--- Log for 06.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 19 hours ago 00.02.47 # saratoga: updated http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11281 00.03.21 # If the font size is large enough to have 32 bit offsets, will noffset then list the number of 32 bit fields? 00.03.57 # I'm thinking of committing that last patch and continuing from there, I'm afraid if I wait the commits will become huge :) 00.04.09 # And am I correct in assuming that firstchar is a unicode character, and the first glyph in the font corresponds to that code, and the rest of them continue one after the other after that? 00.08.25 # Torne: hrm... Then the words "Update on Stop" are a bit misleading IMO. It doesn't convey that it's update only and no creation. 00.08.36 Join wincent_balin [0] (~Miranda@g229220208.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.09.14 # fml: update implies creation? since when 00.09.15 # ? 00.10.21 Quit wincent (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.10.27 # Torne: hpw does it work if the option is set to NO and "create on stop" is set to YES? 00.10.40 # it creates a bookmark on stop 00.11.38 # feel free to change it to a better wording 00.11.59 # i totally forgot about the manual; I'll update it tomorrow, unless you want to :) 00.12.29 # mt: i'm ok with committing when you're ready 00.12.38 # how close is it to all fixed point? 00.13.27 # Torne: and if the bookmark exists already? Will it be updated? 00.13.50 # there isn't any such thing as updating a bookmark 00.13.54 # :) 00.14.07 # is perhaps the confusion here.. 00.14.21 # bookmarks don't get replaced (except in the MRU list if you set it to unique only) 00.14.55 # bookmark on stop says whether or not to create a bookmark, in the bookmark file for the current playlist, when you hit stop 00.15.09 # saratoga : The rest of the floating point stuff look much easier, (especially for mono/stereo .. multichannel needs more work, but it's still easier than what's been done so far), so I think it could probably be all fixed point by ~saturday. 00.15.13 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.15.20 # New commit by 03bieber (r27301): Theme Editor: Began working on font loading. Font header info is now read and spewed out onto the debug console 00.15.34 # update on stop says whether or not to create a bookmark, in the same file, but only if it already exists 00.15.41 # mt: nice 00.15.51 # it's applied first, so it doesn't matter what the bookmark on stop setting is 00.16.18 # saratoga: I've done a lot of cleaning to be able to produce this patch, so I think I'll commit it as is, just checking to see if you have any particular remarks 00.16.29 # Torne: why do we need a special setting for it then? Why can't it be a new option for the setting "Bookmark on stop"? 00.16.46 # mt: i think this is fine, its easier for me to follow if you work out of SVN anyway 00.16.49 # fml: because it's independant of tha 00.16.57 # just make sure its disabled in SVN 00.17.02 # also, that would not be one new option, that would be five new options 00.17.06 # r27301 build result: All green 00.17.10 # hm, okay, only four 00.17.11 # alright 00.17.42 # you'd have to have ask/no/yes - recent only/ask - recent only, duplicated again, with some suffix indicating it will also do something different if the file exists 00.17.43 # regarding comments, I'm mostly just interested in how to solve this annoying mdct issue so we can merge the Pro and Std wma_window functions 00.18.01 # (theres no need to duplicate "yes" of course) 00.18.41 # fml: the point is to override whatever your normal bookmarking preference is, in the case where a bookmark already exists for the playlist 00.18.58 # if it doesn't already exist, it will ask you, or make a recent bookmark only, or whatever else you selected as the normal preference 00.19.37 # Torne: I confess I'm not able to grok the bookmark creation logic and magic now. I give up! :-) But I'll probably reread your explanation tomorrow. Thank you! 00.19.57 # ..seriously, this is a problem then 00.20.03 # because it should be totally trivial 00.20.15 # saratoga: .. and maybe use our imdct too .. I'm just leaving tinkering in that for later, enough time on this for me now :) 00.20.24 # if you turn the new option on, and the bookamrk file exists, then it will create a bookmark, no matter what other settings are set. that's it. 00.20.27 # i understand 00.20.27 # it changes nothing else 00.20.33 # getting it to play audio at all will be nice 00.21.52 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.21.52 # yeah 00.22.01 # Torne: aha! Now I understand! So we have an option that masks another option, right? 00.23.36 # no! 00.23.48 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.23.54 # if the file doesn't exist, it changes nothing 00.24.13 # see 'and' above :) 00.26.40 # Torne: I meant the words "no matter what other settings are set" 00.27.24 # well, there are only these two settings that are relevant :) 00.27.27 # but yes 00.27.35 # it makes it ignore the other one, if the file exists 00.27.38 # that's the whole point 00.29.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 00.30.35 Quit Buschel () 00.30.36 # ok. Good night. 00.30.40 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 00.32.28 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.163) 00.32.29 Part domonoky 00.33.40 # New commit by 03mt (r27302): Partial conversion of the wmapro decoder to fixed point arithmetic. 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Fixes test_codec to work on files larger then the available audio buffer. Allows test_codec to work normally on the AMS ... 02.13.23 # r27303 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (saratoga committed) 02.17.24 # errors seem unrelated to my commit 02.18.10 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.25.00 # * S_a_i_n_t wishes that the USB screen was able to be themed. 02.25.17 # It's the one thing that my Apple_OF theme is missing. 02.46.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.48.04 Join evilnick__ [0] (~evilnick@static-68-236-178-103.ny325.east.verizon.net) 02.49.03 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.53.45 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.59.17 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 03.03.08 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 03.12.35 Join chid [0] (~masterchi@c122-106-86-195.randw3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 03.13.58 Quit simonrvn (Quit: BRB) 03.24.08 Quit chid () 03.29.53 # meh ... I tried to swap regular spaces for NBSP spaces in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS so that the Fuze v1 and Fuze v2 lines in the table would not wrap, and it got filtered out 03.30.18 # (hence the edit with no changes) 03.35.34 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@166.137.136.68) 03.37.00 Quit evilnick_ (Client Quit) 03.38.13 Quit evilnick__ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.52.47 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.08.32 Join Transformer [0] (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) 04.08.53 Quit Transformer (Excess Flood) 04.15.15 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 04.15.31 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@97.100.203.106) 04.18.15 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.18.17 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.18.17 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.18.19 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.18.35 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.18.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.18.57 Join tmzt__ [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 04.19.01 Quit tmzt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.21.17 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@210.121-ppp.3menatwork.com) 04.23.52 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f523b.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.24.54 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 04.25.02 Quit tmzt__ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.27.25 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.32.32 # Is there a way to increase the size of the simulator? 04.36.01 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.36.03 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.40.22 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 04.41.09 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.44.49 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.46.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.47.23 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 04.52.20 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.52.35 Join balintx_ [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 04.56.03 Join JdGordon [0] (3a601b9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.96.27.158) 04.59.01 Quit tmzt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.59.32 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 04.59.34 Quit balintx_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.00.31 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 05.04.38 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 05.04.55 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.05.05 Quit tmzt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.05.12 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 05.05.19 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 05.09.20 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.09.44 Quit tmzt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.09.49 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 05.15.05 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.103) 05.15.43 Join tmzt_ [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 05.18.03 Part fleebailey33 05.20.48 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.22.53 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.23.06 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 05.25.19 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 05.25.44 Quit tmzt_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.26.44 Quit binaryhermit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.28.25 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.29.03 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 05.30.05 Quit jennifur (Remote host closed the connection) 05.30.56 Join tmzt_ [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 05.31.17 Quit tmzt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.37.28 Quit tmzt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.37.33 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 05.39.24 # * S_a_i_n_t gets annoyed by the FMS not updating correctly. 05.40.30 # so go ahead and fix it :) 05.40.48 # te reuired change is actually pretty simple 05.41.56 # I wouldn't know where to start looking to be honest, why is it exactly that the update rate is so low? IMO it should be the same as the WPS. 05.42.24 # My main piss-off is sublines not working. 05.42.25 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 05.44.27 # hahahah, if you only have one preset saved in the fm presets, and have a simple "x of y presets" display (%al%Ti %Sx(of) %Tc) is shows as " of 1" 05.44.43 # as in " of 1" 05.45.20 Quit tmzt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.45.26 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 05.46.46 # because the fm screen is mostly static 05.46.53 # so it is only updated if it needs to be 05.47.01 # i.e it hasnt been properly converted to skins yet 05.47.36 # Ah, I would have thought that a subline would force it to update though. 05.47.56 # But, that didn't work out either. 05.47.59 # the skin redrawing thing is only called when it is absolutly needed 05.48.10 # t doesnt care about what is in the skin 05.48.19 # so it needs to be told to update more often 05.48.49 # Right, I get you now. 05.49.12 # so as usual, its an easy fix, just needs time 05.50.04 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 05.50.09 # Would there be anything/anyone against upping the update rate of the FMS until that time? 05.52.48 # it isnt actually so simple to jst do that 05.53.00 # there isnt just a magic number to change 05.54.31 # I see. 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Yes thats right i like the wakka wakka 07.48.18 # then again one of my main points of rockboxing my system 07.48.24 # was the ability to play nsfs 07.48.53 # im not complaining though. Just find it odd that it lacks sound there i guess 07.49.06 Quit balintx (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 07.49.39 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 07.49.44 # there was a commit recently that enabled the game sound. Which player do you have and which build exactly? 07.50.05 # fuze and a recent build 07.50.09 # newer then stable 07.50.16 # but maybe a commit or two behind 07.52.06 # I may need to build something less standard though. Most everything I want is in the commit but I miss the nes emulator though it also lacks sound 07.52.25 # that's not exact at all 07.52.42 # I wish emulators and doom were able to keep music playing instead of their own sound though 07.53.14 # 100630? 07.53.21 # the numbers flash by so fast 07.53.41 # 27188 07.53.45 # there we go 07.53.53 # 27188-100630 07.54.25 # that looks lika the date but the important bit is the revision number. You can look it up under System > Rockbox info 07.55.52 # the commit that enabled sound in pacbox was 27202 and some fixes and improvements a few commits later... ;) 07.58.53 # heh 07.58.58 # ok 07.59.19 # i really just didn't think i could be that far behind i had just updated to add lrc support 07.59.31 # thanks though 08.00.06 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.01.00 # you are almost exactly 100 revisions behind (not everything is code that runs on target though but still) :) 08.01.43 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 08.03.42 # cool i have sound 08.03.44 # heh 08.03.55 # somehow i still suck at pacman though 08.04.04 # waa waa waaaaaa 08.15.50 Join mitk [0] (~mitk@195.117.162.130) 08.17.12 Quit krazykit (Read error: Operation timed out) 08.17.27 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 08.21.41 # slightly offtopic, but I remember the sound on pacman being more "waka waka waka waka" 08.21.45 # ;) 08.22.08 # sure but i died and then i complained 08.22.13 # so waa waa waaaa is safe 08.22.29 # sounds not perfect either really 08.22.35 # but at least theres some sound 08.23.06 # Anyhow, I have limited space available on my FMS, would it make sense to display the RDS name in place of the preset name if RDS is available? 08.24.20 # ie. "%?(isRDSavailable)" 08.26.11 # probably 08.27.34 # Thanks, I don't use RDS and never have but I assumed that RDS name basically takes the place of a preset name if it's available. 08.30.03 Quit rado1 (Quit: Leaving.) 08.31.23 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.32.22 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.37.17 # what *is* RDS? i was guessing it was some ID broadcast by the station that a reciever can display, like station ID, some mini-ad/mini-slogan. 08.37.26 # s,ID,data, 08.37.43 # NM, i'll look it up 08.38.55 # ah, i was right 08.39.06 # IIUC it includes the station name, and metadata for the currently playing song. 08.40.00 # and more 08.40.14 # next track, playlength, etc. 08.40.31 # Pretty awesome really, but no stations here support it. 08.41.13 # a lot more data it seems :) 08.41.24 # en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System 08.42.20 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 08.43.02 # JdGordon: Can there be a "default" RadioArt image? Or does the image name *have* to match the preset name for RadioArt? 08.43.33 # yes to both 08.44.09 # the deault image is just %?C<%Cd|%xd(A)> 08.44.17 Join Guest22571 [0] (bjst@giant.haxx.se) 08.44.17 Quit Guest22571 (Changing host) 08.44.17 Join Guest22571 [0] (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.44.24 # search path for radio images only looks for the preset name 08.45.06 # Right, thanks. 08.46.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.46.21 Nick Guest22571 is now known as Zagor (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.48.16 # is there any nautilus script or commandline program that anyone knows to download lrc files 08.48.40 # my current method is taking too long (using amarok) 08.48.49 # im really looking for some sort of script 08.50.56 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Page closed) 08.53.11 # Not really sure that's ontopic wombatman 08.53.30 # I'm sure Google can help you. 08.53.36 # yea it isn't i guess though its definitely for rockbox 08.53.43 # i think i found a way to make it easier 08.54.40 # I like to add my lyrics manually (even though it takes ages) as then I *know* that the lyrics are correct, and that the lyrics are synced properly. 08.55.04 # I don't really trust anything that claims to automate this task to actually get it right. 08.55.16 # yea i like to have them synced properly but its too many songs to do for me 08.55.28 Quit tmzt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.55.44 Join tmzt [0] (~ircuser@99-157-224-139.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 08.55.48 # Do a couple of albums a day, and you'll get there eventually. 08.56.26 # well the amarok script can apparently do quite a few things for me that will simplify this 08.56.34 # i just didn't find them til i said something 09.03.45 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 09.09.55 Quit rvvs89 (Changing host) 09.09.55 Join rvvs89 [0] (robotnik@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89) 09.10.41 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 09.16.10 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.16.24 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 09.17.32 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host125-49-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.19.37 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@dslb-088-078-020-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.19.38 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 09.19.38 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.27.54 Quit Frampis (Quit: .) 09.30.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.36.48 Quit balintx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.37.48 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 09.38.47 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 09.42.01 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.43.50 # * JdGordon has an idea how to allow the skins to say how often they should update 09.44.02 # Oh? 09.44.07 # Sounds awesome. 09.45.51 # bassically just add a tag to say how many roughly how many milliseconds between partial updates 09.46.43 # Aha. Sounds like a plan. I guess that way a themer can stop it from updating unnecessarily often if the theme doesn't need to. 09.46.49 # And, faster if it does. 09.47.22 # yeah 09.47.42 # although from my batt benchs it doesnt look like updating more often is a big deal 09.47.48 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.47.57 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 09.48.13 # Oh, yes...I remember that actually. That was kinda amusing. 09.51.46 # hmm... wanna test a quick patch to fix the fms not updating? 09.51.59 # Hmmm, I've found a slight bug with the preset position. Displaying "position X of Y". If you change from preset to scan mode and move of the frequency of the preset it displays " of Y" 09.52.53 # If you can compile me a windows sim, then yeah I can test it. I don't actually have any FM hardware for my targets. 09.52.59 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCBA18.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.54.50 Quit balintx (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 09.55.04 # * JdGordon will very slowly test on his shitty laptop then 09.55.23 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 09.55.55 # Hmmm, I guess it makes sense, but it seems kinda odd. If you're on scan mode, then change to preset mode (and you're not on a preset frequency) then my "X of Y presets" display displays " of Y presets". It makes total sense, as it isn't a preset frequency, but it would be nice if it jumped to the closest preset when changinf from scan to preset mode. 09.56.35 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.59.29 Join whichUTF [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 09.59.53 # Hi. Does rockbox support UTF 8 ? 10.00.07 # yes 10.00.25 # nice, and UTF 16 ? 10.00.50 # iirc it's recommended to do so. no, i don't think so. i haven't seen it mentioned. 10.02.17 # it's recommended to use UTF 8, and you don't think rockbox suppoerts UTF 16, correct ? 10.03.53 # It doesn't, well...it isn't lested in the default codepage selection. 10.03.58 # *listed. 10.04.22 # which one isn't listed ? :-) 10.04.34 # There are many codepages to choose from, and UTF-8 is included, but not UTF-16 10.04.45 # thank you 10.05.14 # The manual could tell you which codepages are listed exactly, I'm not typing them all out lol ;) 10.05.24 # what target are you looking at? 10.05.28 # (which player)? 10.05.33 # H140 10.05.56 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-iriverh100/rockbox-build.html 10.06.44 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 10.06.45 # Look in Settings/General Settings/Display/Default Codepage 10.07.02 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27304): make the fms update 10.07.09 # Many thanks; I'm thinking of converting my tags to ID3v2.4, my tagger only converts to ID3v2.4 UTF 8, just wanted to be sure before launching myself. 10.07.36 # ^ fixes FS#11442... /me learns how to do git svn dcommit 10.08.01 # Woo! 10.08.06 # (for both things) 10.08.35 # r27304 build result: All green 10.08.58 # Would it be possibly for the Radio to jump to the closest Preset when changing from Scan to Preset mode? 10.09.29 # It is the only way I can think of to stop it displaying " of X presets" 10.09.54 # it probably could be done 10.09.54 Quit whichUTF (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 10.11.09 # does the wavpack codec build for anyone else on eabi/sansafuzev2 target? 10.11.47 Join Mich [0] (~M_cH@pool-71-115-199-163.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 10.13.28 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.13.29 # mm, not exactly accurate, in the simdisk target for said dap 10.13.59 # w00t, I've got font rendering sorta working 10.14.27 # nice 10.14.42 # bieber: Good work! 10.14.50 # * S_a_i_n_t pats bieber on the back. 10.14.53 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 10.15.06 # "Good show Sir. Jolly Good show." ;) 10.15.07 # And by kind of, I mean the fonts are rendering perfectly to my debug image file, but they're not showing up anywhere on screen :P 10.15.23 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 10.15.24 # ...close enough :P 10.15.44 # hehe 10.16.10 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@110.20.210.205) 10.16.50 # btw, font 0 is built-in, and font 1 is the theme default, right? Or is it the other way around? 10.17.01 # correct 10.17.06 # 0 == built in 10.17.11 # 1 == Userfont 10.17.24 Join JdGordon2 [0] (~jonno@175.33.212.86) 10.17.58 # bieber: I found a tag you may not be aware of (not in the manual, or the wiki) 10.18.01 # %Sr 10.18.01 Quit JdGordon (Disconnected by services) 10.18.06 # What's it do? 10.18.10 Nick JdGordon2 is now known as JdGordon (~jonno@175.33.212.86) 10.18.16 # It's a language direction tag. 10.18.32 # Like a conditional for left-to-right? 10.18.41 # %?Sr 10.18.46 # Oh, okay 10.19.06 # bieber: for font numbering (this might not actually worry you at all) 0 is always the inbuilt, 1 is always the theme font (may be different if it is a remote skin) 2+ are font labels for that skin 10.19.10 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.19.40 # Got it 10.19.44 # %Fl(ID,font-file-name) 10.20.21 # I already had most of the infrastructure for the font system in place, it's just that the font class was ignoring the file name that got passed to it and using Qt's text rendering 10.21.03 # Now I've got it reading the font file and putting together images from them, I just have to make it into an object that'll show in the scene 10.21.21 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.21.30 # are you using the .fnt or .bdf? 10.21.53 # S_a_i_n_t: Stick it on flyspray please (that it isn't in the manual) 10.22.04 # That way I'll fix it eventually 10.22.18 # oh, should be .fnt in that %Fl 10.22.33 # AlexP: Will do, I was supposed to do it last night, but I forgot until just now when bieber came in. 10.22.46 # Cheers :) 10.22.51 # JdGordon: The .fnt 10.23.04 # S_a_i_n_t: Plus any others that may or may not be there :) 10.23.13 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@175.34.58.35) 10.23.34 # I'm going to include the built-in font with the binary, but others will have to either in the project's font directory or in a central font directory for the theme editor 10.23.53 # I was going to bundle all the built-in fonts, until I realized that there's 15MB of them 10.24.19 # AlexP: My intention was to add a manual description for it, and a new description for %ax (the one in the manual is terrible). But it will be a text file sorry, I suck with TeTex. 10.24.50 # You can just copy the ones that are already there :) 10.25.19 Quit balintx (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 10.25.30 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 10.25.40 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.25.47 # Ah, good point. Well, ok, I may stick a complete patch on Flyspray then depending on how ambitious I'm feeling ;) 10.33.31 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@188.107.194.143) 10.34.42 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.36.31 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.37.00 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.41.42 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 10.43.52 # Hmmmm...just got some message about SDL not being installed, or not properly configured or something../me thought it "just worked" :/ 10.46.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.55.57 Quit wombatman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.02.11 # S_a_i_n_t: using a sim compiled by JdGordon? 11.02.26 # on Windows 11.04.08 Join JdGordon2 [0] (~jonno@175.32.152.133) 11.05.40 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.12.41 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.13.15 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.15.17 Quit Stummi (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 11.15.31 Join Stummi_ [0] (stummi@doppeldenk.org) 11.15.31 Quit Stummi_ (Excess Flood) 11.15.59 Join Stummi [0] (stummi@doppeldenk.org) 11.18.14 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.ntl.com) 11.23.57 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.25.02 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 11.25.19 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.ntl.com) 11.41.01 # pixelma: No, trying to compile a sim myself in my CygWin environment. 11.41.15 # I've no idea what the heck is going on. 11.41.40 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 11.41.50 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 11.41.55 # I'm updating CygWin at the moment to see if it magically fixes itself, if not, I'll repost the error and go from there. 11.43.09 Nick JdGordon2 is now known as JdGordon (~jonno@175.32.152.133) 11.43.45 # were you able to run sims before? 11.58.10 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206241167.chello.pl) 12.04.22 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.08.57 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.19.26 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-42-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 12.26.32 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@141.45.201.254) 12.32.12 # has anyone had problems ever with the sim playing back maybe 1s of audio and then appearing to stop working except the ui thread works fine? 12.33.26 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.42.07 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@141.45.201.254) 12.46.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.21 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@80-123-42-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 12.59.04 Quit halmi (*.net *.split) 12.59.04 Quit n17ikh (*.net *.split) 12.59.05 Quit Kitar|st (*.net *.split) 13.00.20 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-182-80-196.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 13.00.41 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-b21ff314-74736162.cust.telenor.se) 13.01.35 # why the heck do we have %?aa instead of no|yes? 13.05.30 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.05.42 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@host-64-234-82-192.nctv.com) 13.09.39 # JdGordon: isn't that standard for binary conditionals? 13.10.04 # ? 13.10.38 # it confuses me everytime :) 13.11.03 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-39-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 13.11.19 # %?C works the same iiuc, and %ia 13.11.51 # yes|no lets you drop the last part more easily if you don't want anything for "no" and yes is more usual 13.12.32 # I know... I'm jjust complainig because I'm fiddling with that code and it is confusing me 13.12.33 # otherwise you'l need "|yes" at least 13.12.40 # not really 13.13.35 # * JdGordon is getting very screwy sdl audio playback 13.13.36 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.13.49 # I dont know if its the patch or my laptop :( 13.15.01 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.18.57 Quit kugel (Quit: Bye) 13.21.54 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-89-160-72-125.cust.bredband2.com) 13.25.56 Quit Mich () 13.27.16 # I screwed up playback on MPIO and deleted branch where I had working code :-/ 13.27.40 # :'( 13.42.26 # S_a_i_n_t: to stop display of " of X presets" - %?Ti<%Ti of %Tc presets|> 13.43.48 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.46.50 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.48.49 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 13.49.56 Quit t0rc (Max SendQ exceeded) 13.50.25 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 13.51.25 Quit mitk (Quit: Leaving) 13.55.51 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-b21ff314-74736162.cust.telenor.se) 14.03.45 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.08.12 Quit xavieran (Quit: ➤➤➤➤➤➤ Unicode shall reign forever! ➤➤➤➤➤➤) 14.12.52 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 14.21.02 Quit merbanan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.22.00 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-b21ff314-74736162.cust.telenor.se) 14.38.40 # how do I check ram usage between builds like the delta table? 14.38.55 Quit r0b- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.39.09 # isn't that listed if you hover on the table? 14.39.25 # yes, but I want to check locally :) 14.40.25 # JdGordon, I notice that apps/radio/presets.c and apps/radio/radio.c reference each other. Would you mind if I cleaned up the prototype names a bit (and maybe also declare them in a shared header file)? 14.40.53 # not at all... go ahead :) 14.41.01 # I just couldnt handle the massive file anymore 14.41.47 # ok, I think I'll prefix the globals in presets.c with presets_ for example 14.42.09 # JdGordon: compare the numbers in rockbox-info.txt 14.42.35 # ta 14.42.46 # the bloat-o-meter only measures code size I guess 14.44.12 # yeah 14.44.51 # FYI, my patch to get the new parser into the core is still about a +5K code size delta which sucks a bit :/ 14.45.37 # a BIG chunk of that is a redundant tags table which should be removeable some time before commit so it wont be terrible 14.45.38 # I hope 14.46.23 # is there an easy way to see how big each function is? without looking at the .map? 14.46.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.47.57 # objdump on the object file you're interested in 14.47.59 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.48.02 # if it's localised 14.49.32 # with -t? 14.49.43 # dump the symbols table 14.49.46 # S_a_i_n_t: SDL on Cygwin won't magically fix itself. There is no pre-built package - you need to build sdl if you want to use it 14.55.41 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.57.28 # JdGordon: what are the advantages of the new parser? 14.58.14 # * JdGordon isnt sure how to actually answer that 14.59.09 # 1) remove dupelicated code, 2) it is a much nicer system, 3) simpler code, 4) share code with the external tools, 5) adds some niceecites which cant be done in svn, 6) makes adding complex tags easier 14.59.30 # I'am puzzled. Data are transfered to codec with DMA ok, but I have no sound. The codec config is almost the same as previous. The only difference is that now I use it in master mode not as a slave. But if codec do not provide proper IIS signals DMA would not fire so clocking IS ok. The most strange thing is that recording works. 15.00.37 # * JdGordon is pretty sure the new parser can be shrunk a bit also 15.03.42 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.03.48 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 15.04.40 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 15.06.09 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 15.07.38 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 15.16.52 Nick topik_ is now known as topik (awesome@wtf.grmpf.org) 15.20.36 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.23.23 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.28.57 Join Dannyboy [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 15.29.42 # Could someone create a modified iriver firmware for me to restore the original firmware 15.30.02 Quit evilnick_B (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.30.38 # just download the origional iriver firmware file then 15.31.21 # yes but that wont work as i have flashed rockbox to the ram 15.31.30 # and i didnt create a backup of my firmware 15.31.45 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.31.59 # Dannyboy: are you also the Hellish one posting to the forums? 15.32.05 # yes 15.32.42 # ok, I was worried a bit it could be two people with the same problem 15.33.12 # can you use the iriver ih120 20gb hard drive in the ihp 140? 15.33.30 # i would be flashing the original firmware using the 20gb hard drive 15.41.10 # * bertrik tries to figure out the differences between the various radio preset save functions 15.42.29 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-182-129-153.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.44.02 Quit merbanan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.44.38 # I would know auto-scan way and the "save as preset" or "edit preset" way (from a user's point of view) 15.44.57 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-b21ff314-74736162.cust.telenor.se) 15.45.55 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.46.34 # New commit by 03teru (r27305): lrcplayer: ... 15.46.39 # amiconn: I've never had to build it before, usually it "just worked". ie. install CygWin, download the RB source, build toolchain...make build/SIM/whatever. 15.47.05 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.47.57 # Any suggestions as to why it wouldn't work now, or, why it did before with no intervention from myself? 15.48.08 # re: SDL 15.48.15 # r27305 build result: All green 15.49.44 # S_a_i_n_t: I'm still not sure if the problem is building or running the sim 15.52.47 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-182-50-176.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.56.30 # S_a_i_n_t: It cannot have worked without intervention. What you may have done in your old installation is to install the sdl and crosscompiler packages from rockbox.org 15.56.52 # But these are for Cygwin 1.5, which is no longer current, and no one made packages for Cygwin 1.7 yet 16.01.19 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@93-82-41-194.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.03.33 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.03.38 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 16.03.54 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-41-148.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.06.50 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.07.54 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@188-22-118-238.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.10.17 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.10.20 Quit JdGordon (Read error: No route to host) 16.10.40 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-36-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.13.20 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.14.41 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@188-22-119-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.16.59 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.17.42 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-38-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.18.30 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 16.19.32 Quit rvvs89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.19.58 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.20.20 # It's unbelievable - sound output is broken by my recent changes in button-hd200.c and button-target.h. 16.20.23 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@188-22-120-213.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.20.28 Join rvvs89 [0] (robotnik@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 16.21.43 # maybe you flipped the wrong GPIO somewhere 16.23.15 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.24.26 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-41-29.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.25.49 # bertrik: You are right - I disabled audio serial data out pin :-/ 16.27.03 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.27.19 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@80-123-37-237.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.28.36 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.29.38 # I'll replace strcpy by strlcpy and strcat by strlcat where possible in radio.c and preset.c, OK? 16.29.54 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.29.55 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224239192.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.29.55 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 16.29.55 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 16.30.01 # it will be safer for sure :-) 16.30.14 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-40-139.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.32.08 # oh, we still use strcpy a lot in order places too 16.32.54 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.33.48 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.33.59 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@93-82-35-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.34.13 # a crude search gives me 99 hits on strlcpy and still 71 hits on strcpy (apps/plugins/ not included) 16.34.20 # (in apps) 16.35.08 # I'll say go ahead and squash this. using strcpy() is asking for trouble 16.36.17 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.36.54 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-46-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.39.17 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.39.56 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.42.47 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@93-82-38-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.44.01 # New commit by 03wodz (r27306): HD200 - more work on remote handling 16.44.18 # arrgh 16.44.43 # New commit by 03wodz (r27307): HD200 - Fix GPIO setup in button_init_device()- this change fixes sound output broken in r27258. 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Please correct and re-run configure!" 17.02.09 # Which I have never seen before, ever. 17.06.07 # New commit by 03kugel (r27308): Add --prefix option to configure, and add it to make reconf. 17.07.46 # r27308 build result: All green 17.07.47 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.10.12 # New commit by 03bertrik (r27309): Clean up naming of radio preset functions and move global radio preset methods into apps/radio/presets.h 17.10.25 Quit Dannyboy (Disconnected by services) 17.11.48 # r27309 build result: All green 17.11.59 # New commit by 03kugel (r27310): Rockbox as an application: Add an 320x240 SDL application target. ... 17.13.53 # pixelma: amiconn: If one of you is able to tell me where I *should* find this "sdl-config", it would be a start at least. If either of you know what's going wrong here, even better. 17.14.06 Part Zagor 17.14.19 # r27310 build result: All green 17.15.24 # S_a_i_n_t, for me (ubuntu 10.04) it's in libsdl1.2-dev 17.15.48 # bertrik: cygwin 17.15.53 # Which is why it doesn't work 17.16.02 # yeah, I kinda need a cygwin specific answer :/ 17.16.05 # No sdl package for cygwin IIRC 17.16.09 # S_a_i_n_t: I would strongly advice You to use virtual machine with some upstream linux distribution 17.16.14 # RAAA woot 17.16.19 # wodz: We all have many times :) 17.16.45 # I want to know why it suddenly just decided to not work. 17.16.58 # I've never done anything special to build a SIM before 17.18.11 Quit leavittx_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.18.21 # S_a_i_n_t: investigate it 17.18.35 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.19.13 # the hardcoded lcd dimensions could probably be replaced by some questions(and according cmdline options) in configure 17.19.15 # kugel: Gee...really? I didn;t think of that :P 17.21.50 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 17.22.35 # My option seems to be "compile SDL from source", but, if noone else has to do this with CygWin, and I never have done before...why do I have to now? 17.22.40 # Did something change? 17.22.41 # gevaerts: I think I can find a way to make the directory split doable without hitting target builds too much 17.23.21 # S_a_i_n_t: search for sdl-config.exe on your machine, then find out why configure doesn't see it 17.23.35 # maybe without the .exe 17.23.36 # kugel: It isn't there. 17.23.44 # that's why it doesn;t see it. 17.24.40 # S_a_i_n_t: you could also check if some recent changes to configure broke it 17.24.51 # I think you need sdl-config on cygwin as well 17.25.12 # Well, apparently. 17.25.50 # I've never had to do anything special to build a sim using CygWIn before, but now...I get this error about sdl-config. 17.26.31 # * kugel thinks we should go for the "use a VM or find out the cygwin problems yourself" route 17.26.58 # cygwin is always the one causing random issues :) 17.31.58 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 17.38.16 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 17.38.25 # * kugel has a semi-hack for using a runtime evaluated codec directory 17.41.26 # AlexP: This issue isn't random though 17.41.42 # For sdl on cygwin you need to build it. 17.41.51 # No, and none ever are in a strict sense 17.42.12 # I just meant in general it tends to break not infrequently 17.42.12 # This is straightforward - there is no package, hence diy 17.42.25 # Yes 17.43.20 # I agree :) 17.43.26 # It's not even difficult to build. The only thing to obey if you want to have double-clickable sims is to move cygwin1.dll somewhere into the path (or extend the path) 17.44.32 # AlexP: it only breaks because many people chose to ignore it ;) 17.44.39 # amiconn: have looked at optimizing bliting asm routines for MPIO? 17.44.49 # s/have/have You/g 17.45.11 # pixelma: I wouldn't say ignore - it is just that it does some things differently to linux and the number of developers using cygwin is very small :) 17.45.38 # same with MacOS ;) 17.45.44 # yeah :) 17.47.38 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.50.15 Quit detaos (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.58.21 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.00.39 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.02.57 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@2001:0:4137:9e74:0:fbf7:beb1:ba3d) 18.06.00 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 18.06.22 Quit halmi (Quit: halmi) 18.07.55 # is there a way to reach pitchscreen other than ACTION_WPS_PITCHSCREEN key/combo when in WPS? 18.11.08 # where would we like to have the rockbox' config dir? 18.11.36 # $(HOME)/.rockbox or $(HOME)/.config/rockbox (or rockbox.org)? 18.12.47 # I hate rockbox.org like dirs personally 18.13.16 # IIRC rbutil uses rockbox.org 18.14.07 # $(HOME)/.config/rockbox will follow spreading rule from freedesktop.org 18.15.04 # I'd prefer that too 18.15.11 # I'd make it compile-time settable. This is going to vary I suspect 18.15.31 # gevaerts: $HOME won't be compile time settable though 18.15.50 # I don't know... 18.16.10 # unless you like single user apps? 18.16.13 # I mean, I'm not sure if e.g. android settings directories map to this model very well 18.17.45 # New commit by 03alle (r27311): Fix a typo and clarify when bookmarks are autocreated 18.19.43 # r27311 build result: All green 18.20.49 # New commit by 03wodz (r27312): HD200 - add remote keymap 18.21.18 # So basicaly we have MPIO remote working :-) 18.22.42 # r27312 build result: All green 18.23.57 Join AzureWurk [0] (opera@c-24-21-44-114.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 18.24.48 Join rado1 [0] (~jon@66-214-153-109.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) 18.25.20 # gevaerts: Is there final agreement to remove keywords property (and $id: line)? 18.25.53 Join Luca_S [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 18.26.03 # hello 18.27.02 Join clochette [0] (~clochette@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) 18.28.14 Join Drise [0] (~drise13@user-24-214-34-2.knology.net) 18.29.31 Quit clochette (Client Quit) 18.31.34 # Just curious, does anyone know how far along the USB code for the Sansa Fuze v2 is? 18.34.47 # yes, initial experiments have been done and we see the USB controller responds, but there's been no real data communication over USB yet. 18.35.05 # wodz: not sure 18.36.15 # And i know this is a long shot, but any time frame of completion? 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No functional changes. 19.05.38 # r27314 build result: All green 19.07.48 Quit Drise () 19.09.17 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-214-34-2.knology.net) 19.10.00 Part Drise 19.10.00 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-214-34-2.knology.net) 19.11.17 Part Drise 19.11.17 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-214-34-2.knology.net) 19.19.32 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 19.20.06 Join w1ll14m [0] (~w1ll14m@84-104-80-54.cable.quicknet.nl) 19.20.12 # wodz: I didn't see strong objections, but to be honest I didn't see strong reasons to remove them either 19.22.03 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2D64E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.22.43 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.24.02 Quit fml (Client Quit) 19.24.50 # I have a problem, I installed the rb bootloader on gigabeat s. after power off it's showing a picture that i need to restore the firmware 19.25.13 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.25.18 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 19.25.23 # and it keeps that way. I installed the bootloader once again, it booted rockbox just fine. But after a cold boot I get the restore firmware image again. Is this a known issue ? 19.27.07 # I don't know if this particular sequence is known, but I think we know that some gigabeats seem to be a lot more tricky to work with than others 19.28.48 # gevaerts: do you have some tests or maybe a workaround. in the past there was a trick with the partitions 19.29.28 # not really. I haven't looked at the S for a while. Other people might have hints though 19.29.36 # i haven't done that yet on this gigabeat. the previous one had it 19.30.04 # i see, i'll test that and after that i hope someone else has some ideas about this problem 19.30.07 # New commit by 03wodz (r27315): HD200 - turn off charging IC by default 19.30.12 # New commit by 03wodz (r27316): HD200 - add support for remote in bootloader 19.30.25 # the partition table change was needed to make linux see the partitions, but these days the code masks those bits on the fly 19.30.28 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.31.11 # well that is the only change i can think of that is different between the 2 i have 19.31.46 # r27315 build result: All green 19.33.30 # r27316 build result: All green 19.33.33 # good 19.35.56 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.38.17 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 19.38.40 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.40.03 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.44.03 Part Drise 19.44.03 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-214-34-2.knology.net) 19.45.47 Join jennifur [0] (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 19.47.36 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 19.47.37 # w1ll14m: have you installed the single boot or dual boot bootloader? 19.48.11 # it's a known issue that some players (with a newer firmware iirc) refuse to boot the single boot bootloader. 19.49.53 # single 19.50.04 # from what i can tell, i tried it again 19.50.19 # try installing the dual boot bootloader. I also have a player that is affected. 19.50.29 # had bootloader working, mounted the 1st partition (aka nk.bin partition) and it wasn't there 19.50.35 # took me a while to figure that it's working with dual boot but not single boot 19.50.48 # bluebrother: thanks, i'll try that now 19.55.29 Join Lear [0] (chatzilla@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.57.12 # Anyone else having problem with buildzip after updating today? 19.57.23 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.57.29 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797C839.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.57.53 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 19.58.46 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.241) 19.58.49 # What kind of problem? make zip and make fullzip still seems to work fine here 19.59.20 # I get this error: "0: No such file or directory at /cygdrive/d/Source/C/Rockbox/rockbox/tools/buildzip.pl line 477" 20.01.01 # Hm, r27310 did change that file... 20.01.17 # And added the failing line. 20.01.45 # bluebrother: great, it seems to be working! 20.02.58 Quit jennifur (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.03.32 # make fullinstall isn't installing properly either. i do make fullinstall PREFIX=dist and doesn't put it in dist/.rockbox 20.04.25 # Ah, $install is initialized to 0, but when running make zip, --install isn't specified on the command line, so $install remains 0. 20.05.11 # w1ll14m: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9778 is the tracker entry for the issue 20.06.01 # Seems like $samedir should be true if $install is 0... 20.07.19 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-67-57-37.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.07.44 # bluebrother: really strange problems there.... 20.07.59 # is there a way to detect firmware 1.2 ? 20.08.13 # E.g., like this: http://pastie.org/1033050 20.08.58 # bluebrother: my old one still boots, so i can do some tests as that one is for parts now.... ribbon cable is damaged so it does not get enough power to run the device 20.09.14 # but when i apply 5 volts to the battery connector it boots 20.14.52 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 20.15.14 # New commit by 03learman (r27317): Add a check for '' not being set. make zip doesn't work for me without it. Perhaps only a problem on Cygwin? 20.15.17 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.16.52 # r27317 build result: All green 20.17.12 # w1ll14m: sorry, no idea what exactly to do about the issue. I'd like to get that fixed, but there is simply way to much on my todo list to even think about looking into that (and getting to know the code for that) 20.19.29 # bluebrother: ic 20.19.30 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 20.21.02 Join captainewklll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 20.21.46 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-89-160-72-125.cust.bredband2.com) 20.26.57 # something is screwed up. I defined HAVE_HEADPHONE_DETECTION in config file, defined headphones_inserted() function that just returns false, changed setting in Settings->Playback Settings and nothing happened 20.28.24 # if it always returns false, then it won't pause, no 20.28.30 # it pauses when the headphones are unplugged 20.28.39 # the state has to *change* for it to do anything 20.28.48 # ok 20.28.49 # if it always returns false it will think they are unplugged from poweron 20.31.44 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.33.21 # ok it works 20.38.25 Join Buschel [0] (~~andree@p54A3D59C.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.39.33 Quit n17ikh () 20.46.19 # saratoga/mt: is there an aac-file that I use to test raac? 20.46.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.46.43 # "can use to test", of course 20.47.41 # Buschel: Those are the only ones I know of : http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/real/AC-raac/ 20.48.42 # perfect, thanks 20.48.58 # you're welcome 20.56.22 # Hmm 20.56.55 # I've got the built-in font loading and working fine in the theme editor, but for some reason every other font I'm trying to load is getting horribly misread 21.04.48 Part watto 21.06.15 Join jennifur [0] (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 21.09.20 Join detaos [0] (~quassel@ip72-218-104-242.hr.hr.cox.net) 21.09.22 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939]) 21.19.13 # New commit by 03bieber (r27318): Theme Editor: Rockbox FNT files now supported. Theme editor will currently load fonts from the current project directory, or use the built-in font if ... 21.19.17 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.19.39 # bieber: got it working? Just wanted to ask about it ;-) 21.19.46 # Yeah 21.19.53 # nice 21.20.13 # For some reason, I replaced readRawData() calls with for-loops that manually copied the data, and it worked flawlessly 21.20.33 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 21.20.56 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27319): Integrate FS#11445 to raac. In addition remove faad specific pcm conversion and use rockbox' optimized dsp routines. On a 192kbps file and PP5022 the ... 21.21.14 # r27318 build result: All green 21.22.31 # wodz: not sure if you already found your answer, but the pitchscreen is also accessible through the WPS context menu (at least on targets that don't have access through a button, not sure if the latter still have the item) 21.22.56 # r27319 build result: All green 21.23.04 # bieber: where are the fonts searched? I've opened a theme (Pen&Paper for Gigabeat) and while it does render a font it seems to be the wrong one. My guess is that the font in the cfg isn't found -- /.rockbox/fonts is likely to be not present on my machine. At least on that location ;-) 21.23.15 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27320): Remove unneeded libfaad files from SOURCE. 21.23.39 # At the moment it only gets fonts from the project's /fonts directory, otherwise it uses the built-in font 21.24.21 # I'm going to add a setting for a directory you can add that it will automatically search for fonts before defaulting to the built-in 21.24.45 # ok. 21.24.50 # That'll be the next commit, this one was just getting it to render correctly 21.24.50 # r27320 build result: All green 21.25.25 # I'm thinking I'll add a button to automatically download and extract the font pack, as well 21.25.44 # might make sense, yes. 21.26.28 # Since the themes don't ship with fonts they expect to be on the device already, having the font pack will pretty much be a necessity if you want things to render correctly 21.27.30 # Ohh, and I forgot to have the screen load the theme default screen on initialization 21.30.20 # pixelma: yes I figured this out already 21.32.13 # New commit by 03bieber (r27321): Theme Editor: Default theme font is now correctly loaded 21.32.29 Part godzirra 21.33.56 # r27321 build result: All green 21.36.15 # MPIO remote handling is plain stupid. 21.37.46 # it changes reading of two ADC channels but in the way that there is no way to distiguish if remote is present 21.39.29 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 21.43.46 # bieber: great work! I've updated the windows binaries for the theme editor svn builds. 21.43.56 # Thanks 21.44.53 # bluebrother: I thought I read you were trying to compile the theme editor on MacOS 21.45.16 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.45.47 # pixelma: yes, I wanted to adjust the Makefile for that (building on OS X works fine by itself, but only for Intel binaries. Need to do the same adjustments as Rockbox Utility needs for the libs) 21.47.02 # if you get a universal binary going, I'll gladly test on MacOS 10.4 PPC :) 21.47.14 Part Drise 21.47.14 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-214-34-2.knology.net) 21.47.48 # sure. I wanted to have that done already some days ago, but well, there's always this thing called time getting in the way :/ 21.48.09 # will notify you when I've got a binary online 21.48.43 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.54.36 Quit BSOD90 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.00.57 Join BSOD90 [0] (~bsod@v35177.1blu.de) 22.02.28 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.03.47 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.05.21 Quit p3tur (Remote host closed the connection) 22.11.27 Join petur_ [0] (~peter@d54C6FA7C.access.telenet.be) 22.12.04 Nick petur_ is now known as p3tur (~peter@d54C6FA7C.access.telenet.be) 22.12.09 Nick p3tur is now known as Guest97135 (~peter@d54C6FA7C.access.telenet.be) 22.16.03 # bieber: is libskin_parser used from somewhere else than the theme editor right now? 22.16.45 # I'm not sure. I know JdGordon has been working on integrating it into RB, but I don't know if he's linking to that code or just copying it elsewhere 22.17.19 # Is it giving you problems on OSX? Last time I got someone to compile it on a Mac, I had to make a new source tree with all that stuff in the project directory to get it to compile right for them 22.17.45 Quit Guest97135 (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 22.17.50 # I've completely replaced the Makefile, and for simplicity I've started with the one from mkamsboot. However, that names some passed values slightly different (though I'd prefer to keep the new names to make it more consistent) 22.18.21 # I've got it building on OS X right now (at least libskin_parser), let's see if it still works on Linux :) 22.19.03 # (found even a nicer way to handle that lipo stuff, might be worth integrating in the other Makefiles later) 22.19.19 # lipo? 22.20.17 # an OS X tool to create fat libraries. 22.20.31 # Ah 22.20.37 # * Torne groans 22.20.52 # according to the man page it's even "create or operate on universal files" 22.21.07 # yes, that universal binary thing is really annoying. At least when creating them :) 22.23.29 # New commit by 03bieber (r27322): Theme Editor: Added font directory option in preferences dialog, renderer will now search that directory for fonts if they're not found in the project ... 22.23.48 # Heh, I can imagine 22.24.58 # hmm. Now it builds but fails to link :/ 22.25.52 # seems I missed a file in the ar file. Woops. 22.26.43 # r27322 build result: All green 22.27.20 # yay! Works :) 22.27.28 # Awesome :) 22.27.37 # now for the test on Linux ... 22.32.35 # nice, it worked out of the box :) 22.36.32 # hmm, seems I now understand why JdGordon1 called it BUILDDIR instead of TARGET_DIR 22.37.24 # looks like this needs some more refinements. 22.37.26 # Oh? 22.38.58 # BUILDDIR is used for Rockbox. However, mkamsboot and the other patchers use TARGET_DIR and construct their own build dir from that. 22.39.05 # that's a bit nasty. 22.39.23 # Ah 22.40.09 # let's see if there is an easy way to improve that. 22.40.42 # the problem with BUILDDIR is that we need to use two build directories on OS X because we need to compile two times 22.41.29 # Wait, you can't compile a universal binary all at once? 22.42.07 # not if you build a library. At least I haven't figured how -- the problem seems to be when creating the archive files 22.42.35 # you basically build an .a for ppc, one for i386, and then use lipo to create a universal library from that. 22.42.46 # Oh wow 22.44.17 # * bluebrother should figure if there's a simpler solution for that 22.44.48 # when building the theme editor however you can use gcc -arch i386 -arch ppc and it "just works". 22.46.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.51.18 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 22.57.17 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 22.59.05 Quit captainewklll (Quit: Page closed) 23.05.31 # hmm, my improved OSX library stuff has only one disadvantage: it will always build a universal library on OS X. Though I guess that should be fine, at least for now. 23.08.19 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r27323): Rework libskin_parser Makefile for OS X support. ... 23.09.55 # r27323 build result: All green 23.10.32 # stripwax: you there? 23.10.45 Quit dfkt_ (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 23.13.39 # Buschel - partially. what's up? 23.15.36 # I am struggling with trying to exchange libfaad's fft with your optimized one from codeclib 23.17.17 # bieber: any plans on the icon for the Theme Editor? If not I'll add it as application icon for Windows and OS X (have to figure how to create icns files first, but hey ... ;-) 23.21.02 # kugel: maybe RockboxAsAnApplication2010 could use some more detail in the "Port to a mobile device" section. I don't know if you already know enough about Android to flesh that out a bit, but maybe it would be useful if you could spend a few minutes on that during the next one or two weeks 23.21.37 # gevaerts: no, I don't know enough about it right now :) 23.21.43 # ok :) 23.22.03 # "likely an Android-based one" can be changed though 23.22.11 # * gevaerts *will* find something for kugel to do! 23.22.31 # Even if it's only changing two words! 23.29.24 Quit Unhelpful (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 23.29.39 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 23.30.15 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/detroitVI Sixth edition of 25 samples + 48 hours + detroit party (july 31) (maybe streamed online!)) 23.30.20 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.33.59 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.46.42 # pixelma: I've put an OS X binary of the Theme Editor online if you want to try it. Should run on 10.4ppc :) 23.46.56 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r27324): Add Info.plist and application icon to Theme Editor on OS X. 23.47.04 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.48.31 # hmm, why does viewvc try to display the icns file? My client says it's svn:mime-type is octet-stream :o 23.48.32 # bluebrother: The one that's in there now is my best go at an icon ;) Unless someone more artistically inclined wants to make a new one, I'm not planning on changing it 23.48.50 # r27324 build result: All green 23.49.15 # bieber: ok, I've already added it for OS X (application icons work a bit different there ... Windows is similar: it's different :) 23.51.03 # I wonder how difficult it would be to add a make target to build .deb and .rpm packages 23.51.29 # well, for rpm you won't use make. 23.51.50 # for an rpm you have to write a spec file, then run rpmbuild on that. This will build the package. 23.51.56 # Okay 23.52.08 # debs are just tar.gz archives, iirc? 23.52.19 # Along with a minfest file or something like that 23.52.22 # I've considered working on a spec for Rockbox Utility in the past but never got around. Didn't consider it too important. 23.52.44 # not sure which compression deb uses. But those package formats include various stuff these days. 23.53.09 # (pre/post install/uninstall scripts comes into my mind) 23.53.11 Part AzureWurk 23.53.44 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 23.55.15 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.58.59 # deb is an ar archive of metadata and the actual package data, the package data can be in a variety of compression formats