--- Log for 14.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 12 hours ago 00.01.56 Join meluko [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 00.02.00 # hi all 00.02.14 # anyone having knowledge about ipod nano 2G ? 00.03.14 # and about Rockbox itself ? 00.03.50 # meluko: if you have a question, just ask. If anyone knows they'll answer 00.04.45 # 1st questions is: Can Rockbox play 24-bits 96khz without downsampling them nor converting them to less bits ? 00.04.52 # no 00.05.02 # It can't ? 00.05.26 # So it resample them ? 00.05.29 # rockbox plays back at 44.1kHz and 16 bits, downsampled and truncated or dithered 00.05.57 # well, should it be able to play such files ? 00.06.06 # with further developement for example 00.06.50 # it's very tricky buisiness to switch samplerate while playing but not impossible 00.07.04 # ok, sound great 00.07.50 # more bit depth is probably easier but will probably not make a lot of difference with most DACs in DAPs 00.08.48 # 2nd question is: based on documentation I found on internet, it seem that the ipod nano 2g uses a wolfson clone chip based on the WM8750 which according to its datasheet can handle stream upto 24-bits 96khz 00.09.08 # so, anyway chance to see this feature implemented in Rockbox ? 00.09.19 # well I agree it look like the 1st question ;) 00.10.29 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 00.10.44 # thank you for your answers n1s 00.11.04 # do you know if the cowon D2 port is also working with a D2+ ? 00.11.05 # meluko: you could improve the chance for that greatly, by starting to work on that yourself :-) 00.11.45 # domonoky ^^ I've just grab the SVN trunk this morning and plan to work on rockbox 00.11.46 # meluko: it's not impossible to implement the feature but i would say it's unlikely to get done 00.12.26 # but I think that implementing a suspend mode like the one in the Apple firmware is of a higher priority 00.12.41 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.12.53 # meluko: the wiki suggest rockbox works on D2+ too :-) 00.13.26 # suggest, so it works ? or it *should* works ? ;) 00.13.46 # meluko: what would such a suspend mode offer besides of draining the battery ? 00.14.00 # better work on faster boot :-) 00.14.32 Join Topy [0] (~topy@2a01:608:ffff:2627:2e0:4dff:fe83:a45e) 00.14.37 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 00.14.39 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.14.40 # well, you right 00.14.48 # you're right 00.16.13 # but, hmm, I'm not sure to work on the ipod port, as I'll switch to a cowon D2/D2+ in a few days 00.16.26 # ok, I can keep my ipod nano 2G to work on ;) 00.16.45 # not sure to be able to get some bucks with it 00.16.55 # its all the same code (besides the drivers and specific features of course) 00.17.36 # yes, it's roughly the same, even the cross compiler is the same (arm-eabi) from what I've seen this morning 00.17.49 # well, any guideline before starting to work on Rockbox ? 00.18.24 # domonoky: i think a suspend mode could be nice if it can a) suck minimal battery while speeding up resuming music significantly b) be disabled and has a configurable timeout-to-poweroff 00.19.47 # meluko: maybe take a look the th coding guidlines and search the wiki a bit.. otherwise just dive in, and ask coding questions here :-) 00.19.53 # CPU undervolting seems to be an important feature too, related to battery lifetime 00.20.39 # meluko: that's tricky business too since one cpu might run fine at lower voltage while another of the same model does not 00.21.48 # sure, maybe a common undervolting can be found, or the wiki is ambiguous : CPU frequency changing 50% No undervolting yet 00.22.03 # maybe throttling is a better way 00.22.07 # more robust 00.22.11 # reliable 00.22.43 # on some cpus we can control the volatage too.. but i think we do it only one some of them, because its difficult to get it right. 00.26.46 # what DAP do you have n1s and domonoky ? 00.27.02 # i/me counts... 00.27.08 # and yes I'm french, this explain my odd sentences ;) 00.27.38 # i/me counts ? 00.27.47 # what does this mean ? 00.27.59 # 1 old archos, a ipod 4g, a iriver h120, a mrobe:100, a sansa m200v4, sansa e200... i think i forgot something.. :-) 00.28.17 # wooh, quite impressive 00.28.44 # * domonoky wanted to say he counts his daps, but a typo sliped in :-) 00.28.59 # :° 00.29.01 # :) 00.29.46 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 00.29.47 # so no Cowon at all ? 00.29.55 # nope 00.30.28 # i have and iriver h300, gigabeat s, sansa c200v1, a broken mini 1G and a nano4g 00.30.50 # no Cowon too, is it a bad choice for a DAP ? 00.31.25 Join freddyb [0] (~chatzilla@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 00.31.37 # just asking because I'm looking for a good replacement for my old nano 2G and for the moment it seem that the D2 is a good candidate that suit my need 00.31.51 # no, there are just more DAP then one can buy.. see RockboxTesting in the wiki to see who has what players available for testing :-) 00.31.57 # but hmm, I only had a nano 2G so I can get wrong 00.32.01 # i don't know, i've never used any cowon dap 00.35.07 # ok thank you. time to sleep now. see you later, maybe with a first patch, who know ;) 00.35.39 Quit meluko (Quit: CGI:IRC) 00.35.54 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.39.58 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.43.48 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 00.46.42 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.48.15 Quit angelwolf71885 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 4.0b1/20100630132354]) 00.53.46 # * n1s spots another different version of bitstream.h in libffmpegFLAC 00.54.09 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 00.55.17 # Step four of this instruction sequence (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#3_OSOS_contains_only_the_Rockbox) states the following: "Install the Rockbox bootloader to the OSOS image with ipodpatcher -wf bootloader-youripodmodel.ipod" 00.55.21 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@adsl-70-239-1-198.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 00.55.43 # However, I seem to have missed where to retrieve the bootloader from. 00.55.50 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ 00.56.19 # Er, 00.56.25 # ah. ^^; 00.56.44 Quit wombat23 (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.57.28 # n1s: Thanks. :) 00.59.46 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzzzz) 01.00.20 Join wombat23 [0] (~beuteltie@adsl-76-230-21-225.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 01.01.07 # Excellent, no hitches at all. 01.05.03 Quit joecool (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.09.15 Quit freddyb (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100401213457]) 01.10.22 Quit wombat23 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.19.39 Join wombat23 [0] (~beuteltie@adsl-76-230-21-225.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 01.20.08 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 01.27.04 Join JdGordon [0] (3a601b9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.96.27.158) 01.27.22 Quit stephen__ (Quit: Leaving) 01.41.14 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 01.41.26 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 01.53.50 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.56.42 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 01.59.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.01.27 # bieber 02.01.29 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 02.01.37 # Woops 02.02.11 # highlighting yourself eh :P 02.02.16 Quit pixelma (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.02.16 Quit amiconn (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.02.31 # He's bot the bieber fever ;) 02.02.40 # bah! "got" 02.02.42 # Hehe 02.02.42 # hehe 02.03.18 # What was up earlier, S_a_i_n_t 02.04.09 # bieber: Question, that theme I gave you yesterday...did the .sbs load on the main menu screen? (easy to check, does it say iPod/current time or Rockbox/Themes/Settings/etc.?) 02.04.25 # Lemme see 02.04.42 # Yeah, it says iPod 02.04.45 # The .sbs loads in the sim (and used to load on device), but, suddenly stopped working for me :/ 02.05.10 # Hmmm...so, the .sbs *is* working on your end. 02.05.15 # What revision is it? 02.05.51 # I can't debug it as the device gives no debug output, and the sim thinks all is well. 02.06.47 # bieber: Battery icon, playmode. hold, disk access all show in the main menu screen? 02.07.16 # (sorry for 20 questions lol, it's annoying me ;)) 02.07.29 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 02.07.53 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.08.08 # Yep, everything is fully functional 02.08.15 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.08.24 # r27396 02.08.35 # Hmmm..well, that's good...but also sucks for me ;) 02.09.13 # I'm on 2798 and the .sbs refuses to load. :/ 02.09.21 # doh! 27398 02.09.51 # Weird 02.11.02 Join joecool [0] (~joecool@no-sources/joecool) 02.13.48 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.15.11 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 02.16.02 # hmm 02.16.09 # themeeditor not building for me 02.16.41 # make[1]: *** No rule to make target `libskin_parser.a'. Stop. 02.17.45 # you're doing "make" or "qmake"? 02.18.35 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 02.19.40 # Dhraakellian: ^ 02.23.05 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.24.32 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.25.46 # qmake 02.25.47 # make 02.25.57 # that's what the readme says, I believe 02.27.55 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.15) 02.38.08 # * S_a_i_n_t sees no good reason (or, no reason at all) why his revision and bieber's should have differing results re: .sbs loading. 02.38.39 # the *really* odd thing is, that I have an .sbs that *will* load, but the code is functionally no different. 02.39.03 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.44.18 # Having playmode icons for states not present in the build wouldn't do anything funky re: .sbs loading would it? 02.44.52 # I mean, I have recording and FM mode state icons in the fms, but recording and FM disabled in my build. 02.50.16 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.54.52 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 02.56.36 Join GeekSh4dow [0] (~Antoine@72.17.193-77.rev.gaoland.net) 02.57.05 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.78) 02.57.44 Join moparx [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 02.58.08 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.58.21 Quit GeekShad0w (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.58.33 Nick [Saint] is now known as S_a_i_n_t (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.78) 03.00.17 Join Topy [0] (~topy@2a01:608:ffff:2627:2e0:4dff:fe83:a45e) 03.00.33 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.07.13 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.07.35 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.50) 03.23.33 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-194-001.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.27.06 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 03.52.12 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 03.59.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.03.37 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 04.08.47 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.08.49 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.08.56 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.09.35 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.149) 04.10.24 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.11.00 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.11.00 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.11.15 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.25.42 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-44-217.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 04.26.11 Quit halmi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.27.57 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.32.55 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.42.04 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 05.10.59 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049113093.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.11.01 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.17.55 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.20.29 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.22.25 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.9) 05.22.54 Quit T44 (Quit: Leaving) 05.23.48 # What's the best ("best" is subjective, I know) piece of software I could use to downscale video to fit my DAP? 05.37.37 Quit GeekSh4dow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 05.39.24 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 05.39.27 # S_a_i_n_t: probably not the right channel to ask, try #mplayer (either mplayer or the ffmpeg project can probably do it... tons of frontends for them) 05.40.15 # * S_a_i_n_t fails to see why this isn't the correct channel to ask in. 05.45.40 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.49.19 # S_a_i_n_t: you'd know if you read the topic 05.52.58 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 05.56.16 Quit hebz0rl_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 05.57.56 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.59.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.01.55 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 06.03.25 Quit rob (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.03.35 # joecool: And, if it were offtopic, I'd agree with you. 06.03.46 Join rob [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-199-132.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 06.04.12 # If I said "what's the best X, for something that has nothing to do with rockbox, and never would?" 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I'm pretty sure I should just scrap it and put in a plain text editor, but I want a second opinion first 07.11.58 # JdGordon: Comment from you would be welcome as well, or simonrvn or anyone else who's seen the editor 07.12.24 Quit binaryhermit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.12.43 # Hmmm..I can't do it right this very minute, but, I can let you know at some point later on. (not too much later, however) 07.13.06 # Assuming leaving it in/deleting it isn't an immediate descision? 07.13.18 # That's cool, just whenever you get a chance 07.14.17 # Sweet, it won't be *ages* away...just a few hours. 07.14.46 # I'm just going to excise it, and in the unlikely event that people cry out for its reinstatement, I'll revert the changes :P 07.14.59 # bieber: I dont tihnk scrapping it is a good idea, but a freetext editor would be much more usble 07.15.17 # Not scrapping it as in getting rid of it altogether, just changing it to a plain text editor 07.15.48 # The whole combo box thing is just a pain, and once I get auto-completion going on, I can just use that for much less intrusive key hints 07.18.15 # updating and compiling 07.20.32 # bieber: works fine. tested opening, then closing, then tested opening one, then opening another one, then closing the second one. 07.20.52 # It's not really stability I'm worried about, just usability 07.20.56 # the first one 'disappeared' of course, which is fine. 07.21.11 # How do you feel about actually using the drop-down box interface? 07.21.14 # oh yeh, having a 'hot key' is nice too. 07.22.33 # for? 07.23.19 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 07.24.39 # For editing config files 07.24.55 # As in, if you double-click on the .cfg file in the project panel, and the editor for it comes up in a tab 07.25.07 # i don't have a problem with that 07.25.35 # i've seen all kinds, and for a project centred thing like this, it's nice to have imo 07.25.59 # Hmm 07.26.02 # bieber: oh, misunderstood... yeah, get rid of the config file editor, just open it as plaintext 07.26.07 Quit amigan_ (Quit: testing) 07.26.19 # I thought oyu were asking about the tag value setting thing 07.26.32 # having an option to open it as plaintext would be nice 07.26.38 # the cfg 07.27.48 # how it is now is good for newbies (like me) but i like to be able to get down and dirty too 07.29.22 # I tend to agree with simonrvn there. 07.29.27 # the editor shouldnt list items which are not theme items though 07.29.39 # less chance of a user making a "broken" config 07.29.39 # But, the ability to open it as a plain text file would be nice also. 07.30.19 # Is there actually a list anywhere of "theme accepted values"? 07.30.26 # I feel like the best option would definitely be auto-complete, the same way I want to do it for tags in skin files 07.30.45 # i suppose you could default to opening as it now, then if someone wants to open it as text, then set it in the prefs 07.31.02 # or something else maybe 07.31.06 # that'd be nice, yes. 07.31.21 Join Godbuster [0] (~godb@c-98-244-180-216.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 07.31.28 # like a checkbox in the 'open project' dialogue 07.31.45 # (that also would set the preference) 07.32.14 Part Godbuster 07.32.43 # auto-complete would be a nice feature for the default setting 07.33.45 # Hmm 07.34.09 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.34.14 # A checkbox on the open project dialog might work out alright, but unfortunately modifying file dialogs is a really nasty process :( 07.34.48 # so put it in the prefs dialogue for now, to simplify things for you 07.35.49 # what JdGordon said is quite a good point too 07.37.35 # How about a button on the bottom of the editor to switch back and forth from plain text mode? 07.38.14 # that would be optimal 07.38.51 # (did occur to me but i didn't how difficult it would be to do that) 07.39.15 # It'll be the simplest way to do it, really 07.39.23 # cool 07.39.43 # be neat to see it switch while it's still open :P 07.39.45 # Hmm, should I put icons or text on the buttons? 07.40.05 # follow the qt preferences maybe? 07.40.35 # I don't think there's a global preference for icons/text on buttons. I just have the option of either/or on each button 07.40.39 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.40.42 # whatever they have, follow that, and maybe default to text. ah ok. 07.41.03 # I'd kind of like them to be little square buttons like the + and - buttons there now, but I can't think of very descriptive icons for list/text mode 07.42.04 # ABC for text mode, and 3 bars for list mode? 07.43.38 # That could do it 07.46.50 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.197) 07.57.49 Join Orc [0] (~Orc@83.149.8.167) 07.59.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.00.49 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.05.45 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 08.07.33 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 08.07.33 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 08.09.52 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.09.56 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.10.07 Join JdGordon [0] (3a601b9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.96.27.158) 08.12.50 Join amigan_ [0] (dcp1990@pool-72-87-82-41.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) 08.34.44 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.36.11 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 08.36.36 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e74:38a2:29f7:b5a6:f655) 08.41.11 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.48.38 # New commit by 03funman (r27413): Fuze*/e200v2: remove unused lcd_set_contrast() 08.48.43 # New commit by 03funman (r27414): Add a lcd_contrast feature and use it for the relevant manual section 08.50.10 # r27413 build result: All green 08.50.27 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-157-229.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 08.50.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.51.20 Quit sevard (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.51.54 # r27414 build result: All green 09.03.22 Join flydutch [0] (~flydutch@host21-164-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.04.21 Quit bunnyboi (Read error: Operation timed out) 09.06.33 Quit Zarggg_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.09.26 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 09.12.05 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 09.12.18 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.12.39 Nick bunnyboi is now known as jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 09.13.31 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 09.17.01 Quit amigan_ (Remote host closed the connection) 09.19.38 Quit rob (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.23.01 Join lmjubuntu [0] (~lmjubuntu@58.195.42.183) 09.23.47 Part lmjubuntu 09.31.19 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-199-132.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 09.38.11 # New commit by 03bieber (r27415): Theme Editor: Added optional plaintext editing for config files 09.39.51 # r27415 build result: All green 09.41.43 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.45.42 Join lmjubuntu [0] (~lmjubuntu@216.18.212.218) 09.46.07 Part lmjubuntu 09.47.17 # shouldn't the lcd_contrast feature also be used in the .lang files then? 09.48.15 Join bor_ka [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 09.49.04 # pixelma: yeah ...but as usual it will break the voice files if the set of targets with lcd_contrast differs from the set that has the string/clip now? 09.49.08 # s/?// 09.49.43 # yes and no... 09.49.54 # it just adds a bunch of semi-depricated strings 09.50.20 # we should start remove all deperatced string straight after every release 09.50.55 # i did so after 3.6 09.51.02 # n1s: but we have daily voices? 09.51.22 # yes, and we should do it every release if needed, not just when we have a big backlog 09.51.35 # also there might be models which declare HAVE_LCD_CONTRAST but don't have it implemented 09.51.55 # the manual listed 5 or 6 models but grep HAVE_LCD_CONTRAST in config/ gave much more results 09.52.01 # pixelma: we do, and people will need to rebuild any other voice files they use, i don't know if we really should care about it 09.53.00 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-44-217.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 09.53.06 # IMO the bad problem about breaking voice file clip order is that it will seem to work just fine but the wrong clip(s) will play in some places 09.58.30 # the need to rebuild a voice files from time to time is unavoidable 09.58.55 # yeah, but if it would fail more explicitely it would be nicer 09.59.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.00.30 # I think we should just include a short mp3 that states "Your voice file version is incompatible with this version of rockbox and needs to be updated." and play that if the voice version doesn't match, we'd need a versioning system for the voice then 10.01.03 Quit jennifur (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10.02.11 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Page closed) 10.02.48 # I don't know, I guess I prefer a semi-working voice over nothing at all or just this info given in case I have no chance to update the voice in this case - I don't have to rely on voice though 10.05.38 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@80-123-44-196.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 10.05.38 Quit halmi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.12.16 Join c123lk [0] (~chatzilla@c-67-185-233-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 10.18.49 # Hello. 10.19.59 # I have a small question regarding rockbox. 10.21.20 # Ask it then ;) 10.22.17 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCB2A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.22.22 Quit Orc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.30.42 # is impossible to reconfigure the buttons on this system? 10.31.53 # The power button is in a really awkward place on my music player and I would like it to be this other button, instead 10.32.06 # is it possible, I should say 10.32.16 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.34.52 # ? 10.35.57 # not through a setting, but you could compile your own build which maps the buttons differently 10.36.33 # c123lk: which player do you have - an e200? 10.36.48 # fuze 10.38.35 # the power button is in a very awkward place, for me 10.38.42 # I've heard about some people with e200s that they use it with the display flipped to have the power button in a more convenient place 10.39.06 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@188.107.195.20) 10.39.34 # and display flipped is a setting, I'm not a 100% sure if it's available on the Fuze yet but I guess it is 10.39.49 # is there a step by step guide for this button reconfiguring/compiling that you mentioned, earlier? 10.42.51 # there is a guide to setting up a development platform, and compiling on the wiki. 10.43.42 # well, guides, for a few different platforms. 10.43.45 # c123lk: this isn't particularly recommended, by the way. it means you will have to compile your own build of rockbox, forever, whenever you want to update ;) 10.44.35 # if you can suggest a better way to map keys that makes logical sense and is easier to use for that device, please do so :) 10.45.54 # the power button should be what is called the home button in the original firmware. It's on the front in the upper right hand corner. 10.53.24 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.53.54 # i don't know what the fuze keymap is, but presumably that button also does something? 10.54.01 # so you'd just swap them? 10.55.17 # Yes. 10.55.47 # by default, the home button stops playback. However, the power button does the same thing. 10.56.19 # er 10.56.27 # that doesn't sound right (or match what the manual says) 10.56.30 # long home is stop 10.56.45 # yes. 10.56.49 # * Torne looks at the keymap 10.57.39 # If it were the power button, rockbox would make a bookmark and then turn off, instead of just stopping. 10.58.43 # wait, so your use case is that you basically always turn the player off when you stop playback 10.59.10 # Yes. Or hit the pause button. 10.59.22 # ...you want to turn off on pause? 10.59.25 # that's.. odd 10.59.35 # anyway, remapping the buttons seems like a spectacularly strange way to do this 10.59.40 # home does other things than stopping.. 10.59.51 # no. the pause button is a different button, right? 11.00.08 # ..what? 11.00.55 # anyway. if you just want it to turn off when you stop playback, just set the idle poweroff to a really short time? :) 11.01.38 # remapping ht ebuttons seems very odd, especially since you then lose all the other stuff that uses the home button 11.02.16 # thank you for your time. What are some of the other things that button is supposed to do 11.02.30 # it's the hotkey, in file browser and wps 11.02.46 # (in wps this defaults to showing the playlist but can be remapped) 11.02.56 # holding it in combination with scrolling does pageup/down 11.03.01 # and various other stuff. read the keymap :) 11.03.03 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/keymaps/keymap-fuze.c?revision=27177&view=markup 11.04.13 # if you just don't want the player to stay on when you aren't playing anything, setting the idle poweroff time to 1 minute would be much easier 11.04.54 # thank you. I think I will try your short idle suggestion. Just in case I decided to try it, how much work is doing the recompile and switching the power button and home button? 11.05.14 # switching th ebuttons is easy: edit the file i just linked you to 11.05.20 # recompiling is easy if you can follow instructions ;) 11.05.43 # but you will have to do it every time you want to update, since you are making your own build of rockbox and thus you will need to update and make the change again and compile again, every time. 11.06.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide <- links to resources on how to get hte code and copmile 11.06.27 # if you are on windows vmware is recommended 11.06.37 # cygwin is very slow :) 11.07.23 # no it's even slower than that 11.07.35 # heh 11.09.44 # for swapping the button functions completely I wouldn't edit the keymap - too many traps 11.09.44 # :) I am on Windows. Thank you for pointing out the resources, Torne. for now, I will try your easy workaround. 11.10.19 # pixelma: it's probably best *not* to swap them completely, though ;) 11.10.33 # though, actually, poweroff is done by firmware code ,not the keymap 11.10.36 # so you'd have to edit that 11.10.44 # okay it's slightly more complicated :) 11.10.53 # What is your idea, pixelma? 11.11.24 # c123lk: you can completely switch the buttons by changing the definition of which button is which in the first place, instead of editing the keymap 11.11.37 # you will still have to compile your own build forever, though 11.11.41 # so it's not any easier 11.12.11 # if iw sa going to do it i'd hack firmware to take long home as poweroff and just change the keymap a little, though 11.12.14 # I'm not currently too concerned with updates. 11.12.15 # * Torne shrugs 11.12.22 # it's easier to not bother, and just set idle poweroff 11.12.29 # or to just conclude that leaving it on doesn't matter that much :) 11.12.38 # though i'm not sure how the fuze's power consumption is right now 11.12.52 # too much 11.12.55 # on most of the devices that have been supported a while, leaving them on doesn't really drain the battery that much 11.13.28 # fuzev1 uses twice more power than OF or so 11.13.28 # it's not worth the effort of turning my ipod off if i'm gonna turn it back on in the next hour or so :) 11.14.28 # Twice as much power? good to know. 11.16.48 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.17.22 # Hopefully, rockbox will become more efficient as later versions appear, so far as the battery life is concerned 11.18.15 # there has been a bit progress, you can see it on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime 11.18.44 # now the fuzev1 needs 1.5 more power, a bit less than 2 more 11.22.36 # traditionally, has it taken very many months for rockbox to catch up to the original firmware? I understand that the fuze is relatively new. 11.23.21 # it varies wildly per device 11.23.28 # it depends how much of th device's hardware has public datasheets, etc 11.23.34 # and how many people are interested in working on it 11.23.52 # and just on luck; whether stuff works as it should or not ;) 11.24.16 # It seems like SanDisk products have comparatively good battery life, eventually 11.26.58 # at any rate, I appreciate the time. Thanks, again, for the assistance. Have a good early morning, guys 11.28.18 # no problem 11.29.18 Quit c123lk (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939]) 11.33.06 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.43.16 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 11.54.25 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.59.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.59.52 Join mitk [0] (~mitk@195.117.162.130) 12.08.05 Join Orc [0] (~Orc@83.149.8.81) 12.13.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.20.23 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 12.20.39 Quit halmi_ (Quit: halmi_) 12.23.25 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.29.02 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.31.20 Quit bor_ka (Quit: CGI:IRC) 12.31.22 Join CFP [0] (~wirc@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 12.36.10 Quit CFP (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.39.19 # bieber: still round? 12.49.53 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.50.04 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-44-196.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 12.55.37 Join CFP [0] (~CFP@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 12.57.27 # Hello everyone! I have a Gigabeat F60 with rockbox installed, and I was wondering about remote control standards: I've lost the original remote, but I have nokia phones remotes, and I thought maybe these could be used? Would it require to change some parts of the code? Is there some kind of a standard? 12.57.54 # I mean, a standard defining wich signals are sent by the remote? 12.58.31 # it almost certainly wont work without some effort 12.59.16 # JdGordon: Indeed, as of now it seems to send random commands repeatedly 12.59.31 # But do you know which ports it communicates through? 12.59.47 # wouldnt have a clue 13.00.30 # I've been unable to identify it using the IO ports debug screen... 13.01.17 # wait 13.01.50 # the GPFDAT entry seems to alternate between D1 and F1 when the remote is plugged in 13.02.21 # nothing happens when buttons are pressed though. Any idea why? 13.03.03 # you are working on alot of assumptions... 13.03.33 # are the remotes electrically idential? do they use the same communication porotocol? do they use the same command protocol? 13.04.24 # well, no idea 13.04.26 # at all 13.05.00 # Yet I thought maybe I could implement something 13.05.06 # to support nokia remotes 13.05.19 # do you know which part of the code does remote handling? 13.06.39 # not a clue 13.06.49 # somewhere under firmware/target presumably 13.07.03 # wherever the beat f code is 13.08.26 # ok, thanks ; I'll boot into my linux then and try to have a look 13.08.29 Quit CFP (Quit: Quitte) 13.08.54 Join sevard [0] (sev@216.164.6.24) 13.11.05 # anyone around that can build the theme editor? 13.13.01 Join cfp [0] (~cfp@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 13.13.06 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.14.05 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.22.19 # bieber: can you look at FS#11477 soonish please? specifially adding support for it in the editor... I want to commit that ASAP but wont untill I know for sure it wont break the editor 13.30.56 Join Stephen___ [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 13.31.43 # S_a_i_n_t: ping 13.31.54 # pong 13.32.08 # you're telling me! I can smell it from here... 13.32.14 # Could you have a look at a .sbs for me ? it's failing on the sim. 13.32.36 # I'm updating the old themes from before the syntax changes 13.32.58 # Least I could do is look :D 13.33.03 # Pastebin it. 13.33.27 # http://pastebin.com/rwpVpppr 13.33.29 # thanks 13.33.37 # failing at line 48 the fm radio bit 13.34.34 # which means it's line 47, 48, or 49 ;) 13.34.42 # (usually) 13.35.04 # If you're lucky that is, if it fails on a font the line number can be completely random :D 13.35.10 # yeah i've bene at it for abotu half an hour now 13.35.26 # it's the last of the fuze ones I have to update 13.35.58 # you commented the lines to root out that area that was failing? 13.36.20 # yeah sorry. it's them three lines I have commented out 13.37.02 # I have a suspicion, but, Ill research it before I say anything ;) 13.37.11 # Thanks. 13.38.15 # what's with the -- ? 13.39.33 # that's *one* of my thoughs, yes. 13.39.57 # my other though is if "_" needs to be escaped these days. 13.40.02 # as in "%_" 13.40.12 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.40.56 # i've deleted one of the - from -- adn it doesn't complain anymore. 13.41.13 # always the little things. 13.41.18 # haha, I was just writing that about to press enter. 13.41.18 # and isn't ?mv just purely ? 13.41.22 # Same result here :D 13.42.04 # pixelma: Yes, it is. 13.42.05 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 13.42.09 # I don't think _ needs to be escaped, it doesn't have another meaning 13.42.20 # I can't tell what's going on in that line myself 13.42.55 # ah, I guess that should a basic progress bar 13.43.03 # me either, not sure what the author wanted to achieve 13.43.38 # a drawn one, no bitmap 13.43.45 # the systax is wrong with the playbar there 13.43.53 # it beeds to be (,,,) 13.43.59 # not ||||| 13.45.01 # It also doesn't seem to call a bitmap. 13.45.06 # what the HELL does that line do? 13.45.09 # JGordon: I can build it, but must have go in 15 minutes. Is it enough time for you? 13.45.15 # line 50 13.45.16 # fixed the ,,, 13.45.26 # S_a_i_n_t: you don't need a bitmap for a progress bar 13.45.40 # ahhh...right, no...you don't. 13.45.52 # still, doesn't it have too many arguments? 13.46.11 # what's the first "-" in line 50 doing? 13.46.24 # shouldn;t that be the "x" 13.46.27 # +? 13.47.04 # hmm teh skinupdater should have fixed the %pv line no ? 13.47.21 # the skinupdater probably didn't know what to do with it. 13.47.31 # it would have been wrong in the old syntax too probably. 13.47.32 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 13.47.51 # the - there means "no bitmap" 13.47.52 # i think i'll have to test the radio code on device 13.48.17 # JdGordon, No clue, seems that it won't recognize button presses on the remote. 13.48.38 # JdGordon: look at 13:45. I misstyped your nick, sorry 13.48.44 # also if it is indeed fm radio skin code I'd have to do up a .fms wouldn't I. 13.48.49 # Does anyone know where I could find info on how nokia remotes communicate ? 13.49.13 # mitk: can you patch and quickly test FS#11477 please? 13.49.13 # " %?mv(2)<%pv(0,0,57,5)> " *should* be how the author intended it. 13.49.16 # coz i just noticed that battery icon doesn't display when I enter fm screen so I don't think that code does anything for the sbs anyway 13.49.24 # Stephen___: ^^ 13.49.27 # bassically just check if the %t() tag doesnt break if you use a decimal 13.49.55 # S_a_i_n_t: no that gives a token error missing. 13.50.13 # Oh, really? 13.50.14 # S_a_i_n_t: you still need the - for "no bitmap" 13.50.32 # where a .bmp would be otherwise 13.50.32 # ahhh...right, but, it's at the other end now. 13.50.33 # JdGordon:I can patch and compile. Not enough time now to test. Can put binary on an server 13.50.46 # so: > " %?mv(2)<%pv(0,0,57,5,-)> " 13.51.08 # yeah that's it sorted still no idea what it's meant to do ? 13.51.10 # ok, dont worry about it.. I cant test here because I cant download qt4-dev and your binary is probably going to be big if compiled statically 13.51.12 # I assume we don;t need a false case here. 13.51.19 # S_a_i_n_t: and he explained below why he put the _ in the false branch 13.51.21 # and a "_" would look crap IMO :P 13.51.51 # cu then, bye 13.52.21 Quit mitk (Quit: Leaving) 13.52.22 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 13.52.37 # pixelma: That problem with updating has been fixed in the FMS though 13.52.49 # so, the false case isn't necessary anymore 13.53.43 # (now there's brand new tags that don;t work in the FMS, but %mv and %t are fixed :)) 13.54.36 Join Redkiller [0] (440087e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.0.135.225) 13.54.43 # hello 13.54.45 # Stephen___: So, it's now safe to remove lines 51~53 13.55.04 # (and the false case from the %mv line (line 51) also 13.55.18 # *line 50 rather 13.55.44 # cool thanks S_a_i_n_t ; pixelma 13.55.51 # No worries. 13.56.18 # As long as I'm awake and at my PC, I'll at least try to help ;) 13.56.23 # sorry to interrupt, but would any of you know which file allocation size is best to use for rockbox on an ipod 5g? 13.56.44 # * Stephen___ moves on to next set of themes to update 13.56.58 # Redkiller: whatever the default is... doesnt really make a difference 13.57.29 # well apparently the ipod is capping me at only 9 of the 30 gigs 13.57.42 # I don't even understand what "file allocation size" refers to 13.58.05 # * S_a_i_n_t suggests that file system errors are probably the cause. 13.58.06 # when you format you can choose file allocation size 13.58.24 # s/probably/possibly/ 13.58.43 # well I reformatted three times with different allocation settings and eventually came back to default 13.58.45 # Redkiller: it makes very little difference 13.59.08 # Redkiller: the ipod should be formatted with fat32 so regardless of the alloc size it will only lose a small percentage of its capacity 13.59.21 # windows will default to 4kb, and that's probably fine 13.59.26 # i'm not sure what itunes does 13.59.38 # it may use something else, which kinda makes sense in theory but makes little difference in reality 13.59.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.46 # I *think* iTunes does 4ks sectors as well. 13.59.47 # well at 16 kb I could load about 4 gigs of music and 2 of movies 14.00.01 # I guess it's formatted wrongly then (wrong sector size or what it's called) 9GB is about 1/4th of the 30GB... 14.00.03 # *kb 14.00.10 # and on default it became 9.12 14.00.16 # er 14.00.18 # then it's broken 14.00.24 # you are doing something wrong :) 14.00.29 # changing the size doesn't matter 14.00.41 # i suggest you format it with itunes, not windows, also 14.01.29 # it just tells me It cannot read the soure file or disk even though I already went through 8 damn drive checks and even checked my external drive where I was pulling the music off of 14.01.31 # pixelma: i'm guessing it's 2kb logical sectors over usb throwing it :) 14.01.37 Quit Stephen___ (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.01.40 # no errors 14.01.41 # pixelma: since that is conveniently a factor of four 14.01.53 # Redkiller: What it "it"? 14.01.56 # Redkiller: what tells you that? 14.02.05 # *is 14.02.17 # windows disk check 14.02.34 # right 14.02.45 # it sounds like you have a 5.5g and it's getting confused by the 2048-byte logical sectors 14.02.53 # And I reformatted with windows, formatted with itunes, then proceeded to install rockbox 14.02.55 # format it using itunes instead. 14.03.03 # then leave it alone :) 14.03.08 Quit bzed (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.03.12 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 14.04.12 # is that it? 14.04.17 # hm? 14.04.18 # I already did that 14.04.26 # so what was the problem with that? 14.04.48 # like I said I formatted it as necessary 14.05.01 # that is how I came to this 14.05.20 # formatting it is not necessary to install rockbox 14.05.21 # or even recommended 14.05.38 # I had an ipod nano 2g and it ran flawlessly until I killed it 14.05.54 # if you want to start from clean, just restore it in itunes so itunes formats it, then install rockbox 14.05.56 # so i kind of know that something is wrong 14.05.57 # done 14.05.57 # If you "needed" to format it from suddenly losing a lot of capacity, and it;s been behaiving oddly ever since, it sounds like the drive is just...broken. 14.06.15 # S_a_i_n_t: no, the formatting issue sounds like a sector size thing. it's probably ont the drive. 14.06.17 # and if I do not format it it bricks and neither itunes or windows reads it 14.06.22 # windows is not very clever about sectors that are not 512 bytes 14.06.31 # and 5.5g ipods claim to have 2048 byte sectors ove rusb 14.06.53 # Redkiller: i don't understand what you are talking about.. are you talking about a nano or a 5g? 14.07.04 # But, if he formatted it with windows, then with iTunes...whatever windows did wrong should be repaired, no? 14.07.11 # it sounds like this hasn;t happened 14.07.11 # the 5g, i used the nano as reference 14.07.18 # the nano is totally different to the 5g 14.07.22 # the install doesn't work the same 14.07.26 # don't use it as a reference 14.07.39 # not what I meant 14.07.56 # S_a_i_n_t: you havnt got the theme editor open do you? 14.07.58 # I meant to say I had installed it succesfully before 14.08.05 # All you need to do is format it in itunes, run the rockbox utility to install it, and then you're done. 14.08.08 # Did you do that? What happened? 14.08.18 # yes 14.08.21 # JdGordon: No, sorry. 14.08.28 # that is how it is working right now 14.08.33 # but it limits me 14.08.41 # and that is the problem 14.09.22 # *sigh* 14.09.24 # right. so, after formatting with itunes, the disk claimed to have the wrong capacity? 14.09.36 # without you formatting it in windows? and you are now trying to format it yourself to fix the problem? 14.09.42 # your explanation has been very convoluted :) 14.09.46 # i'm trying to work out what you've done 14.10.24 # No, it shows it has 27.8G like it is mocking me 14.10.42 # even though I can only use 9G before it stops 14.11.19 # I formatted it in windows, restored it in itunes and used the rockbox installer 14.11.41 # what happens when it "stops"? 14.11.46 # what happens when you try to write more data to the drive? 14.11.53 # To root out any other things that may or may not have happened, try it now, while you're here: *without* formatting with Windows (unnecessary), restore using iTunes, then install Rockbox. 14.11.57 # then report back. 14.12.06 # "cannot read from source file or drive" 14.12.29 # Right. 14.12.34 # So, either the filesystem is corrupt, or the disk is broken 14.12.55 # run chkdsk /f 14.13.09 # @saint: I already restored it three times 14.13.16 # the themes work fine 14.13.45 # Yes, but, each time you've restored it you;ve irrelevantly formatted with windows first. 14.13.58 # S_a_i_n_t: that's irrelevant, though, so doing it again is useless 14.14.03 # It'd be nice to know that something crazy isn't happening there 14.14.05 # trying different allocation settings of course 14.14.17 # Redkiller: restoring in itunes formats the drive again, just so you know 14.14.22 # so formatting with windows first does nothing 14.14.31 # that is why I won't do that 14.14.40 # I already waited long enough 14.14.44 # Restoring in itunes is the only thing guaranteed to put the filesystem on there correctly 14.14.48 # :) 14.14.56 # It sounds like your disk is broken. Seriously. 14.15.26 # it is probably broken, oh well 14.15.27 # formatting it with a different allocation size changes the layout of stuff on disk, which might mean you manage to put a different amount of data on there before you hit a bad area 14.15.33 # but it doesn't fix the problem. 14.15.44 # There's several things you cna try to check if the disk *is* broken.. 14.15.44 # it helped though 14.15.59 # like what? 14.16.05 # boot the diagnostic mode on the ipod (hold rewind+select to power on) 14.16.13 # then pick manual, io, disk, smart data 14.16.13 # I already tried regular filesystem checks like mad 14.16.15 # (i think) 14.16.18 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.16.24 # in there it should list a pending reallocated sector count 14.16.27 # and some other numbers 14.16.30 # tell me what those are ;) 14.16.36 # aight 14.17.10 # no smart data 14.17.15 # only hard drive 14.17.19 # it might be there 14.17.25 # i forget what it's called, i don't have my ipod in front of me 14.17.31 # it is probably hard drive 14.17.40 # yeah 14.17.42 # it is 14.17.55 # reallocs:1440 14.18.03 # pending sectors? 14.18.12 # pending sectors:0 14.18.19 # ok, that drive has had 1440 bad sectors then 14.18.28 # the disk has remapped around them, but that doesn't, unfortunately, really solve hte problem 14.18.31 # it will not get better 14.18.34 # you need a new drive 14.18.40 # fuck 14.18.59 # sorry 14.19.08 # thanks for the answer at least 14.19.24 # it probably has lots more bad sectors that it hasn't yet successfully remapped 14.19.30 # this explains the read errors 14.19.39 # being the poorboy I am I don't have the plastic to pa for a drive, but ill wait and see what happens 14.19.43 # and yeah, formatting with different settings will move the drive layout around some 14.19.47 # so the bad sectors fall in a different place 14.19.54 # which might, by fluke, let certain things work 14.19.59 # but eventually it will hit the bad areas again 14.20.05 # there's not really any getting around it 14.20.43 # I wish they made these like they made stuff back in the 50's 14.20.52 # for reference.. next time it's much easier if you start by explaining your problem, rather than asking for details of one step in what you think is the solution ;) 14.20.53 # shit would outlast me 14.20.59 # but thanks man 14.21.04 # because it wasn't clear what you actually had done or what the problem was ;) 14.21.06 # haha! then you'd need to carry it around in a backpack :D 14.21.12 # Or a small trailer even :P 14.21.26 # it be worth it 14.22.30 # i really need to implement SMART support in rockbox :) 14.22.39 # then when your disk is dead rockbox will be able to tell you ;) 14.25.44 # @Torne: I tried to provide the relevant details that you guys probably did not know and I thought I would just give the info that would provide you guys with the least confusion, bUT i FAILED HEHEH 14.26.04 # damnit caps lock 14.26.26 # well good night people. or morning... 14.26.39 Quit Redkiller (Quit: Page closed) 14.28.50 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.30.37 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@g224144021.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.30.54 Quit Farthen (Client Quit) 14.32.17 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.32.21 # Torne: How hard would it be to add S.M.A.R.T data to (for instance) the debug screen? 14.32.29 # It would be kinda cool ;) 14.33.30 # there is a smart plugin isnt there? 14.33.32 # in the tracker 14.33.50 # * S_a_i_n_t looks. 14.34.16 # It shouldn't be too difficut. SMART is just a matter of sending a ATA request after all 14.35.02 # * JdGordon annoyingly is back to having no progressbar, but empty text lines work again :/ 14.35.08 # which FS ? 14.35.22 # JdGordon: there's a feature request for one 14.35.25 # not a plugin, that i know of :) 14.35.37 # it's on my todo list 14.35.44 # i was going to put basic support in core, though 14.35.57 # so it can check for the overall health and the pending reallocs and other well known numbers at boot time 14.36.11 # and have a plugin to display the full attributes and to be able to initiate selftests 14.36.39 # the problem with it is interpreting the data, not retrieving it 14.36.57 # since the meaning of most values is not specified anywhere :) 14.36.59 # yes 14.37.10 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.37.14 # but there are a few basic stats which are good failure indicators which are standard across almost every drive 14.37.17 # so, that would be okay to do in core 14.37.19 # I don't know a tool which can do it correctly, the smart data is nonsense in lots of cases 14.37.27 # and maybe i can steal the smartmontools drive feature db for the plugin :) 14.37.27 # * S_a_i_n_t can't seem to find anything S.M.A.R.T related in the tracker... 14.37.38 # S_a_i_n_t: the one I knew of was a feature request, adn thusly has now been closed 14.37.42 # there was no code there 14.37.46 # just a proposal that there *should* be such a plugin 14.38.00 # Aha. 14.38.01 # i have instead put it on my personal todo list 14.38.07 # :) 14.38.21 # the list that's...how long now? :P 14.38.25 # not that many 14.38.33 # a couple of things on it are rather big, thoguh :) 14.43.35 Quit Kitar|st () 14.44.23 # My mammoth skin rework patch changes the draw order to the order in the skin (so images and stuff are drawn in the order they are in the skin code instead of at a block at the end of each viewport) 14.44.37 # That causes some problems with current skins... but has been the plan for ages... 14.45.00 # of course, this is really only a problem if you dont use viewports... 14.45.04 # * JdGordon curses svn cabbie 14.45.06 # It has? I thought it was dropped...for that reason (causing problems with some themes) 14.45.27 # is there any way to do that in a later patch? 14.45.58 # not anymore :/ 14.46.14 # S_a_i_n_t: no, there was something else in the origional patch which made it get dropped 14.46.24 # I dont remember what thuough 14.46.27 # ...oh. 14.46.51 # Quite a few themes rely on draw order abuse to make certain effects. 14.47.14 # It'll be interesting to see which authors complain. 14.47.21 # I just hope one of them isn;t me. 14.47.34 # right, except that was somewhat magic to begin with... 14.47.48 # now the draw order is guarenteed 14.48.57 # For the sake of consistency, it would been nice if it was a seperate patch, but, if you can't go back then you can't go back I guess. 14.49.09 # you should be able to do better effects now :) 14.49.35 # well yeah, but because it is an entire rewrite of the display and parse code I would actually need to add extra code and then take it out later 14.49.39 Nick cfp is now known as cfp_ (~cfp@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 14.49.44 # its not like this is a 1 line change... 14.50.01 # Hehehe...you're like the techie version of a creepy guy that lures kids in with sweets ;) 14.50.04 # *cough* 21 files changed, 1443 insertions(+), 2030 deletions(-) 14.50.06 Nick cfp_ is now known as cpitcla_ (~cfp@ip-118.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) 14.50.09 Quit Orc () 14.50.16 # "here kiddies, have some better graphic effects" :D 14.50.21 # that isnt even the latest version 14.50.29 # as long as yo only think that in irc :) 14.50.34 # that's a HUGE diff 14.51.01 # 2/3 of the skin engine is rewritten 14.51.28 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-142-67-103.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 14.57.20 # * JdGordon should probaly make conditional viewports work :p 14.57.44 Part cpitcla_ ("Quitte") 14.58.29 Join bzed_ [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 14.59.02 Nick bzed_ is now known as Guest90611 (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 14.59.48 # * pixelma wonders if 2/3rd of all the bugs that had been fixed by now, will be back too ;) 15.00.01 Quit bzed (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.00.44 # * JdGordon wonders how much help testing he is going to get 15.01.39 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.02.25 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.10.39 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.197) 15.11.18 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 15.12.23 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.19.33 Quit krazykit (Quit: work) 15.19.56 # S_a_i_n_t: pixelma: when a conditional viewport is disabled it doesnt get cleared in svn right? 15.20.17 # you have to manually enable another viewport over it to clear that area 15.21.06 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@static.225.178.40.188.clients.your-server.de) 15.21.43 # JdGordon; Correct. 15.21.47 # And, it sucks. 15.22.40 # I have even resorted to drawing a bitmap overtop of it to "clear" a viewport before now ;) 15.23.02 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.23.22 # ok cool, I can probably add a tag to *clear* a viewport if it is really wanted 15.23.41 # Yep, I'd love it. 15.24.08 # that would be awesome 15.24.11 # maybe an auto clear tag like Vf() sort of thing 15.24.32 # put it on SkinWishList and remind me after this mammoth is in 15.24.43 # Yeah, awsome. 15.25.07 # Sortof like "clear viewport while condition is false" you mean? 15.25.15 # Or, am I not quite getting it? 15.25.40 # yeah, except it wont actually work the way I thought it would in my mind :p 15.25.53 # having a clear viewport tag would be much simpler to implement 15.27.47 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 15.28.10 # Ah, yeah...cool. Then just add "%Xx" to the "false" parameter. Nice idea. 15.28.28 # Or the "true" one, you get the idea :) 15.28.43 # bingo 15.35.12 # 27 files changed, 1610 insertions(+), 2082 deletions(-) 15.39.19 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.39.24 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.39.55 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 15.41.30 # for those not watching the mailing list.. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11470i is ready for testing (some things are missing but it is complete enough to get some bugs from many eyes anyway). I intend to commit this before 3.7 unless it is too buggy. 15.41.49 # that is 6 weeks away... so no chance of anyone saying there hasnt been enough lead time... 15.42.29 # (I know charcell is broken atm so no need to test that YET... but someone will need to step up for that) 15.43.14 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.46.37 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.135) 15.47.44 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.49.06 # JdGordon: Maybe that's a good opportunity to use the Official Test Builds part of the forum? It might generate more testing 15.49.29 # it wont... I've tried putting builds there before 15.49.53 # I will when I'm ready to say it is finished, no need before then 15.50.01 # Gotchya, okay then 15.54.33 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 15.55.41 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.59.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.03.28 # gevaerts: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25255.msg169372#msg169372 - a case of annoying hub again? 16.10.40 # hm, that reminds me 16.11.03 # amiconn: did you test a more or less recent build with your hub? 16.13.15 Quit anewuser (Quit: http://xrl.us/detroitVI Sixth edition of 25 samples + 48 hours + detroit party (july 31) (maybe streamed online!)) 16.19.18 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 16.26.02 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 16.30.16 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 16.37.05 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 16.38.58 Quit storm` (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.50.56 Join whydoubt_ [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 16.54.07 Quit whydoubt (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.55.47 Quit whydoubt_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.57.27 Join whydoubt [0] (~whydoubt@ip68-12-76-9.ok.ok.cox.net) 16.57.55 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.58.19 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.26) 17.02.37 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 17.10.28 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.12.37 Nick Guest90611 is now known as bzed (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 17.14.37 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 17.15.55 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.33.01 # what's the status of the USB mode on the Clip+? anything I can test? 17.33.24 # see the wiki 17.33.28 # but no, theres nothing to test 17.33.51 # I asked here because the wiki was low on details :) 17.34.04 # even the part that explains why USB doesn't work ? 17.34.44 # are you referring to something other than this? "Until the USB driver is fully operational, file transfer support is provided by booting the Original Firmware" 17.34.54 # yes 17.35.28 # where? I was looking at the SansaAMS page 17.36.40 # gevaerts: No, sinec I don't need a hub for regular use anymore 17.42.42 # I do have the impression that there are still sporadic resets, even without hub. Also usb performance isn't great 17.46.30 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@80-123-44-196.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 17.46.55 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.47.19 # The usb for clip+ doesn't work. It reliably get stuck at the same point always and always and I have absolutely no idea of what is going not. I can't do any progress until I'm back home with an another computer to correctly run the usb analyzer 17.48.43 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.59.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.04.06 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 18.05.56 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 18.06.25 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@80-123-44-106.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 18.08.39 Quit halmi_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.12.19 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 18.27.23 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 18.34.25 Join wadaiko [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 18.34.42 # hi all 18.35.21 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.38.18 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 18.52.50 Quit halmi (Quit: halmi) 19.11.32 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8ECA1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.17.14 Join tydeas [0] (~dmtrsslvd@188.4.166.26.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) 19.18.03 # are you ppl thinking of porting Rockbox to Create Noman MyVo tx ? 19.18.23 # no 19.19.00 # Ok... obvious. What information should some have to own to do something like rockbox for this old mp3 players? 19.19.57 # just from curiosity. 19.20.40 # Have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 19.22.56 # nice work guys 19.23.08 # dont think will use it or be able to port something 19.23.15 # but once again bravo 19.23.31 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.29.31 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.37.50 Quit wadaiko (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 19.42.21 Quit moparx (Disconnected by services) 19.42.42 Join moparx_ [0] (~moparx@unaffiliated/moparx) 19.48.12 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 19.49.27 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 19.50.41 Quit moparx_ (Remote host closed the connection) 19.52.13 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.52.58 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 19.55.20 # New commit by 03mt (r27416): Remove the floating point code from wmaprodec.c and change variable names accordingly. 19.55.39 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 19.57.10 # r27416 build result: All green 19.59.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.01.36 # so are we close to WMA Pro on a device? 20.02.23 # I'd say so yes 20.05.05 Quit literal (Quit: hlagh) 20.10.09 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 20.15.23 # ha wmapro does not like being compiled without all the linux header files available 20.16.46 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.17.07 # saratoga: sim build ? 20.17.20 # mt: clip build :) 20.18.17 # yeah this will shout out lots of stuff :) 20.18.48 Quit literal (Quit: leaving) 20.19.46 # is libavutil used for anything but av_malloc? 20.20.52 # av_log 20.21.03 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 20.21.05 # and some attributes from internal 20.21.13 # internal.h* 20.22.51 # so whats the next step? 20.23.13 # drop the malloc calls and remaining stuff for libavutil? 20.23.15 # Compiling for a real target 20.23.20 # it's just one malloc 20.23.27 # the mdct uses them too 20.23.35 # unless you've got that working with the codeclib now 20.23.57 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 20.24.05 Quit dfkt_ (Changing host) 20.24.05 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.24.08 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 20.25.24 # which mdct ? wmapro's fixed point mdct doesn't use malloc, or did you mean something else ? 20.25.30 Quit tydeas (Quit: leaving) 20.26.02 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.27.46 # mt: sorry you're right 20.27.54 # grep was misleading, its there but in a dead block 20.28.10 # ah ok .. np 20.28.50 Join giovanni_ [0] (~giovanni@93.37.246.142) 20.29.07 # hi 20.29.47 # I've added the patch Monday I was talking about for the ONDAvx777 20.30.20 # It just enabled the hot key option in the menù, and allow the power button to be used to say YES in the yes&no screen 20.36.20 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.41.29 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 20.45.09 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.49.10 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.51.37 Quit parafin (Quit: upgrade) 20.52.47 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 20.54.16 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.26) 20.54.59 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.55.44 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCB2A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.09.38 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 21.09.54 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 21.09.54 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@97.100.203.106) 21.10.42 # so the new rendering code 21.10.53 # Will it behave any differently? 21.11.09 # Is it more strict concerning, say, overlapping viewports? 21.11.39 # (not that it should be done, but other viewports and default/fullscreen viewport always overlap, right?) 21.16.25 Part giovanni_ ("Sto andando via") 21.17.45 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.25.09 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 21.28.42 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 21.31.49 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 21.37.09 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.37.42 # Bad news 21.37.55 # New commit by 03mt (r27417): Add WMA Pro to the main build. WMA Pro now plays on target and decodes in 151% realtime in a 320kbps sample on a sansa e200. Lots of cleanup still ... 21.38.25 # how's that bad news? 21.38.32 # mt: Sounds more like good news 21.38.47 # ah, my mistake :P 21.38.59 # anyway, congratulations 21.39.03 # thanks 21.39.12 # yes, congratulations! 21.39.23 # Thanks :) 21.39.29 # r27417 build result: 27 errors, 497 warnings (mt committed) 21.39.37 # ah! there's the bad news! :P 21.39.45 # haha 21.42.01 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.42.58 # mt: i think it wuld be good to disable the codec for targets with very small codec buffers for now (the 3 sansas) 21.44.01 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.26) 21.44.04 # yeah I'll probably do that 21.48.33 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.49.02 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.32) 21.49.14 # how much additional memory is needed on these ones? 21.49.44 # ouch, ~230kB 21.49.45 # funman: it overflowed the plugin buffer by more than 200k 21.50.09 # perhaps we should compress functions and decompress them one by one at runtime O:-) 21.52.49 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.21) 21.53.21 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.53.38 # it has some very large tables 21.54.02 # so, load the tables as binaries into the audio buffer :) 21.55.13 # awesome 21.56.03 # mt: wmapro_mainbuild.patch can be removed now? 21.56.56 Quit flydutch (Quit: /* empty */) 21.57.00 # saratoga: i've synced the codeclib bitstream stuff from ffmpeg and cook works fine, so i think i'll try it with wma, did you change that stuff from the ffmpeg version (except for removing unused stuff, killing warnings and mallocs etc)? 21.58.06 # sincos_lookup_wmap *almost* fits in 16bits 21.58.16 # funman: many things can be removed now 21.59.19 # That will be in cleanup commits later 21.59.27 # * amiconn spots funman and slaps him with a tr... 21.59.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.00.00 # amiconn: not sure why i missed the binsize difference, surely a window was in front of my browser 22.00.31 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 22.00.39 # well, have fun sorting out those 524 problems 22.00.54 # in my defense i checked genlang doc: "different strings, separated with colons." 22.05.06 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.05.06 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@static-71-249-251-152.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 22.05.33 # I'll disable wmapro again for now and work on those errors tomorrow, very tired now .. 22.06.39 # mt: i can have a look (not sure if i know what's going on with iaudio) 22.06.54 # i just put clipv2 PCB pictures on SansaClip 22.07.46 # New commit by 03mt (r27418): Remove WMA Pro again from the main build temporarily till the errors/warnings are sorted out. 22.09.18 # funman: Thanks :) .. don't worry about it though if you don't have time, I should be able to fix that tomorrow 22.09.26 # r27418 build result: All green 22.11.54 Quit literal (Quit: leaving) 22.12.11 # ah the problem is big endian 22.13.40 # Another one is iram size (m200v4 & friends) 22.14.05 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@genld-219-243.t-mobile.co.uk) 22.14.13 # codecs don't use iram on m200v4 & cie (at least rockbox thinks so) 22.15.20 # Err, it's PLUGIN_RAM 22.15.36 # So wmapro is probably simply too big for those targets 22.15.39 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.17.02 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 22.19.02 Quit literal (Client Quit) 22.19.16 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.19.18 # .. for now :) 22.19.46 # New commit by 03funman (r27419): Check if ROCKBOX_LITTLE_ENDIAN and ROCKBOX_BIG_ENDIAN are defined, no which value they have 22.19.52 # New commit by 03funman (r27420): wmapro: don't force little endianness 22.19.59 # New commit by 03funman (r27421): wmapro: silence some warnings related to function prototypes unused in rockbox 22.20.10 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@62.237.32.210) 22.20.37 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 22.21.42 # r27419 build result: All green 22.23.27 # r27421 build result: All green 22.24.51 # SILENCE! 22.25.52 # mt: I changed the wma bitsream stuff IIRC 22.26.12 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@g231106195.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.26.13 # back when I ported it, ffmpeg didn't support static huffman tables, so i hacked up my own to ditch the malloc's 22.26.34 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 22.26.37 # but i think all I need is the get_vlc2 stuff, so it'll probably work with stock ffmpeg bitstream now 22.26.38 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@g231106195.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.26.42 Quit kugel (Changing host) 22.26.42 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.26.50 # hmm no, the vlc table init stuff will be wrong 22.27.03 # how about for now just don't worry about wma, i'll figure it out 22.27.33 # IMO getting the imdct shared with the other codecs is a bigger deal, since that will improve performance and save a lot of memory 22.27.39 # New commit by 03funman (r27422): remove unused CODECLIBS variable from makefile 22.27.46 # New commit by 03funman (r27423): Build wmapro, disabled on targets with less than 2MB of ram 22.29.06 # r27422 build result: All green 22.30.07 # anyway, congrats, but I have to go 22.30.43 # r27423 build result: All green 22.31.09 # funman: wouldn't it be better to check for CODEC_BUFFER_SIZE directly? 22.31.16 # yeah probably 22.31.41 # 320k+230k makes 550k (for ARM) 22.32.10 # typical codec buffer size is 1MB i think 22.32.41 # yep 22.33.05 Quit fyrestorm (Quit: Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!) 22.34.16 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.35.13 # #if CODEC_BUFFER_SIZE < (1<<20) // is ok ? 22.36.41 # why 1MB? 22.36.49 # it needs ~550k 22.38.43 # just because it matches all the targets which can build it 22.39.06 # i want to leave some kind of margin in case wmapro got bigger because of compiler/option/weather change 22.39.51 # why make the limit higher than needed because of potential future changes? 22.40.16 # also remember that AMSv2 has slightly less than 1MB codec buffer 22.40.28 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3EC38.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.40.49 # 640K? 22.41.02 # 'what's needed' is a theorical value 22.41.09 # ah that's right 22.41.50 # it's not theoretical 22.41.59 # it's pretty deterministic actually 22.42.21 # right know we use: 1MB on everything but AMS: 48000 on AMSv1+2MB, 1MB-32kB on AMSv2 22.42.38 # kugel: it might change at each build 22.42.51 # i'll leave it up to you to choose the limit 22.43.08 # I'd just pick 600k 22.43.15 # looks fine 22.43.40 # although i preferred the 640K 'for historical reasons' ;) 22.44.15 # yea, that ought to be enough for every codec 22.45.50 # :) 22.46.14 # funman: isn't codec buffer 320k on amsv1-2mb? 22.46.36 # yes 22.46.44 # 0x48000 22.47.11 # well 288k (320kB - 32kB) 22.52.30 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.53.37 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f054172050.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.54.47 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.57.27 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.57.39 # themes upload.php isn't in svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/www ? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=6b6a31bb27a031054b2b585c99ba8e5d&topic=25266.msg169389;topicseen#msg169389 22.59.09 # funman its at: svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/themes.rockbox.org/trunk/public 23.01.12 # i don't know PHP but perhaps $output is undefined because of the foreach loops not being run (condition always false) ? 23.02.45 # hmmm, do we have the map files of v3.6 builds? 23.03.47 # Buschel: if they're not in the .zip, no 23.04.29 # then we should add them to the .zip 23.04.37 Quit juju2143 (Excess Flood) 23.04.51 # that, or save the .map separately 23.04.56 # (at the time of building the release) 23.05.03 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 23.06.21 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 23.07.39 # domonoky: what's the "private/" dir? (can i share the svn url?) 23.07.42 Join juju2143 [0] (juju2143@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-evxoaiszzwwmbxej) 23.08.21 # funman: sure.. the private dir hosts the not web accessiible part of the themesite.. 23.08.46 # ie the core scripts and config files etc.. 23.08.57 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.09.54 # funman: so the checkwps function which called before it fails in the screen shot is in the private dir in the file themesite.class.php 23.10.18 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053153063.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.10.18 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 23.10.18 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.14.38 # New commit by 03lenzone10 (r27424): Updated italian translation. 23.14.53 # i don't know php anyway :) 23.16.13 # r27424 build result: All green 23.16.26 # funman: from looking at the code, the most likely path for causing this error, if it doesnt find any themefiles in the zip :-) 23.27.22 Join jacekowski [0] (jacekowski@jacekowski.org) 23.27.24 # hello 23.27.49 # i have some offtopic - general hardware hacking question 23.28.55 # i have device with couple testpads, some of these are probably jtag, what would be the best approach to find out which pads are these? 23.29.20 # just blind bruteforce sending halt command and checking when cpu stops? 23.34.10 Join sasha_ [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2D016.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.34.19 Part sasha_ 23.34.31 # jacekowski: the best approach is to not ask offtopic questions in here, htey are more than welcome in #rockbox-community though 23.34.46 Join fml2 [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2D016.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.35.04 # well, this is dev channel which i would think is better place to ask technical question 23.35.35 # Hello. When I do the target build for e200 v1 I get many warnings about signedness of char. Is it known and OK? 23.36.17 # fml2: no, sounds like a toolchain issue, the official builds don't get any warnings 23.36.22 # (usually) 23.36.54 # fml2: which compiler / OS ? 23.36.57 # I just installed the eabi compiler with rockboxdev.sh. All went OK 23.37.24 # funman: Ubuntu 10.04. The compiler is... how can I find out? 23.37.32 # and does configure find it when you run it? 23.37.48 # fml2: arm-elf-eabi-gcc -v 23.38.21 # Bagder: it didn't when I first ran it. That's why I ran rockboxdev. After that I have not run configure again. 23.38.32 # then you should 23.38.43 # fml2: several people ran into very weird issues when installing the new toolchain if the old one was present (in the old path) 23.38.47 # it sets some options depending on the actual version found 23.38.57 # ah, yes 23.39.06 # configure should just error out and not create Makefile 23.39.17 Part jacekowski 23.39.23 # funman: that would be a PITA when testing different compilers 23.39.32 # how so ? 23.39.41 # I now ran configure again and started the build. It seems to recompile everything. 23.39.45 # configure does output a fairly fine warning 23.39.52 # you'd have to patch configure even more 23.40.09 # i have another idea 23.40.53 # funman: ah, you meant if it doesn't find any toolchain at all, not for wrong version etc 23.41.01 # Bagder: where does configure set different options depending on the gcc found? 23.41.19 # by the way: has anybody looked at FS#11473 (New bookmarking option: one per track)? 23.41.24 # no, also for wrong version, provided configure does some stuff depending on the gcc version found 23.41.26 # funman: search for gccnum 23.41.44 # can someone with an AMS target (e.g. fuze v1) check fs#11476 for reproducibility? 23.42.00 # ah it's only about warnings 23.42.09 # right 23.42.22 # funman: but why, it throws a *big* warning in your face 23.42.43 # Buschel: you don't have a patch? 23.42.58 # n1s: yes but fixing the problem (putting the compiler in PATH) isn't enough 23.43.52 # funman: indeed 23.44.03 # I have, but I until now I have nobody who is able to build such and can reproduce the issue 23.44.18 # i have a couple AMS 23.44.40 # well even a couple of couple of couple 23.44.45 # funman: maybe the warning should tell people to reconfigure once they got the toolchaing set up 23.45.23 # if they need to reconfigure, we might as well error out and not create any file 23.46.13 # yes, i agree, for the no cross gcc in path case 23.46.56 # Buschel: i'm heading for bed, remind me next time if you couldn't find a tester 23.47.01 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 23.47.23 # funman: no prob, I also need to have some sleep now 23.48.53 Join jordan`` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 23.55.10 Part domonoky 23.57.23 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939]) 23.58.42 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving)