--- Log for 05.06.110 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 8 hours ago 00.00.33 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@2001:0:4137:9e74:0:fbf8:beb1:ba3d) 00.01.26 # sigh, we have several strings that are the same in english.lang and translated to the same thing in the majority of languages but differs in one or a few... 00.02.58 Part DomasoFan ("I'm a happy Miranda IM user! Get it here: http://miranda-im.org") 00.09.14 # "Flyspray contains 460 open patches" is just insane 00.09.21 Mode "#rockbox -o Bagder" by Bagder (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 00.10.15 # yes, yes it is 00.11.15 Quit DataGhost (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.11.50 # isn't it a good time to start sorting them out? I bet quite a lot are outdated 00.12.07 # * S_a_i_n_t wonders about the percentage of those patches that actually stand a chance of being committed. 00.12.28 Join JohannesSM64 [0] (~johannes@cm-84.209.35.116.getinternet.no) 00.12.58 # bluebroth3r: maybe but since i don't know these languages it's hard to know, i could post it to the ML if i find enough cases i suppose 00.13.16 # or maybe that wasn't directed at me :) 00.13.28 # S_a_i_n_t: 17.3% 00.13.52 # n1s: I was referring to the number of open patches in FS :) 00.24.55 Join hamish_ [0] (~hamish@119.224.50.74) 00.30.36 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 00.32.52 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 00.33.19 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.43) 00.40.55 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.43.45 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.43.52 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 00.53.08 Join Astroe [0] (~AstroN@c-24-20-48-71.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 00.56.28 # Hey, can anyone help me out? I'm having some trouble with an install here. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and trying to install rockbox onto a sansa v2. 01.00.28 # wincent: sorry for the late feedback -> pcsim on cygwin works now 01.01.39 # Buschel: I supposed it should. I had problems with dependencies in pdbox earlier;gevaerts helped me. 01.02.56 # wincent: great, I've learned from the fix as well :o) 01.03.04 # Astroe: we can only help if you ask a question... :-) 01.04.15 # Well I've been following the directions rockbox has but when I get to the part where I need the terminal it always finds some error message to spit at me. 01.04.43 # This time is was telling me there is no such file or directory when I tried to run the mkamsboot. 01.06.18 # how did you try to run it? 01.07.37 # I've tried to run /mkamsboot and ./mkamsboot 01.07.50 # from the folder it was in 01.08.08 Quit ender` (Quit: According to the FAA, the propeller blade didn't break off, it was just a case of "uncontained blade liberation.") 01.08.27 # ./mkamsboot should work 01.08.41 # what is the begining part of the error message? bash: or mksamsboot: 01.08.51 # Buschel: Do you intend to try further optimizations or can I close the FS task? 01.09.16 # Astroe: what sansa is this ? and why dont you use Rockbox Utillity ? 01.10.04 # When I ran /mkamsboot it told me bash: there is no such file or directory and when i ran /.mkamsboot it said bash: ./mkamsboot: Permission denied 01.10.17 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.10.29 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 01.10.36 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 01.10.37 # wincent: you may close it. 01.10.39 # And I can't use the utility. It's a Fuze v2, the utility doesnt support v2 yet 01.11.15 # permission denied shouldn't happen 01.11.22 # did you download this file or compile it? 01.11.32 # Downloaded it. 01.11.50 # then you need to run chmod +x mkamsboot if you trust the source 01.12.35 # New commit by 03amiconn (r26562): Port greylib blitting optimisation to clipv2 and Clip+. Actual speedup can't be measured because something is fishy with the cpu clocking (calculated ... 01.13.17 Join TexasRockbox [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 01.13.20 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01.13.50 # Sweet. Thanks tmzt 01.14.08 # Is the .fms code enabled for iPod 5.5g with build 3.6? 01.14.16 # New commit by 03peter (r26563): Fix some untranslated strings in the Dutch langfile 01.14.37 # TexasRockbox: Yes 01.15.43 # OK, thank you. I tried to create a quick .fms file, selected the .fms in themes and I seem to get nothing.. I'll keep working at it. 01.16.32 # Astroe: Rockbox Utility does support the Fuze v2 if you compile from sources. 01.17.09 # if you give me a couple of minutes I can build a binary from svn. Building takes a bit though (at least on the machine I've set that up) 01.17.16 # bluebroth3r: I am very new to linux. I don't know how to compile. 01.17.25 Quit TexasRockbox (Client Quit) 01.19.59 # New commit by 03peter (r26564): More untranslated strings in Dutch langfile. Note to self: next time update to head before running genlang. 01.20.43 # n1s: can you commit this too? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11354 01.22.19 # funman: are you there? 01.23.30 # Astroe: build running. Should be done in 10 Minutes or so 01.24.22 # bluebroth3r: It's all good man. I got it installed. 01.24.48 # ok. 01.26.42 # Quit: one-armed man applauds the kindness of strangers 01.26.44 # does anyone have a nano2g and the ability to measure current drawn over USB? :) 01.26.47 Quit Astroe (Quit: Leaving) 01.27.43 # * bluebroth3r only has the former 01.28.18 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.28.21 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 01.29.58 # literal: i'd rather wait until i'm done with this cleanup i'm working on which should be tomorrow 01.30.29 # bluebroth3r: we're going to build the reuired hardware (a usb cable with a multimeter spliced in) but nobody appears to have a nano2g at devcon 01.30.35 # I'm considering to close various old feature requests. What do the others thing? 01.30.50 # Torne: too bad :( 01.31.09 # n1s: ok 01.31.29 # if I had a spare Ipod cable I could try building one up tomorrow. Though my multimeter is a really cheap one so might be not suited at all 01.31.59 # are you working on the charging stuff? Or is that for general power consumption? 01.32.30 # hmm, maybe I should try to buy a cheap ipod cable tomorrow :) 01.32.41 # i am indeed working on the charging stuff 01.33.25 # ah, we have a cable made up, in fact :) 01.34.09 # it's not urgent 01.34.13 # i wouldn't worry about it :) 01.34.24 # i'll pester theseven as i suspect he's already tested this 01.34.43 Quit Zagor (Quit: Leaving) 01.34.46 Quit JohannesSM64 (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 01.35.01 Quit Domonoky1 (Quit: Leaving.) 01.36.00 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 01.36.36 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.36.55 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.36.58 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 01.37.34 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.39.34 # Torne: would be great to have proper usb charging on the ipods 01.39.42 # If anyone has any stuff they want to do that breaks the lang order tomorrow will be a good day to do it or tell me about it and i'll try to include it in my megapatch 01.40.42 # bluebrother: yes, that's what i'm doing 01.40.54 # bluebrother: i've almost finished the infrastructure for a better way of handling usb charging in general 01.41.00 # and i have working usb charging on ipodvideo 01.41.21 # there's code to do it on several other models as well but i'll need to test it 01.41.22 Quit storm` () 01.41.28 # will do it tomorrow on any models we hav ehandy here ;) 01.42.25 # wow, we made it to lwn.net news with our release 01.42.46 # nice 01.45.15 Quit Buschel () 01.46.49 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.48.25 # Torne: great. I can test on mini2g and nano2g (and on some non-ipod players). Should be doable for me by modifying a usb extension cable :) 01.48.33 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.50.36 # is goban a pure viewer or can it also play (i.e. gnugo)? 01.52.15 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.54.37 # bluebrother: IIUC, it can also be used as a viewer 01.55.50 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzz) 01.56.38 # Torne: RE: Nano2g+current draw, is it possible to add that info to the debug screen? 01.56.58 # If so, I could check it quite easily...I cannot find my multimeter 01.57.13 # (and I've checked *everywhere*) 01.57.51 # It's also a long weekend/public holiday here so I haven't been able to purchase one either to check the draw from the Nanos over USB 01.58.53 # S_a_i_n_t, where dp you live? 01.59.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.01.19 # hamish_: Um...why? 02.01.34 # just curious as to what the long holiday was :P 02.01.59 # "Queens Birthday Weekend" though, that is wildly off-topic 02.15.35 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 02.18.46 # Torne: pong 02.18.58 # what exactly do you need regarding nano2g power consumption? 02.21.58 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.23.31 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.23.55 # wincent: 1 02.23.58 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 02.24.01 # oops 02.34.18 # literal: 0 :-) 02.34.29 Join Majko11 [0] (~iho@93-136-104-96.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 02.35.01 # that was a failed attempt at typing /window 1 02.38.16 # Hello world! :D I have a question about my Rockboxed Sansa e280 Rhapsody 02.38.48 # The recording feature is absolutely stunning, does wavpack for awesome big recordings 02.38.56 # but the sample rate cap is at 22.05kHz 02.39.05 # TheSeven: do you have any assembly or other such fun things from the nano4g to look at? :) 02.39.22 # yep 02.39.28 # loads of that 02.39.38 # way too much crap to ever dig through... 02.39.40 # The microphone seems good enough for higher sample rates, say CD or even 48kHz like my terrible old Quadro mp3 i got for 3 bucks can :) 02.40.26 # I can't seem to find in the PP5024 datasheet, if it allows 44 or 48kHz ADC 02.40.27 # TheSeven: oh, i was hoping to do some light digging but that doesn't sound too promising 02.40.48 # basically i'm still stuck in that efi hell 02.41.07 # Majko11: i'm fairly certain it's a limitation of the hardware, probably the DAC 02.41.12 # we will probably need some kind of automated data flow tracker to finally sort this out 02.41.42 # TheSeven: would trying an emulator make any sense? 02.42.22 # if that emulator would be good enough, maybe yes, but it'll probably have to emulate a lot of peripherals to work correctly up to a point where the interesting things start 02.42.24 # n1s: I don't know, like I said, I own something that could be the worst player you can find these days, and it can do 48kHz, but it's software is very buggy so it's only 256MB so it won't serve it's purpose 02.42.52 # Majko11: that is entirely irrelevant 02.43.24 # what we basically need to do is build a control flow and data flow graph, to find all calls to the efi boot services, especially that installMultipleProtocolInterfaces function 02.43.33 # TheSeven: so how would one get "that efi hell" to play with? :) 02.43.42 # once we got them all, track down which GUIDs get registered to which function tables 02.44.32 # n1s: ok, it's still like a developer or someone familiar with the PP5024 to confirm that the maximum sample rate we can get out of it is 22.05k. Thank you! :) 02.44.42 # i'd still like* 02.44.59 # wow, that sounds a bit complicated for a dap bootloader O_o 02.46.33 # but how did you get the decrypted code, not that i think i could solve that thing... 02.47.01 # then track down all the calls to those function tables, and in the end build an xref graph of all the function calls to the functions where they actually end up 02.47.16 # max sample rate is 22k or 32k IIRC 02.47.16 # by decrypting it :-) 02.47.36 # we have an exploit at the bootrom stage, which they can't fix 02.47.55 # and we have figured out how to use the AES coprocessor :-) 02.48.15 # ah, didn't know that, so a somewhat proper bootloader could be made then? 02.48.57 # yep, but we need to figure out how all the other peripherals work before we can actually write some code 02.49.23 # saratoga: I haven't tried recording radio with the original or rockbox software, but the original fw used 16khz for mic, and rockbox offers only 22k for both. Datasheet says that the chip also has a line-in which probably suggests for some higher rates, but line-in didn't make it out on the sansa 02.49.36 # currently, we have working drivers for usb (control and bulk), the lcd and the backlight 02.49.37 # aha, i've been a bit out of the loop, thought you were still looking for a better exploit 02.49.48 # neither flash nor clickwheel yet :-/ 02.50.09 # the first sansa bootloaders had neither lcd, nor flash iirc :) 02.50.32 # is that stuff on the l4n site? 02.50.44 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@106.203.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) 02.51.16 # the drivers are in my sourcecode snapshot, but we can't share disassemblies for obvious reasons :-) 02.51.35 # yes 02.51.37 # http://the-seven.tk/download/ipod/snapshot-201003100430-public.7z 02.51.54 # see /nano4g and /tools/ibugger/nano4g 02.52.30 # does ibugger work via this bootrom hole or the old notes thing? 02.52.40 # both 02.53.11 # ah 02.53.24 # however, the lcd and sdram will only work if run through the notes exploit, because we don't know how to properly initialize that yet, and the bootrom exploit kicks in before the OFW can initialize it 02.54.36 # i suppose there is no chance of hooking up jtag or something and listening in what the OF does? 02.55.03 Quit voRia (Quit: Leaving.) 02.59.39 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.227.74) 03.01.55 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 03.02.10 Nick CGL is now known as emo_CGL (~CGL@190.207.227.74) 03.02.46 Nick emo_CGL is now known as emo_[CGL] (~CGL@190.207.227.74) 03.06.28 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-057-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.23.01 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 03.24.46 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 03.28.26 Join storm` [0] (~lol@c-76-28-28-156.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 03.31.10 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 03.39.17 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.178) 03.42.53 Quit Beta2K (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.48.20 Join Beta2K [0] (~Beta2K@d24-36-97-38.home1.cgocable.net) 03.57.23 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-237-113-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.58.12 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03.59.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.01.21 Join kaylinsigsworth [0] (~Zigtown@CPE00259ce0fdb2-CM0014f8cc807a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.06.53 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.10.53 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.11.31 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 04.40.52 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f69d7.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.42.13 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.52.26 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.52.26 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.52.48 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.54.02 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.54.04 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.54.28 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.56.33 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 05.02.46 Quit togetic (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.08.01 Quit moparx (Quit: moparx) 05.08.19 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 05.11.04 Quit Majko11 () 05.21.42 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 05.40.52 Quit hamish_ (Remote host closed the connection) 05.50.00 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.51.56 Nick emo_[CGL] is now known as [CGL] (~CGL@190.207.227.74) 05.53.08 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.59.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.08.05 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 06.14.18 Quit Llorean (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.15.09 Quit jhMikeS () 06.15.55 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@adsl-99-158-45-131.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 06.23.22 Join hamish_ [0] (~hamish@119.224.50.74) 06.27.17 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 06.41.17 Join VCR-clock [0] (~wut@85.26.234.154) 06.41.55 Quit VCR-clock (Client Quit) 07.34.03 Quit hideki (Quit: さようăȘら) 07.35.38 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.35.52 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.37.17 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.40.53 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590ffe46.pool.mediaWays.net) 07.43.27 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.52.07 # how could i help in making a nes emulator for rockbox? 07.53.11 # you could write or port one? ;) 07.56.48 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 07.56.56 Join saratoga [0] (~9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-fvzpqdpfhtmnyfnc) 07.59.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.01.23 # well 08.01.34 # i'm not really sure how to make a rock yet 08.04.07 # what sort of battery life are you getting on a Clip+ with Rockbox? 08.05.00 # I'm almost done with a battery life test and it seems like it will be 13 hours 08.05.05 # I'm wondering how typical that is 08.05.25 Join ucchan [0] (~ucchan@softbank126102044026.bbtec.net) 08.08.50 # sounds pretty good to me 08.18.45 # I will commit the new text viewer plugin (FS#11209) because the problem reports are little (1post only). 08.21.17 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 08.22.12 # Please give the comment to me when you are disagreement, 08.30.33 # ucchan: ping 08.32.20 # saratoga whats? 08.32.29 # did you get my email about TTA licensing? 08.34.16 # Mail is not sent. 08.34.47 # Licence violation? 08.35.21 # ucchan: the TTA people want to know if you will license your ASM code under BSD so they can merge it back into the official TTA decoder 08.38.26 # also, they said the arm code would be helpful for their encoder too 08.39.21 # thanks. I will contact True Audio Codec Software. 08.40.04 # ald at true-audio.com 08.40.36 # also, I tried your yoshihisa.uchida at gmail account, is that correct? 08.41.12 # Yes. this address is my official e-mail address. 08.41.39 # strange that it did not work 08.42.24 # does not reach? I don't check for a while. 08.42.49 # if you would email them it would be great, they've been asking me for a few days now if they can use your code 08.42.53 # anyway, i need sleep 08.44.16 # sorry. I read now. 08.46.07 Join paddymelon [0] (~paddy_mel@unaffiliated/paddymelon/x-873732) 08.50.47 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.59.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.04.59 # Hey guys, I run ipodlinux (with ZeroSlacker) and would like to use the rockbox bootloader... how do I set it so it sends certain options to the linux.bin file? Because, currently it can't find root and I need to set root as /dev/hda2 09.05.12 # any bootloader config file? 09.05.42 # You can't. 09.05.59 # there's no way at all? 09.06.15 # You can only send boot options with Loader 2. 09.06.17 # But, that's dumb... doesn't that mean nobody can boot ipodlinux with the bootloader? 09.06.39 # No, the kernel boots fine with no options. 09.07.18 # See, loader2 wont work for me... I just get the 'Not a valid FAT superblock' error so, any other way to boot it with options 09.07.42 # btw, it does need options for zeroslacker... to set the root of linux... maybe the normal kernel doesn't need this 09.08.21 Quit kaylinsigsworth (Remote host closed the connection) 09.08.39 # are there any other bootloaders? 09.08.43 # At all? 09.08.51 # That sounds like a bug in an old version of Loader 2 09.09.05 # There's Loader 0, I don't think you want to use that. 09.09.17 # I'm using the latest from ipodlinux site 09.10.11 # Hmm, could you link me to the page where you downloaded it from? 09.10.35 # one sec... let's find it 09.11.30 # well, now I remember 09.11.35 # in ZeroSlacker 09.11.50 # which was built in like 2007... I'll try the latest loader2 09.12.15 # ... but I have my doubts 09.12.16 # Latest version I have locally is from 2008 09.12.23 # For ZeroSlackr 09.12.48 # ok, I just got the zeroslacker latest from the sourceforge 09.12.57 # like a day ago... (was redoing it all) 09.13.06 # so, is it an OK binary? 09.13.51 # Yep, got the latest version of Loader2 from ZeroSlacker... so stuffed up 09.14.06 # New commit by 03bieber (r26565): Theme Editor: Enabled persistent window and panel locations 09.14.09 # what's loader0 BTW, can't find it on google 09.14.48 # The original bootloader for iPodLinux, I don't think it supports anything above the iPod 3G. 09.14.51 # http://ipodlinux.org/w/images/b/b1/Ipodloader2-2.6.tar.gz 09.15.05 # That's the latest official release of Loader 2. 09.15.16 # Is that the one included in latest ZeroSlacker? 09.15.26 # I don't know 09.15.37 # it was last changed before the latest zeroslacker so I'm guessing it is 09.16.08 # I'll install it and see... 09.19.03 # OK, not working 09.19.13 # same problem with FAT superblock 09.19.15 # I think it would be best to move this to #ipodlinux 09.19.22 # alright, thanks 09.29.13 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host23-166-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.31.39 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C75A.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.32.59 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.34.33 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-75-45-230-68.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 09.34.33 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 09.34.33 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 09.38.32 # New commit by 03bieber (r26566): Theme Editor: Enabled tag closing 09.38.53 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.48.13 Join bertrik_ [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.49.01 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.49.02 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9562.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.51.00 Nick bertrik_ is now known as bertrik (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.51.06 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.51.36 Join Domonoky [0] (~domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 09.52.13 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.59.49 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 09.59.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.00.08 # hi guys. i'm just wondering if there was a problem with your git+svn repository? 10.00.14 # pixelma: pong 10.00.32 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.00.37 # origin/master and git-svn are different commits 10.01.11 Quit p3tur (Remote host closed the connection) 10.01.23 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.01.28 # seems like svn r23188 was amended 10.01.44 # so the old commit is still in the origin/master branch 10.01.48 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.01.52 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.02.27 # if somebody could simply do a hard-reset of the master branch onto git-svn branch head 10.02.37 # JdGordon: wanted to tell you yesterday that remote default fonts are working nicely... and I found out now that your big cuesheet rework broke auto-change directory on Archos (Recorder is affected to if you want to test ;) ). Revisions 21968/9 and r21982 10.03.26 # ok,, that is rather odd (and 3000 revisions ago :/ ) 10.03.51 # yeah, was fun to test 10.04.12 # ok file a bug for it 10.04.31 # alright 10.04.41 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.04.48 # btw, the archos wallwart is 110v only so even though I have a ajbr testing isnt so easy still 10.05.50 # you can charge the batteries in a usual NiMH charger (I have to do that for the Ondio anyways ;) ) 10.06.59 # that would mean buying new batteries 10.07.09 # I tihnk the ones in it are origionals and very dead 10.08.49 # bieber: compile error in themeditor with svn :( 10.09.03 # What's the error? 10.09.10 # Everything was fine on my system :( 10.10.32 # http://pastebin.com/P1bNNRYv 10.10.36 # missing file mybe? 10.11.19 # any server/repositoryadmins online? 10.11.49 # knittl: yes 10.12.08 # Zagor: git-svn and origin/master heads are not the same 10.12.28 # seems like r23188 was amended in svn 10.12.47 # 23188 was ages ago 10.12.50 # i know 10.13.12 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.13.17 # JdGordon: Did you run qmake? It looks like it's only missing stuff from the .ui file 10.13.25 # knittl: I'm not well versed in the ways of git-svn. do you have any idea how to fix it? 10.13.42 # Zagor: well, git diff master git-svn doesn't show any difference 10.13.58 # history is the same, only r23188 is twice in the repo (with and without commit message) 10.14.09 # bieber: yeah, clean and qmake and make. same thing 10.14.15 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.14.21 # quick fix is to git checkout master; git reset --hard git-svn 10.14.31 # this resets the master branch to git-svn 10.14.43 # people using git directly would have to rebase though 10.14.45 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 10.15.15 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 10.15.44 # JdGordon: That's really strange. Let me check out the SVN copy somewhere and see if it compiles for me 10.16.19 Quit Zagor (Remote host closed the connection) 10.17.00 # I did a clean checkout and no problems 10.17.28 # qt3 or 4? 10.17.30 # It looks like for some reason MOC isn't doing its thing properly on the ui file in your copy 10.17.32 # qt4 10.18.09 # lame... :( 10.18.11 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 10.18.16 # qmake-qt4 && make 10.19.08 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 10.19.53 # Have you edited any files locally? 10.20.12 # no 10.21.13 # That's really weird 10.21.55 # pixelma: what was the issue again? if dir advance is on it does what? 10.22.35 # New commit by 03bieber (r26567): Theme Editor: Got document title change signal working, beginning work on save function 10.22.38 # I just committed what I have now, give that a shot 10.23.11 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 10.23.22 # building works fine for me. 10.23.46 # JdGordon: it crashes with a CPUAdrEr in cue_find_current_track 10.24.04 # btw: tried to build the theme editor on Windows yesterday, worked fine. 10.24.33 # How do the movable panels behave on Windows? 10.24.33 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54850F24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.24.38 # bieber: :( no.. 10.24.49 # same as on linux :) 10.24.49 # pixelma: when? 10.24.49 # JdGordon: at the point where it actually needs to advance to a different dir 10.24.53 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 10.25.10 # I'd love to see screenshots from a Mac too, if anyone around here uses one 10.25.38 # I can make one later 10.25.54 # Thanks 10.25.54 # s/one/some/ 10.26.01 # pixelma: I dont suppose anyone there can hook it up to gdb and get a stack trace? 10.26.22 # JdGordon: Maybe try doing an svn co in a fresh dir? 10.26.52 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.27.05 # JdGordon: have you tried completely removing the build folder first? 10.27.16 # JdGordon: I can't (won't work on Ondio anyways) and... 10.27.25 # ah deleted the whole damn folder and svn uped again.. all good 10.27.43 # JdGordon: No, not during devcon. I don't have the necessary tools, serial cable and usb-serial adapter with me 10.27.55 # nuts 10.28.51 # pixelma: is it all folders? and dos the track have a .cue? 10.29.31 # yes all folders, track does not have a cue and cuesheet support enabled or disabled doesn't matter 10.29.46 # Zagor: you can also directly edit the files in .git ^^ 10.30.00 # JdGordon: I got round to testing the cue sheet markers on the FM progress bar - 1) It seems limited in number, and 2) It looks a bit rubbish - http://aeparker.com/files/dump%20100605-092639.png 10.30.30 # knittl: ok. you'll have to walk me through it. 10.30.38 # Zagor: but wait a sec 10.30.47 # i don't know your exact infrastructure 10.30.53 # how do you push/update your git repo? 10.30.57 # AlexP: limited in number? 10.31.04 # knittl: from svn post-commit 10.31.05 # you mean lots missing? 10.31.07 # svn post-commit hook? 10.31.11 # ok 10.31.21 # and yeah, does look crap with that many... 10.31.23 # JdGordon: It doesn't show all of them - see the screen dump - I have more presets after the bars stop 10.31.54 # Zagor: could you show me the relevant lines from your hook? 10.32.30 # JdGordon: Could it be added as an argument to the pb tag? I don't mind if someone wants to show them, but with lots of presets it looks a bit crap and I'd quite like to be able to turn them off :) 10.32.47 # yes 10.32.48 # the markers there look more like a design element in the "progress bar" so you can't even imagine that they have a meaning 10.37.38 Quit stripwax (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.37.50 # pixelma: do you have any lang string order breakign thingsa you want to get in, i think i'll commit the cleanup today 10.38.33 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 10.38.51 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@vpn10.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.39.22 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 10.40.30 # New commit by 03bieber (r26568): Theme Editor: Basic save-as functionality working, but only invoked when a tab is closed 10.40.40 # n1s: no, can't think of any :) 10.41.34 # ok, i'll commit it later then, if someone comes up with something they want to do it's not really a problem to break the order twice in a day 10.44.38 # pixelma: playback works fine untill it wants to change folders? 10.44.44 # bieber: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/mig/albums/rockbox/themeeditor-mac-r26567.png 10.45.15 # JdGordon: yes 10.48.51 # I am wondering, if there is somewhat like a tamagotchi-game for rockbox 10.49.10 Quit petur () 10.49.16 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.49.21 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.49.49 # no there is not 10.50.00 # you're welcome to write one :) 10.51.16 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 10.51.20 # yes, maybe i will try this ;) But I am not very fit with c/c++ cause I worked mostly with python and java to yet. Maybe I can use this to learn that :) 10.52.04 # Just C :) 10.53.47 # ok 10.53.51 # pixelma: ok, well I have a guess what it might be, but no idea why it doesnt crash swcodec... or how to fix it 10.55.42 # ok, will report it then. Maybe you could add a comment 10.55.46 # is there a tag in the wfms to indicate whether radio reception is stereo or not? 10.55.56 # yes 10.55.56 # yes 10.56.38 # I believe though that not all FMS (and especially recording) tags are mentioned on CustomWPS yet 10.56.54 # * pixelma wonders if the page should be renamed.. 10.57.10 # they should be 10.58.03 # JdGordon: I remember having to look up some of them in the source when working on the built-in FMS 10.58.33 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r26569): Improve error handling. ... 10.59.02 # maybe only recording tags though (recording time IIRC) 10.59.25 Join einhirn_ [0] (~Miranda@p54850F24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.01.05 Quit whydoubt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.02.40 # I wouldn't mind working on a cabbiev2 FMS for the clip this weekend 11.03.12 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.04.33 # bluebrother: so whats the plan for the themesite? 11.05.04 # JdGordon: maybe it's not actually a sw/hwcodec thing but CPU architecture? Works on my M5 and c200 though 11.05.38 # It's most probably hwcodec playback engine 11.05.44 # yeah 11.05.48 # I'll file for "hwcodec" though 11.06.35 # It looks like some structure member doesn't get inited properly on dirchange, so it thinks there is a cuesheet where there actually is none 11.06.38 # my guess is that the PLAYBACK_EVENT_TRACK_CHANGE event isnt being sent out correctly 11.06.56 # ...but only on dirchange, not on ordinary track change 11.07.07 # * pixelma looks around for some flyspray admin who can change the "reported version" dropdown list 11.07.32 # Iiuc the problem affected all track changes right after r21968, and r21982 fixed it for normal track changes 11.07.55 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 11.08.22 # Domonoky: ping 11.08.31 # pong 11.08.50 # seen JdGordon's question? How should we proceed with the theme site / theme versioning? 11.08.51 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 11.09.41 # * pixelma spots a Zagor ;) 11.10.22 # bluebrother: i am not sure. But i think the best way is to copy the current themesite to another place before we upgrade to the new syntacs. 11.10.43 # keeping a copy is usually a good idea :) 11.10.56 # would also make it easier to handle in rbutil (just use another URL if the version is below 3.7 or below a specific revision) 11.10.58 # however, how do we want to handle different theme syntax version? 11.11.39 # well, Rockbox Utility would need to handle both versions (old old for last release, new one for current builds) 11.12.05 # jup, just get the themes from another URL.. 11.12.20 # 3.6 added to flyspray 11.12.24 # my idea would rather be to store the compatibiliy information in the theme site database (isn't that stored there already?), then transmit a version number to the theme site when requesting the list of themes 11.12.36 # then the theme site can return different download urls. 11.12.49 # I really like that idea 11.13.57 # doesnt sound too bad, but needs much more work, and there is probably noone doing that. 11.14.18 # the question is where to get the version number for the syntax: use the svn revision? Then we should use that for releases as well, but that could cause problems because of syntax changes between release branch changes and trunk changes. 11.14.21 # the themesite would have to have different locations for old and new theme zips. 11.14.51 # the theme site could simply store the zip files as ThemeName-syntaxversion.zip :) 11.15.09 # if you change all this php code, sure... 11.15.14 # can the themesite store the branch revision and do a lookup? 11.15.34 # so rbutil would send 3.6 and the themesite would know <25000 11.15.38 # but if we want todo the syntacs change somewhere in the near future, i think the only solution is to just copy the theme site. 11.16.22 # JdGordon: it can do anything you want. but currently it doesnt know anything about revisions.. 11.16.28 # well, 3.6 matching to "less than 25000" sounds problematic to me. 11.16.35 # it just displays theme zips which pass the correct checkwps 11.16.58 # how does this "pass the correct checkwps" look like? 11.17.40 # hang on.. if the release checkwps is different to the daily checkwps then why is there a problem? either rbutil sends rxxxxx or 3.x or whatever.. 11.17.40 # rbutilqt.php does return pass_release and pass_current tags. 11.17.53 # does the db already know which was the last checkwps it passed? 11.17.59 # it just runs checkwps on all themes whitch apply (screensizes) and stores the result (true/false) 11.18.21 # it only stores the result of current checkwps and last release checkwps 11.19.25 # would storing the last pass be hard? 11.19.26 # hmm. 11.19.48 # starting from *now* though, not from the beginging 11.20.04 # does that help? IMO it would be great if it was possible to install themes for an older Rockbox installation and still getting only compatible themes 11.20.11 # that would mean bigger db changes, so not easy 11.20.50 # bluebrother: well I meant that running every theme on every old ceckwps would be painful right now 11.21.21 # JdGordon: sure, I wouldn't want to start supporting the past :) 11.21.58 # however, with a theme syntax version the database would only need to store a list of theme syntax versions (or even only the first and last version) a theme is compatible with. 11.22.26 # so that would need a field "first syntax compatible" and "last syntax compatible". 11.22.30 # and new fields to store old and new zips for a theme 11.22.34 # problem is when it comes to updates. 11.22.59 # store them as db blobs :) 11.23.08 # :-) 11.23.13 # not necessarily. The zip filename could get generated, like ThemeFileName-FirstSyntaxCompatibleNumber 11.24.06 # sure, but that are all big changes to the themesite, and i dont see someone doing the neccesary work for that. 11.24.19 # when retrieving rbutilqt.php the theme site would need to check the version number transmitted by Rockbox Utility and only return the themes that have a first syntax - last syntax range that contains that value 11.24.37 # IMO we need to do that eventually anyway :o 11.26.03 # I would acutally look into that issue (though I have no idea how much time that would need and how much time I'll have to spend), but first we need to find a way to figure how it should work :) 11.27.00 # as a first measure, rbutilqt.php could check the transmitted version number and if it notices that as release version (by whatever means) it returns different paths (to the "old" site copy) 11.27.33 # it could even use a header(Location:http://themes.rockbox.org/old/rbutilqt.php"); 11.27.56 # JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11355 11.28.31 Join lpereira [0] (~lucien@170.184.84-79.rev.gaoland.net) 11.28.32 # ok 11.30.14 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 11.30.43 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-214-233.cust.bredband2.com) 11.34.19 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 11.38.09 Join DomasoFan [0] (~Miranda@194-208-228-200.tele.net) 11.40.05 Part DomasoFan ("I'm a happy Miranda IM user! Get it here: http://miranda-im.org") 11.41.49 # is there something like a quickstart-guide, howto make plugins for rockbox? I found the helloworld.c, and this seems to explain something, about making the plugin itselfs. But how do I define, where (in which menu) the plugin appears? The hello-world-plugin doesn't seems to be used anywhere to yet 11.42.29 # Stummi: check apps/plugins/CATEGORIES 11.43.30 # and there i just have to add an row "helloworld,demos" or so? 11.43.49 # yes 11.43.51 # Stummi: yes, and add helloworld.c to SOURCES. 11.45.33 # ah, it works. Thanks 11.46.38 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f7584.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.49.06 Join DomasoFan [0] (~Miranda@194-208-228-200.tele.net) 11.49.43 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.50.38 # JdGordon: Do you have an example of a new tag? 11.50.54 # what sort of new tag? 11.51.01 # The new format 11.51.44 # if a ta had params it is now %aa(1,2,3,) instead of %aa|1|2|3| 11.51.52 # otherwise no change 11.51.54 # thanks 11.52.04 # hello everyone. when i create my bootloader and i want to create another one for a different player i issue 'make clean' to clean the source code up and after that i can't build another one. do i need always a new pull from the svn to build another bootloader or is there a command to reuse the code? 11.52.40 # no, you don't need to pull, you do need to rerun ../tools/configure though 11.52.54 # DomasoFan: you can just use a different build directory and rerun configure 11.53.25 # yes indeed, it makes a lot of sense to use different build directories for different targets 11.53.39 # AlexP: ignore that last comma though.. that was a typo 11.53.49 # will do 11.54.28 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 11.54.34 # ah ok. thanks. will try that. 11.55.34 # I really want to do the changeover tonight/tomroow so people helping test the update program/script and the patch from the ml would be very useful 11.56.31 # will do 11.57.38 # JdGordon: skinbreak.diff from 01/06? 11.57.55 # AlexP: oh, incase your are manually updating scripts, the oclour tags have been ripped of the viewport tags now 11.57.56 # yes 11.58.15 # I'll try the script first 11.58.43 # im just reviewing that diff to make sure it is still good... it still applies which is a good sign :p 11.59.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.00.02 # Where is the script btw? 12.00.49 Quit hamish_ (Quit: Leaving) 12.01.02 # utils/skinupdater 12.01.07 # ta 12.01.10 Join hamish_ [0] (~hamish@119.224.50.74) 12.01.30 # themeupdater.pl will do a whole zip, otherwsie make in there will get you the program to do a single file 12.03.18 # I *really* need to head to bed, but I need to update my skins also... 12.03.33 # what's the syntax to run the themeupdater.pl script? 12.04.25 # ...and, can it run on .zips recursively? 12.05.10 # themeupdater.pl 12.05.30 # New commit by 03torne (r26570): New USB charging system, part 1 - API rework and user-visible setting update ... 12.06.20 # wow, awesome. easier than I thought. no bork-bork for running recursively? (not a big deal) 12.07.19 # ./skinupdater will do a single file 12.07.30 # outfile can be left off to dump to stdout 12.08.06 # AlexP: seems that diff is crashing... im having a look why 12.10.19 # OK, I can hold on :) 12.12.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.13.22 Quit hamish_ (Quit: Leaving) 12.16.08 # JdGordon: Should the working dir exist? 12.16.17 # yes 12.16.26 # use /tmp/something if oyu want to be safe 12.16.36 # and you might want to double check the perl... 12.17.20 # ./updatetheme.pl CabbieBB.zip temp mkdir: cannot create directory `temp/': File exists couldnt mkdir temp/ at ./updatetheme.pl line 31. 12.17.57 # If I remove the directory it unzips the existing theme then gives: 12.18.04 # diff: temp/CSB.fms: No such file or directory mv: cannot stat `temp/CSB.fms': No such file or directory 12.18.12 # for each file (wps, sbs, fms) 12.19.51 # see if anyone there wants to debug :) I hate perl :p 12.20.44 # line 31 creates the dir, so it needs to not exist in the first place 12.20.51 # That bit is simple :) 12.22.16 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.23.38 Quit lpereira (Quit: Leaving.) 12.24.33 # I will commit the new text viewer plugin (FS#11209) from now. 12.24.43 # read_bmp_file: can't open '/.rockbox/backdrops/d', rc: -1 <-= WTF?! 12.24.55 # ucchan: woo! go for it :) 12.26.53 # Someone broke button maps for many ipod plugins :( 12.27.29 # If Left/Right/Menu/Play is used for directions, just 'Menu' for exit is a bad idea. You can never move up 12.27.47 # logical. 12.27.59 Quit DomasoFan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.28.27 # I though "menu+select" was "exit" (or supposed to be) in cases where the keymap was full for the plugins on iPods? 12.29.13 # my guess is pluginlib actions but I'm not sure if fractals used them 12.29.38 # Yes, it suppsed to be, and used to be 12.29.48 # Now it's broken 12.29.51 # if things use *just* pluginlib actions, then exit should be either menu+select or select+play 12.29.53 # :/ 12.30.10 # New commit by 03uchida (r26571): reworks text viewer plugin. (FS#11209) ... 12.30.11 # Torne; Ah yes, I knew there was another one. 12.30.23 # (select+play) 12.30.23 # meeting starts, follow online via the webcam stream 12.31.02 # feature requests... anything that is dead and no comments fro the last few years 12.32.44 # JdGordon: Could you elaborate on what you mean with the first point? 12.32.51 # problem with feature requests is that they still show up on rockbox.org/tracker 12.32.59 # scorche: pay for my ticket and ill come! 12.33.11 # you are the ex-MS person here! 12.33.33 # AlexP: well, there are so many bugs and patches which seem dead, they could either be fixed already, or rejectable or 12.34.39 # yes there is 12.34.47 # go on.. 12.34.57 # you can find all tasks last changed < date 12.35.10 # I didn't ask :) 12.35.18 # * scorche|sh sees it now 12.36.00 # all unreasonable feature requests should get closed at least. 12.36.33 # i dont think we should bother about feature requests at all, really - just worry about bugs/patches 12.36.45 # I commit the "plugin". but building error from "codec". why ? 12.37.31 # ucchan: "warning -function-section" is my own fault 12.37.57 # scorche|sh: yes, though some of those feature requests might be worthwhile thinking about it at least once 12.38.02 Join teru0 [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.38.16 # ucchan: all errors and warning only come from one build client... 12.38.41 # funman, pixelma: thanks. 12.38.52 # three cheers for knittl, who walked me through repairing the git-svn repo 12.39.08 # hip hip 12.39.23 Quit teru (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.39.36 # :) 12.39.48 # the warning can be something specific to cross compilers built from osx perhaps, now i'm looking at the error with plugin bitmaps 12.39.58 # AlexP: yes, thats why i put it on the list... lost of people means that should go quickly 12.40.14 # JdGordon: I'll get going this afternoon 12.40.50 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.42.50 # Anyone got anything to add on GSOC? 12.43.16 # * bluebrother thinks the theme editor is progressing pretty well 12.43.33 # * JdGordon seconds that 12.43.43 # and RaaA shoulld be failed! 12.44.09 # isn't that failed already ? O:-) 12.45.58 # petur: sound seems to come only from the right channel. Is that intended? 12.46.00 # most of the NoDo's are not on a list 12.46.26 # JdGordon: true, some are implicit, just make a list of the ones you know which aren't written down on the wiki 12.46.38 # JdGordon: which are that? 12.46.44 # those, even 12.47.00 # JdGordon: true, but we asked to put those there or conseider them nonexisten 12.47.04 # the ones which noone remembers untill a big argument hapens 12.47.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NoDoDiscussion 12.48.00 # bluebrother: I see it too... the encoder says so at least. My iriver shows normal signals, although it is set to record mono, but that is done on the recorded stream, not the line-out that goes to the PC 12.48.02 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C75A.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.48.40 # maybe a balance setting on the iriver but I doubt it (and can't check while recording) 12.49.35 # I'll manage to live with it :) 12.51.00 # you'll have to :P 12.55.42 # problem with hfs+ on mac could be that it would only get tested by new users because existing users already (have to) use FAT 12.55.51 # s/mac/ipods/ 12.59.39 # is there something wrong with plugins depending on /bitmaps (as opposed to /pluginbitmaps) ? 13.00.05 # as in reusing bitmaps from the main binary? 13.00.07 Quit anewuser (Quit: for SELL 2 by the price of 1 now!) 13.00.11 # alpha skipping sort of is doable with the current code if someone oculd be bohered coding it 13.00.33 # Yeah, so if someone wants to do it, great 13.00.51 # MrSomeonesTodoList :) 13.01.01 # it was only massive on hwcodec 13.01.16 # bluebrother: yeah, i noticed the rockboxlogo is duplicated (although in 2 different sizes : the pluginsbitmap is only used by logo.c and is smaller than the one for main binary) 13.01.43 # however i just thought it might be intentionally smaller than the screen so it can move 13.02.07 # speaking about ape tags: how about id3 tags attached to ogg files? 13.02.45 # what software produces these? 13.03.36 # grip did at some time in the past. 13.03.47 # (and it did that even as default!) 13.04.44 # the main problem with that files is that Rockbox simply refuses to play the file 13.04.50 # the only idea of id3 and ogg together makes me feel sick 13.05.02 # bluebrother: id3v2 then? 13.05.19 # yes 13.05.40 # I agree that id3 with ogg files is completely broken. 13.05.58 # but Rockbox could in the "help you out" argument simply skip the tags 13.06.03 # it doesn't help that many id3 taggers on Linux are buggy 13.06.06 # *the id3 tags that is 13.06.44 # it's better to play the file and not recognize the tags instead of not playing it at all (while pc applications usually do) 13.06.55 # the only Linux id3 tagger I haven't had problems with is eyeD3 (but be careful, it uses v2.4 for new tags unless you use --to-v2.3) 13.07.03 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 13.07.25 # apps/metadata/ogg.c says "rfc 13.07.56 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.08.05 # apps/metadata/ogg.c says All Ogg streams start with "OggS", perhaps we could try to synchronize if it's not found in the first bytes 13.08.58 # there would be no penalty for correct files and at least the files would decode 13.09.18 # we'd just ignore the id3v2 tag then - how does that sound bluebrother ? 13.09.46 # yes, that's what I think too. Checking the first bytes if it's an id3 header and skip it shouldn't be a problem. 13.10.17 # probably also display a splash to notice the user though I have no idea if a codec can trigger a splash 13.10.39 # don't think it's useful 13.11.00 # the splash or the skipping? 13.11.05 # splash 13.11.29 # hmm, probably. Not completely sure about that. 13.12.15 # fully customising the menu should be pretty doable.... slightly complicated but doable :) 13.12.21 # and haleluya for removing that nodo 13.12.43 # the ape nodo? 13.12.58 # no customisable menus 13.12.59 # * bluebrother spots the other change on the page 13.14.48 # AlexP: can you add "replace the dirfilter setting from the quickscreen default" to the agenda? 13.15.05 # yep 13.15.42 # bluebrother: IIUC the rationale for not supporting ape tags in mp3s is that involves more hard-disk spinning and then reduces battery life, is that right? 13.15.46 # how about discussion to remove the quickscreen completely? 13.16.10 # hotkeys proves custoimsable keys is doable and wanted 13.16.11 # funman: afaik apev2 tags are at the end of the file, but id3v2 are also 13.16.27 # funman: iirc the original point was that apev2 are non-standard for mp3 13.17.21 # bluebrother: but winamp, foober2000, major players supports. 13.17.21 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.17.22 # bluebrother: you mean id3v1? 13.17.43 # scorche|sh: ah right, mixed that up. D'oh! 13.17.49 # FULLY customisable keymaps is dead simple to do. and using a plugin to build the keymap table means almost no core changes 13.18.13 # ucchan: pc players not using standard tags doesn't make it better. 13.18.57 # JdGordon: go go go! :) 13.19.12 # what's the point of customizable keymaps? 13.19.16 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.19.35 # bluebrother: the point is, is there a point against it 13.19.37 # funman: do you have black-screened a fuze while connecting it to a PC while beeing in RB? 13.19.41 # you're usually annoyed by only one or two buttons. Like: why is the context menu invoked by long Select and not long Menu? 13.20.13 # that could be done easily.. 13.20.34 # the tables use a flow on thing, so you;d just need to remap a few combos to change that 13.20.34 # AlexP: but that might be a point for discussion too: swap long Select and long Menu on Ipods. Context Menu makes more sense on Menu, not select 13.20.52 # context menu is long select on every target 13.21.27 # Rob2223: yeah, then i had to wait 48 hours for it to discharge (or i could have opened it, cut a battery wire and soldered it back) 13.21.30 # but why not use the menu button? Especially on targets that do have a button labelled Menu? 13.22.26 # bluebrother: afaict file system use some kind of cache so depending on the typical size of id3v2 / apev2 tags it should be 'free' to look for an apev2 tag after we have looked for an id3v1 tag 13.22.38 # s/of id3v2/of id3v1/ 13.22.46 # funman: good point 13.23.03 # funman: ah thx the time i wanted to know and you know about the issue. then i just have to wait more hours. (btw. my second fuze was a 1001 which accepted RB fine). i assume when its empty i dont hear any disotion anymore when connecting the plugs. 13.23.04 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.23.15 # each file descriptor caches one sector (usually 512 bytes or more ?) 13.23.42 # Rob2223: true 13.24.20 # ok thank you for information, wont disturb here more, now. :) 13.27.02 # current sector sizes are 512/1024/2048 bytes, id3v1 tag is 128 bytes, apev2 is 64bytes + variable size tags just like vorbis) 13.28.04 # actually the footer is 32bytes and is enough to detect if there's a tag or not so I don't see why not supporting apev2 in mp3 (except for code duplication between id3.c / ape.c maybe) 13.30.14 # well, the tag handling could go into a separate file :) 13.30.40 # right so no prob then :) 13.30.56 # * funman tries to listen when apev2 is mentioned in the devcon room 13.31.02 # ok, here we go 13.31.08 # New commit by 03nls (r26572): Lang file cleanup! ... 13.31.16 # I'm wondering if there isn't already duplicated code with other codecs 13.31.45 # n1s: \o/ ...waiting for the impact though ;) 13.32.18 # was already mentioned .. :/ 13.32.36 # pixelma: i have my fingers crossed :) 13.32.42 # AlexP told it's ok to look for ape if id3 hasn't been found 13.32.55 # rasher's langtool is very useful :) 13.34.09 # only a few reds 13.34.20 # AlexP: it can be empty 13.34.25 Quit einhirn_ (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 13.34.30 # I wouldnt be against having the bottom optoin empty 13.34.54 # not volume 13.35.08 # volume will cnfuse people unless it is the top and bottom option 13.35.18 # * bluebrother remembers the time when there was no up button option 13.35.27 # JdGordon: yeah, it'd be top and bottom 13.35.37 # (I think), :) 13.36.00 # exit as an option is doable 13.36.00 # sure 13.36.04 # would solve the Filetypes issue :) 13.36.14 # not sure how you'd set it, but its doable 13.36.25 # it seems none of those reds are mine even :) 13.36.37 # JdGordon: volume would confuse? 13.36.51 # sure, if it only goes up... or down.. 13.36.54 # funman: your "christmas-jones-funman" seems to be giving weird errors and warnings? 13.37.01 # s/?// 13.37.24 # no 13.37.47 # AlexP: why doesn't the button that enters the quickscreen also exit it? (At least on Ipods -- this worked before the 4th option) 13.38.02 # n1s: yes 13.38.02 # AlexP: there is no wrap protection in the QS 13.38.03 # Don't know :) 13.38.06 # OK 13.38.20 # JdGordon: Is it addable :) 13.38.32 # well anything is, but I dont think that should be 13.38.33 # one reason why Long Menu for invoking the QS is bad IMO :) 13.38.34 # funman: Is chritmas-jones-funman cygwin ? 13.38.44 # n1s: it's a 4 cores machine so it shows issues in dependancies i think - i am looking at pluginbitmap missing dep right now 13.38.49 # ucchan: no it's Mac OSX 13.39.03 # the gcc warning I have no idea about it I will look later 13.39.07 # funman: ok 13.39.09 # looks like OS X Intel :) 13.39.23 # funman: oh. my cygwin same warning occurs. 13.39.35 # hmm, the size delta is kind of strange 13.40.47 # AlexP: one option is adding a menu under system or something for the 4 qs options so it justs hows a list of every possible option 13.40.52 # with exit in there 13.40.54 # n1s: the jump scroll settings were not made player feature only because jump scroll could be implemented for other targets too 13.41.03 # JdGordon: yes, that sounds like the best option 13.41.25 # pixelma: oh, should i change it back? 13.41.55 # * pixelma also asks amiconn (who said he wanted to implement them once) 13.41.55 Join Eismann [0] (~Gunnar@244.71.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) 13.42.06 # that is how the origional patch did it btw 13.42.11 # I think generating several files at once in a Makefile rule is a bad thing - r26349 is related to this. 13.42.55 # n1s: I'm still planning to do jumpscroll for bitmap (and bring it back for charcell - it doesn't exist atm) 13.43.15 # i'll change them back then 13.43.17 # But if I do this, I'll probably add slightly different options, and one more scroll mode 13.43.33 # So if you touch it again, imo you should throw out those strings completely 13.43.35 # gevaerts: we should allow an explicit exit option, but not quit if the setting is blank 13.43.43 # amiconn: ok 13.43.46 # JdGordon: why? 13.43.52 # I'll bring them back when coming around to doing the implementation 13.43.52 # I don't mind it, but... 13.44.08 Quit Eismann (Remote host closed the connection) 13.44.09 # n1s: some sentences vanishes. e.g., LANG_ONE_TIME is missing. 13.44.10 # i dont really have a great reason... other than accidental button pressing 13.44.37 # well, you exit the quickscreen accidentally... 13.44.54 # ucchan: ? 13.45.17 # n1s: I believe the "Gain:" string was also used on hwcodec recording targets, not sure where it came from now, the beginning of the phrase didn't show up in the diff 13.45.25 # without the : 13.45.27 # Right, pause to eat :) 13.45.34 # WEAK! 13.45.45 # We shall be back soon :) 13.46.00 # * bluebrother seconds Torne 13.46.04 # JdGordon: don't complain! You now have a break to implement all former NoDos! 13.46.11 # amiconn: the jump scroll strings are used in settings_list.c are you saying these settings do nothing? 13.46.21 # hehe YAY! 13.46.27 # diff r26571 and r26572, LANG_ONE_TIME: is lcd_charcell only ok? 13.46.32 # The setting is there, but it's doing nothing atm 13.46.42 # You could throw them out as well 13.46.50 Join ZincAlloy [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 13.47.02 # amiconn: aha 13.48.13 # ucchan: I think it's also related to those jump scroll options, so I think yes (if it is not used elsewhere) 13.48.14 # New commit by 03amiconn (r26573): Implement backlight brightness for iPod G4 greyscale and iPod Color/Photo. 13.49.20 # pixelma: the "Gain" string i changed the target for is LANG_SYSFONT_GAIN which is only used in eq_menu 13.49.40 # n1s: there are some phrases that have "deprecated" in the description where you just changed some feature 13.50.04 # LANG_SYSFONT_AGC_VOICE for example... leaving for lunch too now 13.51.29 # n1s: thanks. 13.52.06 # pixelma: LANG_SYSFONT_AGC_VOICE is gone... 13.52.38 # funman: is there a way to aviod this fuze blackscreen problem? shut RB down before connecting to PC? 13.54.19 # ucchan: if plugins/viewer.c is dead code you should delete it now 13.54.42 # New commit by 03teru (r26574): new plugin: FS#10559 - lrcplayer: a plugin to view .lrc file. 13.56.34 # JdGordon: ok. just a moment please. 13.57.06 # no rush, just there is no reason to keep dead code around 13.59.46 # New commit by 03nls (r26575): Remove the jump scroll settings since they don't do anything, drop the relevant lang ids too 13.59.47 # back on the quickscreen discussion... it is (or could be) possible to have the quick screen items as options on the QS.. (i.r the bottom one could control the left ones option)! 13.59.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.00.50 Quit teru0 (Quit: Quit) 14.02.00 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.04.42 # I gtg for a while but will check the backscroll for any comments on this lang stuff 14.08.52 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-057-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.09.13 # New commit by 03uchida (r26576): remove old text viewer plugin (viewer.rock). 14.10.00 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F50A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.16.10 Quit [CGL] (Remote host closed the connection) 14.17.39 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C75A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.19.43 # ffs...viewport colours are borken with the skin breaking patch and i have nfi why 14.21.03 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 14.23.26 # viewports support colors? is this new? 14.23.35 # yes, no 14.23.56 # ok then i have to re-read that part in the manual 14.26.43 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.31.13 # New commit by 03nls (r26577): Remove Jump scroll from the manual too 14.31.44 # AlexP: pixelma: I've updated the skinbreak patch on the ml... ideaaly as soon as we get an answer re the theme site from Domonoky/bluebrother/? it will go in 14.31.59 # *hopefully* before devcon finishes 14.34.20 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.34.32 # n1s: ah, I see it now. ViewVC just displayed it wrong 14.34.40 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 14.35.24 # Domonoky, can we give open sapi another run for its money? If your intrested? 14.35.33 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.36.54 # sure, i am just not sure if we should include the server into the binary. its pretty big. 14.37.15 # other then that, opensapi support for rbutil could be commited. 14.37.35 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 14.37.35 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 14.37.51 # maybe download the server component from the server when required? 14.39.31 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.39.56 # I like bluebrothers idea 14.40.23 # should be a lot better now I hope :D 14.40.36 # but size wise humm :() 14.41.53 # Rob2223: dunno what's wrong with fuzev2 crashing & not being able to be powered off 14.42.13 # Nearly ready to kick off again 14.42.26 # JdGordon: We are coming to your items 14.43.03 # funman: but you had that problem, too 14.43.04 # ? 14.43.12 # * Zagor just added a "revision - date - author" line to all wiki pages 14.43.41 # [meeting resumed] 14.44.04 Quit ucchan (Quit: Leaving...) 14.45.17 # Do you want me to take the christmas-jones build client down until red/yellow are fixed ? 14.45.42 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@adsl-75-45-245-88.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 14.45.42 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Changing host) 14.45.42 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 14.45.42 Quit jhMikeS (Disconnected by services) 14.46.01 # funman: are those "your fault"? 14.46.11 # no 14.46.39 # the exotic configuration of the build client just highlights new things which need investigating 14.48.22 # Domonoky, bluebrother we are looking about 800k for the download 14.48.39 # only for windows 14.49.24 # that's a bit, but if only done when using it it's ok imo. 14.49.35 # Rockbox binaries are usually bigger. 14.50.44 # notlistening: isnt it 800k for all OS with Wine ? :-) 14.51.19 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 14.51.26 # actually Domonoky you know how it works better than me I was thinking about the client 14.51.35 # your right 800k all round 14.51.42 # doesn't that require wine to be installed too? 14.51.59 # yeah horrible i know 14.52.25 # can cut it to 400/500k i think 14.52.27 # funman: if it is a configuration we support, I think it should stay 14.52.30 # bluebrother: sure, you need wine to run open-sapi on other OS, but the code already checks and informs the user. 14.52.53 # the client is Qt code, so thats builtin and isnt big. 14.53.29 # I'll need to check that later (after the talk) 14.53.41 # and if it was not so illegal to do it you can now run the server anywhere and do your TTS online 14.54.21 # as long as the client can accpet an audio data stream 14.54.36 # future developments i think 14.55.23 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fe74e.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.55.57 # Let me do some more bug hunting then i will upload a new server packaged up and give you some changes that will make it more reliable for rbutil 14.57.41 # funman, Zagor: the warnings there are also present on cygwin or cross-compiled sim builds. I believe it was already investigated but not easy to fix (except silencing) but can't remember the details. Not sure about the red though 14.58.42 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14.58.50 # the red is odd. funman, what exactly is exotic about your config? 14.59.52 # 4 3GHz cores 15.00.06 # * bluebrother would say the "it's a mac" part is :) 15.00.11 # that's not exotic, mine is similar 15.00.26 # thanks then, i have another idea (which is related to the 'mac' part) 15.00.29 # (4*3GHz cores that is) 15.00.29 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.00.30 # funman: surely a quad cpu doesn't cause "Unknown pseudo-op: .rept" 15.00.43 # Zagor: oh didn't see that one, was only looking at plugin bitmaps 15.01.22 # for this perhaps we can ask ffmpeg people, i have seen some discussion about assembler punctuated by "FUCK YOU APPLE" on their mailing list 15.01.23 # do we have other build clients running on Mac? I even failed to build the toolchain on Mac (10.6) 15.01.25 # the pluginbitmaps looks like a Makefile bug 15.01.26 Quit NRG (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.02.23 # bluebrother: I believe JdGordon once did 15.02.42 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C75A.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.04.46 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-210-255-120.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.06.43 # osx assembler doesn't support '.rept' macro used in libdemac MMX code - I'll just make the client not able to build sims 15.06.45 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.07.01 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.09.36 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.13.49 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 15.15.15 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-210-228-49.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.17.00 # bluebrother: iirc lambda has a working cross compiler.. i havnt got one going on my mac 15.17.19 # on commit templates, what about making commit messages more git friendly? 15.17.36 # current manuals don't build because latex goofs on some of the icelandic characters of the translator's name... 15.18.38 Quit linuxstb (Quit: Leaving) 15.18.38 # daily manual page lists ones for June 5th but if you actually look at a pdf it has yesterday's date 15.19.59 # bluebrother: one title line, blank line, then longer description ? 15.20.23 # funman: yes, and keeping lines below 80 characters. I've started to like that format pretty much 15.20.25 # no you shoukdt be on the rsb to invoke it 15.20.46 # no, we meant be on the committers list 15.20.52 # ok 15.21.05 # bluebrother: yes IMO loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong line commit logs are painfull to read 15.21.45 # especially if they are longer than your monitors width :) 15.22.03 # 80 char wide commt messages! 15.22.10 # or 140char max to fit in twitter! 15.22.23 # nah, that 140 characters is stupid 15.22.32 # if the commit is an FS patch, a short description should be enough I think. Commit blah blah (FS #abcd) by 15.22.46 # * bluebrother agrees 15.23.11 # * JdGordon is chekcing 15.23.11 # JdGordon: how many people voted for the RSB last time? 15.23.12 # however, having a short description (in a separate paragraph) so one doesn't need to look it up on FS is definitely useful 15.23.17 # 25 15.23.39 # That's *lots*! 15.23.57 # petur: it's not that nice if people have to look up at a different place (and there was some comment in that direction last time in iIRC) 15.24.42 # gevaerts: hardly *lots*... hardly a quorum... 15.25.05 # * amiconn (nearly) always uses single line commit msgs because he uses -m and no editor 15.25.17 # JdGordon: of developers, maybe not. Of developers who have done anything during the last three or six months though I think it is 15.25.29 # true 15.25.39 # amiconn: you can actually use linebreaks with \n 15.26.13 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 15.26.20 # funman: Iirc I tried it once, and the \n ended up as a literal instead of causing a line break 15.26.28 # * bluebrother tries to get the manuals building again 15.26.38 # petur: maybe it's also a question how descriptive the first part is - not just link flyspray and author name 15.26.42 # my biggest problem with the commit template is needing to find an old commit which used it to copy 15.27.10 # see r26558, \n doesnt work in -m 15.27.10 # bluebrother: great, thanks :) 15.28.05 # if you cant say what the commit does in one or two lines then the full message should be in the mailing list or tracker 15.28.08 # pixelma: the short desc should be able to say what it is about. You can still add more info after that. It was about making sure the first line contained 1) a short description 2) FS#, 3) actual author 15.28.17 # a template for FS commits would be ok though 15.28.28 # " FS#12387 by " 15.28.42 # yup 15.28.43 # seems fine 15.29.33 # FS# on the first line would be better for the bot 15.30.31 # FS#1234 should be easily be catchable by a regex regardless of its position in the text 15.30.42 # could CIA post more of the commit message? 15.30.55 # petur: maybe the thing that I remember and which bothered be was just a simple "Commit FS# by whomever" without context except the actual diff 15.31.03 # pixelma: fixed it (by switching the fontenc to T1), but that makes the headings font lighter :o 15.31.28 # I in fact would like CIA to post only the first line, and the commit messages having a summary in the first line :) 15.31.33 # CIA can post the full msg. It's used this way by other projects (e.g. in #quassel) 15.31.38 # pixelma: yes, I don't like that either, it should have a short description as a minimum. 15.34.37 # pixelma: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/mig/albums/rockbox/rockbox-manual-fontenc.jpg 15.35.01 # but why on earth does changing the fontenc remove the dot after the chapter number? 15.35.17 # pixelma: (right is new, left is last version from rockbox.org) 15.35.40 # hmm, I should check if that font change is related to my setup 15.36.43 # are you sure that this difference is caused by your fontenc changed (not some other difference in build environment)? I'm asking because it looks lighter generally 15.37.02 # ok, the dot is caused by my setup. The font differences are caused by the fontenc change 15.37.26 # I wouldn't mind that much either way. It's still very ovious which is headline and better than broken anytime 15.39.34 # obvious too 15.40.25 # * bluebrother compares rendering of xpdf with okular 15.40.53 # AUB? 15.40.56 # er, AOB 15.41.08 # AOB? 15.41.52 # any other business 15.43.15 # don't you want to leave something for tomorrow? ;-) 15.43.22 # AlexP: forcing posible ocntentious topics to the ml instead of irc 15.43.31 # the email i sent to -commiters 15.43.50 # can i tell an plugin to print out something to the console, if it running in the simulator? 15.44.07 # Stummi: use debugf() 15.44.20 # hmm, rendering in OS X' Preview is noticably better than in xpdf / okular :/ 15.44.32 # JdGordon: OK 15.45.19 # and zooming the view in okular makes it nicer too. Seems zooming is quite bad then. 15.45.29 # JdGordon: we discussed that briefly, and it's a good idea but nobody felt any rule or some such is needed 15.45.35 # ok 15.47.43 # pixelma: I'm going to commit that fix. If it results in serious issues with the font rendering we can look at that afterwards. 15.48.20 # bluebrother: I'll test then on the two setups I have access to from here. 15.50.50 Quit rasher (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.54.46 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 15.54.46 Quit rasher (Changing host) 15.54.46 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 15.54.53 # yeah, more ppl are needed for the tracker cleanup weeks.. not more weeks 15.55.39 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r26578): Change font encoding to T1. ... 15.56.01 # * scorche|sh wonders about http://twitter.com/pvagner/status/15431188159 15.56.29 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.56.36 # about the tweet or the project? 15.56.41 # the tweet 15.56.44 # i replies 15.56.54 # s/replies/replied 16.00.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.08.36 # bluebrother: is tex no "calculating" some characters itself? It now takes aaaaages on cygwin, I'm not even sure if it is stuck in some loop or not 16.09.41 # manual builds were ok-ish before 16.10.08 # pixelma: it creates a font cache. With the changed encoding it has to recalculates some stuff. 16.10.19 # it should be back to normal speed the next time you build. 16.10.19 # every time? 16.11.29 # or each time after a "make clean" - or is it just this one time? 16.12.02 # no, that cache is Tex-global 16.13.16 # do I have to worry about "/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /var/cache/fonts/ls-R unwritable" lines? 16.13.26 # pixelma: you should see lines in the output containing stuff like "This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.6)" 16.13.38 # if you get this it's building the font information. 16.14.13 # hmm, not sure. That sounds like it could interfere with saving cached data. 16.14.36 # ok I'll check properties 16.15.08 # the Web2C version slightly differs for me (7.5.4) 16.16.25 # I plan to make a tiny change to dbop-as3525.c, moving a delay in dbop_read_input to slightly earlier in the function 16.16.58 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C75A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.17.25 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 16.17.29 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 16.17.53 # by the way, the problem with the radio on the c200v2 seems to somehow fixed itself sometime in the past few months :) 16.18.43 # (I'll fix the wiki, I promise :) ) 16.19.19 # pixelma: the Web2C version differing is not a problem. METAFONT getting called is the important part :) 16.19.34 # meeting over it seems? 16.19.50 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 16.20.11 # bluebrother, yes 16.20.20 # we're now going to the beer shop 16.20.38 # did someone just steal 1MB from audio buffer last 5 days ? 16.23.01 # not me! 16.23.28 # JdGordon: are you sure? ;) 16.23.42 # yes :p 16.23.49 # fear me when i'll bissect which revision left the clipv1 with only -(minus)256kB audiobuffer left 16.24.29 # pixelma: can you try out the skin break patch ont he ml? it is ready to go now. 16.24.45 # Domonoky: so whats the plan for the theme site? 16.25.02 # bluebrother: ok, really didn't have the permissions to change the file and changed it now. Let's see 16.25.37 # is there a chance it gets created (or recreated) at some point in time? 16.25.59 # I think LaTeX should create it automatically. 16.26.16 # but that's LaTeX internals I'm not familiar with :) 16.26.18 # JdGordon: looks like the only fast solution is copiing it. But i dont know how todo that :-) 16.26.52 # Domonoky, JdGordon: I'll try to look into the theme site code tonight. 16.27.13 # bluebrother: last changed in March 2009 so should be safe for a while. I just wondered if there is "danger" I lose the property change again 16.27.20 # * bluebrother really wants a good solution for that issue 16.27.55 # pixelma: the worst think I could imagine is that LaTeX tries to recreate that file on each run, making it slower. 16.28.02 # looks a lot better now already 16.28.49 # bluebrother: sweet :) I'm ready to go as soon as we know whats happening there.. assuming we out right will not change the syntax without the theme site eing supported? 16.28.55 # yes, and on cygwin that is slower by a factor (didn't measure but seemed to be a lot) 16.30.01 # I have some weird property issues sometimes in this environment anyways, maybe it needs setting up again 16.30.05 # IMO it should be possible to make the manual build on Windows outside of cygwin by using MinGW + MikTeX. Haven't put any effort into looking into that though -- using Linux is simpler :) 16.30.37 # ah bugger... I just spotted a bug in the update script :/ 16.33.22 # nope :) user error... 16.36.13 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.41.55 Quit grndslm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.42.38 # New commit by 03pixelma (r26579): Enable info about the Iaudio remote keymapping in the M5 and X5 manual. Only 'actions' are included now, it still needs a check for accuracy and ... 16.52.02 # New commit by 03teru (r26580): set svn properties. 16.55.15 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 16.59.17 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) 17.00.56 # New commit by 03wincent (r26581): pdbox: Moved all global variables in pdbox.c to IRAM. 17.01.43 # Can people have a look at http://pastie.org/993041 and shout if I made a mistake? 17.02.10 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.03.29 # New commit by 03bertrik (r26582): Set svn:mime-type to application/octet-stream for all uisimulator bitmaps 17.05.28 # (those are my meeting notes) 17.06.42 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.08.33 # gevaerts: "503 Service Unavailable" 17.08.46 # ah now it works 17.09.12 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C75A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.09.24 # i think sed regular expression used to generate plugin bitmap header names causes undefined behaviour, and use GNU extensions 17.10.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11356 my first commit. I hope I did all right 17.10.18 # sounds likely, use of gnu extensions has caused trouble for exotic platforms before :) 17.10.23 Quit Tarvis (Quit: Quitting) 17.12.24 # gevaerts: "iriver bootloader: someone will get one" get one what? (i haven't followed the discussion so if this isn't intended to be public, feel free to ignore me :)) 17.13.08 # n1s: right, the agenda should probably be interleaved :) 17.13.14 # "bdm wiggler" 17.13.47 # Stummi: The controls for the simulator are supposed to be the same as the target.. 17.13.53 # Stummi: otherwise it's not a very good simulation 17.14.11 # * gevaerts looks for a volunteer to transform his notes into proper minutes that people can understand :) 17.14.14 # if this doesn't map to a particularly comfortable set of keys on your keyboard to play some game then tat's not really a problem.. 17.14.19 # it's just unfortunate :) 17.14.30 # Can you post a patch with just the increasing difficulty level in it? 17.14.36 # taht sounds like a good idea 17.14.50 # ok :) 17.15.02 # I'm quite sure I have a Wiggler like this one: http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-jtag.html 17.18.46 # New commit by 03funman (r26583): Fix plugin bitmaps dependencies generation ... 17.20.52 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 17.22.42 # Torne: I addet a new diff without the controls-part 17.22.51 # as comment 17.23.13 # did anyone bring a sansa dock to devcon? 17.24.40 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 17.27.49 # how are the entries sorted in firefly? 17.34.19 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-237-113-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.34.36 # Stummi: do you mean flyspray? 17.35.30 # if so, you click the headers to sort 17.38.44 Join phanboy4 [0] (~benji@c-174-49-112-244.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 17.39.42 # JdGordon: can you explain the last hunk of r21877 ? 17.41.06 # New commit by 03nls (r26584): FS#11354 - A few more islenska.lang fixes by Hinrik Örn SigurĂ°sson fixing a few more source and target mismatches with english.lang in the icelandic ... 17.43.10 # Zagor: erm.. yes i mean *shame* :D 17.44.24 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.44.30 # n1s: does http://pastie.org/993066 help? 17.44.32 # Stummi: i'll try your change out later, anyway 17.45.17 # ok, thanks 17.47.44 # gevaerts: yes 17.48.45 # great :) 17.51.37 # rasher: i think FS#8456 can be closed, close to 2 years since the last update and waiting more than 1 year for a status update should be enough :) 17.52.34 # * n1s stumbles over FS#9067 and wonders where midgey has gone 17.54.02 # alexp has volunteered to wade through the sea of patches and do some clean-up work 17.54.25 # We'll make sure he doesn't forget 17.54.31 # i saw that from gevaerts' notes, very nicve of him :) 17.54.34 # I've already started! 17.54.58 # will he also complete and commit the good but unfinished ones? ;) 17.55.31 # well, obviously! 17.55.50 # er, yes.... 17.57.34 # New commit by 03bertrik (r26585): Move delay a bit in dbop_read_input for ams sansa targets using the DBOP port for button readout 17.58.35 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 17.59.09 Quit storm` () 18.00.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.00.18 # right, any preferences for a name of the new arm-eabi architecture? 18.00.53 # what's wrong with "arm-eabi"? or did i misunderstand the question? 18.01.19 # no, that's one option. someone suggested maybe arm-gcc44 or something like that. 18.01.49 # New commit by 03funman (r26586): cabbiev2 128x64x1 (r)wps: ... 18.01.57 # pixelma: http://pastie.org/982548 18.02.04 # yes, inluding the major gcc version could be nice, maybe arm-eabi-gcc44? 18.02.09 # arm-eabi is fine, but I think arm-gcc44 might be better in the long ter, 18.02.13 Quit CaptainKwel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.02.33 # gevaerts: well, if it's better why not use that from the start? please elaborate. 18.02.57 # did anyone make a webcam who's-who picture yet? 18.03.30 # I'd prefer arm-gcc44 (or arm-eabi-gcc44), but I can live with arm-eabi 18.03.37 # Zagor: I need a SD card reader and i'll do it 18.03.55 # funman: great 18.04.35 # btw rockboxdev.sh actually installs compilers the wrong way. I've been meaning to fix that... 18.05.26 # I think the compiler version should be in the string 18.05.37 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.06.22 # for instance, a few weeks ago we used 4.4.3, then upgraded to 4.4.4. it would make it easier to upgrade for minor versions updates 18.06.47 # yeah it makes sense I guess 18.09.08 # so arm-eabi-gcc444 then 18.10.16 # yes, that'S nice 18.12.29 # sounds good 18.17.22 # I'll rewrite rockboxdev.sh a bit, then add arm-eabi-gcc444 to the buildmaster 18.17.41 # nice 18.18.52 # it would be awesome if some kind of advanced or custom mode could be added so you could specify versions to build interactively 18.19.08 # DevConEuro2010 updated with my notes 18.19.19 # n1s: umm, can't you already? 18.19.40 # echo "Select target arch:" 18.19.46 # selarch=`input` 18.20.30 # i mean, say tell it to build a m68k-elf gcc 4.5.0 with binutils 2.20 18.20.45 # oh. when do we want that? 18.21.03 # when experimenting with new toolchains :) 18.21.06 # heh 18.21.09 # not very often 18.21.36 # New commit by 03pixelma (r26587): Fix PLA_EXIT and PLA_CANCEL for the Iaudio M5 and X5, make them more intuitive and add the missing remote actions for it at the same time. 18.21.39 # I'll make the lines you need to modify stand out in the script :) 18.22.12 # good enough :) 18.23.42 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-210-231-166.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 18.24.45 # i let you fix the remaining yellow from christmas-jones :o) 18.24.58 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 18.26.11 # does anyone at devcon have a clip+ with radio detection problems (there was someone on the forum reporting this)? 18.26.55 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.27.29 # kugel: http://www.armadeus.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tslib 18.28.06 # kugel: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18553 18.28.16 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.29.28 # bertrik: I have a clip+ but didn't the radio yet, can try if you want 18.29.42 # *didn't try 18.33.10 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-210-236-96.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 18.37.50 # Zagor: what about it? 18.38.00 # kugel: sorry, that was meant for funman 18.40.27 # * bertrik borrowed a clip+ from pamaury and will try to fix radio on it 18.40.41 Quit guymann (Quit: brb) 18.40.46 Quit CIA-6 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.41.35 # rasher: are you planning to do anything with this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5519 18.50.30 # bertrik i know i am having radio issues 18.51.52 # bluebrother: Would you still like to do something with http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5737 ? 18.54.59 # AlexP: yes, I still want to get that functionality. 18.55.11 # OK 18.55.49 # the only thing (besides syncing) I'm not too sure about is if the file format is ok. IMO it should, as saved games are incompatible to the .ss file already. 18.57.00 # Stummi: can you please create diffs from the Rockbox checkout root, preferably using svn diff? That makes applying easier. 18.57.01 Quit joeyg (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.58.44 # ok, mom 19.01.43 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 19.02.48 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.ntl.com) 19.05.14 # bluebrother: using the trunk-dir as checkout-root? 19.05.33 # so, that the path ist app/plugins/... 19.07.55 # If Jewels is going to have progressive difficulty it may make sense to have it as a different game mode and optional if it's not such in the patch (much like the Puzzle mode) 19.08.37 # isn't libgcc always installed by the gcc build? why is it added explicitly to arm-elf-eabi? 19.11.17 # Zagor: you mean the make commands? 19.11.21 # yes 19.12.01 # Zagor: plain make doesn't work because it pulls in exception handling. the make commands for 4.4.4 is what they suggested on the gcc-help ml 19.12.13 # for bare metal 19.12.15 # bluebrother: i submittet the new patch now 19.12.28 # surely there's a configure option to disable exceptions? 19.12.32 # I'll take a look 19.12.56 # I and Unhelpful haven't found one, hence also the extended gcc patch 19.13.11 # oddness 19.13.15 # Llorean: this idea seems to be plausible.. I will do that with the next patch 19.17.26 # Zagor: there are some threads (some of them started by me) about the issues we had with compiling gcc on the gcc-help ml 19.17.53 # ok 19.19.27 Join saratoga [0] (~463f90ed@gateway/web/freenode/x-hulwmwjhfestuplq) 19.21.24 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-057-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.21.49 Join CIA-6 [0] (cia@208.69.182.149) 19.28.40 Join XPANSiVE [0] (~xpansive@216.197.169.248) 19.29.08 # New commit by 03pixelma (r26591): Add a mapping for the PLA_EXIT action for Iriver remote and provide it in the manual as well. 19.29.47 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.30.20 # How is USB coming along on the AMS Sansas? I hate having to go into the OF. 19.30.21 Quit Zagor (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.30.56 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.31.04 # it is coming fine, just not yet 19.32.26 Join Buschel [0] (~ab@p54A3A94B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.52 # Ok, I'll wait... 19.33.00 Quit XPANSiVE (Client Quit) 19.34.44 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 19.36.41 Join funman_ [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.36.50 Quit phanboy4 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.38.16 # r0b-, have you opened your clip+ already by any chance 19.40.19 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.44.37 # can someone with a CF target please check whether mpc still plays fine with http://www.pastebin.org/310326 ? 19.45.04 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.45.05 # just some beautification, but I would like to have a short test 19.47.27 Join Buschel_ [0] (~ab@p54A3A94B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.47.45 # Buschel: sure 19.48.20 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.243.107) 19.48.55 # n1s: great. it will either play fine or produce crap -- so an easy one to test :) 19.49.36 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.49.49 Nick Buschel_ is now known as Buschel (~ab@p54A3A94B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.51.08 # plays fine on h300 19.51.23 # perfect :) thanks! 19.51.36 Nick CGL is now known as [CGL]_emo_mode_O (~CGL@190.207.243.107) 19.51.47 Nick [CGL]_emo_mode_O is now known as [CGL]emo_mode_ON (~CGL@190.207.243.107) 19.52.33 # New commit by 03Buschel (r26592): Some asm code beautification in the mpc decoder. 19.55.32 Quit Buschel () 19.57.11 Nick funman_ is now known as funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.58.06 Quit wincent (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.00.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.00.21 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 20.02.06 # http://codepad.org/htTmv2ZR building the compiler fails on OS X. Do I need something special to do it? (on debian it worked out of the box) 20.04.28 # did you build with rockboxdev.sh? 20.04.33 # yes 20.06.09 # Stummi: are you on 10.6? 20.06.27 # 10.6.3 20.08.45 Join Traveler [0] (~traveler@65.29.251.49) 20.09.42 # when compiling I'm getting the error "plugin_ram is full" 20.09.54 # I've had the same problem on OS X. Haven't found any solution for it yet. 20.10.04 # if you figure it please let me know :) 20.10.21 # Traveler: more details please 20.10.21 # Traveler: what are you compiling (SVN version, patches?) and which target? 20.11.04 # ... and which os ;) 20.11.51 # I was compiling espeak (I know its unsupported) on ubuntu 10.4 for sansa c200V2 20.12.20 # Traveler: it just means the plugin is too big, so you need to increase the plugin buffer size 20.12.26 # searched online which suggested make clean, but that hasn't done anything. 20.12.58 # ok cool, is the plugin buffer in plugin.c? 20.12.59 # Traveler: the code you are compiling is simply too big to fit in the plugin area. no simple trick can fix that. 20.13.27 # ...except enlarging the plugin buffer, of course 20.13.54 # so its safe to assume the plugin buffer varies from player to player? 20.14.04 # yes 20.14.25 # it's the PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE, defined in firmware/export/config/.h 20.15.12 # sansav200v2.h in your case 20.15.15 # ok thank you 20.15.20 # sansac200v2.h even 20.16.14 Quit Traveler (Quit: Java user signed off) 20.19.12 # * bluebrother wonders what Traveler wants to do that needs that much of plugin space 20.19.40 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 20.20.42 # espeak 20.20.59 # ah. 20.21.07 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 20.21.13 # speaking of TTS, what's up with archivator? Exams? 20.21.27 # the clip plus I have right here seems to have some mystery radio chip 20.22.14 # it's responding on i2c address 0x10 (we see that address in the OF too), but the data doesn't seem to match the si4702 tuner that we know is used in other ams sansas 20.23.24 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.23.25 Join JohannesSM64 [0] (~johannes@cm-84.209.35.116.getinternet.no) 20.26.07 Nick [CGL]emo_mode_ON is now known as [CGL] (~CGL@190.207.243.107) 20.31.05 # Domonoky: is there an easy way to make a basic theme site setup (with some content of course) on my machine? That README sounds like it's quite a bit of work :o 20.35.51 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 20.45.10 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.48.09 Join guymann [0] (~charlie@69.0.44.59) 20.49.01 # christ, gcc 4.4 builds libgcc for a dozen different arms, for thumb _and_ arm mode 20.53.32 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.56.13 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@g226232181.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.01.52 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.02.14 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.06.20 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 21.14.40 Quit r0b- (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.15.00 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-218-36.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.23.53 Quit detaos_ (Remote host closed the connection) 21.24.47 Join max242 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 21.30.30 Join detaos [0] (~quassel@ip72-218-104-242.hr.hr.cox.net) 21.30.38 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC577E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.33.33 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.37.12 Join Ben__ [0] (~chatzilla@cpc1-cmbg2-0-0-cust18.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 21.38.14 Quit detaos (Remote host closed the connection) 21.38.31 Join detaos [0] (~quassel@ip72-218-104-242.hr.hr.cox.net) 21.39.48 Quit max242 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.40.23 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.40.38 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 21.44.18 # somebody here with graphic skills who could add some jewels in apps/plugins/bitmaps/jewels.*.bmp? 21.44.47 # +/native/ 21.47.16 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 21.47.54 # New commit by 03bieber (r26593): Theme Editor: Got save/save-as functionality working and added Tango icons to the toolbar 21.48.11 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 21.52.58 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 21.54.18 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.55.34 Quit liar (Quit: Verlassend) 21.58.08 Quit Ben__ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 21.58.36 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 22.00.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.02.07 # Stummi: aren't there already jewels? :o 22.02.22 # *some more jewels ;) 22.02.36 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 22.05.32 # Domonoky, right the task was updated a new upload and some better specs and code I hope 22.13.45 # * bluebrother can now measure the power consumption of USB devices 22.18.02 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 22.18.18 Join Jennifur [0] (~Jenny@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 22.21.27 Quit rhodan (Remote host closed the connection) 22.24.24 # bluebrother: i have some vmware image somewhere with the themesite.. (its a bit buggy but should work for testing) 22.24.30 # * Domonoky goes searching... 22.26.27 Join kaylinsigswort [0] (~Zigtown@CPE00259ce0fdb2-CM0014f8cc807a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.27.12 # Domonoky, I'll be around for any question on e-mail irc etc I did recode the changes that have been made to the TTS in rbutil but ended up getting into a mess with it :P 22.27.31 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.27.32 Quit kaylinsigswort (Remote host closed the connection) 22.27.43 # notlistening: i will look at it later today.. 22.28.25 Join kaylinsigswort [0] (~Zigtown@CPE00259ce0fdb2-CM0014f8cc807a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.30.05 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.30.35 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 22.32.51 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@blfd-5d822ea8.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.32.52 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 22.32.52 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 22.40.23 # can anyone suggest a good name for hotswap.c? It has nothing at all to do with hotswapping, the only function in there is card_extract_bits(), which does something for sd and mmc 22.40.30 # funman: grr, why do your compilers complain way more than anybody elses? 22.41.39 # in general, is there a good short name for "a card system of the sd and mmc family"? 22.42.23 # "sdmmc" ;-) 22.42.23 Join saratoga [0] (~9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ojrnlzrcczjjyhap) 22.43.11 # I think "sdcard" is good enough even if it covers mmc too 22.43.34 # New commit by 03torne (r26594): New USB charging system, part 2 - "Force" charging mode ... 22.43.38 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@59.151.204-77.rev.gaoland.net) 22.44.07 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@97.100.203.106) 22.45.46 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.45.46 # gevaerts: maybe sd-mmc-common.c? 22.46.14 # * gevaerts doesn't like getting three different ideas :) 22.46.29 # * bluebrother wonders if he cut the right wire 22.46.37 # keep it short and sweet 22.47.00 # MMC is a dead format anyway so it probabyl doesn't matter 22.47.18 # "visibility attribute not supported in this configuration; ignored" seems to be funman's compiler not liking the gcc attribute "hidden" 22.47.19 # Torne: does the charging rework fix the ipod 5g charging issue? 22.47.22 # Zagor: well, Bagder's proposal is one character less 22.47.27 # nano2g always shows 100mA, mini2g always 85mA, even with FSĂ#880 22.47.30 # Zagor: yellow might be from gcc configuration scripts detecting darwin (osx) as the target and not the host 22.47.37 # (just supposing) 22.48.05 # Bagder: afaict from reading shortly gcc doc 'visibility' attribute support depends of the target machine 22.48.10 # * bertrik is starting to make some sense of the mystery clip+ radio chip 22.48.22 # #elif defined(__GNUC__) && ((__GNUC__*100 + __GNUC_MINOR__) >= 302) && \ 22.48.22 # defined(__ELF__) 22.48.22 # #define LUAI_FUNC __attribute__((visibility("hidden"))) extern 22.48.47 # gevaerts: yeah but mine is sweeter B) 22.49.46 # isn't visibility about elf mostly? 22.50.11 # funman: surely if it was compiled for wrong target, a lot more things would go wrong? 22.50.17 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 22.50.31 # Zagor: I'll accept your proposal. Bagder isn't close enough to "convince" me :) 22.50.41 # * Zagor lets go of gevaerts arm 22.51.00 # saratoga: i've not added any code for any new players yet 22.51.24 # in linux, they call it mmc 22.51.25 # Zagor: hm, we already have sd.c. Won't this create confusion? 22.51.26 # saratoga: so right now only h300, nano2g and gigabeat s have usb charging configurable/supported 22.51.33 # We also have mmc.c 22.51.36 # heh 22.51.42 # well drivers/mmc/sd.c 22.51.45 # saratoga: but this is all the fundamental work i wanted to do before working on support for more players. 22.51.57 # * gevaerts goes for sdmmc 22.52.01 # saratoga: so, next on my todo list is to make charging work first on ipodvideo and then on any otehr ipods people have here at devcon 22.52.06 # gevaerts: card.c? :) 22.52.19 # saratoga: so.. maybe for some models this weekend, yes 22.52.46 # bluebrother: nano2g should have working charging 22.52.58 # bluebrother: even before my commits today. my changes today will make it slightly safer/spec-compliant 22.53.10 # bluebrother: you need to enable it, though, it defaults to off 22.53.25 # talking of which, now i've made usb charging safe (unless you set it to force) i should change the default to on 22.53.33 # well, for some value of safe 22.53.35 # safe-ish 22.53.43 # "unlikely to cause housefires" 22.57.12 # asm("HCF\n"); 23.00.21 # New commit by 03torne (r26595): New USB charging system, part 3 (end of rework) - Default to usb charging on ... 23.05.44 # there we go. 23.05.49 # now time to work out ipodvideo charging 23.06.03 # and/or drink the rest of this expensive rum 23.07.52 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.08.02 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26596): Fix EOL style 23.08.26 Quit ender` (Quit: 00 little bugs in the code, 100 bugs in the code, fix one bug, compile it again, 102 little bugs in the code, 102 little bugs in the code... (Coder's Ditty)) 23.09.04 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 23.09.13 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26597): Fix wrongly nested commenting 23.10.41 # funman, clip+ reset again and again when you have external power or usb is that a bootloader update..? 23.12.18 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r26598): remane hotswap.* to sdmmc.*. The contents have nothing at all to do with hotswapping things 23.12.58 Quit kaylinsigswort (Remote host closed the connection) 23.15.11 # * gevaerts shouldn't have made a typo in that commit message 23.15.46 Quit bertrik (Quit: back to ubuntu) 23.15.57 Quit JohannesSM64 (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 23.16.18 # right, revert it and commit it again without typo! ;-P 23.17.00 # Domonoky, cool i am here now will watch a movie, so just drop me a line 23.17.22 Quit Tarvis (Quit: Quitting) 23.18.31 # notlistening: it will work if you patch OF with next (not yet released) version of mkamsboot / rbutil 23.18.53 # notlistening: i guess the server wont like it, if i call the voice thing in paralell for open-sapi right ? 23.19.23 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.56) 23.20.43 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.24.15 # hmm, the "proper" way to install gcc is to use prefix /usr/local. this puts all the binaries in /usr/local/bin which avoids having to change your path 23.24.35 # on the other hand, that makes it a little bit more difficult to remove an installed compiler 23.27.10 # any opinions? 23.27.55 # opinions for what? 23.28.21 # default path for what compiler? 23.28.55 # rockboxdev.sh-installed ones 23.29.21 # my opinion: leave them as they are, have worked fine for ages by now 23.30.11 # * bluebrother agrees 23.30.27 # as an add-on, the binaries could get symlinks put into /usr/local/bin 23.30.41 # or would gcc choke on that? 23.30.58 # I think that works fine 23.31.59 # Zagor: isn't that the default installation directory? 23.32.16 # kugel: no, current default is /usr/local/ 23.34.19 # Zagor: ah right. /usr/local doesn't seem bad 23.34.38 # I tweaked the script a bit, cutting off ~25%. but I'll put up a patch for discussion first. 23.34.48 # most default systems these days don't have /usr/local/bin in the path 23.35.07 # ubuntu has 23.35.12 # really? 23.35.16 # Bagder: no, my point was rather not having to add a path per architecture 23.35.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11357 23.36.17 # it's not a big issue for me, both ways have their advantages 23.36.46 # not a biggie for me either 23.37.07 # notlistening: i just changed the patch for opensapi in rbutil, so it compiles again. But the following commands just timeout: getFormat, closeClient and killServer.. 23.38.00 # Bagder: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games is the default PATH on ubuntu 23.38.09 # notlistening: and when should i send the closeClient command ? shortly before the killServer command, or after every voice action ? 23.38.23 # also, all self compiled software usually installs into /usr/local on ubuntu 23.38.37 # kugel: that's autoconf's default yes 23.38.55 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.39.15 # I've still used ubuntu and debian based systems that didn't have /usr/local/bin by default 23.39.23 # not terribly important 23.40.07 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 23.40.57 # Zagor: I thought arm-eabi-gcc444 was only the string for the build clients for runclient.sh, looks a bit strange in rockboxdev.sh, but it's minor I guess 23.41.25 # kugel: yeah I figured it could be there as well, just as description. 23.41.44 # Bagder: well, I never explicitely added /usr/local/bin, and all self compiled just worked so I assume it's in the defaults 23.42.12 Join liar [0] (~liar@91-115-39-133.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 23.42.48 # kugel: but I guess the -gcc444 part is not really helpful 23.43.21 # Zagor: the version might be helpful if it's presented as a version number :) 23.48.34 # the main thing right now is actuallt the gmp and mpfr fixes in that patch. we need those to make the script work standalone for eabi builds. 23.48.51 # What's the deal with the new text viewer program? 23.48.54 # configuring gcc 3.4.6 build on osx, targetting m68k-elf: 23.48.59 # Specifically, why's it not replacing the old one's filename? 23.49.00 # configure:10478: checking linker for .hidden support 23.49.01 # configure:10534: result: no 23.49.07 # Now people will often have an out of date text viewer on their players? 23.49.42 # Domonoky, just on it can't remember off the top of my head :D 23.50.14 # someone can build m68k compiler on linux and look in /tmp/rbdev-build/build-gcc-m/gcc/config.log ? you have to remove 'cleardir' from rockboxdev.sh to not the delete the build dir when compilation is done 23.50.56 # btw, in case anyone else is running 10.04 Ubuntu, I had to upgrade libgmp and mtfr, and install texinfo in order to get gcc-eabi to build on my client 23.51.33 # we could disable building docs 23.51.39 # GodEater: yeah, by patch fixes that 23.51.44 # who actually wants to read that :// 23.51.45 Join |liar| [0] (~liar@213162066173.public.t-mobile.at) 23.51.50 # oh, not the docs though. 23.52.17 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.52.31 # Domonoky, on killServer what are you sending as the command killServer? 23.53.17 # Zagor: do you mean "my" patch ? ;) 23.53.21 Nick |liar| is now known as liar (~liar@213162066173.public.t-mobile.at) 23.53.26 # notlistening: just "killServer" and i expect a 299 as response. 23.54.01 # Domonoky, closeClient is only ever sent from the server to the client, is it then your job to ask for the next bit of work, I applogise foe the bad naming 23.54.15 # killServer is working my end with that reponse 23.56.46 Quit liar (Quit: Verlassend) 23.57.33 Join liar [0] (~liar@91-115-39-133.adsl.highway.telekom.at)