype by default ? 15.11.13 # no, it's not included in -Wall 15.11.29 # really ? That's ugly 15.13.44 # hm, I'm always getting warnings if I didnt put a prototype 15.14.59 # I think I also get warning if I didn't put a prototype. That's why I'm surprised 15.14.59 Join akur [0] (~akur@93.102.85.177.rev.optimus.pt) 15.15.43 Quit lxsysweb (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.17.20 # Hum, there is a difference I think. By default, gcc warn you if you use (e.g call) a function without defining it. BUT it doesn't warn you if you declare a function in a .c file without a prototype and without a static qualifier. With -Wmissing-prototypes, it does so 15.17.48 Join lxsysweb [0] (~jamie@88-110-7-175.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 15.17.57 # I tried to compile with -Wmissing-prototypes and there are too many warnings, most of them should be easy to fix 15.19.22 # Should I try to fix this or not ? 15.19.53 # most of the warnings are in the plugins, the codecs and the 'bin' target are relatively clean. I tried to fix it for the plugins once but some plugins stopped working. 15.19.57 # if you're bored :) 15.20.11 # I'll do it for the core :) 15.20.27 # make sure to test before committing please 15.20.32 # What do you mean by stopped working ? Stopped compile or compile but didn't work ? 15.20.44 # they compiled, but no longer worked 15.21.26 # That's strange 15.21.41 Quit Will_ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]) 15.22.48 Join lxsysweb_ [0] (~jamie@88-110-7-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 15.23.23 Join Lss [0] (~Lss@cm80.omega217.maxonline.com.sg) 15.23.43 Quit lxsysweb (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.24.12 # pamaury, most of the functions in the core that you get a warning for are somehow special: they are interrupt routines for example, where some special trick (e.g. weak linking) was used 15.25.07 # You're right. But some no. I'm not so sure I want to touch it finally :P 15.27.24 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.29.27 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p5485A803.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.37.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.38.57 # There are beautiful in rockbox. How to allocate half of kilobyte of data on stack in two lines ? 15.39.03 # char namecopy[MAX_PATH]; 15.39.03 # struct fat_direntry entry; 15.39.07 # :) 15.44.57 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.47.36 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.49.25 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 15.52.54 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.66.194) 15.56.18 Quit wind (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.26.08 Join BlastTyrant|work [0] (~c616ece6@giant.haxx.se) 16.26.15 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 16.27.26 Quit BlastTyrant|work (Client Quit) 16.29.27 Join vegtoruci [0] (~vegtoruci@pool-96-246-120-217.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 16.32.26 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.33.09 Part froggyman 16.41.49 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D8C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.53.18 # the problem with translating the manual source is to seperate the actual text from the tex "commands" 16.53.44 # And then find some way to make translations doable other than just by watching svn manual commits 16.53.55 # I think the danger is that it rapidly becomes out of ddate 16.54.13 # And if it is at all "official" it needs to be as up-to-date as the English one 16.54.18 # Which already lags somewhat 16.54.38 # yeah 16.54.45 # i don't think there are enough people to do such a translation of the manual 16.55.05 # I agree 16.55.10 # maybe just do it for releases once in a while 16.55.33 # Trouble is, if it isn't kept up-to-date, doing it just for releases becomes a nightmare 16.55.47 # after being done the first 16.56.00 # As in trying to separate all the changes then trans;ate and apply them 16.56.02 # time, keeping it up to date isn't that hard 16.56.14 # akur: Not if you keep at it 16.56.22 # akur: But leave it any time and it becomes very hard 16.56.51 # i think it would be nice to have an interface in the wiki which leads to foreign explanations 16.56.53 # the problem I see 16.56.58 # It'd be nice to have translations in a theoretical sense, but they would really have to be kept up-to-date 16.57.07 # I think it requires too much work. If there are enough people to do it, why not but who will do it ? 16.57.10 # perfectdrug_: Only if up-to-date and accurate 16.57.17 # pamaury: Exactly 16.57.29 # is how to keep track of the changes to the english in a efficient manner 16.57.29 # and it would be hard to check 16.57.35 # I think even starting with one is quite hard. IIRC my father gave up translating the PDF version for his target after doing some passages he was most interested in 16.57.36 # yep 16.57.56 # I agree it would be nice but very very hard 16.58.10 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24545): Allow 3 additional screenshots for themes. Displayed in the mouseover. WARNING needs 3 more rows in the themes table, named: sshot_1, sshot_2, sshot3. 16.58.29 # pixelma: yep 16.58.53 # Translations are a really pain. Perhaps I'm wrong but I don't think much people enjoy writing the english manual, so having another manual language would be a nightmare 16.59.09 # but then imagine this: 16.59.25 # a person using the portuguese version of rockbox 16.59.33 # pamaury: I don't mind, but if it were in another language I don't think I'd want to try and translate it into English 16.59.53 # some sort of reference would be nice so if someone asks what crossfade means that you could point him to a translation, so just for key things not for the whole manual 17.00.01 # sees a setting but doesnt know what it does 17.00.16 # perfectdrug_: Perhaps you just want a glossary so that they can then google it in their language 17.00.23 # and because that setting was translated, he cant find it in the manual 17.00.38 # yeah, so maybe a glossary 17.00.55 # much better idea 17.01.00 # A glossary seems easier. It won't change too much 17.01.11 # yes 17.01.39 # hmm... maybe there's a way to generate menu overview (tree) in English and automatically with the help of the lang system 17.01.49 # pixelma: That'd be nice 17.01.51 # but where to put it? 17.01.55 # Furthermore, much of the work is kind of already done in the language files. It's mostly a matter of selecting the interesting words 17.02.07 # pixelma: yeah something like this would be nice 17.02.14 # domonoky: my database lecturer would slap you for that :) 17.02.14 # pixelma: There is an old patch on the tracker to automatically generate the menu structure for the manual 17.02.40 # kugel: feel free todo it better :-) 17.02.50 # pixelma: I'd have the English menu overview in an appendix, the other languages on the wiki 17.02.54 # you can't add all these overviews in all the different languages into the manual 17.03.16 # s/add/put 17.04.08 # wiki could work if it was autogenerated and changed on every menu structure change 17.04.20 # somehow 17.04.24 # perhaps fixed pages then 17.04.29 # yes but i guess it is a lot of work to setup 17.04.31 # they can be generated for sure 17.05.02 # perfectdrug_: yes 17.05.21 # but a lot less than some translation of the manual 17.05.25 # yep 17.07.01 # kugel: there are additional complications, because the sqlite the themepage uses doesnt support adding rows live. So i do export-droptable-recreate table via the admin interface :-) 17.08.12 # I don't think translating the whole manual is worth it, but on the other hand if the person can navigate to rockbox.org, is there a need for a translation at all? 17.09.03 # this needs some base in the native language at least to point there 17.09.06 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.67.43) 17.09.10 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.09.11 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.67.43) 17.09.13 # maybe someone could stick the menu overview idea into the feature ideas forum 17.09.27 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-81-175.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.09.32 # Surely if they have installed Rockbox then they have already made it to rockbox.org? 17.09.52 # well... "feature" is a bit inaccurate but 17.10.29 # it is not hard to install rockbox as the utility is also translated but it is easy to get lost afterwards 17.10.54 # For sure, but hyou just suggested that they needed pointing at the website 17.11.06 # Surely the problem isn't finding the website, but after that 17.11.24 # ah... maybe the Utility could show this overview somewhere 17.11.29 Join GeekShado_ [0] (~Antoine@5.150.204-77.rev.gaoland.net) 17.11.53 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.12.29 # no I mean if the translation of keysections is on the rockbox.org site, you have to navigate there, unless someone points you in the right direction 17.12.57 # well yeah, maybe rbutil could 17.13.03 # at this time in the german rockbox forum we point people to the englisch sites and help them if questions arrise 17.13.26 # s/englisch/english 17.15.39 # but most of the time a simple RTM would be enough, but yeah you know, not when they don't understand it 17.16.25 Join Raafat [0] (~59f3c760@giant.haxx.se) 17.16.49 # we could autogenerate files and RbUtil would just look at them on the download servers -> always up-to-date. Another feature would be creating links to the respective manual part from this tree. Unfortunately I don't think I could code that 17.16.55 Quit Raafat (Client Quit) 17.17.24 # as in "I'm quite sure I couldn't in the near future" ;) 17.17.41 Join webguest26 [0] (~59f3c760@giant.haxx.se) 17.19.09 # i don't understand how RbUtil could help 17.19.39 # Hi, im trying to write a plugin. does rockbox support scanf() 17.20.06 # perfectdrug_: it could show you the menu structure in your language 17.20.43 # ah ok 17.21.12 # and possibly link to the correct part in the manual (which would be still English) but I'd imagine it could already be a help 17.22.02 # yes that sounds nice 17.22.20 # this would link the translation to the source 17.22.48 # which is a missing link right now IMO 17.23.16 # domonoky: the mouseover seems buggy 17.24.45 # kugel: how does this "buggy" show ? and which browser do you use ? 17.24.57 # webguest26: how would that work? there's a virtual keyboard input method 17.25.26 # so can I use scanf and will the keyboard come up 17.26.01 # domonoky: ff 3.6 (daily builds actually). the mouseover goes like pic-no pic-pic-no pic-... 17.26.35 # webguest26: there's no scanf(). it's a bad function anyway 17.27.24 # webguest26: use rb-> kbd_input(char buffer*, int len) 17.27.39 # ok thanks 17.28.38 # kugel: with "pic-no" you mean no image is shown ? 17.28.48 # yea 17.29.01 Join CaptainKewl [0] (jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.29.15 # read it like "no pic" :) 17.29.38 # ah :-) 17.30.02 # can you point me to such a theme ? it seems to work for me.. 17.30.27 Join CaptainKwel [0] (jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.30.31 # the first 3 under e200 17.30.43 # all actually 17.31.49 # seems to work fine for me with ff 3.5.7 on windows. 17.32.07 # opera works too 17.33.29 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.34.37 # maybe you could use firebug to find out where it goes wrong ? (the relevant code is in rbscript.js) 17.36.04 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.37.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.38.21 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 17.38.56 # works correctly in FF 3.5.5 but I find the time for each "slide" a bit short 17.40.25 # I'm currently unable to install extensions 17.40.25 # for me the slide only works after the whole page stops loading, which is normal i guess, but the time for the slide is shorter for me for the first hover and normal for the second 17.41.26 # looks like it's changing each two seconds 17.41.51 # I'd probably prefer 5 or 6 17.42.34 Join aaron_ [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 17.42.46 # 1.5s, I think it's a good value 17.43.11 # I'd go for 3 :) 17.43.46 Part aaron_ 17.45.14 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 17.47.00 # its 1.5 seconds. the first time a image is shown it maybe delayed a bit, because the browser has to load the image. 17.47.12 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f051014199.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.47.40 Part stooo 17.51.35 # too quick for me to get an impression... at least it seems to stay at the last loaded "slide" if you move your mouse away 17.52.41 # pixelma: it should go back to the wps display if you move you mouse away from the image. 17.53.38 # so it does 17.54.50 # i could increase the time a bit. but dont want to set it too high, themes can now have up to 5 images. 17.57.17 Quit webguest26 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.06.01 Quit moos (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]) 18.12.52 Join addikt1ve [0] (~addikt1ve@79.84.41.214) 18.12.53 # hi guys 18.13.05 # got a kind of problem on my ipod nano 2g 18.13.29 # when booting, rockbox bootloader tells me that it can't boot rockbox.ipod "Bad checksum" 18.13.37 # though files aren't corrupted 18.13.56 # i'm using the rockbox Current Build 18.14.14 # maybe the bootloader won't accept this build's checksum? 18.14.25 # addikt1ve: are you sure you installed the correct build ? (check rockbox-info.txt) 18.15.17 # Target: ipod1g2g 18.15.19 # :) 18.15.32 # oh wait 18.15.35 # ... 18.15.37 # XD 18.15.42 # ;) 18.16.20 # thanks dude 18.16.26 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.16.27 # let's download the right build 18.16.43 # the error message could be improved 18.17.06 # yep 18.17.23 # If it knew the checksums of the other builds it could tell you it was wrong 18.17.33 # But that seems an unnecessary complication 18.17.56 # Other than that, how does it tell between a corrupted file and a wrong build? 18.18.04 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.18.07 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24546): correct a log entry and increase the mouseover timeout a bit. 18.18.25 # AlexP: rockbox info? 18.18.50 # It could read that I suppose 18.19.02 # It just seems all complication for the bootloader 18.19.25 # All I'm saying is that I don't see how the error message could be improved without adding stuff to the bootloader 18.19.34 # hm, going by the code it should read "Read failed (model)" 18.20.33 # AlexP: it could show you the info if there was an error at least you would now if it was the right build 18.21.35 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 18.21.45 # You only need an error message to tell you if it is wrong 18.21.47 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.22.35 # theoretically it should be possible to compare the target-ids (i think it should be in the header of the binary). 18.24.58 # there's a 4 byte model string tacked to the binary 18.26.03 # Ah, cool 18.30.22 # hrm 18.30.31 # it doesn't compare that string to anything though 18.30.55 # wow 18.31.00 # rockbox looks amazingly awesome 18.31.07 # i havent been using it for a long time now 18.31.12 # looks deeply changed 18.31.18 # instead, booting fails because the model number built into the bootloader makes the checksum check fail 18.31.21 # gonna play with my "brand new iPod" now :) 18.31.23 # thanks guys! 18.32.11 Part addikt1ve ("WeeChat 0.3.1.1") 18.34.59 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.35.12 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.89.55) 18.37.35 Quit Farthen (Remote host closed the connection) 18.37.36 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.37.39 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.89.55) 18.40.56 Join saratoga [0] (~463f90ed@gateway/web/freenode/x-diufcshmtjtnupnl) 18.46.18 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.50.26 # New commit by 03Buschel (r24547): Remove tabs 18.51.52 # pixelma: nuts, thanks. the error wasnt simple enough to fix? 18.52.29 # not to me no. If you want, I could paste it somewhere 18.53.35 # ok, I'll fix it quickly for you 18.53.44 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-36-230.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.58.03 # pixelma: ok, task updated 18.59.06 # JdGordon: From what I remember that patch looks good to me on what I tested it on :) 18.59.23 # * AlexP is very much looking forward to fms 18.59.30 # :) 19.00.04 # I'm a bit wary of commiting it just yet though because it will increase the skin buffer usage again which is pretty wasteful 19.00.15 # I want to work out how to make it customisable first 19.00.22 # I can wait a little longer until you are happy :) 19.02.13 # IMO it shouldn't be configurable but resize to what's needed instead 19.02.36 # which cant really be done, so just forget about iot 19.02.38 # it 19.02.51 # it can, with a reboot 19.03.12 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 19.03.13 Join addikt1ve [0] (~addikt1ve@79.84.41.214) 19.03.13 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.03.15 # hey 19.03.17 # first problem using rockbox :) 19.03.30 # on my ipod nano 2g, when i plug the usb cable, rockbox goes to multimedia mode 19.04.00 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.04.00 # what are you expecting? 19.04.12 # a nice splash sound? 19.04.16 # That string really really really needs to be changed 19.04.17 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.04.28 # but i cant see my ipod in my file manager 19.04.29 # * bluebroth3r agrees with rasher 19.04.30 # so i cant mount it 19.04.52 # turn off USB HID in the settings 19.06.05 # I believe there was a problem with it on the 2nd gen Nanos anyways (data corruption when transferring files at the same time or so) 19.07.11 # JdGordon: still warnings left in skin_parser.c and radio.c too but no errors 19.07.33 # oh, ok pixelma 19.07.40 # how can i go out from multimedia mode? 19.07.47 # addikt1ve: Both HID (i.e. multimedia and the other modes) + mass storage should work at the same time, but the nano 2G currently has an issue with HID 19.07.49 # have i gotta hard reboot? 19.07.52 # pixelma: yeah, good. warnings are fine to ignore 19.08.09 # addikt1ve: No - unplug USB, turn HID off, replug USB 19.08.20 # when i unplug usb it keeps showing me multimedia mode :/ 19.08.26 # oh 19.08.28 # no 19.08.30 # it doesnt 19.08.32 # well, it did 19.08.34 # :p 19.08.48 # just a bit of lag probably :) 19.08.51 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.08.58 # nano 2g is currently unstable for a reason :) 19.08.58 # no i mean 19.09.00 # last time i tried 19.09.03 # it did 19.09.06 # if it causes a problem why isn't it disabled on the 2G? 19.09.07 # AlexP: hehe 19.09.41 # saratoga: I don't know the details - if it is all, intermittant, whatever. I've just seen a few issues with it + the 2G 19.09.47 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.09.48 # oh yeah mass storage is working now :) 19.09.52 # what does HID do? 19.10.05 # addikt1ve: Controls various functions of your PC from your DAP 19.10.11 # oh 19.10.13 # i dont care 19.10.15 # that's good 19.10.17 # :) 19.10.18 # addikt1ve: e.g. multimedia controls volume, skips tracks etc 19.10.27 # presentation advances slides etc 19.10.33 # I think it should be in the manual 19.10.45 # yeah but i didnt actually read it ;) 19.10.48 # beat me 19.10.54 # :] 19.11.12 # can i delete all apple firmware-related files? 19.11.23 # such as iPod_Control 19.11.32 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.11.37 # (i mean, will it be recreated on next Apple-firmware boot?) 19.11.46 # I'm pretty sure it will 19.11.50 # good 19.11.58 # addikt1ve: yes 19.12.08 # perfect then :) 19.12.20 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.102.27) 19.12.34 # kugel: rebooting isnt exactly nice, and is a PITA to setup (feel free to implement it though :D ) 19.13.03 # and what should it do it there isnt enogh room untill reboot? load the previous theme back? use the erros skins? 19.13.29 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r24548): Corrections in Czech language ... 19.13.49 # ^^ 19.13.53 # previous skins sounds good 19.14.54 # *changing topics* How do people feel about using the audio/skin buffer for multifont? it's not a perfect solution in that each font would be managed seperatly, but it would waste 0 ram for those that dont want it 19.15.25 # kugel: that means storing a dozen setting values just in case 19.16.49 # JdGordon: Could this be part of the skin buffer stuff? i.e. have a seconf font buffer that is either enabled or not along with changing the skin buffer e.g. on reboot 19.17.23 # yes, thats what I'd like 19.17.35 # but not just 1 extra font buffer. N exptra buffers 19.17.36 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-70-235-227-59.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 19.17.42 # yeah 19.17.46 # one for each font loaded (which is up to the user) 19.18.01 # seen as it really is only the skins which would make use of extra fonts 19.18.16 # they could be the correct size too - i.e. no need to reserve unifont size for a font that doesn't need it 19.19.20 # well, the whole font isnt loaded anyway 19.19.51 # Ah OK 19.20.11 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitr88@BSN-182-52-119.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 19.20.13 # unfortunately the bidirectional skin buffer complicates the dynamic buffer a bit 19.20.16 # doesn't SVN compress files as it transfers them? 19.20.37 # kugel: no, using pointers instead of offsets does 19.21.13 # and besides we shouldnt even worry about trying to compress. just resize at boot 19.23.40 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.24.32 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.25.57 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 19.26.12 Quit toffe82 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.29.23 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitr88@BSN-143-103-180.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 19.32.26 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-205-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.35.43 Quit lxsysweb_ (Quit: leaving) 19.37.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.37.17 # New commit by 03funman (r24549): Sansa AMS: do not init memory for AS3525v2 ... 19.38.55 # New commit by 03Buschel (r24550): Remove more tabs 19.39.43 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r24551): Slovak language update ... 19.41.58 # wow... 19.42.02 # copying files is so slow 19.42.22 # i really understand why rockbox for nano 2g is "unstable" :) 19.42.33 Quit vegtoruci (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.44.35 Join vegtoruci [0] (~vegtoruci@pool-96-246-120-217.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 19.46.26 # addikt1ve: Use the OF to transfer files 19.46.41 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.47.26 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.48.19 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.48.37 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.49.04 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D8C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.51.38 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-70-235-227-59.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 19.53.12 # * JdGordon is slightly annoyed that the font stuff is on the firmware side of things :( 19.55.36 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 19.55.52 # wtf! 19.56.01 # that looks corrupted 19.56.26 # * JdGordon wants context 19.56.51 # AlexP: OF? 19.57.10 # tomers: hey, join #rockbox-community 19.57.14 # saratoga: iirc the client *can* support compression if the server does. 19.58.07 # yay! Found that stupid bug :) 19.58.24 # http://imagebin.org/83763 19.59.14 # nie 19.59.15 # what's OF? 19.59.17 # addikt1ve: Original firmware 19.59.20 # oh 19.59.26 # nice even, kugel, howd you do that? 19.59.37 # added album art to the sbs 19.59.41 # i installed rockbox in order to prevent using OF 19.59.48 # so i'll be ok with transfer times :) 19.59.50 # brb 19.59.56 Quit vegtoruci (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.00.12 # so just to be sure. That's *not* what you were going for? :D 20.00.41 # JdGordon: That is sort of what I got when I had a ui viewport specified in the theme.cfg 20.00.47 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.01.24 # yeah, OK, the backdrop hadnling has a bug or two :( 20.01.29 # parsing failed (%V lacked a parameter), and this was the result 20.02.48 # ok 20.02.52 # simple fix 20.03.05 # JdGordon: joined :-) 20.05.33 Quit ajb` (Remote host closed the connection) 20.05.56 # kugel: the parse error was in the sbs? 20.06.06 # yea 20.07.03 # thats odd. it should have set the backdrop pointer to NULL in that case 20.09.38 Quit grndslm (Quit: Leaving) 20.10.00 # New commit by 03funman (r24552): Sansa AMS AS3525v2 SD: remove a case which is never run ... 20.12.20 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 20.12.48 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.13.38 # JdGordon: I have been experiencing that same bug simply by changing themes between one with sbs and one without, and then setting the sbs to rockbox_none.. 20.14.01 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 20.14.36 # grr 20.14.55 # funman: is that last commit correct? 20.16.18 Join Strife89DS [0] (~nds@adsl-154-2-168.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.16.22 # New commit by 03tomers (r24553): Cowon D2: Use buttons for Brickmania instead of touchscreen, which hides the paddle 20.17.18 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 20.17.32 # Why not have both the button and the touchscreen? 20.17.38 # saratoga: yes it's correct, i checked the OF didn't run this case 20.17.47 # s/button/buttons 20.17.51 # the if(0) was just there to remind there were 2 possible paths 20.18.02 # but you removed the wrong one I think? 20.18.06 # no 20.18.33 # I find that I prefer to have both on hand when I play, say, The Prison on my Palm. 20.18.39 # i replaced the removed case with NOPs and OF still booted 20.18.56 # so you meant to switch which case was run? 20.19.39 # yes, the if(0) could well have been a if(1), but I didn't know which one of the 2 cases was run 20.20.41 # ah ok 20.20.42 # it would be easier if we could put an hand on the Linux port for AS35* 20.20.52 Join phanboy_iv [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 20.21.43 # has anyone asked AMS for it? 20.22.19 # i asked one guy about the synopsys mobile host driver but he told me that it was synopsys IP 20.22.32 # ullrich something 20.22.47 # the person listed as maintainer for "AS353X" linux machine type 20.23.16 # i wonder where those chinese students got it from 20.23.43 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.23.48 # I don't think they're students, it's in the "work & job" forum, so I suppose they basically got it straight from AMS 20.23.49 Quit JdGordon (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.23.58 # Can't find anything that looks like an email though 20.24.10 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 20.24.25 # one of them mentioned school in the google translate version 20.24.57 # theres actually a PM function on that page, but since i don't speak chinese i don't think it will help 20.25.02 # i could get a friend to try it for me 20.27.03 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-154-2-168.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.27.11 # there is the comment box 20.27.19 Quit Strife89DS (Quit: ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS) 20.27.42 # * TheSeven wonders if removing diskmode is a no-go ;-) 20.28.13 # Strife89DS, tomers: both should actually be doable quite easily. On the c200 you can also use the Volume and the Left/Right keys 20.28.24 # or Strife89 20.30.20 # TheSeven: once rockbox-usb works on my nano it would be ok for me :-) 20.30.28 # reallly cheap 8GB clipv2s on woot today 20.30.35 # if anyone wants in on that port 20.30.50 # liar: that bugger just won't boot... 20.32.53 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 20.33.22 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 20.33.24 # Strife89DS: some plugins use both touchpad and buttons. it is mostly unneeded, though 20.33.37 Join petur [0] (~peter@d54C6F9B2.access.telenet.be) 20.33.37 Quit petur (Changing host) 20.33.37 Join petur [0] (~peter@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.35.39 Quit piotrekm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.37.53 Quit PaulJam_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.41.52 # JdGordon: I get a crash when RoLo'ing the new build but it's very weird as the previous build which is still flashed doesn't want to play music, it was working before. Of course I already copied the new build but it shouldn't matter as the hwcodec playback engine doesn't rely on some other files on the disk 20.42.25 Join piotrekm [0] (~mirggi@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 20.43.23 # pixelma: what was the previous build? 20.43.46 # revision I mean 20.44.15 # the crash is also weird because I don't get the clean error screen - I get a screen that still shows the "ROLO... Loading" and the error screen to the right so the numbers are cut off. I can still see "I09: CP.." "at FFE..." 20.44.34 # r 24319 20.45.40 # * pixelma will compile a 3.5 build 20.45.40 # can you see if 24370 boots? 20.46.01 # 3.5 *should* work. the big changes happend in trunk 20.46.13 # ok, I'll try that then 20.46.15 # the previous build is way before the bakdrop stuff changed 20.48.24 Part addikt1ve ("WeeChat 0.3.1.1") 20.52.00 # Is there any point to have separate keymap files in manual for different ipod generations? 20.52.13 # diff platform/keymap-ipod1g2g.tex platform/keymap-ipod3g.tex --> no changes 20.52.59 Join guest001 [0] (~someone@99-227.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 20.53.18 # platform/keymap-ipod4g.tex --> adds only ActionStdUsbCharge, Record and FM radio keymaps... If we would have one single ipod keymaps file, it wouldn't change anything 20.53.49 # the 3G's button layout (on target) is very different though and there could be differences (and we differentiate between those pads in the main code too) 20.54.02 Join piotrm [0] (~mirggi@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 20.54.31 Quit piotrekm (Disconnected by services) 20.54.55 Nick piotrm is now known as piotrekm (~mirggi@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 20.55.10 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.55.13 # the situation used to be worse... without separate keymap files 20.57.22 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-36-230.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.00.02 # meh,, that backdrop bug destroys my dump for the theme site 21.04.50 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.06.56 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 21.07.57 # domonoky: *not* updating doesn't actually work, does it? 21.08.13 # when uploading a theme which already exists 21.09.08 # kugel: what should happen if you upload a theme which already exists and you dont want to update that ? 21.09.21 Join rhodan_ [0] (~quassel@36-96.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.09.35 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 21.09.51 # well, the same thing that happens when uploading a new theme 21.10.01 Quit ender` (Quit: In every computer error, there are at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer.) 21.10.12 # but then you would have two visible themes with the same name.. 21.10.25 # the checkbox suggests I can choose to not update 21.11.25 # * kugel could update, but it wouldn't bring the theme at the top in the default view :) 21.11.35 # or would it? 21.11.51 # hm, feel free to change the upload page. I intended it more like, that you explicitly have to check "update" to not accidently overwrite a theme. 21.12.18 # it should get to the top. because internally a updated theme is treated like a new theme. 21.13.11 Quit rhodan (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.13.24 # "update" is just the additional handling to hide the old one, when you perform emailvalidation. and ofcoure allowing dublicate names if you check the update checkbox. 21.14.10 # JdGordon: r24370 works (and I flashed it now), maybe I can try an unpatched SVN build now 21.14.15 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.14.25 # indeed 21.14.36 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.14.52 Part akur 21.16.25 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.17.20 # domonoky: hrm could the download count and rating be taken over? 21.18.28 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 21.18.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.18.34 # kugel: they could, if someone codes it :-) and there have been objections against taking over ratings (theme could change radically on update) 21.18.37 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 21.18.37 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.18.53 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.18.55 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.19.29 # maybe only download count then 21.19.37 # New commit by 03tomers (r24554): Brickmania: Use touchpad actions even if buttons are assigned to them (Cowon D2) ... 21.20.11 # Strife89DS, pixelma: I've just committed support for touchpad in brickmania even if buttons are assigned. Thanks! 21.23.47 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-36-230.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.24.06 # kugel: i think takeing over the download count would be fine. if you want to hack at that, look at private/themesite.class.php - verifyemail() 21.24.24 # err, I can't do php 21.25.12 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@genkt-057-206.t-mobile.co.uk) 21.25.24 # then learn it. i also didnt know any php or jscript before i hacked at the theme page, because noone else did :-) 21.25.45 # if you can code C/C++ it isnt too hard. 21.25.55 Part guest001 21.26.20 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.26.31 # domonoky: the func name is a bit missleading, I wouldn't have found it 21.26.45 Nick rhodan_ is now known as rhodan (~quassel@36-96.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.28.21 # kugel: true, that because the update function is a little bit a hack. :-) 21.28.34 # :) 21.28.36 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.29.28 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 21.29.44 # tomers: :) 21.30.25 # tomers: I don't actually own a Rockboxable touchscreen device, but I know from experience that having both at once is quite handy. :) 21.31.49 Join Highlander_ [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 21.32.56 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-36-230.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.33.13 Join guest001 [0] (~someone@99-227.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.35.39 Quit Highlander (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.36.06 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.37.00 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 21.37.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.37.23 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 21.38.11 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.40.27 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.40.47 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.42.01 Part guest001 21.44.39 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.46.40 Quit Highlander_ (Quit: Quitte) 21.49.39 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Gearing up for a Super Bowl party (and I'm not even going to watch the game :P).) 21.56.19 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 21.56.26 Quit GeekShado_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.58.55 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.06.02 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.06.42 # domonoky. according to the forum reply, maybe it would really be better if the click on the themepicture at the overview page would always lead to the details page 22.07.44 # and have no download link in the theme list ? 22.08.20 # pixelma: any updates? 22.10.22 # domonoky: yes as a result, I also think the details page is hard to find 22.10.46 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 22.11.26 # and then make the details page more detail, e.g show the mentioned 5 screenshots directly beside each other 22.11.28 # I think the current situation is good. there should just be an indicator that clicking on the title leads to another page 22.11.43 # that's a good idea 22.12.36 # just an idea, as I'm not capable of doing it myself... 22.14.25 # changeing the link is easy, if that is wanted. 22.17.29 # domonoky: I finally have OS X TTS running without external libs. The encoding issue persists on a 10.4 build :( 22.18.52 # that means we have to drop 10.4 support if we want osx-tts ? 22.19.02 # i don't know how important the details page is though 22.19.52 # domonoky: no, we can have that (after a bunch of hours wrapping my head around wav and aiff -- they aren't _that_ complex, but one can always add supid bugs ;-) 22.20.21 Join vegtoruci [0] (~vegtoruci@pool-96-246-120-217.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 22.20.36 # or maybe just an additional link at the right next to "works with 3.5" saying details, but there are no real details though 22.20.39 # the problem is that the translation of the input strings to the format required by SpeakText() doesn't seem to work. And that regardless of the OS X SDK version used 22.21.26 # maybe I should create a small test program and try if it's an issue with Qt. At least it looks like this right now. 22.33.18 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 22.39.16 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 22.40.34 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24555): Make the imagelinks on the themelist point to the details page. Add a downloadlink to the list. 22.41.03 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 22.44.10 # domonoky: very nice 22.45.13 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.47.38 Quit _zic (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.49.38 Quit tomers (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) 22.50.41 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.55.45 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 22.59.48 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 23.00.46 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzz) 23.02.47 # domonoky: :( 23.03.45 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r24556): let the image cycle always start with menu. 23.05.05 # kugel: you can still download themes from the overview pages... if you want it different, get your hands dirty :-) 23.05.25 # I like how it was 23.10.29 Join mamoul [0] (~mamoul@ppp-71-133-87-149.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 23.10.34 # hey buddies 23.10.48 # I have a sansa e250, but I can't sort out all this v1 v2 R business 23.12.03 # mamoul - as in, you don't know what version you have? 23.12.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Port 23.12.07 # mamoul: tell us the version of you original firmware. 23.13.32 # ok wait 23.15.06 # I did another battery bench on my sansa clip v1, but now forcing the voltage regulator into "direct length regulation only", I'm getting a much short runtime now, much closer to the runtimes reported by jobec and funman 23.15.31 # i.e. 5h48 runtime instead of 8h14 23.15.45 # ok version 01.02.18A 23.15.46 # so it is v1 23.16.02 # yes 23.16.06 # I noticed that rockbox is now doing file transfer over usb 23.16.13 # instead of just rebooting 23.17.03 # hmm 23.17.03 # oh no 23.17.05 # it crashed 23.17.44 # mamoul - any more details would be useful (if you would like us to be able to help you out) 23.18.14 # it just said panic stack underflow 23.18.21 # should I trust rockbox while doing file transfers? 23.18.46 # that was when it was plugged into the pc and I unplugged it 23.18.57 # holy crap 23.19.01 Part Llorean 23.19.06 # my mp3 is controlling my audio settings in gnome 23.22.27 # if I can transfer files with rockbox I don't really need the original firmware 23.22.40 # but when the bootloader boots and the usb is connected, it will default to the original firmware 23.22.49 # should I update my bootloader or leave it? 23.25.07 # update 23.27.17 # I can't figure out how 23.30.08 # rockbox utility 23.30.30 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 23.31.08 Join Adub- [0] (~Rotting@xplr-ts-t11-208-114-159-122.barrettxplore.com) 23.31.49 # I'm doing the manual version with sansa patcher 23.31.56 # but it still says that the bootloader is v4 23.32.08 # JdGordon: yes, I get the inbuilt statusbar drawn over my WPS (which disables it) on my M5 now with r24542 and the radio screen patch. Haven't tried or even prepared an fms yet there though 23.33.16 # hm the patcher appears not to have done anything 23.36.37 Quit Lss (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.37.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.38.25 # ah I guess I had to unmount the fs before patching 23.39.21 # sweet 23.39.24 # now my system is pure rockbox 23.39.34 # no need for crappy oem firmware to transfer files 23.39.50 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87-196-232-129.net.novis.pt) 23.40.43 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.69.231) 23.40.57 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.41.34 # <_av500_> B4gder: signing off, cu 23.41.41 Part _av500_ 23.41.42 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.42.46 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.42.47 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.69.231) 23.47.15 Join WingNut_ [0] (~me@72.54.143.208) 23.47.58 Quit soap (Quit: soap) 23.48.09 # JdGordon: I don't use an sbs there if it matters and I start the tests with SVN now 23.49.03 # btw, I spoke to a guy from ffmpeg (I forgot to ask his name) and he expressed a desire to get us working together to sync up changes done in rockbox with them and vice versa 23.49.37 # any quick way to access the bootloader to choose to boot into the regular ipod os or rb? 23.49.39 # I said it is a good idea and that I too would like to see that getting worked on 23.50.13 # pixelma: did that rev I asked you to try boot? 23.50.13 # (I'll post about this to the dev list later on too to make sure everyone who cares will catch it) 23.50.36 # JdGordon: I already answered that 23.52.52 # it does 23.54.01 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@99-32-77-163.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 23.54.01 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 23.54.01 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 23.57.02 # WingNut_: you mean outside of the normal dual boot key combination? 23.57.19 # * gevaerts can't remember right now what that was on ipod 23.57.37 # maybe thats what I'm looking for gevaerts, I looked on the manual but didn't see it listed 23.58.09 # the rockbox bootloader doesn't have a menu if that's what you were looking for 23.58.15 # gevaerts - on ipod it's the hold switch, to boot into original apple os .. 23.58.27 # pixelma: ok, that patch shouldnt affect the WPS at all so I dont know why you are seeing the inbuilt bar. I'm interested to hear what svn does 23.58.33 # * JdGordon goes to have a few beers