--- Log for 03.06.110 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 8 hours ago 00.02.10 Quit Jerom (Remote host closed the connection) 00.02.35 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 00.04.03 # Buschel: I am editing cos_table.c now. You may try and look into the sound quality (pdpod_test.pd uses it, for example, through the osc~ object). 00.08.01 # btw, why do some files end with ~? Is there a reason for that? 00.08.39 # wincent_balin: great, my editor will be very thankful :) 00.09.03 Quit pamaury (Quit: exit(rand());) 00.09.44 # bluebroth3r: Objects ending with ~ work with audio (meaning: not control) signals. 00.10.26 # lua doesn't have directories functions (like opendir). "Programming in Lua" has a C example but I can't find any licence, only "Copyright XXX - All rights reserved" 00.11.41 # http://keplerproject.github.com/luafilesystem/ is probably more interesting 00.14.16 # I would like to double maximal size of an uploadable file in the Wiki. Who do I have to speak to? 00.17.29 Quit bertrik (Quit: De groeten) 00.17.38 # good night guys! 00.17.40 Quit Buschel () 00.31.00 Quit Zagor_ (Quit: Clint excited) 00.33.02 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 00.44.48 Quit halmi (Quit: halmi) 00.46.16 Quit ender` (Quit: With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC1925) 01.15.58 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 01.19.08 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.26.14 # New commit by 03wincent (r26496): pdbox: Syntax cleanup for the cosine table. 01.28.39 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.30.51 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 01.31.08 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-210-229-221.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 01.31.31 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 01.32.11 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-214-233.cust.bredband2.com) 01.33.37 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.35.40 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.36.50 Part toffe82 01.36.53 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.76) 01.38.32 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 01.40.58 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 01.41.21 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@89.142.81.78) 01.42.38 Quit moparx (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.45.43 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.50.06 Quit intrados (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.53.35 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.58.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.24 Quit guymann (Quit: bye) 02.12.18 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.22.48 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 02.25.33 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.26.51 Quit puetzk (Client Quit) 02.31.07 Join kio [0] (~kio@38.98.68.19) 02.35.00 # hi, when I mount my sansa_e280v2 on my linux desktop, I can't see the microsdhc card, but when I boot the player, I would see something like from the files menu, how can i see that when connecting with the usb? currently I have to take the card out, use the usb controler and copy files there. Many thanks in advance 02.37.36 # mcuelenaere: FS#11347 - *dir LUA functions 02.38.40 # kio: the OF (Original Firmware) can't read SDHC cards, only SD 02.39.09 # update your build and bootloader so USB connection will run on rockbox, not the OF 02.39.15 # New commit by 03wincent (r26497): pdbox: Source cleanup. Removed unneeded files. 02.39.21 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 02.45.10 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-174-49-112-244.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 02.45.34 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-049-088.pools.arcor-ip.net) 02.49.10 # ok, thanks funman 02.53.42 # Ignore my last request. 02.59.07 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26498): FFT plugin: Use worker thread only on multiprocessor targets. 03.01.03 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03.13.32 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 03.17.42 Quit steve|m (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.28.31 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.31.43 Join steve|m [0] (~steve@p4FD441E0.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.32.05 Quit mc2739 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.37.33 # huzzah. per-track album art does indeed work as expected. now I just need to get that wps made 03.38.53 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26499): FFT plugin: give everything in the main file a nice 'static'-ing. Saves approx. 1-3K size depending upon the target and so should speed it up a bit. 03.49.36 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 03.54.42 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 03.55.13 Quit moparx (Remote host closed the connection) 03.58.06 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 03.58.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.06.16 Quit Don_Roberto (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.25.52 Quit kio (*.net *.split) 04.25.52 Quit detaos (*.net *.split) 04.25.53 Quit soap (*.net *.split) 04.25.53 Quit xavieran (*.net *.split) 04.25.53 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 04.25.53 Quit lostlogic (*.net *.split) 04.28.18 Join kio [0] (~kio@38.98.68.19) 04.28.18 Join detaos [0] (~quassel@ip72-218-104-242.hr.hr.cox.net) 04.28.18 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.28.18 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-36-34.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 04.28.18 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 04.28.18 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 04.31.54 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.34.22 # New commit by 03wincent (r26500): pdbox: Added keypad for iPod 1G-4G. Reordered SOURCES alphabetically. 04.35.25 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.35.25 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.35.29 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.35.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.35.45 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.35.53 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.36.44 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.42.48 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590ffe15.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.44.09 Quit Barahir (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.45.44 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-237-113-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 05.01.18 Join sheerz [0] (~jacob@adsl-219-180-36.asm.bellsouth.net) 05.04.14 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.05.51 # New commit by 03wincent (r26501): pdbox: Added compilation on iPod 1G-4G. 05.09.28 Quit moparx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.19.17 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 05.27.33 # Is anyone able to tell me why it is that "make voice" isn't smart enough to do "nothing to be done for `all` "? 05.27.49 # It would cut the time of my build script dramatically. 05.28.16 # New commit by 03wincent (r26502): pdbox: Fixing reds. 05.29.50 # Because I mess around with patches quite a lot, my voice files often change so I included building voice files in my build script, but it's kinda annoying when nothing has changed and it still builds voice files anyway. 05.43.39 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.207.22) 05.49.09 Quit wincent_balin (Quit: Verlassend) 05.55.17 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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(50FPS) 06.24.12 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@f050153099.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.24.44 Quit wincent (Changing host) 06.24.44 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/wincent) 06.45.13 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.46.19 Join AlexP [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 06.48.14 Join LinusN [0] (linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 06.51.55 Quit sheerz (Quit: Not again!) 06.52.46 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 06.54.31 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCABBE.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.57.12 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.17.22 Join literal [0] (hinrik@109.74.193.250) 07.18.41 # I'm using the latest rockbox build for the Sansa Clip+ and the "Now Playing" screen looks a bit off. The artist name is a bit too high up, so the top of it is in the yellow area where the song title is. 07.18.58 # Can this be worked around? 07.19.30 # literal: which WPS and font are you using? 07.19.33 # literal: go to the theme site and pick another wps 07.20.00 # This is from a fresh install, no theme settings changed. The font is rockfont, I believe. 07.20.25 # I'll take a look at the theme site. 07.20.56 # FlynDice: No offence man, but that's hardly a fix. 07.21.25 # If Cabbie is broken, it needs fixing. 07.21.31 # +V2 07.21.39 # Yeah, cabbiev2 is the one I'm using. 07.21.48 # ding ding ding I hear a volunteer..!!! 07.22.44 # is it possible to do a slider-like progress bar instead of a, well, progressbar-style progress bar? 07.22.50 # ...if that made any sense whatsoever 07.23.31 # Dhraakellian: Could you clarify that a little please? 07.23.36 # an image with a pointer of some sort vs. an image that gets filled up by another image 07.23.42 # literal: I can reccomend yellow bar dynamic or DFKT minimum 07.23.53 # Ahhhh, I see. Not with current code. 07.24.09 # Dhraakellian: ^ 07.24.20 # okay, what I'll probably do is put per-track album art above and/or below the progress bar 07.24.28 # the screenshot of DFKT minimun looks pretty cramped/crowded 07.24.55 # I like how iPlayer looks, though 07.24.57 # I changed to a different font & lke it very much 07.25.05 # like it even 07.26.58 # literal: Can you please send me a screenshot of the busted WPS? 07.27.06 # do you know how to enable screendump? 07.27.16 # (in the debug menu) 07.27.27 # Probably...wait 07.27.52 # Ok, enabled. How do I take a screenshot? 07.27.57 # go to debug, screendump, enable it, then plug in the dock connector. 07.28.05 # Ah 07.28.20 # it will dump an image, retrieve it from the root of the player and post it somewhere 07.28.32 # it will help me to adjust what needs adjusting. 07.28.57 # (I suggest imgur.com) 07.29.02 # Of course. 07.29.31 # Oh well, the original firmware wants to update its DB first... 07.29.55 # Make sure to turn screendump off when you're finished to avoid all sorts of pissing yourself off if you happen to forget about it :P 07.30.31 # * S_a_i_n_t does that all the time and is like "Dammit, why. wont. you. mount!" 07.30.35 # is there some trick to circumvent the DB update on the original firmware, since I'm not using it anymore? 07.30.57 Join Draftman [0] (~draft2008@77.242.109.1) 07.31.08 # remove uSD card 07.31.16 # hi 07.31.20 # whos there? 07.31.30 # S_a_i_n_t: http://imgur.com/749Qj.png 07.31.41 # Draftman: If you have a question, just ask it. 07.31.55 # literal: Thanks, it will be a big help. 07.32.07 # I will do the work on the WPS sometime tonight. 07.32.11 # mm, is a channel of questions and answers, right? 07.32.37 # Draftman: About Rockbox, yes. 07.32.38 # * Dhraakellian also wonders whether it'd be possible to display regular album art (eg. folder.jpg) alongside per-track album art (220x5 moodbar bmp) 07.32.47 # * Dhraakellian just needs to read the wps page, probably 07.33.17 # Dhraakellian: IIRC, it isn't possible. 07.33.45 # hmm... how about multiple copies of the same albumart? 07.33.46 Part Draftman 07.33.48 # S_a_i_n_t: some other themes also include bits which cross the blue/yellow boundary, but I guess that's to be expected? i.e. they're not all designed with the Clip+ in mind... 07.34.02 # It will only allow one instance of AA, though you can display it multiple times onscreen...it has to be the same image. 07.34.11 # (from my experiments at least) 07.34.19 # because that would affect how big I render stuff 07.34.27 # okay 07.35.32 # literal: Other themes I don;t really care about to be honest, it'd be up to the author to update them...but the fact that CabbieV2 is the "face" of Rockbox (the default theme), it needs to be fixed. 07.35.46 # I see 07.38.05 # S_a_i_n_t: Be sure to check your changes with clipv1/v2. Cabbie may display correctly on those. I don't have one of those so I can't check.... 07.39.27 # Hmmm, they have the same screen size yes? I think the themesite needs to be sorted by target rather than screensize. 07.40.06 # I mean, I know it *is* sorted by target, but themes that have the same dimensions end up in targets not intended for them specifically...it's kinda stupid. 07.43.54 # Perhaps that could be a (rather late I know) additional topic for DevCon. 07.44.34 # I know the theme site will be discussed re: Skin Break Branch stuff & what to do about it and RButil etc. 07.45.32 # So, grouping of the themes would be able to be discussed also I'msure. The current method works, but not very well now that there are multiple targets sharing the same screen dimensions. 07.46.02 # Is it possible to somehow exclude audiobooks/podcasts? Like, say, if I want to play a random music track, I go to Database->Artist->Random or something, but that includes audiobooks and podcasts too... 07.46.18 # I'm wondering what everyone would like to see from the Theme Editor in terms of syntax highlighting? 07.46.37 # literal: Make a playlist manually. 07.46.55 # that would be the easiest way IIUC 07.47.36 # I see there's something there called "Custom view", how does that work? Nothing happens if I select it 07.47.57 # Would be great if I could specify something like "where genre != soundtrack && genre != podcast" 07.47.57 # bieber: (IMO) Tags one colour, seperators another, containers for conditionals another...? 07.48.17 # When you say containers, you mean the <>? 07.48.34 # literal: Custom View is for a custom tagnavi config file IIRC 07.48.45 # See the wiki re: tagnavi.custom 07.49.00 # bieber: Yep 07.49.14 # I've also considered highlighting the contents of conditionals: would that interest you, or do you think it would just get in the way? 07.49.37 # Hmmmm, nah. I think it would look weird. 07.49.53 # I'd just like to see the containers, seperators, and tags clearly. 07.50.01 # The wiki has no "tagnavi" or "tagnavi.custom" articles 07.50.15 # literal: One sec, I'll find it for you. 07.50.17 # And then to make things a little more ridiculous, I've been thinking about making conditional interiors highlighted one color, and then darkening the color each time you get into another nested conditional :P 07.50.54 # Realistically, though, I'm thinking just highlighting key elements will work better 07.51.06 # Hmmmmm, I guess a nested conditional needs to be highlighted seperately from a conditional...correct. 07.51.21 # I wouldn;t say ridiculous...but, it's your party ;) 07.52.08 # S_a_i_n_t: you mean this? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DataBase#tagnavi_config_v2_0_Syntax 07.53.22 # I *think* that may be it. 07.53.53 # it's been a while since I looked at it. I seem to remember there being a seperate page for tagnavi.custom though...which included examples. 07.54.26 # yeah, that's the one. 07.54.37 # Look further toward the bottom. 07.54.46 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 07.54.46 # ok 07.55.06 # FlynDice: all clip screens are the same (2 pixels separation between blue & yellow) 07.55.08 # there is even an example that seperates podcasts...isn;t that what you wanted? Or did you want everything *but* podcasts? 07.55.41 # funman: Do they all use the same WPS? 07.55.43 # I assume so? 07.55.44 # S_a_i_n_t: check with pixelma before making cabbie changes, i think the 128x64x1 version is used on other targets. 07.55.51 # Everything except audiobooks and podcasts. I.e. music. 07.56.01 # afaik yes WPS selection is only based on screen size/depth 07.56.13 # Regarding the ReplayGain settings, there's "Track gain", "Album gain" and "Track gain if shuffling". Why no "Track gain when shuffling, album gain otherwise" ? 07.56.37 # funman: So cabbie displays the ame on clipv1/v2 with the line through the tops of the letters? 07.56.42 # literal: Because noone has implemented it? ;) 07.56.51 # you're free to submit a patch ;) 07.57.04 # I'll see what I can do. 07.57.09 # C code? 07.57.20 # yeah 07.57.27 # i think it's only one pixel off 07.57.48 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.57.54 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 07.58.05 # funman: Looks to be two px off to me, but I don't even know if it supports viewports or not. 07.58.27 # I'm not at my dev-PC at the moment, I can't check it until later tonight 07.58.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.59.02 # You've gotta be kidding me. Qt actually has a syntax highlighter class 07.59.07 # it may need to skip a whole line to fix it with the current WPS code, or be converted to viewport. (which is the eventual intention) 07.59.13 # Soooo...where's the code repository? 08.00.08 # svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk 08.00.08 # funman, S_a_i_n_t: yes and no for SVN WPSs. There you have the possibikity to add a "-target" to the screen size parameters in the name - and this is actually done for the Clip. Monochrome screens support viewports 08.00.11 # Ah, git://git.rockbox.org/rockbox 08.00.30 # possibility too 08.01.01 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 08.01.22 # pixelma: So, it should only be the clip/+ with this error? 08.01.34 # I don;t have the targets...so I can't check it. 08.02.18 # Hmmmm...no, they all would have the same error if they use the same WPS *duh* 08.02.20 # I didn't see the start of the discussion 08.02.23 # (don;t mind me) 08.02.51 # the track title is halfway in the yellow, halfway in the blue 08.02.56 # S_a_i_n_t: the sim should reflect the screen accurately 08.03.07 # I need to drop it down at least 2px to make it work right. 08.03.12 Join Zigtown [0] (~Zigtown@CPE00259ce0fdb2-CM0014f8cc807a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 08.03.23 # and that's with the included cabbiev2? 08.03.31 # yes 08.03.35 # bieber: that sounds like a good thing? :D 08.03.43 # can you add line numbers to the text box? 08.03.45 # It's an amazingly good thing 08.04.26 # I remember that bertrik made a version especially for the clip, so I can't imagine that... maybe he chose a different font (size)? 08.04.39 # And yeah, I'll do that too. I'll see if my luck continues and I can find an enableLineNumbering() function or somesuch 08.04.50 # literal: Are you using the default font? 08.04.56 # pixelma: nope it's how cabbiev2 looks like on clips, grep CLIP /wps shows nothing 08.05.15 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.05.30 # funman: So it *is* the same on yours? 08.05.31 # i do'nt think fonts change this because the still text starts from the same line 08.05.32 # cabbiev2.128x64x1.sansaclip.wps 08.05.39 # half yellow/half blue? 08.05.46 # S_a_i_n_t: Yeah, rockfont 08.05.50 # maybe the target rename broke it... 08.05.58 # hm perhaps it works on clipv1 then 08.06.27 # Well, I'll submit a change later on tonight and someone can review it... 08.06.40 # (unless it's just a simple matter of renaming things) 08.06.42 # the WPS is there 08.07.24 # iiuc we just need to copy it for clipv2/clip+ 08.07.47 # From what I can see, dropping the track info viewport down by 2px will fix it up nicely 08.08.02 # funman: if you understand perl, maybe you can fix the wpsbuild.pl so the right version will be included 08.08.07 # but again, if it was just a rename that broke it...it's even easier. 08.08.58 # it looks fine in clipv1 sim, testing clipv2.. 08.09.31 # S_a_i_n_t: there is a WPS in SVN that is made especially for the Clip's screen and does not have to be changed. It seems that the problem is that the Ckip+ and Clipv2 don't include the right version 08.10.33 # funman: I got the bench result, 6h (down from 9h), but that might be because the lcd hung and I didn't want to abort the bench so I left it running anyway. Currently recharging. 08.11.16 # ranma: thanks, got your email; fuzev1 is still running I should have the results in 2 hours or alike 08.11.17 # JdGordon: It looks like line numbers are doable, but something of a pain, so I'll probably do it towards the end of my work on the GUI after everything else is functional 08.11.35 # Hm, does Rockbox not support variable playback speed like the Clip+'s original firmware? 08.11.50 # For audiobooks and such 08.11.57 # pixelma: Do you think there is a need for rearranging the themesite to sort by target name only (this would fix themes with the same screen dimensions ending up in target categories they were not necessarily intended for). 08.12.19 # literal: Check "Pitch Screen" in the manual 08.12.27 # S_a_i_n_t: http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/414/clipx.png 08.12.28 # there is a pitch and a timestretch option (the latter needs to be enabled befor though) 08.12.35 # not sure if it is implemented for that target or not though. 08.12.42 # Ok 08.12.51 # but rockbox *does* support variable pitch/speed. 08.13.01 # literal: yes pitch screen is present in clip+ 08.15.42 # funman: Why on earth doesn't the ClipV2 use the same version as the Clip? 08.15.51 # the V2's WPS is AWFUL 08.16.15 # Clip's looks *way* better IMO 08.16.57 # S_a_i_n_t: selection of clipv1 wps is made by target name 08.17.31 # S_a_i_n_t: I wouldn't like limiting to only the target it was submitted for. If it works on different ones it gives a better selection - but there needs to be at least one more must have limit currently not there and I can see how some solution to limit the Clips' selection could be useful (but all those will work on other 128x64x1 screens without the gap) 08.17.33 # Where do I find the Pitch screen? I enabled Timestretch and rebooted, and I can't find it... 08.17.56 # Well, if they all have that blue/yellow thing...and all have the same dimensions (which they do) they should all use the WPS that the Clip is using in the image you linked me. 08.18.01 # it's a LOT betetr 08.18.11 # S_a_i_n_t: well yeah we were just hit by a bug report ;) 08.18.15 # literal: Context menu 08.18.26 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-36-34.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 08.18.44 # funman: Like, right then? 08.19.09 # S_a_i_n_t: Ah, I was unaware of the Context menu 08.19.56 # the Clipv2/+ is using the "plain" cabbiev2 128x64x1 version that is actually made for the Iriver lcd remotes 08.21.02 # and works there with a larger font (Helvetica at 12 px tall or so) because you had to use the same font on main screen and remote 08.22.08 # but now we could use a 8px font ? 08.23.09 # multifont lets you chose different fonts for remote and main screen (and even some per WPS) 08.23.23 # it'd be simpler to adapt the iriver remote wps so it looks fine on clips and not use target selection 08.23.39 # maybe 08.24.31 # even just copy the current clip wps 08.25.19 # but I guess it needs adapting of some script too... the one that builds the .cfg is probably not set up for remote default fonts 08.26.31 # it would also be nice if the Clips' version could get the inverted style icons as I did for the MRobe100 - and then Clip and Iriver remotes will differ again 08.27.18 # pixelma: remote font is hardcoded in WPSLIST 08.29.16 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r26504): Fix global proxy getting set too late. ... 08.29.50 # pixelma: I was going to look into fixing the wpsbuild.pl script today thanks to haveing a working clip+ again... 08.30.20 # funman: that's been there for a long time but I'm not sure if it works 08.30.28 # JdGordon: nice :) 08.30.56 # although I vagualy remember how scary it is so dont expect much : 08.30.58 # :) 08.31.09 # http://i.imgur.com/PSnPg.png <- there's something wrong with the time display 08.31.12 # why does the clip not go back to the menu with the home button in the fm screen? 08.31.22 # JdGordon: because you didn't fix the keymap 08.31.33 # :) 08.31.44 # funman: viewports being clipped 08.32.00 # are rwps & wps being treated differently ? 08.32.05 # * pixelma sometimes wished she had an Iaudio remote to test some of these things directly - if it just wasn't so expensive (and still available...) 08.32.44 # funman: ? 08.32.49 # pixelma: if it's expensive there's the rockbox fund 08.33.12 # JdGordon: i just copied the clip(v1) wps over the default 128x64x1 wps, which is used as the iriver remote wps 08.33.42 # funman: RWPSs just get a .rwps extension during inclusion 08.33.51 # hmm i guess font selection didn't work as i wanted 08.36.27 Join ssorgatem [0] (~ssorgatem@83.55.239.153) 08.37.25 # pdbox doesn't build with arm-eabi toolchain 08.39.34 # JdGordon: can we specify a wps font & another rwps font in .cfg file? 08.40.15 # lemme check, I cant remember 08.40.37 # yes 08.40.42 # "remote font" should be the setting 08.40.47 # I think a differing default font for both would be better 08.42.34 # on remote targets you'll get a selection "Main Screen" or "Remote Screen" if you select a font now 08.43.11 # hm that goes in config.cfg not cabbiev2.cfg 08.43.17 # is it appropriate to submit feature requests to the bug tracker? 08.43.27 # literal: no i think you should use the forum 08.43.37 # ok 08.43.43 # can someone change their flyspray timezone (in the user settings) and tell me if the times on tasks are all completly wrong after doing that? 08.45.26 # looks like my feature is already implemented, just not very clear in the UI 08.45.34 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17392.msg128492#msg128492 08.46.29 Quit CGL (Remote host closed the connection) 08.47.07 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.47.48 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host23-166-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.49.26 Join Zagor_ [0] (~bjst@82.99.7.155) 08.50.42 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.54.36 # hm, "Show Track info" in the context menu has less information than the Clip+'s original firmware 08.54.57 # codec and ID3 tag version, and the filesize 08.57.06 # not a big deal though 08.57.14 # that screen shows only the info which the track has 08.57.25 # it also shows the filename 08.57.35 # Well, Rockbox isn't the original formware...making comparisons between the two is kinda silly. 08.57.41 # so I don't see why it couldn't show filesize 08.58.10 # S_a_i_n_t: there's no reason that Rockbox couldn't be better than the original in every way, though :) 08.58.18 # It does, just not where you're looking. 08.58.56 # filesize has nothing to do with track info, "properties" in the flietree context menu is where you should be looking. 08.59.17 # literal: "better" is entirely subjective 08.59.49 # I just found something that *is* a big deal, though. The sound quality is worse. I hear faint crackling when listening to music which plays perfectly on the original firmware. 09.00.16 # Rockbox != The original firmware!!! 09.00.22 # yay, time for another "Rockbox sounds like a BAG OF SHIT!!!!" discussion 09.00.36 # what is we usually suggest here? RMA? 09.00.39 # and never claims to be "better" than it, it is just an alternate firmware. 09.00.45 # S_a_i_n_t: What's your point? Isn't it still a goal of Rockbox to play music well? 09.00.48 # Better or worse is entirely subjective 09.00.59 # S_a_i_n_t: not true 09.01.16 # we *do* strive to be as good as or better than the OF 09.01.21 # I'm not saying "Rockbox should do this because the original firmware does". I'm saying Rockbox should have good sound quality because that's what any firmware should offer, if possible... 09.01.28 # it is indeed...one mans better is another mans worse. 09.01.41 # however the Clip+ port is extremely juvenile still, so I wouldn't expect it to be perfect yet 09.01.53 # The crackling seems to be mostly in the left channel 09.02.02 # see previous comment 09.02.03 # ah wpsbuild.pl doesn't create/modify the .cfg for rwps 09.02.51 # literal: is the crackling more or less audible in different tracks? at different volumes? 09.03.04 # is it audible while paused? 09.03.59 # Not while paused. Heavy bass seems to trigger it. 09.04.19 # literal: could you post results from RMAA playing the same track in both firmwares? 09.05.02 # Uh, sure. How does one do that? 09.05.08 # http://audio.rightmark.org/index_new.shtml 09.05.12 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 09.05.33 # I think this is the tool we generally ask people to use when there are issues around sound quality 09.05.42 # it makes the test objective at least 09.05.42 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.07.33 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.08.02 # pixelma: funman: as a simple quick fix for 3.6 we could just make a copy of the clip.wps for the v2 and plus 09.08.17 # funman, JdGordon: the quickest fix... or hackaround would be to copy... what he said ;) 09.08.20 # JdGordon: no problem since no clip is stable 09.08.37 # not nice wrt maintainability later though 09.09.18 # i can make the perl script put a 'remote font:' in theme.cfg but it's not loaded 09.10.22 # it would need to be in the config.cfg if it has to be available at boot (for the default theme) 09.10.35 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.10.40 # http://pastie.org/990139 <- cfg 09.11.14 # which target is that for? 09.11.25 # iriver h12*0 09.11.32 # ok 09.12.02 # where is default font hardcoded then ? 09.12.15 # apps/settings.h 09.12.28 # here is someone who seems to be experiencing the same sound quality problem: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=474437&postcount=492 09.12.51 # so it may have degraded sometime around revision 26380 09.12.52 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.14.59 # that doesn't tell us which release had brilliant sound though 09.15.16 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.15.23 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.15.39 # GodEater: a few comments down he says that r26177 sounded brilliantly 09.15.42 # also, "sound quality has degraded and sounds a bit distorted" doesn't say "There's crackling in the left channel" to me - it's extremely vague 09.15.59 # so someone could then do a binary search to work out when the change happened? 09.16.10 # which would tell us what the change was... 09.16.28 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 09.16.33 # who knows genlang? 09.16.33 # does rockbox.org only have the three last daily builds? 09.16.53 # we never recommend using daily builds anyway 09.16.59 # so it wouldn't surprise me if we only kept three 09.17.09 # http://i.imgur.com/kwvlv.png - how does that look ? 09.17.28 # like crap :) 09.17.34 # :/ 09.17.36 # http://pastie.org/990145 09.17.47 # empty 09.17.57 # perhaps because of missing tags 09.18.50 # http://i.imgur.com/9qx2I.png 09.19.13 # GodEater: we once kept one month, and I do think three is not enough (as you could see with the manuals yesterday) 09.19.56 # pixelma: I don't claim to be an expert on how many we keep, since I never use them :) 09.19.59 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 09.20.30 # JdGordon: http://pastie.org/990145 (edited), can you comment on the settings_list change ? 09.21.11 # If I wanted to disable "shutdown on long play" for the iPods....what do I need to change in the keymaps? 09.21.19 Quit Zigtown (Remote host closed the connection) 09.21.24 # funman: looks fine 09.21.27 # usually I don't use them either but it would sometimes be nice to be able going back in history a little bit further as it sometimes takes a while to discover bugs 09.21.35 # perhaps i need not to remove the rwps font = 12-helvetica for iaudios & mrobe 09.21.40 # GodEater: ^^ 09.21.45 # pixelma: well surely you can always build your own? 09.22.02 # I can but not everyone 09.22.09 # well, not easily 09.23.44 # funman: I'd still prefer if the script would be fixed for the other Clips too (as they also have an "inverted" display compared to the usual monochrome remotes) 09.23.57 # pixelma: what's wrong with that? 09.24.06 # the wps hasn't changed in 1 year or so 09.24.38 # (and it's fine for me) 09.25.45 # the bitmaps should actually look a bit different to look like "light is coming from top". There was a change I did for the also inverted MRobe100 display, let me see if I can find the task in the tracker with comparison screen shot 09.26.05 # I can commit the change for setting rwps default font (only setting it for <= 64 remote height without touching the wps themselves 09.26.59 # it's also giving more independence between Clips and Iriver remotes in case things change later 09.27.32 # independance = duplication so IMO it's not a good thing unless needed 09.28.21 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 09.30.01 Join TopyMobile [0] (~topy@xdsl-78-34-71-155.netcologne.de) 09.30.05 # New commit by 03funman (r26505): Use a different remote font than the main LCD font ... 09.31.11 # independence is not the same as duplication 09.31.27 # it's more control if things should differ a bit 09.32.23 # if they should, we can do it 09.32.52 # I've been wantintg to fix the wps script to let you do proper target selection like the .lang files for ages.... my perl isnt really good enough though 09.33.08 # trying to figure out what to copy from buildlang to make it work 09.33.19 # I wouldn't want three versions of the Clip variant in SVN - but one Clip and one Iriver remote. I don't like the fact that you just changed the looks for Iriver remote owners just to fix the Clipv2 and Clip+ 09.33.24 # what do I need to change in "keymap-ipod.c" to disable "shutdown on lang play"? 09.33.31 # pixelma: what about adding some spacing to the iriver rwps so it looks fine on clip (and on iriver) ? 09.33.54 # pixelma: doesn't fix anything on clip 09.33.57 # Can it be done, or is it hard coded? 09.34.20 # 08:40 < pixelma> I think a differing default font for both would be better 09.34.54 # sorry if i misunderstood that as 'using 8px font on iriver remote would be good' 09.35.38 # S_a_i_n_t: I think that might be very hardcoded... not sure if it is possible to disable 09.35.57 # yes, because you talked about WPS fonts.. ;) And yes, making the use of different fonts actually possible is good. I didn't want to say that this is the solution for cabbiev2 09.36.03 # funman: 09.36.28 # well then i dunno 09.36.57 # JdGordon: Blargh...I wanted to disable it so I could use "shutdown" in the main menu, and then in turn use long-play as a sort of "psuedo-stop". 09.37.23 # let me try to tweak the iriver rwps and show you beautiful screenshots ;) 09.37.46 # S_a_i_n_t: pseudo stop? 09.37.49 # I often use long play to stop playback completely, but it's a fine line between stop playback/turn the player off...which is annoying. 09.38.10 # * Llorean has never had trouble stopping without shutting down on his Nano 09.38.36 # Llorean: there is no "stop" button for the iPods, other than holding long play for "not *quite* long enough to shut the player down" 09.38.38 # Though this was primarily a 1g 09.38.48 # S_a_i_n_t: Yes, but that wouldn't be "pseudo" which is why I was asking. 09.39.00 # New commit by 03bieber (r26506): Theme Editor: Added syntax highlighting 09.39.04 # funman: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443?getfile=16130 and http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443?getfile=16133 for an explanation what I mean with the difference between bitmaps if they should look a bit 3D-y 09.39.09 # I cant say I've ever had issues with stopping on my mini2g, although I do admit i usually pause and let shutdown timer turn the thing off 09.39.10 # Well, yeah...not the best wording I guess. 09.39.25 # funman: between normal and inverted display 09.39.44 # S_a_i_n_t: If you have "fade on stop" enabled, you may be holding stop longer than you actually need to 09.39.50 # I just *really* want long-play to *not* shut down the player...but I don't even know where to start. 09.39.54 # By the time you hear it stopping, you've held it down quite a bit too long with fade, often enough 09.40.01 # It doesn't appear to be in the keymaps. 09.40.08 # bieber: AWESOME! I'm not a fan of the comment green.. but DAMN! 09.40.22 # pixelma: not sure i notice any difference 09.40.25 # Yeah, colors are COMPLETELY provisional 09.40.44 # Llorean: Which "stop" button are you reffering to? ;) 09.40.46 # I just threw some values in there to test it out with. Everything looking okay so far, other than color choice? :) 09.41.11 # I think so 09.41.24 # funman: look at the bars - on the inverted display of the MRobe, the dark part (the "shadow") is now on the bottom side - compare to the Clip currently 09.41.32 # would you do me a favor and tell me where can i find wps tags description? 09.41.47 # S_a_i_n_t: the only one the iPod has, long play 09.42.10 # pixelma: ah so you'd invert all the image? 09.42.12 # You'll not I didn't say "the stop button" but rather just "stop" referring to the function. :-P 09.42.14 # *note 09.42.16 # I 'd always assumed that was a side effect, as far as I know...it's not doccumented. 09.42.43 # What's a side effect? 09.42.54 # bieber: it doesnt auto update the tree anymore with text? 09.42.57 # Stopping playback on long-play is intentional. I could've sworn it was documented in the past. 09.43.06 # "stopping playback" 09.43.10 # funman: it's not a simple inverting of the images.... and CustomWPS in the wiki is probably the most up-to-date 09.43.16 # I don't *think* it's in the manual. 09.43.22 # JdGordon: It should still auto-update, but only when you have a valid parse tree 09.43.30 # If it doesn't update, it means it's not parsing right 09.44.04 # cool, I was going to ask if it was possible to show the area where it stops parseing if there is a error? 09.44.07 # funman: or the source otherwise (there is one file which has them in a list more or less, I always forget its name) 09.44.21 # S_a_i_n_t: See page 25 of the iPod Nano G1 manual 09.45.26 # manuals available again? Nice :) 09.45.58 # Once I get the rest of the GUI together, I'm going to rework the error function to allow it to change the stream it sends errors to, so I can capture the messages and highlight an error'd out line 09.46.56 # how far is the gui going to go? I cant remember if the final goal was a output window also? 09.47.38 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F1C3.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.47.41 Join lpereira [0] (~lucien@did75-8-82-226-27-213.fbx.proxad.net) 09.48.40 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.49.28 # pixelma: http://i.imgur.com/JwBC9.png 09.49.41 # Yes, there will be an output window 09.50.32 # I should be finished with the skeleton of the GUI about a week from today, and that should have a file browser, text edit area, parse tree view, and an output pane 09.50.44 # But the output pane won't be functional yet, of course 09.50.49 # I just moved the tag info vp 2 px down and added the Next tag 09.51.14 # funman: better, I'd still like to see the script fixed too though 09.51.23 # what do you mean? 09.51.29 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCBC28.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.52.50 Quit TopyMobile (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09.54.10 # that somewps-128x64x1-sansaclip.wps would also be used for Clipv2 and Clip+. I won't object to changing the usual 128x64x1 version now, added next track info is a valuable information... 09.54.27 # pixelma: well i would want to just remove sansaclip.wps and use the iriver wps 09.54.32 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 09.54.50 # the screenshots show the (modified) iriver wps 09.55.03 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.55.21 # if the iriver screenshot is good for you i guess it's ok 09.55.52 # although one can ask now why this one now differs that much from the Archos variant which is same height. 09.56.11 # because of the yellow 09.56.29 # before this we had the font size excuse 09.56.32 # perhaps i'm trying to enlarge the progress bar to 8 pixels 09.56.48 # well, the Iriver remote doesn't have the yellow 09.56.53 # s/perhaps// 09.57.05 # different font? i don't know how the archos look 09.57.52 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.58.10 # the issue used to be that the iriver main screen used a bigger font which wasnt usable on the archos 09.58.24 # I mean: before your change today we used a different font for the Iriver remote (because it wasn't possible when cabbiev2 was created to use something else than the main screen) 09.58.26 # now we can use multifont or 2 seperate fonts so that is a moot point 09.58.56 # now the 64 pixels tall screens use all the same font 09.58.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.59.19 # http://i.imgur.com/wck3R.png 09.59.52 # the "NOW PLAYING" text is badly redimensioned though 09.59.56 # from 4px to 6px 10.00.31 # and perhaps 1 px empty line between progress bar and title would be good 10.00.44 # it also looks too crammed, I wouldn't change it 10.01.17 # the text "sticks" at the progress bar 10.02.24 # you mean it is too close to the borders of the bar ? 10.02.45 # yes 10.03.12 # it's the same absolute distance in SVN but not the same relative distance 10.03.51 # sorry, I can't parse that 10.04.10 # it's 1 pixel away from the border, both with and without the patch 10.04.26 # but relative to the progressbar height, with the patch it looks closer 10.04.59 # well, probably the larger font includes a bit of spacing at the top (in itself) 10.05.36 # ah no 10.07.20 # funman: I would just care about the spacing between bar and text and there needs to be at least one line IMO, no matter where it comes from 10.16.05 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 10.16.22 # http://i.imgur.com/3RjFx.png 10.17.06 # i made the pb 1px higher and added a black line at the bottom (i modified the right end but it's not shown) 10.18.08 # I still prefer the original 4px one 10.19.04 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10.19.06 # I'm using a Rockbox with a bootloader. If I want to downgrade the Rockbox firmware, what do I need to compile/replace? 10.19.09 # 2 pixels space between pb and title is ok ? 10.19.13 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D53B.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.19.19 # literal: .rockbox directory, no need to touch bootloader 10.19.26 # Ok, cool 10.19.55 # pixelma: http://pastie.org/990191 looks ok? 10.20.21 # perhaps i can move the pb 1 pixel down 10.22.36 # http://pastie.org/990191 (edited) looks like http://i.imgur.com/bO8IA.png 10.24.46 # GodEater: Yup, I can confirm that r26177 sounds perfect. 10.24.51 # Commencing binary search... 10.27.18 # literal: you know git bisect, right? 10.27.52 # that's exactly what I'm doing :) 10.27.56 # nice :) 10.28.09 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@2002:7bf3:8c1f:1234:21a:4dff:fe4b:7b5a) 10.28.09 Quit GodEater_ (Changing host) 10.28.09 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.28.17 Quit GodEater_ (Client Quit) 10.29.32 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.31.28 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.34.28 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.34.28 Quit JdGordon_ (Changing host) 10.34.28 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.35.08 Quit JdGordon_ (Client Quit) 10.35.45 # literal: if you build revisions later than r26253 you only need to run make bin & copy rockbox.sansa to .rockbox 10.36.03 # ok 10.45.56 # funman: did you look at it on a real display? The greyscale and monochrome screens usually don't use the full display all the way to the casing and so have some "spacing" included already. The shifted down version doesn't look so nice from what I can tell by your screenshots 10.46.35 # the sim doesn't represent this very well 10.49.01 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.49.01 Quit JdGordon_ (Changing host) 10.49.01 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.50.09 Join blairb [0] (~blair@121-73-216-35.broadband.telstraclear.net) 10.51.36 # I'm not sure if the Clips' OLED is the same though 10.53.36 # if only there were a way to stop the OF from rebuilding its DB 10.53.50 # I need to wait for it twice whenever I plug in the player 10.54.01 # http://code.google.com/p/andless/ <= the references Android player using Rockbox codec(s) 10.54.04 # referenced 10.54.12 # once because some rockbox file has changed, then again after transfering files over USB 10.55.39 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r26507): More FFT fun: No point in computing and combining the 2nd FFT if it's just being made null. Use the regular complex FFT (called by fftr anyway) and ... 10.58.28 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.01.16 Quit detaos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.01.16 Join detaos_ [0] (~quassel@ip72-218-104-242.hr.hr.cox.net) 11.08.16 # pixelma: will check, but it's the same spacing than bottom 11.09.00 # looks fine 11.11.00 # I just think it isn't needed and would look better at the top, not shifted down - at least on the Iriver remotes which is why it's been this way 11.11.18 # so we keep 2 px space between the bar and the title? 11.11.59 # from what I can tell by the screenshots I'd prefer it this wax 11.12.05 # err... way 11.12.10 # can i commit then? 11.12.42 # the change is just move tag info 2 pixels down and add Next tag 11.13.07 # hm perhaps i can make it better 11.13.16 # and add 1 pixel space between text lines 11.15.06 # not sure if it can be made without a viewport for each tag 11.16.17 # I actually considered working on cabbiev2 anyways during DevCon as there is also some "code" cleanup possible and all should get the accurate dB display when changing volume that the Clip version has, and there are also SBSs and FMSs missing 11.17.29 # cabbie could really do with a sbs on tall and wide screens (disabled when there is no music playing).... 11.17.45 # you can only add spacing between lines if you put each line in an own viewport or chose a bigger font (not necessarily 1 pixel more spacing but maybe a better "distribution" across the screen) 11.18.20 # Zagor_: is the flyspray theme changed at all? my account seems to have a nice bug and I have no idea if the bug is a FS one or a theme on or something 11.18.21 # hm ok 11.18.31 # that means we have 4 pixels left 11.18.37 Quit grndslm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.18.52 Quit JdGordon_ (Quit: Lost terminal) 11.18.59 # JdGordon: no I haven't touched it in months. the only change is that it now runs in php-cgi instead of mod_php 11.19.22 # ...and spamming tons of segmentation fault messages to the kernel log :( 11.19.36 # it is showing "jdgordon" instead of times everywhere for me when I'm logged in 11.20.39 # hmm, we've seen that before. can't recall what it was though... 11.22.02 # New commit by 03funman (r26508): cabbiev2 128x64x1 wps (iriver remote wps): add more info to the screen ... 11.22.18 # i'll ask bertrik if he's ok using this wps 11.22.23 # (on the clips=) 11.24.31 # who's the lua person if not mcuelenaere ? 11.32.31 # what does WPS stand for? 11.32.56 # while playing screen/skin 11.33.01 # ok 11.33.29 Join DataGhost [0] (~dataghost@unaffiliated/dataghost) 11.35.17 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 11.35.37 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 11.40.46 Quit blairb (Quit: Leaving) 11.44.12 # Is any progress being made on USB transfer support for Sansa players? 11.45.18 # yes (for Sansa AMS, the others work fine already) 11.45.32 # yeah, meant Sansa AMS 11.47.13 # pixelma: wpsbuild.pl lets you use a 4bit (or 2bit or mono) .wps with a 16bit display? is that ever actually used? 11.48.38 # hmm... crap, seems it might be 11.49.00 # also what is happening with the wps' in svn? wern't we going to delete them apart from cabbie? 11.58.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.04.24 # hm, Rockbox handles version 2.3 and 2.4 of the ID3 genre tag differently 12.04.57 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.05.18 # if it's 2.3, the genre shoes up as "Soundtrack", but if it's 2.4, the genre shows up as "(24) Soundtrack" 12.05.24 # shows* 12.06.19 # it shouldn't show the (id) 12.06.38 # id3 is a miserable "standard" imho 12.07.09 # many programs/players don't handle ID3 v2.4 correctly yet, so this is excusable 12.07.22 # I'll stick to v2.3 for now 12.07.40 # JdGordon: yes it's used for the 160x128 colour displays which can use some of the ones created for H100 etc. first (DancePuffDuo, iAmp and the like). And yes, the plan was to remove the shipped ones except cabbiev2 as soon as all are uploaded to the theme site which they aren't yet 12.17.54 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.17.54 # 2.3 doesn't do UTF-8 though, which is kinda annoying :) 12.18.33 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 12.18.38 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.20.17 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 12.21.09 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3B068.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.21.31 # wincent, you there? 12.22.22 # Buschel: Indeed. 12.23.04 # can you check a potential fix in the cos/osc area of pdbox? 12.23.26 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.24.08 # Buschel: Because you do not have SVN access? 12.24.25 # no, just to have you reviewed it -> http://www.pastebin.org/302564 12.25.16 # the interpolation in the cos~ application was wrong. I also deleted the tabs in both files 12.25.48 # Buschel: Now this is interesting! 12.25.50 # btw, is the precision to low when not interpolating? the interpolation will slow down the generation a lot 12.26.49 # I would just drop the interpolation as the precision of the phase is 18 bit 12.26.58 # which is quite a lot 12.27.59 # Buschel: I promise to look at it somewhat later. At this moment I've got to go. Are you ok with this? 12.28.15 # of course :) 12.28.57 # Buschel: Talk to you later then. 12.29.49 # btw, instead of using your own mult() you should take a look at the arm/coldfire asm functions in the codeclib. those will be way faster. I'll create a small example for arm and place a link here 12.30.23 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.33.54 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@90-230-78-242-no134.tbcn.telia.com) 12.34.00 Quit n1s (Changing host) 12.34.00 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.34.27 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.37.47 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 12.38.00 # Buschel: why are you so keen on deleting tabs? we generally don't change the style of imported code 12.39.42 # wincent: pdbox doesn't build with eabi toolchain 12.41.00 # kugel: just personal dislike... and it doesn't hurt if we delete tabs on files we're submitting because of other changes 12.41.07 # my opinion of course... 12.42.17 # Buschel: wincent did hard to maintain ease of backporting upstream changes (#ifdef ROCKBOX everywhere), those tab removals make it hard 12.43.12 # well, up to him what he wants to do with the fix. 12.44.18 # Buschel: docs/CONTRIBUTING says to not change imported code unless really needed 12.45.30 # IIUC diff can be told to ignore whitespace changes so it shouldn't be that big a problem 12.55.18 # ranma: no battery life diff on fuzev1 (or not noticeable) 12.55.26 # it ran for 14h40 12.56.58 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.03.47 Nick [keanu] is now known as keanu (~keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 13.06.30 # wincent: http://www.pastebin.org/302617 -> also adds arm asm for mult. 13.07.40 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.07.49 Join petur [0] (www-data@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.08.03 # wincent: pdbox does not link on ipod video because the ram is full. if you only use 1/4 of the cos_tab pdbox fits into ram. it is possible to only define 1/4 of this tab and use the symmetry of cos for the calculation... 13.08.10 # will be back later 13.08.12 Quit Buschel () 13.09.29 # funman: Then it was probably just the hung lcd. I've run a partial (2 hour) bench without the patch, finished recharging and started a new bench with the patch I'll run about 2 hours and the compare the logs. 13.10.42 # I also went to Handaduke Cafe in Akihabara and repaired the Clip+ jtag and also added two wires to the 'unbrick' pads since I'd like to check which gpio pins those are. 13.18.45 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 13.19.17 Quit steve|m (Remote host closed the connection) 13.25.25 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 13.30.17 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.33.56 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.38.26 # I was of the understanding that all the "shipped" themes *were* uploaded to the themesite already.....? 13.38.42 # Someone went to the effort of doing that some time ago. 13.39.26 # RE:[22:07] ... And yes, the plan was to remove the shipped ones except cabbiev2 as soon as all are uploaded to the theme site which they aren't yet... 13.39.45 # What ones are missing? 13.43.09 # ssorgatem: What errors does the build system tell? 13.43.29 Join ucchan [0] (~ucchan@softbank126102048043.bbtec.net) 13.44.06 # Unhelpul login? 13.45.11 # I update embed aa patch now (FS#11216). 13.46.15 # please confirm many targets/users. 13.46.52 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.48.26 # Buschel: Please try to preserve original formatting, if it is possible. The reason was already explained by kugel, as the version of the PD core in pdbox is 0.37 and there is an effort en route to update it to 0.43, so that preserved formatting eases the backporting. 13.50.14 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-054-011.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.52.57 # S_a_i_n_t: all greyscale and monochrome ones IIRC 13.56.09 # also packaging the RWPSs isn't done very well yet, I had an idea and try to convince domonoky about it the next days ;) 13.56.53 # Buschel: Interpolation for cos~ object might be needed, or maybe not. Much more interesting is your optimization of multiplication. 13.59.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.20 Quit moparx (Quit: moparx) 13.59.36 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.59.59 # Buschel: By the way, would you like to implement the cos~ and osc~ objects working with 1/4 of the cosine table? 14.03.32 # wincent: http://pastie.org/990355 14.07.40 Quit ucchan (Quit: Leaving...) 14.07.55 # ssorgatem: And what does the function abort() do there? 14.08.04 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.08.25 # wincent: ? I don't know 14.11.34 # ssorgatem: I do not see any reference to abort() in m_class.c . That's why I asked in the first place. 14.12.26 # Does anybody know why there are references to abort() when compiling with EABI toolchain? 14.12.40 # weird 14.13.08 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 14.13.18 # oh 14.13.38 # I forgot to paste some other warning which happen earlier when compiling 14.15.01 # wincent: http://pastebin.com/x5w7tygU 14.18.19 # ssorgatem: It seems that EABI toolchain has problems with arguments lists with variable length. 14.18.24 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r26509): Add a new script to build the themes. WIP and heavily based on wpsbuild.pl 14.20.52 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 14.24.39 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@92.39.21.108) 14.24.39 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 14.24.39 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 14.25.21 # wincent: you're probably getting exception unwinding tables from somewhere? 14.25.22 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.ntl.com) 14.25.31 # wincent: that can involve references to fun random symbols defined by the ABI 14.27.54 # Torne: Do you suggest that the whole EABI mess comes from the too big cosine table? 14.28.06 # what? 14.29.04 Part LinusN 14.29.07 # something is probably accidentally compiled with exception handling turned on 14.29.16 # Torne: What do mean with "unwinding tables"? 14.29.21 # this causes the EABI toolchain to emit .eh_frame and similar unwinding sections 14.29.21 # Torne: the way we build it with rockboxdev.sh should remove all unwind&exception stuff 14.29.34 # some of these refer to symbols like abort() 14.29.50 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 14.31.00 # ssorgatem, Torne: I am afraid the help for this problem should involve someone much more knowledgeable about EABI toolchain than myself. 14.31.43 # wincent: i can't even code in C, i'm only a tester 14.35.18 # pixelma: does this look like all the theme settings? http://pastebin.com/0Xkz6vKc (left side of => is the setting name in WPSLIST, right side is setting name in the .cfg) 14.36.12 # ssorgatem: Nevertheless you've provided enough information for this problem to guess it's cause. IMO good job. 14.38.07 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.42.00 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.42.19 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 14.47.36 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3F4E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.50.09 # wincent: http://www.pastebin.org/302863 -> this one only changes the formatting within the while-loop. this way it can be easily spotted that both loops are nearly identical in cos~ and osc~. I also made some thoughts about the interpolation again and came to the conclusion the the logic was false. can you please test this? 14.50.36 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14.51.40 # * JdGordon 's awesome new themebuild script is almost ready :) 14.51.48 # wincent: the fastest way to reduce the table would be to only keep each 4th value and reduce ILOGCOSTABSIZE to 13. this way all the logic will still work fine. furthermore we can try to put the cos_tab to iram which will speed up the generator a lot. 14.52.12 # Buschel: The problem is that cos~ is rarely used. 14.52.29 # Buschel: They tend to use osc~ instead. 14.53.29 # Buschel: I thought of this way of reducing table's size. 14.54.20 # Buschel: What size of IRAM does the platform you are aiming at have? 14.55.08 # wincent: well, no both osc~ and cos~ would be in sync. can you provide me a patch that would only keep each 4th cos_tab? 14.55.38 # wincent: I am using iPod video with plugin IRAM size = 80 KB 14.56.20 # is there something such a simulator or a vm for the bootloader? 14.56.25 # for better compatiblity wiht with other targets you should better asume 48KB of IRAM 14.57.24 # Buschel: Like in H320, which is my testing platform. 14.58.16 # Stummi: no, there would be no point really 14.58.32 # Stummi: the simulator exists to simulate the app layer.. the bootloader doesn't have the app layer. 14.58.49 # Buschel: "each 4th" means a cos_tab with a size of one quarter of the current one? 14.59.23 # yes, and just keep values with indices 0,4,8, ... 14.59.35 # Torne, what can i do, if i want to check, if a modified bootloader works without possibly breaking my player? 14.59.45 # you can't, by definition 14.59.56 # hm 15.00.00 # unless it's one of the players that can't be broken by our code 15.00.24 # The simulator doesn't include any of the actual hardware, so there's no way to know if hardware-dependent stuff will actually work 15.01.29 # ok 15.01.58 # Buschel: there is a file makecostab.c in pdbox/PDa/src . Would you like to use it by yourself? 15.02.09 # but anyway, a full-fledged virtual machine to emulate a player would be a nice thing ;) 15.03.37 Join evilnick_B [0] (~0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.04.01 # hi, when I mount my sansa_e280v2 on my linux desktop, I can't see the microsdhc card, but when I boot the player, I would see something like from the files menu, how can i see that card when connecting via the usb cable? currently I have to take the card out, use the usb controler and copy files there. 15.04.18 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-210-229-221.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.06.20 # Stummi: We don't have enough hardware details for any of the players for such a thing to be accurate 15.06.43 # Stummi: even on the players where the components are publically documented, we don't know for certain every detail of how they are connected, what timing parameters might be too fast/slow, etc 15.06.49 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.06.59 # so you can never prove that something is safe using an emulator.. 15.07.09 # kio: that is probably a problem with your linux kernel not having lun support 15.07.28 # Stummi: what player is it, and what have you done to the bootloader? 15.07.31 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-182-135-144.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.08.20 # mc2739, when I plugin the player, it does mount (via hal ) and I can see the file system on the player, but the card is not visible 15.09.10 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15.09.17 # Torne, i have a Sansa Fuse V2 Running on Rockbox since yesterday. And i didn't do something with the loader to yet, but i like the project and thinking about learning to hack rockbox. 15.09.29 # wincent: I made an error in my last posted patch. please use this one -> http://www.pastebin.org/302934 15.09.39 # Well, generally as long as you don't touch the dualboot code, which is in a separate file, you should be okay 15.09.40 # kio: for the card to be visible, your kernel needs to have lun support. 15.10.01 # Even if you break the bootloader itself, as long as the dualboot stub is working you should be able to start the Sansa firmware 15.10.05 # and then you can install a new bootloader. 15.10.14 # so it's not 100% safe, but it's not super risky either 15.10.46 # I thought about start in little-steps, such as inserting a "Hello World"-Line at booting to get to know the project 15.11.28 # this shall be something, where is the risk to break something not too high :p 15.12.16 # mc2739, ok, thx, i'll check the the kernel. 15.12.45 Join Curtman [0] (~curt@S010600248c269238.wp.shawcable.net) 15.13.30 # mc2739, by lun, it's CONFIG_SCSI_MULTILUN ? 15.13.48 # Stummi: Oh, you don't have a specific thing in mind? 15.13.55 # Stummi: Don't modify the bootloader at all then... 15.14.16 # you can modify the main app all you like and that can't possibly break the ability to dualboot and recover in the OF 15.14.34 # if you want to do something "at boot" do it in the main app's initialisation, not the bootloader.. 15.14.50 # ok, to answer my own question. yes it is. :) 15.16.14 # Torne, ok 15.17.06 # Stummi: needing to modify the bootloader is pretty infrequent even for the people working on the main porting effort 15.17.18 # if you just want to learn to work on rockbox the application is much more interesting :) 15.18.23 # ok :) 15.18.27 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.19.07 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 15.24.58 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 15.29.53 Join voRia [0] (~voria@adsl-ull-31-165.46-151.net24.it) 15.32.15 # New commit by 03teru (r26510): Correct reusing buffers if the backdrop file is already loaded. ... 15.40.00 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.40.51 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 15.44.42 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r26511): almost finished... copy fonts, backdrops, icon files, skins. last thing to do is copy the images from inside the skins 15.44.51 Quit voRia (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.44.58 Quit kio (Quit: Leaving) 15.45.07 # kio: I believe that is the correct setting - but this is not really Rockbox related and is therefore off-topic for this channel 15.49.15 # wincent: I uploaded three patches to a new flyspray entry FS#11348. 1) cos~/osc~ fix 2) mult asm 3) smaller cos_table put to iram 15.51.59 # Buschel: Will try it out. I will post result as comment for the patch. 15.52.50 # thanks 15.55.46 # New commit by 03funman (r26512): sd-as3525v1: do not disable peripheral clocks in sd_enable() ... 15.57.57 Join voRia [0] (~voria@adsl-ull-189-181.46-151.net24.it) 15.59.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.59.34 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r26513): copy the images for the skins. 16.01.38 # can someone with some time and perl skills review tools/buildtheme.pl and check for anythig totally retarted? 16.03.20 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 16.04.30 # release day!! 16.07.08 # release day? 16.09.13 # BTW Radio works on my Clip+ here 16.09.53 # r0b-: where do you live? 16.10.35 # perhaps you can exchange clip+ with a dev 16.10.41 # Torne: wouldn't roloing the new bootloader at least be somewhat useful as a test (assuming it can be roloed)? 16.11.15 # unless the bootloader is compiled to execute in place of course 16.11.52 # you should put all hardware into reset state to be sure 16.12.49 # right 16.12.52 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.12.59 # it probably isn't a very good test 16.13.30 # no i think it's a good idea but it requires some work to 'undo' system_init 16.16.20 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.16.22 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 16.18.40 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.227.74) 16.21.51 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-094-217-137-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.23.29 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.24.29 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@static-71-249-251-152.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 16.26.47 # n1s: the bootloader is not necessarily compiled to run at the same base address, no 16.27.04 # n1s: and on samsa it's in flash so i'd expect at least the start to run xip 16.48.50 Quit voRia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.49.48 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 16.50.34 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.55.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.59.03 # xip? 17.03.39 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 17.06.08 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@188.20.253.186) 17.09.11 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.09.34 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@210.156-ppp.3menatwork.com) 17.11.00 # kwe (hi). rev 26513 the pdbox app build dies with such things as "m_class.c:(.text+0xff8): undefined reference to `abort'" at the LD stage, and warnings above that. (pastebinning) 17.11.36 # gcc eabi? 17.13.35 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.13.39 # http://is.gd/cB7KV 17.13.41 # yes 17.13.45 # arm 17.13.54 # (it's for a fuzev2) 17.14.34 # http:/ /paste.pocoo.org/show/221476/ (sorry about the shortened URL, forgot about that autoshorten script...) 17.14.44 # Somuch about EABI toolchain... 17.14.58 # i'm trying to build it here 17.15.41 # i used the rockbox script. it built fine. that was last week IIRC. 17.16.38 # ah pdbox is using typedefed enums 17.17.08 # eh, i've had issues with those in the past in other projects... 17.17.59 # (i don't write C, so it was someone else's work =) 17.18.36 # aborts are close to va_arg(ap, t_atomtype) (t_atomtype is a typedefed enum) 17.18.43 # funman: What is the difference? 17.19.07 # funman: ... between typedefed and untypedefed enums? 17.19.29 # i think the problem is that eabi gives different types to enums 17.19.56 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 17.19.57 # see r26368 for doom 17.20.35 # you basically can't use enums for va_arg because IIRC there are rules for va_arg casting 17.21.23 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.21.37 # http://pastie.org/990630 works for me 17.22.17 # can't see that in w3m :/ 17.22.40 # casting manually to int in the variable arguments lists in question should also work 17.22.55 # simonrvn: patches didn't exist in 1960 anyway 17.23.09 # heh 17.23.37 # funman: Will you make the changes to typedefs? 17.23.42 # oh it's ok 17.23.55 # i just opened it in epiphany 17.24.02 # thanks though 17.24.32 # however it should work in this case 17.25.03 # 'va_arg(ap, t_atomtype)' is just abort() for gcc it seems 17.25.05 # maybe gcc defaults to promoting to int because *printf couldn't handle variable sized enums 17.25.07 # wincent: ok 17.25.23 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 17.26.23 # pixelma: have you seen FS#11186 17.28.02 # New commit by 03funman (r26514): pdbox: fix build on ARM with eabi 17.28.13 # funman: I think you should just do var_arg(X, int), enums are apprently always promoted (according to some posts found on google) 17.28.33 Quit lpereira (Quit: Leaving.) 17.28.35 # isn't it cleaner this way? 17.29.01 # trying 17.29.34 # funman: dunno, I don't feel strong about it. typedef int is probably safer though 17.30.05 # mc2739: thanks and no I hadn't. It doesn't look very useful though (lots of included but untranslated strings) 17.30.40 # (so far no warnings at all) 17.31.50 # literal: any progress with bisection? 17.32.58 # kugel, amiconn, other German native speakers: do you remember the "hotkey" translation discussion? What would you think of "Funktionstaste"? 17.33.00 # successful build 17.33.15 # thank you :) 17.34.12 # pixelma: I'd just leave it as hotkey, but if it needs a translation I'd go for Tastenkürzel (because that seems more common to me, and the hotkey might not be a single button on some targets) 17.40.44 # Tastenkürzelbelegung then? (as the hotkey (combo) itself is fixed, you just set what it can do) 17.47.23 Quit Zagor_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.50.52 # funman: Where do you see the 1.02.09 hw rev on your clip+? 17.51.03 # I see 'REV13' on the button side of the board 17.51.08 # ranma: OF 17.51.17 # never opened my clip+ 17.51.43 # Well, since OF won't boot I can't check there :) 17.51.55 # what are you reading then? the ROM code? 17.52.01 # Yeah, the rom code 17.52.40 # i can try to read/run that 17.54.53 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 17.55.03 # I've sent you an email with my clipplus_rom.bin 17.55.36 # is it 128kb? 17.55.45 # Yes 17.56.08 Quit hebz0rl_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.56.26 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 17.57.08 # and 128kB is not 128<<1024, right. /me slaps self 17.59.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.59.24 # Clip+ bootloader gives me UIE exception when compiled with -Os BTW, -O works fine though. 17.59.58 # IMO no need to worry about bootloaders, we can build them with -O if we do it once every blue moon 18.00.34 # ranma: my rom is the same 18.02.02 # With http://pastebin.com/cDrsrPgg I don't have any warnings when compiling rockbox for c200v2 with -Os 18.02.09 # if we disable MMU & clear CCU_MEMMAP bit 0 we could restart from the ROM, but if we set GPIO B4 would it read back as 1 for the ROM too ? 18.02.21 Join Lear [0] (chatzilla@rockbox/developer/lear) 18.02.27 # i have tried -Os on clipv1 (but not bootloader) and it worked fin etoo 18.03.56 # The time between setting B4 to 1 and the readback in the rom is likely too long to have it read it back as 1, but it would depend on capacitance I think 18.04.12 # The pin has a pulldown that discharges the line capacitance 18.04.41 # perhaps we could enable user-doable recovery 18.08.39 # Nope, didn't work 18.08.42 Join djzn [0] (~djzn@189.111.64.153) 18.09.10 # I set the pin to out, wrote 1 to it, set a breakpoint on the read and restarted the bootloader, but it read back with the bit cleeared 18.10.13 # hi... wanted to know if wavpack -h files are OK to be played on RockBox 18.12.00 # not sure what -h is but just try 18.12.53 # -h is for -high 18.12.56 # compression mode 18.13.11 # there is normal, high and very high... the very high is not recommended for portables 18.13.24 # however the high mode, compresses much more than flac -8 18.14.48 # funman: I thought of using the gpio for a serial console (as long as usb is not working yet) to output logf 18.15.14 # branching to rom just freeze :/ 18.15.31 Quit petur (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.16.27 # ranma: is it precise enough? 18.17.18 # someone had dumped the ROM through the LED wires on an e200v2 before storage worked 18.17.18 # but he had to make several reads for error correction 18.18.14 Quit fyrestorm (Quit: Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!) 18.18.14 # Should be at least if you disable interrupts while writing a char 18.20.47 # hum the "ROM" is writable? 18.21.21 # Set to cachable in the mmu maybe? 18.21.26 # no 18.21.43 # D1C (loaded by reset vector) disables mmu, caches 18.22.39 # hm they write at 0x81xx not 0x80xx 18.22.47 # Thats an embedded ram alias 18.22.51 # yeam its iram 18.23.43 # if they don't use mmu we could cheat: copy the ROM somewhere, map it at ROM address, patch the reading of B4 18.23.58 # but if there is different ROM versions then it won't work 18.24.34 # add a CRC check then? 18.25.03 # You're thinking of adding that to the bootloader? Like 'hold up for recovery mode'? 18.25.04 # we still have some room in dualboot.S code 18.25.26 # hm it could work in the bootloader too but if the botoloader works then no need for recovery no? 18.25.40 # Ah, I mean dualboot 18.26.26 # yes that's what I am thinking but I'm not 100% sure of the risks 18.27.16 # i'll keep the idea in my mind i guess :) 18.27.23 # is it normal for there to be a mildly long delay in starting playback on my Fuzev2? 18.27.24 # Like accidentally entering recover mode and overwriting the disk :) 18.27.34 # kisak: song has to be loaded from storage first 18.28.03 # ranma: ah true it's possible that someone formats the drive 18.28.07 # kisak: mildly long is subjective. it shouldnt take longer than 2-3 seconds 18.28.27 # it feels like it's more than 2-3 seconds 18.28.34 # more like twice that 18.28.37 # On a Fuze V2, where are the preinstalled music files located? 18.28.55 # Lear: ask sandisk? 18.28.56 # Lear: iirc it's in ##MUSIC# 18.29.17 # I can't see that at all in MSC mode though. 18.29.32 # you can see them from rockbox 18.29.34 # Lear: just format it 18.29.40 # Lear: I believe the OF hides it 18.29.46 # just move them to a folder outside ##MUSIC# 18.30.07 # Lear: on the v1 c200 it was in the some SYSTEM subfolder although a MUSIC one existed too 18.30.14 # Lear: the OF hides the ## folders when you connect in msc mode 18.30.22 # and 18.30.23 # is it normal for the interface to hang while caching the first song? 18.30.25 # never 18.30.42 # nerv nerver never rename the MUSIC folder to ##MUSIC# 18.30.43 # Lear: you only see it from rockbox 18.30.49 # Ah. So a reformat then (once I've installed the bootloader). 18.31.15 # Lear: I used the format option in the OF 18.31.29 # kisak: That was my plan, yes. 18.31.58 # mkfs.vfat -I works fine too (faster?) 18.33.19 # ranma: i have an idea to make the OF boot on your clip+ 18.33.39 # German speaker question: I don't like "zurückspulen" in "Rewind before resume" although that's actually the same as in English (you don't rewind anything on an MP3-Player). Would "Rückschritt" be ok? 18.33.49 Quit djzn (Quit: Leaving.) 18.34.09 # zurückspulen is better IMO 18.34.48 # ranma: (OF 1.02.09) revert 0x33E0 and 0x33D4 so it uses SD slot functions for internal, and patch sdslot detection to return false, then format your SD card like interla 18.34.51 # internal* 18.36.02 # change the condition in branch 0x9368 and make 0x2980 return 0 18.36.14 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D53B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.37.51 # so anything blocking release? 18.38.28 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-174-49-112-244.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.38.47 # pixelma: just because it's *technically* not correct? 18.38.51 # "untagged"? :\ 18.38.58 Join pamaury_ [0] (~pamaury@p5DDECECE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.39.27 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-214-233.cust.bredband2.com) 18.39.50 # I think rewind (and Zurückspulen) is pretty much established in the digital music world too 18.39.51 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 18.40.03 # don't you rewind the playback position anyway? 18.40.20 # kugel: probably. It just reads weird in my eyes but I'll use it 18.40.32 # even if it's not linked to a physical motion 18.42.38 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.43.14 # any suggestions for "untagged"? I can only think of some Denglish form for it where I don't even know it's correct spelling. Dictionaries suggest "unmarkiert" but that's a bit too general, or not? 18.43.26 # s/it's/its 18.44.19 # Yeah, unmarkiert is too general I think. 18.44.48 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC573EA.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.45.31 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.45.43 # "Keine Metadaten" would work 18.46.29 # or "Ohne Metadaten" 18.46.38 # hmm... yeah 18.46.40 # http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag-Editor 18.46.48 # metadatenlos ;) 18.47.53 # bertrik: did you see the changes to the default 128x64x1 cabbiev2 wps i made this morning ? (for the iriver remotes) 18.49.06 # no, not yet, I did read some of discussion about the clip specific version of the wps 18.49.23 # Or just "Kein Tag" 18.49.38 # * kugel would prefer ohne over keine 18.49.55 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.49.56 # basically i think we could use the same wps on all 128x64 screens, because now it's nice with the yellow/blue separation of the clip with 8 pixels font 18.49.59 # Yeah, it's probably better 18.50.10 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 18.50.21 # "Ohne Tag" or "Ohne Metadaten" 18.50.30 # funman, yeah would be nice to have the same wps on all targets indeed, I'll have a look 18.50.38 # * kugel also thinks there's no nice translation for tags 18.50.54 # ranma: "Kein Tag" as in "after sunset"? :) 18.51.05 # Ugh. Any way to avoid that "refreshing database" step? 18.51.13 # * funman translated this to 'Unknown' in french 18.51.23 # Lear: no, welcome ;-) 18.51.28 # funman, as far as I understood, the clip specific wps wasn't being applied to clip+ and clipv2 either, right? 18.51.46 # I go with "ohne Metadaten" - yes and Tag as in tag, and Tag as in day 18.51.47 # Lear: well you can keep power button pressed after unmounting, before unplugging, but i don't know how nice it is wrt the filesystem 18.52.00 # although gevaerts said he wouldn't speak German :P 18.52.15 # unknown could work too 18.52.16 # funman: it would be nice if we spotted the code in the OF which detects whether a refresh is needed after usb disconnect 18.52.17 # pixelma: I didn't *speak* it, I only translated! 18.52.28 # bertrik: no, we would need explicit copy to sansaclipv2.wps and sansaclipplus.wps 18.52.38 # The flashing didn't trigger the select language screen, so that trick can't be used, it seems. 18.52.50 # kugel: i tried, but the strings is dynamically loaded from header blocks so it's not easy to see references 18.53.14 Quit Buschel () 18.53.50 # kugel: afaik usb driver is already pretty advanced 18.54.11 # or own usb would be the proper fix of course :) 18.54.35 # re: -> "", I think Windows Media Player uses "Unknown Artist - Unknown Album" for untagged files 18.55.10 # unknown would probably work best in english as well 18.55.26 # Lear: you mean you have same problem than http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg167467#msg167467 ? 18.55.43 # kugel: yeah i think so 18.55.50 # at least confuse less translators ;) 18.56.07 # "Band %d Frequency" (desc: in sound_menu, hardware equalizer tone controls shelf filter cutoff frequency) <- is that cutoff freuency of e.g. "band 1"? 18.56.26 # we need opinions of english speakers 18.56.41 # ok, switching to unknown for the German translation 18.56.54 # err... unbekannt ;) 18.57.06 # ;) 18.57.40 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.57.47 Join AlexP [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 18.57.48 # pixelma: looks like it (reading settings_list.c:576) 18.58.24 # * kugel packs his samsung yh-j70, hopefully some cf/iriver x/m guru wants to hack on it 18.59.11 # I just soo dislike Deppenleerzeichen and would like to reorder the words of "Band %d Frequenz" 19.00.35 # "Frequenzband %d" 19.01.30 # yeah I thought of Frequenzband but I wasn't sure if that would fit the setting 19.02.15 # Looking at settings_list.c I think it almost does. 19.02.29 # Isn't it more like the center frequency of the band? 19.02.31 # funman: No problem patching. 19.02.37 # Or flashing. 19.02.44 # kugel: I'm looking at a 8-10 second delay between selecting music and it coming out the headphones, that includes more than a second for it to stop the currently playing song. Also, it was about 5 seconds from selecting the same song as is playing and it coming out the headphones 19.03.01 Join Luca_S [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 19.03.13 # (Still refering to the Fuze v2) 19.03.37 # ranma: I wasn't sure if it implies some frequency setting for the (frequency) band, not of the "frequency band" 19.04.07 # unfortunately I don't know equalizer settings well enough 19.04.40 # I threw about 5 songs on the player plus about 2775 other audio files which are no more than a minute each 19.05.05 # * ranma doesn't use eq either 19.06.33 # kisak: from µSD ? 19.06.52 # funman: I do not have any microSD 19.07.10 # kisak: works fine for me (r26514) 19.07.36 # try disabling your settings one by one to see if they are the problem 19.07.53 # I have 26458 here 19.08.13 # you should always update your build before reporting bugs in case they have already been fixed 19.09.04 # How did you translate that "knee" in sound settings? 19.09.46 # funman: ok, will do after some grub 19.10.45 # Ok, since it's 'shelf frequency', assuming it's a low-shelf filter it should be the upper boundary frequency of the filter for band %d? 19.11.03 # (Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_design) 19.11.40 Quit whydoubt (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.11.42 # funman, I think the clip wps looks fine (although I'm not completely sure I'm looking at the right one) 19.12.06 # bertrik: just remove the .sansaclip.wps and run make install to have to good cabbiev2 19.12.08 # why is there "Band %d Gain" and "%d Hz Band Gain"? 19.12.11 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 19.12.16 # "Grenzfrequenz Band %d" 19.12.16 # the one i modified should have "Next: " info 19.12.28 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 19.12.38 # I see in r26485 there was a BOM (Byte Order Mask) added in chinese-simp.lang, does langtool handle that, 19.12.55 # ranma: thanks, sounds good 19.14.50 # New commit by 03funman (r26515): change version for upcoming 3.6 release 19.15.50 # selecting chinese language still shows language so i guess it works 19.16.00 # still shows chinese* 19.20.44 Join CFP [0] (~Clement@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 19.21.08 # Bollocks, release notes 19.21.22 # I forgot about those, and doing them is a massive PITA 19.21.29 # Ah well, time to get busy I suppose 19.23.12 # funman, I find the clip wps a bit weird now that the "x of x" and the track time are no longer shown directly below the progress bar 19.23.20 # got the German update almost ready, just a short review and I can commit it 19.23.40 # also, I think it showed the volume as a number before 19.24.31 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.24.50 # kugel, pixelma: dict.cc says hotkey -> Hotkey 19.24.57 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 19.26.11 # hrmm... "mouse mode" etc. was changed to just "mouse" in the USB screen when showing the HID mode, a bit spartanic I'd say 19.26.21 Quit wincent (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.27.17 # I'll do the same for German for now though 19.28.36 # funman, but I do appreciate any effort to remove the special case for the clip cabbiev2 wps 19.31.41 Quit phanboy4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.35.55 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.41.24 # some comments on my translation? But quick... http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1876740 19.48.51 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.49.50 # ok, 5 minutes 19.54.11 # pixelma: why s/bildschirm/schirm/? 19.55.53 # Bildschirm sounds like something bigger to me (more like monitor) 19.56.31 # I actually played with the thought of using "Anzeige" but wanted to stay consistent 19.57.47 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.58.03 # I find both weird, but just schirm more 19.58.38 # pixelma: Does metronome work on c200 now? So FS#8659 can be closed? 19.58.48 # yes 19.59.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.59.22 # OK 19.59.28 # But we have "closing old bugs" on the agenda for DevCon! We'll be bored if you close it now! 19.59.30 # I think Bildschirm for actual displays is fine, I think Anzeige is better for screen as in while playing screen 19.59.48 # gevaerts: I want to put it fixed in the release notes :) 20.00.06 # there's no need to be consistent if they mean different things IMO 20.01.00 # funman: I tried your suggested OF mod. 20.01.34 # It's promising, but something is still not working yet. Do you have a dump of the OF area you can send me? 20.01.47 # ranma: OF area? 20.02.04 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 20.02.20 # The first 0xF0000 sectors of the internal SD, where the OF is stored. 20.02.22 # ah ok 20.02.25 # no i don't :/ 20.02.33 # IIRC there was some additional data there too, right? 20.02.41 # yeah it was needed for fuzev1 20.02.51 # JdGordon: you have dumped the OF data when doing recovery ? 20.03.54 # kugel: ok, I misremembered. Bildschirm is used for other display settings too , so I'll change it back 20.03.55 # bertrik: i don't know since you made the wps it is up to you (i use another theme personally) 20.04.27 # I just modified the existing one a bit for the clip 20.04.27 # kugel: Anzeige.. hmm... could work a bit better for those screen designs 20.04.29 # bertrik: perhaps some modifications you have made on clip wps would be nice on iriver remote too 20.06.07 # kugel: would it be ok to have "Hotkeyfunktion im WPS", seeing as WPS isn't translated either 20.06.45 # Wiedergabebildschirm is just such a long word - and I could keep it in the voice string 20.07.11 # With the unpatched OF it hangs at 0x3c6c 20.07.16 # err... would be Wiedergabeanzeige then but that sounds weird too 20.07.50 # With the patched OF I get: "target halted in Thumb state due to breakpoint, current mode: Supervisor\ncpsr: 0x00000073 pc: 0x30000000" 20.07.58 # ranma: which version of the OF ? 20.07.59 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.08.12 # Right people, I've done some release notes: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes36 20.08.19 # Please add/edit/whatever 20.08.24 # 30000000 is ok then? it's where we load rockbox.sansa 20.08.25 # clipplus01.02.09.zip 20.08.44 # AlexP: great 20.08.53 # I suspect it tried to load some overlay from SD and execute it and that went wrong 20.09.15 # AlexP: how long do I have? ;) 20.09.20 # pixelma: I think so 20.09.24 # ranma: 3c6c is a simple delay? 20.09.28 # I just put the 16MB firmware without the header onto SD 20.09.41 # you must the whole file 20.09.43 Join Strife89|PalmTX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-80-138-227.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.10.04 # funman: Yeah, some function with a delay and because it spents most of the time in the delay that's where I see it when I halt the cpu. 20.10.07 # pixelma: I said "was released" then today's date, so... :) 20.10.23 # funman: Ah, so including the headers? 20.10.36 # AlexP: under fixed bugs - Core - Nano2G? 20.10.41 # Let's try that then... 20.11.07 # mc2739: Good point 20.12.09 # we don't have a release for the nano2g, do we? 20.12.09 # mc2739: I just went through the commits since 3.5 and took all the ones that mentioned a FS bug fix that were opened before 3.5 without thinking overly 20.12.18 # kugel: No, so I've removed it 20.12.41 # kugel: He was pointing out that I shouldn't have mentioned a bug fix for a non-release target 20.13.27 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p548512F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.13.31 Quit bieber (Remote host closed the connection) 20.13.34 # oh, I thought he was pointing out the question mark behind Nano2G (because it's detected as wiki word). my bad 20.13.45 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 20.13.46 # should i put the freeze bugfix for sansa ams v1 ? 20.13.57 # Sure 20.14.00 # yes 20.14.17 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 20.14.26 # if it existed at 3.5 yes, otherwise no IMO 20.14.51 # yeah, exactly 20.14.54 # I'm under the impression it wasn't in 3.5, but I'm not so sure anymore 20.14.55 # i didn't test 3.5 20.15.10 # the FS# first reported on ~r24000 i think 20.15.16 # New commit by 03pixelma (r26516): Update German translation - with the help of Thomas Martitz, Tobias Diedrich and some inspiration from patches in the tracker. 20.15.32 # We decided that if things were introduced then fixed within a release cycle that they shouldn't get mentioned as for people going from one release to another they wouldn't have seen it 20.15.54 # yes it says r24000 and 3.5 was around r25000 20.16.03 # AlexP: true 20.16.05 # coolio then :) 20.16.22 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@adsl-75-45-230-68.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 20.16.23 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Changing host) 20.16.23 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 20.16.23 Quit jhMikeS (Disconnected by services) 20.16.45 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 20.16.54 # AlexP: still need to port it to the release branch but wanted to wait until the results of the build round are ok 20.17.03 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@f050237063.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.17.05 # OK 20.17.14 Quit bertrik (*.net *.split) 20.17.14 Quit mc2739 (*.net *.split) 20.17.14 Quit kisak (*.net *.split) 20.17.14 Quit sinthetek (*.net *.split) 20.17.43 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 20.17.46 # Does anyone want to do the things marked FLASH on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseChecklist ? 20.18.30 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 20.18.53 # isn't the question: "do we want new flash packages to accompany the release ?" 20.19.18 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.19.38 # New commit by 03pixelma (r26517): Update German translation - with the help of Thomas Martitz, Tobias Diedrich and some inspiration from patches in the tracker. 20.20.23 Join kisak [0] (~kisak@c-98-235-209-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 20.21.28 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 20.22.11 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 20.22.30 # there you go. Thanks again kugel and ranma 20.22.46 # pixelma: you're welcome :) 20.23.35 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@59.151.204-77.rev.gaoland.net) 20.25.16 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.27.43 Quit Strife89|PalmTX (Quit: Leaving) 20.29.08 # New commit by 03ranma (r26518): Using void instead of unsigned char fixes the strict-aliasing warnings with -Os and gets rid of some casts. And we already use void pointer arithmetic ... 20.32.46 Nick pamaury_ is now known as pamaury (~pamaury@p5DDECECE.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.33.01 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 20.33.01 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.35.56 Quit CFP (Quit: Quitte) 20.42.38 # New commit by 03bieber (r26519): Theme Editor: Refactored main window init code, moved parse tree into dock widget 20.46.50 Join kaylinsigsworth [0] (~Zigtown@CPE00259ce0fdb2-CM0014f8cc807a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.48.03 Join Jerom [0] (~Jerom@79.132.52.105) 20.48.08 # gevaerts (others): would the D2 be able to use MMCs? 20.49.24 # I thought SD and MMC protocol are close enough and since MMCs are the thinner ones I guess it should work with some more or less "simple" changes 20.51.05 # no idea 20.51.25 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 20.52.30 # pixelma: i have never actually seen a mmc card but most of the controllers are set up for either/or. Does the mmc card fit in the slot? 20.54.42 # FlynDice: it should (but not vice versa as a standard SD is thicker)... gevaerts - you could try with MMCs I have for my Ondio 20.58.31 Quit Jerom (Remote host closed the connection) 21.02.36 Join Jerom [0] (~Jerom@79.132.52.105) 21.11.42 Part watto 21.36.45 Join Peter93 [0] (~IRC-Clien@port-92-202-72-84.dynamic.qsc.de) 21.36.53 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.37.47 # Yes, MMC support on SD targets is just a question of protocols 21.38.15 Quit kaylinsigsworth (Remote host closed the connection) 21.38.22 # We could even support SD on Ondios if they would fit 21.38.24 # So, what is next for release? 21.43.43 # AlexP: you have the builds/manuals? 21.43.51 # nope 21.44.06 # I can do that, but not for half an hour or so 21.44.19 # * funman looks for a fast machine 21.45.07 # 4*3GHz but it runs OSX, is that a problem? 21.45.46 # Wouldn't have thought so if everything will build 21.46.32 # should i make the builds then ? 21.47.10 # If you could that'd be great 21.47.35 # What is a fast machine for you ? 21.49.42 # i just need to build the compilers first 21.59.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.05.57 # New commit by 03bieber (r26520): Theme Editor: Mocked up most of the UI, added View menu items for all dockable widgets 22.06.15 # ./release/tarball.sh: line 28: 7zr: command not found 22.07.12 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 22.12.15 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.12.19 # * funman bangs head 22.12.36 # i could build the tarball here but then I don't have a svn checkout 22.14.06 Quit Peter93 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.16.29 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 22.20.58 # funman: I can, but still not for a bit sadly :/ 22.22.30 # * AlexP kicks gevaerts 22.23.20 # it's ok 22.24.54 # 7zr is part of package p7zip (if that's any help at all) 22.25.03 # svn: This client is too old to work with working copy 'tools'; please get a newer Subversion client 22.25.07 # ? Oo 22.25.37 # Any artist types feel like designing an icon for the theme editor? 22.28.33 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100527093236]) 22.28.52 # -> building 22.29.09 # AlexP: did I deserve this? 22.30.24 # not sure if i can make manual/voices though 22.31.07 # gevaerts: Not in particular :) I was going to ask if you could do a little building, but funman seems to be on it 22.31.56 # Undefined subroutine &main::stablebuilds called at ./tools/release/voices.pl line 76. 22.32.02 # (on osx and linux) 22.32.08 # same for manuals 22.32.15 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 22.32.51 # I can do manuals and voices 22.33.07 # Last time people weren't happy about the quality of the voices I built though 22.33.28 # They can do them then :) 22.33.42 # funman: same here... 22.37.09 # the scripts have not changed so probably some of their dependancy 22.37.32 # no, they're broken 22.38.10 # hm I see that tools/builds.pm has some version information too 22.38.33 Quit Galois (Quit: Leaving) 22.38.55 # however I don't see it being used at all, so we should be good 22.39.21 # It's used on the server 22.39.43 Quit Jaykay (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 22.40.21 # funman: the bins are building fine? 22.40.49 # so far yes 22.41.43 # archos, ipods, irivers are done 22.42.32 # http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ 22.43.39 # osx doesn't know about 'xargs' 22.43.58 # huh? 22.44.37 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 22.44.42 # ah someone fucked up PATH 22.45.26 # it was in /usr/bin 22.45.43 # gevaerts: do you want to commit fixes for manual/voice scripts? 22.46.05 # yes, but they're not sufficient yet... 22.46.43 # 17 minutes for the builds 22.46.52 # http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ has them all 22.48.08 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26521): Update version 22.48.34 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26522): Half-fix voice and manual build scripts 22.49.30 # should give me some time to see what's wrong with osx xargs (now that i have it in path) 22.50.10 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26523): Half-fix voice and manual build scripts 22.50.17 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26524): Update version 22.50.35 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 22.50.38 Quit halmi (Quit: halmi) 22.51.20 # New commit by 03bieber (r26525): Theme Editor: Added a window icon and made menus alt-navigable 22.52.21 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 22.53.03 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.53.41 # ah, it's the gnu cp options 22.53.44 # New commit by 03bieber (r26526): Theme Editor: Added missing copyright headers 22.55.33 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26527): Fix voice and manual build scripts 22.55.59 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li14-39.members.linode.com) 22.56.28 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26528): Fix voice and manual build scripts 22.57.25 Quit tom` (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.58.39 # New commit by 03funman (r26529): tarball script: use gcp when cp isn't GNU cp 22.59.55 # http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ <- added gigabeatf, iaudios and fonts 23.01.15 # http://pastebin.org/304603 < md5sums signed by me 23.01.55 # hum fuze build lacks rockbox.sansa 23.03.05 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26530): Fix voice and manual build scripts even more 23.04.05 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26531): Fix voice and manual build scripts even more 23.05.33 # it's there if i build it alone :/ 23.06.39 # gevaerts: if you are making each commit twice, don't bother. we can merge all the commits in trunk later, no? 23.06.40 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.06.53 # make: vfork: Resource temporarily unavailable 23.06.58 # funman: yes, but every time I think it's the last one! 23.07.09 # Shall I do the bins too? 23.07.13 # no i can redo them 23.07.19 # ok 23.07.24 # or you mean, fix the bins script ? O:-) 23.07.28 # no :) 23.07.40 # That's Bagder's job! He knows perl! 23.08.15 # i'll just remove -j and 2>/dev/null 23.10.22 # New commit by 03funman (r26532): bins.pl script: don't hide errors, they might be useful ... 23.11.06 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 23.11.09 Join tom` [0] (~tom@WS1-DSL-74-83-48-45.fuse.net) 23.14.00 # New commit by 03funman (r26533): bins.pl script: don't hide errors, they might be useful ... 23.14.00 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.14.03 # shall i build the source tarball now? 23.14.27 # make: *** No rule to make target `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/pluginbitmaps/rockboxlogo.h', needed by `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/apps/plugins/logo.o'. Stop. 23.14.31 # make: *** No rule to make target `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/pluginbitmaps/rockboxlogo.h', needed by `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/apps/plugins/logo.o'. Stop. 23.15.24 # funman: what make command is that? 23.15.37 # sorry? 23.15.57 # funman: is that a normal build? 23.16.03 # well yes? 23.16.09 # i'm using bins.pl 23.16.10 # so 3.6 is broken? 23.16.16 # yes but i can remake the build 23.16.21 # it's a race condition 23.16.31 # cat: /Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-iaudiom3/apps/features: No such file or directory 23.16.38 # * kugel thought that was connected to "shall i build the source tarball now?" 23.17.24 # hm the 2 errors go together 23.17.40 # also /Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/apps/plugins/lua/lvm.c:762: warning: visibility attribute not supported in this configuration; ignored 23.18.19 # no target is listed for this (i forgot to use -v) 23.20.25 Join froggyman [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 23.21.09 # the perl script doesn't error out if make errors 23.21.33 Quit GeekShad0w (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23.23.42 # iaudiom3 (at least) triggers lua warnings 23.24.13 Quit mischasworld (Remote host closed the connection) 23.24.42 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.25.37 # I think I saw those visibility attribute warnings in cygwin or crosscompiled sim builds, they don't do harm there 23.25.59 # make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. 23.25.59 # make: *** No rule to make target `zip'. Stop. 23.26.10 # now let's try to find which target it was .. 23.26.55 Join MarcelloC [0] (~Marcello@142.47.132.6) 23.27.47 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 23.27.47 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 23.27.47 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 23.29.15 # how can I add a client to the buildsystem ? 23.30.08 # funman: tools/builds.pm 23.30.28 # mc2739: i mean a computer :) 23.30.43 # to build targets, not a target to be builtr 23.30.45 # -r 23.32.16 # funman: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildClient 23.32.32 # thanks 23.34.52 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@g227007123.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.34.55 Quit wincent (Client Quit) 23.35.05 # Manuals and voices at http://files.hostname.be/3.6/ 23.35.48 # good work chaps :) 23.36.50 # there is something wrong with the fuze svg in Quick Start 23.36.55 # So I guess now it just needs Bagder to stick them on the server 23.37.35 # +edit http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info 23.38.22 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzzz) 23.38.26 # c200 looks ok - i am using evince 23.38.26 # Does someone fancy tagging it? 23.39.10 # AlexP: IIRC that one is autogenerated 23.39.23 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@g227007123.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.39.24 # i have the web page update queued up to commit whenever you are ready for it 23.39.35 # team work! 23.39.46 # gevaerts: OK, I'm just going by http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseChecklist 23.39.54 Quit wincent (Changing host) 23.39.54 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/wincent) 23.40.26 # AlexP: ask Bagder to make sure I guess 23.40.34 # yeah 23.40.42 # We need him to move files etc. anyway 23.41.51 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC) 23.41.52 # http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ (gigabeatfx building) 23.42.07 # funman: the fuze svg in Quick Start seems to be fine with xpdf 23.42.17 # tell me when the bins are complete 23.42.19 # funman: how wrong? 23.42.20 # ok, i checked the html and it was fine 23.42.45 # Bagder: yeah sorry, I thought they were 23.43.07 # funman: I have a suspicion or two without even looking at it, you can show me tomorrow 23.43.09 # http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ <- all the bins + fonts are there, although please test at least some of them to make sure 23.43.11 # tools/builds.pm is what controls what the latest release is called 23.44.27 # pixelma: http://i.imgur.com/fyEvD.png 23.44.35 # 3.6 build works fine on fuze (including voice) 23.46.07 # i'm building the source tarball 23.47.00 # funman: I definitely don't see that with xpdf 23.47.13 Quit whydoubt (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.47.17 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 23.47.59 # hm there's a lot of RC files in there too 23.48.30 # can you (re)move them? 23.48.49 # Bagder: ? 23.49.04 # hm 23.49.10 # bad argument to wget I guess 23.49.19 # weird tool ;-) 23.49.25 # yeah, get curl O:-) 23.50.25 # Bagder: just added rockbox-3.6.7z 23.50.46 # now i'm looking if i can add this machine to buildsystem 23.51.40 Quit kenguest (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.53.03 # all files in place 23.53.25 Join Track11 [0] (~track11@p57B7FD75.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.53.47 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 23.53.47 # hey 23.55.22 Join kenguest [0] (~radagast@lir.talideon.com) 23.55.44 # funman: I can't find anything of the typically troublesome stuff in the svg 23.56.10 # pixelma: probably my pdf viewer 23.56.48 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.58.14 # what's on rockbox-rbclient mailing list? only there for people not on irc? 23.58.17 # Search over two weeks. I need one answer. Got a brand new Sansa Fuze v2 (2.03.31P) . I tested 5 different ways but it did nothing. The Fuze wouldnt start the "flash process".. only "database update" after disconnect /reboot twice.. Will it ever go? sry 4my bad english