--- Log for 12.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 12 hours ago 00.02.09 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27394): Clean up libfaad's sbr-qmf code. Move array to correct #ifdef-path, introduce macro, beautify indentations. 00.02.51 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 00.03.50 # r27394 build result: All green 00.08.46 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.15.01 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 00.16.26 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 00.18.37 Quit aevin (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.21.35 # New commit by 03rob (r27395): D2: Fix another timing loop that broke when we switched to the EABI compiler, this time in the LCD driver. 00.23.06 # r27395 build result: All green 00.23.45 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.31.04 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.86) 00.35.21 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.37.33 # New commit by 03funman (r27396): strstr(): cosmetics ... 00.38.14 Join jkl [0] (~luebsj@cpe-74-69-41-86.rochester.res.rr.com) 00.39.00 # r27396 build result: All green 00.41.07 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 00.46.04 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.47.17 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.52.39 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 00.57.07 Join Midnight [0] (~Just@c-98-233-252-136.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 00.57.18 Nick Midnight is now known as NoRouteToHost (~Just@c-98-233-252-136.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 00.57.24 Nick NoRouteToHost is now known as NRTH (~Just@c-98-233-252-136.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 00.57.59 # wondering if anyone can give me some assistance here. I've got a Rockboxed e280 (v1) that refuses to boot without holding the REC button down. 01.00.25 # Rockbox also will not operate unless the rec button is being held 01.01.15 # in the rare times I can get the bootloader to properly boot into the original sansa firmware, it operates just fine in that mode. It's only when attempting to use Rockbox that I have errors 01.01.40 # Was running 3.5.1. Reinstalled the bootloader and installed 3.6 (stable) to see if it would operate properly. It does not. 01.01.45 # Wondering if anyone can help. 01.08.15 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.08.35 Quit JdGordon (Read error: No route to host) 01.24.33 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.36.29 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 01.40.16 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 01.40.34 Quit NRTH (Quit: Guess I have a paperweight now.) 01.47.48 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 01.52.04 Join JdGordon [0] (3a601b9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.96.27.158) 01.55.00 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 01.55.47 # funman: bor_ka: ( logs) re AMSv1 SD clock speed conversation. I believe from some tests that I ran that IDEclk is what is divided to produce mclk for the pl180 controller that is paired with the internal card. I used test_disk speed test with varying values for IDEclk and the results seemed to indicate that the speed on the internal varied with a direct relationship 01.57.42 # while the uSD was constant. I didn't look back too far to see the entire issue your conversation encompassed but I hope that info helps for now 01.58.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.59.52 # Sorry to disappear all of a sudded last month but my job situation has changed a bit and my spare time is a bit limited at this point ;/ 02.25.31 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.28.40 Part l0de 02.30.21 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@200.109.69.33) 02.30.21 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 02.30.21 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 02.52.02 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 03.12.38 Join evilnick- [0] (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e74:cee:395b:b5a6:f655) 03.14.04 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.14.04 Nick evilnick- is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e74:cee:395b:b5a6:f655) 03.31.38 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.52.26 Quit BHSPitLappy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.56.23 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 03.58.08 Quit whydoubt_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.58.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.02.36 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 04.04.06 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.11.23 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.11.25 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.11.27 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.11.27 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.11.43 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.11.45 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.12.38 Quit whydoubt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.13.54 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 04.17.12 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f5ad8.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.20.39 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.31.07 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.34.51 Quit jennifur (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.35.08 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.35.52 Join jennifur [0] (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 04.49.37 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.50.20 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.94) 04.52.25 # Any Nano owners (preferably with FM hardware), or with a current SVN Nano simulator interested in road testing/crtitique of a new(-ish) theme? 04.53.24 # S_a_i_n_t: Will it run on 1G? 04.53.40 # I have no idea if the subsequent models had the same size screen and such... 04.53.49 # Indeed it will. Wow, do you have a Nano1G? 04.54.11 # Very few seem to like the Nano, where it is my preferred target. 05.04.51 # Yep, I've had it for like four or five years now 05.05.03 # It's a little worse for wear, but it keeps chuggin' ;) 05.07.11 # the nano sucks :) 05.08.42 # * S_a_i_n_t slaps JdGordon 05.08.46 # (hard) 05.09.48 # bieber: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d0ee7c86.html 05.10.13 # Thanks, I'll take a look at it 05.10.23 # (.fms is a little buggy, but ti's a code thing, not a my code thing ;)) 05.10.38 # I still need to get around to updating to a Rockbox build that's younger than I am, so I'll give the theme a try when I do that 05.11.36 # * S_a_i_n_t fails to parse that. 05.11.49 # Unless you're a LOT younger than I thought ;) 05.12.51 # JdGordon: Can I force a font on the rec screen? Or does it just use userfont? 05.12.59 # userfont only 05.13.07 # :-/ 05.14.41 # S_a_i_n_t: Okay, so my build isn't quite _that_ old, but it's been a while ;) 05.16.36 # Hmmm, guess that's not *too* bad. I'll have to do the alignment with a conditional UI viewport. I can do that with the rec screen...yes? 05.16.41 # JdGordon: ^ 05.16.59 # yes 05.17.13 # the rec screen isnt very customisable yet.. only the sbs in it 05.17.43 # I noticed, this is the first theme I've bothered themeing the rec screen and fm screen. 05.18.15 # (I sincerely doubt they get used much on the Nano1G, and the 2G has neither) 05.20.44 # the trouble with the rec screen in this theme is that the font is quite large for a Nano theme (16pt) and not all of the items fit on screen so it ends (visually) at "Gain L: X.XdB" making it look like there is no "Gain R: " etc. 05.22.35 # So, I'll cut off the "Gain L: " completely with a UI viewport, and it will become apparent that the screen scrolls if the user cares to change the Gain value. 05.22.51 # (not ideal, but more aesthetically pleasig) 05.23.02 # *pleasing 05.26.36 # Yeah, I haven't ever used either of those screens 05.26.52 # RB supports FM accessories on the 1G nano now? 05.27.05 # Has for a LONG time. 05.27.10 # Oh, nice 05.27.31 # * S_a_i_n_t wonders what build bieber is running. 05.27.59 # Hmm, I think I'm gonna go fetch it and find out 05.28.32 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.29.29 # 090927 05.29.39 # WHOAH! 05.29.39 # Not as old as I thought, actually 05.29.49 # still, pretty damn old. 05.30.12 # It's basically an accessory in my car, so I just update it every couple year 05.31.05 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 05.34.19 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.35.08 # Hmmm...conditional UI viewport doesn't appear to be in the manual either. 05.35.13 # * S_a_i_n_t needs to make a list. 05.36.00 Quit joecool (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.36.30 Quit dionoea (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.36.34 Join evilnick- [0] (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e76:38be:321a:b5a6:f655) 05.36.55 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.37.13 Join joecool [0] (~joecool@no-sources/joecool) 05.37.54 Quit zu (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.38.12 # relative to %Vi: What does "If label is set this viewport can be selectivly used as the Info Viewport using the %%VI tag" mean? 05.38.32 # Is it meant to read "%?Vi"? 05.39.07 # Oh, wait...nope *facepalm* 05.39.13 # Just an extra % 05.40.07 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.40.07 Nick evilnick- is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e76:38be:321a:b5a6:f655) 05.41.49 # If I was to give someone my Wiki-Username, would they be able to give me a gentle reminder as to what my password might be? 05.42.24 # * S_a_i_n_t needs to fix up several errors in the CustomWPS page. 05.43.54 # I have actually been toying with the idea of suggesting that CustomWPS be removed from the wiki. 05.44.14 # Having two sources for WPS tags just leads to confusion, and miss-matches. 05.45.19 # If it were a complete list (which neither CustomWPS or the Manuals currently are) the Manul would be the idea place for these tags to reside IMO 05.45.20 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.49.43 # S_a_i_n_t: Looking good in the menus, I'll tell you about the WPS when it finishes committing the database :/ 05.50.02 # There isn't a script/program out there to build the RB database from a PC, is there? Because that would be really handy 05.50.28 # Awesome, obviously you've noticed my inspiration by now ;) 05.50.41 # Haha, that I have 05.50.55 # I think you could fool me with it, if I didn't already know 05.51.12 # I have done to several people :D 05.51.16 # hi all, i have a quick rb fuze v2 question please :-) 05.51.20 # Just wish I had album art, so I could see what it looks like with that 05.51.50 # lestatar: Ask away. 05.51.58 # Oh holy crap, you even got the conditional volume bar 05.52.09 # thanks....will rb playlists "know" if a song is deleted from the device? 05.52.46 # lestatar: Not entirely, the won't *know it's missing, but it will skip it if it can't locate the file. 05.52.59 # i see...thanks...:-) 05.53.33 # any chance for some kind of playlists update function to detect and remove missing song entries? or is this in the works since you guys think of everything :-D 05.53.42 Quit togetic (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0) 05.54.19 # I don't think so, no. It's fairly trivial to just recreate the playlist after the files have been removed. 05.54.29 # S_a_i_n_t: IMO the manual is the wrong place for the wps definition :) now with the theme editor is should be included in that more than anything 05.54.36 # or a seperate pdf or something 05.54.42 # it really has no place in the manual 05.54.57 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 05.55.04 # Hmmm...well, do you agree it's a PITA having multiple sources? 05.55.15 # I'm still finding old syntax in CustomWPS 05.55.44 # I'll definitely agree with that one 05.55.57 # saint, i am not sure i follow...sorry to be dense...i am not referring to the dynamic playlist, but ones i have established and saved on the device. 05.56.24 # So am I, it is *very* trivial to make a new playlist on the device. 05.56.25 # if i delete a song from my.m3u8 i understand it will skip when the playlist is playing again.. 05.56.47 # ah, is ee.. 05.56.50 # i see 05.57.08 # i am sorry...my intention is simply to try and keep the playlists clean... 05.57.23 # i think i understand what you mean tho...thank you :-D 05.57.38 # cheers 05.58.13 # S_a_i_n_t: Oh I agree that 2 places is just bad, and alot of the problem with the manual is that TeX is painful and hard to make sure it worked 05.58.16 # The Manual explainsplaylist creation quite well 05.58.37 # If we had a script to egenerate the TeX from a .txt file I would happily add tags to that 05.58.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.58.39 # will def re-read...appreciate it. 05.58.40 # the wiki is eaier 05.58.59 # JdGordon: I'm going through now and making a list tags missing from the manual. 05.59.29 Quit lestatar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.59.31 # I think if it came to a vote, that the manual would win out as being the "best/official source of information" 05.59.48 # IMO, the tags should be there...but, that's just me. 06.00.01 # it should only be in one place though, that I agree on. 06.01.19 # Use the the tag table in eiher parser to check for missing tags 06.01.28 # apparently some might be missing in the wiki page also 06.01.35 # I kno what's missing. 06.01.48 # and yeah, some are missing in the wiki 06.02.38 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 06.03.26 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 06.07.15 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.94) 06.08.10 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.11.24 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 06.12.55 # JdGordon: I implemented the touch area rendering in my last commit 06.13.03 # I'm going to make them clickable now 06.14.35 # coolies :) 06.14.55 # Are you planning on adding help for the individual tags? 06.15.59 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 06.17.11 # if you are then we should use that as *the* place for skin format stuff... and make that easy to edit 06.17.16 # i.e not TeX :) 06.21.39 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.21.55 Quit bieber (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.21.57 Nick jennifur is now known as bunnyboi (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.22.08 # <[Saint]> That assumes that anyone anting to update/create a skin will be using the editor, which...I doubt will happen. 06.22.27 # <[Saint]> I see the editor as more of a learning tool, than something people will use constantly. 06.22.59 # <[Saint]> I don't want to argue the fact, but I think the manual is the correct place for the skin tags. 06.23.29 # JdGordon: My plan is to add just a brief description of each tag. Then when you type a %, you'll get an intelli-sense style popup that shows you tags along with said brief description 06.23.45 Join panni__ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 06.23.46 Nick bieber_ is now known as bieber (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.24.19 Quit gevaerts (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.24.31 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 06.24.52 Quit amiconn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.24.59 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 06.25.01 # Once I've got clickable touch areas down I should be pretty much done with rendering aside from bug fixes, so next week I want to start out with some usability stuff, especially handling projects and cfg files 06.25.56 # Then I can start working on more useful editing tools. I'm debating whether to do tag-completion or drag/drop viewports and images first 06.27.02 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.27.18 # we could generate a pdf and the highlight help from a single file :) 06.27.57 Quit r0b- (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.28.34 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm...how would you describe the function of %ax without it reading like a book? 06.28.53 # <[Saint]> I have "When prepended to a viewport declaration, the viewports coordinates and alignment will be mirrored if the user language is changed to an RTL language.", but it doesn't seem right. 06.29.22 # %ax tells the next ta to follow the language direction. not all tags support this. 06.30.31 # <[Saint]> but, that *really* doesn't describe what it actually does. 06.30.44 # <[Saint]> same as the current description in CustomWPS 06.30.48 # it doesnt actually do anthing by itself though 06.31.18 # <[Saint]> errr....huh? 06.31.42 # %ax is useless by itself 06.32.07 # what the tag does is tell the next one to not ignore the langauuge direction 06.32.09 # <[Saint]> And it's not "not all tags support this", it's "only 3 tags support this", so I actually listed the ones that do. 06.32.53 # <[Saint]> It does a little more than that, it completely mirrors the viewport coordinates if the lang is RTL 06.33.28 # <[Saint]> And, I think it is important to describe that aspect of it. 06.33.44 # yes, as part of the %V help text 06.35.51 # <[Saint]> I don't really thing that's the right place for it, it needs to be with the alignment tags. 06.36.01 # <[Saint]> as, that's what it is (IMO) 06.41.08 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.44.20 # JdGordon: I was trying to test your new parser, but it won't build 06.44.21 # not really :) 06.44.31 # dont build plugins 06.44.38 # or other errors? 06.45.38 # plugin error (redefinition of ‘struct line’) and several "implicit declaration of function" 06.45.51 # yeah just do make bin 06.45.54 # and ignore the warnings 06.46.09 # ok 06.46.22 # it doesnt touch the plugin api or codec api so you can safely run it with svn plugins/codecs 06.47.31 # %Vp wont work, so dont try a theme with that 06.47.44 # aythign else which doesnt work should just not draw 06.48.29 Quit dionoea (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.48.33 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 06.51.08 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: BTW, I added FS#11471 %tm refuses to update 06.51.15 # <[Saint]> jsyk ;) 06.51.52 # jsyk? 06.52.00 # and yes I saw it 06.52.28 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.52.49 # <[Saint]> just-so-you-know 06.53.02 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 06.58.36 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.00.44 Quit zu (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.01.06 # <[Saint]> bieber; Any suggestions for said theme? 07.01.14 # <[Saint]> Anything you'd do differently? 07.01.27 # Hmm 07.01.29 Quit dionoea (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.01.43 # iirc, the text had one line off-center without album art 07.01.47 # copy the OF less :D 07.01.54 # I think the OF had them both centered, but I could be remembering wrong 07.02.25 # Otherwise, I was pretty darn impressed. Especially with the volume changing bar :) 07.02.39 # <[Saint]> Aha, seems like a mistake on my part. It *should* be centered when no AA is present. 07.02.47 # Which reminds me, I need to fix up %pv in the Theme Editor so that kind of bar will render correctly 07.03.15 # Except that I don't think pv is actually the tag I'm thinking of. I mean the battery level tag :P 07.03.44 # <[Saint]> thanks, the volume bar is pretty awesome. The code shows how I did it though. A *very* dodgy way, to get around viewports not being cleared properly. 07.04.12 # <[Saint]> (something I hope the new parser will fix) 07.05.28 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 07.05.34 # Hmm, I'm guessing that's why in the theme editor it shows the volume level in text above the bar? 07.05.40 # I haven't looked at the code at all yet 07.06.29 # <[Saint]> no, that's an "optional extra"...it's not actually supposed to be defined by default, another catch. 07.06.47 # <[Saint]> Alignment tags are all correct though, so...dunno what you were seeing. 07.06.54 # <[Saint]> Works properly in the sim. 07.09.11 # Oh, text is centered 07.09.21 # It's just the numbers at the top I was thinking of, and that does look better to the left 07.09.25 # <[Saint]> *phew* ;) 07.09.54 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 07.10.14 # <[Saint]> the volume in dB isn't supposed to be there actually, well it is, but only if you uncomment it yourself. I must have missed it. 07.11.19 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm...it *is* commented out, what "numbers" are you talking about? 07.11.21 # That was in the theme editor, not on my iPod 07.11.41 # And it's probably just because of the way I'm rendering volume level stuff 07.11.47 # <[Saint]> then, it appears that the theme editor is ignoring a commented line. 07.11.48 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.12.25 # <[Saint]> line 246 in the wps handles that volume indicator, and, it's definitely commented out. 07.12.27 # <[Saint]> odd. 07.14.00 # <[Saint]> It's *very* easy to find what you're looking for in my code. 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I just saw the field to adjust width and height by number but didn't search for too long last week 07.40.53 # No, right now your options are either set width/height in the device config panel, use a backdrop in your cfg file, or set #screenwidth and #screenheight keys in the cfg file 07.41.08 # A target database is on my to-do list 07.41.59 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-199-132.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 07.42.17 # ah nice, that would have been my suggestion if you didn't plan it anyway- not everyone knows the screen size of his target :) 07.42.36 # Heck, I sure don't 07.42.49 Quit rvvs89 (*.net *.split) 07.42.49 Quit amiconn (*.net *.split) 07.42.49 Quit simabeis (*.net *.split) 07.42.49 Quit elcan (*.net *.split) 07.42.56 # I want a db to store screen size, remote size, and probably some other settings that I'll think of later 07.44.17 # oh, and what I also didn't find was a way to set bit depth which could be important for viewport parameters and in cfg files but I guess that'll come too 07.45.24 # At the moment, it's not doing any kind of enforcement of bit depth: color parameters will accept any of the possible formats and adapt accordingly 07.46.03 # I could add some check and a warning if you use a bitmap/parameter for the wrong bit depth, though 07.46.49 Quit jkl (*.net *.split) 07.46.49 Quit M3DLG (*.net *.split) 07.46.50 Quit ranma (*.net *.split) 07.46.50 Quit YPSY (*.net *.split) 07.46.50 Quit Bagder (*.net *.split) 07.47.25 # you should be fine with any bitmap on any target, it'll just scaled down to the target's bit depth (and maybe look different to what you would like it to look) 07.47.55 # but it has an influence on the parameters anc available settings 07.48.07 # and too 07.49.01 # * [Saint] simply can't wait until he can nest conditionals with the new skin parser...that'll be so awesome. 07.49.31 # <[Saint]> s/conditionals/sublines/ 07.49.34 # <[Saint]> dammit. 07.50.46 # so go test my patch :) 07.50.57 # pixelma: Will do 07.51.20 # JdGordon or [Saint]: When you use pv like a progress bar, what are its min/max values? 07.51.38 # target dependant 07.51.47 # <[Saint]> min/max volume for the target. 07.51.55 # Aw shucks 07.51.56 # it is probbly good enough if you just do between 0 and 100 07.52.05 # or -100 and 0 07.52.11 # or even -50 and 6 07.52.51 # <[Saint]> no, it needs to be able to do 0, and greater than 0 as distinct states also. 07.53.01 # I guess I just found another thing to add to the target db 07.53.12 # <[Saint]> oh, wait...as the bar...oops. 07.53.15 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 07.53.32 # Yeah, as the bar I guess I'll do -50 to 6 for now, when I get the target DB up it'll be properly dependent 07.54.09 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 07.54.43 # <[Saint]> Ah, right. 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09.05.10 # pixelma: AlexP: how do ou guys feel about generating the skin tag info from a plain text file? and then eventually taking it out of the manual and putting it more in the theme editor where it really belongs? 09.05.27 # assuming that we want everyone to use that when making themes 09.20.34 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.20.51 # sounds like a good idea to generate it, not sure about taking them out of the manual 09.21.31 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.22.12 # that way we can get a nice consistant format for all the tags, the tales can be nicely generated 09.22.19 # and I dont have to fiddle with TeX :D 09.23.10 # I don't understand what you find so hard about it as you can just copy ad past from the existent bits usually 09.23.39 # and if we can autogenerate them, you don't have to at all 09.35.52 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.36.38 Join rvvs89 [0] (robotnik@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 09.40.24 Join jkl [0] (~luebsj@cpe-74-69-41-86.rochester.res.rr.com) 09.43.59 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 09.43.59 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 09.45.58 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCBECF.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.48.39 Join ranma [0] (ranma@yumi.tdiedrich.de) 09.48.39 Join YPSY [0] (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 09.48.39 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.49.27 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.55.42 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Page closed) 09.58.27 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 09.58.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.10.27 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-43-248.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 10.15.08 Nick [Saint] is now known as S_a_i_n_t (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.94) 10.23.17 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 10.24.12 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 10.28.42 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Nice Scotty, now beam my clothes up too!) 10.35.19 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-159-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.35.31 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 10.41.33 Join bor_ka [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 10.44.27 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.49.59 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.55.03 Join lmjubuntu [0] (~lmjubuntu@58.195.42.183) 11.09.42 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 11.10.37 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.16.02 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.19.38 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.22.30 Join mt2 [0] (~chatzilla@41.233.141.106) 11.23.21 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 11.26.24 Quit jkl (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.26.48 # I think the problem with the simulator audio output when I play wma pro files (or even wav files at 48K sampling rate) is how the dsp resampling is done 11.28.06 # mc2739: the patch applied for you? 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13.26.53 # popped up whilst beilding for Nano2G 13.26.58 # run it and find out 13.27.00 # *building even 13.27.28 # roughly the same as "tr '\012' ':' /cygdrive/c/Cygwin/Rockbox_Source/rockbox/nano2g/apps/features > /cygdrive/c/Cygwin/Rockbox_Source/rockbox/nano2g 13.27.38 # haha 13.28.38 # * gevaerts suspects that S_a_i_n_t cut that off though 13.29.23 # The difference is that the first one doesn't leave a : at the end 13.29.30 # cut what off...? 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That line popped up whilst compiling a Nano2G build. 13.29.58 # There's something after that last nano2g 13.30.10 # What does this mean : " Error while mapping shared library sections: 13.30.11 # `simdisk/_temp_codec0.dll': not in executable format: File truncated" ? 13.54.02 # http://www.pastie.org/1040764 -- I don't get this 13.58.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.17 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 13.59.44 Quit mitk (Quit: Leaving) 14.00.38 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 14.02.23 # JdGordon: built fine with make bin - will post results to FS after I get a chance to test 14.02.40 # ok cool 14.02.48 # I'm working on making it harder to maintain :p 14.04.47 Join bor_ka [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 14.06.57 Quit bor_ka (Client Quit) 14.07.23 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 14.26.52 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 14.28.49 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 14.29.22 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 14.31.04 # I don't know what the sim has against libwmapro .. when I removed the floating point stuff, the library now fails to be loaded when the codec runs. (specifically at dlopen in uisimulator/common/io.c) 14.32.04 # does it say why? 14.34.26 # The only output I get is the one just before the pastie link 14.34.51 # ~ 1 hour ago 14.37.22 # I brick my clipv2 14.37.22 # cronology: 14.37.22 # 1. download and patch OF 14.37.22 DBUG Enqueued KICK Orc 14.37.22 # 2. copy .rockbox and patched OF on player 14.37.22 # 3. safelly remove and unpug 14.37.23 *** Alert Mode level 1 14.37.23 # 4. brick 14.38.01 # check SansaAMS page on the wiki, especially 'specific problems' 14.38.14 Join teru [0] (~teru@M016207.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.38.17 # your player isn't bricked, only crashed in a state where it can't be powered off 14.39.29 # clip don't find when connected pc 14.40.10 # It's find only without nandflash 14.40.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#Specific_problems 14.40.54 # I can't find two open solder pads (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick). 14.41.06 # Clip+/Clipv2/Fuzev2: The players might crash in a state where hardware power off is not possible. You have to wait for the battery to discharge fully, it might take up to 3 days. 14.41.44 # You have to wait for the battery to discharge fully, it might take up to 3 days 14.41.46 # ? 14.42.15 # I resold battery 14.42.27 # no happens 14.42.38 # you have disconnected, and then resoldered the battery? 14.42.43 # yes 14.42.55 # then yes it might be bricked 14.43.10 # ((( 14.43.10 # can you take picture of the PCB ? 14.43.21 # yes 14.43.48 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.43.53 # If you show me the PCB perhaps I can point you to possible solder pads 14.47.24 *** Alert Mode OFF 14.53.41 # funman: pong? 14.54.23 # JdGordon: it was about wpsdebug: i removed the option from DEBUG builds and only left it in the sim (r27389) 14.54.38 # you bastard! 14.54.53 # no worries, I'm removing all that wps debug code from the main build anyway 14.56.59 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 14.59.35 Quit Orc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.59.37 Join evilnick- [0] (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e74:186b:d5a:b5a6:f655) 15.01.15 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.01.15 Nick evilnick- is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e74:186b:d5a:b5a6:f655) 15.06.20 # I was wrong .. the segfault happens on hdr->entry_point() 15.07.24 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.07.30 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 15.07.53 # do you have any open() or malloc()'s which arnt going through the plugin api? 15.09.14 # There's a malloc, but it's been there with the floating point code and it was working 15.09.16 # har du kallare inne än ute?! 15.09.33 # sorry, wrong window. Man is this a bad day for me on irc... 15.09.41 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.15.44 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.20.29 # JdGordon: Yeah the failure seems to be due to malloc, which is extremely weird given that I've been debugging for well over a month now with it executing properly ! 15.20.54 # :( at least you know what it is now 15.22.31 # yeah, thanks for the pointer btw :) 15.28.17 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 15.38.04 # still not working :( 15.38.24 # join the club :( 15.38.29 # stupid progressbar! 15.38.43 # New commit by 03teru (r27399): text_viewer: remove unneeded code. ... 15.39.40 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 15.40.48 # r27399 build result: All green 15.42.23 # mt2: does it happen with svn ? (i'm building a sim right now to test) 15.43.22 # funman: no 15.43.27 # svn works for me 15.43.39 # have to leave now, bbl 15.46.19 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 15.46.59 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.47.49 Quit mt2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.48.47 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-182-66-254.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.50.05 Join M4dison [0] (~kukkk@adsl-ull-126-73.49-151.net24.it) 15.52.50 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.53.29 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.53.34 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-210-233-13.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 15.53.44 # funman: any reason you picked the uclibc strstr? 15.54.13 # is lpgl 2.1 more presmissive w.r.t. to the gplv3 problem than gpl v2-only? 15.54.24 # kugel: no, i just looked at this one and saw that it was lgpl 15.54.31 # yeah 15.54.47 # how? 15.55.02 # you can link it to proprietary code so it has to be more permissive 15.55.16 # btw: there's a bsd licensed (and optimized one) in newlib 15.55.35 # if you want to use this one, go for it 15.55.52 # funman: can you explain? it is more permissive for proprietary code, but does it solve the gplv3 problem 15.56.17 # honestly i don't know and i don't want to dive into the gpl stuff again at this time 15.56.38 # i suppose it does solve it, but didn't proof check it 15.56.45 # your quick commit suggests you have an idea about it 15.58.19 # http://gplv3.fsf.org/dd3-faq says it's ok 15.58.47 # GPLv2-only isn't compatible but LGPLv2.1-only is 15.58.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.59.23 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@2001:0:4137:9e74:0:ee6f:beb1:ba3d) 15.59.44 # ah, that faq also shows that you can use gpl v2 or later under gplv3 projects (which I tried to make clear with my mails to that topic) 16.00.03 # LGPL2.1 section 3 is what's relevant 16.00.35 # funman: but only because LGPL allows you to relicense to GPL IIUC 16.01.40 # hm indeed, LGPLv2.1-only can be upgrade to 'GPLv2 or any later version' 16.01.52 # My reading of that is that you can't convert LGPL2.1 to "GPLv2 or later", but you convert it to GPLv2 or later (pick one). 16.03.04 # That fsf page seems to use a slightly less pedantic reading 16.03.27 # but the or later bit isn't really an extra license, it's only dual licensing, isn't it? 16.03.58 # True 16.04.19 # I could distribute 3 copies, 1 under the original lgpl; one gplv2 and one gplv3, which is effictively gplv2 or later 16.04.39 # While you might not be able to make it "GPLv2 or later", you can make it "GPLv2 or GPLv3 or GPlv4 or..." 16.04.57 # which is the same thing, so that faq page is right 16.06.32 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 16.07.35 # so, lpgl does solve it. it also shows that it was ok for the theme editor to use gplv3 code (IFF it was released under gplv3) since the rockbox code it uses is v2 or later 16.08.47 # yes, but we'd have to release v3+ binaries, which (I think) needs more discussion 16.09.28 # Except that I think we have some more v2 only bits, although possibly not used by the theme editor, so that might be OK 16.09.42 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.09.42 # * gevaerts should investigate the one case he knows about 16.10.07 # the theme editor only uses the skin_parser lib so far I think which is newly written (and should be v2 or later, but I haven't looked) 16.11.26 # I think legally we're fine, and the theme editor isn't likely to be reused by other projects so that wouldn't be a problem either. 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Themes, fm presets, fonts, ... 19.07.53 # no, about the non-code stuff that comes with rockbox 19.08.22 # yeah then I agree with share 19.08.28 # but local is bad? 19.08.31 # That's the easy bit though 19.08.36 Part Bowbles 19.08.43 # well, /usr/local is standard configure prefix 19.08.47 # but all distros use /usr 19.08.48 # so far all programs I compiled myself defaulted to /usr/local 19.09.04 # the distros can use something different if they like 19.09.06 # yes, that's how it tends to work 19.09.33 # The tricky bit is what we're talking about. How to support those files in both */share and $HOME/.RaaA (or however it's called) 19.09.58 # I would it should look for files through a $PATH approach 19.10.02 # would say 19.10.16 # I would assume a program works like that 19.10.46 # so first in the user's dir and then in the global dir etc 19.12.06 # Actually, that bit could be easy too 19.12.28 # As soon as files end up in settings, they seem to be using absolute paths 19.13.04 # The hardest problem is that rockbox is built to show the file browser when you go to e.g. theme settings, and the file browser isn't made to mix directories 19.13.23 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.14.08 # I think in the end we want a unionfs-style solution, but I'm not at all sure if that's simple enough to fit in this project 19.14.51 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 19.15.01 # right, the priority must be to get something in that works, then polish it later 19.16.06 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.16.19 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 19.16.49 # kugel: so your proposal is something like get_config_directory(*buf, "fonts") ? (with some more parameters probably) 19.17.03 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 19.17.16 # yea 19.17.19 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 19.17.33 # except "font" is "/usr/local/share/rockbox/fonts" 19.18.37 # Is that needed? Can't the "/usr/local/share/rockbox" be added inside the function? 19.19.21 # The way I see it, the first thing that function has to do is cut off the last component anyway to see if it exists in the user preferences directory 19.19.48 # well, it's a) less changes because everywhere where rockbox asks for a path it passes the absolute one already, and b) for on target builds the passed path is returned directly 19.20.04 # right 19.20.27 # or the call is magicked away by a macro 19.21.24 Join w1ll14m [0] (~w1ll14m@84-104-80-54.cable.quicknet.nl) 19.21.36 # OK, That would (a) work, (b) be extensible later on to return a unionfs mountpoint, (c) be simple. It might not be perfect from a user-friendlyness point of view, but that can be done later 19.21.48 # I think either would work fine, but yours a bit cheaper (the stripping of isn't needed) 19.22.17 # I think both are fine 19.22.57 # should be interchangeable if someone complains 19.23.36 # Are you blocked on this? If you can wait a bit for the final decision, maybe it would be good to ask on the ML 19.23.58 # It will end up being something very much like this anyway I expect 19.24.14 # not directly, I could get more familiar with android development in the meantime 19.24.25 # * gevaerts has to go for a bit now. 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Otherwise, the OF will keep cluttering up your filesystem whenever you transfer stuff 20.59.51 # ...at least, that's how it works on my Fuze 21.00.05 # * Dhraakellian doesn't recall whether the ClipV1 has rockbox USB 21.00.25 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@g231232082.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.00.29 # sort of, as long as you boot it with Rb before plugging in 21.00.45 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 21.00.49 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@g231232082.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.00.53 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.00.53 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.01.09 # but if you never use the OF (or never use MTP mode in the OF), all the ##DIR#s should be safe to remove 21.01.29 # but they'll just reappear the next time you boot to the OF, afaict 21.02.01 # this is one reason for me why Rockbox USB on the Fuze was a very, very welcome improvement 21.02.58 # pixelma as now, for the yes&no, I'm building a patch to enable the power key (the only phisical key for onda vx777) to say yes 21.03.15 # not as welcome as the enabling of Rockbox USB on the e200v1 was back in the day, because the Fuze OF actually supports >2GB µSD(HC), but it's still ever so much more convenient 21.03.45 # is it safe to remove the ##port# folder too? 21.04.05 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.04.13 # also the hot key have to be enabled fo the ondas 21.04.19 # newbie: I don't see why not 21.04.54 # basically, if it's something the OF will replace like that, it probably doesn't matter to Rockbox 21.05.52 # (assuming you're transferring everything over with MSC/UMS instead of MTP... I think MTP stuff gets put in ##MUSIC# and similar) 21.06.56 # yup 21.07.29 # yes, MSC. So I'll have to remember to boot RB before plugging in. Thanks for the tip 21.07.31 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.08.27 # newbie: or, if you forget and boot to the OF, make sure it's in MSC mode 21.08.59 # and then delete the autogenerated dirs from the filebrowser when you boot back into Rockbox 21.09.17 # * Dhraakellian is probably being overly verbose 21.10.46 # OF is also set with MSC. It's the ability to completely avoid booting OF that seems to be the trick 21.14.29 # * Dhraakellian wonders if the mkamsboot in svn changes the boot-on-usb default to Rockbox yet 21.15.25 Part watto 21.16.09 # thanks for your help, I have to go now 21.16.10 # bluebrother: Just a heads up in case they didn't email you, midterm evaluations should be open today 21.16.15 # bye 21.16.16 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.16.16 # Dhraakellian: no 21.16.17 # I'm going to try and get mine done this evening 21.16.17 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 21.16.23 Part newbie 21.16.30 # by 3.7? 21.18.45 # Dhraakellian: it will be changed only when it has been determined that it is safe to do so. 21.19.08 # not considered 100% safe yet, then? 21.20.08 # not yet 21.20.38 # and the unbrick procedure is to complicated for most users 21.20.46 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.20.47 # hehheh 21.21.09 # well, I do have a backup Sansa in case my fuze goes bad 21.21.26 # ...and that'd give me an excuse to get a FuzeV2 with better battery life 21.22.03 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 21.22.29 # as long as you don't get the new Fuzev2 that can't be Rockboxed yet 21.22.44 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 21.23.05 # ?? 21.23.19 # FuzeV2 is in the unstable catagory, is it not? 21.23.41 # yes, it is in unstable 21.24.23 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 21.24.59 # so "can't be rockboxed yet"? 21.25.12 Join M3DLG [0] (~M3DLG@bb-87-81-252-83.ukonline.co.uk) 21.25.31 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-191-46.mcn.bellsouth.net) 21.26.49 # there is a new model Fuzev2 that will not accept the modified firmware, or sansa firmware older than 2.03.31 21.28.32 # eeew 21.28.53 # * TheSeven wonders why sandisk is doing that 21.28.55 # FuzeV2.1, not quite V3? 21.29.14 # TheSeven: yeah, you'd think that RockBox would be generating sales for them 21.29.25 # maybe not an appreciable amount of them, but still 21.29.50 # somebody on the forum is sending one of these to funman so he can possibly figure out what is going on 21.29.54 # i understand why apple is doing it (to protect their drm), but sandisk? 21.30.12 # and it's not like Rockbox hurts their DRM stuff, so I don't see that being behind it 21.30.53 # Rockbox never has, doesn't, and never will support DRM, so how is that a threat? 21.30.57 # TheSeven: easy. The first rule of DAP design is that one should not be able to buy a new DAP that runs rockbox. They aren't ready for a fully new model, so this is the approach they take 21.31.05 # well, if rockbox publishes how to write a custom firmware to it, evil guys can relatively easily take a stock firmware, patch out the drm restrictions, and flash that 21.31.08 # TheSeven: my guess would be that it has slightly different hardware and they did this to prevent older firmware versions being loaded and causing major problems 21.31.36 # i don't think this is really important for music drm, but we're definitely a threat to apple's game drm on nano4g 21.31.58 # bieber: thanks for the hint but I was aware of it (they sent an announcement on the mentors list ;-) 21.32.38 # gevaerts: just how non-tongue-in-cheek was that comment? 21.33.08 # TheSeven: how so? 21.33.36 # once rockbox runs on nano4g, you can just play rockbox games and don't need to buy apple games from the itunes store 21.33.51 # or is that more of an ecosystem threat than just making it a non—yeah, that 21.33.56 # Dhraakellian: I'm *always* serious :) 21.34.01 # and evil guys *will* come and use our exploits to load a patched apple firmware that accepts pirated apple games 21.34.31 # sorry, gevaerts, it just sounded a little bit paranoid/sarcastic (however justified it may be), so I was wondering 21.36.27 Join Stephen__ [0] (~S@86.45.51.58) 21.37.55 # and now I must head off to work 21.42.34 # S_a_i_n_t, bieber: new Theme Editor binaries online 21.47.17 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 21.48.13 # gevaerts: I got it working pretty well it seems, it needed a few more params 21.54.09 # * kugel has audio dropouts in the app 21.58.46 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178059066.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.58.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.59.04 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 21.59.06 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178059066.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.59.12 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.59.12 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.00.31 # seems to be caused by dsp effects 22.02.48 # how to make a patch? diff > patchname.diff ?? 22.03.45 Part HommeBarbu 22.05.24 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-35-32.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 22.05.41 # * Buschel kicks libfaad's sbr_hf crap 22.05.49 # * Buschel kicks it again and again 22.06.23 Join balintx_ [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 22.06.30 Quit halmi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.06.36 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.06.41 Join HommeBarbu [0] (~john@pool-173-62-31-152.pghkny.fios.verizon.net) 22.06.45 Part HommeBarbu 22.07.02 # * Buschel kicks it with growing exaltation 22.09.10 # * simonrvn hands Buschel a sledgehammer 22.09.51 Quit Giova (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.09.56 # * Buschel takes it to beat sbr_hf crap again and again 22.10.47 # all of this madness is just for adding hi-freq hissing to low quality aac.... 22.12.12 Quit stooo (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.12.28 # maybe we should just disable this hf-crap and keep the low bandwidth. at least we can decode in realtime then -- on PP5022 22.12.43 # not sure about other targets... 22.14.35 # Giova: "svn diff > my.patch" 22.15.12 # oops, he already left :/ 22.19.31 # bluebrother: Thanks. 22.25.41 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.199) 22.25.50 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.33.21 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.246) 22.35.21 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.35.23 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-051-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.35.57 Quit Buschel () 22.43.10 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.49.50 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.51.29 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@inet20909nc-1s.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl) 22.52.31 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.52.48 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2C097.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.53.06 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 22.53.41 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 22.53.53 # * fml draws the readers' attention to FS#11473 - New bookmarking option: one per track and asks for comments 22.54.11 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.55.33 # I faced strange problem. When running battery_bench power thread seems to hang. ADC shows correctly battery voltage but battery history (and logged output to the file) shows full battery voltage all the time. It doesn't shutdown on 'critical' voltage defined in powermgmt.c file but runs battery to death. 22.57.07 # have you seen something like this? 23.00.05 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 23.00.10 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797C2F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.00.23 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f052030197.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.01.14 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 23.02.05 Part stooo 23.02.12 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.04.13 Quit bluebrother (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.04.33 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053154241.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.04.33 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 23.04.33 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.09.05 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@2a01:608:ffff:2627:2e0:4dff:fe83:a45e) 23.11.31 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 23.15.26 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.23.01 Nick bunnyboi is now known as Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 23.23.28 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@g230084234.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.23.52 Quit wincent (Changing host) 23.23.52 Join wincent [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/wincent) 23.26.48 Quit mirak (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.28.20 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.30.44 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@g231108229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.31.05 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 23.31.11 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.32.16 Join kugel__ [0] (~kugel@g231111073.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.32.22 Nick kugel__ is now known as kugel (~kugel@g231111073.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.32.36 Quit kugel (Changing host) 23.32.36 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.34.19 Join kugel__ [0] (~kugel@g231111239.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.34.37 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 23.34.41 Nick kugel__ is now known as kugel (~kugel@g231111239.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.34.45 Quit kugel (Changing host) 23.34.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.35.00 Quit kugel_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.38.50 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.40.42 # did anyone think of using install instead of cp in buildzip.pl? 23.40.45 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 23.41.26 # I would guess not 23.41.33 # there was never any reason to 23.41.57 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-048-128.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.42.58 Quit captainewkl (Quit: Page closed) 23.43.00 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzzz) 23.44.30 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.44.58 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.45.07 # I have sansa fuze V 01.02.31F 23.45.18 # how can I install rockbox? 23.45.39 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@g231107246.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.45.50 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.163) 23.45.51 # directions are in the manual 23.46.34 # eh ok but whadda mess this web 23.47.37 Join kugel__ [0] (~kugel@e178062145.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.47.55 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 23.47.59 Nick kugel__ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178062145.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.48.05 Quit kugel (Changing host) 23.48.05 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.48.49 Quit kugel_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.53.11 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.55.05 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer)