--- Log for 17.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 12 hours ago 00.01.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.06.26 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 00.09.36 Join storm` [0] (lol@67.196.206.24) 00.09.50 Quit storm` (Client Quit) 00.13.20 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.20.09 Quit petur (Quit: Zzzz) 00.27.03 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 00.30.53 # Is there a way to tell if an old language patch still makes sense? 00.35.40 # learn the language? 00.35.52 # no 00.43.20 Join wideon [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 00.44.02 # hi i have a 2gb colour ipod and it will not format and it will not restore what can i do it only 2gb with colours screen 00.45.13 # u there anyone 00.46.29 Quit wideon (Client Quit) 00.46.35 # anyone took off 00.48.24 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.49.18 Quit Muhd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.55.01 Quit GeekShad0w (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.55.15 Quit mf0102 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01.02.53 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 01.11.07 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.12.30 Quit Tarvis (Quit: /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit) 01.13.46 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 01.14.44 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 01.16.00 # n1s: skimming the code, it looks to me like the windows in wma of size N and element X contain the same values as the IMDCT trig table of size 2*N and element 2*X+1 01.16.27 # so i think we could merge all but the largest table (since there isn't an IMDCT table large enough for the biggest one) 01.17.02 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 01.17.03 # but i'm just skimming the code so I could be wrong 01.23.00 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.23.38 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.32.16 Quit whydoubt (Quit: leaving) 01.35.05 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 01.48.49 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 01.49.58 Join Jennifur [0] (~Andro@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) 01.54.13 Quit bug2000 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.55.59 Quit BHSPitMonkey (*.net *.split) 01.55.59 Quit fdinel (*.net *.split) 01.56.00 Quit scorche|sh (*.net *.split) 01.56.00 Quit maraz (*.net *.split) 01.56.00 Quit Gabe_G23 (*.net *.split) 01.57.22 Quit Jennifur (Quit: Leaving) 01.59.55 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.59.55 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 01.59.55 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 01.59.55 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 01.59.55 Join Gabe_G23 [0] (~gabe@bzflag/player/GabrielG) 02.01.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.05.51 Join bug2000 [0] (~bug@unaffiliated/bug2000) 02.17.18 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 02.33.40 Join M3DLG [0] (~M3DLG@bb-87-81-252-83.ukonline.co.uk) 02.35.57 # New commit by 03bieber (r27451): Theme Editor: Integrated target db with project creation code. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 07.22.51 Join antil33t1 [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 07.22.56 Quit antil33t (Disconnected by services) 07.37.12 Join kraai [0] (~kraai@pool-71-254-176-161.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 07.40.17 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.42.00 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.43.03 # Revision 27446 broke the wma codec build for the Sansa Clip; it now fails to build with "wma.elf section `.bss' will not fit in region `PLUGIN_RAM'" and "region `PLUGIN_RAM' overflowed by 5456 bytes". 07.51.41 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.55.10 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@209.131-ppp.3menatwork.com) 08.01.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.04.39 Join testtttttttttttt [0] (~lolwut@d122-111-89-58.riv15.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 08.07.46 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CCD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.12.06 Quit testtttttttttttt () 08.13.09 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.25.32 Quit binaryhermit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.25.56 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 08.33.05 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 08.35.42 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.35.53 Join jHoNDoE [0] (~irc@ip68-98-28-195.ph.ph.cox.net) 08.36.11 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 08.47.26 Quit binaryhermit (Quit: Leaving) 09.00.13 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 09.02.58 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CCD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.29.37 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 09.29.37 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 09.29.49 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.29.54 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 09.34.27 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.39.52 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCB8E0.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.40.19 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 09.43.12 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.46.40 # New commit by 03mt (r27452): Enable ff_copy_bits in ffmpeg_bitstream.c and put_bits.h and intreadwrite.h to codeclib. 09.48.26 # r27452 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 09.53.18 # New commit by 03mt (r27453): More cleaning for libwmapro; use codeclib's bitstream functions and drop those from the libwmapro. 09.54.55 # r27453 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 10.00.15 # New commit by 03mt (r27454): libwmapro : Rename all FIXED occurrances to int32_t and remove types.h 10.01.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.01.48 # r27454 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 10.01.52 Part jHoNDoE 10.04.35 Join Grahack [0] (~chri@ACaen-156-1-61-180.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.09.03 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 10.09.19 # New commit by 03mt (r27455): libwmapro : remove dead/unneeded code from wma.[ch] 10.09.43 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.10.49 # r27455 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 10.14.03 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-212-246.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.19.08 # New commit by 03mt (r27456): libwmapro no longer needs libm in the sim; update the makefile and README.rockbox. 10.20.09 # the build errors get a bit irritating... 10.20.40 # r27456 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 10.21.59 # iirc n1s knows about it and said he would fix it later. 10.22.17 # yes 10.22.24 # i'm working on it 10.22.52 # great :) 10.23.14 # * mt thinks he can now say : Let the optimisations begin ! 10.25.51 # mt: did you fix the freezes in wmapro? 10.26.15 # what freezes ? 10.27.38 # n1s: btw, the codec buffer on those 3 small mem targets is ~288K ? 10.28.24 # both my sim and h300 froze when i tried wmapro yesterday 10.28.33 # yeah, 288k IIRC 10.29.24 # There are more problems 10.29.43 # libwmapro doesn't even build when crosscompiling for win32, or when compiling on cygwin 10.31.58 # n1s: is your system big endian ? 10.32.59 # amiconn: The problem in that case is in firmware/include/file.h not seeing our sys/types.h 10.33.22 # eh, wait 10.33.38 # New commit by 03nls (r27457): Begin shoehorning wma into the clip codec buffer again. Reduce the static buffer used by init_vlc so that it is no larger than is needed. Make the ... 10.34.02 # mt: not my computer, no 10.34.13 # i'll try again, just to make sure 10.34.20 # Alright 10.35.14 # r27457 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) 10.36.07 # regarding the win32 sim cross compile issue; if the line #include in file.h is changed to #include "../libc/sys/types.h", compilation will continue without errors. (at least that how it worked for me) 10.36.23 # yeah, the sim freezes and starts sucking lots of cpu and i have to kill it so it looks like an endless loop 10.36.44 # i tried with one of the files saratoga added to the test_files 10.36.59 # that's weird 10.37.26 # n1s : which one ? 10.37.34 # It seems to work now 10.37.49 # (r27456) 10.39.47 # Ah, you removed the need for types.h in r27454. That's probably it 10.40.33 # mt: all of them, although the highest bitrate one plays a few seconds first, the others freeze without any sound ever coming out 10.40.41 # Calling a header file the same as a system header is calling for trouble. So it's good that it has been removed 10.41.25 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 10.41.43 # * mt slaps forehead 10.41.54 # never thought of that last night 10.43.52 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.44.32 # n1s: Ah it's failing for me .. I'll see what's that about. 10.46.19 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.46.55 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.47.22 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206241167.chello.pl) 10.49.23 # New commit by 03nls (r27458): Remove unused 2kB buffer and some dead code. 10.50.30 Join bobc [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 10.50.54 # r27458 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) 10.54.02 Join stooo [0] (~sto@g228076060.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.57.33 # New commit by 03nls (r27459): libwma: Reduce size of runtab and levtab buffers, only one set can get the worst case size so make the other set the second worst case size. 10.59.02 # r27459 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) 10.59.54 # does anyone know where i can find a 16kbps wma file to test my last size optimization? 11.01.06 Join webguest83 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 11.01.15 Part stooo 11.02.23 Quit webguest83 (Client Quit) 11.13.57 # New commit by 03mt (r27460): Increase the size of quant table in libwmapro to accomodate more values for exp. Fixes wma pro failure on test files in ... 11.15.25 # r27460 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 11.16.11 Quit bobc (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 11.22.55 # n1s: I can make you a 15kbps or a 19kbps file if you want 11.23.25 # yes! that would be great :) 11.23.53 # i want one that uses lsp, saratoga said that is only used at 16kbps or so 11.27.00 # do we have "flush cache" ata command implemented? 11.28.00 # according to wikipedia lsp is used for less than 17kbps so 15 would be good 11.29.29 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.29.45 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 11.30.53 # n1s: 15k coming your way then :) 11.30.58 # sweet 11.31.32 # there : http://mtarek.com/rockbox/wma_15k.wma 11.32.17 # thanks! 11.32.54 # you're welcome 11.34.58 # Hi all, I just run rockboxdev.sh and encountered a dependency problem. After the fix, the script stopped because I had to delete manually /tmp/rbdev-build/build-binu-e/, then it complain again and I had to delete manually /tmp/rbdev-build/build-gcc-e/. Don't you think it would be nice to call 'cleardir $builddir $arch' it the dirs exist at around line 300 of rockboxdev.sh ? 11.36.59 Join advcomp2019__ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 11.39.55 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.50.37 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 11.55.41 # New commit by 03mt (r27461): Check for errors from decode_packet in wmapro.c 11.57.18 # r27461 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) 12.01.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.16.40 # * JdGordon has a wild stab in the dark and assumes noone who cares about themeing is online? 12.16.51 # I want to change the %Xd() tag... 12.17.25 # how? 12.19.47 # there is no reason to force single letter labels anymore, so that is an easy change, but then how is Xd supposed to handle subimage loading? 12.20.03 # so I want to change to %Xd(label [,subimage NUMBER]) 12.20.23 # subimages for the backdrop? 12.20.33 # xd() 12.20.42 # whateveer the image display tag is 12.21.04 # I could add support to allow people who want %xd(Aa) to keep working fairly easily 12.23.06 # I don't see much of an advantage with this label thing, especially with subimages it makes for a lot longer lines in the code 12.23.57 # because you dont understand the next stepw hcih I explained last time I brought this up... change the subimage part to an enum-able tag 12.24.05 # %xd(shuffle, %ps) 12.24.45 # seperating main "ID" and subimage "ID" with a comma might make sense though probably breaks themes again 12.24.51 # %?ps<%Xd(Sa)|%xd(Sb)> 12.25.18 # I understand the latter much better 12.25.35 # (except %Xd...) 12.26.17 # definetly does 12.33.09 # * JdGordon wont change anything in this mammoth patch and leaves it for later 12.36.01 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.38.45 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.40.02 # New commit by 03nls (r27462): libwma: Reuse a static buffer that was unused while decoding lsp files for some lsp related tables. 12.40.27 # that should do it 12.40.59 # * JdGordon is finshed replacing the old skin parser! 12.41.19 # so testing help needed... or expect lots of bug fix commits 12.41.31 # r27462 build result: 0 errors, 10 warnings (nls committed) 12.41.49 # darnit 12.42.37 # ahaha, the older gcc decided i break strict aliasign, sigh 12.45.39 # (add/remove: 42/26 grow/shrink: 10/19 up/down: 14723/-13000) 12.45.39 # Total: 1723 bytes 12.47.58 # any specific reason it adds something in binsize? Because you said code would be cleaner and more simple, so I'd expect smaller binsize in the end too 12.50.12 Quit GodEater (Remote host closed the connection) 12.50.51 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.52.42 Join Sajber^1 [0] (~Sajber^@h-109-228-137-214.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 12.52.45 Nick Sajber^1 is now known as Sajber^ (~Sajber^@h-109-228-137-214.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 12.53.11 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.53.26 # wtf? did my reply go through? 12.55.41 # doesn't look like it did 12.56.11 # the new parser is about 7K, I'm not down to under 1K added 12.56.51 # the new parser being bieber's libskin_parser 12.57.42 # New commit by 03nls (r27463): libwma: void pointer voodoo to get rid ov strict aliasing warnings 12.59.12 # r27463 build result: All green 12.59.18 # \o/ 12.59.49 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.01.51 # is it better to do a lseek to 0 or open and close the file twice? 13.02.03 # is one much faster than the other? 13.02.07 # I assume seeking is better? 13.02.44 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 13.04.45 # mt: wmapro plays fine in my sim now and seems to play fine on h300, evn the 55k sample is far from realtime though 13.05.00 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.05.50 # n1s: great. How slow is it though on h300 ? Could you do a speed test when you're free ? 13.06.42 # New commit by 03bertrik (r27464): Walloon language update - FS #11039 by Stéphane Quertinmont 13.07.42 # mt: i have one running now 13.08.23 # r27464 build result: All green 13.08.23 Join Sajber^ [0] (~Sajber^@h-109-228-137-214.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 13.08.31 # New commit by 03nls (r27465): Delete unused header 13.08.55 # I keep asking: Are there any objections to commit FS#11324? 13.09.53 # New commit by 03nls (r27466): Oops, revert unintentional commit 13.10.11 # r27465 build result: All green 13.10.22 # n1s: Thanks 13.10.29 # mt: the 55k sample is 63.5% realtime 13.10.43 # wodz: probably not... you'll hear about it on the mailing list if there are :p 13.10.50 # aw .. alright 13.12.30 # wodz, I'm sure it looks nice but to be honest I don't really see the point of beautifying a debug menu 13.12.30 # mt: are you using the codeclib mdct? 13.12.30 # anyway, iram makes a *big* difference on coldfire 13.12.39 # r27466 build result: 33 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) 13.13.31 # ? 13.13.42 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CCD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.13.46 # n1s: no I'm not using codeclib's mdct 13.14.38 # mt: if you do that and some basic iram usage for the hottest data i think it'll make a big difference on cf 13.15.25 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.16.03 # ah, those errors weren't mine 13.17.23 # * JdGordon needs to start fixing checkwps :/ 13.19.02 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@e178058198.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.19.02 Quit kugel (Changing host) 13.19.02 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.21.16 # ah, it's using the codeclib fft for mdct so switching to the codeclib mdct will probably not make such a big speed difference, it will be cleaner though :) 13.21.51 Quit kugel (Client Quit) 13.25.51 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 13.28.41 # mt: what do you think about limiting the wmapro decoder to 2 channels, it will reduce memory requirements greatly and make it easier to use iram, also i don't think we'll see 7.1 channel DAPs any time soon :) 13.29.08 # New commit by 03wodz (r27467): Beautify view_battery() graph in debug menu. FS#11324 by me 13.30.00 # most other decoders do this even if the format supports multichannel 13.30.38 # r27467 build result: All green 13.31.54 # n1s: Actually, I wanted to add a down-mixing feature to the codec .. certainly wasn't relying on the possibility of a 7.1 channel DAP ;) 13.33.32 # ok, maybe a special case can be made for stereo then since i think that is probably the most common 13.33.55 # Yeah 13.36.02 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@e178058198.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.37.12 # good news kugel... my latest patch removes the stupidly crazy buffer alloc stuff :) 13.37.12 Join bimbel [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 13.37.40 Quit bmbl (Disconnected by services) 13.37.44 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 13.38.04 # kugel: That types.h error was fixed. Turned out to be libwmapro's types.h that was causing the trouble. 13.38.48 # New commit by 03wodz (r27468): HD200: Add timeout in usb_enable(false) to prevent infinite loop when something goes wrong. 13.40.28 # r27468 build result: 1 errors, 0 warnings (wodz committed) 13.40.38 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.41.45 # this random build system errors are rather irritating 13.42.29 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@e178058198.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.44.22 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 13.48.42 Quit mt (Remote host closed the connection) 13.49.51 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 13.53.30 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 13.58.10 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 14.01.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.19.29 # bieber: ping 14.25.58 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 14.26.09 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 14.31.05 Quit Grahack (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 14.34.52 # Do we have documentation of the ipod remote FM protocol? 14.37.33 Join stooo [0] (~sto@g228076060.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.39.27 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 14.44.26 Quit maraz (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.46.26 Quit stooo (Quit: Leaving.) 14.48.13 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 14.53.00 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 15.02.57 Quit antil33t1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.03.03 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 15.03.21 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.03.53 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@e178058198.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.06.11 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.06.54 # Who is 'icon guy' in rockbox? 15.07.50 Quit jordan`` (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.09.49 # woohoo! (add/remove: 31/44 grow/shrink: 24/13 up/down: 14036/-14971) 15.10.38 # Total: -935 bytes 15.10.39 # wodz: depends what side of icons you want... 15.11.41 # hehe woops :p ordered the files backwards 15.11.50 # I would like to have simple 2bit 'charging' icon(s) to be used in bootloader 15.14.55 # simplest way is bin2c a bmp and manually draw it with lcd_put_bmp() or whatever that function is 15.16.29 # Thats clear. The hard part is manually draw :-). I am not good with art 15.16.59 # JdGordon: is this against svn head? 15.18.03 # unless I messed up the git svn command 15.18.04 # git svn rebase; no? 15.18.22 # apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_buffer.c is claimed to be reversed 15.18.39 # ignore that file, it is deleted 15.18.42 # Also apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_buffer.h 15.18.44 # ok 15.18.48 # ditto that one 15.21.30 # yeah, not sure what happened, but the trackers output for the diff changed with the last few patches 15.22.33 Quit mt2 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100401213457]) 15.24.44 # JdGordon: it behaves a bit weirdly 15.26.29 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 15.27.11 # JdGordon: when I start playback first it renders the non-AA WPS (AA not found yet presumably), then it switches to the AA variant. When that switch happens, the old conditional viewports are not cleared 15.27.40 # If I then leave the WPS and re-enter it, it's fine (as expected) 15.27.51 # ok, im going to bed, can you put that in the tracker? 15.27.53 # Scrolling seems to be broken 15.28.04 # its probbaly because it starts displaying too quickly and the aa isnt ready yet 15.28.18 # yes, that's clear, but it should clear this later on 15.28.40 # Scrolling *sometimes* works after I stop playback, before it goes back to the menu 15.35.46 # Are there any developers with an ipod fm remote? 15.36.43 # Accessories are not on the RockboxTesting wiki page 15.37.28 Quit Rob2223 (Quit: Rob2223) 15.38.01 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCBB26.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.39.40 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.40.17 # what the heck: http://pastie.org/1048518 15.41.51 # after the compilation it pasted the news into the shell 15.43.16 # hm, was probably my bad 15.43.22 # bertrik: FM remote - You mean FM transmitter? 15.44.32 # no, there is an FM remote accessory for ipods that receives FM 15.44.59 # I see. 15.57.52 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 16.00.59 # Do we have a policy on accepting language patches where the translated text (excepting trivial stuff like "OK") is exactly the same as the english text? 16.01.17 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.01.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.01.43 # I'm looking through some language patches on the tracker and I see this happen for some texts. 16.02.00 # I think those should be avoided 16.02.46 # huh? 16.03.27 # bertrik: do you have an example? 16.03.43 # I don't think you can establish a policy for that. It could be common to use that in the language too 16.03.44 # I think it makes the translation appear more complete than it really is 16.04.05 # not everything differs from English 16.04.08 # gevaerts, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11484 for example 16.04.26 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA0C7.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.05.01 # for example, "" is translated, but "Advanced Tone Control Settings" is not 16.05.43 # Maybe just ask? 16.07.16 # I'd ask about it. But you are correct to be carefull adding those, if they are not translated then adding them would make them not appear as a "still to be translated" phrase and might be forgotten 16.07.34 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.09.18 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rwgast1.cs.uni-saarland.de) 16.09.18 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 16.09.18 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.09.54 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 16.10.29 # Are these literal english translations some kind of side-effect of rasher's translation page if the translator forgets to translate a text? 16.12.58 # bertrik: well the same thing happens if you do it manually and accidentally skip a phrase 16.13.23 # the "problems" page lists these 16.14.37 # ok, r19146 definitely broke simulator defining DEBUG 16.14.50 # bertrik: if it's obvious that they were accidents, I'd apply the patch, then delete the untranslated phrases from the resulting .lang 16.15.44 # rasher, I'll ask first and probably do that when I haven't received a reply in a week or so 16.17.58 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9F0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.20.59 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.28.00 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 16.28.34 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9F0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.35.16 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 16.39.39 # Rockbox translations are doing quite well now, with 22 translations having status "good" or "complete" 16.40.17 Quit JdGordon (Read error: No route to host) 16.46.53 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-41-47.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 16.52.20 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.57.18 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 16.57.28 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 16.57.35 # JdGordon1: You called? 17.01.42 # heh, I just tried out the Finnish translation. "Vapina"? Not that I can think of a better translation for "dithering" (even with the help of a dictionary), but I certainly couldn't tell what that option would do by the name alone 17.01.54 # I guess this is why I hate using stuff translated into my native tongue. 17.05.19 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 17.08.14 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54851884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.08.42 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 17.09.14 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54851884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.12.37 Quit BlakeJohnson861 (Remote host closed the connection) 17.13.50 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.20.15 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.26.41 # AlexP, in r24424 you committed a chinese-simp translation, but are you sure about the name of the author? 17.27.18 # You credited him as Purling Yukie, but his flyspray name is Purling.Nayuki 17.30.10 # the AMSv2 SD controller has a 'Card Clock LP' bit for each card, I suppose LP is Low-Power 17.32.54 # Just guessing, but maybe this bit causes the clock towards the SD card to stop when there is no active communication 17.33.12 # that's my thought too, this bit is only set for newer fuzev2 17.33.38 # New commit by 03kugel (r27469): Prettier genlang-features output. Use the same style for max_language_size.h. 17.35.25 # r27469 build result: All green 17.40.30 # new fuzev2 also seems to have different button mapping 17.41.32 # noooooooooooooooo! 17.42.10 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.42.49 # funman: fuzev3? 17.43.11 # saratoga proposed fuzev2.5 17.43.21 # too long 17.43.55 # v2+ 17.46.11 # what is the firmware rev ? 17.46.55 # 2.3.31 or newer 17.47.45 # do they use different USB PID/VID so the Rockbox Utility could tell them apart? 17.48.08 # I don't know, but why would that be needed? 17.48.55 # Sandisk use the same firmware for all the fuzev2, we can do the same 17.49.25 # * bertrik agrees with funman 17.49.26 # maybe jsut for the info then 17.49.31 # *just 17.50.05 # sorry, I thought for a second that it'll need a different install procedure or a different build 17.50.34 # USB ids seem to be the same 17.53.09 # funman, do you know how you can detect whether a fuze v2 is the old or the new one? 17.53.52 # yes, if you need to use mkamsboot from svn it's the new one 17.54.22 # simpler: if you can't downgrade OF below 2.3.31. Also all the new Fuzev2 seem to have the same serial number 17.59.02 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.59.30 Nick hebz0rl_ is now known as hebz0rl (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-212-246.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.01.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.06.18 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.53) 18.06.50 Join halmi_ [0] (~netbook@188-22-116-232.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 18.09.40 Quit halmi (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.12.42 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.18.47 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-182-55-232.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 18.20.23 # are seven lines added to the comment ok for a merely 3 line change in the code? It adds some info that could have been there before even without the change though 18.20.59 # depends what the comment says 18.21.22 # if it's useful info which can't be shortened then it can fill a full page, no problem 18.22.10 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.23.09 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.25.51 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 18.26.27 # that's the diff: http://pastebin.com/axEX0fir 18.27.33 # pixelma: go for it 18.28.00 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-142-52-201.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 18.29.27 # ok, thanks for your opinion :) 18.43.07 # bertrik: ah FlynDice already set the LP bits in r25936 18.44.43 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.146) 18.45.55 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.49.36 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27470): Manual: add another possible parameter to screenshot names: 'seriesimg' to be able to use screenshots for manuals of the same series (e.g. all Clips) ... 18.51.06 # r27470 build result: All green 18.56.07 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.57.17 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 18.58.00 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27471): Manual: add the new \seriesimg option to the 3 different Clip's platform files and rename all _screenshots_ which have 'sansaclip' in their name so ... 18.58.26 # argh 18.59.34 # r27471 build result: All green 18.59.49 Join ELM [0] (~bombtibet@c-67-168-129-213.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 19.01.52 # Hello I have a sansa e260R that I already have rockbox on, I am trying to upgrade it. Do I need to do all the steps I did before, or can I just do step 9 onwards from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows (unzip the new rockbox build)? 19.03.40 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27472): Oops, r27471 only contained the delete part of the 'svn rename' - commit the second part and actually add the screenshots (again :\ ) 19.05.20 # ELM: check the manual, it should be explained in a simpler way 19.05.31 # r27472 build result: All green 19.11.02 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27473): Set \specimg to sansaclipplus again for the Clip+ so that it uses the correct player image (screenshots will still be correct due to \seriesimg - ... 19.12.36 # r27473 build result: All green 19.16.11 # FlynDice: I'll have some questions for you about AMSv2 SD (the cards are used a bit differently in some newer Fuzev2) 19.16.25 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206241167.chello.pl) 19.17.20 # that should have been 11480, damnit 19.18.03 # and one of the "r"s is wrong too :\ 19.19.06 # and no means (server side) to edit commit messages yet, afaik 19.19.25 # just require a swede to change an option no? 19.20.28 # http://subversion.apache.org/faq.html#change-log-msg explains how to enable the needed pre-revprop-change hook 19.23.00 # pixelma: which button description is wrong ? (FS#11480) 19.23.37 # everything that differs from the "usual" Clip's button mapping 19.23.54 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.24.14 # e.g. what mc2739 mentioned - Home+Select twice in the WPS key controls button table 19.24.17 # i mean in which section of the manual, 3.1.1 The player's controls looks ok 19.24.49 # at least I *assume* the the same thing is not mapped twice 19.25.08 # err... the same mapping is used for two different things 19.25.29 # * pixelma should take a break or have another coffee or so :/ 19.25.46 # or both: a break with a coffee ;) 19.27.18 # indeed 19.28.13 # Home + Select is both: return to wps, and softlock 19.28.28 # return to WPS doesn't matter 19.29.19 # in the WPS button table it says Home+Select would also be Play/Pause 19.30.02 # New commit by 03funman (r27474): manual: Play/Pause button for Clip keymap is 'Play' ... 19.30.34 # aha, so there are no differences in the keymaps? 19.30.53 # no, except an additional combination for softhold 19.31.15 # ok, sorry for assumptions then :\ 19.31.16 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 19.31.24 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CCD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.31.25 # r27474 build result: All green 19.32.28 # then the bug report can be closed because the softhold will not appear in the other Clips' manuals because it is excluded for all targets that have the hold switch 19.33.03 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@64.134.138.42) 19.34.01 # did that too ;) 19.35.04 # * FlynDice apologizes for being out of touch for awhile and warns funman against expectations leading to disappointment.... But I will try my best ;) 19.35.42 # FlynDice: hello! :) 19.36.37 Join storm` [0] (lol@67.196.206.24) 19.36.48 Quit storm` (Client Quit) 19.37.01 # well i think i should describe my findings and symptoms because i don't have a precise question to ask .. 19.37.25 # sure 19.37.58 # the new fuzev2 only clears/set the bit 1 of MCI_PWREN afaict 19.38.27 # funman: a little digging in the SVN history could have pointed the problem that I fixed now earlier. The one I actually meant - r27091 - was changing \specimg back to sansaclip to use the screenshots, it reverted the change in r25344 which was to use the Clip+ player images 19.38.40 # and always sets the bit 16 in send_cmd (which indicates card 1, which is used for µSD on other fuzev2/clip+) 19.39.18 # i'm not sure what this means for µSD but for now i'm trying to get internal storage working (for the bootloader) 19.40.09 # ah, i have a precise question: any reason why you enable the LP bits of CLKENA only after card init? the new fuzev2 OF seems to do that at init, at the same time than enabling the cards 19.42.31 # for now all I can get is response timeout, so i have some work to do in send_cmd() / init_controller() 19.44.14 # I think when I tried enabling them before init it didn't work, the cards wouldn't init properly iirc. I'm not smart enough to figure out exactly what the OF did but I did see that it used these bits in several functions so tried them out. 19.44.42 # hmm ok, do you remember the symptom if you set them too early? perhaps that could give me a hint 19.45.03 # There was also the mention of a low power mode in one of the "briefs" I found and I figured that this was some type of low power bit 19.45.29 # I don't remember what happened, just failure.... 19.50.01 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.50.07 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 19.58.17 # funman: In looking at the clip+ disassembly that I was using there's a function that sets the LP bits using the card pattern derived from MCI_HCON which would be both cards not just the uSD if that helps at all? 20.00.24 # I wonder if we can have another go at reducing core voltage now that the microsd timings are supposed to be solved 20.01.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.06.42 # Is widebus still causing problems with amsv1 internal sd writes? 20.07.11 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 20.08.52 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 20.11.18 # FlynDice: yeah i think this 'pattern' is the model variant, there seems to be 'newer Clip+' just like the 'newer fuzev2' 20.11.38 # FlynDice: yep but lowering the speed to 12.5MHz seems to help 20.13.51 # bor_ka posted a description in the forum 20.14.23 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.14.45 # when this is fixed in svn, we could release new bootloader for AMSv1, and then a new mkamsboot which doesn't dualboot on USB plug but only on button press 20.16.36 # I was thinking HCON was short for hardware configuration for the number of sd's, that hypothesis seemed to be consistent with the code in the linux patch and the OF disassembly, are you saying it seems to be different with the new fuze variant? 20.18.39 # not exactly, because the number of cards extract from HCON is used in CLKENA 20.19.00 # i spent only a day on this so i might have read it wrong of course 20.19.56 # http://pastie.org/1048669 < here is my current diff if it makes sense 20.26.33 # In MCI_COMMAND = .... /*b20:16 */ you seem to set 1<<16 which I don't think sounds right, that's the LP bit not the card, but you may have a reason? 20.27.27 # in MCI_COMMAND that's the card bit, LP bit is in CLKENA 20.27.33 # and the reason is 'OF does it' 20.27.50 # perhaps not for all commands though, I need to double check this 20.29.42 # FlynDice: which clip+ OF are you disassembling? 1.02.09 ? 20.29.49 # I think for MCI_CMD you don't want the <<16 20.30.11 # It's the first update that was released 20.30.12 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.30.27 # that's the one 20.31.02 # see sub_4294 20.31.11 Quit juju2143 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.31.26 # for cmd5 (dunno what it is but we don't use it in rockbox) 20.31.53 # depending on what's in byte 213CD the MCI_COMMAND is orr'd with card_num << 16, OR 1 <<16 20.32.31 # is 4294 thumb or regular arm? 20.32.40 # ARM 20.32.43 Join webguest17 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.32.44 # thx 20.33.35 # it's in the table at 0x8D7C : { int cmd; void *cmd_prepare_func; void *resp_handler_func; // not too sure about this last one } 20.34.13 Quit webguest17 (Client Quit) 20.34.45 # this byte (0x213CD) also seems to affect the OF version check in firmware upgrade, like the fuzev2 20.35.14 # so far there was a report of Clip+ not upgrading with patched firmware on the forum but the guy didn't confirm if mkamsboot from svn performed the upgrade or not 20.36.13 # hmm I recognize that byte.... I'll be a bit of time looking.... 20.37.42 # it's used in OF upgrade in usb_functio (loaded at 0x302fbada), see the 'V' '0' '1' '.' a few lines below 20.37.46 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@ool-4a5909aa.dyn.optonline.net) 20.43.02 Join stooo [0] (~sto@g228076060.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.44.45 # it's funny that the Clip+ OF (depending on the 'model') checks if the to-be-patched-OF is >= 01.02.09, as Sandisk didn't release earlier firmwares 20.45.18 # FlynDice: if you want to spend time on this, I can send you the fuzev2 20.47.25 # funman: That wouldn't be a good idea, I've got next to no spare time now unfortunately, I just happen to have an hour or so right now to "play".... 20.47.38 # that was the right hour then ;) 20.47.50 # I hope so! 20.48.39 Quit evilnick_ (Quit: evilnick_) 20.50.09 Quit hebz0rl (Read error: No route to host) 20.51.26 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27475): Manual: add \seriesimg to the OndioFM's and OndioSP's platform file and use it to clean up some Ondio specific screenshots. There are a few 'different ... 20.53.04 # r27475 build result: All green 21.02.01 # FlynDice: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25184.msg169221#msg169221 21.03.58 Quit bieber (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.07.21 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 21.09.00 # funman: thx I believe 0x213CD holds the info for which drive is being addressed, and I think 0 is used for the internal and 2 is used for the uSD, I'm still working on tracking down the 2 reference though. 21.09.45 # hmm could be that, in fuzev2 this byte is set to the value of GPIOB_PIN5 21.10.08 # i've seen it set only at initialization though 21.12.15 # adressed was not a good choice of words there, manipulated is a better one... 21.15.09 Quit antil33t () 21.21.23 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 21.29.36 # funman: Time's up for me now but I will try to look at this over the next few days when I can squeeze it in. 21.30.08 Quit FlynDice (Remote host closed the connection) 21.31.45 Part stooo 21.44.14 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.47.40 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA03B.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.50.18 # kugel: you want to work on the new fuzev2? 21.50.40 # not really. not until gsoc is over anyway 21.51.03 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.54.11 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 21.54.36 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.59.16 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.01.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.03.43 # bertrik: are you interested? 22.06.28 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.07.13 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 22.12.57 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.13.07 Quit dfkt_ (Client Quit) 22.18.19 # funman, yes, but I think you're much better at it than I am, especially the SD card stuff 22.19.32 # the new fuze v2 isn't too different from the old fuze v2 I hope 22.35.01 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.45-ppp.3menatwork.com) 22.35.32 Quit mt (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.10/20100504093643]) 22.35.35 Quit kisak (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.36.18 Join kisak [0] (~kisak@c-98-235-209-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 22.52.30 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.56.33 Quit notlistening (Quit: Leaving) 22.57.54 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 23.02.10 Join sadzior [0] (~sadzior90@83.16.180.158) 23.06.10 Quit jordan` (Read error: No route to host) 23.06.46 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 23.06.48 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.07.44 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 23.10.39 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@my.fastsh.it) 23.18.47 # hello 23.24.37 Part sadzior 23.26.32 Join juju2143 [0] (juju2143@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-clprmogdkbhbryia) 23.27.21 Quit literal (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.43.21 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 23.46.13 Join phazei [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 23.46.43 # does rockbox have the ability to rate songs? 23.46.58 # . 23.47.21 # test 23.48.31 Quit phazei (Client Quit) 23.48.40 Quit evilnick- (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.58.16 Quit simonrvn (Quit: .)