--- Log for 02.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 19 hours ago 00.01.26 # faad is faster with -O2 on PP5022 (31.6 MHz vs. 32.4 MHz). Is this also valid for other CPUs? 00.04.23 # pixelma: sorry, got disconnected locally in between. My guess would be that the latter if possible at all would be anything than trivial, i.e. need someone with good LaTeX knowledge. 00.04.54 # but that's way beyond my knowledge, so I guess the only way would be to prepare things beforehand. 00.06.14 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.06.54 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 00.18.06 # Buschel: is your change in libfaad/bits.h/get dword alignment safe? (the comment seems to suggest it is not) 00.18.30 # s_/get dword_:get_dward_ 00.18.38 # dword* 00.21.32 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.23.19 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.24.25 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f7882.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.26.40 Quit Dhraakellian (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.27.03 # n1s: I should have removed the comment. The "#ifdef ARM" path was not used as ARM was not defined. So, the special handling for ARM was not active -- there was and is only the difference between big and little endian. 00.28.00 # aha 00.28.23 Join Dhraakellian [0] (~ntryon@cpe-67-240-248-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 00.28.52 # btw, in the faad decoder there is some strange code and #ifdef'ing 00.29.15 # yes 00.29.23 # it's pretty messy 00.29.56 # pretty nice speedup you got out of it though 00.30.16 # yep :) 00.32.49 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27228): Remove false comment. 00.33.51 # Buschel: i can test amsv2 if you want 00.34.23 # r27228 build result: All green 00.34.41 # funman: yes, would be fine. I will add a FS-entry to collect the results 00.39.40 # funman: FS#11450 00.40.29 # Buschel: i can try on h300 tomorrow 00.40.54 Part AzureWurk 00.41.27 # i have been thinking about making a larger scale compiler switch tuning, where all codecs are built with O[123] and tested in one go for my targets but haven't gotten around to it yet 00.42.07 # funman/n1s: as I am on a 4-day trip until Monday evening, you will have plenty of time for testing ;) 00.42.38 # ok, i'll try to remember to do it tomorrow then :) 00.44.00 # have a good night, I need to have some sleep now (hope to fall to sleep at all -- it is pretty warm here even at night...) 00.44.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.45.19 Quit Buschel () 00.46.03 # hm one of the test_file got fucked up on clip+ : 0.04s to decode 00.47.23 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.47.37 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 00.48.06 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.49.19 # funman: from just switching compiler options? 00.49.30 # nope with svn 00.49.53 # I'm pretty sure the iram is large enough on AMS but i must test the codec speed 00.51.17 # yes, the faad decoder can require a lot of memory, is the clip+ using the iram as codec buffer like the clip? 00.51.51 # hm right :) 00.52.11 # so it uses it already 00.52.21 # i must check on fuzev1 then 00.53.23 # the failing file is the he-aac one 00.58.04 # that probably isn't a very good testcase as it uses a lot of other features of the codec than regular aac AFAIU 00.58.16 # also he-aac is dead slow currently 01.00.33 # i'm pretty sure it used to decode correctly 01.00.51 # -O2 gives ~ 5% speedup 01.01.34 # maybe buschel's batch broke something in he decoding then 01.01.40 # AAC-HE worked on the clipv2 when i tried a while ago 01.01.58 # 'night 01.02.00 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 01.02.38 Quit ender` (Quit: I think I remember an episode of MacGyver where he overthrew a violent dictator with a rubber band, 2 bottle caps, and some navel lint.) 01.06.24 # someone should update CodecPerformanceComparison now that AAC, MP3 have been improved 01.06.55 # * n1s points out that vorbis has gotten some small speeups too :) 01.08.05 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.10.17 # * n1s would also like to get his memory juggling patch fro tremor in but it still has a bug somewhere 01.14.37 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@pool-173-65-132-55.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 01.15.14 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 01.15.36 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 01.15.42 # JdGordon: The new newline handling is causing a problem: now anything that has Vf/Vb tags on the same line as a viewport declaration is inserting a blank line at the beginning of the viewport 01.30.08 Join evilnick_BS [0] (620ec24b@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 01.30.24 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.37.03 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 01.40.38 Quit Ingrid_en_Henk (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.41.38 Quit z35 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.45.08 Quit Tarvis (Quit: /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit) 01.48.23 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 01.57.07 Quit binaryhermit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.57.22 Quit z35 (Quit: Leaving) 01.57.25 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 02.00.08 Quit bieber_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.00.20 Quit kachna (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.00.30 Quit Topy (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit Strife89 (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit delt (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit aevin (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit JdGordon (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit leavittx (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit Bowbles (*.net *.split) 02.00.31 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 02.00.32 Quit nk_ (*.net *.split) 02.00.32 Quit Hadaka (*.net *.split) 02.01.55 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-67-57-51.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.02.07 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.154) 02.02.26 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 02.03.54 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@2a01:608:ffff:2619:2e0:4dff:fe83:a45e) 02.09.17 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@pool-173-65-132-55.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 02.09.37 Quit evilnick_BS (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.10.55 Join delt [0] (1000@mail.deimos.ca) 02.11.31 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 02.11.57 Join 13WAA3UUX [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 02.11.57 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@2002:1876:a27b:0:227:13ff:fe65:1262) 02.11.57 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.11.57 Join Bowbles [0] (~JohnDoe@pizdoon.com) 02.11.57 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 02.11.57 Join nk_ [0] (nk@xob.kapsi.fi) 02.11.57 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 02.12.01 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.13.46 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@106.203.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) 02.15.10 # S_a_i_n_t: have you seen any "stkov nand" panics with recent nano2g builds? 02.15.48 # recent = since about a week 02.16.10 # I haven't seen any stkov panics in the last two months or so, possibly longer. 02.16.29 # even with such recent versions? that's fine then 02.16.34 # I have however been getting random data aborts that seem to relate to skipping tracks too quickly. 02.16.40 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.16.47 # hmm that's a different issue 02.17.12 # * TheSeven was suspecting his storage idle callback commit to cause stkovs because someone reported one in the nand thread 02.17.47 # But, no, I update my builds almost daily and I have not seen a stkov panic on the Nano2G for quite literally months. 02.17.52 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.19.29 # and you aren't using my sector cache patch either, are you? (it might be hiding the stkov) 02.20.38 # New commit by 03bieber (r27229): Theme Editor: Altered tag table entry for %pb to make image optional, implemented progress bar rendering in theme editor 02.20.46 # On one of my Nano2Gs I am using that patch. 02.20.53 # On the others, I'm not. 02.22.21 # r27229 build result: All green 02.27.49 # New commit by 03bieber (r27230): Theme Editor: Renderer will not insert a newline at the end of a line if it's the same line in the wps file as the viewport declaration, to avoid ... 02.29.36 # r27230 build result: All green 02.30.43 # JdGordon: I've modified my renderer not to insert newlines when you have a %V(...)%Vf(...)%Vb(...) line, but we should fix the parser so it doesn't count the Vf and Vb as a separate line. My suggestion is to change the behavior of the \n flag in the parser so that it just eats a newline if one happens to occur immediately after the tag (or at least after some whitespace) and then put the \n flag on the end of both Vf and Vb's 02.30.43 # argument lists in the tag table 02.32.43 Quit bieber_ (Remote host closed the connection) 02.32.53 Quit 13WAA3UUX (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.42.16 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.42.32 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 02.44.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.44.41 Join leavittx_ [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 02.58.45 # bieber: Vf, Vb should only not make a new line if it is attached to V() otherwise it should 03.11.10 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (*.net *.split) 03.11.10 Quit JdGordon (*.net *.split) 03.11.10 Quit Bowbles (*.net *.split) 03.11.10 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 03.11.10 Quit nk_ (*.net *.split) 03.11.10 Quit Hadaka (*.net *.split) 03.15.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.17.49 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.18.02 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 03.20.36 Join rvvs89 [0] (ivo@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 03.22.54 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@2002:1876:a27b:0:227:13ff:fe65:1262) 03.22.54 Join Bowbles [0] (~JohnDoe@pizdoon.com) 03.22.54 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 03.22.54 Join nk_ [0] (nk@xob.kapsi.fi) 03.22.54 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 03.26.17 Join ruckus [0] (~Earworm@owen-203-223.labs.emich.edu) 03.26.38 # hey people 03.27.07 # i reported the bug about the backlight with the metronome earlier today, and I see the change in the subversion 03.27.39 # if i donwnload the most current build, i shouldn't experience the bug anymore, right? 03.27.46 # yeah sorry about that.. we usually dont fix bugs 03.27.55 # ;) 03.28.30 # tsk tsk, funny people 03.29.29 # seriously though, i downloaded the most current build about an hour ago, and it had the same problem 03.31.49 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.34.49 # Which specific commit are you talking about? 03.35.02 # ruckus: ^ 03.35.31 # I don't personally remember seeing a commit specific to the text-viewer backlight myself 03.35.49 # S_a_i_n_t: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=27218\ 03.38.12 # ok, so comment in the bug pae that it isnt fixed 03.39.02 Quit Bowbles (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.39.53 Join Bowbles [0] (~JohnDoe@pizdoon.com) 03.41.05 # Yes, you're quite correct. It is still occuring, however bugs will spring up from time to time, it's simply impossible to excpect everything to work as expected 100% of the time. 03.41.33 # ruckus: Have you actually lodged a bug report of Flyspray, or simply commented about it here on IRC? 03.42.11 # i commented here 03.42.38 # and people who seemed like devs started talking about 03.43.28 # How do you determine "people who seem like devs"? 03.43.29 # (teru and pixelma) 03.43.40 # they started talking about the code itself 03.43.47 # Make a bug report on the bug tracker please, its easier for everyone. 03.44.22 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?show_task= 03.48.22 # ah crap. i am just about to leave work. :( 03.49.42 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.50.15 Quit Tarvis (Read error: No route to host) 03.54.08 Quit ruckus (Quit: Leaving.) 04.08.50 # ok, thanks for the help everyone! 04.08.51 Part delt 04.12.57 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@2002:1876:a27b:0:227:13ff:fe65:1262) 04.16.44 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.19.18 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 04.23.25 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.23.27 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.23.45 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.23.47 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.23.47 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.24.02 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.28.00 # bieber: quick request of the %Vp tag... can you make it so the 2nd half use the "info not found" code instead of the "found" code (i.e param 3 instead of 2? 04.31.43 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.32.53 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f4667.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.36.51 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.37.09 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 04.43.14 Quit rado1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.44.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.36 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.48.17 Join rado1 [0] (~jon@66-214-153-109.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) 04.49.01 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.53.37 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.08.34 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.08.49 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 05.16.27 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.24.20 Join ThalionX [0] (~Anon167@ool-44c16678.dyn.optonline.net) 05.25.18 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.30.55 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 05.34.32 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.37.24 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-67-57-51.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.34.26 # JdGordon: Sure thing 06.34.59 # ta 06.35.39 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27231): r27225 broke AAC HE profile decoding due to missing check for buffersize. Introduce a check of needed buffersize and decide whether to use a static ... 06.37.28 # r27231 build result: 18 errors, 0 warnings (Buschel committed) 06.40.26 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27232): Fix red. 06.41.20 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/detroitVI Sixth edition of 25 samples + 48 hours + detroit party (july 31) (maybe streamed online!)) 06.42.02 # r27232 build result: All green 06.44.08 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.154.92) 06.44.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.47.33 # New commit by 03bieber (r27233): Theme Editor: Switched the order of the last two arguments to %Vp in rendering 06.49.07 # r27233 build result: All green 06.49.16 Quit CGL (Remote host closed the connection) 06.50.27 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.50.30 Join wombat23 [0] (~beuteltie@adsl-99-39-2-249.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 06.52.37 Quit wombat23 (Remote host closed the connection) 06.59.34 # bieber: that last commit? I meant if the list is going to show 6 items, then the first 3 should show the firt code param and the second 3 should show the 2nd code param 07.00.12 # its always using the 2nd code param now? 07.00.19 # Ohh, you mean to make it look like the list is midway through loading? 07.01.24 # I thought you just meant to flip the order of the parameters 07.02.21 # yeah 07.03.02 # Good idea :) 07.04.35 # hmm, looks like you support fewer tags in the viewer than svn? 07.05.28 # maybe only 5 or 6 missing 07.05.48 # *eventually* I want to make that support all tags 07.05.51 # I haven't done any of the RTL-related tags yet 07.06.17 # And I still need to handle all the special cases for the various conditional tags 07.07.28 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.07.30 # I _should_ have everything supported within the first couple days of next week 07.07.40 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.12.14 Join wombat23 [0] (~beuteltie@adsl-99-39-2-249.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 07.12.32 Quit binaryhermit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.16.28 Quit wombat23 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.18.00 # New commit by 03bieber (r27234): Theme Editor: Switched the last two parameters of the Vp tag back to their original orientation, made the playlist display the first half with ID3 ... 07.19.29 # r27234 build result: All green 07.20.50 # Aw shucks, you can't ammend a commit message, can you? 07.21.25 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 07.24.03 # nope 07.24.12 # this aint git! 07.24.58 Quit ThalionX (Quit: WrongPlanet forever!) 07.25.28 # bieber: much better :) I see you havnt got it doing a full update after the reparse yet? 07.25.52 Join LinusN [0] (linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.26.02 # By all means, it should be. The image is being cleared and rerendered every time it gets reparsed, but for some reason the viewer isn't showing it 07.26.33 # I think the QGraphicsScene just isn't sending its sceneChanged signal every time it gets cleared, for some reason 07.27.06 # ah 07.28.42 # Oh wait, found it 07.29.06 # Apparently by default the viewer only changes its view if a certain amount of the scene changes 07.34.00 # Aanddd, it turns out that's not the real problem :/ 07.34.00 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 07.39.07 # aaaww 07.39.21 Quit rvvs89 (Changing host) 07.39.21 Join rvvs89 [0] (ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 07.49.52 Join kachna [0] (~kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 07.58.08 # New commit by 03bieber (r27235): Theme Editor: Fixed random outlining in default viewport, working on getting the viewer to refresh on re-render 07.59.49 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 07.59.50 # r27235 build result: All green 08.00.02 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r27236): AMS SoC's: Some register bit changes need interrupt protection: timer API and CGU_PERI. 08.01.42 # r27236 build result: 0 errors, 32 warnings (jethead71 committed) 08.07.43 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r27237): pl081: Fix r27236 warnings. Need system.h. 08.08.03 # Does rockbox understand id3v2 replaygain tags as written by the mp3gain utility? 08.08.43 # in other words, should I tell mp3gain to write id3v2 tags, or should I tell it to write APEv2 and run the files through rgfix.py? 08.09.00 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Bed.) 08.09.13 # r27237 build result: All green 08.10.03 # * Dhraakellian does both 08.11.05 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 08.15.34 # rockbox doesnt read ape tags in mp3 files 08.15.44 # ... 08.15.46 # I know this 08.15.55 # thus the comment about running it through rgfix.py 08.16.23 # hmm 08.16.43 # * Dhraakellian ponders whether that's a well enough known thing for him to actually get snippy 08.17.09 # it converts the APEv2 RG tags to more common id3v2 ones 08.18.01 # * Dhraakellian shrugs, as it's past his bedtime 08.27.26 # * JdGordon thinks it is never good to get snippy if you are asking questions 08.41.42 # Apparently the scene occasionally renders the last parse tree instead of the latest one, for no discernable reason :/ 08.42.01 # After I spend forever trying to figure out why the viewer isn't refreshing, it turns out that it is 08.44.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.47.45 # messing up pointers somehow? 08.48.31 # I have no idea, I'm trying to track it down 08.48.51 # I have figured out that it's not random, which at least means it shouldn't be an uninitialized variable or anything like that 08.49.17 # If you open a new document, hit enter followed by "abcd", it fails to render the 'd' every time 08.49.42 # that is messed up :) 08.50.24 # something seems to be eating the d 08.50.35 # But then if you continue with more stuff, the d shows up 08.50.51 # not if you keep hittting d 08.51.19 # d at the end of the line is killing it 08.51.41 # i also 08.51.44 # and I bet f 08.51.54 # not f 08.51.55 # n 08.52.12 # s 08.52.12 # Really 08.52.27 # x 08.52.35 # Holy crap 08.52.41 # This is just bizarre 08.53.13 # your toString() must be eating it... those are the letters which do it 08.53.47 # Ohhh, it's not showing up in the parse tree either 08.53.55 # How did I not check that to begin with :/ 08.54.21 # I wonder if the problem could be in the parser 08.54.48 # probably 08.54.57 # good luck finding it :) I'm off 08.57.37 Quit bieber_ (Remote host closed the connection) 09.00.14 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.03.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.06.45 # jhMikeS, regarding r27236, wouldn't it have been easier to just move the CGU_PERI manipulation out of interrupt context? 09.07.21 # It seems that ascodec-as3525 does the in-interrupt CGU_PERI manipulation (I think this file is way too complicated anyway, and it never really got clear to me why it had to be made so complicated) 09.12.13 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host129-160-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.17.21 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@238.250.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) 09.17.44 Quit antil33t (Client Quit) 09.19.37 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 09.20.19 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.21.49 # bertrik: perhaps, but then again, wouldn't it get left on if the transfer is completely async? 09.26.17 Join pondlife [0] (~Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 09.28.18 # Slightly OT question - is there any way I can change my e-mail address for the mailing lists without unsubscribing and resubscribing? 09.29.39 # nm, sussed it 09.30.15 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.30.39 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.36.44 Part LinusN 09.36.47 Join LinusN [0] (linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.38.37 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 09.43.19 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9958.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.44.41 Part pondlife 09.46.26 Part Zagor 09.46.28 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.46.33 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.02.38 Join lmjubuntu [0] (~lmjubuntu@58.195.42.183) 10.04.00 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.205.236) 10.04.02 Quit kugel (Changing host) 10.04.02 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.05.05 # New commit by 03bieber (r27238): Theme Editor: Removed some old hash code that caused viewer not to update due to hash collisions. 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I'm using 'qmake-qt4' without errors, but with 'make' I get errors: http://pastebin.org/373939 10.19.49 # What is going wrong there? 10.24.41 Join Luca_S [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 10.26.30 # bieber: seen the warnings after your commit? 10.29.21 Join pondlife [0] (~Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 10.33.48 # pixelma: Those pop up from time to time, it shouldn't have anything to do with my commit, since none of the stuff I'm editing gets compiled by the build server (I freaked out a little last time it happened, but I've been told it's unrelated) 10.34.10 # lasser: Compiling the theme editor shouldn't have anything to do with rockboxdev.sh 10.34.59 # What version of Qt are you using? 10.35.11 # bieber: ok, it was only a possibility for me. 10.35.52 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@178.4.23.205) 10.36.24 # f$raven: qmake-qt4 --version 10.36.26 # QMake version 2.01a 10.36.27 # Using Qt version 4.4.3 in /usr/lib 10.36.56 # bieber: they don't *look* like a build system quirk 10.37.40 # lasser: That's your problem. I believe some of the features I'm using came in as recently as Qt 4.5, maybe even 4.6, so you'll want to upgrade to the newest version 10.37.50 # pixelma: Is there somewhere I can view the actual warnings in question? 10.38.34 Join Topy [0] (~topy@my.fastsh.it) 10.38.35 # if you click on a yellow cell in the build table, you get the log 10.38.47 # lasser: check backports (backports.org) 10.40.03 # Oh, the build server is building my parser 10.40.04 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.41.50 # pixelma: The build table is showing one warning for a bunch of different builds, but the notification just said there were 75? How does that happen? 10.43.03 # New commit by 03bieber (r27239): Theme Editor: Fixed a warning in the parser due to a stray asterisk 10.43.11 # bieber: So I have to wait for squeeze for compiling. Are there compiled bins for download anywhere? 10.43.13 # simonrvn: nothing in bpo, squeeze has 4.6 10.43.34 # bieber: all warnings & errors are simply added 10.43.45 # Ah, okay 10.44.00 # lasser: 32 bit or 64 bit? 10.44.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.33 # r27239 build result: All green 10.46.29 # bieber: looks like one warning on 75 "targets" (devices and sims) 10.47.08 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 10.47.43 # bieber: 32 bit 10.47.45 # Is there a way to get GCC to ignore unused parameter warnings, by the way? The build server doesn't build it, but my theme editor has a lot of those that I can't get rid of, because the arguments are required for interfaces 10.48.31 # lasser: I'll build it for you, just lemme fire up the VM 10.49.34 # bieber: (void)param in the function or #__attribute__((unused)) int param' in the function declaration 10.49.47 # bieber: it's kind of ugly but you can use some attribute to do that, or just the old (void)foo; trick 10.50.12 # Is it generally considered good practice to suppress warnings like that, or just leave them there? 10.50.18 # * kugel disagrees that the attribute is ugly 10.50.45 # bieber: we generally want 0 warnings, as they might hide new warnings that pop up 10.52.11 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.52.46 # bieber: perhaps you can put the attribute once in the interface declaration and all implementations will not show the warning anymore (I don't know c++/interfaces enough to be sure though) 10.53.08 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 10.53.25 # It might work in my own interfaces, but most of the abstract classes I'm implementing come from Qt, I'm afraid 10.55.35 # bieber: woah, thank you! 10.55.47 # lasser: Did you get it compiled? 10.56.00 # void foo(__attribute__((unused)) int bar) {} or void foo(int bar) { (void)bar; } then. of course you can put the __attribute__ thing into a better looking #define 10.56.30 # bieber: no. I mean thanks for building it! 10.56.41 # the compiler removes the (void)bar step when -O is given, so both are basically equivalent. in rockbox we generally use (void)bar 10.58.22 # lasser: http://filehost.bieberphoto.com/themeeditor/bin/themeeditor27239-linux-i686.tar.gz 10.58.37 # I don't know if it will run with the older version of Qt installed on your machine, but you can try it 11.02.42 # Oh wait, I uploaded the source package 11.03.29 # bieber: yes, I just saw that, too. 11.04.57 # lasser: Download the same link now, I replaced it with the right file 11.06.54 # lasser: :/ 11.08.11 # bieber: f@raven:~$ ./themeeditor 11.08.12 # ./themeeditor: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by ./themeeditor) 11.08.14 # Seems I have to install squeeze in VirtualBox ;-) Thanks for your help! 11.08.37 # Good luck 11.09.19 # Let me know what you think of it when you get it running. Just ping me and I'll find your messages whenever I get back to my computer if I'm not around 11.10.13 # ok! 11.12.05 Part pondlife 11.23.45 Quit Slasheri (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.28.59 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@xen.ihme.org) 11.29.01 Quit Slasheri (Changing host) 11.29.01 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 11.31.11 Quit kugel (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.34.10 Quit Rob2223 (Quit: Rob2223) 11.41.03 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9958.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.43.21 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.45.01 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 11.55.50 # bieber: Do you remember the tag for "LANG == "? 11.56.02 # * S_a_i_n_t can't seem to find it... 11.56.17 # (I'm pretty sure one esists) 11.56.24 # *exists even 11.56.48 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9958.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.01.24 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 12.03.24 # Does *anyone* remember what this tag is (%?'sometag')? I'm damn sure such a tag exists, but it's not in the manual, or the customWPS wiki page... 12.03.46 # %Sr seems to sound familiar, but I'm not entirely sure about this. 12.05.37 Quit lmjubuntu (Read error: Operation timed out) 12.06.43 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 12.07.43 # * S_a_i_n_t gets annoyed by missing WPS tags in the manual... 12.08.46 # "%ax : The next tag should follow the language direction (what that means is deifned by the individual tag)." Is missing from the manual 12.12.58 # The above tag/description is taken from the customWPS page (the description sucks btw), it really should say something along the lines of "%ax :This tag will mirror a viewport according to language direction" (or something to that effect). 12.13.44 # AFAIK it is only support by %V, %Vl and %Cl 12.29.07 # S_a_i_n_t: y'know, patches are welcome ;) 12.30.39 # I'm not really so great with TeTex myself...I could put something up on flyspray with a more accurate description, but it'd most likely be plain text as opposed to an actual diff for the manual... 12.30.45 # Would that be acceptable? 12.35.13 # yes, content is the hard part, tex is the easy part (usually, at least with simple additions like this) 12.36.42 # Sweet, well I'm whipping a theme into shape presently, but I shall put up a flyspray task regarding this particular tag in the very near future. 12.37.03 # One question though, what do I class it as? Is a missing tag in the manual a "bug"? 12.38.30 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-053-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.39.32 # S_a_i_n_t: yeah, bug is fine 12.40.15 # Sweet, thanks. I'll put it up soon(-ish) 12.41.30 Quit rvvs89 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.44.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.55.09 Quit lasser (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Iceweasel 3.0.6/2010062510]) 12.56.46 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.04.37 # Hmmm...seems I need to add *two* tags to the manual, turns out I was right about the %? language tag. It is indeed "%Sr" I had to find it by grepping the IRC logs lol ;) 13.04.56 # * S_a_i_n_t wonders how many other tags exist that are completely unknown... 13.13.40 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.17.38 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 13.18.58 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.20.14 Join ucchan [0] (~ucchan@softbank126102048041.bbtec.net) 13.26.09 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 13.35.30 # New commit by 03uchida (r27240): text viewer: fixed garbage data are not stored in the setting file. 13.37.06 # r27240 build result: All green 13.39.14 # S_a_i_n_t: ask JdGordon when he's around next time... ;) 13.49.58 # New commit by 03wodz (r27241): HD200 - rework keymap 13.50.06 # New commit by 03wodz (r27242): HD200 - improve keymap in simulator 13.50.58 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@inet20909nc-3s.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl) 13.51.34 # r27241 build result: All green 13.53.19 # r27242 build result: All green 13.55.42 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 13.56.10 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.56.46 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.57.53 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@61.250.113.98) 13.58.19 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D745.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.02.41 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.03.09 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@61.250.113.98) 14.07.49 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 14.13.44 Quit maraz (Quit: Reconnecting) 14.13.46 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 14.16.49 # New commit by 03uchida (r27243): text viewer: for tv_action and tv_bookmark, the prototype of the initializer is the same arguments as other modules. 14.17.20 # pixelma: Well, I've definitely found one tag I know of that isn't in the Manual's tag list or listed on the CustomWPS page on the wiki. The problem is, how do you know something is missing when you don't know if it exists or not? ;) 14.17.27 Part LinusN 14.18.12 # The only reason I knew of %Sr is that I was 99% confident I had used it before, and went looking for it in the Manual to make sure I was getting the syntax right. 14.18.21 # yuppie, I managed to enable recording on MPIO :-) 14.18.25 # r27243 build result: All green 14.18.42 # wodz: Awesome, congratulations \o/ 14.19.43 # S_a_i_n_t: that's why it would be nice if JdGordon would at least file a bug report (or a patch with a description at least as pure text) if he implement new tags 14.20.13 # wodz: congrats! :) 14.21.07 # pixelma: I'm going to add a "bug report" for a propper description for %ax when I get the time later tonight, and also add %Sr now I found out that this is missing. 14.21.40 # It will just be plain text though, as I'm not great with TeTex, but...at least it's something. 14.22.22 # to be fair, those were implemented by tomers 14.23.00 # I'm trying to think of how to describe %ax without writing a novel...the description in the manual for it is *awfull* 14.23.22 # I'll think of something when the time comes no doubt. 14.26.02 Part Zagor 14.26.41 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.31.24 Quit flydutch (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.32.41 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.36.00 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-182-128-105.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 14.36.07 Quit literal (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.39.22 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 14.39.34 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.39.59 Quit ucchan (Quit: Leaving...) 14.40.19 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.43.11 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.44.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.44.29 Join thisisatest [0] (~lolwut@d58-110-164-3.riv15.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 14.45.38 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-142-67-11.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 14.46.30 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.48.06 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 14.48.07 Quit thisisatest (Client Quit) 14.48.14 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@61.250.113.98) 15.07.38 # * S_a_i_n_t is quite surprised that "Mute" and "Line Level" are not in engligh.lang. 15.08.02 # Well, surprised and annoyed... :-/ 15.08.02 # * Torne was more surprised that "OK" and "Cancel" weren't 15.08.06 # (until recently) 15.09.57 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 15.10.09 Quit kachna (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.10.12 # "Disc" is another one I'm surprised doesn't grace the lang files. 15.18.34 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.18.39 # there's HD/microSD/MMC 15.20.35 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.21.54 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 15.23.02 # S_a_i_n_t: perhaps because we call it "disk" :) 15.23.43 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 15.24.25 # Ok, well ""Disk" is another one I'm surprised doesn't grace the lang files." then ;) 15.25.42 # but it does 15.25.53 # id: LANG_DISK_MENU 15.27.01 # Hmmmm...odd. I just see that now, I guess I kept missing it because I was grepping for "Disc" 15.27.09 # but lang entries are full used phrases, not various useful words. so a lot of entries are not found. "song" for instance. 15.27.42 # or "track", which is the word used 15.28.05 # There's a patch on flyspray to add 'Disc" to the engligh lang file, I wonder if that guy didn't know that "Disk" was there also... 15.28.23 # bah! "english" 15.28.34 # can you find the patch? 15.28.57 # I can indeed...one sec. 15.29.24 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 15.31.30 # Zagor: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11361?project=1&string=Disc&search_in_comments=1&search_in_details=1&search_for_all=1&type%5B0%5D=&sev%5B0%5D=&pri%5B0%5D=&due%5B0%5D=&reported%5B0%5D=&cat%5B0%5D=&status%5B0%5D=open&percent%5B0%5D=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto=&order=dateopened&sort=desc 15.31.37 # ETOOLONGURL!!! 15.31.42 # ...err, sorry. 15.32.04 # Zagor: I believe "Title" is there or something like that, for the "Track info" viewer 15.32.48 # ow, "this might be useful to someone". that is a terrible precedence. 15.33.05 # there is no end to words that can be added with that reason 15.34.26 # but we have a handful already 15.34.35 # I'd personally like to have "Disc" in the lang files, but I understand that it shouldn;t be filled up with singular words that may, possibly* be used at some point etc. etc. I'd just like it for the exact reason that the poster of the task added it for, to me Dick == "Hard Disk", "Floppy Disk" etc. and Disc == "Compact Disc", Digital Video Disc" etc. 15.35.10 # oh, shit...BAD typo lol 15.35.16 # "DisK" 15.35.22 # yes, I believe that is the generally accepted disc/disk meaning 15.36.25 # It's a pity none of the "CabbieV2" theme's use the word "Disc", then it would make sense to add it and then I could use it in my themes as well. 15.36.58 # well. it is useful. it doesn't add bloat or problems. it doesn't introduce a problem that we don't already have. I say commit. 15.37.04 # I'm not a fan of adding words to my themes that can't be translated (assuming the other langs have a translation for the string used also) 15.37.18 # AWESOME! 15.37.26 # (re: Commit) 15.38.11 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.38.13 # well, any new string does add some RAM use 15.38.37 # yes, but the small amount does not meet my definition of "bloat" 15.38.49 # Not that I want to push my luck or anything...but as I said earlier I'm kinda surprised that "Mute" and "Line Level" aren;t in the lang file either. 15.39.09 # "line level"? when is that ever used? 15.39.42 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 15.40.08 # I can quess that mute is probably almost universally known, but I'm almost positive that "line level" is something that would need translation for a non english speaker. 15.40.33 # S_a_i_n_t: yes, but I mean when do you use the phrase "line level" in a wps? 15.40.35 # I like to use "line level" instead of 0dB in my themes. 15.40.46 # ! 15.40.51 # ? 15.41.14 # 0db is much clear to me, but I guess that's a matter of taste 15.41.20 # much more 15.41.35 # I guess so. 15.42.22 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/detroitVI Sixth edition of 25 samples + 48 hours + detroit party (july 31) (maybe streamed online!)) 15.43.16 # I actually like to have a numeric dB value and a text indicator for Mute, Line Level and Max Volume if space allows for it, however...non of the text options I use can be translated which I personally find to be a PITA 15.44.08 # the problem with adding strings to be available to "some" WPS is the question where to stop. If it's used for the default - ok, the "Disk" one might justify itself if someone also implements the rest to make use of it in the "track info" 15.44.26 # perhaps we should add the possibility of translations to the wps format 15.44.30 # JdGordon was saying at one point a few days ago that it wouldn;t be too hard to get the strings from a user created text file, and I guess that could be included in themes...which would be truly awesome. 15.45.22 # I should bug him about that actually ;) 15.45.51 # I was rather thinking of a new tag 15.46.21 # basically "for english, print this, for french, print this" etc. 15.46.43 # I'm not sure exactly how he was planning on doing it, some form of user created file was the impression I got at the time but I may well be wrong. 15.47.16 # in any case I think that is a better idea than adding various useful strings to the core language files 15.47.27 # Oh, definitely. 15.47.52 # The advantage of adding them to the core language files is of course that the regular translators see them 15.48.47 # yes, there is that..but as pixelma said, where to stop? And as you said, it adds to the RAM usage. 15.49.45 # I like the idea of some user created file, but that could also lead to said user getting the translations horribly wrong, or deliberately getting them "wrong". 15.49.50 Quit literal (Remote host closed the connection) 15.50.47 # There might be the option of putting them in a skin-only pseudo-feature 15.51.58 # That would keep them out of the core, while allowing to export those translations to a separate file, to be included in the wps, in a way to be figured out by JdGordon :) 15.52.02 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.52.25 Join rvvs89 [0] (robotnik@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 15.52.27 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 15.52.28 # I think they should be tied to the specific wps. anything else just adds new exciting failure options. 15.53.00 # then you won't see a lot translation I guess 15.53.33 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.53.36 # * pixelma wonders how exactly that "user: " thing was meant in the langv2 format and if it can be of any use 15.56.15 # I have often wondered about that myself, don't they *all* say "user: core"? 15.56.15 # pixelma: that is a possible downside. but any more general system has to be rather complex. 15.57.29 # S_a_i_n_t: currently yes, but I remember talk about it when midgey worked on the localisation of plugins (which wasn't finished) 15.58.14 # What was the intention behind it? 15.58.42 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host117-146-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 16.11.01 Quit literal (Remote host closed the connection) 16.12.36 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 16.12.47 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 16.13.14 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.14.07 Part Zagor 16.14.26 Quit flydutch (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.14.31 Join wombat23 [0] (~beuteltie@adsl-99-39-2-249.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 16.18.10 # pixelma: iirc the user field was intended to specify the user of a string, like core or a plugin so the plugin only strings could go in plugin lang files and would not need to be loaded in the core 16.19.12 Quit wombat23 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.19.32 # the patch in FS11297 is out of sync with svn :/ 16.19.58 # ok 16.20.17 # patches in a lot of flyspray tasks are out of sync with svn 16.20.39 # this is why you should work on getting patches you are interested in committed :) 16.22.16 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@e178063030.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.22.40 # n1s: could this be used for WPS only lang files? (maybe one for all these strings)? Not sure how loading could be handled but afaik the WPS is only loaded once at boot (or after changing it) and then kept in RAM so I guess it could work (shot in the dark though as I talk about things I'm not sure of) 16.23.03 # Torne: i reported a few times that it worked fine, both on tracker and irc... 16.23.20 # however it does not work well on all AMS targets 16.23.39 # so it's there while being sorted out - but interest seem to have dropped 16.23.44 # probably why it hasn;t been commited then, no? ;) 16.24.07 # if it breaks some targets, then no, it won't get committed.. 16.24.13 # probably needs more testing on clipv2/clip+ 16.24.30 # Luca_S: It's only a very small patch, it would be fairly easy for you to patch it by hand. 16.24.32 # sure - i'm not complaining about committing, just saying that it can't get tested if can't be applied 16.25.05 # Luca_S: so, resync it and upload it then 16.25.08 # to make the wav encoder plugin able to use all encoders we need to pull recording code on all models or enable it only for models with recording 16.25.17 # S_a_i_n_t: i resolved the wrong hunk, but it does not compile after that (missing method?) 16.25.48 # patch the hunks that fail by hand to a clean svn tree, svn diff > mypatchname.patch, boom...done, synced. 16.26.04 # Luca_S: then investigate, and work out why, and fix it? :) 16.27.40 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224236138.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.27.41 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 16.27.41 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 16.29.12 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.31.46 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.34.07 Join teru0 [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 16.34.09 Quit teru0 (Client Quit) 16.34.10 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 16.34.42 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 16.34.51 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.37.15 Quit teru (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.44.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.45.18 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 16.46.10 Join lasser [0] (~chatzilla@p57B591FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.46.38 # bieber: ping 16.47.09 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 16.47.49 Join blu3t0oth [0] (d957399a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.87.57.154) 16.48.06 # hi 16.48.10 # I have a question 16.48.12 # Just wait a sec 16.48.14 Quit balintx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.48.21 # sweet, ask it. 16.48.41 # Does Rockbox works well on this player? 16.48.42 # http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280526459379&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT 16.48.56 # I want to buy a player with rockbox compatability 16.49.04 # bieber: I successfully compiled themeeditor. And what shall I say. Nice :-) Since months my slefmade wps was broken, and now I could repair it in 10 minutes because of the error hints of your themeeditor. Thanks for the great work! 16.49.33 # ups... selfmade 16.49.33 # uhm... FS11297 - the clock divider table was #defined for AS3525_PCLK_FREQ == 40000000, but in clock-target.h it gets defined to 41333334, that's why it des not compile... 16.49.40 # blu3t0oth: Supported players on on the rockbox main page, if the player isn;t listed there rockbox will not run on that player. 16.50.14 # I found mine 16.50.15 # but 16.50.26 # I don't know if the 2 gb version is working 16.50.43 # What player is it? I can't be bothered looking at the link sorry... 16.51.10 # Sandisk Sansa e250 2 GB 16.51.28 # Yes, rockbox runs on this device. 16.51.30 # Luca_S: try the penultimate patch 16.51.41 # S_a_i_n_t: Thank you 16.51.51 # It doesn;t matter what size the internal storage is. 16.51.53 # blu3t0oth: does the front page not make it clear? 16.51.57 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 16.52.55 # it says e200 series (all models) 16.53.12 # Ah ok, thanks 16.53.12 # can you suggest a way to make it clearer? 16.53.25 # You said you'd looked at that already 16.54.05 # Yea, i was thinking that e250 is not e200 16.56.04 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 16.56.06 # * Torne looks confused.. then why did you think it worked on the e250 at all? 16.56.15 # what i mean is, what gave you the impression that the size would matter 16.56.43 Join lmjubuntu [0] (~lmjubuntu@58.195.42.183) 17.00.47 Quit blu3t0oth () 17.01.32 # You scared him away Torne :P 17.08.54 Join |liar| [0] (~liar@213.162.68.215) 17.11.22 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.19.51 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.23.52 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host125-49-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.27.09 # funman: the penultimate patch applies cleanly, compiles and runs :) 17.35.30 Join chaos [0] (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 17.38.08 Part chaos 17.45.58 # hmmm, this mdct compiler option test was rather interesting. O2 is faster than Os (which is used in svn) for all the codecs but O3 is significantly slower than O2 for all codecs *except* wma where it's actually quite a bit faster than O2... 17.47.27 # O3 is 8% faster than O2 for the 128kbps wma test file 17.48.05 # but i suppose we don't want to build the lib with different options for different codecs, do we? 17.49.07 # pixelma: i suppose that could work 17.49.41 # we would need different lang files for different wps's then or there wouldn't be much point 17.50.00 # well, or cleverer loading 17.52.12 Quit bmbl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.52.22 # uhm... something strange happened! fuzev2, frequency switching patch, audio on pllb: panic stack underflow.. viewportmanagr 17.53.00 Quit |liar| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.53.12 # and before panicking, the fm radio started jumping across stations... from 92.6 to 92.3 then 108 and stopped tere 17.53.13 # there 17.53.44 # when i tried to change it, it went to 108 and a few seconds after, had the panic 17.53.49 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 17.54.47 # strange that it worked for about 45mins (the second half of brazil-nederland :D) 17.57.23 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.59.40 # n1s: thats just changing the compiler flags for mdct.c? 18.00.26 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.00.31 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.09.00 # saratoga: well, the whole codec lib but the other stuff shouldn't make this kind of difference 18.09.23 Join |liar| [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 18.09.26 # n1s: this is for ARM? 18.09.32 # no, coldfire 18.10.05 # is wma using different sizes than the other codecs or something? 18.11.08 # doing the same tests for arm might be interesting though 18.12.04 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 18.12.07 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 18.13.16 # n1s: yes WMA/WMAPRO is weird 18.13.28 # it uses 5 (or 6 for Pro) window sizes all at once 18.13.38 # all the other codecs use either 1 or 2 window sizes 18.13.59 # the difference for CF makes some sense, theres hardly any ASM for it 18.14.07 # i would be surprised about aram 18.14.09 # arm 18.15.15 # i think i'll stick with O2 for cf and leave hacking up a solution for wma for someone else, it's still better than the Os used in svn 18.20.21 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 18.30.16 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.34.33 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p5099d40e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.34.38 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.137.241) 18.36.31 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.36.35 Join kachna [0] (~kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 18.38.19 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 18.42.43 Quit DerPapst1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.43.39 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 18.44.05 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.44.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.44.43 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.137.241) 18.44.46 Quit simonrvn (Disconnected by services) 18.45.22 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@210.9-ppp.3menatwork.com) 18.47.08 Quit storm` () 18.52.37 # I can very reliably reproduce the extra button press after exiting a plugin problem now on my e200 18.53.09 # When starting the dict plugin and exiting with a brief press of the power button, the problem appears 18.53.48 # Are you talking about exiting a Plugin eating the first button press? 18.54.42 # yes 18.55.44 # It does not happen when I hold the power button a little longer, releasing it only when we have fully returned to the plugin menu (and the "Cancelled" popup has disappeared) 18.58.29 # It happens both on my sansa e200 and on my sansa clip+, so it does not seem to have anything to do with having a scrollwheel or not 18.59.03 # It has been annoying me on my iPod Nano1/2Gs for as long as I remember... 19.00.35 # I believe it may be linked to the scroll-wheel sometimes nut working until after a button-press also. 19.00.43 # (again, on Nano1/2G) 19.00.55 # s/nut/not/ 19.02.36 # bertrik: is it specific to some plugins or does it happen for all (thinking about those using pluginlib actions and the others)? 19.06.35 # pixelma, I don't know yet, but it's very reproducible with the dict plugin, also with pictureflow if you press power quickly after entering it 19.07.12 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.07.21 Quit lmjubuntu (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.11.18 # * amiconn grumbles 19.11.40 # The old text viewer did chunked reading when the file didn't fit into the available buffer 19.11.42 # I think with dict, we don't really do much in the plugin, just waiting in rb->kbd_input 19.12.56 # The new one apparently stops playback to use the audio buffer, which is (a) bad if you want to read something large-ish while listening to music, and (b) limiting the file size, especially on lowmem targets 19.13.41 # Sounds like a bad idea indeed 19.14.24 # maybe take it to the dev ml? 19.16.35 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-67-57-51.mcn.bellsouth.net) 19.18.38 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.154.92) 19.24.22 # That does seem like a horid idea indeed, the few times I do actually use text_viewer I'm usually listening to music also. :/ 19.27.59 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797C393.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.51 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.33.02 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.33.17 # lasser: Thanks, glad to hear it worked well for you. Give it another week or two, and it should get really interesting :) 19.33.40 # woot 19.33.49 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9958.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.34.29 # bieber: Ok. What are you working on? Or is it a secret? 19.34.43 # No secrets, I'm working on the theme rendering 19.35.50 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.36.15 # By mid next week, I should have most everything implemented, and I'll have the device control panel fixed up so that there aren't any redundant settings. Then I'm going to add a timer panel to automatically advance time so you can watch things move 19.37.21 # Then after that I'll be working on some drag and drop editing for WPS files 19.40.12 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 19.40.25 # wow 19.40.48 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 19.42.43 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.43.47 # i need some help for apps/ code : i would like to confirm if encoder selection is handled as global settings 19.44.43 # I would like to reuse enc_config.c code in a .wav encoder plugin, but I am not sure if plugins are allowed to change global (recording) settings 19.46.04 # rec format: wvpk ? on mine - it's in .rockbox/config.cfg 19.46.13 # amiconn: the text viewer isn't stealing audio buffer. 19.46.53 # (i inserted that '?' fyi) 19.48.32 # simonrvn: well yes we can record in wavpack, mp3, wav or aiff 19.48.40 # bieber: What about inserting code snippets? Like "insert %V tag" with a popup for all the options? Or will that be the work for next gsoc? ;-) 19.49.49 Nick funman is now known as LambadaCalculus3 (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.49.51 # funman: yeh, that setting as you know was set from the settings sub-menus. but you said plugins. thought it might be useful, sorry. 19.52.21 # simonrvn: well that answers my first question so thank you 19.52.48 # np 19.53.05 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-67-57-37.mcn.bellsouth.net) 19.54.05 # the options in recording menu are just a shortcut to the settings 19.54.08 Nick LambadaCalculus3 is now known as funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.55.17 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.58.19 # lasser: That will be part of the graphical editing 19.58.41 # For viewports, you'll be able to click and drag an area on the preview, and then set its options 19.59.15 # mm i see 19.59.19 # bieber: cool! 20.00.43 # JdGordon: ping? check my question at 19:44 (logs time) 20.01.31 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 20.02.54 # saratoga: i misread the test results pretty badly, that wma discrepancy isn't there... 20.03.12 # ah! it is, it's my table that weird 20.03.17 # sorry 20.05.56 Join ryran [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.08.49 # QQ: hopped onto my build machine to get a new build for my ipod for the first time in ... a month and a half maybe.. and upon doing a make reconf was greeted with an error about arm-elf-eabi-gcc being missing. Is this something new or changed in the build process for arm? 20.09.09 # new toolchain 20.09.16 # mm 20.09.35 # you need to build a new one. delete the old toolchain directory, run rockboxdev.sh again and ask for an eabi toolchain when it prompts 20.09.52 # ah that's it? cool! 20.10.09 # well, it will take a while :) 20.10.23 # heh 20.10.40 # pixelma: I had a look at the onda 777 manual patch - the English is fine (if a little informal), but I think the instructions need a little more detail. e.g. "item Compile the bootloader (this will generate a \fname{ccpmp.bin} file)." 20.11.02 # to be clear, since this is NOT what I do everyday, the toolchain dir would be the dir in /usr/local right? (As in, /usr/local/arm-elf) 20.11.07 # However, I guess that is temporary as when appropriate (not yet?) we will supply that 20.11.25 # ryran: yes 20.11.35 # n1s: THANKS 20.11.38 # any reason FS#7831 - FLAC files with "unknown" total samplecount are rejected hasn't been committed? 20.13.50 # saratoga: i assume linuxstb opened the bug and then didn't see the patch ? 20.22.45 # @ ns1 or Torne or anyonen else: do we still need the old arm toolchain to build for ipods or only arm-eabi? 20.24.36 # only for ipod4g 20.24.40 # and for testing 20.24.59 # I seeeeee. thanks funman. 20.25.41 Quit CGL (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.27.08 # funman: Since r27213 it seems to 20.27.36 # Err, that's the editor 20.27.57 # * amiconn slightly confused 20.29.09 Join webguest04 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.29.33 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 20.29.36 Quit webguest04 (Client Quit) 20.31.33 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 20.32.33 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2D064.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.33.25 # AlexP: Hello. What do you think about http://pastebin.ca/1893525 ? It makes the first column in the tags tables narrower. 20.35.46 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.36.06 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 20.39.14 # New commit by 03saratoga (r27244): Commit FS#7831. Corrects our flac decoder to not reject files that have samplecount set to 0. 20.40.08 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.40.58 # r27244 build result: All green 20.41.02 Quit ryran (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.41.17 Join ryran [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.41.53 # New commit by 03saratoga (r27245): Add Joshua Hulst to credits for FS#7831. 20.43.32 # r27245 build result: All green 20.43.51 # funman: I just noticed you left a comment 7days ago on a task I opened a while back. (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11344) you told me to ping Blue_Dude ... who's that by the way? 20.44.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.45.13 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.154.92) 20.46.56 # anyone know why bigbambi closed FS#7565 - support for the TPA tag? 20.47.09 # saratoga: You could ask me :) 20.47.20 # somehow i didn't see your name 20.47.44 # ryran: hes the person who wrote the hotkey code 20.47.59 # AlexP: have you seen my message above? 20.48.28 # fml: Yep, and sounds fine - I'll just have a quick look how it looks 20.48.49 # saratoga: I can't actually remember - it was part of the devcon clean up 20.49.02 # AlexP: ok, I'll wait 20.49.18 # AlexP: this is why its good to put a message when you reject something :) 20.49.24 # Indeed yes 20.50.25 # goolging around suggests that TPA is ancient, so thats probably why it was rejected 20.50.46 # I suspect it was as it is an obsolete tag and nobody had taken an interest so it was just rotting 20.51.41 # But I don't suspect there would be any real opposition if you wanted to add it 20.52.49 # fml: Looks good to me 20.53.21 # AlexP: commit? 20.53.28 # saratoga: Incidently, you didn't see my name there as it isn't as such - bigbambi is an oooooold nick :) 20.53.32 # fml: Sure 20.54.10 # fml: I think it better to have the odd tag wrapped on mutiple lines than loads of the descriptions 20.54.11 # New commit by 03alle (r27246): Make the first column in the tag tables narrower 20.55.06 # AlexP: what do you mean? 20.55.45 # r27246 build result: All green 20.56.41 # fml: In general the description is longer than the tag, so with a wider tag column fewer tags took multiple lines, but loads of descriptions did. Now with a narrower tag column, a couple of tags wrap but the descriptions look better, i.e. a narrower tag column is better 20.57.58 # New commit by 03alle (r27247): No need to capitalize every word 20.58.58 Quit ryran (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.59.27 # r27247 build result: All green 20.59.29 # AlexP: ah, yes, that's what I think too 21.00.49 # AlexP: and what about the fact that each parameter (in e.g. album art tag) is explained in its own table row? It'd do it differently: only one row, but with line breaks in the cell. 21.02.47 # fml: Yes, I think I agree 21.05.41 Quit CGL (Quit: http://wiki.n00b2hack.com.ve) 21.10.32 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 21.12.41 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 21.13.33 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.241) 21.17.39 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.154.92) 21.27.16 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.27.45 Part watto 21.29.04 # AlexP: why do we use \textless for < etc? It's only necessary in math mode (?) which we don't use. 21.32.50 # New commit by 03alle (r27248): Onle one table row per WPS tag 21.34.21 # r27248 build result: All green 21.38.06 # Does anyone have any idea why the mod codec metadata handler put the title of the mod in the artist field? 21.38.32 # There's even a comment explicitly saying so, so it must be intentional 21.38.58 # (See also http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11414) 21.38.59 Quit |liar| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.39.04 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 21.42.54 # _if I remember correctly_ mod doesn't have metadata in its usual sense, just something like an attached text where lines can be interpreted as something. I believe there is/was some common style about the order to use but also lots of lots mod authors put something else there. (citation needed) 21.43.19 # fml: No idea 21.44.26 # pixelma, I looked into the mod format, there is only a song title and basically nothing else (well there are instrument names). Besides that there's only the filename which is often the same as the song title. 21.45.08 # yeah, some authors used the instrument names for more info 21.45.44 # or "misused" 21.46.14 # One reason that I can think of that it is done the way it is now, is that it at least looks semi-decent in CabbbieV2, no "(root)" displayed 21.48.10 # I looked at a few .mod files and couldn't see an obvious pattern yet in the names of the instruments, so I think we can't really rely on that 21.48.32 # indeed 21.48.44 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.49.06 # help 21.49.19 # vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate= -vf scale=:,harddup -ofps 25 -o .mpg 21.49.21 # what to bitrate? 21.50.45 Quit lasser (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Iceweasel 3.0.6/2010062510]) 21.51.11 Join |liar| [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 21.51.18 # Is there some overview of default metadata values in case they're not set by the metadata parser? 21.55.49 # New commit by 03alle (r27249): No need to use textless, textgreater and textbar where <, > and | can be used 21.57.37 # r27249 build result: All green 21.57.44 Quit funman (Read error: No route to host) 21.59.26 Quit leavittx_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.59.26 Quit leavittx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.01.26 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 22.05.47 Quit |liar| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.12.06 Join |liar| [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.17.55 Join leavittx_ [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 22.25.20 Quit Galois (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.28.24 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@f052035109.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.36.39 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 22.38.26 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 22.41.10 # AlexP: oh, thanks. So do you think it can be committed this way for now? 22.41.55 # pixelma: Yes, it is a good start and it is best to get it in IMO 22.42.11 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 22.42.45 # unfortunatelly giovanni didn't answer since although he asked me quite a bit about it last week 22.42.56 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.44.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.55.59 Quit mischasworld (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.06.52 Join Mobius-1 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 23.08.09 Quit Mobius-1 (Client Quit) 23.08.49 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@inet20909nc-1s.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl) 23.09.30 # New commit by 03wodz (r27250): HD200 - Setup codec as I2S master and enable recording 23.11.09 # r27250 build result: All green 23.14.54 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.17.41 Quit fml (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.21.18 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 23.21.30 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2D064.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.34.09 Join wombat23 [0] (~beuteltie@adsl-76-230-21-225.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 23.39.06 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@adsl-67-57-37.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.39.51 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@254.63.199-77.rev.gaoland.net) 23.41.06 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 23.42.07 # what's the key combo to charge the clip+ with rockbox instead of OF? 23.42.12 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.43.46 # dfkt: hold select I think 23.45.04 # thanks saratoga, that's it - seems it only works when rockbox is running, not when the player is off 23.47.11 # dfkt: correct, the prebootloader will always boot the OF if theres USB connected 23.47.21 # its a safety thing meant to make it harder to brick a plaer 23.47.23 Quit wombat23 (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.47.26 # player 23.49.02 # ok, i was just trying every possible key combo to get it charging with rockbox (simply to get the screen to shut off, which the OF doesn't do for half an hour or so) :) 23.49.54 # we'll probably change that once we get rockbox USB working and fully debugged 23.50.53 # i hope one day rockbox will take over 100%, that would be the least hassle 23.56.29 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.58.14 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 23.58.45 Quit GeekShad0w (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)