--- Log for 24.02.110 Server: wolfe.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.02 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.00.12 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@69.41.192.215) 00.00.48 # thanks Torne 00.01.08 # the #ifdefs for the simulator are normally pretty obvious ;) 00.01.27 Quit eng1234 () 00.02.44 # Hey, I noticed in this new build, when I go into a menu the disk spins up. This didn't used to happen. What's it doing? 00.03.00 # any menu, or just the filebrowser? 00.03.11 # do you have dircache enabled? 00.03.18 # Seems any menu 00.03.34 Quit kimi-sharamin (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.04.02 # Yeah, dircache is one of the first things I turned on after booting the player. heh 00.04.17 # do you have a voice file installed? 00.04.31 # (and is it voicing?) 00.04.56 # Yep. It didn't used to make the disk spin up when I opened a menu though 00.12.43 Quit iq (Remote host closed the connection) 00.17.53 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@adsl-99-158-46-229.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 00.17.53 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 00.17.53 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 00.20.56 # foaly: what font are you using? are there vastly different characters in the menus as your wps? 00.21.02 # (thats unlikely the reason thgouh) 00.21.30 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.24.59 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.25.25 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@gate-22.spsu.edu) 00.25.30 # No idea, I'm just using the defaults, except I've enabled dircache, keyclick and just now the equalizer 00.26.57 Quit karashata (Quit: The fluffy dragon has left completely!) 00.28.53 Quit bertrik (Quit: De groeten) 00.33.28 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.35.07 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 00.35.11 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@gate-22.spsu.edu) 00.36.44 Quit Schmogel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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"It modifies the behaviour of touch buttons to be more similar to the way gui buttons operate in ... 07.27.17 Quit Tomis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.28.09 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.82.4) 07.29.09 # S_a_i_n_t: FS#10996 is still valid? 07.38.25 Join tomers [0] (~86bfe845@giant.haxx.se) 07.39.21 # JdGordon: ping 07.39.26 # hey 07.41.19 # JdGordon: following r24871, I think that the recorder quick screen is a bit buggy 07.41.41 # I'm not exactly surprised 07.42.23 # the QS controls statusbar, but the bottom statusbar doesn't vanish when you set it to TOP, etc. 07.42.30 # it feels totally broken 07.43.29 # feel free to pick a better setting to put there 07.43.37 # i don't really care about it (have no such DAP) but when I fixed FS#11037 I've noticed it. 07.44.08 # it's not about what settings to have, it's about whether the statusbar works correctly on that target 07.44.14 # Hmmm...My bootloader is saying "cannot load linux.bin", but I'm trying to boot to OF, what's going on? 07.44.30 # apple_os.ipod is present...and where it should eb. 07.44.33 # *be. 07.45.28 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.45.30 # JdGordon: can you compile the recorder simulator and see for yourself? it might be a bug in the statusbar code, sbs, whatever, I'm not that familiar with that 07.45.31 # tomers: well, if someone actually used that target and cared they would have let us know 07.45.42 # JdGordon: ok... 07.45.48 # the statusbar shouldnt be there 07.45.54 # on the QS i mean 07.46.06 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@ool-457bccf5.dyn.optonline.net) 07.46.52 # JdGordon: if it's just one line solution (disable it) than can you please try and do it? or let me know what to do? 07.47.17 # it is, but then we need to decide a better item to put there 07.47.31 # frankly I dont care that much, noone uses the recorder 07.48.22 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 07.48.44 # i would like to think that Rockbox v4 should drop support for charcell targets (hope noone takes this personally) 07.49.02 # haha 07.49.18 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.49.46 # there is no way charcell and hwcodec will die any timesoon 07.49.54 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 07.51.53 Quit tomers (Quit: CGI:IRC) 07.54.39 Quit kramer3d (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.08.23 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.08.54 # JdGordon: there's a tracker entry for the broken F3 quickscreen since last weekend - and it's not only visually broken but causes crashes 08.11.17 # well, actually you can't tell if it is visually broken because the crashes happen on entering 08.19.11 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 08.19.11 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 08.19.11 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.21.10 # can anyone else confirm they have "2) OSOS contains Rockbox and the Rockbox bootloader" working? 08.21.48 # it's failing for me while attempting to boot into OF with "cannot load linux.bin" 08.29.24 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.34.08 Quit karashata (Quit: The fluffy dragon has left completely!) 08.34.25 Quit AndyI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.34.47 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.208.234) 08.47.06 Quit Tomis (Quit: Tomis) 08.55.22 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.82.4) 08.56.45 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 08.59.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.00.23 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.02.18 Quit gr1b () 09.03.50 Join petur [0] (~petur@213.49.144.150) 09.03.54 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.03.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.05.46 Join kaniini [0] (~kaniini65@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 09.15.04 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host118-166-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.17.57 # S_a_i_n_t: Torne would be the person to ask. But looking at the bootloader source code, it only tries to load linux.bin if you're holding the PLAY button. 09.18.45 # linuxstb: well...something is broken then. 09.19.18 # *as I'm definately not holding the play button....hold is on while it's booting, so I couldn;t be anyway :P 09.21.13 # S_a_i_n_t: And you're compiling your own bootloader from current SVN, without any changes? 09.21.21 # yep 09.26.58 # S_a_i_n_t: Then it doesn't make any sense. You'll need to debug it yourself - e.g. by adding "printf" statements into the bootloader to see what's going on. 09.28.03 # At line 320 (i.e. directly after btn=key_pressed();) you could add the two lines "verbose=true;" and "printf("btn=%d",btn);" to show what button(s) the bootloader thinks are pressed. 09.28.37 # i'm updating/reintalling with latest svn to double-check i didn't mess it up myself. 09.29.12 # ...then i'll try that if its still messed up 09.29.32 # s/that/your suggestion/ 09.31.33 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 09.38.29 Quit MuscleNerd (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.41.35 Join MuscleNerd [0] (eric@adsl-75-27-189-151.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 09.57.33 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 09.57.36 # hi guys 09.57.38 # quick question 09.57.49 # how to update rockbox on my player? 09.59.30 # simply copy the new .rockbox? 09.59.57 # unzip a new rockbox zip 10.07.21 # B4gder: yes, "simply copy the new .rockbox" 10.07.37 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.07.53 # that's not what I advice, no 10.08.05 # unless .rockbox is the folder ;) 10.08.09 # knittl: The recommended way is "extract the rockbox.zip to the root (top-level) directory of your player" 10.08.23 # i.e. extract the zip to the device, not extract to your PC then copy 10.08.24 # linuxstb: oh ok 10.08.39 # but when installing the first time it says unpack on pc 10.08.53 # What is "it" ? The Rockbox manual? 10.09.12 Part LinusN 10.09.29 # it is rockbox in that case 10.09.33 # following the manual 10.09.59 # where does it say unpack on a PC? 10.10.16 # sec. 10.10.32 # btw, it still says on the homepage sansa e200v2 is unusable 10.11.04 # knittl: No it doesn't 10.11.07 # Which homepage? www.rockbox.org lists it as stable. 10.11.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/ 10.11.19 # oh 10.11.20 # clip 10.11.24 # my bad 10.11.25 Mode "#rockbox -o rasher" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 10.11.31 # and ok … it actually says unzip on device 10.11.47 # why not extract+copy? 10.12.09 # because people mess up then 10.12.13 # even more 10.12.18 # It's an unnecessary extra step. 10.12.31 # And as B4gder says, the more steps you have, the more chance something goes wrong. 10.12.38 # ya, i understand 10.13.04 # but bootloader doesn't have to be updated? only .rockbox? 10.13.16 # Correct - the bootloader rarely changes. 10.13.31 # ok great. thanks a bunch! 10.17.42 # linuxstb: I figured it out...rockbox.ipod was in the OSOS, but it wasn't in /.rockbox 10.18.15 # *slaps forhaed* 10.18.21 # *head rather 10.18.52 # S_a_i_n_t: Huh? That shouldn't have given you a "linux.bin" error. And if it's in the OSOS, it shouldn't be needed in .rockbox. 10.19.45 Join AndyIL [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 10.20.22 Join AsusFreak [0] (~c1003c16@giant.haxx.se) 10.21.37 Quit AndyI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.23.13 # linuxstb: Hmmm, yes...you're quite correct. it (rockbox.ipod) doesn;t need to be in /.rockbox/ if its in OSOS...I forgot that. I just deleted it, and got the same linux.bin error, then hard restarted and it works all of a sudden 10.23.37 # * S_a_i_n_t fails to see what (if anything) he did wrong, and whats going on here... 10.24.34 # Hi. I just want to confirm that the checkwps tool on the rockbox.org upload side is working again. Yesterday it causes some errors while uploading themes. Today it seems to be fixed - uploading worked well. Thank you. 10.29.07 # JdGordon: Why do you think WPS tags don't belong in the manual? 10.30.28 # well...at least there wouldnt de any descrepancies between the wiki and the manual then :P 10.31.51 # If it appears in only one place, I think that place should be the manual 10.32.10 # * gevaerts also thinks that most plugin pages on the wiki should go 10.32.17 # I agree, on both points 10.32.33 # In fact, probably all plugin pages? 10.33.56 # pages like PluginMpegPlayer and PluginDoom can stay I think. Those have content that I think isn't for the manual 10.34.18 # Ah yes 10.38.27 Quit karashata (Quit: The fluffy dragon has left completely!) 10.50.57 # Is it bertrik or buschel who is Mr. Musepack? 10.52.58 # * S_a_i_n_t suggests release build should just come with cabbie & the default font... 10.53.08 # *builds 10.53.46 # S_a_i_n_t: that's the idea really 10.54.24 # everything else is available on the site or through rbutil though...no? 10.54.43 # AlexP: that's Buschel 10.56.57 # i find i end up just deleting everything except cabbie and its font (a good 4~5 full themes + fonts)..then just add the theme i use. 10.57.19 # i assume a few others do the same. 10.58.11 # why? 10.58.31 # to fit 3 seconds of more music! 10.58.46 # as i *never* use them... 10.59.07 # Well it does make sense to remove the themes - there's no good reason for us to ship them really 10.59.24 # that I agree with 10.59.26 # yes, I agree there 10.59.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.59.35 # But removing them from the device afterwards? 11.00.23 # Yes, I agree to remove the other themes 11.00.32 # And stick them on the theme site 11.00.57 # gevaerts: There is a question about which version of musepack we support on the forums 11.01.17 Quit jfc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.01.19 # why not? why have someting sitting there taking up any space at all if its not used? be it 10K or 10MB 11.02.07 # I wouldn't wory about the space persoanlly, but I might remove them so as to not clutter up the theme selection menu 11.02.07 # and...some of the themes are just terrible... ;p 11.02.11 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 11.03.12 # S_a_i_n_t: If somone were to put all the shipped (save Cabbie v2) themes on the themesite, it would help to get them removed... :) 11.03.51 # ...is that a hint? 11.03.51 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@62.87.184.82) 11.04.00 # S_a_i_n_t: maybe :) 11.04.37 # are thy *not* all there? whats missing? 11.07.25 # I don't think any of them are there 11.07.48 # unifont is reasonably big, but I don't think we can really remove that 11.10.17 # Would be nice to have a unifont version of cabbie (on targets where it's at all possible) 11.14.10 Join fizzmaister [0] (~805f854f@giant.haxx.se) 11.16.17 # removing unifont makes sense on quite a few targets... 11.16.48 # nano for instance, its just TOO big 11.17.39 # S_a_i_n_t: I disagree 11.17.56 # S_a_i_n_t: for some it's the only font that works for their language. 11.18.27 # Unless the height of the screen is less than 2 lines of unifont, it makes sense 11.18.27 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 11.18.37 # (but a cabbie port doesn't) 11.19.27 Quit fizzmaister (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 11.20.43 Join fizzmaister [0] (~805f854f@giant.haxx.se) 11.20.51 # Hello, I have a question that I didn't see in the manual. I have a gen 5 ipod (30G video) and I was wondering how Rockbox would treat .txt files on it. As you probably know, the ipod has a character limit for each .txt file and a limit of 1000 that it will see on the ipod. Does Rockbox act the same way or is it more sane? 11.21.34 # I wonder if "complete/incomplete" are better names than "stable/unstable" for the ports. the unstable ones are not necessarily unstable. 11.21.44 # fizzmaister: the limits of the OF do not affect rockbox 11.22.20 # Hello, I have a question that I didn't see in the manual. I have a gen 5 ipod (30G video) and I was wondering how Rockbox would treat .txt files on it. As you probably know, the ipod has a character limit for each .txt file and a limit of 1000 that it will see on the ipod. Does Rockbox act the same way or is it more sane? 11.23.06 # fizzmaister: please read the response funman gave you 11.26.48 # Ok thanks, I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a hardware thing. 11.29.13 # wow, sorry for the lag 11.32.50 Join mt [0] (~MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 11.37.08 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.37.17 Quit fizzmaister (Quit: CGI:IRC) 11.40.16 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87-196-181-110.net.novis.pt) 11.40.23 # hello :-) 11.41.15 # can someone tell me if 4MBytes SDRAM is needed on Rockbox as minimum, is that for do audio codec ou for the grafics color LCD? 11.42.22 # because I would like to know if a 100MHz ARM Cortex M3 with external bus for SDRAM, would be ok for running Rockbox (with a small color LCD) 11.42.43 # Casainho: c200v2 has 2MB +320kB of SDRAM, with a color LCD 11.43.15 # even though i would go for 4M, and not for 2 11.43.20 # playback is somehow buggy though 11.43.55 # and the problem for playback is because of less memory or of processor power? 11.44.12 # less memory, so TheSeven's advice would avoid it 11.44.24 # ok 11.44.39 # do you know what MCU it have? it's dual core? 11.45.28 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.108) 11.45.32 # single core arm922tdmi 11.45.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS has a link to the SoC datasheet 11.46.09 # funman: ok, at 200MHz? 11.46.17 # TheSeven: i'll try to steal the nano3g from my brother this week end 11.46.40 # Casainho: 250MHz 11.46.58 # funman: that internal 320Kb are important for audio decoding? 11.46.59 # "The processor executes Thumb®-2 instruction set" 11.47.09 # (cortex m3) 11.47.10 # Casainho: no 11.47.26 # that sounds like a reaaaaly good choice ;-) 11.47.30 # B4gder: and can that be a problem? 11.47.38 # yes 11.47.40 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.47.56 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.68.108) 11.48.39 # so, I need to continue with ARM9 11.48.47 # or Cortex Ax 11.48.50 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.49.00 # Casainho: you have a bazillion options really 11.49.32 # I was looking for NXP, TI and Atmel ARM Cortex M3 11.49.47 # the problem is that ARM9 have a big pin count... 11.50.25 # I would like to try make a player like that Sansa C200 11.50.52 # small LCD and features, but good audio and SD Card storage 11.51.17 # Cortex M series just won't work, you'll either need an A-series Cortex or an "old" ARM 11.52.18 # why not just a s3c2440 or something? 11.54.47 # well, I can't produce a board for that 11.55.07 # and so we stick with Mini2440, which have that one S3C2440 11.56.22 # http://lyre.sourceforge.net/?q=content/mini2440-porting 11.58.01 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.58.16 # what's the problem with the 2440? if you can't produce a board for that, will you be able to produce one for any other suitable soc? 11.59.30 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.00.58 # probably all of them will be quite similar in regards to pin count / packaging 12.07.00 Quit kaniini (Quit: BRB! IRL!) 12.07.06 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.13.18 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 12.18.15 Join FOAD_ [0] (~dok@dinah.blub.net) 12.21.25 Quit FOAD (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.21.25 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (~dok@dinah.blub.net) 12.30.06 # S_a_i_n_t: I have rockbox and the bootloader in OSOS, that's the reason I wrote the code to support that. And you *must not* have rockbox.ipod in .rockbox or the one in OSOS will not be used. There is no explanation for your problem other than the buttons being read wrong or otherwise defective :) 12.30.18 # New commit by 03uchida (r24877): libpcm: deletes PCM_CHUNK_SIZE. ... 12.30.57 # TheSeven: we really should work out how to get rockbox to build in thumb/thumb2 12.31.32 # that's the only reason we couldn't run on an M3 that had a suitably sized external RAM 12.31.44 Quit shaggy-h () 12.31.59 # Torne: it *seemed* to be a problem with just that version? or something currupted on transfer...not sure? I updated to current SVN and it did it once, then I figured I should restart (duh), and it was fine. 12.32.15 # that seems spectacularly unlikely, but who knows :) 12.33.12 # the code is entirely trivial: if hold is on or menu is pressed, boot the original firmware (from apple_os.ipod if that exists, otherwise from OSOS if it's there, otherwise crash), if play is pressed boot linux.bin, otherwise boot rockbox (from rockbox.ipod if it exists, otherwise from OSOS if it's there, otherwise crash) 12.33.24 # there is no fallback path that leads to a *different* OS being booted than the one you selected 12.34.04 # the most reasonable fallback would be diskmode ;-) 12.34.15 # so if you see the linux.bin error message then the bootloader *definately* saw the play button pressed 12.34.27 # and if you weren't pressing it then either our driver is broken or your hardware is ;) 12.34.40 # TheSeven: Indeed :) 12.34.45 # TheSeven: Havne't had time to try that one out yet though 12.34.59 # actually hm, i guess we could boot the rom disk mode 12.35.11 # instead of bringing in the rockbox usb stack 12.35.25 # just write that magic "diskmodehotstuff\x01\0\0" string to a certain location before crashing :-) 12.35.46 # well, as I said...booting to RB was fine, then I tried to boot to OF (not sure why I did that actually, I never do) and booting to OF using menu doesn;t seem to work (but apparently it used to or does for some targets?) so I have to boot into OF using hold, so I figure I *cant* of been pressing play. 12.36.00 # not sure WTF was going on...but its fixed now :D 12.36.02 # S_a_i_n_t: booting to menu should work, but it has been reported in the distant past that it doesn't work for some people 12.36.08 # perhaps on certain models only 12.36.18 # the hold switch option was added later because of that 12.36.34 # are you actually booting rockbox from osos thoguh? :) 12.36.59 # TheSeven: well, we could just wait for a button press and start disk mode from rom if pressed 12.37.00 # aha...it says in the manual for Nano at least that menu works..it probably shouldn;t, as it doesn;t 12.37.19 # S_a_i_n_t: I would want confirmation from multiple Nano owners before we changed that 12.37.23 # it *should* work on every target 12.37.26 # er, model 12.37.42 # TheSeven? 12.37.52 # menu doesn;t work for you does it? 12.37.56 # if it doesn't work for an entir emodel then the opto code in the bootloader might be broken 12.37.57 # *to boot OF that is. 12.37.58 # i don't have an 1g 12.38.05 # the bootloader has its own implementation of the button reading code 12.38.16 # maybe it's not right for some models 12.38.36 # it doesn't work for me on 1 or 2g nano...but thats me. 12.38.49 # 2g nano is a totally seperate bootloader 12.38.51 # so, not relevant 12.38.56 # it's known-broken on the 2g, but i have a fix for that 12.39.11 # how ar eyou doing it, also? 12.39.18 # are you just pressing menu to turn the player on and holding it? 12.40.19 # aha....perhaps it needs some clarification then :D 12.40.28 # * S_a_i_n_t feels slightly sheepish now 12.41.51 # it reads the button values pretty early.. 12.41.58 # if you just turn it on and then press menu you might not be quick enough 12.42.07 # menu and select both power the ipods on, so you can ust press and hold menu from the start 12.43.24 # could a wait be put in...? 12.44.00 # it wouldn;t need to be massive, but apparantly it isn;t possible to hold menu soon enough on Nano1g if you use select to power on 12.44.13 # (damn semicolon!) 12.44.30 # that seems like a workaround for the manual not being clear enough, rather than a feature 12.44.43 # the whole point of the OSOS boot stuff is to allow people who know what they're doing to boot faster ;) 12.44.51 # If the instructions aren't clear enough submit a patch to the instructions ;) 12.46.31 # New commit by 03uchida (r24878): add SMAF codec (.mmf extension)(FS#10432) ... 12.54.13 Quit Casainho (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.54.41 Join azka [0] (~aZk@125.164.225.245) 12.54.57 Part azka 12.59.04 Join AsaelReiter [0] (~d59730fa@giant.haxx.se) 12.59.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.04.52 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~cold@p54A5D3F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.06.43 Quit AsaelReiter (Quit: CGI:IRC) 13.09.29 # Yay! jtag on my sansa c200v2: 13.09.31 # > scan_chain 13.09.31 # TapName Enabled IdCode Expected IrLen IrCap IrMask 13.09.31 # -- ------------------- -------- ---------- ---------- ----- ----- ------ 13.09.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK ranmachan 13.09.31 # 0 auto0.tap Y 0x00922f0f 0x00922f0f 4 0x01 0x03 13.09.38 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.10.19 # yay! 13.11.41 # New commit by 03uchida (r24879): fix red. ... 13.14.50 Join perfectdrug__ [0] (~marko@p5B0ED37A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.16.35 # Is uchida's IRC nick also urchida? 13.17.05 # yes 13.17.10 # the first one :-) 13.17.17 # As I'd like to ask him to add the new extensions to the stats plugn and the manual while he is at it, but he doesn't seem to be here 13.17.55 # I'd quite like it to be a general "rule" in fact that people are on IRC while they commit stuff 13.18.25 Quit perfectdrug_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.18.50 Join pondlife [0] (~Steve@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 13.18.55 Quit pondlife (Changing host) 13.18.55 Join pondlife [0] (~Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 13.20.40 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 13.20.40 # * pondlife notices his cloak didn't work for some reason... 13.20.45 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 13.22.47 # pondlife: You identified (or your client did) too late so a part and rejoin was faked 13.23.03 # * Torne has reopened FS#5230, does someone want to have a look/think? :) 13.23.21 # New commit by 03uchida (r24880): sorry, I forget tools/database/SOURCES. 13.23.32 # AlexP: That went over my head a little - but I assume it's a matter of luck ;) 13.24.14 # I came on to see if uchida was around - 2K red is a lot for a new PCM codec (that I won't use).... 13.24.46 # +18K on ZVMs ;) 13.24.46 # It is a matter of how you identify - if you use SASL, or give the nickserv pass as freenode's server password, it will identify before you join a channel and all is good. If you identify normally then it can happen that you identify after you join a channel (but this is off-topic) :) 13.24.59 # pondlife: I also wanted to speak to him 13.25.16 # I wanted to request that the manual file types appendix and the stats plugin were updated 13.25.35 # I'd generally like people to be on IRC when they commit for just this sort of thing 13.26.22 # * AlexP sends an e-mail 13.27.25 # what added those 2K? was it just the metadata parser? 13.27.30 # Guesss so 13.27.34 # ssss 13.28.18 # Wonder if we can move more of the parsing into the codec? 13.28.34 # Do we use file extension to choose a codec alone? 13.28.42 # (Or contents too?) 13.28.46 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 13.31.08 Join overos [0] (~4dde7a55@giant.haxx.se) 13.31.50 Quit overos (Client Quit) 13.37.53 Join TopyMobile_ [0] (~topy@f049023120.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.38.20 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 13.41.20 Quit TopyMobile (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.46.37 # pondlife: i don't think we should move it to the codec, since the metadata is associated with the container, not the codec 13.47.11 Join kaniini [0] (~kaniini65@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 13.59.15 # * S_a_i_n_t is starting to notice a *lot* of discrepencies between the menu entries and the "Title Bar". Example "Theme Settings/Fonts/" the title bar is "fonts" (lower case f) 13.59.27 # this seems to happen on quite a few menus... 14.00.01 # S_a_i_n_t: again, that's because the fonts browser is really just the filebrowser showing you the directory ".rockbox/fonts" 14.00.08 # (same as plugins, languages, etc) 14.00.45 # Hmmm...it *really* would be nice to have them be consistent IMO 14.01.41 # Yay! My C240v2 is now officially unbricked. 14.03.04 # ranmachan: well done! 14.05.18 # couldn;t that title bar thing be "fixed" prett easily? I mean I understand that when searching out a theme/font/wps its going to be loking in "themes" "font" or "wps"...but the Title Bar could be made to say *anything* for these instances..no? 14.06.19 # Someone needs to make a way to pass a title to the file browser or something like that 14.06.23 # Perfectly doable, yes 14.06.46 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 14.06.52 # ...opens up to themes 14.06.52 # *themers as well I guess. 14.07.20 # What? 14.07.55 # I *think* JdGordon mentions something similar as a replacement for %cs 14.08.04 # but I may of misunderstood it. 14.08.33 # New commit by 03uchida (r24881): fix yellow 14.11.58 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@e179234243.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.14.47 # LinusN: True. The extension indicates the container, not the codec(s)... 14.18.45 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE21BF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.25.54 # pondlife: if that :) 14.26.16 # Ah, what did I miss? 14.26.33 # Or is the file contents parsed to indicate container format? 14.27.28 # that's how you do it yeah (extensions might provide a hint but it's inaccurate and can be plain wrong) 14.28.13 # I don't know how it's implemented in rockbox though 14.29.19 # I was wondering about Rockbox (pondlife being on-topic for once). 14.32.18 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 14.32.22 Join froggymana [0] (~187b533e@giant.haxx.se) 14.37.43 # pondlife: according to apps/metadata.c I'd say that rockbox relies on the extension 14.38.03 # That waa my thought, thanks. 14.43.04 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 14.45.21 # it might be a good idea to have a second pass trying all the metadata plugins if that failed. (I don't know if that would help anybody though, most people have correct extensions) 14.45.40 # No, I'm happy not to change that. 14.46.24 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.46.46 # Just wondered if there was some way the metadata parser could be seperated from the core (e.g. container being loaded like codec). Probably not practical. 14.47.03 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@ool-457bccf5.dyn.optonline.net) 14.47.12 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 14.47.12 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.47.53 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@gssn-5f755ae0.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.49.45 # * dionoea checked how vlc does it: the extension is used as a hint to load the demuxing plugin. If that hint was a false positive it fallbacks to the default module loading scheme which is just to try them all sequentially, sorted acording to a score. 14.50.50 # seems a bit unecessary for Rockbox 14.51.07 # Or rather overcomplicated for the gain it gives when resources are limited 14.51.47 # indeed 14.52.01 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.52.07 Quit ved (Quit: leaving) 14.52.18 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 14.52.22 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 14.52.41 Quit ecio (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.59.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.01.06 Join ved [0] (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 15.16.16 Quit antil33t () 15.23.17 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 15.32.42 Join Omlet [0] (omlet05@91.181.224.87) 15.39.54 Join ecio [0] (~ecio@adsl-065-081-069-051.sip.mco.bellsouth.net) 15.44.45 Join maffe [0] (~Miranda@188-194-163-227-dynip.superkabel.de) 15.47.07 Quit maffe (Client Quit) 15.51.02 Quit froggymana (Quit: CGI:IRC) 16.02.36 Part b0hoon ("GTG Bye.") 16.07.35 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 16.08.16 # ranmachan: good job for your c200v2! 16.09.30 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@wlan-nat-24.fh-friedberg.de) 16.09.30 # Thanks 16.09.56 Join evilnick_B [0] (~0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.10.08 Quit kaniini (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.13.52 Join saratoga [0] (~9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-mkhguflowfneofqi) 16.14.38 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 16.20.14 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 16.21.16 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 16.23.00 Part iq 16.23.54 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 16.28.23 Quit Omlet (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 16.39.31 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.41.23 # ranmachan: did you happen to notice what the OF uses for PCLK? 16.45.19 # pclk = memclk = plla/6 (in usb mode) 16.45.53 # saratoga: Posted a clocking block reg dump in the forum 16.46.49 # I want to do another one in normal mode, I guess the easiest way is to put some tape on the usb data lines and hope that will not trigger the USB detection in OF then. 16.47.03 # it's 384MHz in the dump, so pclk = 64MHz 16.48.59 # ranmachan: misread 16.49.18 # but can you use the JTAG while the player is running normally without USB? 16.51.58 # saratoga: Sure, the JTAG has it's own USB connection :) http://uguu.de/~ranma/c200v2_jtag_ft2232c.jpg 16.52.27 # ah so you're using the dock connector just for power 16.53.01 # Yeah. I can't put it in the case with all the cables, so I can't use the battery for power. 16.54.36 # pondlife: You cannot really separate the metadata parser from the core. Since the codec loaded into codec ram is the one used for the currently playing track, but you need the metadata parser at buffering time, it would mean to have yet another "plugin" type - the metadata parsers - which would need to be changed for each track to be buffered (worst case) 16.54.57 # You'd also get a lot of code duplication between them 16.56.29 # Like I said, probably a silly idea. I just baulked at the big lump of red delta earlier today. 16.57.04 # ~3k for a new format I doubt many will use 16.58.14 # why so much? 16.58.49 # pondlife: He says he has other formats to add too 16.59.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.59.41 Part LinusN 16.59.45 # static unsigned char smafbuf[1024]; 16.59.45 # It does things like using a 1K buffer to look at the data 16.59.50 # that probabyl doesn't need to be there 17.00.07 # if it does, it can probably be shared with other parsers 17.00.25 # doesn't the metadata parser have some buffer of its own 17.01.34 # even if it doesn't we could just read a couple smaller chunks 17.03.35 # or just put it on the stack 17.11.02 Part pondlife 17.24.33 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.26.38 Join pondlife [0] (~Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 17.27.33 # Anyone got a link to a SMAF file? 17.30.22 # hm clip bootloader doesn't work anymore 17.30.27 # (clipv1) 17.30.28 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 17.31.10 # can someone tell me the svn revision they use on clipv1 bootloader? 17.35.37 Quit AsusFreak (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 17.39.59 Join tomodachi [0] (~mamo@s-0008c7fabb8b.04-30-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.42.30 # Hmm, my H300 sim crashes on boot (with current SVN) 17.42.42 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 17.45.49 Quit Tomis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.46.15 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.108) 17.47.50 # i'll just use the bootloader from the download server 17.51.27 Part toffe82 17.52.32 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 17.52.41 # what's the "--type=b:XX" argument in buildserver/builds ? 17.53.01 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 17.53.03 # funman: it's "--type=b" 17.53.09 # : is the column separator 17.53.09 # b=bootloader, :XXX is the score? 17.53.19 # and yes, bootloader 17.54.55 # New commit by 03funman (r24882): Add Clipv2/Clip+ to the buildtable 17.55.42 # funman: the third column should be unique 17.56.16 # s/should/must/ 17.56.40 # ah i messed it for bootloaders 17.57.07 # New commit by 03funman (r24883): Give an unique name to Clipv2 & Clip+ bootloaders 17.57.22 # * funman wonders why zvm binsize jumped by 18kB in r24878 17.59.21 # alignment somewhere 17.59.42 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.00.05 # you mean some sections must be aligned on a several-kB boundary? 18.00.16 # apparently 18.01.03 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.01.15 # ttbtable is aligned on 16kB 18.01.27 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 18.01.42 # it should be put at the end of ram instead 18.02.10 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r24884): calibrate clip+ and clipv2 scores 18.02.58 # hm they take longer than Clipv1, interesting 18.03.54 # they do, yes. I built them twice, and I also built the v1 again to make sure the calibration wasn't off, so it's real 18.04.22 # did you calibrate bootloader? 18.04.24 Quit petur (Quit: work->home) 18.04.37 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-24-98-43-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.04.52 # Yes, they're close enough 18.05.30 # Two builds again, v2 750 and 749, + 747 and 792. 18.06.00 # Clipv2 has only 2 different files comparing to Clipv1, and i'd think they're small enough to not make a big difference, i'll ask gcc 18.06.41 # New commit by 03funman (r24885): fix a typo in comment 18.08.01 # hm there is also at least mpegplayer 18.08.21 # if firmware code didn't make a difference for bootloader, then it's only apps/ 18.08.52 Join TopyMobile__ [0] (~topy@f048247242.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.09.25 # mpegplayer, lua, libmad-mpeg, and some small differences about usb/radio/armv5 18.10.34 # those are probably enough to explain this 18.12.17 Join mitk [0] (~tomekk@chello089078013146.chello.pl) 18.12.20 Quit TopyMobile_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.12.31 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.13.56 # btw, what about using -Werror ? would it result into devs hiding legitimate warnings ? 18.14.30 # Would there be a real point in doing that? 18.14.42 # finding warnings before the build table 18.14.59 # yes, but also making working on code annoying 18.15.14 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@my.fastsh.it) 18.20.41 Join punkt [0] (~punkt@dslb-092-077-140-194.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.20.41 # New commit by 03pondlife (r24886): Put the SMAF metadata buffer on the stack to save some memory. Only tested with one SMAF file, so please check if you have more. 18.21.44 # * TheSeven has a certain feeling that this just broke SMAF on nano2g ;-) 18.21.49 # Heh 18.21.59 # A 1K buffer too big? 18.22.23 # Feel free to revert if so... 18.22.50 # which stack will it end up being in? 18.23.08 # The main/UI one, I think 18.23.26 # Metadata parser, not codec, anyways 18.23.42 # hm, pictureflow and rockboy already manage to overflow that one, while they don't on other targets 18.24.04 # do you have a smaf file for me so that i can check that? 18.24.41 # http://smaf-yamaha.com/tools/scas_sample.html ? 18.24.52 # You need PCM content 18.25.12 # Oops, wrong link 18.26.05 Join astra-x [0] (~astra-x@ip34-198-20-64.metroe.ctsmail.net) 18.26.42 # http://smaf-yamaha.com/what/demo_ma.html 18.28.30 # I used MarsMine.mmf 18.32.28 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.33.00 # GuitarMan doesn't work, either with the original commit or the last. 18.34.50 Join bluebro [0] (~bluebro@109.250.41.15) 18.34.52 # pondlife: do i need patchsets or something for those to work? 18.35.08 # Not as far as I know 18.35.21 # I just put MarsMine.mmf into my simdisk and played it. 18.38.21 # I should proabbly mention I'm *onl*y using a sim. 18.38.29 # *only*, even 18.41.41 Quit pondlife (Quit: Leaving.) 18.42.08 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 18.43.43 # * TheSeven threatens that he might try to fix the lua yellow if nobody else bothers 18.45.29 # * funman sees no yellow on the table 18.46.55 # funman: it's only turning up when building eabi 18.47.40 # -mabi=eabi ? 18.48.58 # ah there is a --eabi option to configure, but it seems i need to rebuild gcc 18.49.13 Join Grahack [0] (~Grahack@ip-252.net-81-220-6.versailles.rev.numericable.fr) 18.49.28 # so the sansa e260 when in rockbox uses mass storage device mode, yet I cannot write to the sansa in this mode. I have to boot into the original firmware and change the usb settings to MTP, what are the recommended ways to put data on the device? 18.49.45 # i tried in ubuntu 9.10, Mac OS X 10.6.2 and Windows 7 Ultimate 18.49.49 # asf has a 512 byte buffer on the metadata stack 18.49.59 # so at worst you could split that read into two 512 byte reads 18.50.37 # astra-x: mass storage on the sansa works for almost everyone, maybe its an issue with your pc? 18.50.45 # astra-x: have you checked the filesystem? 18.51.04 # astra-x: do you use MTP software to copy files or just copy/pasting ? 18.51.09 # yes, and it linux i become the owner of the mount point and files therein 18.51.16 # but it always mounts it read only 18.51.25 # and i try remounting it RW but that fails 18.51.28 # does dmesg say something about this? 18.51.31 # so i can't do things like chmod to write to it 18.51.34 # linux mounting read only usually means the filesystem has errors 18.51.39 Join S_a_i_n_t_ [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.142) 18.51.39 # just gives me the USB info 18.52.05 # yet, there is a microsd card in it and all OS'es can read and write fine to the sd card, yet rockbox cannot see any files on it 18.52.23 # does it just use vfat? 18.52.38 Join MkFly [0] (~80c125ae@giant.haxx.se) 18.52.49 # yes 18.52.55 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.53.22 # you can just fsck it the file system? 18.53.53 # I'm trying to patch a Sansa c250v1 firmware but I can't run sansapatcher because I don't have root access. Is there a program to patch the OF locally on my machine (so that then I could upgrade the Sansa firmware via recovery mode)? 18.53.55 # i just got the unit yesterday too--it was a refurb from newegg, but seems odd that is already has FS errors 18.55.02 # MkFly: just replied to your thread, but I don't think we have such a tool 18.55.12 # and yet mtp writes. funniest thing is rhythmbox has no problem playing media from it, but wmp 11 or 12 or whatever is on win7 just does not like it 18.55.26 # fsck.vfat or dosfsck should work, yes 18.56.32 # saratoga: Damn. Is there any documentation on the site about the patch files? Something that I could read to see where in the firmware the new code is going? 18.56.58 # what about reading the sdcard? should i make the sd just vfat too or ext2? 18.57.13 # it shows under files yet the .avi i put there is not to be listed 18.57.25 # rockbox supports FAT16 and FAT32 18.57.39 # check the "show files" setting. It's probably set to "supported" 18.57.56 # thanks guys 18.58.18 # Yeah, that sounds like your "Show files" setting isn't what you expect it to be 18.58.54 # which usually means that you discovered the quickscreen by accident 18.59.33 # MkFly: the sansapatcher program, but its probably much easier for you to just boot into linux off a CD and patch from there 18.59.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.42 # would take maybe 5 minutes once you've downloaded the ISO 19.00.41 # saratoga: I would, but this is a university machine and doesn't let you boot from anything but the HDD 19.01.06 # saratoga: Where can I find the source for sansapatcher? 19.01.16 # gevaerts: quick screen? 19.01.59 # The manual knows all about it! 19.02.33 # MkFly: its in rbutil/sansapatcher 19.02.55 # * astra-x reads the manual 19.03.08 # does usb HID usually cause problems for windows? 19.03.12 # saratoga: ah, found it, thanks 19.03.30 # astra-x: it has happened 19.03.49 # just wondering, seems to work really well on ubuntu 9.10 19.05.11 # though file browser can see the .txt files in / of the e260, like batterybench.txt 19.05.55 # rasher: the wps stuff shouldnt be in the manual because 1) its too long already which is scaring people away, and 2) it changes too often, and the wiki is FAR easier to keep updated 19.06.59 # JdGordon: could you try FS#11027 on sh one of these days? 19.07.07 # 1) The WPS tags are in an appendix 2) Why is the wiki easier to keep updated? If anything, once you're touching the code, it's simpler to updated the manual and include it in the commit, surely? 19.07.36 # gevaerts: remind me this evening or tomorow (I'm taking the day off work so should have plenty of time) 19.07.48 # ok 19.07.52 # because TeX is an abomination on the earth 19.09.19 # TeX is actually not that bad once you get used to it, particularly compared to trying the same degree of customization and preprocessing in Word 19.10.25 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 19.11.44 Join cfp [0] (~cfp@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 19.15.29 # Or the wiki... 19.15.55 # It's not like you have to create the manual each time 19.17.14 # except you do. it needs to be built, and then opened and make sure its correct... wiki is far simpler 19.17.52 # I mean you don't really have to do any tex work 19.18.46 Quit punkt (Remote host closed the connection) 19.19.34 # hello everyone! 19.20.00 # I think that FS#8983 can be closed (I opened it a long time ago (see my comment)) 19.20.46 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p5797C5AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.21.25 # cfp: done 19.21.33 # cool 19.21.58 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 19.22.30 Quit bluebro (Quit: used jmIrc) 19.23.17 # I've just posted a very basic alarm clock patch, at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11056 . Could someone have a look? 19.24.04 # I don't really know if this is going to be useful to many people, but I'd been thinking about it for a long time. 19.28.34 Join FOAD_ [0] (~dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.31.34 Quit MkFly (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 19.31.37 # int alarm[2] seems weird to store minutes/seconds 19.31.38 Quit FOAD (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.31.38 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (~dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.31.47 # what about int minutes and int seconds? 19.33.02 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 19.33.44 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.35.40 # and i would make int current a bool show_minutes or show_seconds, and use show_minutes = !show_minutes to switch 19.35.55 # (perhaps i should comment on the tracker) 19.36.13 # funman: it allowed me to not duplicate the code to add/substract minutes or seconds 19.36.35 # funman: this way, I could simply use + 1 mod max[current] 19.36.55 # hm i see 19.36.55 Join n00b81 [0] (~n00b81@unaffiliated/n00b81) 19.37.38 # funman: whereas I would have to use if (show_minutes) minutes = (minutes + 1) % 60 else etc. 19.38.18 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.38.42 Part tomodachi 19.39.11 # funman: I thought it would be a cleaner approach, but clean coding is not really my cup of tea 19.39.39 # funman: otherwise, do you like the concept? 19.39.45 # % should be avoided in performance critical code, but here it's alright i guess 19.39.53 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.39.54 # yes, although my players do not have enough runtime to use it :) 19.40.36 # funman: hmm :) I just leave my own charging overnight, usually 19.40.51 # funman: not good for the battery though (I guess) 19.41.54 # Unhelpful: afaiu lua's os_exit() doesn't return 19.42.02 # TheSeven: ^ (not Unhelpful) 19.42.39 # funman: by the way, why should % be avoided in perf-critical code? Isn't it pretty efficient (as in O(h)?) 19.43.23 Quit Hillshum (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.43.51 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@p4FD4C781.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.43.58 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.43.58 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.44.00 # i would think doing the > or < comparison is simpler 19.45.40 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 19.46.20 Quit Tomis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.46.27 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.108) 19.49.33 # TheSeven: gcc assumes os_exit() doesn't return even with a 'return 0' so there is no instruction after the call to exit() (== longjmp). 19.49.48 # * iq wonders if writing a plugin would be a good start to do some coding. 19.49.52 # funman: sure, but it adds some lines to the code, and here the euclidean division is pretty fast anyway... (I'm just lazy I guess) 19.51.18 Join petur [0] (~peter@d54C6F9B2.access.telenet.be) 19.51.18 Quit petur (Changing host) 19.51.18 Join petur [0] (~peter@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.52.22 # hm i don't understand where longjmp is defined, I see apps/codecs/lib/setjmp_arm.S but it doesn't look like what I see in disassembly 19.54.24 Quit komputes (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.54.34 # ah it's this one, i got confused by the macros 19.54.59 # I don't get why "tst lr, #1\n moveq pc, lr \n bx lr" is needed, wouldn't "bx lr" be enough ? 19.56.20 # cfp: can you write something in the manual for this plugin? 19.57.42 # funman: I sure can :) 19.57.47 # cfp: i'll commit it with s/128/sizeof(info)/ in draw(), if you agree with it 19.58.06 # that avoid problems when the string needs to be enlarged in some future 19.58.17 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 19.58.18 # funman: absolutely 19.58.43 Quit TheSphinX^ (Quit: XChat) 19.59.42 # funman: is a screenshot needed ? 19.59.54 # hm you didn't put a licence header in the new file 20.01.08 # nope 20.01.09 # I shall 20.01.37 # http://pastie.org/840971 is ok? 20.02.18 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24887): Add missing #include in libpcm codecs 20.02.30 # i think a screenshot isn't needed, for example there's none for the text editor 20.03.08 # funman: perfect! 20.03.17 # funman: I see one problem though 20.04.03 # when no playlist control file has been created, an error message is displayed (error accessing playlist control file) 20.04.11 # oh 20.04.17 # can this be avoided? 20.04.21 # no idea 20.05.19 # (I actually took the audio resume code from the playback menu, so the same happens when using the audio playback menu from any plugin) 20.05.34 # therefore I don't really think it's a problem 20.05.43 # provided it errors out very cleanly 20.06.22 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.18) 20.07.36 # i'm not familiar with this code so i prefer if someone else can comment on it 20.07.51 # sure 20.07.59 # I'll add a comment then on the tracker 20.09.20 # pondlife (for the logs): smaf is totally broken on nano2g 20.09.52 # metadata is sometimes fine, sometimes garbage, but it doesn't ever play anything with any of those test files 20.10.24 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 20.10.54 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 20.13.18 Quit Tomis (Quit: Tomis) 20.17.49 Join iq_ [0] (~iq@ext-B14-257.omhq.uprr.com) 20.17.53 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 20.18.27 Quit iq (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.19.44 Quit cfp (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.21.02 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.68.108) 20.23.37 Quit mitk (Quit: Ex-Chat) 20.23.57 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 20.23.59 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.24.23 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.24.56 Nick iq_ is now known as iq (~iq@ext-B14-257.omhq.uprr.com) 20.25.05 Quit iq (Changing host) 20.25.05 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 20.25.15 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.25.16 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 20.25.33 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.26.32 Quit toffe82 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.27.52 # How do we expose the string "testing" for plugin CATEGORIES file? 20.27.59 # Has anyone ever noticed that RoLo between an eabi-built binary and a standard binary doesn't work? 20.28.04 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-071-070-229-130.nc.res.rr.com) 20.28.36 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 20.28.53 Join ee__ [0] (~ee@net-93-145-40-47.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) 20.29.08 # iq: what do you mean? 20.29.09 Part ee__ 20.29.20 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@gate-20.spsu.edu) 20.30.08 # gevaerts, I'm reading this 'How to Write Plugin', You also need to add your plugin to the CATEGORIES textfile which is in the same directory as well (e.g.: "testing,apps" will have plugin "testing" show up under the applications category). 20.31.36 # iq: if you want the line "testing,apps" to work for your plugin, you have to name your plugin "testing". If you don't like that name, use "name_you_like,apps" 20.31.39 Join cfp [0] (~cfp@ip-247.net-81-220-136.rev.numericable.fr) 20.31.43 # anyone upgraded to Thunderbird 3 yet? 20.32.34 # sorry 20.33.07 # gevaerts, I think I didn't get the part where we name the plugin. It is not in helloworld.c 20.33.49 # iq: indeed it's not. the name for helloworld.c is helloworld 20.34.02 # A boring system, but it works :) 20.34.13 # gevaerts, oh okay - so it is the file name - thanks :) 20.37.38 # gevaerts: rolo from standard to eabi did work at least once for me 20.38.03 # and there is no reason why it shouldn't work, at least if it works with different binaries at all 20.38.04 # * gevaerts has the plasma plugin running in the audio buffer \☺/ 20.38.21 # you know the audio buffer can move around right? 20.38.25 # and you know about that cpucache_invalidate bug... 20.38.36 # JdGordon_: *the* audio buffer can't :) 20.39.08 # the handles can move around 20.39.25 # only if you use handles 20.39.29 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@m160436d0.tmodns.net) 20.39.39 # I'm not using advanced allocation systems yet, I just wanted to know if it would run if I load it outside the regular plugin buffer 20.39.46 # oh good lord.. what have you done!?! 20.39.47 # :) 20.40.11 # I changed some lines in plugin.c, plugins.make and plugin.lds. That's all! 20.40.18 # cool 20.40.30 # fft is going to be silly if I stop playback... 20.40.47 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24888): Kill some global variables 20.41.45 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.43.59 # hm 20.44.13 # Prefect abort at C0EDBABE (0) 20.45.18 # *prefetch 20.45.36 # is C0EDBABE something from rockbox? 20.45.49 # I can't find it. It must be though 20.46.41 # some plugins work, but most crash 20.47.22 # isnt the whole stack set to C0EDBABE so we know if it stackov's? 20.48.05 # It's set to 0xDEAFBEEF 20.48.17 # really? 20.48.38 # 0xC0EDBABE is some PP specific "nothing here" thingy 20.48.58 # ah, ok 20.49.05 # funman: posted a new patch, with a manual section (that does need a native speaker's love :s). I also added a note about the potential 'bug'. 20.49.25 # funman: could you please add the modification that you suggested about the hardcoded string buffer length? 20.50.09 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 20.50.23 # Could somebody have a look to the bug that I mentioned on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11056 ? 20.51.03 Part watto 20.51.14 # It is related to the way that _playback menu_ handles the playlist control file when it has not been created yet 20.52.23 # what do you expect playback to do if there is no resume info? 20.52.40 # New commit by 03bertrik (r24889): Partially revert svn r24888 that causes build failure on coldfire targets 20.53.00 Join FOAD_ [0] (~dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.53.19 # * gevaerts wonders if he should submit bug reports about plugin keymaps if he only tried using his weird builds 20.53.35 # that would be a no :) 20.54.02 Quit FOAD (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.54.02 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (~dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.54.08 # which plugins? 20.54.10 # I find it annoying that if I manage to find a plugin that actually works, I can't get out of it! 20.54.23 # pixelma: fire and demistify at least, on e200 20.55.22 # doesnt the menu/power button work? 20.55.34 # fire definitely uses PLA, not sure about demystify 20.55.51 # not for me anyway. I'll test later with a normal build 20.56.13 # do any buttons work? 20.56.51 # which reminds me of the "simplify PLA patch" kugel started and wanted to commit after the 3.5 release 20.57.09 # hm, not in those plugins 20.57.11 # JdGordon_: Nothing indeed 20.57.21 # then what's the problem? 20.57.24 # and I do think that erroring out this way is ok 20.57.39 # it's just that funman wanted to be sure before commiting my patch 20.57.39 # demystify was made PLA too 20.57.49 # hm, the plugins that have a menu are a bit boring. All menu entries are "Yes" 20.57.52 # maybe all of those have problems? 20.58.10 # gevaerts: sounds like you arn't quite there yet then :) 20.58.23 # those are all static globals 20.58.30 # apparently not :) 20.58.35 # menu items and button tables 20.59.12 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.59.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.59.47 # gevaerts: does e.g. clocks work? 20.59.51 Quit HBK (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.00.42 # no 21.00.57 # that one also has a weird looking screen 21.01.50 # could it really be a problem with PLA and your patch then? 21.02.03 # probably 21.02.44 # * TheSeven moans about a buggy panicf() 21.02.46 # * gevaerts finds a table with absolute addresses :( 21.03.21 # there's a stupid off-by-one error in there 21.04.18 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 21.07.19 # I was thinking of adding a line on HowtoWritePlugins wiki page but I don't have permission/access to do so. 21.07.41 # wiki name? 21.08.32 # New commit by 03tomers (r24890): FS#11049 - Brickmania: Make brick a two-dimensional array 21.08.57 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 21.09.28 Join archivator [0] (~archivato@stu0279.keble.ox.ac.uk) 21.09.34 # iq: done 21.09.50 # thanks TheSeven 21.14.23 Join AlexP [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.15.07 Join ecio1 [0] (~ecio@32.135.179.156) 21.17.47 # pixelma: have you tried the latest synced fm patch? I wonder if your button problem is fixed 21.19.07 Quit ecio (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.20.37 # ok, I think my approach for load-address independent plugins won't work 21.21.17 # It has issues as soon as you try exotic features like "const" 21.21.23 Join AsaelReiter [0] (~d44c6bf2@giant.haxx.se) 21.21.49 # what's the issue? 21.21.57 # or actually, it has issues as soon as you have compile-time initialised pointer tables 21.22.12 # hm, let's go for coff then? 21.22.24 # yes, probably 21.22.40 # coff? 21.23.33 # I don't think my simple .gop approach can be fixed to work in all cases, and if we go for a full relocator (which we will need), I think using an existing format sounds smart 21.23.35 # common object file format 21.23.48 # JdGordon_: where you live it might be better known as PE 21.24.07 # coff is yucky! 21.24.15 # not exactly, PE is COFF with an additional header 21.24.16 # * Torne srsly suggests someone look into elf2flt if you are doing that 21.24.50 # New commit by 03FlynDice (r24891): sd-as3525v2.c: Correct some #defines, add comments, attempt to lower sd frequency to 400 khz during init. ... 21.25.01 # TheSeven: true, it's more of a variant 21.25.28 # i suspect flt would serve our needs quite well and it's just a postprocessing step on a non-fully-linked .elf 21.26.01 # so it's possibly just a matter of jamming -r on LDFLAGS for plugins and changing the linker script to have less addresses 21.26.41 # is there any point useing this for codecs also? so you could eliminate memmoves when tracks dont use the same codec? 21.26.53 # quite possibly 21.26.58 # and then there should be no need to 64MB and 32MB builds? 21.27.03 # but making it handle IRAM could be awkward 21.27.29 # with the plugin just loading into pluginbuf I *thinK* that's probably easy 21.27.36 # based on not really having looked into it very much :) 21.28.19 # IRAM can't be shared of course, but surely that shouldn't make fixed-IRAM+dynamic-DRAM impossible? 21.28.31 # Oh, if you assume onluy one thing is using iram, then sure 21.28.41 # you link the iram section at absolute addresses in the link script exactly as we do now 21.28.49 # maybe. 21.28.54 # again, wild speculation 21.29.00 # uClinux doesn't have anything like that :) 21.30.04 # You could of course also do IRAM in a relocatable way. That would be even more fun, but I'm not sure if we can do that without a performance hit 21.30.13 # well you could, but not with flt, i'm pretty sure 21.30.33 # the format is too trivial to have arbitrary sections 21.33.42 # New commit by 03tomers (r24892): FS#10643 - Cowon D2: Chopper game control using hardware buttons ... 21.35.07 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 21.37.20 Quit AlexP (Quit: Please insert girder) 21.37.36 # http://www.beyondlogic.org/uClinux/bflt.htm <- describes the flat format, btw 21.37.44 Join AlexP [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.38.00 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.39.20 Quit tomers (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.40.44 Join tomers [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-84-109-85-100.red.bezeqint.net) 21.41.19 Join samosa [0] (~Miranda@94-194-210-10.zone8.bethere.co.uk) 21.41.51 # How do I get rid of a warning for an unused variable? I just have to read from the register and not use the value. Can I do void temp = ... ; ? 21.42.29 # Torne: that does indeed look reasonably simple 21.42.38 # FlynDice: (void)variable; is quite common 21.42.47 # thx 21.42.56 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 21.42.58 # gevaerts: the problem is i don't know if it's easily possible to have some addresses *actually* known 21.43.13 # e.g. iram and the like 21.43.17 # and maybe rb? i forget how that works 21.43.17 # :) 21.43.34 # Torne: IRAM shouldn't be a problem - those just don't get .reloc entries 21.43.35 # the linker script elf2flt wants to use maps everything to increasing address starting from 0 21.43.37 # rb works by Magic :) 21.43.53 # so if iram is there, then, er, asplode? 21.43.54 # maybe 21.44.11 # i'm gonna take a look at the source of elf2flt which is about all teh docs it has other than the above page ;) 21.44.16 # but it's dinenrtime now, so back in a bit 21.48.51 # I know I'm leaving yellow on the build table but I need to go now, I will attempt to fix it later tonight when I get in. 21.49.33 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 21.49.39 Join froggyman [0] (~sopgenort@pool-72-69-220-42.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.54.07 # anyone got a link to the sandisk response about the crap DAC in the clip? 21.54.16 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.54.29 # where they say its not a high end DAP so they dont care about it not being 44.1khz exactly or something? 21.56.53 # New commit by 03tomers (r24893): Rockblox: Rename Rotate Left|Right to Rotate CW|CCW 21.57.07 # JdGordon_: http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2009/09/24/sandisk-our-sound-fidelity-isn%E2%80%99t-perfect/ 21.57.24 # thanks 21.58.29 Quit Grahack (Quit: Tu m'as vu ?) 21.59.37 # New commit by 03tomers (r24894): Rockblox: For touchscreen targets, left/right goes to CCW/CW respectively, and ... 22.01.57 Quit cfp (Quit: Quitte) 22.02.08 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.03.24 Quit bmbl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.04.13 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4DACA.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.07.42 Quit HBK () 22.08.09 # JdGordon_: didn't notice there was an update 22.08.34 # a few days ago 22.08.39 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 22.08.43 # it shuoold still be in sync.. hopefully 22.09.26 # did you fix the warnings yet? 22.09.39 # no 22.09.53 # they are all just unused vars so nothing to worry about 22.11.45 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@rrcs-97-77-49-215.sw.biz.rr.com) 22.11.54 # why does the build table contain the clipv2/+ only from 24885? 22.12.17 # guess! 22.13.12 # are those players finally support rockbox? 22.13.45 # rockbox runs, but alot is missing still 22.15.02 # (I checked it yesterday and it did not work. what had been change? 22.15.42 # Being on the build table doesn't mean that a target is stable and usable 22.16.35 # well, It was compiled successfully before that is became into the table. 22.16.53 # New commit by 03tomers (r24895): Rockblox: Map touchscreen top-middle to rotate CW ... 22.17.06 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-213-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.17.12 # and it did not even run on my clipv2 (yesterday. should I check again?) 22.17.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#Port_Status 22.18.00 # AsaelReiter: instead of asking every day you could just read the website 22.18.48 # AsaelReiter: a target appearing on the build table means that it has been added to the build table. Nothing more, nothing less 22.19.11 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 22.19.25 # thanks. 22.19.31 Quit AsaelReiter (Quit: CGI:IRC) 22.20.16 Join AlexP [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 22.20.24 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 22.26.54 Join ew [0] (~d13cea05@giant.haxx.se) 22.29.57 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.31.38 # did smaf ever actually work in a target, not just in the sim? 22.31.39 Quit JdGordon_ (Quit: Miranda IM! 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