--- Log for 19.02.110 Server: wolfe.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 9 hours ago 00.02.33 # tomers: no 00.02.39 # pamaury: no, you can close it if you want 00.03.54 # JdGordon_: as you want 00.04.19 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA961.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.04.58 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.103.124) 00.05.42 Quit ender` (Quit: The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. -- Thomas Jefferson) 00.06.51 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.07.25 Join Kinetik_ [0] (~Kinetik@HSI-KBW-078-043-034-153.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 00.07.31 # hi everybody 00.07.46 # ive got a problem with my player 00.07.57 # i think he's screwed up ^ 00.08.10 # it's a sansa e260v2 00.08.16 # got rockbox on it 00.08.18 # could you be more specific than "screwed up"? 00.08.31 Quit MagusG (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.08.34 # now wanted to update to original firmware 00.08.38 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-98-192-69-229.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 00.09.04 # got the failure, that the musicdb cant be created, because there is to few space 00.09.11 # but there is nothing on the player 00.09.15 # just the frimware 00.09.33 # tired several things said by sansa support 00.09.37 # nothing helped 00.09.45 # problems with the original firmware aren't on-topic here 00.10.09 # they told me to google fixmysansa and i found the tool e200tool 00.10.13 # TheSeven: ^^ 00.10.19 # i know, it isnt a firmware prob at all 00.10.32 # e200tool isn't for the v2 devices 00.10.34 # tried to use this tool 00.10.35 # JdGordon_: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1jmduf&s=6 and this is with the following WPS: http://pastebin.com/m2601582f 00.10.49 # is there a way to unbrick my device? 00.11.23 # is it even bricked? 00.11.28 # jop 00.11.31 # pamaury: the things you removed from stack 00.11.38 # cant flash, access or make something with it 00.12.12 # how does it behave? just black screen and no reaction? 00.12.15 # it says it is connected, but its not in the explorer... or the explorer hangs him up trying to access 00.12.19 # no 00.12.32 # then it probably isn't bricked. 00.12.33 # gives the failure and shuts down 00.12.37 # TheSeven: ah, year. Well, on all platforms that's 3*512 which is also 1.5KiB. Not worth it. On nano2g that's 3*2048 which is 6KiB, here perhaps that's worth it 00.12.48 # or as i said cant access the device 00.12.56 # I personally don't care about 6KB 00.12.59 # thats good, but what can i do? 00.13.01 # we have plenty of room anyways 00.13.12 # which kind of failure? 00.13.37 # musicdb cant be created, to few space, free up 90 mb space (on a empty player) 00.13.46 # then he turns of 00.13.53 # can you still boot rockbox? 00.13.58 # no 00.14.19 # so it already flashed the new firmware, which can't access the storage for some reason? 00.14.19 # he boots to original firmware 00.14.31 # TheSeven: agree 00.14.57 # yes... its a known failure, but the solutions thy gave me dont work, because I cant access the device to reflash 00.15.06 # 32MB of RAM on that thing... and if it rebuffers every 20 or 21 minutes won't make any runtime difference on a flash target 00.16.13 # any ideas TheSeven ? 00.16.14 # Kinetik_: did they say what could be the reason for the firmware to behave that way? 00.16.29 # bad flash porcedure 00.16.45 # or a failure while creating the db 00.16.52 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.17.00 # i have to reflash, but cant access the device to do so 00.17.11 # is there some kind of USB storage or recovery mode on that device? 00.17.16 # is there a tool like e200tool for the v2? ^ 00.17.28 # (i've never even seen an e200v2 yet, i'm just trying to help you in a generic way ;-) ) 00.17.56 # joa, it should be there by putting on the Hold-Mode and pressing down the select-key 00.18.09 # but that doesnt work 00.18.20 # tomers: thats what you expected right? 00.18.52 # in the wiki, theres a walkthrough to unbrick a e200v2 00.18.55 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 00.19.15 # that says to connect to pins while putting in the usb calbe 00.19.38 # but if i connect these pins, nothing happens if i put in the usb cable 00.19.48 # and so I'm here ^ 00.20.40 # JdGordon_: oops. I guess 00.20.55 # * tomers continues testing 00.21.32 # Kinetik_: in theory you can always unbrick them using jtag, but i'm afraid that this probably won't be feasible for you 00.22.49 # should tools/sample.emacs be moved to utils/editors too? (guess so) 00.23.18 # Kinetik_: have you checked the sandisk forums? 00.23.21 # dont know anything about jtag 00.23.25 # they're likely to know more about fixing the OF then us 00.23.31 # most people here have never really used it 00.24.23 # Kinetik_: how does the player behave if you connect those pins? 00.24.56 # it happens nothing 00.25.12 # he doesnt do anything... 00.25.32 # i think it takes a lot of effort to get that trick to work 00.25.39 # many tries and very good timing 00.26.02 # Kinetik_: "does nothing" = stays off? or boots up normally? 00.26.55 # judging from the location of those pins i guess they're jamming the communication between the cpu and the flash, so i think it shouldn't be able to boot at all if you mange to connect them 00.27.53 # stays off 00.28.59 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.29.56 # does it power on when you remove it? what happens if you manually try to power it on while they are connected? 00.30.14 # no usb reaction at all? (i expect the screen to stay off in that recovery mode) 00.30.31 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-222-234.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 00.31.39 # New commit by 03tomers (r24761): wps.vim : Syntax for Rockbox WPS ... 00.32.10 # New commit by 03tomers (r24762): Move sample.emacs to utils/editors 00.32.50 # * TheSeven eats CIA-8 00.32.51 # * CIA-8 tastes crunchy 00.35.18 # trying it again in a newer version of ubuntu... 00.35.34 # in windows, there is a reaction to the connected pins 00.35.41 # * JdGordon_ wonders what other fun stuff CIA-8 does 00.35.56 # aha. i'd say that it *is* in the recovery mode then 00.36.19 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 00.36.24 # probably you need to remove that connection again before the usb storage code tries to detect the flash 00.36.35 # * TheSeven kicks CIA-8 00.36.36 # ow 00.36.53 # yea.. but strange, that he doesnt recognise that on ubuntu 8.04 00.36.59 # now trying 9.10 ^ 00.38.57 # what does dmesg say? 00.39.22 # try experimenting with the timing, i.e. removing the bridge *immediately* after connecting usb 00.39.40 # if it boots up normally, it was too early. if it doesn't get detected by the pc, it was too late. and so on. 00.40.19 # JdGordon_: Switching to hebrew, I get the filename aligned to the right, and the artist name to the left. I think that's ok, right? 00.40.36 # probobobaly 00.40.47 # JdGordon_: Having %ax%V... to viewport, and %Vp|1|%ar%ia|%al%fn| 00.41.13 # ok... doesnt do anything... triing to experience with the timing 00.41.32 # i have to connect, remove the pin an then he should boot up? 00.41.37 # is that right? 00.42.14 # connect, immediately remove the pin and it should connect to the pc with the screen off, iiuc 00.43.04 # JdGordon: and when I remove the %ax from the viewport, it aligns in Hebrew as it is in English 00.43.15 Part froggyman 00.43.18 # JdGordon_: ^ 00.43.26 # ok, if i conncet to the pc with the pins connected, i get a flash drive about 1MB size 00.43.47 # now triing to find the right timing 00.44.55 # windows or linux? 00.45.11 # a 1MB fat partition, or 1mb of unformatted space (garbage)? 00.45.37 # you probably won't see the file system in that mode, only the raw flash 00.45.47 Quit Schmogel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.45.50 # (but as i said, i have never actually dealt with such a device) 00.46.17 # linux 00.46.23 # 1 mb of garbage 00.46.42 # it says there are no partition tables on it 00.46.46 # JdGordon: When I set %V|10|30|310|140|1|-|-| and %Vp|1|%aR%ia|%aL%fn|, in Hebrew interface, I get the artist name aligned to the right, and filename aligned to the left. I think it should be the other way around 00.48.15 # JdGordon_: same results when the inteface language is English. %aL and %aR don't work properly 00.48.46 # ok, thanks 00.49.14 # i've got a UNDEF Storage in the explorer... but i cant access 00.49.58 Quit karashata (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.50.01 # Kinetik_: how does the firmware file you are supposed to flash in that mode look like? 00.50.17 # it could be possible that you just need to dd that at this point 00.50.20 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 00.50.25 # i don't think it can hurt much to just try it 00.50.27 # öhm... dont know... think its a bin file 00.50.45 # you're probably reading the same "garbage" from the flash... 00.50.52 Quit JdGordon_ (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.51.37 # but i cant access the device 00.52.05 # access in terms of what? i/o errors when trying to read/write it? 00.52.51 # access in term of doubleclicking on the device 00.53.00 # erm. 00.53.03 # "You can dump the whole OF-Image onto that by using e.g.: 00.53.04 # dd if=orig_image.bin of=/dev/sde " 00.53.27 # but according to those instructions, you need to keep the pins connected until after it connected... 00.53.37 # and it should report the correct flash size 00.54.27 # yea... thats my problem... i dont understand what to do now 00.54.53 # just try around then. or wait until someone turns up who has already done it 00.55.02 # gg 00.55.04 # ok 00.55.41 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 00.56.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.00.14 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@adsl-99-158-46-229.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 01.00.15 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 01.00.15 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 01.03.22 Quit evilnick_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.03.46 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@ool-457bccf5.dyn.optonline.net) 01.10.20 # ok... dont coming through the point with the undef storage with 1 mb size 01.13.25 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.16.36 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.22.25 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@92-183.anonymous.at.anonine.com) 01.25.30 Join CaptainKewl [0] (jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.26.47 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.30.55 Quit Kinetik_ (Quit: Kinetik_) 01.36.12 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 01.40.58 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: There are 10 types of people, those who understand binary, and those who don't.) 01.48.48 Quit pippijn (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.49.42 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 01.50.11 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 01.56.00 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 02.00.23 Part toffe82 02.07.14 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-6.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.13.29 Quit huelk (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.20.26 Join checker [0] (~438c9d48@giant.haxx.se) 02.20.54 # was the multi-font patch in the 3.5 release? 02.25.45 # no 02.26.23 # and theres no way to change the system font? 02.26.40 # not without recompiling 02.26.41 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.26.48 # darn 02.26.51 # :P 02.29.17 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.29.47 # any forecast as to how long until its in the official release? 02.31.21 # it is in the current builds 02.31.25 Quit checker (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 02.34.16 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitr88@BSN-182-67-34.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 02.37.34 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.38.35 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.44.05 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitr88@BSN-142-87-86.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 02.45.06 Quit jd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.49.45 Join jd [0] (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 02.49.46 Quit jd (Changing host) 02.49.46 Join jd [0] (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 02.51.11 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.56.12 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 02.56.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.00.44 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.01.31 Quit Adnyxo (Remote host closed the connection) 03.04.06 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.08.16 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.12.51 Join CaptainKewl [0] (jds@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.40.00 Join planetbeing [0] (~planetbei@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 03.40.49 Quit Adnyxo (Remote host closed the connection) 03.49.13 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 03.53.45 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 03.54.33 Nick LambdaCalculus37 is now known as MrThou (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 03.54.42 Nick MrThou is now known as LambdaCalculus37 (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 04.00.58 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.01.28 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-6.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.04.15 Join JdGordon| [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.11.21 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.11.34 Join The_Seven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.11.44 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.12.37 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.14.52 Quit ecio (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 04.17.09 Join kimi-sharamin [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.17.10 Quit karashata (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.17.48 Nick kimi-sharamin is now known as kimi (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.18.52 Nick kimi is now known as karashata (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.18.56 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-210-48.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.19.14 Nick karashata is now known as kimi (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.19.30 Nick kimi is now known as karashata (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.20.17 Nick karashata is now known as kara (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.20.27 Nick kara is now known as karashata (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 04.20.31 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053154220.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.20.32 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 04.20.32 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 04.20.45 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 04.21.02 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 04.21.05 Quit bluebroth3r (Write error: Broken pipe) 04.34.23 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 04.46.48 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@gssn-5f757cec.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.50.20 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.53.48 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 04.56.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.57.42 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.103.124) 04.58.02 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.58.15 Part froggyman 04.59.18 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Fwump) 05.00.01 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.02.19 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.02.43 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-6.mcn.bellsouth.net) 05.05.25 Quit Strife89 (Client Quit) 05.09.18 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 05.26.08 Join webguest73 [0] (~18a44787@giant.haxx.se) 05.26.36 Quit webguest73 (Client Quit) 05.26.45 Join webguest10 [0] (~18a44787@giant.haxx.se) 05.29.12 Quit webguest10 (Client Quit) 05.40.03 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.45.11 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.54.36 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.56.31 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 06.09.37 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 06.16.40 Quit ericandor (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 06.21.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 06.29.45 # so what happens when I manually update rockbox and there are plugins with changed names? 06.29.51 # like mandelbrot -> fractals 06.30.06 # will it screw things up? 06.30.21 # because the file's name is changed and so the old one no longer gets overwritten 06.32.19 # those changed ones eventually wont run 06.32.46 # so it's better to occasionally backup config files and delete the entire .rockbox folder instead of just constantly overwriting? 06.36.22 # no 06.36.30 # just delete the files when they become outdated 06.36.37 # I mean, I've got cruft in my rockbox folder from like 2006 06.36.59 # yeah, but that's a pain.. 06.39.59 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/WinterChipV =ooo Ï¢INTER ϾHIP 5iVE is OOON!!) 06.56.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.13 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 07.07.41 Quit karashata (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.08.06 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 07.16.26 Join ffr2822 [0] (~6277363b@giant.haxx.se) 07.17.09 # I'd like to report a difficulty with the 3.5 release, operating on a Archos Recorder V1, 20Gb version 07.17.11 Quit MagusG (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.18.02 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-98-192-69-229.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 07.18.44 # what's the problem? 07.19.00 # issue is a crash of the system during playback. Recreate by : Select song for playback. During playback, press F3. Disk access begins flashing at 2hz, and display shows I09:CPUAdrEr at xxxxxxxxxx 07.19.46 # is F3 the other "quickscreen"? 07.19.48 # I've seen at least 2 addresses so far - currently I show 09019BFC 07.20.02 # yes - it is. Rightmost upper button 07.21.53 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.22.06 # I've a bug report ready to file, but I figured I'd mention it here first, just in case it's already been reported - flyspray doesn't have 3.5 as an official release yet. 07.24.11 Quit liar (Quit: Verlassend) 07.24.18 # hello? 07.24.44 # I guess the bug is around for even longer, better put it on the tracker (and you could also try a current build and report for that if the bug is present there too (and I don't know of anything that could have fixed it)) 07.26.31 # fair enough - I stumbled across my player in the back of my desk - where it's been for about 5 years - the version on there from before was from 2004 - and the button worked then. *shrug* 07.27.49 # Ok.. it's filed as FS#11037 - 07.28.38 # thanks. Unfortunately not many devs have Recorders anymore or don't care about it 07.29.48 # I kinda figured that might be the case - it is a bit long in the tooth. 07.30.48 # I guess the bug is related to viewportification of the quickscreen and went unnoticed because of above mentioned fact and the F3 quickscreen is even less used, I guess 07.31.01 # many guesses :\ 07.31.12 # what does it take to build/test the system - maybe I can take a stab at it 07.32.07 # there are howtos for setting up build environment etc. in our wiki 07.32.42 # JdGordon: you have a Recorder too now, right? ;) 07.33.30 # Ok - I'll take a look at it. I normally do embedded linux work, so this can't be all that much different. 07.42.48 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 07.47.20 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.47.21 Join KBH [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 07.47.31 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.00.02 Quit karashata (Quit: The fluffy dragon has left completely!) 08.02.18 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.03.11 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.05.36 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 08.05.36 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 08.05.36 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.05.42 # New commit by 03funman (r24763): mkamsboot binary depends on the same object files than libmkamsboot 08.07.10 Quit ffr2822 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 08.09.46 # oops LIBOBJS was already included in OBJS 08.13.25 # Prerequisite `build' is newer than target `build/dualboot.o'. 08.13.25 # Must remake target `build/dualboot.o'. 08.13.30 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C86D.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.13.56 # the problem seems to be the build directory target 08.14.24 Quit moos (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]) 08.14.56 # funman: where is this? 08.15.07 # rbutil/mkamsboot 08.15.16 # depending on directories is always shaky 08.15.23 # make clean; make; make # will rebuild some files 1 times out of 4 or something 08.15.41 Join psycho_maniac [0] (HydraIRC@230.sub-75-222-0.myvzw.com) 08.16.11 # New commit by 03tomers (r24764): Brickmania: Use constant for number of fires ... 08.16.53 # I get very consistent results: dualboot.c, md5.c and main.c are always rebuilt each time I run make 08.16.53 # New commit by 03funman (r24765): Revert r24763 : LIBOBJS is already included in OBJS ... 08.18.54 # what is the purpose of TARGET_DIR and RBARCH? 08.18.55 # I'm using relatime on this filesystem, but i'd think make use modification time and not access time 08.19.12 # build a 'fat' osx binary 08.19.29 # with 2 directories: one for ppc one for x86 08.19.33 # where are those defined then? 08.20.13 # make mkamsboot-ppc 08.20.26 # ah 08.20.36 # hello 08.20.43 # hi dionoea 08.23.39 # i have a question about upgrading the hard drive of the gigabeat F series. if you upgrade it and build you own version or rockbox do you still have 2 partitions in the file view? the way it sounds on the BigDisk wiki page is this 2 partitions only applies to archos devices 08.25.07 Quit psycho_maniac (Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-) 08.25.19 Join psycho_maniac [0] (HydraIRC@230.sub-75-222-0.myvzw.com) 08.25.31 # i have a question about upgrading the hard drive of the gigabeat F series. if you upgrade it and build you own version or rockbox do you still have 2 partitions in the file view? the way it sounds on the BigDisk wiki page is this 2 partitions only applies to archos devices 08.25.49 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 08.25.52 # Zagor: what's shaky about depending on directories, something to do with the modification timestamp ? 08.26.48 # psycho_maniac: this whole BigDisk page seems to apply only to Archos 08.26.58 # yes. I don't remember the problem exactly but I've had problems with trying that in the past. better to always depend on the files. 08.27.24 # I'm tweaking that Makefile a bit right now. I'll get back with a suggestion in a minute. 08.27.26 Join kadoban [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 08.27.30 # but you still have to build your own version or rockbox yes? 08.28.22 # i think you have to if the hard disk is bigger than 160GB, not sure since i never did that 08.28.51 # New commit by 03tomers (r24766): Brickmania: Use constants for number of bricks rows and columns, and for number of levels 08.29.07 # Zagor: i was thinking instead of "all: $(OUTPUT)" use "all:\n mkdir $(OUTPUT)" 08.29.21 # yeah i found a 240gb hd i might put in my gigabeat F series mp3 player, or i might get a S series and put it in there, but i think there are issues with the S series. 08.29.46 # psycho_maniac: You have to build an LBA48-enabled version of rockbox, but you don't need multivolume and two partitions 08.30.20 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.30.44 # On archos this is necessary because the usb-ata bridge doesn't do lba48. Gigabeat F uses a hardware bridge as well iirc, but a newer version that knows about lba48 08.31.39 # so do or dont you have to build your own version for rockbox players with disk drives higher then 160? 08.32.05 # < amiconn> psycho_maniac: You have to build an LBA48-enabled version of rockbox 08.32.30 # New commit by 03tomers (r24767): Brickmania: Use constant for default value and rename variable of flip-sides delay 08.32.32 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.32.36 # what is the downside of having lba48 enabled by default? 08.32.44 # oops sorry missed that. but you wont have 2 partitions with the gigabeat F series? 08.33.07 # you don't need to 08.33.21 # Zagor: i think they disable it because most players are not over 160gbs 08.33.31 # Zagor: i'd think binsize 08.34.04 # but not much it seems (according to ata.c) 08.34.13 # I think we should perhaps reconsider that. disks are increasingly going over the lba limit these days. 08.34.41 # no static buffers, only a boolean and a set of commands 08.35.01 # and yes, I would not expect the binsize difference to be significant. do you know more, amiconn? 08.35.48 # New commit by 03tomers (r24768): Brickmania: Forgotten one more hard-coded value 08.36.58 # New commit by 03tomers (r24769): Brickmania: Remove spaces at the end of line 08.37.07 # Zagor: We could enable it by default for all but archos 08.37.37 # yes, that sounds reasonable 08.37.44 # i will agree that mp3 players disk space have increased but supported rockbox players disks have not really increased. unless they start supporting mp3 players with disk drives higher then 160 then i could see this enabled by default 08.38.00 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.71) 08.38.20 # psycho_maniac: they don't come with it from the factory, but people often upgrade their drives 08.38.42 # As a Related thing, I'd really like to fix the large-physical sector mess for ipod video, but LinusN's is still @ Nico_P (afaik), and the latter hasn't been around for a few months 08.38.45 # and we should support that out of the box, unless there's a technical reason not to. 08.39.05 # bluebrother: what do you think of linking to Sandisk forums in rbutilqt::BootloaderInstallAms::ofHint ? You can download the standalone firmware on their forums 08.39.12 # when my gigabeat F40 was coming in the mail. a bigger hard drive was also in the mail 08.39.32 # i agree. is there a technical reason why the bigger disk size is not enabled by default? 08.39.40 # Zagor: That large-physical-sector thing is related because many of the >128GB disks have those, and even larger than 1024 byte 08.39.51 # amiconn: good point 08.39.56 # psycho_maniac: the reason is it isn't supported on Archos, but other models could have it enabled by default 08.40.14 # But their firmware is able to handle splitting/joining themselves, and that's better than handling it in rockbox 08.40.29 # so it could be implemented all the players but archos? 08.40.45 # amiconn: if you want to work on the big-sector support, buy a used ipod. the fund pays. 08.40.55 # So the proper way would be to probe the disk for this, and only enable the handling in rockbox if the drive actually needs it 08.41.38 # That is, try a 512-byte read and check whether the disk replies with IDNF 08.42.20 # If it does, enable own handling. It may need a reset, that's what needs testing 08.43.20 # maybe this could be put in the summer of code? 08.44.28 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host154-132-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.44.58 # in order for me to get the 240gb hd i want i need a ata to zif adapter and it seems those are hard to come by. well alteast to fit in the mp3 players case. 08.47.05 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.55.57 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.56.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.57.06 # * funman just spotted big problem in mkamsboot dualboot.S: the code assumes r3 is untouched in the button checks 08.57.27 # what letters do you see here? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=verificationcode;rand=17515e6537326dc218f1be6a4c04ebaa 08.57.29 # luckily it is not used, but i didn't remember this requirement 08.57.52 # psycho_maniac: page doesn't load 08.59.34 # maybe its only viewable to me. i could only see a B and Maybe a X but thats all but it told me i was wrong. 08.59.47 # try again 09.00.31 # i did like numerious times. i just sent a PM intead. that was only for email. 09.01.02 # the captcha doesn't change when you refresh the page ? 09.01.24 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 09.01.44 # no it didnt. i even did "ctrl+F5" 09.05.47 # funman: It also assumes r5 is untouched AFAICS 09.06.12 # ranmachan: true, but since r5 can be calculated from r3 we can move the calculation at the end 09.06.45 # funman: do you have an osx machine to test build on? 09.07.10 # Zagor: yes i can use videolan machine 09.07.30 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.08.02 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@140.77.26.40) 09.09.42 # New commit by 03zagor (r24770): Tweaked dependencies a bit 09.09.45 # funman: can you try this? 09.09.56 # sure 09.13.33 # looks fine 09.16.34 # ranmachan: i have a jtag adapter i never used, would it help you ? 09.18.08 # a wiggler with // port 09.21.51 # funman: I don't have a parallel port on my notebook here 09.21.59 Quit ecio (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 09.22.04 # Otherwise I'd just build a simple wiggler :) 09.22.14 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 09.23.07 # And AFAIK USB to parallel adaptes are no good (the spec is really just for attaching printers and not doing more low-level stuff) 09.23.47 # I do have the HW I need in germany, but not here in japan 09.24.58 # But since I know at least one person at the hacker space here has the adapter I need it's just a matter of time and coordination :) 09.25.25 # ok :) 09.25.53 # can you upload arbitrary large code to memory or do you have to patch instruction per instruction ? 09.26.35 # I haven't used openocd before, but I'm pretty sure you can upload arbitrary binary blobs. It can take a while to do that though. 09.27.56 Quit TopyMobile__ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.29.06 # if you used a too large dualbout.c but only the 'old' size defined in dualboot.h i believe only uploading the older dualboot.c would be enough since packed OF and bootloader are already in ram 09.29.39 # who is CIA-8? 09.29.42 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.29.45 # a bot 09.30.07 # nice! sorry i havent been around this irc chat in a LONG tiem 09.31.29 # well good night 09.31.30 Quit psycho_maniac (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client) 09.32.18 # funman: Yeah that's what I thought too. 09.34.26 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 09.36.41 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.37.39 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 09.40.47 Join TopyMobile__ [0] (~topy@f054226008.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.43.43 # someone with a clipv2 who wants to run some code ? 09.47.10 # the Clip+ boots with iram mapped at 0x0, but not the Clipv2, and i'd like to determine the size of iram 09.48.12 # funman: i can, but i might be a bit getting back to you (but not days;) 09.58.04 Quit karashata (Quit: The fluffy dragon has left completely!) 09.59.09 # Unhelpful: http://pastie.org/832379 <- this writes and then read all iram, i started with the same size than as3525(v1) : 0x50000 bytes, could you check with larger sizes as well? 10.03.28 # heh, make sure not to strip the trailing LF from your patches ;) 10.04.22 # http://pastie.org/832379.txt shows the 3 trailing lines, what's wrong? 10.05.51 # funman: maybe pastie mangled it, actually... but git apply didn't like the missing linefeed at EOF 10.06.17 # hm ok, sorry :/ 10.07.36 # i need to use the bootloader.bin with mkamsboot, not the bootloader-clipv2.sansa, right? 10.07.51 # no, you need bootloader-clipv2.sansa 10.07.58 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.08.22 # bootloader-clipv2.sansa is bootloader.bin with a header added by tools/scramble: the header consists of a 32 bits checksum and a 32 bits model ID which is also hardcoded in mkamsboot 10.08.45 # that way you don't write an e200v2 bootloader to a clipv1 OF 10.12.18 # Unhelpful: i suppose the IRAM size is the same, so 0x50000 should work and 0x50004 should fail 10.15.55 # Unhelpful: it could hang because 0x81000000 is an alias for 0x0 and code modifies itself 10.16.04 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.16.25 # funman: suggestions? 10.16.38 # can you replace the whole test with: 10.17.16 # int *ram = (int*)main; int *iram = (int*)((int)main + 0x81000000); and print *ram & *iram each on a line ? 10.17.44 # funman: maybe i can do that later :) 10.18.02 # sure, you prefer a patch ? 10.19.54 # nah, it'll just be a bit, i have other things i need to do, too 10.21.49 # funman: even if the test hangs shouldn't it clear the display? 10.22.03 # hm right 10.24.13 # it could lock in backlight_init, not sure what happens :/ 10.25.00 Quit Tomis (Quit: Tomis) 10.27.07 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.29.50 Join huelk [0] (~huelk@dtmd-4db25446.pool.mediaWays.net) 10.32.13 # funman: hrm, but removing backlight_init hangs w/ a black screen :/ 10.33.00 # i remember you had run some code in init_storage so that time it didn't hang 10.34.37 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 10.35.36 # yah, it sometimes repeated the same values indefinitely and gave an ata error and sometimes output whatever it was you were trynig to find out... 10.37.38 # some fun in porting in perspective :) 10.39.08 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 10.44.14 Quit linuxstb (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.45.42 # funman: adding a printf("START TEST") at the beginning clears the LCD and displays the text 10.46.07 # i'll wait a while for the test to complete and then i'll try your suggestion 10.46.51 # ah, lcd_clear_display() doesn't run lcd_update() but printf() does 10.47.28 # apparently. and then if the test doesn't finish, either because i didn't wait long enough, or because it hanged... 10.56.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.15 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 11.06.34 # lcd_clear_display() isn't suppsed to update, same as all other drawing functions 11.07.04 # printf() is a special bootloader-only function that combines drawing and updating 11.07.57 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 11.08.08 Quit petur (Quit: linux has given up again :() 11.11.17 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.16.51 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@94-10.anonymous.at.anonine.com) 11.20.58 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.25.30 Quit huelk (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.27.56 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 11.29.34 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.31.44 Quit jfc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.32.08 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 11.42.18 # there's also a dependencies problem in rbutilqt 11.42.46 # lang resource is unconditionally remade, and rbutilqt depends on it 11.46.50 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.47.43 # looks like linguist-qt4 is always run but i can't tell what runs it 11.52.36 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 11.59.01 Quit crwl (Quit: paikat paskax) 12.01.17 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8FCCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.02.40 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/WinterChipV =ooo Ï¢INTER ϾHIP 5iVE is OOON!!) 12.07.17 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 12.11.21 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.15.15 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.22.03 Join chriskyte [0] (~d925a58a@giant.haxx.se) 12.23.33 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8FCCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.24.14 # Hi, Appoliges if i am asking this in the wrong place but i am new to rockbox and have recently installed on Iriver H120. Have tried the CF mod with 32GB card and am receiving an ATA -80 error. Can anyone help? Thanks 12.35.14 Join ucchan [0] (~ucchan@softbank219205175105.bbtec.net) 12.43.54 # I will commit the patch concerning wave codec (FS#10424, FS#10425) tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. 12.44.03 # Please give comments to me when there are problems of committing. 12.45.49 Quit ucchan (Quit: Leaving...) 12.47.15 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133108225.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.56.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.05.34 Quit chriskyte (Quit: CGI:IRC) 13.06.02 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 13.11.03 # someone with an e200v2 willing to test a mkamsboot patch ? (and unbrick the device if the patch is bad) i can't get skyeye to run properly 13.12.47 Join huelk [0] (~huelk@dtmd-4db25446.pool.mediaWays.net) 13.13.33 # http://pastie.org/832562 13.13.49 Quit cjcopi (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.14.17 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@charon.craig.copi.org) 13.15.41 Join TheSeven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 13.17.14 Quit parafin (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.18.51 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 13.24.07 # Is there a way to disable booting into the original firmware on an iPod Video? 13.24.22 # I keep forgetting the lock switch on when I connect it to a computer 13.27.27 # Not easily 13.27.37 # you can edit the bootloader to not respect the lock switch 13.27.56 # or you can remove the bootloader entirely and just put rockbox in the firmware partition, but that means you have to mess about with ipodpatcher every time you update 13.28.18 # actually, i can probably give you such a bootloader if you want :) 13.28.57 # since i have exactly that modification on my ipod 13.29.23 # how would I go about installing it? 13.29.28 # the problem is that if you boot rockbox with the hold switch on then the settings will get reset 13.29.35 # so it's not really much better 13.29.40 # ok that's even worse :D 13.29.46 # I *also* use a versoin of rockbox modified not to do that either 13.29.46 # because I keep forgetting it on 13.30.00 # So yeah 13.30.12 # No, not unless you are goingto use a custom build of rockbox and hte bootloader forever. 13.30.45 # sorry, i forgot about htat ;) 13.37.29 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 13.39.47 Quit martian67 (Quit: Leaving) 13.40.05 Join martian67 [0] (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) 13.52.33 # New commit by 03tomers (r24771): Brickmania: Use defines for score values 13.53.24 Quit cjcopi (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.53.56 Quit tomers (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100214235838]) 13.55.58 Join Xerion_ [0] (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 13.58.20 Quit martian67 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.58.36 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.58.37 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 13.58.55 Part linuxstb ("Leaving") 14.03.50 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-220-42.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.05.09 Quit Sajber^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.06.08 Join martian67 [0] (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) 14.07.50 Quit Tuplis (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.09.02 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@95-195.anonymous.at.anonine.com) 14.12.32 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@140.77.26.40) 14.12.44 Join wodz [0] (~c21d9c6b@giant.haxx.se) 14.15.18 # hello, Is there some way to instruct m68k-elf-gdb to print constants in hexadecimal in disassembly output? Currently if I run x /1i 8 I have 0x8: movew #9984,%sr how to force 9984 to be represented in hex? 14.21.51 # funman: I tested your mkamsboot patch. It created a proper firmware update and did not brick my e260v2. 14.29.09 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 14.30.34 Join Tuplis [0] (~jani@adsl-77-109-221-158.kymp.net) 14.31.15 Join Blue_Dude [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-235-206-131.mco.bellsouth.net) 14.32.28 # I would like to add a key action to the tree screen. 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I'm not worthy! 15.38.22 # Sorry for trashing the translations a couple of weeks ago... 15.39.13 # I want to add a delete key to the directory tree. It would work like the delete key in the bookmark menu. 15.39.40 # I hardly ever go into the context menu except to delete something. 15.39.55 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15.40.28 # istn't the tree context already quite crowded (especially on some targets)? 15.43.05 # I'm sure it wouldn't work on some targets: not enough keys left. It's only a convenience anyway, not a replacement for the context menu. 15.43.49 # For instance, on the e200 target, you can tap the REC button to delete a bookmark. Why not do the same thing in the directory tree? 15.45.05 # Why use it for delete, and not for insert in playlist? 15.45.20 # I'll think you'll hit trouble if you arbitrarily asign a button :) 15.47.03 # Well, it's just a fer instance. 15.47.28 # And REC was already assigned for a similar purpose, so... 15.48.37 # I don't follow the last sentence 15.49.46 # You can press REC in the bookmark menu to delete a bookmark. So the assignment isn't arbitrary but follows an established pattern. 15.50.43 # It is arbitrary compared to the other (IMO more useful) functions that could be put on a spare button 15.51.11 # And I don't think one (quite different) screen constitutes an established pattern 15.51.52 # * gevaerts thinks that REC in the file screen should obviously start a recording 15.51.58 # * Blue_Dude shrugs. 15.52.01 # gevaerts: long rec does I think 15.52.26 Quit froggymana (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.52.32 # Blue_Dude: All I'm saying is that if you intend to do something like that it'd be a good idea to bring it up on e.g. the mailing list first 15.52.48 # I'm just going with my own experience. I almost never go into the contect menu except to delete something. 15.53.13 # Sure, I understand that 15.53.22 # But I never delete stuff on the DAP 15.53.32 # And I thought you were talking about committing this change 15.53.42 # If not, sorry, ignore me 15.54.02 # No, not at all. 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I'm not 100% sure how to do it either. 15.54.18 # heh, OK then :) 15.54.27 # Just trying to decide if it's worth the effort. 15.56.04 # New commit by 03teru (r24774): add manual for bmp viewer plugin. 16.08.54 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 16.11.23 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 16.17.22 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 16.21.30 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 16.27.05 # gevaerts: short Rec once changed to the recording screen from e.g. the WPS on the c200 and I found it too easily to hit accidentally 16.27.18 # so it was changed to long Rec 16.27.57 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 16.29.06 Join mt_ [0] (~mtee@41.233.153.65) 16.30.35 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.36.31 Quit TheSeven (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]) 16.38.22 Nick mt_ is now known as mt (~mtee@41.233.153.65) 16.38.33 Quit mt (Changing host) 16.38.33 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 16.40.14 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-071-070-228-008.nc.res.rr.com) 16.42.44 # do we know how the tv out works in ipod 4g/5g? 16.42.59 # Torne: there's a patch for tvout on 5g on the tracker 16.43.08 # i've found some weird references in the firmware that seem to be controlling a tv encoder over i2c 16.43.08 # by Boris 16.43.14 # Yah, that only programs the BCM though 16.43.43 # doesn't BCM control TV out? 16.43.53 # not on ipod photo at least, it doesn't have one 16.44.22 # ah ok. 16.44.24 # i've found some code in the bootloader on 5.5g which accesses an i2c device we don't use 16.44.32 # and google suggests that it might be a video encoder chip 16.44.44 # and the values it reads/writes from the device are consistent with the datasheet for that encoder 16.44.52 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.45.13 # it's not exactly conclusive becuase all it's doing is basically putting it to sleep and otherwise arranging for it to do nothing ;) 16.45.22 # but it does poke all the right bits to set it up to do nothing. 16.45.36 # could rockbox be made for the ipod touch> 16.45.45 # yes 16.45.46 # it could. 16.46.20 # ah 16.46.47 # dionoea: i suspect the video encoder is still there on the ipod video, it's likely separate to the actual BCM video processor 16.46.50 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-102-229.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.46.58 # Torne, interesting! We've seen cases in the past were the original manufacturer did not enable certain parts that rockbox can, like SDHC support on the v1 sansas and radio on some sansa c200v1's 16.47.00 # it may be that the BCM programs the video encoder itself though 16.47.07 # Torne: maybe, I don't have the slighest clue :) 16.47.13 # since i2c can be multiple master 16.47.20 # bertrik: the OF does use it 16.47.36 # you can plug the ipod photo and later into a suitable dock cable and display pictures/videos on a TV 16.47.40 # in the OF. 16.48.03 # i found the hint about what the device might be in an ancient irc log from ipodlinux 16.48.12 # but they didn't talk about it very much, just mentoined what chip it was at that i2c address 16.48.24 # the datasheet is public though and as i say it matches the superficial use in the bootloader 16.49.48 # does it need some configuration other than what is sent over i2c? if it doesn't it should be that hard to get it working, especially if we have access to a datasheet 16.50.09 # not sure. i didn't read the datasheet much 16.50.48 # but on the photo at least i can't imagine it's very complicated 16.50.52 # there's no seperate video processor there 16.51.11 # it's just an encoder chip, it doesn't have a framebuffer in it 16.51.28 # (i think) 16.52.35 # hm, maybe it is only the photo which has this chip 16.52.44 # the apple bootloader is a bit of a horrible mishmash, it may support both 16.52.52 # it's http://www.analog.com/en/digital-to-analog-converters/video-encoders/adv7179/products/product.html anyway 16.53.23 # the encoder probably is built into the bcm on the video 16.55.46 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.56.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.37 Quit Blue_Dude (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]) 17.10.02 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 17.18.09 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.24.18 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 17.32.58 Quit Bagder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 17.34.20 # New commit by 03tomers (r24775): FS#10485 - Some changes for brickmania 17.37.00 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 17.44.32 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.55.31 Join Blue_Dude [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-235-206-131.mco.bellsouth.net) 17.57.30 # Wow, what happened to simulator playback? I haven't tried to build one in a while, but it ain't working anymore. It chokes on wav files now, blanks the background, other oddities. What happened? 18.11.17 Join AusShir [0] (~Owner@67-225-122-155.nbfr.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 18.11.57 Part AusShir 18.14.26 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.17.31 Quit Blue_Dude (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]) 18.23.36 # what a difference in today's commit message verbosity 18.24.42 # I'd like to know what the brickmania changes do (and if and how they could affect look and gameplay on the different displays - and if that was tested a bit :\ ) 18.29.01 # * gevaerts agrees 18.35.57 Join Unhelpful_ [0] (~quassel@pool-71-173-205-32.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 18.35.57 Quit Unhelpful_ (Changing host) 18.35.57 Join Unhelpful_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 18.36.48 Quit Unhelpful (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.37.54 # there is some in the linked FS entry but still weird having to look someplace else 18.41.11 # pixelma: I agree too, and thought that when I saw the message 18.42.10 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.45.26 Join sudoman [0] (~d8ecfceb@gateway/web/freenode/x-ysvfczqjpzreluuf) 18.47.53 Join bimbel [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.48.30 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.48.36 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.53.48 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.56.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.57.57 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.01.07 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 19.04.08 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 19.04.53 Join uep [0] (~uep@c-68-36-15-133.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 19.05.43 # Hey guys... just thought I'd let you guys know that the link for the Graphical installer for Linux (64 bit x86) doesn't work. 19.05.54 # I get a 404 - Not Found. 19.06.01 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.06.19 # From this page http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility#Download 19.10.37 # its actually http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/linux/rbutilqt-v1.2.5-64bit.tar.bz2 19.11.54 # I found it from browsing the downloads, but I thought I'd point out that the link doesn't work. 19.12.35 # Unfortunately, the installer doesn't work for my H10 though. 19.13.06 # I get the dreaded "To restore the system files, connect H10 to the recovery tool." 19.13.14 # ok fixed the wiki 19.13.24 # I had this problem before and installed manually without problem, looks like I'll have to do it again. 19.17.19 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-222-234.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 19.26.08 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 19.27.03 Quit TheSphinX^ (Quit: XChat) 19.27.13 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C86D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.37.25 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.39.29 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.39.42 # Argh. Not as simple as I had hoped. Why do these things never *just* work for me. :-/ 19.44.01 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.44.55 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 19.47.10 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-222-234.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 19.48.46 # is there a reason FS#6697 isn't currently implemented? 19.52.53 # At a guess - it isn't finished/done correctly/nobody with commit access has reviewed it/insert other reason here 19.53.39 # i would test it, but i can't get the cross-compiler to build on my ppc mac. 19.54.16 Part watto 19.54.21 Nick Guest57407 is now known as ecio1 (~Moo@adsl-065-081-069-051.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 19.55.27 Join efyx_ [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 20.00.20 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 20.02.04 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 20.02.08 Quit Bagder (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.02.54 Join TheSeven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.03.07 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 20.06.51 Quit uep (Quit: Leaving) 20.07.06 # TheSeven: How's the norboot progress? 20.08.44 # piotrekm: I would consider it mostly done 20.08.53 # it still needs a foolproof installation procedure though 20.09.02 # that's good 20.09.39 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 20.10.43 # bluebrother: what exactly needs testing with the RbUtil on MacOS 10.4 - and can I get it from the link you pasted yesterday 20.10.45 # ? 20.14.41 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.16.29 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.19.50 # Does anyone have an iTrip fm transmitter for nano2g? it seems to be working only on the of (using nano's lcd), i wonder if it would take much to support it in rockbox 20.20.35 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 20.20.37 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.20.41 # you would probably need to implement the uart 20.20.45 # shouldn't be hard 20.20.48 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.20.48 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 20.21.01 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.21.05 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.22.14 # s/you/one , then it shouldn't be hard;> 20.23.02 # it seems to match the specs, besides the fact that the baud rate divisor reg is only 8 bits instead of 16 20.23.13 # we used that to dump the firmware once 20.23.52 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@94-193-103-239.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 20.23.53 Quit linuxstb (Changing host) 20.23.53 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.24.59 # but you don't mean it's a matter of changing one value? 20.25.17 # probably it's adding some 50 lines of code 20.25.24 Join Linux1Slacker [0] (~d8c942dc@giant.haxx.se) 20.25.48 Quit Schmogel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20.26.30 # anyone know where i can get iriver firmware downloads??? 20.27.49 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@c-f23271d5.012-155-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.28.16 Quit Sajber^ (Client Quit) 20.28.50 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@93-252.anonymous.at.anonine.com) 20.29.23 Quit Sajber^ (Client Quit) 20.29.30 # anyone know where i can get iriver firmware downloads??? 20.29.53 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@93-252.anonymous.at.anonine.com) 20.30.12 Quit linuxstb (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.30.20 # Linux1Slacker: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverBoot#Download_and_extract_a_recent_ve 20.31.25 Quit Linux1Slacker (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.31.49 Join Linux1Slacker [0] (~d8c942dc@giant.haxx.se) 20.32.15 # srry thanks Alex 20.33.09 # no problem 20.34.57 Quit Linux1Slacker (Client Quit) 20.37.09 # AlexP: just to be annoying, I've update the fm patch again. can you tell me if you think its updating too often/not enough? 20.37.22 # pixelma: the peakmeters should update correctly now, please let me know if it doesnt 20.37.24 # The task or the patch? :) 20.37.34 # The task is being uodated quite often enough thanks :) 20.37.57 # But yeah, I'll try shortly :) 20.38.24 # ta 20.42.00 # hmm... can't find out how to select a folder (or even root) of my connected M5 on the Mac for generating .talk files. The "select folder" dialogue only shows the root of the system and I can't find the connected volumes there :\ 20.42.19 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection timed out) 20.42.46 # autodetecting the M5 in general seems to work in the RbUtil, though 20.43.08 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 20.45.21 # pixelma: try /Volumes/IPOD/whatever 20.45.30 # but use the volume name instead of IPOD 20.45.49 # I can't find it in the list there (in RbUtil) 20.45.58 # oh it's a gui? 20.46.17 # yes, rbutil 20.47.08 # I mean the "browse folders" (or however it is called in english) on the generate .talk files tab 20.48.23 # installing a theme worked correctly nonetheless, so the Utility definitely knows about the connected M5 20.48.30 Quit _zic (Quit: Ex-Chat) 20.49.43 # yeah, i see what you mean. /Volumes is normally hidden in the finder, so the dialogue must be hiding hidden folders 20.50.39 # ah ok, should it work if I set the finder to show hidden files? 20.50.52 # in Qt apps you can usually show those anyway by right-clicking I think, but I'm not sure how that works on mac 20.51.45 # pixelma: don't now. 20.52.09 # it's worth trying I guess 20.52.27 # right-clicking where? And you know, the concept of two (or more) button mice came quite late to the Macs... 20.52.30 # i'm just noting the similarity with the finder. don't know if it's a program setting or the system and how that could be changed 20.52.40 # try ctrl-click 20.53.21 # * gevaerts can't remember :\ 20.53.29 # the file listing or something like that 20.54.21 # also clicking the drop-down triangle in the dialog is really slow the first time you click it. it hangs the dialog but there's no spinning beachball. 20.54.22 # I can't find a simple file listing there 20.55.10 # pixelma: type /Volumes in the text box next to the browse button, then click browse 20.55.57 # ah, thanks. That worked :) 20.56.06 # then click the device name, click ok, then type /.rockbox then click browse, then select your folder ; ) 20.56.17 # because .rockbox is hidden too. 20.56.35 # you're not very likely to need talk files for things inside .rockbox 20.56.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.56.46 # well, I don't have my music in my .rockbox folder 20.57.07 # ok, i thought that was for the install directory or something 20.59.26 # as I said, autodetecting and intalling themes work. Things where the Utility choses the folder by itself. 21.01.38 # * pixelma still wishes the "generate talk files" would stay and not go all the way back to the accessibility tab - or at least keep all its settings 21.12.23 Join freddyb [0] (~fred@pool-68-238-8-141.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.13.08 # Has anyone tried (successfuly) building the crosscompiler on mac os x? 21.13.26 # on intel it shuold work fine 21.13.31 # on PPC its browen 21.13.34 # borken 21.15.34 # JdGordon: also with rockboxdev.sh, or manually? with rockboxdev i get http://pastebin.com/m23c46fe8 21.16.03 # with rockboxdev 21.16.38 # i'm not positive, but i think i got similar errors trying to run rockboxdev.sh as when i attempted to build gcc4.0.3 on my own. so i'm trying to build gcc4.0.4 with macports. if it works, it could give insight into what flags might need to be used to get rockboxdev.sh to work. 21.17.41 # yeah, now i noticed the arm-elf part built ok, only the gcc 4 failed 21.18.56 # JdGordon_: Anything I should be looking for in particular? It all looks fine 21.19.04 # I traced the ui simulator wav file problem to changes in r24689 21.19.19 # AlexP: just that it updates as expceted 21.19.28 # yep, looks like it 21.19.51 # right now it does a full update whenever anything changes instead of partial, but I dont think thats a big deal 21.20.01 # unlike the wps, the fms is pretty damn static 21.20.24 # From an outward perspective it all looks fine 21.20.42 # bluebrother: ok, if the Rockbox Utility would actually have to generate .talk files, it only sits at "Lese Dateiliste" although it fires up the voice over utility 21.23.12 # no... the arm-elf gcc also didn't compile 21.23.25 # nvm, i tried building gcc4.0.4 using macports and apple gcc4.2.1, but it didn't work... 21.23.38 # bluebrother: if I close the latter, RbUtil shows "Kodieren of /tmp/talkfiles/ fehlgeschlagen 21.24.23 # sorry, that's missing a .wav after the hash 21.25.47 # I saved the log if you are interested 21.26.11 # * pixelma goes home now, hence stop testing RbUtil on MacOS 10.4 21.28.45 # AlexP.bat.txt? 21.29.59 Quit sudoman (Quit: Page closed) 21.42.00 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@69.41.192.215) 21.47.54 # mt: there seems to be problems with wave file playback since your atrac3 commit (r24689) - see FS #11038 21.50.26 # New commit by 03alle (r24776): Add some more file extensions to the table of the audio files (FS#11002) 21.51.33 # JdGordon_: The fms patch doesn't seem to compile on H120 - http://pastebin.com/m1f690c87 21.52.10 # one of those lines is missing a R probably 21.53.37 # JdGordon_: yep, both are FMS 21.53.40 Part flyback- 21.53.54 # the one inside HAVE_LCD_REMOTE needs a R 21.54.01 # RFMS 21.54.03 # trying now 21.55.21 # seems fine, cheers 21.58.10 # mc2739: did you see my small complaint about the German update commit? 21.59.23 # pixelma: Yes, I did. I was not aware of that, but it makes perfect sense to me. 22.00.16 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.01.22 # great, thank :) 22.01.34 # or thanks 22.06.16 Quit freddyb (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.08.36 # is cpu scaling already in for the nano2g? 22.09.07 # AlexP: anything you think is missing in the fms patch? 22.09.40 # ah looks like it is 22.10.23 Nick Unhelpful_ is now known as Unhelpful (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 22.13.18 Join Omlet [0] (omlet05@181.154-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 22.14.01 # Hey there! Does anyone know, is there any 3d graphics library for rockbox (for writing plugins)? 22.14.35 # Don't recommend the cube demo :P 22.14.56 Quit jordan` (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.14.56 # there arnt 22.16.15 # but what about void xxx_filltriangle(int x1, int y1, int x2, int y2, int x3, int y3) 3) 3) 3) Fill a triangular area with foreground pixels. Useful for 3-d rendering. 22.16.25 # this is from the manual 22.16.31 # GraphicsAPI 22.16.46 # leavittx: i don't see anything about 3D transformation there ;) 22.16.59 # well, drawing lines is useful for 3-d rendering... 22.17.55 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r24777): Updated Chinese Translation ... 22.17.58 # surely drawiung pixels is more importabnt? 22.18.53 # I wanna something like ogl :) 22.19.05 # then write it! 22.19.14 # (or port mesa) 22.19.41 # ok, there is cube plugin and nothing else 3d, right? 22.20.04 # well, doom is half-3d, but maybe that doesn't count 22.20.17 # 1.5b? 22.20.48 # gevaerts: doom doesn't count :) 22.21.00 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.21.04 # JdGordon_: what is 1.5b? 22.21.14 # leavittx: generic 3D libraries don't work well with software rasterization. 22.21.17 # half-3d :) 22.21.54 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-222-234.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 22.22.55 # surely d/2 == 6.5? 22.24.06 # Unhelpful: well, my Cowon d2 in theory has H/W Video Accelerator/Support 3D 22.26.26 Quit hipy (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.26.26 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-6.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.27.09 Join jfc^2 [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 22.28.34 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@ALyon-551-1-102-229.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.29.30 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.71) 22.29.53 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.32.35 # so what do you think about d2? 22.32.44 # pixelma: thanks for testing. The most interesting question was if it actually runs on 10.4 at all or if it still shows the libusb issue that has been reported in the tracker. 22.33.20 # didn't see problems there with the M5 22.33.32 # pixelma: I'll look into the other issues you mentioned later, but the OS X TTS would be interesting -- once I get it finished. Might happen this weekend :) 22.33.54 # you used the dmg from the link I pasted yesterday, right? 22.34.17 # btw, how to use the whole touchscreen in usual plugins, not lua? I say about d2 again :) 22.35.07 # bluebrother: ok, I misunderstood you there a bit - I thought it was ready for testing (the tts thing). Yes, I used yesterday's dmg 22.35.21 # * bluebrother summons Bagder 22.35.44 # you called good sir? 22.35.46 # Bagder: can you move the file from http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.5/rbutilqt-v1.2.5-1.dmg to the download server and remove the old 1.2.5 dmg? 22.35.51 # will do! 22.36.03 # JdGordon_: Multifont in WPS should work on H120 right? 22.36.04 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C86D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.36.04 # thanks :) 22.36.39 # AlexP: if it doesnt its proably out of skin buffer space 22.36.42 # 2720KB/sec is a nice speed 22.36.59 # indeed. Especially if my upload was the same :) 22.37.07 # oh done btw, 16.5MB in less than 7 seconds 22.37.31 # * bluebrother goes to adjust the wiki 22.37.33 # JdGordon_: It doesn't give me an error (even if I deliberatly misspell the font name), and it says skin bufer 24404/44032 22.37.47 # svn or with patch? 22.37.51 # JdGordon_: This is my test WPS http://pastebin.com/m1be812ab 22.37.59 # JdGordon_: Patch actually, I'll try SVN 22.38.33 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EF21F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.38.35 # is that the main screen or remote? 22.38.46 # main 22.39.06 # interesting... it should be working 22.39.13 # (obviosusly :p ) 22.39.27 # quick question, pixelma or any other X5 expert, has the X5 no battery calibration yet? 22.39.37 # JdGordon_: I'll just try SVN 22.40.07 # pixelma has no X5 sorry 22.40.53 # perfectdrug: it does but Rockbox can't distinguish automatically between an L (large battery) and a simple model 22.41.09 # I have an M5 though which is quite similar 22.41.24 # so does the runtime estimation work? 22.41.28 # Some M5s are more similar than others of course :) 22.42.14 # or does it just not work if you use a bigger battery? 22.42.41 # ah I see X5L 22.42.57 # you can set the bigger capacity, then it should work somewhat. (although Iaudio batteries aren't the longest lasting it seems) 22.43.09 # so is there a extra setting for the X5L 22.43.17 # I mean general lifetime 22.43.46 # petur: hey, did you see my comment on the histogram patch? 22.44.01 # perfectdrug: IIRC the capacity for the L models is the maximum you can set 22.44.25 # JdGordon_: No, not working with SVN either. It just gets ignored - the viewports using font "2" are just using the UI font 22.44.27 # aha ok thanks:) 22.44.33 # * pixelma can actually look what her M5L is set to 22.45.07 # gevaerts: indeed :) 22.45.32 # JdGordon_: yes 22.45.49 # but that doesn't mean I'll pay attention to it :P 22.46.42 # so what about non-3x3 touchscreen mode? :) 22.47.01 # for my plugin 22.47.08 # what about it? 22.47.21 # which is written in c, not lua 22.47.22 # petur: :( 22.47.33 # for my cowon d2 22.47.43 # leavittx: you can put the touchscreen back into stylus mode and use it however you want 22.48.47 # JdGordon_: where can I find any docs/header files/etc about writing such plugin? 22.49.37 # I dont know if there is any 22.49.48 # look at how other plugins do it? 22.49.50 # its something like rb->set_touchscreen_mode() 22.50.07 # then get the raw values from rb->get_touch() or something 22.50.08 # JdGordon_: I promise I will help out with the WRS afterwards, but I'm not going to introduce histogram AND a viewport for it in the same commit. The other things (like peakmeters,..) need their own VP as well when you want to have them like widgets. 22.50.34 # gevaerts: what plugins? only lua plugins do it now! 22.50.45 # then look at the lua plugin! 22.51.38 # petur: fair enough, what about just moving the drawing out and using a simple x,y position instead of a full viewport? 22.52.47 # JdGordon_: sure, I have thought about that, but then for the VP you need to change that code again. Better do it right the first time, no? 22.53.21 # or do we forget about using VP, and just create widgets that get the rectangle coordinates in which they must draw? 22.54.22 # gevaerts: I'll try=) 22.56.45 # petur: the main thing I'm worried about is just adding more drawing code to that already messy loop 22.56.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.56.59 # it just makes it easier later if its not tied in there 22.57.41 # gevaerts: lua/rocklib.c - that's it! 23.03.04 Join freddyb [0] (~fred@pool-68-238-8-141.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.03.45 # JdGordon_: it's not messy, it is just long. It used to be messy before the last rework 23.04.05 # ok 23.06.36 Join knine [0] (~kaniini65@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 23.08.01 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 23.08.04 # can someone update the currentbuild page with this small image? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10947 and commit this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10948 while doing so 23.09.50 # please 23.10.40 Quit kaniini (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.11.29 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.12.07 Quit Sajber^ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.12.52 # zagor did it last time, sorry for the incorrect image the first time 23.15.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 23.15.44 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8F052.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.18.49 # JdGordon_: what's the syntax for the current station now? 23.19.10 # station or preset? 23.19.54 Quit toffe82 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.22.22 # that's very weird to answer as I don't know how you define station or preset (isn't "station" info only supported by RDS targets? So in my head station is the preset as it shows how the radio station is called if you prepared it correctly) on targets without) 23.22.44 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 23.22.44 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.22.47 # try it this way, which tag are you asking about? 23.22.55 # the ones with the X all just had the X removed 23.22.59 # nothing else changed 23.23.18 # %tn is the current preset 23.24.02 # Sorry, %Tn 23.26.49 # I can't exit the radio screen anymore 23.27.08 Join gr1b [0] (~gr1b@c-71-58-106-62.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 23.27.09 # LIES! :) 23.27.19 # do any buttons work? 23.28.53 Quit karashata (Quit: The fluffy dragon has left completely!) 23.29.16 # JdGordon_: Is there anything I can do to investigate H120 multifont? 23.29.44 # you mean other than brushing up on c and learning how the skin engine and fonts all work together? :) 23.29.54 # yeah, other than that :) 23.30.00 # umm 23.30.13 # I meant any obvious things like change a define or something :) 23.30.27 # svn is broken also? 23.30.32 # seems to be 23.30.38 # the font exists? 23.30.40 Join TucknDar [0] (~Miranda@168.146.16.62.customer.cdi.no) 23.30.42 # yep 23.30.52 # and you are actually loading that wps? 23.30.52 # And shouldn't it give an error if it doesn't? 23.31.11 # it should, I don't know if thats hooked up though 23.31.14 # yes - the wps loads but the viewpoer with font "2" just uses the UI font 23.31.47 # So even if the font loading doesn't give an error, the viewport definition should of font 2 isn't loaded right? 23.32.00 # s/of/if/ 23.32.25 # This is on the sim incidently 23.32.36 # the parser should error out if the font doesnt load (for any reason) 23.32.39 # hi, I've encountered a problem when I installed RB on my iPod mini 2g. The I can't click the clickwheel. It works in apple firmware but not with Rockbox. I'd appreciate a solution or something to try :) 23.32.54 # press harder :) 23.33.00 # hehe 23.33.02 # sure 23.33.03 # the viewport will accept a id higher than 1, it just keeps trying the next lower font id untill one is loaded 23.33.16 # TucknDar: do you happen to have replaced the hard drive with a CF card? 23.33.26 # AlexP: do you want to try the sim in gdb? 23.33.28 # OK, so it seems the font isn't loading, but I'm not getting an error 23.33.32 # gevaerts, yes. I was just typing that when you interrupted ;) 23.33.32 # JdGordon_: I can do 23.33.37 # known problem? 23.34.02 # JdGordon_: it's very weird. In the patch's hardcoded FMS all buttons work, if I load an own FMS everything works except "long off" which is exiting the radio (real stop). My own FMS is actually simpler, the biggest difference I think is %wd 23.34.02 # TucknDar: make sure to insert some card or things to make the CF card as thick as the hard drive 23.34.11 # AlexP: b parse_font_load 23.34.22 # then just keep hitting n untill before the return line 23.34.36 # * gevaerts has no idea why rockbox seems to be more sensitive to this than the OF, but that nevertheless seems to be the case 23.34.43 # JdGordon_: the hardcoded one still doesn't change to showing the prerecording time if it is set 23.35.01 # gevaerts, oh, ok. I see. The clickwheel does seem to click further in, so to speak. I'll do that. Thanks! 23.35.11 # somehow I still think about %pm having to be on its own line 23.35.14 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 23.35.29 Join MaadMan [0] (~MaadMan@188-194-48-219-dynip.superkabel.de) 23.35.41 # pixelma: arg, I hope it doesnt have to be on its own line 23.35.43 # peakmeters seem to update correctly now though 23.35.50 # JdGordon_: You're assuming slightly too much here :) 23.36.08 # yeah, umm... nano doesnt show line numbers 23.36.20 # AlexP: file a bug and I'll investigate on sunday 23.36.25 # OK, cheers :) 23.36.34 # It seems the easiest solution :) 23.36.37 # I'll remove the %wd 23.36.56 # that shouldnt make a difference 23.37.01 # interesting to know if it does thoguh 23.37.58 Quit Tomis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.38.18 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.71) 23.43.19 # it doesn't 23.43.32 Join anethema [0] (~whein@200.95.162.194) 23.44.28 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.45.15 # pixelma: can you post your fms on the tracker with a short description of the problem? 23.46.17 # i cant tihnk of any reason why the stop button would stop working 23.46.23 # I can though I doubt it's the FMS because it is a very simple one and other than that it works 23.46.25 # especially if al other buttons work fine 23.47.00 # can you add %pm to your one and see if that breaks it? 23.47.15 # or makes it work even 23.48.59 # for all of those who got the "reported post" email re:Job Van Dam's signature - it has been fixed (removed) and more importantly I have notified him - so let's not send him duplicate emails. 23.49.22 # * JdGordon_ is now curios :p 23.49.27 Join archivator [0] (~archivato@stu0279.keble.ox.ac.uk) 23.49.38 # Unhelpful: ping 23.50.34 # The problem was his sig was an image (small in size) hosted on some free server. His account ran out and they replaced it (the sig image) with a HUGE advertisement. Why does the forum code allow for massive sig images? 23.53.02 # JdGordon_: there already is %pm and it is broke - I could try if removing it helps but as I said, the hardcoded one in your patch works and contains %p. Next test is a blank FMS or just text to see if it is only important if you have an own fms or not 23.54.26 # the reason I mentinoed %pm is because that actually does change the button handling code 23.54.30 # JdGordon_: Sorry, was in the wrong channnel - p id $1 = -1 p font_ids[i] No symbol "i" in current context. p font_ids[id] $2 = 3 23.55.01 # but while at it I noticed something. The line "%?Rr<%Sx|Time:| %Rh:%Rn:%Rs|" from your patch doesn't show up at all, no matter if you are recording or not - I see the peakmeters right below the progressbar 23.55.42 # AlexP: a few lines up if if (id <= FONT_UI || ....) 23.55.59 # can you change that to id < SYSTEMFONTCOUNT and try again please? 23.56.01 # there's no \n at the end as in the other lines 23.56.11 # JdGordon_: yep 23.56.12 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.71) 23.56.37 # pixelma: that is split to make it more readable, it should be one line in the skin code, so thats correct 23.56.43 # the contioinal shuold wor though 23.57.25 Quit ecio1 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.57.33 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 23.58.05 # oh, that belongs together with the prerecording/peakmeter line 23.58.45 # I tried my best to convert the c code to skin