--- Log for 23.02.110 Server: wolfe.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.08 # hm, fft plugin is pretty weird actually 00.00.11 # saratoga: the problem is the semantic. what if there are two files with the same names ? And two directories ? 00.00.28 # we've been over this a lot of times now 00.00.35 # it seems to think rb->pcm_get_peak_buffer returns interleaves samples, but it does not 00.00.48 # you merge directories, and if you have two files with the same name you ignore one duplicate 00.01.14 # which one ? 00.01.19 # i don't think it matters 00.01.21 # saratoga: How do you know they're duplicates? 00.01.27 # they have the same name 00.01.34 # XBMC does this for music and it works great 00.01.35 # saratoga: I disagree. You could have a priority scheme. 00.01.52 # You could probably do clever things with that 00.02.04 # well yeah thats probably more efficient then calling rand, but i don't see that its all that important what the scheme is 00.02.27 # * JdGordon1 adds it 00.02.33 # Because you don't want a random fs ! 00.02.41 # why not? 00.02.52 # Then call it randomfs :) 00.03.16 # if you have the same folder and file name on both your SD and internal memory, its probably because you accidentally copied the same album to both 00.03.34 # i don't see that the choice of which to play really matters, unless internal is somehow faster or more efficient then external 00.04.19 Quit veeloc (Remote host closed the connection) 00.04.46 # For example (not audio file), you could have a fallback version on the internal storage and an up to date version on your SD card. If you insert the SD, you have the up to date version, if not, you still have the fallback version. 00.05.31 # yes, and especially in the bootloader. boot from sd if its there, or internal otherwise 00.05.42 # I think people using rockbox as a text editor are few and far between 00.05.48 # or read from internal and write to sd 00.05.53 # so we should probably be assuming people use it for media files 00.06.41 # saratoga: I personnaliy don't like the unionfs idea but some schemes make much more sense than just "pick a random one" 00.09.02 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 00.10.36 Quit ecio (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.10.41 # i didn't say to use random, I said it doesn't matter what you decide to do 00.10.47 # As gevaerts said, we just need to clearly define the semantics up front, and try to think of all these corner cases. I can see it being useful (although I don't use any targets with card slots) 00.11.30 # The semantics can be user defined ! We which config file to use then ;) 00.11.35 # *But which 00.11.45 # both! 00.12.06 # And how do you decice ? 00.12.15 # Make a user defined priority between then ;-) 00.12.36 # with boot arguments of course! 00.13.04 # * pamaury don't understand 00.13.08 # *doesn't 00.13.14 # (thta was a silly response) 00.13.28 # either seperate bootloaders hardcoded to choose 00.13.33 # A button press on boot. 00.13.34 # or a button press chooses the order 00.13.44 # Something like "press ^ << >> ^ ^ on boot to have internal priority" 00.14.32 # SHARUKIN 00.16.26 # Or on each boot, the device call saratoga to ask him ;) 00.16.28 # good night! 00.16.39 # goodnight 00.16.46 Quit Buschel () 00.21.20 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.21.23 Quit bertrik (Quit: De groeten) 00.22.50 Join TheSeven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.23.56 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 00.28.51 Join old-landen_ [0] (~chatzilla@frg-137-18.frg.eur.nl) 00.30.18 Quit old-landen (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.30.19 Nick old-landen_ is now known as old-landen (~chatzilla@frg-137-18.frg.eur.nl) 00.30.51 # ah, I think I've found the problem in fft plugin. kiss_fftr performs TWO real-valued ffts, and it assumes that the two real-valued ffts are interleaved. But, because the fft plugin just copies one channel into the (complex) buffer, it means the sampling frequency is half what the author thinks it is, causing the frequency reflection. 00.41.10 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 00.42.02 Quit kadoban (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.42.27 Join kadoban [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 00.42.40 Quit Schmogel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.43.45 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCB883.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.45.41 # New commit by 03stripwax (r24865): kiss_fftr appears to perform two real-valued ffts in parallel -- so feed it only one signal of size N/2 (as opposed to splitting a single signal of ... 00.46.23 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.46.49 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 00.47.07 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.51.50 Quit mt (Remote host closed the connection) 00.53.46 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87.196.31.72) 00.54.21 # hello :-) 00.54.48 # can anyone tell me if ARM Cortex M3 would run Rockbox? or Rockbox just run on ARM9? 00.54.53 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.55.18 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 00.56.16 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.56.29 # and could Rockbox run with 2MB RAM? or 4MB ram? 00.56.53 # Casainho: cortex m3 should be compatible with older arm cpus, right? 00.57.10 # it would need some fine-tuning as usual, but it should be doable 00.57.24 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 00.57.24 # TheSeven: I don't know if is compatible or not. Maybe Rockbox have asm code just for ARM9? 00.57.37 # 2mb would be a little tight, but rockbox is running on some 2mb devices (with limited features, buffering etc.) 00.57.59 # 4mb should be fine 00.58.08 # because ARM Cortex is now cheap and run at 100MHz... and it is easy to make a board for it instead ARM9 00.58.24 # Casainho: afaik every arm9 instruction will also work on cortex 00.58.34 Quit JdGordon1 (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.58.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.58.46 Join KBH [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 00.58.51 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.59.06 Nick KBH is now known as HBK (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 00.59.22 # I wish I could build a board with Cortex M3 at 100MHz, 2MB external RAM, SD Card, little color LCD, buttons and audio codec ic... 00.59.41 # at least I can print now my plastic enclosure for it 01.00.54 # what to do with obviously out of date wikipages? or even ones with undesired feature requests? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WpsRequestList or http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FutureWPSFeatures 01.03.05 # Casainho - rockbox certainly doesn't *only* have code for ARM9. e.g. ipod video and older.. 01.03.11 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.03.45 # If you a building an M3 board, why only 2MB ram .. ?? 01.04.00 # stripwax: why not just remove kiss_fft entirely 01.04.03 # we have a better option now 01.04.39 # stripwax: to be cheap 01.05.11 Join KBH [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 01.05.16 # saratoga - true, but it's not exposed to plugins (yet). and we only have ifft not fft. Also the author stated that the actual fft calculation is not the bottleneck of the fft plugin - getting the raw pcm data from the peakbuffer is (allegedly) the bottleneck 01.06.15 # Not that that's any excuse to use 100% CPU when you *do* get the data, of course. 01.06.19 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.06.41 # wouldn't an iFFT work as well here ? 01.06.55 # plus kiss_fftr is a real-valued helper function. we should add one of those too, really. 01.07.15 # saratoga - isn't the split-radix indexing different inverse vs forward? 01.07.26 # oh, but maybe that doesn't matter 01.07.34 # it is, but the normalized power spectrum should be the same IIRC 01.08.33 Quit KBH (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.08.40 # though i'm not sure if plugins are allowed to call code linked in the codecs 01.08.56 # i guess it shoudl work though 01.09.11 # Do you mean codeclib code? 01.09.18 # yep 01.09.35 # it's just a lib, so I guess it ought to work. 01.09.57 # You'll need to be careful the codec lib isn't using anything from the codec API. 01.10.33 # Or rather, the parts of the codec lib you want to use in a plugin. 01.15.03 # I don't think the fft depends on the codeclib at all 01.15.20 # or at least it shouldn't 01.17.59 # agree, it shouldn't, hopefully it doesn't 01.18.18 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 01.19.31 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.23.04 Quit rvvs89 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.24.04 Join rvvs89 [0] (~ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 01.25.41 Quit TheSphinX^ (Quit: XChat) 01.29.53 Quit Rob2222 (*.net *.split) 01.29.53 Quit ecio (*.net *.split) 01.29.53 Quit matsl (*.net *.split) 01.29.53 Quit froggyman (*.net *.split) 01.29.53 Quit amiconn (*.net *.split) 01.29.53 Quit pixelma (*.net *.split) 01.29.54 Quit lyngaas (*.net *.split) 01.29.54 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 01.29.54 Quit flyback (*.net *.split) 01.29.54 Quit crwl (*.net *.split) 01.29.54 Quit krazykit (*.net *.split) 01.29.54 Quit Unhelpful (*.net *.split) 01.29.58 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.29.58 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.30.05 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@gssn-5f7540bd.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.30.20 Join flyback [0] (~teac@c-98-219-129-239.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 01.30.25 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCB883.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.30.26 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@a88-112-134-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 01.30.26 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 01.30.31 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 01.30.57 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 01.34.56 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-222-234.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 01.38.04 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 01.40.08 Join lyngaas [0] (~staale@19.81-167-149.customer.lyse.net) 01.44.59 Quit Casainho (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306]) 01.54.32 Quit matsl (Quit: Leaving) 02.00.15 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 02.00.23 # New commit by 03funman (r24866): sd-as3525v2: unaligned transfers are handled properly (with memcpy) 02.01.00 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 02.01.08 # FlynDice: i found a problem is SD/Clip+ with clocks initialisation 02.01.33 Quit HBK (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.01.43 # in CGU_MEMSTICK and CGU_BASE+0x3c the dividers are not shifted properly (and not checked for overflow) 02.02.44 # And we need to use 400kHz clock for identification phase, but i think none of these clocks can be so low so perhaps we must use MCI_CLKDIV (OF sets CLKENA to 0, modify CLKDIV, and set back CLKENA) 02.03.17 # linux code doesn't modify MCI_CLKDIV because of some problem, they switch the original clock to 400kHz instead 02.03.34 Quit funman (Client Quit) 02.06.08 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.11.57 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@HBK.broker.freenet6.net) 02.16.16 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.23.50 # perfectdrug_, Prune the deadwood 02.23.51 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~jason@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.24.42 # Then merge the good stuff with more appropriate pages. Then make new pages containing the good stuff remaining, if need be, 02.25.25 # Hopefully at the end of pruning and merging there will be little (if anything) left. 02.25.35 # I haven't touched it to not make it prominent again 02.25.53 # For if there is a lot left then the page probably wasn't ready for the bonfire yet, anyhoo. 02.26.35 # If you feel the page is full of depreciated info mark it as such with a header asking the page not be added to. 02.27.05 # I wouldn't fear random people adding to a page just because it shows up under the recently edited list. 02.28.26 # what would you do with this one http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WpsRequestList ? 02.28.50 # most of it is implemented 02.29.04 # It would be nice if we had a subset of Wikipedia's Policies we could slap on pages needing revision. 02.30.18 # I'd personally shit can it. 02.30.21 # I dont know how a wiki is supposed to work anyway, it is just that this page shows under the docs index, is every page added to it? 02.30.44 # Again - would be nice if we had a tag, as in "Nominated for shitcanning " 02.31.26 # someone's personal dream list of Rockbox features doesn't belong in the wiki, IMHO. 02.32.17 # it is just confusing that LinusN replied to it but it is very old so a nice historical reference 02.32.35 # historical reference to /what/? 02.32.49 # Just because it's old doesn't mean it's valuable, IMHO. 02.32.58 # historical references are nice, but they do get in the way. So I agree with soap... 02.33.10 # i think it is funny to imagine features like aligning text was some time missing and requested 02.33.24 # wtf is that wiki page?! 02.33.58 # but it is not important at all and shouldn't be in the docs index, again is every page automatically added to it? 02.34.05 # from 2005 :D 02.34.35 Quit komputes (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.34.46 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 02.35.05 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 02.38.16 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.44.16 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitr88@BSN-182-9-16.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 02.54.35 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.57.36 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~jason@207-237-117-89.c3-0.80w-ubr2.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.58.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.05.19 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.05.27 Quit jae (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.05.45 Join jae [0] (~jae@jaerhard.com) 03.14.51 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87.196.31.72) 03.28.14 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.28.19 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.29.38 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-220-42.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.31.35 Quit perfectdrug_ (Quit: perfectdrug_) 03.31.52 Quit flyback (Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) 03.32.34 Join flyback [0] (~teac@c-98-219-129-239.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 03.33.37 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.171) 03.34.23 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitr88@BSN-182-25-152.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 03.34.44 Quit S_a_i_n_t_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 03.38.06 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 03.40.31 Quit efyx_ (Remote host closed the connection) 03.40.36 # can anybody help me identify the type of an audio stream? 03.44.03 # ah i think its a windows media stream MP3. rockbox cant play it :( 03.45.59 Quit rphillips (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.53.15 Join rphillips [0] (~rphillips@66-90-184-168.dyn.grandenetworks.net) 04.06.13 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.06.27 Join The_Seven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.06.37 Nick The_Seven is now known as TheSeven (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.07.15 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.27.46 # Rob2222: "windows media stream MP3"? 04.28.07 # yeah, it seems so 04.28.14 # header includes mpeg 1 layer 3 04.28.23 # but it sounds jerky when i call it mp3 04.28.36 # i just write a board post requesting help 04.28.43 # i surrender on this :( 04.29.04 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8FC36.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.29.17 # if it's really mp3 audio, in some funny container, you just need to get it out. 04.30.06 # Hello, 04.30.06 # my favorite internet radio just changed from a shoutcast mp3 stream to a mms:// "windows media stream" that includes mp3 as it seems. 04.30.07 # I can save it with mplayer to a file. 04.30.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK Rob2222 04.30.07 # I would like to have that stream to play with rockbox without re-encoding. 04.30.07 # If I name this file .wma I can play it with VLC and Winamp5. 04.30.07 *** Alert Mode level 1 04.30.07 # If I name this file .mp3 I can play it also, but it sounds jerky. 04.30.07 *** Alert Mode level 2 04.30.07 # The file header talks about mpeg 1 layer 3. 04.30.07 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@gssn-5f7558e7.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.30.08 *** Alert Mode level 3 04.30.08 # Unfortunately rockbox isnt able to play it as wma. Only jerky as mp3. 04.30.08 *** Alert Mode level 4 04.30.08 # I already spent hours to get it done. Here I really need help. :( 04.30.09 *** Alert Mode level 5 04.30.09 # Can you maybe check, what filetype it is? 04.30.09 *** Alert Mode level 6 04.30.09 # Can I maybe remove/change some headers to make it rockbox playable? 04.30.10 *** Alert Mode level 7 04.30.10 # Can I extract the MP3 frames to get a real MP3 without reencoding? 04.30.10 *** Alert Mode level 8 04.30.10 # If everything goes wring, i have to reencode it with lame. 04.30.11 *** Alert Mode level 9 04.30.11 # Here is a short sample: http://www.rob2222.de/stream.wma 04.30.14 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 04.30.22 # damn 04.30.25 # sorry 04.30.34 # i wanted to post link 04.30.37 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=24006.0 04.30.50 # Rob2222: i can't really imagine why you shouldn't be able to extract the mp3 frames. 04.31.02 # i dont know what container it is 04.31.10 # so i dont know which tool im searching for 04.31.16 # didnt want to program a onw 04.31.17 # own 04.31.37 # if you want, you can take a look at tis sample file 04.35.34 # Unhelpful: you have any idea what this is? 04.36.57 # mplayer -identify since you know mplayer ;) 04.37.28 # not that good. will try 04.37.45 # mpeg audio, ASF container. 04.38.34 # yes, mplayer just says asf 04.38.56 # mplayer -dumpaudio stream.wma did... something, anyway. 04.39.03 # it is mpeg 1 layer 3, or? 04.40.12 *** Alert Mode OFF 04.40.29 # yay 04.40.32 # thats it! 04.40.36 # wooohooooooooooooo 04.40.44 # Unhelpful: i love you! 04.40.54 # appears to be. ffmpeg -i -acodec copy .mp3 also works 04.40.58 # dont get it wrong :D 04.41.14 # is ffmpeg no re-encoder? 04.41.14 Quit tmzt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.41.18 # i thought 04.41.25 # if you captured it in mplayer with -dumpstream you might be able to save directorly to mp3 with -dumpaudio. 04.41.43 # the "copy" codec doesn't transcode. 04.41.51 # cool 04.43.22 # well, -dumpaudio instead of -dumpstream didnt work directly on the online stream 04.43.37 # correcture it works 04.43.43 # nice 04.44.04 # damn mplayer is a nice tool 04.44.31 # Unhelpful: thank you very much. was very helpful. you need to change your nick :D 04.58.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.01.35 Quit froggyman (Quit: thanks for all the fish) 05.03.40 Quit iq (Remote host closed the connection) 05.14.10 Join tmzt [0] (~tmzt@adsl-99-164-34-42.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) 05.22.21 Quit jd (Quit: Ω) 05.27.20 Join jd [0] (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 05.27.20 Quit jd (Changing host) 05.27.20 Join jd [0] (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 05.31.08 Quit cjcopi (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.31.43 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.44.41 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 05.47.49 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@charon.craig.copi.org) 05.59.27 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.02.25 Quit Casainho (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306]) 06.02.32 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 06.03.05 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 06.24.57 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/WinterChipV ϢINTER ϾHIP 5iVE is OOON!! omg ~4 days left =oo) 06.29.04 Quit ecio (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 06.49.20 Part S_a_i_n_t 06.52.27 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.99.142) 06.52.30 Quit Tomis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.52.30 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.99.142) 06.58.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.03.48 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.99.142) 07.03.52 Quit Tomis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.03.52 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.99.142) 07.14.20 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.36.52 Quit HBK () 07.46.57 Join saullawl [0] (~saullawl@crlspr-69.65.67.208.myacc.net) 07.50.25 Quit kramer3d (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.51.55 Quit saullawl (Quit: Goodbye All!) 07.55.56 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 07.59.56 # New commit by 03funman (r24867): Clipv2/Clip+: no need for -mlong-calls 08.00.01 # New commit by 03funman (r24868): as3525v2: share more of system_init() between the 2 SoCs ... 08.05.53 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.171) 08.08.36 # New commit by 03funman (r24869): sd-as3525v2: correct CGU_MEMSTICK setting, shift divider ... 08.13.03 # Is there a way I can manually set a new keymap for Rockboy *without* using the (buggy as hell...for iPod at least) "Set Keys" function in the Rockboy menu? 08.13.20 # "Set Keys" doesn;t seem to register taps on the clickwheel... 08.15.35 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.19.59 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 08.19.59 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 08.19.59 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.20.46 # gevaerts: Did you experiment with -fPIE and -Wl,pie ? 08.23.00 # It also seems that you need to use -fpic (and perhaps -fpie) for coldfire (i.e. not their capitcal-letter equivalents) 08.25.29 Quit old-landen (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]) 08.27.14 Join Sunfire [0] (~test@74.119.169.249) 08.29.12 # gevaerts: -Wl,-pie of course 08.29.18 Quit Sunfire (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.29.53 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.29.53 # * amiconn just found an interesting assembler option for sh... 08.34.08 # Hmm, seems it's redundant 08.34.30 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: PC - Restart etc. "Back in 5") 08.39.34 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 08.39.54 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA401.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.40.38 Join Grahack [0] (~Grahack@ip-252.net-81-220-6.versailles.rev.numericable.fr) 08.43.49 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.50.35 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.58.17 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 08.58.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.05.16 Quit elinenbe (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.05.37 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@207-237-241-192.c3-0.nyw-ubr1.nyr-nyw.ny.cable.rcn.com) 09.09.12 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.13.30 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host118-166-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.44.44 Join hittudiv_ [0] (~hittudiv@210.212.160.101) 09.47.05 Quit hittudiv_ (Client Quit) 09.47.57 Join hittudiv [0] (~hittudiv@210.212.160.101) 10.05.41 Part hittudiv ("Leaving") 10.06.18 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 10.06.36 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 10.07.25 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 10.10.38 Join kramer3d_ [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 10.13.30 Quit kramer3d (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.15.22 # amiconn: yes, if I do that I need to declare a lot more sections (6 or 7 IIRC) that I have to figure out the meaning of first 10.15.56 # at least on m68k 10.34.42 # can %mv (volume increasing/decreasing) be used conditionally in a WPS? 10.36.19 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 10.36.24 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10.36.29 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.37.46 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 10.43.38 Quit kramer3d_ (Quit: Leaving) 10.50.44 Join HellDragon_ [0] (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 10.50.45 Quit HellDragon_ (Changing host) 10.50.45 Join HellDragon_ [0] (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 10.51.57 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 10.53.19 Quit jd (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.58.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.59.24 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8FC36.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.01.20 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.08.29 Join efyx_ [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 11.10.02 Join shaggy-h [0] (~kiwi@78-86-164-31.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 11.26.37 Quit ranmachan (Remote host closed the connection) 11.30.03 Join cfp [0] (~cfp@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 11.30.15 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.30.31 # Hello everyone! 11.32.26 # I'm developing a plugin, and I'd like to fire an event periodically (say, every 10 minutes for example). In the meantime, I just need my plugin to wait. Is there a way to do this? I've found the timer_register function, but I don't quite understand how it works. Plus, I don't really know what to put in my main loop so as not to eat up all system ressources... 11.35.57 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~cold@p54A5D4D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.38.02 Join ranmachan [0] (ranma@mx.tdiedrich.de) 11.40.26 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-255-118.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 11.43.24 Quit ecio (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 11.52.04 Join rocker123 [0] (~c3de4bc5@gateway/web/freenode/x-mxsscnotwhsgfolf) 11.56.22 Quit rocker123 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.56.52 # cfp: I don't know anything about timer_register but if you grep "timer_register" in the plugins, you'll see that several of them use it, so can probably inspire from them. There are: 11.57.25 # alpine_cdc.c, video.c, test_scanrate.c, doom/i_system.c, metronome.c 11.57.31 # Perhaps look at metronome 11.57.44 # cfp: what you probably want to do is to not use that at all 11.57.52 # cfp: presumably there is a button or similar to exit your plugin 11.57.58 # so just wait for a button action, with a timeout 11.58.12 # when that returns, check if it's time for the periodic event yet 11.58.17 # and if not just adjust the timeout and wait again 11.59.01 # timer_register is to have callbacks that operate asynchronously from your plugin's main thread of execution, you probably don't need it 12.02.56 # @Torne good idea indeed 12.03.14 # but how do I set a timeout? 12.03.47 Join darkham [0] (~darkham@host46-29-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.05.25 # button_get_w_tmo 12.05.27 # or similar :) 12.05.28 # for now, I'm simply using rb->get_button() 12.05.32 # Oh? 12.05.35 # Cool 12.05.50 # work out when the next event should happen 12.06.00 # then each time around, subtract the current time from that and use it as the timeout 12.06.22 # got it :) Thanks. 12.06.24 # if the user presses a button you don't use, or similar, you might get it returning even though neither an interesting button nor the timeout have occurred 12.06.34 # so you may have to do it multiple times with varying timeouts :) 12.06.41 # And if you want to be nice, you should also check for USB being inserted. 12.06.48 # yup 12.06.53 # I've got another question though 12.07.28 # IIn fact, my plugin checks for the time, and if it's later than a specific time, resumes playback. 12.07.38 # How can I do that (resume playback)? 12.08.19 # There's a playback menu in the plugin lib (apps/plugins/lib/) - that may help 12.08.50 # I suspect audio_resume() 12.08.53 # I know of this menu indeed. Shall check the code then, thanks :) 12.08.57 # cool 12.09.19 # well I guess I've got everything I need 12.09.28 # Thansk again everyone 12.09.43 # This project is just great =) 12.11.03 Quit darkham (Quit: Sto andando via) 12.14.27 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.14.56 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.18.27 Quit Llorean (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.19.24 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 12.20.24 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@adsl-99-158-46-229.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 12.20.25 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 12.20.25 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 12.39.36 Quit cfp (Quit: Quitte) 12.49.44 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EFAF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.51.25 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.56.37 Join p00ya [0] (~p00ya@203-206-91-18.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.57.41 # hi, i've just installed rockbox onto an ipod 3g, it no longer appears as a volume or in /dev/ (os x 10.5) 12.58.15 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 12.58.45 # how do i transfer to it? do i have to reboot in the default firmware? 12.58.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.59.22 # Yes. Although Rockbox should reboot into disk mode automatically for you. Are you using Rockbox 3.5 or a current build? 12.59.30 # 3.5 13.00.10 # when i plug it in it turns on automatically but just in the default rockbox menu 13.01.09 # What if you turn it on, and then plug it in? Also, are you using a USB or firewire cable? 13.03.21 # p00ya: Hmm, looking at the code in Rockbox, it seems that USB detection has not been implemented. So you'll need to always reboot manually. If you turn the hold swich on before inserting USB (when your ipod is off), then it will start the Apple firmware for you. 13.03.49 # Firewire detection seems to be implemented though, if you can use a firewire cable. 13.04.13 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133108225.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 13.05.19 # Firewire is also much faster than USB on ipod G3. The usb i/f is only usb 1.1 13.12.40 # thanks, all working in apple firmware 13.14.02 # yeah if i had an ieee1394 cable i'd use it ;) 13.14.53 Join perfectdrug_ [0] (~marko@p5B0ED493.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.18.30 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.18.32 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: There are 10 types of people, those who understand binary, and those who don't.) 13.27.28 Join part [0] (~part@atari.org) 13.37.27 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 13.41.03 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.43.45 Quit shaggy-h (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.51.57 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.55.31 Part p00ya 13.55.38 Join TopyMobile [0] (~topy@g228208155.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.56.19 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 13.59.31 # linuxstb: hm, do we just not know which gpio it is? 14.05.35 # Torne: I've no idea about the 3G. amiconn may do. 14.07.16 # Torne: According to this page, a GPIO pin indicates "USB power", which I think is all we have on later ipods - http://ipodlinux.org/wiki/GPIO But on later ipods, we do (or should) try and distinguish between usb power and a proper connection. 14.09.07 # hm 14.15.50 Join ecio1 [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 14.17.52 Quit ecio (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.21.43 # linuxstb: I think when swusb came the distinguishing got lost for a while. 14.21.46 # I'm not sure if it's back yet. 14.21.54 # * Llorean hasn't updated in some time. 14.25.51 # It's distinguished on the later ipods for sure, yes 14.25.58 # there is a seperation between usb attached and usb inserted 14.26.31 # I just remember that for a while my nano was requiring me to hold Menu when inserting a charger again. 14.26.35 # But that was some time back now 14.28.54 # hm 14.29.00 # it should work, anyway :) 14.29.21 # Well, it might. :) 14.29.45 # that's what should means, no? :) 14.29.52 # "it might, but we mean for it to" :) 14.31.37 # "should" never associates with whether it is or isn't in my head, I guess. 14.31.47 Quit Rob2223 (Quit: Rob2223) 14.31.56 # "It doesn't work, but it should" and "Well it should work, and yes, I guess it does" both are valid statements. :-P 14.32.27 # Someone should possibly create a matrix on the wiki with the various stuff you can insert and a note whether or not Rockbox DTRT 14.32.50 # Like the accessories page? 14.33.26 # Except just for chargers/data connections 14.33.28 # too complicated 14.33.42 # i still need to do that usb power rework ;) 14.33.57 # (too complicated == accessories page) 14.34.34 # it would be quite good to know which targets support some kind of power control, also 14.34.42 # though that would be a matter of asking devs rather than users 14.35.21 # There seems to be no one with clear knowledge of which devices do what 14.35.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA401.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.35.35 # well no, but lots of people know whether *one* device does something 14.35.35 Join froggymana [0] (~187b533e@giant.haxx.se) 14.35.52 # i know what the PP ipods do, TheSeven knows what nano2g does, etc :) 14.35.52 # Exactly my point 14.36.26 # Yah.. 14.36.28 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 14.37.04 # * Torne pulls up his usb power branch and tries to remember what he was doing 14.37.07 # What we need is a mailing list with devs on it where you can ask that sort of thing 14.37.10 # gevaerts: hehe 14.37.10 # Oh, wait... 14.37.27 # lots of the people who actually know useful stuff for specific targets are not around any more though it seems ;) 14.39.06 # hey, big news! 14.39.34 # we have a working exploit for *all* the ipod classics and the nano3g/4g! 14.39.51 # \o/ 14.39.55 # i'm porting ibugger right now 14.40.10 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-174-097-248-232.nc.res.rr.com) 14.40.12 # \☺/ 14.40.16 Join cpichGGG [0] (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 14.40.35 # * GodEater still thinks gevaerts' one of those looks like a sad face at this font size 14.41.28 # TheSeven: awesome 14.42.23 Nick cpichGGG is now known as ecio (~ecio@244-108.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 14.42.32 Quit ecio1 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.44.53 # TheSeven: yay! :) 14.44.57 # TheSeven: Ah nice. I should be able to help with the 2g classic. 14.45.01 # how was that found? 14.45.15 # * linuxstb offers TheSeven a beer 14.46.24 # D:\Daten\Projekte\iPod\tools>ibugger dumpstate 14.46.25 # Connected to iBugger Loader v0.1.1 on iPod Nano 3G, USB version 00.01 14.46.27 # Getting target state... 14.46.28 # Error: Device doesn't support this function! 14.46.45 # woah, working almost out of the box! (it's normal for a loader to not support that function 14.47.38 # * GodEater looks forward to irritating Mrs GodEater even further by installing Rockbox on every single device she owns 14.48.20 # linuxstb: do you have your classic around again? 14.48.43 # TheSeven: I'll have it from this weekend. 14.51.18 # * TheSeven just dumped the nano3g bootrom 14.53.46 # TheSeven: So is this exploit just uploading something to the ipod whilst its in DFU mode? i.e. it doesn't (directly) enable any kind of permanent installation of code? 14.54.50 # linuxstb: the "permanent" firmware image is probably verified by the same code, with the same bug :-) 14.55.14 # we won't be able to sign a valid firmware like we did for the 2g, but we can probably make it automatically exploit itself on boot 14.55.47 # i'll write a loader app to do that, which will then run a normal bootloader in a sane way, the bootloader itself won't need to deal with this 14.58.54 Quit ecio (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.59.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.01.08 # TheSeven: So is your USB code the same as the nano2g, or have you already changed things for the Classic/later ipods? 15.01.31 # it's a hybrid between nano2g and nano4g code that appears to work on the nano/classic 15.01.55 # and of course some drivers stripped at the moment 15.02.30 # At least on the Classics, disk access will (hopefully) just be standard ATA, so none of that FTL nonsense to worry about. 15.07.11 Join webgues123 [0] (~c3de4bc5@giant.haxx.se) 15.07.28 # linuxstb: Afaik the G3 can't be powered from USB, hence there is no gpio pin to detect that 15.07.37 # We'd need an usb stack... 15.07.48 # amiconn: So the IPL wiki is wrong? 15.09.00 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.11.59 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE21851.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.12.12 Quit webgues123 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 15.13.24 # Not sure. The pin might actually indicate usb power, but the ipod G3 cannot be powered/charged from usb 15.13.51 # We should still distinguish between an usb charger (even if it cannot charge) and a real usb port 15.14.11 # Unfortunately there is no active dev who has an ipod G3, afaik 15.16.11 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/WinterChipV ϢINTER ϾHIP 5iVE is OOON!! omg ~4 days left =oo) 15.16.19 Join shaggy-h [0] (~kiwi@78-86-164-31.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 15.24.19 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@adsl-065-081-069-051.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 15.27.36 Quit shai (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.28.06 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 15.30.25 # TheSeven: Great news, congrats :) 15.32.13 Quit TheSphinX^ (Quit: XChat) 15.33.58 # TheSeven: would some more hardware help you? the rockbox fund is eagerly standing by! 15.34.44 # Zagor: probably not much. time would be better :-) 15.35.05 # there's still enogh work ahead on the nanos to keep me busy for a year 15.35.21 # a slave or two, then? 15.35.39 # invest in cloning research 15.35.40 # well, they would need to be pretty knowledgeable slaves :-) 15.35.50 # yes, clones would be an idea 15.35.56 # mature-ish clones 15.35.57 # a development grant is what you need 15.36.02 # Just order them to be knowledgeable 15.36.06 # slaves have to obey 15.36.20 # obey or revolt 15.36.37 # The Rockbox fund can supply whips :) 15.37.51 # my sansa e200 hold key broke today, and I was wondering if a software keylock has been implemented on any other targets 15.38.03 # part: Yes 15.38.11 # oh, cool, which target? 15.39.10 # All the Archoses I think 15.40.10 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.40.49 # linuxstb: thanks, I'll take a look 15.41.27 Join AsaelReiter [0] (~d44c72e0@giant.haxx.se) 15.42.10 # TheSeven: cloning is easy no ? TheSeven->clone(); 15.42.11 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 15.42.18 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.42.29 # part: It seems to be enabled if you undefine HAS_BUTTON_HOLD - see apps/action.c 15.42.44 # And you need to search for "lock", not "hold" 15.43.53 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@vpn224-131.fh-bielefeld.de) 15.43.56 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 15.43.56 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 15.44.50 # * gevaerts helps froggymana search for the subject on the floor 15.44.53 # oops 15.53.01 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@e179237187.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.54.49 Quit froggymana (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.56.30 # TheSeven: on which nanos are you working ? 15.57.05 # mainly 2g and 4g, right now i'm trying to make ibugger work on the 3g to be able to pass that one to others 15.57.25 # what is ibugger ? 15.57.49 # my usb-based debugger for the nanos 15.58.33 # ah, so you are able to run code on the 2g and 4g already ? (I know nothing about the current nano status :)) 15.59.31 # http://l4n.clustur.com/index.php/Status 16.00.37 Quit ecio (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.02.14 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@32.131.4.136) 16.03.22 # I can't load rockbox on clipv2. Is that expected? 16.04.12 # TheSeven: is there any documentation or are you mostly doing reverse engineering ? 16.05.52 # pamaury: 90% reverse engineering 16.05.53 # AsaelReiter: I think so, yes. 16.06.17 # some inaccurate preliminary datasheet for a similar chip exists, but... you know 16.06.19 # AsaelReiter: clipv2 is not usable yet 16.06.26 # AsaelReiter: yes but getting closer! 16.06.50 # thanks all 16.07.04 # TheSeven: I guess it's hard work then 16.07.24 # (I saw that funman did a lot of work, and I hoped...) 16.07.25 # yep 16.09.38 # Are you the only one working on that ? 16.09.48 Quit AsaelReiter (Quit: CGI:IRC) 16.10.55 # it seems like i'm the only one who is actually writing code and reading disassemblies 16.11.08 # there are some others who are helping with the testing at least 16.12.31 # I seem to remember preglow asking about the 3rd gen Nano (though I could remember wrong) 16.14.48 # TheSeven: is it possible to help things ? 16.16.06 # pamaury: Do you own any of the newer ipods? (3g/4g nano or any of the Classics) 16.17.01 # No, so I guess it's hard to do something ;) 16.17.19 # Step 1 would be to go out and buy a new toy... 16.17.21 # yep 16.18.33 # Zagor: svn www/playerpics seems rather outdated 16.19.04 # really? how? 16.19.20 # Hm, hang on a moment 16.19.48 # Ah no, nevermind me 16.20.38 # Is there still a problem with the e200r on the site - i.e. it shouldn't have its own main build or voice files. 16.21.41 # was that a question or a statement? :) 16.24.17 # * linuxstb adds a "?" 16.24.48 # I don't think this page should show the e200r - http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi 16.25.26 # And the v3.5 e200r-specific voice file should be removed from the download server. 16.35.43 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.35.50 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 16.37.10 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.44.55 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 16.46.35 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.51.59 Join ecio1 [0] (~ecio@adsl-065-081-069-051.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 16.52.41 Quit ecio (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 16.56.52 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 16.57.03 Part LinusN ("Leaving") 16.58.42 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 16.58.47 Join Soap_ [0] (~42c07542@giant.haxx.se) 16.59.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.02.30 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 17.04.20 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.50) 17.04.50 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 17.17.14 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 17.19.47 Join ved [0] (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 17.22.20 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 17.23.07 # do we implement the full ipod accessory protocol as listed here? http://www.adriangame.co.uk/ipod-acc-pro.html 17.24.02 # TheSeven: which skills are required to work on theses devices ? 17.25.35 # Perhaps some points of the protocol are not necessary to implement. I see things about images which are not crucial is this protocol 17.25.41 # it's mostly a matter of reading disassemblies and then writing some demo/testing code to understand the hardware interfaces 17.28.13 # and when you have worked it out, implementing a rockbox driver for whatever you were working on, or building a standalone tool for accessing it (depending on what it is) 17.28.41 # does it require to open it or not ? (depends on the device version ?) 17.30.14 # we have reached a stage where opening it shouldn't be neccessary for most things 17.30.33 # pamaury: I'm sure people would like these image things to work though 17.31.20 # rasher: true but it's not the most important thing to work one. Music is more important than pictures for a DAP first :) 17.32.55 # apple discontinued the nano3g/4g, isn't it ? 17.33.33 # yes 17.34.24 Quit Schmogel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.35.33 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE21851.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.36.07 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 17.38.27 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 17.40.18 Quit rphillips (Quit: leaving) 17.41.44 Quit Sajber^ (Quit: Leaving.) 17.42.26 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@94-30.anonymous.at.anonine.com) 17.42.40 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 17.43.23 # hum, I'm tempted but I don't know if I have the necessary skills to work on it. 17.43.54 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (~johannes@dslb-188-101-015-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.48.25 Join rphillips [0] (~rphillips@unaffiliated/rphillips) 17.48.58 Join thevillain [0] (~50e5deca@giant.haxx.se) 17.49.05 # hello 17.49.22 # hello 17.51.39 # thevillain: if you have a question, just ask! 17.51.54 Quit Ubuntuxer (Quit: Leaving.) 17.52.24 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.91.106) 17.53.40 Quit thevillain (Client Quit) 17.53.54 Join dantje [0] (~dvg@HSI-KBW-095-208-155-207.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 17.54.19 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.54.19 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.91.106) 17.54.59 Quit Soap_ (Changing host) 17.55.00 Join Soap_ [0] (~42c07542@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.57.47 Join mitk [0] (~tomekk@chello089078013146.chello.pl) 17.59.19 Quit Soap_ (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.00.57 # Hi. I want to add polish letters to Nimbus-12 font. Is it allowed? Are there any legal issues with it? 18.02.59 # mitk: none at all - knock yourself out! 18.03.10 # mitk: And please post the updated file on the patch tracker 18.03.39 # Ok. Thanks 18.04.04 # * iq wonders after reading the 'Rockbox Architecture' page that why bootloader is not treated as a part of firmware. 18.04.56 # iq: The bootloader is about 95% code from firmware, plus 5% the code in bootloader/. What do you mean by "treated as a part of firmware" ? 18.05.04 Quit Guest34960 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.05.04 Quit Frampis (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.06.07 # the bootloader is an app that sits on top of th efirmware, the same as "app" is an app that sits on top of firmware 18.06.15 # it just happens that bootloader's main() does something different 18.08.32 # I am new to this so please forgive my ignorance :-) 18.09.22 # So the bootloader here is the output of mkamsboot, which is Original Bootloader + RockBox Bootloader + Original Firmware ? 18.10.43 # rasher: One more question. Updated file or diff? 18.11.04 # RockBox bootloader decides which firmware to load, either Original firmware or the RockBox firmware. 18.11.37 # RockBox firmware has many threads and one of the thread is RockBox application? 18.12.27 # linuxstb, I didn't find the word 'bootloader' on the Architectuer page 18.12.44 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 18.12.57 # mitk: diff is slightly preferable, but it's not so important with fonts 18.13.26 Join Bluebrother-mobi [0] (~50eff221@gateway/web/freenode/x-ijeydsvizlwmcwjv) 18.13.51 # iq: In general, "bootloader" is what gets compiled when you select "B" in tools/configure - i.e. the code for your target in bootloader/ 18.14.46 # iq: mkamsboot is very specific to the AMS Sansa devices, and contains a very simple "pre-bootloader", which then either boots the Rockbox bootloader, or runs the original firmware. 18.14.56 # i think he's asking about the different parts involved in the mechanism to run rockbox, linuxstb 18.15.02 Join qwebirc452344 [0] (~50eff221@gateway/web/freenode/x-izdcjitlqafoqlem) 18.15.08 # linuxstb, ya, that I understood. I did that for my Clip+ and it worked just fine. 18.15.31 # topik, yes, that's correct :) 18.16.05 Join Blueguest [0] (~50eff221@giant.haxx.se) 18.18.14 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.18.40 Quit Blueguest (Client Quit) 18.18.51 # the distinction between rockbox and its bootloader is not as big as you make it out 18.19.13 # as i believe it, the bootloader is just enough code to start rockbox 18.19.37 # rockbox is not one of many threads, it is the complete firmware replacement 18.19.45 Join Strife89|PalmTX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-068-213-037-174.sip.mcn.bellsouth.net) 18.20.01 Join Biont [0] (~5ede4864@giant.haxx.se) 18.20.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ProjectGlossary#Bootloader 18.20.56 Quit rphillips (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 18.21.44 # thanks topik - BTW, I was on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxArchitecture 18.21.58 # that page is somewhat dated though i suppose, but gives a good start on some of the project specific words 18.22.06 Quit Bluebrother-mobi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.22.47 Join rphillips [0] (~rphillips@hera.xen.prgmr.com) 18.23.16 # Okay. So maybe I should move on :) Because, according to this page RockBox is split into two main sections, Firmware and Application. 18.23.47 # No, this is correct 18.23.56 Quit qwebirc452344 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.23.58 Join bluebro [0] (~bluebro@188.46.16.232) 18.24.05 # And under Multithreading section, it says "the application itself being contained in a single thread also known as the Main thread." 18.24.12 # the firmware (core) is device speficic and contains things like drivers for the hardware 18.24.47 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 18.24.53 # application contains a lot of things like user interface, codecs, applications etc 18.24.53 # So, that's what made me think that the RockBox App runs as one of the thread of Firmware/OS 18.25.07 Quit rphillips (Changing host) 18.25.07 Join rphillips [0] (~rphillips@unaffiliated/rphillips) 18.25.35 # I have an idea for the base skin and main menu. extending the %cs functionality and getting rid the main menu displaying the top row (Rockbox/Settings/Playlist/...). Would that be feasible? That would open up possibilities for themers and could even save screen space (by using multifont or images) 18.25.59 # it _is_ the firmware/os and starts threads for tasks like playing music etc 18.26.11 # topik, okay - got it :) 18.26.52 # does that sound good? should I open a forum discussion about that? 18.27.19 # So now I know why bootloader is not part of the OS because it is more like GRUB that loads the OS. 18.27.31 # iq: most of the threads belong to the firmware because they handle hardware specific things 18.27.44 # iq: and ther eis one main thread which runs the applicatoin, but the application also creates a few other threads. 18.28.30 # our bootloader is more like, er, linuxbios than grub 18.28.56 # Torne, that makes sense 18.28.57 # it's a "real" copy of the OS, with the same drivers/etc as the main app 18.29.10 # well, some of the same drivers 18.29.11 # surely only the drivers for stuff that matter early on 18.29.13 # it doesn't include them all 18.29.19 # but the ones that are included are the same 18.29.58 # whereas grub has no code in common with linux :) 18.30.17 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 18.30.48 # Torne, That's a major difference - very helpful -thanks :) 18.31.00 # iq, this page even has a pretty diagram! http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxKernel 18.31.38 # cool :) 18.34.07 Join sudoman [0] (~c05041eb@gateway/web/freenode/x-auhsdevtmatrdxfd) 18.39.58 Quit linuxguy3 (Quit: leaving) 18.40.19 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@adsl-75-57-163-40.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 18.42.05 Quit Strife89|PalmTX (Quit: Leaving the resteraunt.) 18.44.17 # Biont: You can already turn the top line off no? 18.44.45 # settings/general/file view/show path 18.44.59 # oh, sorry, you mean in the menus 18.45.01 # ignore me :) 18.50.39 Quit bluebro (Quit: used jmIrc) 18.52.42 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.53.29 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 18.55.10 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 18.58.52 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.32) 18.59.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.00.55 Part rphillips 19.02.31 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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All that'd be left are some improvements of the %cs-tag . cool 20.03.26 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 20.03.33 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-81-175.nyc.res.rr.com) 20.07.52 # Biont: I don't think you can, I misread what you said 20.08.24 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.08.56 # * JdGordon_ spots talk of %cs and wonders if he should read the log? 20.10.06 Join kimi-sharamin [0] (~karashata@69.41.192.215) 20.12.45 Join punkt [0] (~punkt@dslb-092-077-140-194.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.13.23 Quit karashata (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.19.04 Quit punkt (Quit: Leaving) 20.19.07 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.22.55 # AlexP: so do you think it's a good idea? I think it would allow for lots of new theme layouts 20.23.38 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 20.23.38 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.23.38 # Biont: I'm not too bothered really :) 20.23.39 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 20.23.40 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.23.55 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.24.04 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.26.16 # AlexP: No problem :) I can still start a forum discussion 20.27.12 # how annoyed would everyone be if I turned the standard list into a skinable list? so you could position the items and icons and title anywhere you wanted, and different colours/fonts? :) 20.28.38 # JdGordon_: I thought it would be great if there could be an option to turn off the top row of the main menu in favour of an improved %cs tag 20.29.30 # how are the two related at all? 20.30.09 Join gevearts [0] (~5ec167ef@giant.haxx.se) 20.30.30 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 20.30.46 # The top row displays rockbox/settings/theme settings and so on, which would also be possible with %cs. But that top row is not accessible for themers, while the %cs tag is 20.31.16 # maybe I'm wrong, but that's about what %cs is for, it just doesn't "support" too many screens atm 20.31.27 # yeah, pretty much 20.31.40 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.31.44 # I thing I asked in one forum thread (or irc maybe) how much flexibility we want that tag to have 20.31.55 Quit gevearts (Client Quit) 20.32.15 # I love the idea of displaying images or some sort of "adress bar" instead of a fixed part of the main menu 20.32.55 # Dunno if it's feasible, though. I'm just a theme designer :D 20.36.13 # I'm tempted to make the title text avialable to skins and fix it so the title can be removed in the menus so you could almost do whatever you wanted 20.37.42 # I'm not sure how to do that though 20.41.46 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 20.41.52 # any forum admins online? scorche`? 20.44.05 # checkwps is bloody usueless! 20.44.16 Quit sudoman (Quit: Page closed) 20.44.43 # You broke it again? ;) 20.46.21 # no, it builds, its just useless 20.46.38 # it doesnt dump the debug info when a parse fails?! 20.48.10 Quit advcomp2019 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.53.42 # a #define isnt set correctly apparently 20.55.14 # #if defined(DEBUG) || defined(SIMULATOR) fails for checkwps! 20.55.21 # except -DDEBUG is in checkwps.make 20.56.07 # anyone who knows make files got a minute to check that? 20.56.30 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-255-118.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 20.58.37 Part watto 20.58.46 # JdGordon_: Which file is that line in? 20.58.49 # check what precisely? 20.59.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.59.10 # skin_engine/skin_parser.c 20.59.48 # DEBUG should be defined in the makefile so the debug stuff gets built, which it apparently is 21.00.02 # how do I get it to display the cc command for each.c file? 21.00.35 # it's not defined properly 21.00.37 # make V=1 21.01.52 Quit cjcopi (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.02.25 # -DDEBUG isnt there untill the LD step 21.02.56 # http://pastebin.com/6X8LZBeS 21.03.24 # How about http://pastie.org/839201.txt ? 21.04.15 # it hit my #error :) 21.04.45 # thanks 21.04.48 # that worked 21.05.10 # Either that or add __PCTOOL__ to the list in the source 21.05.11 # can you ci it please :) I'm supposed to be working 21.05.56 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r24870): Add -DDEBUG to the checkwps build. The tool is supposed to give debug info 21.06.10 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.06.14 # thanks 21.06.49 # ERR: Failed parsing on line 0 : ERR: Conditional syntax error after token 0: "No token" 21.06.52 # hardly helpful :p 21.08.35 Join Stephen__ [0] (~S@86-45-68-64-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 21.08.45 Join AsusFreak [0] (~55b04ace@giant.haxx.se) 21.09.21 # Hi 21.10.52 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@e179237187.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.11.53 Quit AsusFreak (Client Quit) 21.11.55 Join AsusFreak [0] (~55b04ace@giant.haxx.se) 21.12.14 Join punkt [0] (~punkt@dslb-092-077-140-194.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.17.44 Quit AsusFreak (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.22.33 Join TheSeven [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 21.22.49 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-222-234.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 21.24.00 Join AsusFreak [0] (~55b04ace@gateway/web/freenode/x-bnuifnecjkgtdvra) 21.25.52 # kugel broke checkwps with r24814 :< 21.26.08 # it now fails to parse if images arnt loaded, which is always in checkwps 21.26.52 # Didn't checkwps load images in the past? 21.27.04 # I dont think so 21.27.13 # I'm sure it did. 21.28.04 # well, it tries to, but it looks like the themesite isnt putting the images int he right folders 21.28.22 # Well, the theme site is something else... 21.28.32 # rasher: which file is the checkwps check called in>?/ 21.29.16 # JdGordon_: Should I consider starting a forum discussion about the %cs/main menu thing? 21.29.32 # you can consider it 21.30.00 # I'll consider it. See you, then, I'm off ;) 21.30.27 Quit Biont (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.32.23 # domonoky: rasher: ping? 21.32.57 # pong ? 21.33.30 # am I reading this correctly? each theme is unzipped and then checkwps is run from that themes folder alongside its .rockbox dir? 21.35.16 # and if so, would it be better to cd into .rockbox/wps before running checkwps, or pass in the wps folder as a checkwps argument? 21.36.35 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-220-42.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.37.34 # JdGordon_: yes, each theme is unzipped to a temp folder, cd into tempfolder, and execute: "/ 21.37.47 # thats causing issues now 21.38.03 # checkwps currently expects the wps images to be in the cwd 21.38.20 # so one of my above suggestions need to happen 21.38.29 # JdGordon_: I'd say fix checkwps 21.38.50 # to expect cwd to be the root folder 21.39.06 # well no, thats annoying for regular users 21.39.23 # And what happens when checkwps starts checking other files? 21.39.33 # you mean those regular users who haven't ever noticed that checkwps was broken? 21.39.53 # ok, fair enough 21.40.10 # cant it get the images from the dir relativ to the file we point it to ? ie search images at /../wps/ ? 21.40.18 # Those have a .rockbox directory anyway as well, otherwise you can't test for real 21.40.52 Join AsaelReiter [0] (~d59730fa@giant.haxx.se) 21.41.14 # ./checkwps.target myfile.sbs is easiesr than ./checkwps.target .rockbox/wps/myfile.sbs 21.41.25 # maybe the first can be made to work thgouh 21.42.32 # JdGordon_: both versions could work, if the images are searched relative to the sbs/wps file. 21.45.37 # :( I dont know if my very simple change to checkwps.make fixed this or not 21.47.11 # removeing -DWPS_DIR=\".\" from the FLAGS line in checkwps.make 21.47.47 # Do you run rockboxdev.sh just once when build a new machine? 21.47.58 # JdGordon_: Hi, can I bug you to commit either patch in FS#10982 (%Tk or armed-touchregions)? 21.47.59 # usually twice 21.48.15 # * JdGordon_ always forgets to manually fix the make line the first time 21.48.28 Quit AsaelReiter (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.48.30 # punkt: which would you prefer? 21.48.41 # JdGordon, are you serious :) ? 21.48.54 # I prefer the armed touchregions. 21.49.27 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Zarggg) 21.50.14 # patch looks fine, but I'm at work soo cant really do anything about it now :p 21.50.47 # JdGordon_: Ok, thanks. 21.53.31 # * iq thinks he asked a really silly question 21.53.47 Join foaly [0] (~root@failbox.co.cc) 21.54.51 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 21.56.34 # Hey, has the process for installing a voice file changed? I've tried both generating one and downloading one from the site and putting it in my .rockbox/langs directory (english.voice for the gigabeatf) and am not getting any speech. Did I break something? 21.56.55 # is the voice menus setting enabled? 21.57.06 # This is a fresh install, btw. I compiled it from the latest svn source. 21.58.11 # I think so. Just to make sure I added "talk menu: on" to the config.cfg file and rebooted, but it didn't fix it 21.59.58 # I can play files just fine, not sure if it helps any. 22.01.31 # No idea what could be causing it, both the english.lng and english.voice are in the .rockbox/langs directory and by default the voice menus option should be enabled I think? 22.02.57 # yes 22.03.35 # probably a silly question, but the language is set to english, right? 22.04.05 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 22.04.16 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 22.04.32 # another silly one: and it is a voice file for the Gigabeat F? 22.05.34 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 22.06.52 # Yes to both of those. I even removed the .rockbox directory and tried again, to ge trid of any old stuff that might be messing it up. Didn't work 22.07.06 # ur, s/ge/get 22.11.09 # Does it matter that root owns the .voice file? 22.11.10 Quit Grahack (Quit: Tu m'as vu ?) 22.11.55 # it's FAT, so that's meaningless 22.12.41 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.12.50 # * gevaerts tries to reproduce 22.12.58 Join Armandiux [0] (~Armandiux@201.166.24.94.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) 22.13.04 Quit punkt (Quit: punkt) 22.19.08 # FFT is very good, good job. 22.20.05 # foaly: voice does indeed seem to be broken. I have voice with 3.5 and not with the current build 22.20.26 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@gate-22.spsu.edu) 22.21.01 # well thats only 300 or so commits to figure out which broke it 22.21.10 # * domonoky has voice with current build on h120.. 22.21.48 # gevaerts: on which target did you try ? 22.21.53 # gigabeat f 22.21.54 # gevaerts: voice didn't work at all? 22.22.06 # i had voice on nano2g only some days ago, and it seemed to work 22.22.10 # I heard nothing at least 22.22.31 # * gevaerts decides to start by blaming r24712 22.22.34 # there is also a forum post about no voice on gigabeat S 22.23.01 # ah, any revision there? 22.23.26 # * foaly peers at svn changelogs to see if he can find anything. 22.23.43 # I don't remember any voice changes 22.23.46 # he mentions its broken somewhere before r24843, 22.23.58 # "a couples of days ago" 22.24.21 # I think the most likely culprit is the mdct merge. That at least touches codecs 22.26.14 # so "someone" who expiriences the problem, should do some bisecting to find the exact revision where it broke :-) 22.26.52 # Should I try compiling r24712? 22.27.07 # I'm bisecting now 22.28.05 # can the FFT plugin have a preset suport for make more visualizations, maybe a gui (or command line) for make a script, etc?? 22.28.11 # which codecs though? 22.28.20 # 24711 still works 22.28.41 Quit dantje (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.28.45 # hmm. 22.29.59 # Should I go back to r24711 for now? 22.30.17 # 24750 also works 22.30.20 # New commit by 03tomers (r24871): Quickscreen: Hande case where not all quick settings are defines ... 22.30.26 Quit parafin (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.30.59 # foaly: or help us to find out which revision broke it :-) 22.31.41 Quit froggyman (*.net *.split) 22.31.42 Quit Stephen__ (*.net *.split) 22.31.42 Quit JdGordon_ (*.net *.split) 22.31.42 Quit Schmogel (*.net *.split) 22.31.48 # A voice tells me that 24810 is OK 22.31.56 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r24872): sd-as3525v2: Add some register bit descriptions. 22.31.58 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 22.32.27 Join Stephen__ [0] (~S@86-45-68-64-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) 22.32.30 # Armandiux: feel free to extend the plugin, and provide a patch :-) 22.32.38 Quit pamaury (Quit: abort();) 22.32.41 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-220-42.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.33.05 # What is the fft plugin? Is it in the manual? 22.33.46 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 22.34.19 Quit tmzt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.34.35 # I can't find it in the manual :/ 22.34.43 # unless I'm searching for the wrong thing 22.34.54 # hm, IIRC archivator provided a manual patch, or at least some text 22.35.02 # looks like its still missing in the manual. 22.35.45 # FS#11005 has the start for a manual entry about this new plugin. 22.36.15 Join tmzt [0] (~tmzt@adsl-99-164-34-42.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) 22.36.37 # Oh, I remember 22.36.45 # That patch is pretty pointless 22.37.02 # A very non-standard button table and no description of what the plugin actually is 22.37.07 # Or screen shots etc 22.38.18 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.38.35 # And those lines with several hundred targets in an opt are nasty :) 22.39.25 # If he/someone could write something about what it actually does I'd do the manualification 22.41.15 # r24816 is the one that broke voice 22.42.26 # foaly: the last working revision is r24815 22.43.27 # oh 22.44.09 # foaly: if you set the language explicitely to english, it will magically start working again 22.44.47 # Ah in config.cfg? 22.45.17 # * foaly looks at the log for r24816 22.45.28 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 22.45.49 # * foaly wonders how that broke speech support 22.46.33 # foaly: if you do it by editing config.cfg, you need "lang: /.rockbox/langs/english.lng" I think 22.46.47 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/?view=log is *sloooow*! 22.47.08 # It breaks voice by setting the default language to "-" instead of "" 22.47.40 # Ah 22.47.59 Quit toffe82 (*.net *.split) 22.47.59 Quit iq (*.net *.split) 22.47.59 Quit topik (*.net *.split) 22.47.59 Quit Ypsy (*.net *.split) 22.48.00 Quit mikroflops_ (*.net *.split) 22.48.00 Quit gevaerts (*.net *.split) 22.48.00 Quit jobec (*.net *.split) 22.48.02 Join topik [0] (awesome@wtf.grmpf.org) 22.48.02 Join jobec [0] (paulus@viherharakka.cs.tut.fi) 22.48.03 # bloody hell 22.48.09 # gevaerts: thanks! 22.48.10 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@217-208-157-242-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 22.48.14 # that shuold be a simple fix at least 22.48.21 Join Ypsy [0] (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.48.28 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 22.48.33 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 22.48.51 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@94-225-132-3.access.telenet.be) 22.48.53 Quit gevaerts (Changing host) 22.48.53 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 22.49.09 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.55.20 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 22.55.54 # anyone know where lang_core_load() is? 22.56.21 # and talk_init() 22.56.22 Quit AsusFreak (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.56.34 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.91.106) 22.56.40 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.56.40 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.91.106) 22.58.06 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r24873): Fix voice with unset "lang" setting which was broken by r24816. ... 22.58.15 # I think the simplest fix is to change the lang_file line in the r24816 diff back to how it was 22.58.25 # yes 22.58.42 # :) 22.59.07 # If it' 22.59.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.59.17 # s not the proper fix, kugel can improve on it later :) 22.59.25 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev) 22.59.44 # gevaerts: thanks for volunteering someone! 22.59.56 # Bagder: he's the one who broke it! 23.00.20 # shouldn't we then roll him in a tarpit first as well? 23.00.31 # * foaly giggles 23.00.38 # can we? :) 23.01.12 Join AsusFreak [0] (~55b04ace@gateway/web/freenode/x-awamxbpygjhvnoky) 23.03.20 # anyone know who removed the ultima theme for ipod video ? 23.05.46 # Hi. I have a question. Today I wanted to download my new D2/Ipod Video theme. While uploading I got a parsing error of the checkwps instance. I currently use the daily build just to get the multifont support. I suppose that the checkwps tool of the uploading side checks against the last stable build V3.5. Is this right? I remember in the past it was possible to upload themes for the actual build in spite of not being compatibl 23.06.05 # checkwps is currently broken 23.06.11 # AsusFreak: no. It checks against current and last release 23.06.31 # And as JdGordon_ says, current checkwps isn't feeling too well 23.06.42 # so in which way am i able to check why it went wrong? 23.06.59 # try again tomrowow 23.07.13 # Ok - that's easy. Thanks. 23.07.55 # Stephen__: that was me. 23.08.50 # do i just need to credit the people in the theme description ? 23.09.03 # * domonoky thinks that would be fine. 23.09.12 # ok will i reupload ? 23.09.57 # if you give me the revised description, i can also edit and unhide the theme if you want. 23.09.59 Join piotrm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 23.10.30 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053152065.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.10.30 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 23.10.30 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.10.34 # basically i was just gonna copy wha tit had in the old description ? -> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WpsIpod5g#Ultima_v1_1 23.11.10 Quit piotrekm (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.11.10 Nick piotrm is now known as piotrekm (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 23.11.18 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.11.19 # just credit the makers 23.11.47 # Stephen__: please pastebin me a nice text with the correct credits :-) 23.11.55 # ok 2 mins 23.15.26 # domonoky, http://pastebin.com/cWaPu1se that ok ? 23.15.52 # a bit short, but ok :-) 23.16.13 # short bu sweet, and thanks. i'll be sure to add it to the descriptions in future 23.16.18 # a few more ipod themes to update 23.17.01 # done. 23.17.14 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.17.41 # thanksws 23.17.45 # thanks* 23.18.44 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.19.11 Join mc2739_ [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 23.21.20 Quit ecio1 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.22.42 # domonoky, can you also update http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=534&target=iriverh10_5gb with the info from http://pastebin.com/CXJ37M0x 23.24.33 # done 23.24.55 # thanks.i have some other ones i've done from the theme site and not given propercredit 23.26.43 Join eng1234 [0] (aSmareka@94.128.76.163) 23.27.09 # hi 23.29.06 # hi 23.29.12 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE21851.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.29.22 # how are you 23.30.02 # this channel is logged please only discuss rockbox related things 23.30.16 # yes i know 23.32.17 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 23.32.57 # hi dear in my hand mp3 player usb broken 23.35.51 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@32.131.4.136) 23.39.08 # eng1234: Do you have a question? 23.39.31 Join Strife89|PalmTX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-154-2-248.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.40.30 Quit jgarvey (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.42.02 Quit AsusFreak (Quit: Page closed) 23.46.52 Quit efyx_ (Quit: Quitte) 23.46.59 Join efyx_ [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 23.47.29 # When I build Simulator of a device, does the firmware become part of the output/build? 23.50.03 # I guess it does. Otherwise why would it work. 23.50.36 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.50.48 # what does "firmware" mean in simulator context? 23.55.00 # I am trying to understand this line "Code in firmware/ and apps/ are subject to get simulated", on this document: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator 23.55.18 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-071-070-229-130.nc.res.rr.com) 23.55.56 # Since it is a simulator not emulator we do not have the exact firmware as we will have for a real device/hardware. 23.56.48 Join akur [0] (~akur@bl6-159-244.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.57.07 # lots of things in firmware are either not compiled at all for the sim, or are compiled in a radically altered form 23.57.38 # since there is no real hardware to have drivers for, and only some possible deviecs make sense to simulate in terms of host OS funcitonality 23.58.05 Quit Farthen (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158])