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When I'm not on a preset it is a "0" but a %?Ti will always be true so I can't surpress the display 10.08.14 # so put a %?tm<> before it 10.09.00 # the tag for scan/preset mode i mean 10.09.04 # I may have got that wrong 10.09.28 # no, you can be in scan mode and can still see if you "hit" a preset 10.09.43 # wow, we #define DEFAULT_CONTRAST and DEFAULT_CONTRAST_SETTING 10.10.08 # IMO that's a "must" to be able to manually put your preset file together 10.10.49 # if you are in scan mode then you dont have presets around 10.10.59 # JdGordon: it works as I expected for preset name, why not preset number? 10.11.10 # you can 10.11.35 # that is a damn good question.... both are useing the exact same codepath 10.12.25 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@skatol.ch.pw.edu.pl) 10.13.38 # ok, how do you get to this state? load a preset file then go into scan mode? 10.13.46 # yes 10.13.56 # ok hang on 10.14.12 # * pixelma spots a Zagor around 10.15.04 # * Zagor waves 10.15.31 # pixelma: %ti is preset inmdex? 10.17.02 # Zagor: during the downtime I noticed something weird on the download mirrors. They have "oldstylename-currentdate" and "newstylename-currentdate" dailies in the subfolders, the content of the old style ones is from before the rename action but they keep the zips and those zips even get new dates 10.17.08 # JdGordon: %Ti 10.17.40 # pixelma: odd 10.18.16 # pixelma: can you test a patch? 10.18.37 # JdGordon: yes, now that svn is up again 10.19.09 # http://pastebin.com/zL9GNKMS 10.19.13 # nice n easy fix 10.19.16 # if it works :p 10.19.18 # do You have good source for li-ion/lipo batteries to be used as replacement in DAP? 10.19.46 Quit bug2000 (Remote host closed the connection) 10.20.06 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 10.20.23 # wodz: the CameronSino batterys are good (got one for my h320) i don't know about resellers outside Sweden though, but i think some ebay shops have them 10.21.27 # JdGordon: compiling will take a bit though 10.21.38 # which target? 10.21.49 # my main problem is I don't know battery type - it should just fit in place and dimensions are rarely stated 10.22.01 # my radio modded OndioFM 10.22.34 # err... backlight modde :) 10.23.46 # http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/ajbrec.ajz 10.24.25 # thanks, I'll compile nonetheless but this is quicker 10.29.21 # JdGordon: is there file fully uploaded? I get the "what to do with the file" dialogue and set it to "ask where" for the save file item but it doesn't ask... 10.30.01 # wierd... wfm 10.30.25 # what about irc dcc? 10.30.41 # doesn't work in my client 10.31.08 # http://filebin.ca/goedwf/ajbrec.ajz 10.32.59 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 10.36.14 # JdGordon: either the file wasn't uploaded completely or you must have done something wrong... RoLoing gives me a "Rockbox Rescue Boo/RoLot" cycle (and a slight panic but I was able to turn it off) 10.36.33 # Boot and RoLo 10.38.42 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.39.42 # filesize is way too small, hmm 10.41.31 # ok, compiling my own now 10.42.09 # current_tick is incremented in kernel tick or it is read from timer register? 10.45.20 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@pa58-109-194-133.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.47.29 Join AndChat- [0] (~jd@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.49.23 # JdGordon, JdGord: the patch doesn't even compile for me. It fails: in function 'get_radio_token': 10.49.26 # /home/Marianne/SVN/rockbox/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_tokens.c:439: error: syntax error before ';' token 10.49.49 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.53.44 Quit storm` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.54.59 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-235-218-dynip.superkabel.de) 11.01.29 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 11.01.34 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 11.04.10 Topic "Now in feature freeze for 3.6 | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | DevCon2010 will be from June 4th to 6th in Ghent, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevConEuro2010" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.04.17 # Seeing as we seem to be back and all 11.05.40 # our plan is to switch provider, tomorrow around 13:00 central european 11.06.05 # Seems fair enough 11.06.09 # that was quick 11.06.14 # I seem to remember this not being the first time 11.06.29 # exactly, we have no faith left in these guys 11.09.59 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 11.11.12 Quit Forsaken_Boy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.11.35 # JdGordon: compiles without the patch 11.12.03 # ok that is wierd 11.12.59 # oh! 11.13.38 # I hit b too early and got the bootloader build 11.13.59 Quit AndChat- (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.14.39 # pixelma http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/ajbrec.ajz 11.15.31 # aha, now I'm also asked where to save to 11.15.48 # did the patch compile for you then? 11.16.08 # no, i missed a ) 11.16.14 # but it didnt fail the build because apps/ wasnt being built 11.16.21 Join deleete [0] (~4fad507b@giant.haxx.se) 11.16.31 # ok, let's see 11.16.50 Quit flatrose (Remote host closed the connection) 11.17.07 # quick.. i want to ci before going t the pub :p 11.17.24 # seems to work now :) 11.17.44 # JdGordon: do you also know something about the auto-change directory code? 11.18.06 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r26246): fix the %Ti (preset index) not working with conditionls correctly 11.18.13 # I suppose I should... whats the problem? 11.18.24 # it crashes on hwcodec 11.18.46 # when it actually has to change to a new directory 11.18.52 # its been in for 3 years at least :) so finding when it broke would be hel;pful 11.19.23 # hmm, I suppose... if testing on Ondio wouldn't be such a 11.20.44 # unless it never worked? 11.21.39 # I have no idea, it's the first I tried IIRC 11.22.22 # I would laugh hysterically if it never did 11.22.32 # proving that hwcodec and charcell should DIE! 11.23.02 # *gone* 11.23.10 # no, proving the usefulness of auto-change directory... 11.24.31 # the reported address is weirdly in _cue_find_current_track (apps/cuesheet.o) 11.28.51 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3FF3C.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.29.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.30.16 Join DataGhost [0] (~dataghost@unaffiliated/dataghost) 11.37.57 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@pa58-109-199-119.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.40.41 # can I change a lang ID just like that or do I always have to deprecate the string and add a new? 11.41.19 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-18bd3f51.dyn.optonline.net) 11.41.28 # pixelma: depends on how you do it 11.41.58 # if you just change the ID you should be fine 11.42.03 # It mostly depends how soon after the string was added 11.42.25 # just s/LANG_FOO/LANG_BAR/ is fine 11.42.48 # the binary lang files depend on the order of the strings, not the actual ID 11.43.05 # n1s: idea, description, source (and dest, voice in english.lang) need to be changed 11.43.08 # I think i'm going to do a cleanup aftr we release 11.43.15 # any details know about the site outage? 11.43.16 # er s/idea/ID 11.45.08 # n1s: I want to change the reuse of "FM Radio" which is in the main menu for the radio screen theme item. That won't be a problem for "FM Radio" itself because I need a new string for this anyways but for the "Remote FM Radio" string 11.45.19 # this one would need changing 11.45.49 # pixelma: i think it's ok, it will play the old voice clip with an old voice file though, but if you change it so any targets that didn't have the string gets it or vice versa, every voice clip after that one will be off 11.46.57 # but honestly, deprecated strings are quite cheap and as i said, i'll clean them out after the release unless someone else beats me to it 11.47.38 # they cost 3 bytes IIRC 11.48.05 # my suggestion is to change it to "Radio Screen" and "Remote Radio Screen" and I'd like to have it in the release because the current ones are confusing (noticed when I had to explain the remote one to a translator here) 11.48.31 # unfortunately that will make the already updated translations incorrect again 11.48.52 # true 11.49.37 # what *is* kind of expensive is when people keep adding identical strings to the lang files, whihc i will also try to sort out 11.49.42 # ok, I first try if I can manage to do the necessary code changes, then send a mail to the dev list probably 11.51.50 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.54.02 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.55.20 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 11.58.12 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.03.01 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.03.34 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 12.03.54 # * pixelma notices some "### hints for the translator" in nederlands.lang 12.04.07 # yay! 12.06.19 # talking about translations... last week I posted an updated translation of catalan 12.06.25 # on FS 12.06.49 # New commit by 03funman (r26247): as3543 rtc wakeup: fix power off ... 12.06.49 # n1s: as in "cheap way to up my commit count"? 12.06.55 # New commit by 03funman (r26248): mkamsboot/rbutil/amsinfo : do not try to detect the model of a given Sansa AMS OF ... 12.08.22 # pixelma: that's one way to look at it, and also it usually means incomplete translation so a bit more sarcastic "yay" 12.08.54 # it was just updated last Friday or so 12.09.11 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.12.34 # including these 12.12.47 # pixelma: from a quick look, it looks as if at least some strings were not translated at all, and just left as english 12.17.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.19.41 # what targets are !HAVE_LCD_BITMAP 12.19.51 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.19.54 # ? 12.20.12 # the Archos Player - it has a charcell display 12.20.56 # the only one? 12.21.02 # Can someone look at FS#11293 and commit it if it's OK? 12.24.13 # anyone want to comment on my proposed patch for font loading, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11168 12.24.22 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 12.24.27 # i'd like to commit it for 3.6 if possible to remove the six-second delay on booting on ipodvideo ;) 12.25.29 Join Kitr88 [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-182-80-188.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.25.39 # argh, why do I now get a crash in powermanagement on my Ondio? the flashed build didn't change and should work at least 12.26.29 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.28.04 Quit ssorgatem (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.31.08 Quit deleete (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 12.34.46 # Torne: I'm not sure about this one. What means buffer_alloc() w.r.t. to changing fonts after boot? 12.34.58 # it doesn't mean anything 12.35.03 # it only allocates the buffer once 12.35.08 # hmm, yesterday I flashed revision 26060 and now I found out that's a revision inbetween a commit and its "revert because it breaks Archos targets" :\ 12.35.26 # a powermanagement related 12.36.38 # ok, installing the full build of r26060 at least gave me access to my Ondio back 12.39.06 # Torne can we fix fontcache instead? 12.39.35 # JdGord: go on then :) 12.39.57 # I'm not sure that should go in 3.6... 12.40.26 # indeed 12.41.13 # (seriously though, dynamically allocating the font buffer is probably a good idea *anyway*) 12.41.39 # i'd just like 3.6 not to take twice as long to boot on ipodvideo as anything else 12.41.57 # the "quickest" way of fixing that is to slap #define MAX_FONT_SIZE 300000 in ipodvideo.h :) 12.42.01 # I tend yo agree. But being in freeze means no new code 12.42.03 # but that wastes memory for everybody 12.42.39 # ..how do you fix bugs without producing new code? :) 12.43.11 # Wee 12.43.19 # Well yeah 12.44.10 # * Torne shrugs, we can leave it.. 3.5, 3.4, etc all booted slow :) 12.44.15 # the slowness isn't new 12.44.42 # in general, though, even if the font cache gets fixed i think dynamic allocation makes sense 12.44.50 # up to some limit dependent on available memory 12.45.06 # because not having to use the cache is quicker at boot time *and* runtime, even if the cache worked better 12.45.29 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.45.34 # (and the lower limits could probably stand to be quite a bit smaller than the amount we allocate now) 12.45.45 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 12.45.57 # (the font i use only takes half the buffer) 12.46.15 # Its BS false economies... forcing it to use the cache means a slighlty bigger file buffer 12.47.46 # weird, just copying over the ajbrec.ajz, the flash image and the flash plugin seems to have worked (RoLo worked then and flashing did, now unzipping the complete build). Since the firmware on the Archoses should basically work without the additional files, I really wonder what was going on there :/ 12.48.18 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 12.49.38 # New commit by 03uchida (r26249): fix: when move_handle() is successful, the return value ... 12.49.48 # * bluebroth3r thinks that being in freeze means "no new features", not "no new code" 12.51.07 # Hm, i just realised it doesn't work, though :) 12.51.11 # well, in a pretty obscure case 12.51.21 # it will go weirdly wrong if you boot up with the ui font set to sysfont 12.51.23 # and then set a font later 12.51.37 # incidentally, why does buffer_alloc *not check if playback is running* :) 12.52.08 Join ucchan [0] (~ucchan@softbank126102048037.bbtec.net) 12.56.10 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@207-237-241-192.c3-0.80w-ubr1.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) 12.56.17 # that seems.. dangerous ;) 12.56.25 # To make sure whoever is calling it is paying attention 12.56.49 # hehe 12.57.24 # Buffer_alloc. Is a bad idea in general 12.57.33 # * Torne hrms? 12.57.58 # * JdGord burps 12.58.04 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.59.50 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@90-224-31-157-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 13.01.02 # Torne: what is the status of ipod shutdown? 13.01.11 # hm? 13.01.16 # we're stumped 13.02.00 # I can test on mini 1G if You will have some new ideas 13.02.55 # no, we have no idea. 13.03.00 Join wincent [0] (~wincent@f055178096.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.03.07 Quit Zarggg (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.03.22 # and it doesn't seem like it even behaves the same for everyone on the same model. 13.03.36 # so.. yeah. 13.03.49 # which fix will be shipped with 3.6? 13.04.02 # hm? the one that's in there now :) 13.04.28 # so "battery low icon at the end" fix? 13.04.42 # wasn't there a new bootloader to test on Mini 1G? 13.05.15 # yes 13.05.18 # can you test that, please? :) 13.05.24 # wodz: no, that was reverted ages ago 13.05.44 Quit lpereira (Quit: Leaving.) 13.06.37 # Torne: is build for this test bootloader uploaded somewere or should I compile on my own? 13.06.48 # it's on the forum thread 13.07.32 # ok, I can test this but later, I don't have usb cable with me now. 13.08.47 # Why ipod batteris have so low capacity? 13.08.59 # hm? 13.09.33 # original mini is ~500mAh and with this dimensions it can be 1000 or more 13.09.44 # it can *now*, yes 13.10.29 # it came out in january 2004, though.. 13.11.15 # but even recent ipods have quite low capacity. Ipod Touch 3G is shipped with 800mAh or 880 and battery *is* big - something like 40x50x3mm 13.14.59 # also, everything's driven by cost, no? 13.15.46 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.17.18 # yeh, terror of accountatns 13.22.05 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-060-249.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.22.47 # Torne: what will happen with UI font == sysfont? 13.22.59 # gevaerts: well, font_load doesn't get called on startup then 13.23.02 # so the buffer alloc won't get done 13.23.11 # and then if you later load a font, it will try and do it then 13.23.11 # ah, right 13.23.20 # which will screw stuff up if buffering is active :) 13.23.33 # gevaerts: what do you think of the approach, though? 13.23.36 # that does sound like "going wrong" indeed :) 13.23.38 # assuming it was fixed? 13.23.56 # is it worth doing 1) at all, or do we just fix the cache and leave the buffer as it is 2) in 3.6 13.24.14 # i'm undecided whether it counts as a bugfix or a feature ;) 13.24.23 # I'd see it as a bugfix 13.24.33 # i guess the simplest "bugfix" would be to make the buffer statically 300KB on ipodvideo, which is the only player that seems to actually have the problem 13.24.45 # font cache loading is slower on everything, but not so much that you really notice 13.26.23 # right 13.26.33 # * gevaerts is undecided 13.27.45 # a static 300KB buffer is obviously the simple safe fix 13.29.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.31.51 # Well, doing nothing is the simplest/safest 13.31.57 # this issue isn't technically new 13.32.08 # it's been like this for a couple of releases at least 13.32.24 # so it's not a regression from 3.5 or 3.4 13.33.01 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-44-69.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 13.34.43 # i suspect we should just ignore it for 3.6 13.38.10 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.40.33 # as I remember we do not have *alloc functions. So how are dynamic lists generated? 13.41.09 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-182-57-154.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 13.41.36 # * pixelma has a nice "Radio Screen" and resp. "Remote Radio Screen" in theme settings now 13.41.56 # context - I am looking how to move most of the code from app/debug_menu.c to target tree and I am wondering how to create list of debug functions on the fly 13.43.04 # wodz: er, but surely the available debug functions are known at compile time 13.43.05 Join flipe [0] (~9bd2e855@giant.haxx.se) 13.43.11 # why would you want to dynamically build it? 13.43.27 # hi! 13.43.32 # something like add_list_item(char *tilte, (*function)(void)) 13.43.45 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 13.43.47 # someone knows if rockbox r26249 fuze v2 can be used with OF 2.03.33 (last one)? 13.43.56 # the debug menu is statically build at the moment, though 13.44.01 # why would you want it to be dynamic? 13.44.02 # Torne: debug_menu.c is a mess lots of ifdefs, code duplication etc. 13.44.07 # Yes, I know 13.44.19 # i'm just saying i'm not sure why you have to build the menu dynamically to fix that. 13.45.09 # hmm. I can in theory define list for each target (group of targets)... 13.45.45 # flipe: yes, build mkamsboot from svn 13.46.19 # but it would be much more elegant to 1) define generic list valid for all targets 2) add to this list cpu/platform specyfic stuf 3)add target specyfic stuff if any 13.46.55 # ok, I will tried to download it, because I tried to download rockbox utility from svn and it was an oddisey 13.46.56 # can't you add specific entries statically ? 13.47.20 # funman: I don't understand 13.47.26 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 13.48.38 # wodz: it's just an array.. #include part of it from the target tree. 13.49.00 # there's loads of ways to do this :) 13.49.02 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 13.49.34 # but this will again introduce ifdefs 13.50.16 # nope, just add a TARGET_DEBUG_MENU in menuitems[], and define this in the target headers 13.50.45 # hmm that's clever 13.50.56 Quit flipe (Quit: CGI:IRC) 13.51.04 # i think the only way to add entries to an array is through a macro 13.53.42 # are there any targets which do not have dbg_ports() defined? 13.54.09 # funman: I meant #include an entire source file into the middle of the array, but hey 13.54.14 # :) 13.55.16 # wodz: only grep can tell! 13.55.37 # I was afraid of this answer :-/ 13.56.00 Quit ucchan (Quit: Leaving...) 14.00.43 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.00.59 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 14.03.31 Join Luca_S [0] (~5d3fc54b@giant.haxx.se) 14.03.56 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.04.20 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@ool-457bccf5.dyn.optonline.net) 14.05.10 # hello everybody! a quick question: how does song rating work in rockbox? I tag song rating in mediamonkey, but RB does not see it. however in the Azure theme are visible five black stars, as if rockbox supported some kind of song rating. in the wiki there are references to a wps context menu action called 'set song rating', but I can't find it in that menu. 14.05.39 # (I forgot to say I'm using a FuzeV2) 14.09.49 # Luca_S: Rockbox uses its database for rating. I don't know of any way to have that interact with any PC program (yet) 14.11.00 # bluebroth3r: I see. but where do I set each song rating? 14.11.59 Quit wincent (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.12.45 Join wincent [0] (~wincent@f055178096.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.13.13 # Luca_S: good question. IIRC it was avaliable in the wps context menu, but I can't find it again. 14.13.59 # ah, just found it: you have to enable "Gather runtime data" in the database settings first 14.14.05 # otherwise the entry isn't shown at all. 14.14.16 # from the WPS context menu and with "gather runtime data enabled" IIRC, the manuals are available again 14.14.27 Quit MagusG (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.14.31 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-76-97-148-35.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 14.18.25 Join bug2000 [0] (~bug@unaffiliated/bug2000) 14.18.25 Quit MagusG (*.net *.split) 14.18.25 Quit mt (*.net *.split) 14.18.25 Quit DataGhost (*.net *.split) 14.18.25 Quit wodz (*.net *.split) 14.18.25 Quit kenguest (*.net *.split) 14.18.25 Quit linuxstb (*.net *.split) 14.18.25 Quit komputes (*.net *.split) 14.18.26 Quit avacore (*.net *.split) 14.18.26 Quit aevin (*.net *.split) 14.18.26 # just checked, it's written in the manual indeed. sorry. however it would be useful to specify that RB's rating is independent from the tags' rating. 14.18.27 Quit wincent (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.18.27 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-76-97-148-35.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 14.18.27 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 14.18.27 Join DataGhost [0] (~dataghost@unaffiliated/dataghost) 14.18.27 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@skatol.ch.pw.edu.pl) 14.18.27 Join kenguest [0] (~radagast@lir.talideon.com) 14.18.27 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 14.18.27 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 14.18.27 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 14.18.27 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 14.18.30 # Is the Sansa Fuze v2 [unstable port] stable as the Clip [which is pretty stable]? 14.18.30 # Luca_S: very few programs use the id3 tag rating 14.18.46 # *Clip v1. 14.18.53 # (and it would be *very* expensive to actually update that in rockbox, you have to rewrite the entire file usually) 14.18.58 # bug2000: I'm using current svn and did not have a single crash in weeks 14.19.36 # Good enough for me. Now to figure if I can make Rockbox the secondery firmware on it. 14.19.46 # I want to secretly install it on that fuze *Evil Grin* 14.22.00 # Torne: I see the problem with updating the tag, and the OF doesn't store it in the tag too (AFAIK). now looking in the manual for the meaning of the 'Gather runtime data' option 14.26.08 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.26.28 # * bug2000 notes to himself there is no XM playback so he can delete all these files. 14.29.49 # Nor a lot of other modular types. 14.30.02 # * bug2000 looks for a list of modular files supported by rockbox. 14.31.44 # I wonder what the status of the mikmod patch in the tracker is 14.32.49 # Mikmod does support them. But I'm pretty sure I didn't see that on my clip when copied. 14.32.58 # I think I should just make one of each and see whats get listed! 14.33.17 # just .mod in SVN 14.33.31 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.33.35 # Saved me time, so I can remove anything that isn't .mod from the clip? 14.34.28 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 14.35.00 # some of my .nst files played after renaming them to .mod butall other a bit more complicated files with additional features didn't play 14.36.54 # I'm still happy it plays spc :) 14.37.22 Quit halmi (Quit: halmi) 14.37.47 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-44-69.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 14.50.13 # Ok O_O 14.50.31 # This is new. I just pluged rockbox to my PC and I see a USB cable. 14.51.06 # I suspect you saw the cable before plugging it in :) 14.51.37 # Nah, more like it froze with a cable paint. 14.51.52 # I wonder if it's due to the fact I tried to crash it. 14.52.11 # .mod files which are too big crash rockbox :) 14.53.55 Join Schmogel [0] (~Miranda@p3EE22C68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.54.08 # bug2000: what I meant with my mikmod statement was that there is a started port of mikmod to Rockbox (first as a plugin but also a try to make it a codec and replace the current mod codec). But it's a patch and you would have to compile a build with it and I'm not sure if it is maintained. The port has to fight with Rockbox's limits regarding codecs etc. so is not the same as mikmod on PC or so, last time I tried the codec variant didn't play simple 14.54.08 # .mod files larger than the codec buffer which is something the SVN mod codec can though) 14.54.28 # it's some time ago, I admit 14.54.58 # I see. 15.16.03 Join evilnick_B [0] (~0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.18.29 Join JohannesSM64 [0] (~johannes@cm-84.209.35.116.getinternet.no) 15.22.46 Part LinusN 15.23.48 # does someone remember whether the old radio screen (before skin support) used to scroll the station name if it didn't fit on the screen? 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16.57.48 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.57.54 # pixelma: yes 16.57.54 # Zagor: how long expected downtime? 16.57.55 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 16.58.23 # n1s: 2-3 hours 16.58.41 # possibly less, but these things always take more time than you hope 16.58.48 # they do 16.59.06 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 17.00.13 Topic "Scheduled server downtime Tuesday 13:00-16:00 CET | Now in feature freeze for 3.6 | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | DevCon2010 will be from June 4th to 6th in Ghent, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevConEuro2010" by Zagor (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 17.00.18 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 17.00.24 Mode "#rockbox -o Zagor" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 17.01.23 Join matchhead [0] (~76d2e77e@giant.haxx.se) 17.01.31 Quit matchhead (Client Quit) 17.07.02 Join lpereira [0] (~lucien@did75-8-82-226-27-213.fbx.proxad.net) 17.07.14 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 17.07.17 # New commit by 03funman (r26251): as3525*: sd_wait_for_state() is only used for waiting to SD_TRAN state 17.10.50 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 17.12.26 Part Zagor 17.14.48 Quit lpereira (Quit: Leaving.) 17.16.08 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-174-49-112-244.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 17.18.17 # the longer I look, the more differences I find between the old radio screen and the new :| 17.24.50 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3E3D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.26.15 # * pixelma wonders how radio skins work with the button bar 17.27.07 # not many people with a FM-Recorder (or V2 with radio) around though.... 17.28.35 # s/around// :o) 17.29.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.29.47 # you never know 17.31.46 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 17.31.52 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.36.33 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CB7F.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.38.49 # pixelma: you are entirely missing the point of skinning it then 17.39.32 # and to answer your wonderings... button bar isnt drawn anymore 17.39.38 # if you want it, you need to add it to the skin 17.40.02 # the default should still show a similar amount of info as before 17.44.34 # JdGordon: how would you add the button bar to the skin, is there a tag or something? 17.44.53 # no, it would need to be drawn manually 17.45.13 # how? 17.45.29 # setup the viewport, then draw the text 17.45.44 # even if you do 3 viewports, thats maybe 6 lines of cod needed 17.46.11 # you can't do that as before... it was white text on black... 17.47.24 # force the viewport colours 17.47.37 # or wait till post 3.6 and use the new tag 17.47.44 # you currently can't on monochrome 17.48.37 # ok 17.49.51 # and if I recall (though I only saw screenshots as the Ondio doesn't have it) it was context (screen) aware, your lines of code will become very messy even if it is possible. I don't have a very strong opinion even if it looks this way but if you take current functionality away it might be important 17.50.28 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.51.08 # I have a very strong opinion on the button bars, and you arnt going to like it 17.51.40 # I also dont care too much about removing a barely used feature so 99% of other people have a much better experience 17.52.35 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 17.52.38 # well if you wan't to remove it please but then do it correctly and announce it correctly and give people the possibility to rebuild it if they are inclined 17.53.11 # you could just as easily use a bmp for it if oyu want to mimick the old behaviour 17.53.38 # one bitmap won't do 17.53.50 # sure it will 17.54.23 # maybe a bitmap strip with I don't know how many entries 17.54.27 # IIRC the bar *in* the fm screen was static 17.54.47 # so put it in the fms at the bottom and use a real button bar in the sbs 17.58.22 # JdGordon: With your WPS changes, what will conditionals look like? 17.58.42 # Do you want a special character to separate the condition from the other arguments, or just have them all in there as one big list? 18.05.51 # New commit by 03learman (r26252): Make 'make reconf' remember the use of --ccache and --no-ccache. Only works after the next configure run. 18.06.08 Join Lear [0] (chatzilla@rockbox/developer/lear) 18.11.41 Join joeyg [0] (~apoelstra@S010600236999fec1.vs.shawcable.net) 18.12.35 Quit esperegu (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 18.13.01 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 18.22.29 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3AEC3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.52 Join Buschel_ [0] (~ab@p54A3AEC3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.31.10 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.34.01 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@g229254181.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.34.47 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.39.29 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 18.42.35 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26253): Make PCM->driver interface about as simple as it will get. Registered callback, zero data, alignment and stops are handled entirely inside pcm.c; ... 18.43.46 # jhMikeS: Inverting the meaning of phase should be no problem. As for the top 24 bits I don't know 18.44.06 # Does this optimisation actually speed up things? We do have to wait for the controller anyway... 18.47.43 # On mini g2 the top bits definitely do matter (16 bit data and serial bridge mode; the top halfword defines whether it's command or data) 18.49.36 # amiconn: it seems fine as far as the HW on 3g. I haven't formally tested it for speedup. 18.50.40 # I guess on g2 the you'd have to just clear the top bits, which would save one less instruction in the loop I guess 18.51.35 # what method do you normally use to test it so any comparison can be fair against older benchmarks? 18.52.07 Join flipe [0] (~538ae8c4@giant.haxx.se) 18.52.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LcdFrameRate 18.52.38 # test_fps tests greylib speed as well on the respective targets 18.53.14 # that gets the ISR speed? ah. didn't know that. 18.53.36 # The CPU load is a representation of isr speed 18.53.50 # Faster isr -> lower load 18.54.28 # those commits don't look like we are in a feature freeze much 18.54.33 # Btw, boosting on PP is not (only) necessary due to load, but rather because the lcd controller doesn't like clock chacnges during activity 18.56.35 # activity while scaling is hardly unique to that (recalling aborts if other core wasn't stopped) 18.57.16 # can anybody help me to download and compilate mkamsboot from svn for fuze v2? I need it for install last OF with rockbox 18.57.49 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26254): Cleanup r26253 red and yellow. 18.58.27 # pixelma: getting rid of dangling annoying complications is a bugfix, not adding a feature. :) 18.59.06 Join yelped [0] (~62741e78@giant.haxx.se) 18.59.38 # Can someone SVN this patch please? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11313 19.01.03 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.02.12 # blah, table's so wide now I did see all the junk on the right side :\ 19.02.22 # jhMikeS: depends on how many features... err... bugs it might come with. Changing such a lot of code and low level stuff has some chances I think 19.03.08 # yelped: we are supposed to be feature frozen ubtill we release 3.6 19.04.07 # So, how do I apply it myself? 19.04.17 # see the patch page on the wiki 19.04.36 # i guess that guy with the wma file that doesn't play on the mailing list could be due to a broken ASF file 19.04.52 # if packets were missing or corrupted you'd get random skipping 19.06.12 # It looks like it will take a while. 19.07.12 # pixelma: I checked every supported target (coldfire, pp5020, pp5002, s3c2440) I think that covers it. Is anything new going on into supported status? 19.10.02 # yeah, I knew I was pushing it though...just once. will keep it to bugfixes from now on :) 19.10.28 Quit Schmogel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.11.21 # can someone help me to download and compilate mkamsboot from svn for fuze v2? I need it for install last OF with rockbox 19.13.52 # New commit by 03Buschel (r26255): Correct new memcpy/memset functionality in test_mem plugin. Use appropriate clobber list for arm asm. 19.16.28 Quit yelped (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 19.16.35 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26256): Really cleanup remaining r26253 yellow (hopefully). 19.20.07 # * jhMikeS goes bughunting (already noticed metronome keys don't work correctly now) :\ 19.21.21 # New commit by 03funman (r26257): as3525: be sure all interrupts are disabled when recording 19.23.56 # yeah, the button for play is the same as quit, so you can't make it play on gigf and such (maybe others) 19.24.06 Join captainkewler [0] (~cfed7173@gateway/web/freenode/x-jvhihwjzrwxuuxdk) 19.25.06 # or something...seems to be a button conflict (tap works ok) 19.28.54 Quit flipe (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 19.28.58 # nvm, this time got it to go. :\ 19.29.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.30.26 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.30.27 # saratoga: could you shortly test FS#11309 and give some figures on ARM9? 19.31.30 # is it possible to save the default 'no theme' wps of the clip+ to a wps file ? 19.32.09 # New commit by 03alex (r26258): FS#11269 - Slovak language update by Peter Lecky 19.34.02 # Lang people - I assume the answer to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11311 is yes? 19.35.31 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100513144105]) 19.36.08 # can I use gcc's __builtin_clz() or is there a rockbox clz function somewhere? 19.37.18 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.37.33 # nvm, i see other uses of __builtin_clz so it's ok 19.38.20 Quit steve|m (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.38.26 # funman: not sure what the app is, but there's also find_first_set_bit, but this returns the LSb set 19.39.31 # ah this works too 19.39.38 Quit CIA-6 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.39.43 # lsb is easier than msb, with the help if this special trick to isolate it 19.39.56 # (well, unless the cpu has a clz instructions) 19.40.00 # -s 19.40.27 # fuman: it returns 32 if no bits are set (so bit 0 doesn't alias no bits) 19.40.48 # well bit 0 alias bit 0 ? 19.40.59 # hm nevermind 19.41.16 # of course, and bit 1 aliases bit 1, etc. all the way to 31. :) 19.41.16 # I guess I'll practive my english at devconeuro ;) 19.41.38 Join flipe [0] (~538ae8c4@giant.haxx.se) 19.41.56 # funman: yes, with Germans, Belgians and Swedes :) 19.46.25 # Buschel_: should i test all of those formats 19.47.11 Join CIA-5 [0] (cia@208.69.182.149) 19.48.52 Quit Curtman (Quit: Leaving) 19.53.45 Join steve|m [0] (~steve@p4FD4603E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.54.09 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55110 say the Clip+ battery is 340mAh 19.54.29 Quit jgarvey (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.55.45 # then it can charge at 238mA? (0.7C) ? 19.57.02 # We can control charging current in steps of 50 mA, so that would be 200 mA, although I'd be even more conservative 19.57.12 # iirc it's 55mA steps on as3543 19.57.23 # oh sorry 19.57.31 # saratoga: no, only libmad is of interest 19.58.02 # hm no it's not constant steps 19.58.18 # the actual 150mA setting really is 140mA, we can go to 210mA or 280mA 19.59.04 # OF limits charging to 150mA (and it uses 50mA steps so I guess the code hasn't been updated) 19.59.41 # the initial capacity estimate of 350 mAh for the clip probably wasn't so bad :) 20.00.37 # bertrik: isn't it marked on the clip(v1) battery? 20.00.59 Join bobc [0] (~51972f91@giant.haxx.se) 20.01.20 # can someone help me to download and compilate mkamsboot from svn for fuze v2? I need it for install last OF with rockbox 20.02.04 # amiconn: with the change it says 1/1:149 vs. 1/1:148, and the CPU load says 1% instead of 2% 20.02.22 # 2%? 20.02.30 # funman, no, at least I couldn't find an exact match, so I guessed it by extrapolating from other batteries of similar capacity 20.02.57 # amiconn: that's what test_fps reported on my 3g Load: 2% before, Load: 1% after 20.03.00 # bertrik: hmm i have 2 clipv1 batteries which say 330mAh 20.03.02 # Buschel: i get that lame is very slightly slower 20.03.13 # Did you boost before? 20.03.18 # yes 20.03.23 # Something is not quite right.... 20.03.30 # same for mpc 20.03.33 # cook is no difference 20.03.43 # updated the plugin and the core between patching 20.03.53 # bertrik: should I assume it's the same for all clipv1 and change the capacity in sansaclip.h ? 20.04.08 # I forgot to boost the first time and the plugin reminded me (boost?) :) 20.04.10 # Load with svn should be about the same as on G1/G2 20.04.25 # funman, what I remember is seeing some ATL part number on the package (in photos from a disassembly on ABI IIRC), not an actual capacity printed on the battery 20.04.35 # amiconn: is that too high? 20.04.58 # bertrik: http://anythingbutipod.com/images/forum/dfkt/sansa_clip/battery_replacement/P5170341mod.jpg 20.05.51 # funman, yes, sounds fair. What do you want to say with that picture? 20.05.53 # jhMikeS: Your values almost look like you disabled the actual output 20.06.07 # bertrik: just that there's the ATL marking and no mAh 20.06.08 # it shows the gradient 20.06.11 # Compare with the values for G1/g2 on LcdFrameRate 20.06.27 # jhMikeS: there was a PLA cleanup committed this week. In metronome this could have changed mappings on some targets - in some cases to a slightly less intuitive button (tap and play are on the same button now where play is a long press). This change makes controls work on all targets at least which didn't before although as I said on some other targets a bit harder, still controllable though) 20.06.28 # It's the same controller after all, using the same mode 20.06.33 # ok 20.06.41 # I guess metronome should just not use PLA 20.08.01 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 20.08.36 # pixelma: I dicovered you need really hold that select button to start it on F/X. For some reason, well, I don't know what was going on. It worked when I was very deliberate about it and held it. 20.08.36 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.08.38 # bertrik: http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8356/imgp0489m.jpg 20.08.42 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@203-184-54-232.callplus.net.nz) 20.09.09 # could it be 2 different battery manufacturers? 20.09.35 # the number is the same (363830) 20.10.03 # * amiconn needs to check the plugin whether it still works as intended 20.10.18 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.10.20 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.10.27 # amiconn: I'm watching plasma go right now (inverted since I didn't rebuild it). I think checking the plugin might be a good idea. :) 20.10.57 # Huh? 20.11.09 # Buschel_: perhaps the difference for MP3 is the reordering of mul and load instructions in your recent patch? the original patch alternated between them which I think is faster since the load delay is interleaved with the mul one 20.11.14 # If you only inverted the phase, this shouldn't cause any visible difference 20.11.20 # amiconn: it needs a complementary phase array 20.11.30 Quit flipe (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.11.34 Join flipe [0] (~538ae8c4@giant.haxx.se) 20.12.48 # New commit by 03funman (r26261): Clipv1 battery capacity is 330mAh 20.12.52 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 20.13.02 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@klient-88-135-170-135.StrefaWiFi.kolnet.eu) 20.13.03 # black needs to set the "sign" bit most quickly (because the controller inverts) 20.13.12 Join Luca_S [0] (~57064f47@giant.haxx.se) 20.13.18 # funman, the 363830 indicates the battery's dimensions, so maybe that could be the same even when from different manufacturers. The other number is also the same, I can't imagine that these numbers would both be the same for two different manufacturers 20.14.31 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.16.13 # flipe: What OS are you using? 20.17.00 # according to ABI disassembly the Clip+ battery is 290mAh not 340 20.20.46 # funman, I have find new mkamsboot.c , how can I get mkamsboot.exe? 20.20.46 Quit bobc (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.20.48 Join mitk [0] (~mitk@chello089078013092.chello.pl) 20.21.54 # flipe: better wait next release of RockboxUtility. It's easy to brick your player if you don't know what you are doing 20.21.55 # hmmm, my commit seems to have hung 20.23.00 # also 'svn update' takes a very long time here for me 20.23.31 # AlexP: yes, the translator should prefferably translate the new strings added since the last translation update :) 20.23.31 # n1s: I suspected so :) 20.23.33 # I tried to post a comment but FS threw an error in my face 20.23.34 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.23.40 # typical. When I decide "doesn't matter if I send the mail an hour later or not" then things happen where I think "ok, maybe it would have been better if I had sent before" :\ 20.24.10 # this is about the translation updates and a string change I want to ask about getting it in for the release 20.25.51 # flyspray etc. seems down too 20.25.51 # can't reach rockbox.org at all 20.25.51 # AlexP: stop breaking rockbox.org please! 20.25.51 # We are ahead of schedule! 20.25.51 # damn 20.25.51 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.25.51 # funman: It wasn't me, it was the catalan translation 20.25.51 # New commit by 03alex (r26262): FS#11293 - Catalan language update by Adrián Cereto Massagué 20.25.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK AlexP 20.25.51 # Which is half way through committing 20.25.52 # I think it was commit ddos 20.25.52 # aha 20.25.52 # amiconn: the patch (just made to work with this and using blue noise to randomize phases): http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/grey-lib-fewer-instructions-or-3g.diff 20.25.52 # ok, I will continue with new rockbox and 2.2.26 OF 20.26.04 Quit CGL (Remote host closed the connection) 20.27.04 # or is that purple noise (differentiated white noise) 20.28.21 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 20.28.42 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 20.33.04 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.33.08 Quit flipe (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.34.14 # jhMikeS: is this look ok to you? -> http://pastebin.com/Uati6PEd 20.35.01 # b0hoon: was to fix after removing r12 save? if so, it looks right 20.35.39 # jhMikeS: yes that's it 20.35.52 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.36.00 # New commit by 03alex (r26263): Ooops, forgot CREDITS. 20.36.04 # huh 20.36.09 # How did that work? 20.36.25 # hrm...svn is up but not rockbox.org? 20.36.28 # *main site 20.36.47 # I set it off about 15 minutes ago 20.37.43 # ah, the new commit debounce delay 20.38.20 Join Zagor_ [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 20.40.39 # New commit by 03funman (r26264): manual: wake up alarm buttons for Clip and Fuze keymaps 20.40.43 # the Wake-Up Alarm section in main_menu/main.tex looks outdated: I think rockbox doesn't power off anymore when validating the settings 20.41.40 # not since r5818 20.41.46 # funman, 330 mAh capacity and about 11 hours runtime means about 30 mA current for ogg playback, not bad :) I think this has improved quite a bit compared to a year ago 20.41.58 # funman: it should on the archoses still or else it won't work afaiu 20.42.04 # 11 hours ? i get 8 hours for mp3 playback :/ 20.42.48 # n1s: then it doesn't work since r5818 ? 20.43.01 # i can't see power_off() in alarm_menu.c or rtc drivers 20.43.08 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.ntl.com) 20.43.23 # maybe the archos user(s) haven't noticed 20.43.57 # or i'm dead wrong and the manual is just outdated 20.43.57 Join mikroflops_ [0] (~yogurt@90-224-31-157-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 20.44.39 # hm in this commit the string "Shutting Down.." was changed to "Alarm Set" so I guess it wasn't needed anymor 20.45.12 # Zagor: Build server kicked me with: "Fatal build error: Missing log file. 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Just fyi. 20.45.33 # yeah, we're having a slight server snafu 20.47.23 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.49.44 # New commit by 03funman (r26265): manual: make the wake-up alarm entry up to date with the current code 20.51.35 Quit storm` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.54.04 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.54.29 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 20.55.38 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 20.56.50 Quit captainkewler (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.57.13 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r26266): fix YUV Dither for the other targets too, like in r26064. 20.58.09 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 20.58.39 # hrm...that dither code's really made its way around the tree 20.59.06 # nls: I think scrob in FS#11311 asked about "This phrase below was not present in the translated file" string itself so answer should be "no" IMHO. 21.00.07 # n1s: ^^ 21.00.28 # how long should a mail take until it appears in the ml? :| 21.00.28 # surely it should be possible to macro the pixel-write part and avoid so much duplication ?? 21.00.58 # pixelma: At the moment, ages 21.01.24 # There is/was something up with the mail servers 21.01.37 # AlexP: could you slow down your translation updates a bit? ;) 21.01.43 # pixelma: I have stopped the mail server. we're clogged up with spam right now. 21.01.51 # pixelma: sure :) 21.02.10 # argh 21.02.46 # the one time I write to the list :( 21.03.06 # No smoke without fire! 21.04.25 # no fire without oxygen 21.07.32 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.08.32 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.08.42 # saratoga: thanks for testing. My patch should do the same as your first re-ordering. Is there a difference? 21.08.55 # saratoga: (talking of libmad) 21.09.45 Quit mitk (Quit: Leaving) 21.10.27 # Didn't we have a convention for commit comments, something like Flyspray: FS #XXXXX and Author: YYY (each on a single line) ? 21.11.34 # did we? 21.11.53 # It was proposed and discussed 21.11.53 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 21.11.53 # * GodEater is now the proud(?) owner of one less tooth than he had this morning =/ 21.12.11 # I think so, to identify regular contributors more easily (and possibly automated) 21.12.22 # Is it documented anywhere> 21.12.24 # and in the wrong channel too :) 21.12.37 # (contributors that are not committers yet) 21.12.49 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.12.54 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@200.189.204-77.rev.gaoland.net) 21.13.53 # saratoga: just checked. there is no change in the order of mul/ldr... what is the difference between svn and my patch? 21.13.59 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.15.46 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 21.15.57 # Buschel: I take it the iPod thing cleared up? I checked the sim and it seemed ok, with proper menu display. 21.16.24 # saratoga: to speak more clear -> there is no difference in the ordering when I compare your initial patch with my last one 21.16.41 # jhMikeS: yes. I have closed the bug report. works for me now :o) 21.16.53 # great! 21.17.58 # AlexP, I do find a reference to a formal commit template in the DevConEuro2009 summary, but no other documentation about it 21.18.22 # we should publicise it then :) 21.18.43 # I was at DevCon2009, so I must have been part of the discussion 21.18.45 # There's a mailing list thread about it 21.18.55 # But had clearly completely forgotten :) 21.19.02 # * jhMikeS should see what that libmad patch does on arm11 21.19.14 # On UsingSVN would seem a good place, where it tells you how to commit and stuff 21.21.47 Quit jgarvey (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.23.09 Nick Buschel_ is now known as Buschel (~ab@p54A3AEC3.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.23.14 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.23.36 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 21.23.38 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.23.40 # gevaerts, bertrik: Looks like a format was never agreed, just people thought it was a good idea in general 21.24.28 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 21.24.32 # AlexP: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2009-07/0106.shtml and further is the closest 21.24.39 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r26267): manual: add a forgotten note about reseting settings for the vibe 500. 21.24.48 # yeah, I just read that 21.25.23 # Buschel: sorry, you're right 21.25.25 # i must have misread 21.25.31 # i'm not sure why the difference 21.25.32 # jhMikeS: Hmm, interesting trick 21.25.50 # I wonder whether this can be "inverted" so that it works the right way round 21.27.11 # saratoga: what is the difference? in MHz? 21.27.15 Part watto 21.27.55 # Buschel: about 150kHz 21.28.13 # basically the same as the original patch was supposed to save, except slower rather then faster 21.28.29 # amiconn: I couldn't without using mvn to invert it afterwords, lemme think, would subtracting instead of adding do it? 21.28.31 # saratoga: strange. did you re-test your initial patch? 21.29.16 # Buschel: i haven't had a chance, but at the time i did several repeats and the results were consistent 21.29.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.29.32 # ok 21.29.33 # jhMikeS: I'm thinking about bic/and 21.31.37 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.34.46 # amiconn: I just wanted as much out of the loop as possible and inverting made it simple but if there is a way... 21.35.25 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.36.28 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 21.37.15 # * jhMikeS should fix (somthing mentioned) in FS#10474 since if the tuner is disabled, you can't communcate with it to tune it. 21.39.48 # * amiconn also wonders whether this trick would also work on cf 21.40.00 # ...or sh1 21.41.38 # Maybe there's a mul trick 21.41.49 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 21.42.06 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@2002:1876:a27b:0:227:13ff:fe65:1262) 21.42.35 # mul trick? 21.42.45 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 21.46.07 # On cf... of course not on arm 21.46.53 Quit halmi_ (Quit: halmi_) 21.47.06 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.47.52 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 21.48.08 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r26268): Vibe 500: fix the scrolling through the lists by implementing BUTTON_REPEAT for the scrollstrip. 21.48.15 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 21.53.42 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.55.27 # Apparently flyspray is bugging out if you try to close a task at the moment 21.56.11 # The tasks do close, at least. 22.01.00 Join zorink [0] (~6d4d0dfd@giant.haxx.se) 22.01.46 Quit zorink (Client Quit) 22.06.30 Join Blue_Dude [0] (~chatzilla@rockbox/developer/Blue-Dude) 22.06.31 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 22.07.06 # I wanted to reask a question that wasn't answered earlier: should we be propagating deprecated strings to translation lang files? 22.07.33 # no 22.08.13 # Llorean: a task you watched? Or maybe in general, Zagor said he took down the mailing lists due to a spam attack and if flyspray wants to send out notification mails, it might get sime trouble 22.09.01 # Well there sure have been a lot of deprecated strings being passed verbatim to translation langs lately. 22.09.29 # Blue_Dude: that's completely unnecessary, but they don't do any harm either 22.09.55 # Bagder: Maybe, but why copy them over to begin with? 22.10.14 # lack of knowledge I guess 22.10.37 # genlang will do it for you 22.10.41 # pixelma: Yeah, the error message mentions SMTP so I imagine it's to do with mail notifications 22.11.06 # We're going to branch, when? Still on the 27th? 22.11.47 Quit Buschel () 22.12.12 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26269): Si4700 tuner: It doesn't like to do i2c while powered off and hangs the bus. Make 'pause' simply be 'mute', allowing tuning during user mute as well ... 22.12.42 # I'd like to nuke the dead strings in the lang files and force a voice rebuild for v3.6. It's been a long time coming. 22.13.37 # n1s wanted to do that after the release 22.15.11 # Why after? 22.15.48 # perhaps that should always be a pre-release housecleaning? 22.16.49 # That's what I was thinking. 22.16.59 Part Llorean 22.17.34 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 22.18.37 Join Lear [0] (chatzilla@rockbox/developer/lear) 22.20.41 # jhMikeS: Hm, just upgraded and got a "freezing" rewind almost immediately (I could still stop and shutdown so not a full freeze). Not easily repeatable. 22.20.58 # which target? 22.21.08 # e200. 22.21.40 # Blue_Dude: i think it's nicer to break stuff after release 22.21.44 # odd, I just checked and got one myself. (gigabeat S) 22.21.54 # * Blue_Dude shrugs. 22.22.00 # It could be one of those rare playback.c glitches, but it did happen just now. :) 22.22.41 # it just happened to me on my first try? hmmm... 22.23.00 # The WPS stays in a rewind state? 22.23.05 # Lear: I had something like that happen yesterday (pre-svn update). 22.23.26 # now I can't duplicate :\ 22.23.35 # Lear: hard lock (watchdog cut power) 22.23.58 # I was playing the radio first for awhile, then went to playback 22.24.06 # No radio here. 22.24.45 Quit Blue_Dude (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 22.25.13 # Flyspray comments aren't working, so I just posted a patch at http://filehost.bieberphoto.com/patch that adds my completed (or at least I think it's complete) WPS parser for JdGordon's new WPS format 22.26.07 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 22.26.41 # It only has a handful of tags in its tag table (and they're made up for testing purposes), but you can add new ones easily enough to test it. Anyone who wants to, play with it and see if you can get it to break 22.27.27 # Lear: hmmm, nothing really changed functionally in pcm, just moving something "up". I'll stare at it. 22.28.15 # two *very* different hardware, and I can't bloody do it again! :) 22.29.48 # I did rolo beforehand however 22.30.14 # * bluebroth3r thinks that for(/*NO INIT*/;...) looks weird 22.30.17 # jhMikeS, I thought the problem with the si4700 was that it was hanging in the tune loop when the radio is powered down, rather than i2c not working 22.30.57 # bieber: why not use a while loop instead? Looks more straighforward to me for such a case (though it's only cosmetics) 22.31.27 # Will do 22.31.46 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-235-218-dynip.superkabel.de) 22.31.47 # I was afraid that one might look a little clunky 22.32.02 # well, I have to admit that I like while loops better in general :) 22.32.20 # There's a few of those in there, too ;) 22.32.30 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 22.32.35 # bertrik: that probably would happen if the i2c wasn't quite working. I couldn't tell if it was timing out in the driver and looping or just looping. 22.32.44 # Would it be worth splitting generic_parser.c up into multiple files? Towards the end it was getting a little cumbersome to dig through 22.32.51 # *the i2c driver that is, which give 1s to finish 22.33.22 Quit GeekShad0w (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 22.34.29 # in any case, that mean STC wouldn't go high or can't be read. safe to say it didn't like it and works fine just muted. 22.36.46 # bluebroth3r: Was email on the haxx.se server also lost when the site/mailing list went down? I emailed the address that was listed for SVN access last week, but haven't heard back from him yet 22.37.07 # Lear: which e200? I have v1 and it's all good here. 22.37.18 # v1 too. 22.37.25 # bieber: sorry, it's just been delayed due to the mess we've had. I'll get to it as soon as possible 22.37.39 # Okay, thanks 22.38.00 # * bluebroth3r too slow :o 22.38.06 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Going home.) 22.38.14 # jhMikeS, ok. Does it still fully turn off the tuner when exiting the radio screen? Not doing so could cost a lot of unnecessary current consumption (about 15 mA IIRC) 22.38.21 # Too slow? 22.38.22 Part b0hoon ("GTG. Bye.") 22.38.54 # too slow answering. Bagder was faster :) 22.39.04 # Ah 22.39.50 # bertrik: not unless we make it 22.40.02 # do we indent preprocessor macros in Rockbox? I can't remember having seen that before. 22.40.09 # (in Rockbox code that is) 22.41.18 # Oh, I guess I did indent a couple 22.41.50 # I don't think we have a clear rule on that 22.42.36 # most often we don't at least 22.43.06 # a general reason for not indenting preprocessor statements is that some compilers require the # to be in row 0. Stuff like "# if(foo)" is ok for those. However, this doesn't affect us as we're gcc only 22.43.46 # so I won't object against indenting preprocessor statements, though IMO they are more readable if not indented. 22.43.58 # * bluebroth3r waits for someone to propose a rule :) 22.44.07 # bertrik: I'm sure there's a better way to go that that, but what it is now is better than freezeup (and 15mA? bad, but not horrible on serveral-hundred mAh battery no?) 22.44.38 # I'd vote for unindented 22.45.30 # jhMikeS, it might already work correctly as it is now in SVN 22.45.38 # * jhMikeS thinks they can be more readable in certain cases if indented at the same level at their local block 22.45.49 # but 15 mA is quite a lot, that's half of the normal playing current 22.46.07 # i think indented preprocessor stuff *looks* weird but i think that's just because i'm not used to it, it is a fair deal easier to read in the real #ifdef hellholes 22.47.45 # bertrik: what does? You're right though, how could you turn it on if i2c was hanging? :P haha must just not set STC in that state 22.48.01 # Is there a problem with pcm audio in the simulator or is the problem with me ? 22.48.19 # * jhMikeS was using it earlier 22.48.56 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 22.49.22 # jhMikeS, I meant that the si4700 is still powered down when the radio is stopped 22.49.54 # bertrik: yeah, when you do "off", but not for "pause" only 22.49.58 # because you only modified radio_pause, so all is still well I think 22.50.07 # right 22.50.32 # it sees "2" and knows it not actually to go full off 22.50.50 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.51.39 # the other tuners treat anything not 0 as simple "true" 22.51.49 Join solexx [0] (~jrschulz@e176114091.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.52.20 # Um, a purple L just came over to visit in in the DoD. polytrap? 22.52.52 # The wiki says, the only appear in Gehennom. 22.52.58 # solexx: I don't know but it sounds like Sesame street 22.53.00 # s/the/they 22.53.23 # jhMikeS: Darn, wrong channel. :-/ 22.54.37 # bertrik: wait, wtf, you were thinking I left it on all the time? 22.55.19 # jhMikeS, yeah, sorry, I actually thought that before checking the code and your changes ... 22.55.52 Quit bieber (Remote host closed the connection) 22.56.11 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 22.59.12 Join Silverwolf [0] (~4395bf6a@giant.haxx.se) 23.02.18 # it's left on when you exit paused, yes 23.05.14 Quit Silverwolf (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.10.28 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100513144105]) 23.11.01 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 23.15.41 # * kugel also thinks that r26253 shouldn't have been committed during the freeze 23.15.50 # unless it fixes any known bugs, does it? 23.18.06 # depends on what "known" and "bugs" means 23.18.59 # e.g. something on flyspray 23.19.01 # fixes unknown bugs would be a bit of a surprise 23.19.35 Quit jgarvey (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.19.41 # yes, I pushed it...but if TPTB command, I'll revert and wait on it. 23.21.09 # TPTB? 23.21.09 # The Powers That Be 23.27.59 Join japc [0] (~japc@bl7-255-132.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.28.00 Join japc_ [0] (~japc@bl7-255-132.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.29.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.30.58 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzzz) 23.32.21 Quit pamaury (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.32.48 # jhMikeS: I think inverting is possible with just one changed instruction... 23.34.23 # amiconn: you mean normal phase, but inverting the outcome? 23.37.16 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.29) 23.37.47 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 23.37.55 # jhMikeS: http://pastebin.com/SWMNmEhc 23.38.43 Quit k-rad (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.40.42 Quit Zagor_ (Quit: Clint excited) 23.40.53 # aha 23.41.04 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 23.42.33 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.43.10 # I am wondering about the changed noise init 23.43.43 # incidental really. I was just experimenting with filtering out low frequencies in the rand function 23.45.08 # Does it cause any visible change? I wouldn't expect any... 23.45.31 Quit bertrik (Quit: De groeten) 23.51.57 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 23.52.41 Join Curtman [0] (~curt@S010600248c269238.wp.shawcable.net) 23.54.04 Quit mt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.54.36 # jhMikeS: recording is broken on clip+ 23.56.04 # amiconn: i think the formula is wrong and it needs/2 first or it just goes right be to white noise. I have to check it properly. 23.56.19 # funman: it could be, yes 23.56.26 # I think it doesn't matter at all 23.58.24 # amiconn: probably not since it likely just gets randomized again as pixels change 23.58.31 # Yes, exactly