--- Log for 12.03.110 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 hours and 37 minutes ago 00.02.49 Quit Schmogel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.05.45 Part flyback 00.18.20 Quit TheSphinX^ (Quit: XChat) 00.22.52 # A question regarding the forums: Can normal users view threads in the trash if I feed them a link? 00.24.33 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.25.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.26.56 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 00.27.02 # soap: no 00.27.19 # ggrrr 00.27.51 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 00.28.05 # I ask because after two weeks I deleted that PSP GO thread from "new ports". Lord_Askula (or whatever his name is) has not viewed the thread since before I posted my intention to delete. 00.28.49 # I was going to PM him (?) a link to the deleted thread if he wanted further clarification as to my reasoning, but I guess I'll need to make it a wordy PM. 00.36.46 # hehe, I have working usb isochronous transfers on my e200 :) 00.40.44 Quit pamaury (Quit: Page closed) 00.44.41 Quit ender` (Quit: Hardware, n The part of the computer that you can kick.) 00.44.55 Quit Farthen (Disconnected by services) 00.45.17 Join Farthen_ [0] (~chatzilla@e179236167.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.45.19 Nick Farthen_ is now known as Farthen (~chatzilla@e179236167.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.45.45 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 00.47.04 Quit arbingordon (Quit: `) 00.48.12 Quit Farthen (Disconnected by services) 00.48.33 Join Farthen_ [0] (~chatzilla@e179236167.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.48.35 Nick Farthen_ is now known as Farthen (~chatzilla@e179236167.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.02.23 Join arbingordon [0] (~w@c-71-226-248-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 01.08.33 Join func [0] (~func@dsl-245-144-24.telkomadsl.co.za) 01.08.40 # help me 01.11.01 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 01.11.32 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.11.53 # help me 01.12.16 # func, it's hard to help you if you don't say what the problem is 01.12.19 Quit Tomis (Quit: Tomis) 01.12.22 # How do I insert my husbands penis into my vagina? 01.13.19 Mode "#rockbox +o Torne" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 01.13.26 Kick (#rockbox func :func) by Torne!torne@rockbox/developer/Torne 01.14.29 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.81.153) 01.19.35 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 01.20.27 Part toffe82 01.23.19 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 01.33.23 Quit DataGhost (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.34.30 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EDB55.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.35.35 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.37.26 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 01.43.41 Quit Adnyxo (Remote host closed the connection) 01.49.05 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.53.10 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87.196.152.172) 01.57.04 Join JDGordon [0] (~7bf38c1f@gateway/web/freenode/x-ydyrmfrymuylftyz) 02.05.42 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.07.54 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-154-2-252.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.11.30 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.16.53 Join Strife1989 [0] (~michael@adsl-154-2-252.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.20.21 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.21.02 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 02.25.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.25.47 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.28.18 Quit JDGordon (Quit: Page closed) 02.31.38 Quit hebz0rl (Remote host closed the connection) 02.39.17 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~michael@adsl-154-2-252.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.47.55 Join Strife1989 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.49.10 Quit Strife89 (Disconnected by services) 02.49.15 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.49.33 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-246-16.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 02.54.13 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 02.54.42 Quit Casainho (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306]) 02.59.55 Join Strife1989 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.00.24 Quit Strife89 (Disconnected by services) 03.00.30 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.05.30 Join krazykit` [0] (~kkit@70.236.69.200) 03.06.25 Join Strife1989 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.06.51 Quit Strife89 (Disconnected by services) 03.06.56 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.09.02 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.11.12 Quit Adnyxo (Quit: Leaving) 03.18.50 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 03.21.52 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.25.40 # is our GSOC app in? 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Putting code into IRAM has much less effect, i.e. do it only if *all* data is in iram already and there's still some iram left 08.04.25 Quit planetbeing (Quit: planetbeing) 08.04.30 # This is because (our) CFs have an instruction cache only 08.04.48 # amiconn: yes, that is why my last changes did not move code to IRAM on coldfire. 08.05.09 # But they move some data out of iram 08.05.59 # yes, but for data that is used very seldom. imho this is a good trade-off: faster for PP, un-measurebale slower for cf 08.06.36 # * Buschel wonders if somebody should simply re-measure on cf to stop this discussion ;) 08.07.07 # * amiconn would always re-measure affected targets *before* committing such changes 08.08.40 # I also think there's nothing that speaks against a split 08.09.48 # (keeping that data in iram on SoCs which profit from it) 08.10.56 # yes, that's of course possible 08.12.51 # maybe someone with a cf target can measure the codec performance of r25127 against r25126. afterwards we will know the real effect. can you, amiconn? 08.17.35 # Probably not today 08.20.43 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.22.51 # amiconn: this is the split you were talking about -> http://www.pastebin.org/110528 08.24.13 Quit MagusG (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.24.44 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-76-97-148-35.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 08.25.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.28.16 Part robbyoconnor ("Leaving") 08.32.38 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.34.26 # I will commit the split this evening. see you 08.34.27 Quit Buschel () 08.37.43 Quit arbingordon (Quit: `) 08.48.15 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.50.27 Quit amigan_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.50.33 Join amigan_ [0] (dcp1990@pool-96-233-148-187.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) 09.11.46 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host83-164-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.12.24 Join planetbeing [0] (~planetbei@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 09.13.40 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.15.19 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 09.18.08 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.21.03 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p5099d40e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.30.43 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.31.09 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 09.32.46 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.47.16 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 09.47.38 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.56.56 # gevaerts: ping 10.25.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.26.47 # New commit by 03zagor (r25128): Close socket before sleeping. 10.40.00 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@bb-87-81-252-83.ukonline.co.uk) 10.46.04 Join planetbeing_ [0] (~planetbei@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 10.46.05 Quit planetbeing (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.46.06 Nick planetbeing_ is now known as planetbeing (~planetbei@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 10.49.45 # New commit by 03zagor (r25129): Exit instead of retrying. 11.00.44 # Important: I need all build client admins to kill (restart) rbclient.pl. 11.05.46 # Can't you kill them remotely? (and hope they return) 11.08.12 # no. they've gotten stuck on a bug that makes them not read from the socket anymore. or rather, not read _new data_ from the socket. 11.12.25 # pamaury: pong 11.16.56 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87-196-152-172.net.novis.pt) 11.18.29 # * rasher wishes to thank b0hoon for the care in updating all the langs when adding the Packard Bell Vibe 500 to the langfiles 11.23.08 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 11.26.47 Quit polobricolo (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.27.39 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.28.41 Join polobricolo [0] (~polobrico@AGrenoble-257-1-36-116.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.34.49 # gevaerts: Yesterday I managed to make isochronous transfers works on my e200 (the usb arc drivers). Do you prefer that I commit the code now even it's not completely tested (but does not interfere with non-iso transfers) or do you prefer to review it/wait to more tests ? 11.36.40 # pamaury: is it guarded by #ifdefs, or if not is that easy to do? 11.37.01 # In general I'd say commit though 11.37.30 # it's not gaurded by #ifdef but I changed really really few places and it's doesn't change anything for non-iso code 11.38.16 # If you trust it to not break anything, go ahead! 11.38.22 # Perhaps I should add a USB_HAS_ISOCHRONOUS_TRANSFERS also, no ? (just like interrupt) 11.39.22 # I don't to which devices the usb-arc extend so where should I put such a define, if it were to define ? 11.39.57 # CONFIG_USBOTG == USBOTG_ARC 11.40.13 # see firmware/export/config.h 11.40.15 # ok 11.40.31 # I'll commit this in a few minute if everything is ok 11.42.03 Join arbingordon [0] (~w@c-71-226-248-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 11.43.09 # There are still some things to tweak. I'm not a usb isochronous expert so I don't fully understand this nb_iso_packets/frames thing. 11.43.50 # You'll have to become one then :) 11.44.04 # At least I've never really touched isochronous either 11.45.18 # Hum, is 512-bytes the maximum bulk transfers packet size for high-speed or is this rockbox specific ? 11.45.30 # Because for iso I think it's 1024 (or 1023 for full speed) 11.45.53 # it's the maximum, yes. Isochronous goes higher than bulk 11.45.54 # Hum, spec says so 11.46.58 # This makes the max_packet_size parameter of get_config_descriptor a bit problematic 11.48.10 # Perhaps there should functions for this ? like usb_core_get_max_transfer_size(int xfer_type) 11.48.14 # *should be 11.49.37 # What should I do ? If I set the packet size of the iso endpoint to 1024 but the drivers use 512, there'll be a mismatch between arc controller and endpoint desc. That's not cool :( 11.49.50 # Not sure it's problematic though 11.50.14 # Can we use 512 everywhere for now until we piuck the right approach? 11.51.12 # That's *plenty* for a single 44.1kHz stereo audio channel 11.51.27 # yes, I'll use 512 and put a fixme 11.51.31 # Will fix the rest later 11.51.34 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@e179239152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.55.34 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 11.56.17 Quit chrisb (Remote host closed the connection) 11.57.07 Quit shaggy-h (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.57.24 Join wodz [0] (~c21d9c6b@giant.haxx.se) 11.59.36 # New commit by 03pamaury (r25130): Add experimental support for isochronous transfers in the usb ARC driver. There are several details to tweaks however. 12.01.53 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 12.03.35 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitr88@BSN-182-6-204.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.03.43 # gevaerts: I also implemented an api for usb strings, are you interested or do you prefer to wait for some code that uses it ? 12.04.24 # what is needed to add new target in sim? 12.05.16 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.06.03 # pamaury: not sure. I guess it's easier to review this sort of thing if there are actual users 12.06.03 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.06.07 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.07.04 # I know one user but he's kind of very similar to me :) 12.08.08 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.08.09 # * gevaerts wonders if "Use your own best judgement" is good enough as an answer :) 12.08.21 # wodz: add in what way? 12.08.31 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitr88@BSN-182-30-82.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.08.50 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@92.117.63.20) 12.08.53 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Changing host) 12.08.53 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 12.11.11 # geavaerts: I added new port (target) in my tree. I am able to build some experimental bootloader. Now I poke around to build successfuly normal build (with some empty stub functions for now) and I am wondering what is needed for sim 12.11.47 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.12.14 # wodz: I don't know the details, but I would expect that to mostly work out of the box 12.12.36 # hmm I will try... 12.14.09 # can someone help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/HLvybZrk 12.14.24 # I have mpiohd200.h not hd200.h 12.14.36 # I used app.lds from iriver port 12.15.37 # yay, 15 minute build round... 12.15.49 # wodz: I'd suspect a wrong include in config.h 12.15.53 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.54) 12.16.41 # Zagor: on the positive side, I don't think we've hit 85% efficiency very often yet :) 12.16.48 # hehe 12.16.55 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@host-69-59-126-212.nctv.com) 12.16.59 # I have #include "config/mpiohd200.h" in config.h 12.17.48 # is this a fully clean build directory? Maybe an old make.dep file? 12.17.58 Join shaggy-h [0] (~kiwi@78-86-164-31.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 12.18.17 # I did rm -rf * in build directory 12.19.12 # * gevaerts doesn't know then. Maybe something in the build system? 12.21.25 # I greped make.dep for hd200.h and I always have mpiohd200.h 12.22.10 # wodz: is there not a single occurence of hd200.h in make.dep? 12.25.31 # nop 12.25.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.26.08 # amiconn, saratoga, ender`: please kill/restart your rbclient.pl processes 12.26.59 # wodz: well, something thinks you have it. I assume you've tried "make clean" already? 12.27.23 # yeh 12.27.59 # "find . -name hd200.h" 12.28.44 # find . -name hd200.h gives no hit 12.28.48 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Remote host closed the connection) 12.29.08 # grep -Rl hd200.h * 12.30.45 Join TopyMobile [0] (~topy@f049069123.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.30.52 Quit TopyMobile (Remote host closed the connection) 12.32.00 # Zagor: done. what happened? 12.33.46 # I'm not sure. Somehow the sockets aren't reset properly, so clients see the same "_HELLO error duplicate name!" all the time. 12.34.11 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.34.12 # New commit by 03uchida (r25131): libpcm: output depth corrects for the sign 1bit. linear pcm corrects bits shift. 12.34.41 # Zagor: http://pastebin.com/P2w7zT9L 12.35.13 # but this also returns files with mpiohd200.h 12.35.24 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@gssn-5f75788e.pool.mediaWays.net) 12.35.52 # wodz: try "grep -Rlw hd200 *" 12.36.09 # -w is for "whole word only", i.e. not mpiohd200 12.40.52 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.16) 12.41.47 # Zagor: I verified all hits from -Rlw and there are no hd200.h anywhere 12.44.10 # that's just nuts. can you make clean and tar up the tree for me to look at? 12.46.24 Quit planetbeing (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.46.24 Join planetbeing_ [0] (~planetbei@32.159.235.40) 12.46.24 Nick planetbeing_ is now known as planetbeing (~planetbei@32.159.235.40) 12.46.41 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 12.49.03 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 12.49.35 # ha! I found it! in tools/configure modelname = "hd200" has to be changed to modelname = "mpiohd200" 12.50.22 # but this makes me wondering how for example vibe500 compiles 12.52.01 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.52.47 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.02.28 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 13.02.56 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 13.03.41 # Hello, has there been any work done on making rockbox an app yet? 13.05.48 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@e179239152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.06.02 Join perfectdrug_ [0] (~marko@p5B0EDBB1.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.09.46 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.10.17 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.10.55 Quit Tomis (Quit: Tomis) 13.11.57 # Zagor: done 13.12.11 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.12.36 # excellent 13.18.52 # notlistening: the uisimulator is basically the app 13.19.25 # you "just" need to adapt and optimize for specific targets 13.19.33 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 13.23.33 # Zagor: Isn't the main task of rockbox-as-an-app to create target builds in their own right that use the host OS/UI framework instead of Rockbox's? i.e. _not_ a simulator, but a new variety of "normal" target. 13.24.19 # I'd say it's a sliding scale. Adapting the code to a preemtive threading model, for example, would be a pretty big and tedious task. 13.25.25 # but yes, I wouldn't want the native apps to simply use sdl 13.27.25 # but the other end of the scale isn't terribly attractive either. such as for example an iphone UI written from scratch with just the rockbox "backend" playlist and codec 13.27.32 # even that wouldn't be possible in some cases ... like on android where you'd need to expose the rockbox core as a jni api and the write the ui in java 13.27.36 # is there a way to not compile plugins? 13.27.42 # s/api/lib 13.28.00 # such a project wouldn't bring the Rockbox project forward much 13.28.57 # wodz: "make bin" (see "make help" for the various options available) 13.29.12 # thx 13.30.09 # dionoea: you don't actually have to write the UI in java. you only need to access the java api via java 13.30.53 # so what is the line plugins="yes" in conifgure for? 13.30.56 # Doesn't android already have its own media-playing framework? 13.31.20 # wodz: To disable plugins for that target. It's normally used in the early stages of a port. 13.31.24 # linuxstb: yes. but it only supports a fraction of the formats we do. 13.31.47 # and I haven't found any player app with anywhere near decent playlist management 13.32.01 # Can a "user" extend those codecs? i.e. by installing more? 13.32.09 # I don't know 13.32.11 Quit perfectdrug_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.32.11 # Zagor: yeah, that would be possible. 13.32.14 # linuxstb: no, you can't 13.32.27 # linuxstb: so something is broken. I have plugins="no" and files are compiled anyway 13.32.43 # and you can't really access the dsp to just get the decoded buffer and process it on your own afterwards 13.32.46 # wodz: Maybe try just plugins="" 13.33.01 # * dionoea 's porting vlc to android and would love to have more low level apis available 13.33.13 # you can't even output audio in native c 13.33.15 # wodz: you need to run "make reconf" after changing configure 13.33.21 # (at least not with the public apis) 13.33.55 # Zagor: I am aware of this 13.35.04 # dionoea: You mean if you use the built-in codecs, you can't post-process the decoded audio? 13.35.55 # So there is not a active movement towards appifying rockbox then ;( 13.36.02 # well i haven't investigated the audio side much yet, but at least on the video side it doesn't look straightforward (it might be possible by faking a display class) 13.36.34 # basically they lack a "raw data" = decode( "encoded data" ) functionality 13.36.50 # notlistening: Maybe a SoC 2010 student will attempt it (for the 2nd time, and assuming Google accept us)... 13.37.06 # notlistening: there's never an active movement towards anything until someone steps up and starts working on it 13.37.47 # what you can do with the java api is pass your data to a media player object. But you can't access the decoded data easily/at all. 13.38.27 # and they don't provide any C api to access the dsp. (they only provide libc, a subset of libc++, libz, libm and opengl es 2.0 on the native C side) 13.38.38 # dionoea: so I guess you (vlc) do all decoding yourself? 13.39.05 # yeah, at least for a start. The CPU is often powerfull enough to do the decoding. 13.39.29 # ffmpeg has quite a few NEON optimisations these days (and we have some in critical vlc chroma conversion modules too) 13.40.47 # once I have something decent runing on the CPU i'll see if we can somehow use the DSP ... but I'm not too confident. 13.41.00 # dionoea: are you using opengl es for the video output? 13.41.42 Quit Casainho (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.59.36 Join Tomis [0] (~Tomis@70.134.81.153) 14.06.48 Quit nosa- (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.12.40 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.22.33 Quit wodz (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.24.29 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 14.25.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.29.46 # Zagor: yeah, that's the plan. I haven't gotten to the point of writting the video output yet. (The first output will just use java) 14.30.06 # I started the port a week ago and should have a working poc this weekend 14.32.24 Join moos_ [0] (moos@85-171-102-158.rev.numericable.fr) 14.34.30 Quit moos (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.34.34 Nick moos_ is now known as moos (moos@85-171-102-158.rev.numericable.fr) 14.34.49 Quit moos (Changing host) 14.34.49 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 14.37.45 Join PaulK4 [0] (~paulk@10-98.252-81.static-ip.oleane.fr) 14.39.23 Quit moos (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]) 14.39.43 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 14.41.45 Quit PaulK4 (Quit: Java user signed off) 14.50.21 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.54) 14.52.25 Join OnlyByGrace [0] (~4f37d063@gateway/web/freenode/x-judvtssqxqjpucmo) 14.56.53 Quit OnlyByGrace (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.07.22 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.07.29 Quit Farthen (Quit: I'm not here right now.) 15.08.01 Join Farthen [0] (~chatzilla@e179239152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.12.59 Quit Marctraider () 15.13.18 # i would like to request wiki editing permissions as i want to update the LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling for arm-eabi 15.14.02 # Farthen: sure, what's your wiki username? 15.14.16 # FinnWilke 15.15.00 # done 15.16.19 # Zagor: thanks 15.17.58 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@62.87.184.82) 15.19.23 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 15.33.12 Quit moos (Remote host closed the connection) 15.35.55 Join evinick_B [0] (~0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.59.26 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE21E2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.08.08 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 16.13.56 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EDBB1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.16.14 Quit Adnyxo (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.16.38 # Farthen: still around? I also thought about updating LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling but you did a better job than i have could done, but it still says "There's about 50 MB to download" last time i checked the rockbox directory was 147MB in size, is it compressed while downloading or does it pull 147MB? 16.17.34 # perfectdrug: Is that the size of an svn checkout? If so, then that stores two copies of everything (but I would hope svn didn't download everything twice). 16.17.59 # perfectdrug: i did quite nothing. but i'm not done yet. i'm still getting build errors and continue adding packages (I'm making a new toolchain on a fresh install) 16.18.23 # that was the size after setting up svn and downloading the sources IIRC 16.19.31 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 16.19.39 # whoo. i'm getting 350M after checkout and starting to build the toolchain 16.21.07 # i guess this was after building the toolchain 16.21.42 # so maybe wrong alarm 16.21.47 # the toolchain gets built in /tmp 16.22.59 # a new checkout is 345 mb big 16.24.55 # not that big for me though, I am not really comfortable with this things but 50MB seemed odd maybe we can leave this info out as the source grows bigger all the time 16.25.41 # yep. until someone builds a plugin that automatically updates this information :-P 16.25.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.26.40 # perfectdrug: svn data is compressed, yes 16.29.20 # It's possibly worth saying something like "you should expect to use about 500MB-1GB of disk space when working with the Rockbox source code." 16.29.33 # (leaving space for some builds and maybe some sim builds...) 16.29.49 # well, the toolchain also takes pretty much space 16.30.15 # I'll leave you to figure out the numbers... 16.30.58 # I have 4 toolchains (arm, arm-eabi, sh and coldfire) on this machine, and they take up about 145MB 16.31.54 # * linuxstb wonders why the eabi toolchain is less than half the size of the old ARM toolchain - do we not need all those multilibs any more? 16.32.38 # linuxstb: not really 16.32.50 # eabi means there's only one FP calling convention, only one Thumb calling convention, etc 16.32.53 # s/do we/does it/ 16.33.04 # the linker fixes up for interworking where required, etc 16.35.15 Quit evinick_B (Quit: Page closed) 16.35.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.36.28 # Torne: I always thought multilib was for generating code for the several arm versions 16.36.39 # yes, it is also for that 16.36.47 # my eabi toolchain is bigger than old arm one 16.36.54 # there are several axes that multilib can be based on 16.36.59 # what target it's compiled for is just one 16.37.09 # eabi mostly eliminates the need to care about all the *othre* factors 16.38.00 # a fresh svn checkout took 43,5 MB bandwidth so 50MB as stated is fine 16.39.23 # who pays for bandwidth anyway? 16.39.59 # are the -dev packages of gmp / mpfr really needed? 16.40.39 # i think so, i also got that error while building the toolchains on a fresh install 16.40.44 # i tried to build arm-eabi and it failed for me 16.40.57 # gcc states this tools are only used for the build process of gcc, and not for compilation with gcc later 16.41.10 # and that thing is really confusing as the ubuntu package version doesn't have anything to do with the version from the error message 16.41.15 # I'm thinking only the non-dev ones are needed 16.41.31 # there are no "non-dev" packages 16.41.44 # those are pure dev packages 16.41.50 Join evilnick_B [0] (~0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.42.31 # so i better state them there so that the people don't have the same problems when installing their toolchain 16.42.54 # I see non-dev packages for libgmp3 and libmpfr1 16.43.40 # kugel: typically the -dev package will depend on the non-dev 16.43.59 # yea, but not on this ubuntu apparently 16.44.56 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.6) 16.45.20 Part b0hoon ("GTG Bye.") 16.46.03 # Farthen: Er, gcc does indeed need libgmp and libmpfr at runtime.. 16.46.12 # do an ldd on cc1plus 16.46.15 # it links to them ;) 16.46.30 # if you are doing ldd on "gcc" then you are looking in the wrong place, that's just the frontend driver 16.47.02 # you need the -dev packages during building and the non-dev packages at runtime 16.47.07 # so both of you are wrong ;) 16.47.25 # Torne: thanks for clearing this up ;-) 16.47.55 # i just tell them to install the -dev packages they can't harm anyway 16.48.16 # Torne: I just told what the gcc docs told me 16.48.18 # well they do need the -dev packages to run rockboxdev.sh 16.48.28 # kugel: really? that's odd 16.48.36 # * Torne votes for ldd being more authoritative than the docs, tho 16.48.47 # * Farthen doesn't RTFM 16.49.19 # maybe I got it wrong 16.58.32 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@95.246.182.111) 17.01.48 Mode "#rockbox -o Torne" by Torne (torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 17.07.14 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.08.51 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-206-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.10.48 # Can we change the USB HID mode text please? :) I mentioned this before :) 17.11.31 Join DataGhost [0] (~dataghost@192-18-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl) 17.11.31 Quit DataGhost (Changing host) 17.11.32 Join DataGhost [0] (~dataghost@unaffiliated/dataghost) 17.12.18 Part LinusN 17.13.03 Quit guymann (Quit: Hmm) 17.13.42 Quit perfectdrug (Quit: perfectdrug) 17.14.03 # Seriously 17.16.10 # to? 17.16.20 # Anything else! 17.16.27 # What does it say now? 17.16.51 # It just says "Multimedia mode" 17.16.59 # That's mad ;) 17.17.01 # (iiuc) 17.17.07 # It needs to say "Input device mode: Multimedia" 17.17.08 # or something 17.17.09 # Which means users think the DAP is in Multimedia mode 17.17.17 # To make it clear that it's *nothing to do with* mass storage 17.17.18 # Whatever that might mean 17.17.26 # It's not "USB keyboard mode" ? 17.17.28 # rasher: Well they probably think it means MTP, if they have any clue at all 17.17.37 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.17.37 # Torne: Even worse 17.17.40 # the user i just replied to on the forum probably does 17.17.49 # they were assuming they could not drag and drop files while it was in multimedia mode 17.17.56 # which matches up with user expectations from MTP 17.18.13 # Anyway, I dunno what it should say 17.18.20 # But it needs to say something else :) 17.18.32 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 17.18.34 # * linuxstb repeats his "USB keyboard mode" suggestion 17.18.50 # linuxstb: not all the modes are keyboard emulation 17.18.55 # USB HID does mouse emulation too 17.19.51 # * linuxstb should probably update his devices to a non-stoneage version of Rockbox... 17.20.20 # you can cycle through different HID modes 17.20.40 # Why do we need so many HID modes? Just because we can? 17.20.51 # Well, they're vaguely useful 17.21.02 # multimedia gives you the handy buttons to contrl desktop music player 17.21.16 # which is likely to be interesting if you are also using the dap to store the music your pc is playing. 17.21.25 # the presentation mode gives you a free presentation remote :0 17.21.25 # etc 17.21.35 # linuxstb: there are a lot less buttons on your DAP than there are on your keyboard, especially if it is a multimedia keyboard 17.21.49 # + mouse movement can be done too 17.22.27 # USB keyboard mode isn't terrible, i guess 17.22.30 # how about "usb interface"? 17.22.43 # it might be slightly confusing to the tiny number of people who use HID 17.22.44 # "interface" is quite vague 17.22.53 # interface is way too vague 17.23.14 # "usb remote control"? 17.23.28 # "remote control mode" i quite like 17.23.36 # hm 17.23.50 # I dunno if *any* of these really make it any more clear that it is doing mass storage *as well* though 17.23.56 # most people are not aware of HID at all 17.24.16 # and if they are they only discovered it by accident because they touched the wheel while music was playing and deafened themselves :) 17.24.49 # Clearly what we need is a "Tip of the day" when booting Rockbox 17.25.01 # hehe 17.25.07 # well, i don't care if people fail to discover HID :) 17.25.12 # it's in the manual, as we often say 17.25.14 # So we have a setting "USB keypad mode", with values "Multimedia mode", "Presentation mode", "Browser mode" and "Mouse mode" ? And the settings value is displayed on-screen whilst in that USB mode? 17.25.21 # i think remote control is the right name for it because it does exactly that: remote control the computer 17.25.40 # linuxstb: I believe so 17.25.50 # Torne: just an addition to your forum post - if the device is in HID mode it also doesn't mount on *some* OSs (e.g. MacOS 10.4) which is why the option to turn it off was added 17.25.50 # linuxstb: I don't think it's an actual setting 17.25.52 Quit Adnyxo (Quit: Leaving) 17.26.04 # linuxstb: well not a visible one 17.26.08 # Could we just remove "mode" from the setting value strings, and then display "USB keypad mode: Presentation" ? 17.26.12 # Yes 17.26.15 # Torne: It's in settings_list.c 17.26.21 # Yah, ok 17.26.33 # it's just not in the menu 17.26.38 # you have to set it by cycling through while connected 17.26.53 # which is a bit weird actually because it means you have to use a button to mean "cycle mode"... 17.26.56 # but that's a different issue ;) 17.27.04 # (and one i don't *really* care about..) 17.27.10 # Is it then saved in the config.cfg? 17.27.25 # i assume so 17.27.29 # i've not really used it 17.27.42 # i fiddled for like five minutes when it was implemented and went "oh cool" 17.27.47 # and then haven't had a use for it since :) 17.27.51 Quit Schmogel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.27.59 # * linuxstb hasn't even done that... 17.28.54 # Hm 17.29.02 # What about just "Keypad: Multimedia mode" ? 17.29.09 # forget "USB" altogether 17.29.21 # ..this is one of those nightmare user interface things 17.29.22 # or "keybad mode: multimedia"? 17.29.27 # I sometimes use my c200 to control the music player on my laptop because the latter has no multimedia buttons and it's nice if the program can stay in the background 17.29.38 # none of us have any particular reason to care what it says, because we know what it *means* :) 17.29.56 # Torne: and how would you understand the USB HID option in the menu then? 17.29.59 # kugel: well, whichever, but if the settings strings include the "mode" part it's easier :) 17.30.17 # pixelma: how do people understand it now? 17.30.22 # (hint: they don't) :) 17.30.30 # Torne: why 17.30.39 # ? 17.30.49 # kugel: well i guess it doesn't matter 17.31.20 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 17.31.24 # I wonder if it really needs a seperate setting or if it could just be one more of the modes (states) you can cycle through 17.31.43 # (HID off I mean) 17.31.58 # pixelma: you can't start/stop doing HID while connected 17.32.01 # at least i don't think so 17.32.10 # you can't change what USB interfaces you have without interrupting the connection 17.32.21 # the HID interface is just a HID interface 17.32.26 # we just change what symbols we emit 17.32.43 # ok, a pity 17.32.47 # i guess there is a different option.. 17.32.53 # but we could sure be in hid mode but emit nothing? 17.32.53 # we could default HID to off :) 17.33.12 # kugel: Yah, but that won't work around the problems that cause you to need to disable HID to get mass storage to work 17.33.16 # on some players/OSes 17.33.33 # right 17.34.13 # I even think it's important to default to HID off 17.34.37 # yeah, I was gonna say. 17.34.47 # If we defaulted to it being disabled, then both those problems would probably go away :) 17.34.48 # USB data connection is something everyone expects to work, HID is a plus 17.35.00 # users wouldn't see the mode text unless they'd enabled it.. 17.35.11 # and it would mount for everybody ;) 17.35.20 # we might still want to change the text, though 17.35.34 # agreed 17.36.29 # * Torne goes to look for the actual code in question so he can just change the damn thing :) 17.38.11 # didn't we default to hid on to get rid of the dummy driver needed for windows? 17.38.22 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.38.25 # it still does that if you disbale hid 17.38.28 # doesn't it? 17.38.42 # i thought it only has the dummy device if you compile HID out entirely 17.38.45 # i could be wrong. 17.38.46 # I don't know 17.39.17 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.39.32 # would means "does it" here? 17.39.44 # s/would/what 17.42.26 # I mean I could answer the question because I have a Windows PC around if I knew what I should look for... 17.43.11 # ok, the lang strings include the "mode" part 17.43.33 # so it's easier to change it to something like "keypad: multimedia mode" 17.43.45 # so what do we want? keypad? remote control? usb input? 17.45.41 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.48.51 # also bugger, this means it'll have to be sprintf'ed 17.50.26 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.50.47 # Torne: just name it remote control if nobody cares anymore :-) 17.51.03 # Torne: keyboard_mode_get_name() can just return the right-hand side of the ":" (as it does now). And then snprintf in usb_screens_draw() 17.51.39 # linuxstb: yeah, that's what i'm doing 17.51.48 # but then you have to pick how big the buffer should be :) 17.52.44 # thinking about how I would translate it, I'd think "keypad mode: multimedia" is slightly easier but it doesn't matter much 17.53.10 # pixelma: the point is that "multimedia mode" is already translated 17.53.17 # because that's what hte lang strings are at the moment 17.53.25 # so this way adds just one more lang string 17.53.28 # why is that a problem? 17.53.34 # well it's not a *problem* 17.54.34 # Why do you need to add a lang string? 17.54.52 # for the bit before the colon? 17.55.03 # We already have "USB keypad mode" 17.55.14 # ..we do? 17.55.18 # (that's why I suggested using it...) 17.55.21 # Ah 17.55.36 # It's used in settings_list.c 17.55.37 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.55.54 # I prefer better understandability over ease of updating the lang strings - besides that this combining possibly doesn't work in every language or leads to worse expressions 17.56.18 # Well, do we just want to change the English text for the existing lang strings, then? 17.56.21 # and leave the code alone entirely? 17.56.30 # pixelma: You don't like "USB keypad mode: Multimedia" ? 17.56.32 # and then? 17.57.06 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 17.57.22 # Hm, that would look stupid if anyone subsequently used that in a settings menu thouhg 17.57.32 # linuxstb: I was referring to Torne's "keypad: multimedia mode" 17.57.58 # Torne: What would? 17.58.14 # linuxstb: changing the lang strings that exist to say "USB keypad mode: Multimedia" or similar 17.58.19 # i.e. not touching the code 17.58.21 # * pixelma still wonders what Windows "does" 17.59.15 # Torne: My suggestion is to remove "mode" from the values of the setting, and change the code to display "Setting name: Setting value" - i.e. "USB keypad mode: Multimedia" 17.59.22 # Right 17.59.30 # I'm gonna do that then, since it makes sense :) 17.59.39 # Which I think would also be fine as a real setting menu. 17.59.42 # yes 18.00.03 # is it just str(LANG_USB_KEYPAD_MODE) to get the string? 18.00.30 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@87-196-152-172.net.novis.pt) 18.01.37 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.01.42 # that would also work nicely for German I think. The only small drawback I see is that the string gets a bit longer (although moderately) and might need to scroll on small displays or with big fonts (thinking of the c200 or Clip) 18.01.47 # grep tells me that some places use ID2P(LANG_) and others use str(LANG_) so I don't understand... 18.01.56 # pixelma: it's a scrolling line anyway 18.02.10 # linuxstb: yeah me either 18.02.36 # Ah right, ID2P is a special thing for settings 18.02.44 # Splitting it on two lines would save the sprintf... 18.03.15 # yeah, but it probably doesn't need to currently in most cases. Scrolling text is harder to read and it at least takes a little longer 18.03.17 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 18.03.25 # the viewport is only 1 line high though ;) 18.03.39 # How helpful ;) 18.03.41 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.04.05 # snprintf will do, i just have to guess a buffer size :) 18.04.33 # * linuxstb wonders why "[USB mode]" is a hard-coded string in usb_screen.c 18.04.43 # well, not sure how a 2 line high viewport will look (or the rest of the display shows the USB bitmap 18.05.13 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.06.07 # i don't understand the viewport setup stuff particularly ;) 18.06.38 # changing the viewport height seems harder than snprintf :) 18.06.51 # You mean all those comments in the code don't help you? ;) 18.07.50 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 18.08.37 # heh 18.12.36 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4A054.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.14.08 Join dantje [0] (~dvg@HSI-KBW-095-208-155-207.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 18.14.16 # http://whitefang.wolfpuppy.org.uk/temp/usb_hid_mode_text.diff <- anyone want to comment? 18.14.20 # or yaknow actually test it on a player 18.14.23 # (it compiles) 18.17.28 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 18.18.09 # What gets displayed in UMS-only mode? Or is there no such thing? 18.18.09 # i'll try it myself when i get home if not :) 18.18.15 # it doesn't show anything 18.18.50 # The patch looks fine to me. I'm assuming it's OK to just change lang strings like that, and then the translators will get flagged. 18.19.14 # yeah should be 18.19.36 # that's why the lang files have in them 18.19.47 # so you can tell when they were bsaed on an older version of english.lang 18.20.06 # i'm arbitrarily assuming that 64 bytes is enough 18.20.12 # which is double what it takes in english 18.20.21 # In the worst case, the string will just get truncated... 18.20.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-170.mcn.bellsouth.net) 18.21.23 # indeed 18.21.31 # i guess i could check, sort of. 18.21.38 # * Torne picks a language that uses high unicode :) 18.21.51 # waaaaah 18.22.12 # * pamaury reach 7MiB/s data rate with isochronous transfers on a e200 18.22.17 # did you know that not all nand chips even *support* parallel programming on different banks? 18.24.29 Quit pamaury (Quit: Quitte) 18.25.52 # Torne: well, other languages easily double the size of english strings 18.26.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.26.03 # kugel: yeah, i dunno 18.26.17 # particularly those involving unicode 18.26.43 # isn't it on the stack anyway? why not pick a reasonably huge buffer? 18.26.49 # yeah, ok 18.27.17 # if course you could strlen the strings to get the appropriate buffer, then dynamically alloc 18.27.46 Join darkham [0] (~darkham@95.246.182.111) 18.27.53 # no :) 18.30.06 # what is isochronous transfers btw? 18.30.32 # * linuxstb wonders if a lcd_puts_scroll_f() type function (incorporating sprintf) would be useful - lcd_puts_scroll() copies the text to a local buffer anyway... 18.31.09 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.31.56 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3D8A6.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.32.26 # New commit by 03torne (r25132): Change USB HID mode string from just "Multimedia Mode" (or similar) to say "USB keypad mode: Multimedia" (or similar). ... 18.32.45 # Torne: That's the spirit - write, commit, then test... ;) 18.33.02 # It compiles 18.33.08 # and I can't imagine how it could be *wrong* :) 18.33.16 Quit darkham (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.33.28 # You compiled before committing? Amateur! 18.38.01 # linuxstb: probably, lcd_putsf() has proven to be useful too 18.39.11 # aaaand I got a red :) 18.39.16 # but it looks like the build client is broken 18.39.20 # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmingw32 18.43.34 Quit Casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 18.53.09 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 18.53.19 Quit gibbon_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.55.24 Quit DataGhost (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.01.07 # hmm.. bluebrother: I could see an effect on filesize when speeding the TTS setting in rbutil now and I could also hear it when hitting "Test TTS" but the voice file doesn't work on my Ondio, although I got it small enough now (it's currently even smaller than the working older voice file I kept around) 19.01.45 # that's one of the boxes where talk file creation works 19.02.13 # (for Archos - it's on a 10.4 PPC) 19.02.17 Join pamaury [0] (~c2c7a50a@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.04.08 # mind you, there's also a similar difference for the speex files - a voice file doesn't work at all, while talk files "work" but aren't recognisable 19.09.19 # bluebrother: about the intermediate files - I have a list of qt_temp.* files without extension (two look like they could be a complete voice wav, judged by file size and some qt_temp.*.wav which are all zero byte 19.12.00 # there are 3 of the big ones, these are possibly from my different tries to get the voice file smaller, the timestamps suggest 19.12.59 Join m3dlg [0] (~m3dlg@212.183.140.21) 19.20.46 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 19.20.46 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 19.20.46 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.24.51 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.32.55 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.35.06 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@my.fastsh.it) 19.36.03 # New commit by 03Buschel (r25133): Restore musepack's IRAM configuration to pre r25127 for non PP5022/24. 19.38.00 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.38.04 Quit m3dlg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.39.05 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.41.26 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.43.36 # got the same build erros as Torne: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmingw32" 19.44.20 Quit chaos (Remote host closed the connection) 19.44.51 # Buschel: it appears amiconn's build client is messed up 19.45.53 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4A054.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.47.15 # New commit by 03Buschel (r25134): Make atrac3 streams in wav containers work again (error was introduced with r24782). Add additional info to atrac3 debug information. 19.50.49 Quit dmb (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 19.51.10 Join dmb [0] (~dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 19.52.57 Join chaos [0] (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 20.00.01 # amiconn's build client seems to work again 20.01.21 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE21E2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.01.45 Join dmb_ [0] (~Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 20.05.19 Join anti[v4] [0] (~Skim@skim.static.corbina.ru) 20.06.00 # hi there 20.06.20 # rbutill from svn fails to build 20.06.41 # it want to create already existing dir, and then fail. 20.07.49 # Buschel: maybe my ping caused him to fix it :) 20.09.06 # are there any current rockbox targets that detect a dock connection before enabling line out? 20.10.36 # bluebrother: an Archos voice file created on an Intel 10.6 Mac works 20.10.59 # what could I test or check? 20.11.33 # hey! does any rbutil devs sitting here? 20.13.53 # anti[v4]: I guess that will depend on what you want ;) 20.14.19 # i want to build it from svn ;) 20.14.23 # Have you successfully compiled it before? 20.14.26 # but it fails 20.14.29 # no 20.14.42 # i try to compile it 1st time 20.15.08 # Can you post the output of "make" to http://pastebin.com ? 20.15.59 # antixpuct ~skim # wgetpaste /var/log/portage/app-misc:rbutil-9999:20100312-185419.log :) 20.15.59 # Your paste can be seen here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/188908/ 20.16.01 # ^_^ 20.17.00 # Did you just checkout the rbutil directory? You need other parts of the Rockbox source as well nowadays. 20.17.45 # i don't checkout dir ;) i'm using gentoo ebuild from wiki... 20.18.06 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p4FE8F6EA.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.18.13 # The ebuild was contributed by someone else and isn't maintained. Looks like that's broken. 20.18.35 # You could try and fix it, or just follow the manual compilation instructions - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtilityDevelopment 20.19.04 # I don't think any regular rockbox dev uses gentoo. 20.19.25 # :( 20.22.30 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 20.22.51 Join AlexP [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 20.23.59 # linuxstb, i don't think, that it is ebuild trouble. it just did "./configure&&make&&make install" at all; 20.24.31 # is current svn sources compiles on your pc? :) 20.25.01 # Do you have the full Rockbox source code? You should see a set of directories including "rbutil", "docs", "apps", "tools" all at the same level. 20.25.17 # What is the best way to play audio ? I want to feed the audio pipeline with data coming from usb but I'm lost. I see there is a combinaison of audio.h&pcm.h in doom for example but the wiki talks about pcmbuf... 20.25.19 # anti[v4]: that combo doesn't work for rbutil, IIUC 20.25.41 # anti[v4]: For rbutil it is qmake then make 20.26.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.26.03 # linuxstb, 20.26.04 # antixpuct rbutil-9999 # ls /var/tmp/portage/app-misc/rbutil-9999/work/rbutil-9999 :( 20.26.04 # you don't configure/make/make install - that is the sims/Rockbox 20.26.04 # apps/ rbutil/ tools/ 20.26.31 # AlexP, i know. see ebuild source, it did qmake too ;) 20.26.55 # we don't know ebuild 20.26.57 # You just said "it just did "./configure&&make&&make install"" 20.27.09 # kugel, it just bash script ;) 20.27.12 # which is wrong for rbutil 20.27.20 # anti[v4]: The first error in your log was "Cannot find file ../../docs/CREDITS" - so you are at least missing the "docs" directory. 20.27.49 Quit dmb (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 20.28.32 Join dmb [0] (~dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 20.29.55 # I'd just try doing it manually - check out the source do qmake && make - done. That way we can check if the problem is rbutil or a user generated e-build that we don't support :) 20.30.54 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p5B0EDBB1.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.32.27 # anti[v4]: can you just try adding the line "subversion_fetch ${ESVN_REPO_URI}/docs docs" to the src_unpack() function? 20.32.31 # it's very strange 20.32.37 # linuxstb, i can 20.33.02 # * anti[v4] trying to build rbutils by hands 20.33.11 Part watto 20.35.57 # anti[v4]: there is no ./configure for Rockbox Utility 20.36.19 # bluebrother, i know 20.36.19 # plus, you need various folders from svn. You can find a list in rbutil/rbutilqt/deploy-release.py 20.36.33 # bluebrother, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/bin/viewfile/Main/RockboxUtility?filename=rbutil-9999.ebuild;rev=4 20.36.42 # see in src_compile function 20.37.11 Quit kaniini (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.37.31 # it performs "qmake" and "make". When i says "./configure&&make&&make install" i mean, that it just amulates usual user actions 20.37.38 # I have no idea what "eqmake4" exactly does. 20.37.40 # *emulates 20.37.50 # it did "qmake" ;) 20.38.00 # you might want to simply build using deploy-release.py ... 20.38.13 # Or type qmake && make 20.38.22 # it creates a tarball with the resulting binary, but well ... 20.39.07 # Project MESSAGE: release 20.39.08 # RCC: Error in 'rbutilqt-lang.qrc': Cannot find file 'lang/rbutil_cs.qm' 20.39.08 # RCC: Error in 'rbutilqt-lang.qrc': Cannot find file 'lang/rbutil_de.qm' 20.39.08 DBUG Enqueued KICK anti[v4] 20.39.08 # RCC: Error in 'rbutilqt-lang.qrc': Cannot find file 'lang/rbutil_fi.qm' 20.39.09 # O_o 20.39.27 # anti[v4]: Ignore that 20.39.30 # that's harmless. 20.39.55 # interesting. The pastebin shows Qt 4.6.3, but the download page at Nokia only has 4.6.2 o.O 20.40.08 # bluebrother: Pretty sure I have 4.6.3 20.40.14 # me too 20.40.21 # AlexP: on arch? 20.40.26 # yep 20.40.44 # oh no 20.40.49 # My mistake 4.6.2 20.40.53 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 20.40.53 # * anti[v4] sometime joking, that arch is userfriendly gentoo ;) 20.41.06 # I could have sworn I saw 4.6.3, but nevermind :) 20.41.25 Quit dmb (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 20.41.28 # anti[v4]: It is for people who have better things to do than spend half their lives watching things compile :) 20.41.45 # >_< 20.41.51 # no 20.42.04 # Anyway, off topic - #rockbox-community for chat 20.42.05 # gentoo supporting binary packages as well, as compiling 20.42.17 Join dmb [0] (~dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 20.42.27 # grrr. Why doesn't gitorious show tags? 20.42.31 # it is no need to compile for half life ;) 20.42.42 # btw, strange: 20.42.46 # * bluebrother is not interested in distro flamewars. 20.42.50 # it compiles fine with docs ;) 20.42.54 # at least not in this channel. 20.43.06 # anti[v4]: OK, I'll add that to SVN. 20.43.13 # docs/CREDITS is a required file. 20.43.35 # Ah no, it's not in SVN, it's in the wiki... 20.43.37 # why? ;) 20.43.49 # because it's not maintained and user contributed. 20.43.50 # anti[v4]: Who was that question to? 20.43.52 # linuxstb: Do we want things like that in SVN? 20.44.10 # AlexP: It seems to work... I would say either put it in SVN, or delete it. 20.44.17 # AlexP: I'd say if some dev is willing to keep it up to date. 20.44.20 # I'd get rid of it then 20.44.23 # bluebrother: well quite 20.44.33 # I don't see the problem if it goes out of date 20.44.42 # I think nobody would, and it'd just be another forgotten half working thing 20.44.44 # People can submit patches 20.44.46 # Well, it seems straightfoward to maintain, unless building rbutil changes drastically. 20.44.51 # But maybe I'm being pessimistic :) 20.45.04 # I'm not objecting if people want to 20.45.08 # if it goes out of date what's the point in having it in svn at all? 20.45.21 # bluebrother: So people can submit patches... 20.45.42 # They can just update the wiki no? 20.45.59 # * bluebrother goes back considering to create a rpm spec :) 20.46.18 # But as I said, I don't think it's a problem to maintain. 20.46.29 # * linuxstb will leave it to bluebrother, as an rbutil dev, to decide though... 20.46.58 # I don't think it's ap problem either, but I fail to see the usefulness in it. 20.47.09 # It's also an executable script, and I've always thought we've had a policy to avoid having those in the wiki. 20.48.43 Join kaniini [0] (~quassel@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 20.50.06 # hmm, wasn't the ebuild removed from that download link table and only mentioned in the text? 20.50.19 # No idea... 20.51.10 # bluebrother: ideas before I leave? 20.52.05 # * linuxstb wishes there was a "wiki annotate" feature... 20.52.46 # indeed it was, but the guy that updated the ebuild added it again. 20.53.17 # btw. (also for domonoky) - I just tested rbspeexenc+dec on the 10.4 PPC with a .wav file I recorded before (not generated by RbUtil) and get the same noise 20.54.15 # lol... 20.54.46 Quit kaniini (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.55.00 Join kaniini [0] (~quassel@dyn75-70.yok.fi) 20.55.04 # pixelma: I could imagine that wavtrim and the other tools that are creating the voice file fail on ppc 20.55.35 # did you have success with 10.5 intel? 20.56.06 # yes... well, 10.6 today 20.56.07 # i've add only "cd ${S}/rbutil" before qmake (except of "cd rbutil") ($S = workdir) and it compiling fine ;) 20.57.04 # ^_^ 20.57.04 # bluebrother: shall I try a 10.4 Intel? 20.58.03 # pixelma: would be nice. 21.00.45 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.01.36 # pixelma: ok, did I understood you correctly that 10.4 ppc produces broken voice files for archos but talk files work? 21.03.26 # yes 21.04.34 Quit anewuser () 21.07.00 Quit dmb (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.07.31 # New commit by 03Buschel (r25135): Fix playback of atrac3 joint stereo encoded files. Define the interpolation macro in the right way. 21.07.52 # does anybody have a possible explanation for FS#11091 and FS#11093? 21.08.04 Quit n17ikh (Remote host closed the connection) 21.09.05 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 21.09.06 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.09.33 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.09.58 # New commit by 03Buschel (r25136): Fix comment on interpolation macro. 21.10.21 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.10.21 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 21.10.39 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.11.44 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Heavy thunderstorm. Disconnecting equipment to stay on the safe(er) side.) 21.14.07 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 21.14.52 Quit notByan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.15.01 # bluebrother: also the hanging RbUtil with wron TTS seems to happen as follows > first have a valid TTS configuration > change TTS engine to e.g. Swift > configuration still shows ok (it contains the path to the valid, previous TTS) 21.15.11 # wrong too 21.15.29 Quit dantje (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.16.44 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.22.35 Quit Highlander (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.25.04 Quit Battousai (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.27.08 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 21.27.44 Join dmb [0] (~dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 21.32.18 # und bei 10.4 Intel gibt's bzgl. Sprachclips das gleiche Ergebnis wie bei 10.4 PPC 21.32.18 # bluebrother: a voice file created with a 10.4 Intel doesn't work either 21.32.31 # * pixelma goes home now though 21.32.43 Join notByan [0] (~notByan@lackey.csl.mtu.edu) 21.32.57 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.35.14 Quit dmb (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 21.36.56 Join dmb [0] (~dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 21.42.31 Quit dmb (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.42.34 # can anybody replace "gentoo" string in download section in wiki with 'use "rion" overlay'? 21.42.50 # and remove string with ebuild from there ;) 21.43.51 # Yes, anybody can. 21.44.05 # New commit by 03theseven (r25137): Hopefully fix the latest Nano2G NAND issues. (FS#11092) Transfers for some of the chips apple is using will be slow until someone implements cached ... 21.44.34 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-220-102-158.mcn.bellsouth.net) 21.45.08 Quit Adnyxo (Remote host closed the connection) 21.45.42 Join karashata [0] (~karashata@74-220-162-11.wightman.ca) 21.47.05 Join Tomis2 [0] (~Tomis@70.134.102.164) 21.47.35 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 21.47.35 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.47.53 Quit Tomis (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.47.54 Nick Tomis2 is now known as Tomis (~Tomis@70.134.102.164) 21.48.33 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.48.55 Quit notlistening (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.56.20 Quit Adnyxo (Remote host closed the connection) 22.01.16 Quit krazykit` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.01.20 Join dmb [0] (~dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 22.07.11 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@70.236.69.200) 22.09.46 Quit dmb_ (Quit: Leaving) 22.10.31 # Does anyone have any other changes to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GSoCOrgApp2010 before I submit it? 22.11.05 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 22.13.21 # i will probably submit it in about 30 minutes, so... 22.13.35 Join S_a_i_n_t_ [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.38) 22.14.21 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 22.15.03 # do you want grammar check as well or only meaty changes? 22.15.42 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.17.15 Join planetbeing_ [0] (~planetbei@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 22.17.26 # that works too 22.18.18 # "In 2008, we were assigned 5 slots, however we accepted 4 projects (giving one back to the pool) after duplicate resolutions." 22.18.36 # having trouble parsing the end of that. 22.19.51 # two sentences later: should it not be "speakers of languages other than English" as opposed to "speakers of other languages than English"? 22.20.23 # duplicate resolutions is a period where students accepted to more than one org are worked out 22.20.42 # so plural is correct? 22.21.04 # it is acceptable, i would say 22.21.06 # scorche: the main development ml is rockbox? Not rockbox-dev? 22.21.21 # and i agree with the “two sentences later part” 22.21.44 # bluebroth3r: errr...right 22.22.59 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-221-92.cust.bredband2.com) 22.23.06 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 22.23.08 # "a student pulling out and after having another contribute to another organization for the summer." - isn't that simply "two students pulling out" ? 22.24.16 # just make any change you feel is needed and if it shouldnt have been made, i will change it back 22.25.58 # Do we have any idea how many students/organisations will be part of SoC this year? i.e. are we fighting for few organisation spots, or should we be confident of at least getting some students? 22.26.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.30.03 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.79) 22.31.21 # about the same number of orgs and projects as last year 22.31.33 # done, linuxstb, you can make that change now. 22.32.47 Quit S_a_i_n_t_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.39.10 # The goal would be to produce a decoders using either the best known ... 22.42.10 Quit kaniini (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.44.42 # Timex Clock Radio for Sannsa 22.46.13 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.47.48 Join planetbeing__ [0] (~planetbei@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 22.49.16 Quit planetbeing_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.52.27 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r25138): Respect the exit code of external encoder called. ... 22.59.43 Join S_a_i_n_t_ [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.238) 23.00.05 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.00.22 # Eh? "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmingw32" wtf?? 23.00.46 # * amiconn will restart that vm in a minute 23.01.22 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.04.04 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 23.08.21 Quit Buschel () 23.12.45 Quit Highlander (Quit: Quitte) 23.17.18 Join Adnyxo [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 23.19.27 # alright...then if there are no objections, i will submit the application 23.22.52 Quit Curtman (Quit: Leaving) 23.24.10 Join krazykit` [0] (~kkit@adsl-76-240-216-183.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 23.24.10 Quit krazykit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.27.13 # looks fine to me 23.30.20 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 23.30.35 # arg, usbaudio is nearlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy working, but that's even more frustating ! 23.32.28 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.34.20 Quit perfectdrug (Remote host closed the connection) 23.36.02 Join Strife89 [0] (~michael@adsl-154-14-193.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.39.11 # Damn. What should I do about FS#11092? 23.39.35 # Just revert it? I don't really like to do that, but I don't see what could be the problem either 23.42.48 # > Organization Application submitted. 23.44.28 # great 23.47.12 # TheSeven: i am having similar problems since today 23.48.13 # last good/first bad revision? 23.48.48 # is it also caused by those commits around 22100? 23.49.33 # its currently happening with r25114 23.50.54 # i'll try the latest revision 23.51.19 # you also had that toshiba flash, right? 23.51.42 Quit pamaury (Quit: Page closed) 23.52.20 # TheSeven: don't know, its a 2555D3EC 23.53.34 # erm, that's the Samsung chip I'm also having! 23.53.59 # no, wait, i have the D5EC variant 23.54.11 # anyways, it's supposed to support interleaved writes 23.54.18 # how many banks do you have? 23.54.23 # (havent tried it on the A585D598 yet) 23.54.32 # 4 banks 23.56.09 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!)