--- Log for 24.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 12 hours ago 00.02.04 # uh, building the database with the HVSC on the player takes a while :) 00.04.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.05.58 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00.06.46 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27535): Introduce macros for identical multiply-add blocks. 00.08.24 # r27535 build result: All green 00.11.40 # Buschel: that multiply-add loop would probably see quite a large speedup from proper coldfire asm 00.12.28 # yep, just trying to set this up. would of course stop it if you would drop in :o) 00.12.51 # because I cannot test it by myself and would need to ask you for your help again ;) 00.13.09 # heh, no problem, i'm not going to touch it :) 00.16.33 # using movclr right after a mac instruction using the same accumulator will stall for 1 cycle (IIRC) so that loop has an overhead of 2 cycles per multiply for fetching the result plus one for accumulating when the accumulation could be done for free in the acc and the result needs only to be fetched once since only 2 acc's are used 00.18.55 # not to mention movem and emac parallell loads... 00.23.31 # n1s: old motorola asm? 00.23.36 # heh good old memories =) 00.24.00 # delt: yeah, some of our targets have coldfire cpus 00.25.05 # hehe, so did the first mac's (mac plus, mac classic) ...but those were basic 68000's 00.25.48 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.26.53 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@2.81.143.87) 00.27.35 # hmm, that atrac codec doesn't set the mcsr so it's likely output garbage if something sets it to integer mode... 00.27.42 # *macsr 00.28.57 # i think the term 'coldfire' comes from "ah, let's burn all this old computer junk lying under 25 years of dust in the attic" then *cough cough* wtf, campfire wet out?? is it raining? "no, those m68k's were too 'cool' back in the day, so they put out the fire!" 00.29.05 # ok bad one =) 00.29.15 # n1s: maybe it is better, if you take over the asm optimization for coldfire 00.29.18 # heh 00.30.06 # iirc those were also used in the c64 and next few amiga's, but boosted to 15MHz instead of the normal 7.5 00.30.10 # Buschel: ok, i'll try to take a look at that next week 00.30.55 # i wonder if there are any test files for it on the server 00.32.03 # you may use this as a starting point -> http://www.pastebin.org/413862 00.32.28 # i wonder if there's ANY hardware anywhere in existence that supports that atrac "codec" ..... other than those sony CD walkmans from 7-8 years ago 00.33.10 # n1s: link to samples -> http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/real/AC-atrc/ 00.33.11 # i still have the cd that came with one of those somewhere, saw it the other day 00.33.40 # Buschel: ah, nice 00.34.15 Join RockboxDev1 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 00.35.33 # delt, atrac was *the* codec used for minidisc, but that's a bit off-topic for this channel 00.35.55 Quit ender` (Quit: The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'. -- Larry Hardiman) 00.36.51 Quit joecool (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.37.13 # Hello, I am new to developing rockbox. I noticed that the rockbox application is nearly a month old now. When is the rockbox community going to release an update? 00.38.05 # svn is updated several times per day 00.38.13 # don't know the schedule of official releases 00.38.32 # RockboxDev1: by "the rockbox application" do you mean the rockbox-as-an-application project or something else? 00.38.59 # bertrik: minidiscs werent that popular in Canada 00.39.43 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 00.39.43 Quit RockboxDev1 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 00.39.53 # but being developed by Sony, not surprising the same codec would show up (years later) in their "walkman" cd-mp3 players and such 00.43.35 # aha, even more fun, the sample i found doesn't play at all if the macsr is set to fractional and outputs whitenoise if it's set to integer... 00.43.36 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 00.44.10 # ha, now it plays, how weird 00.44.14 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.47.29 # minidisks weren't popular anywhere as far as I know 00.48.02 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.49.05 # * Buschel owned the very first MD-player that was sold in Bremen (norther Germany) -- a MZ-1. 00.49.31 # a crappy unit that I used for 1 week and then brought it back for repair (several weeks) 00.49.48 # followed by another 1 week usage and another several weeks repair 00.50.07 # anyway, bitrate for standard CD (uncompressed) would be 176400 * 16 (bits per sample) == 352800 ?? 00.50.12 # then I received a new unit and sold it 00.50.28 # CD has 1.4 Mbit 00.50.34 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@173-112-236-188.pools.spcsdns.net) 00.50.44 # 44.100 Hz * 2 channels * 16 bit 00.50.51 # DUH 00.51.08 # ok, so i multiplied the bit depth twice...... : 00.51.58 # * delt -> brain.ability_to_concentrate--; 00.52.52 # hmm the coldfire fixmul16 in libatrac is buggy, it modifies a register specified as input :/ 00.53.11 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.53.26 # btw, how many copies of fractional multiply functions do we have? 00.53.43 # well, i -used- to be a "not too bad" coder.... like 15 years ago :/ 00.54.30 # it could also clobber one register less without taking more cycles 00.54.37 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 00.54.51 # n1s: every codec defines their own, i think the core has only one set 00.55.01 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 00.55.28 Quit madalu (Remote host closed the connection) 00.55.40 # saratoga: most of them should be identical, i think this should be merged together in one header in the codec lib 00.55.55 # i don't really see any point 00.56.08 # they're typically 2-3 instructions long 00.56.59 # at least the coldfire fixmul16 in libatrac is both buggy and suboptimal, that would be less likely if we had only one implementation 00.57.42 Quit milz (Remote host closed the connection) 00.58.02 # it's the same penalties that come with code duplication everywhere 00.58.15 Quit delt (Quit: Cogito, ... uh, ergo.... sumthin.) 00.58.55 # n1s: if it is buggy and suboptimal you could also change MUL_R in libfaad and MPC_MULTIPLY in libmusepack. all three are nearly identical 00.59.13 # see :) 00.59.40 # _nearly_ :o) 01.01.41 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 01.02.16 # the bug might be irrelevant though, it depends on the usage, but basically, when these macros use mulu they clobber [x] which is specified as an input so gcc will assume it's unchanged and if it is needed again it will have the wrong contents 01.02.36 # [x] is also shifted 01.03.30 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.03.38 Nick Strife89 is now known as Strife89_Desktop (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-144.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.05.21 Join BlakeJohnson861 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.06.58 # is possible add a external microphone to a sansa e2xx? 01.07.08 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.07.11 # what tablets other than "iRiver" can be good for recording? 01.07.44 # testing a build made with gcc 4.4.4 on my h300 has gone well so far playback/fm/recording and a few plugins i tried all seem fine 01.07.56 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.08.16 # database built too 01.08.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.09.31 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.10.33 # how can I compare between the recorders of the tablets? 01.12.03 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 01.16.02 Join mt_ [0] (~mtee@41.234.33.243) 01.16.51 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.16.52 Nick mt_ is now known as mt (~mtee@41.234.33.243) 01.18.49 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 01.21.24 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.22.10 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-144.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.22.17 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 01.22.42 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]) 01.27.50 Quit milz (Remote host closed the connection) 01.30.12 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 01.34.56 Join amiconn_m [0] (~amiconn@p579EA9BE.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.35.50 Quit milz (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.37.55 # hmm, something is strange about this, the atract codec gives me codec_failure most times if i try to play a file while another file is playing 01.39.31 Quit amiconn_m (Quit: Leaving) 01.41.44 Join amiconn_m [0] (~amiconn@p579EA9BE.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.43.31 Quit amiconn_m (Client Quit) 01.44.42 # anyway, setting the macsr fixes the whitenoise bug at least 01.47.24 # New commit by 03nls (r27536): libatrac: Set the emac mode on coldfire, fixes whitenoise output if playing an atrac file after using a codec that sets macsr to integer mode. 01.49.04 # r27536 build result: All green 01.54.37 Join Broam [0] (~brian@c-98-204-130-63.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 01.57.04 Quit fischju (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.59.12 Part Broam 02.01.41 Join stripwax__ [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 02.01.52 Join omgitsmisha [0] (~Misha@bas1-brampton37-2925499884.dsl.bell.ca) 02.04.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.04.53 Quit stripwax (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.07.01 # How long should a fuzev2 typically take to boot Rockbox for the first time? 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Can anyone give me a hand with a problem I'm having with my rockbox update 11.38.41 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.39.23 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@122.110.231.130) 11.40.03 Join VoivoD [0] (~chatzilla@host-109-107-15-7.ip.jarsat.pl) 11.41.44 # Hi. Im having a problem identifying particular sandisk model. Im confused about c200 series and c200 v2(which is unsupported by now). Can you tell me which model this is: http://allegro.pl/item1149478265_okazyjnie_sandisk_c250_2gb_odtwarzacz_mp3_dyktafon.html ?? 11.46.18 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f050205118.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.46.24 Part stooo 11.46.37 # it's impossible to tell for sure from a picture. The only sure way is to find out about the version number of the original firmware, if you can ask the seller. 11.46.58 Join stripwax_ [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 11.47.39 # OutlawRamRod - can you describe the problem specifically and someone here might be able to help 11.48.41 Quit stripwax (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.50.10 # Ok here is my problem. I've got an ipod 4th gen 30 gb which I used successfully with rockbox up til version 3.2. I've tried to upgrade to 3.6 but I constantly get an error when loading rockbox. I've got the rb bootloader v4.0 on part. 1 but I keep getting the error message 'can't load rockbox.ipod; bad checksum" I've tried both the automated installer as well as installing manually. I even reinstalled the bootloader but nothing seems to work. 11.50.26 # Firmware 01.01.05 11.50.27 # The 'a' in the word "sansa" is the same as on my c200v1, the 'a' on newer sansas looks a bit different. But this is no guarantee. 11.50.33 # that is said on the auction 11.53.46 Join MichaelVBerry [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 11.54.27 # Im' looking to be able to add to the Wiki pls 12.02.24 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 12.04.26 # recorder/bmp.h and plugins/lrcplayer.c test for #ifdef HAVE_LCD_REMOTE which is not defined anywhere, HAVE_REMOTE_LCD is used everywhere else 12.04.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.04.48 # haha 12.06.09 # ah, that bmp.h think only guards a macro that isn't used anywhere so fixing that is easy 12.06.29 # i'll just assume lrcplayer intended to use the correct define too 12.07.01 # n1s, I think there are probably many more useless #includes 12.08.14 # MichaelVBerry, I think I can add you if I remember how :) 12.08.30 # Is MichaelVBerry your real name? 12.09.23 # VoivoD, that firmware version indicates a c200v1 12.09.43 # ok thanks, one more question 12.09.56 # where i can find differences between v1 and v2 ? 12.10.16 # feature ones and technical ones 12.11.13 # I signed up with my first name as MichaelV and surname as Berry 12.12.12 # ok, I think that's fine 12.13.40 # Thanks 12.13.48 # What topic are you planning on editing? 12.14.13 # I have rockbox running on a Philips 1620 12.17.14 # OutlawRamRod - some ideas: 1. run a chkdsk/scandisk/fsck.vfat/etc on your ipod to check for a bad filesystem; 2. redownload the rockbox.zip and unzip onto your ipod (or re-run the installer); 3. make sure you "disconnect safely" from windows before unplugging the ipod (icon in bottom right of windows systray) 12.18.21 # MichaelVBerry, you should have wiki edit rights now 12.19.17 # VoivoD, I don't know if we have a direct comparison between the two. The v2 hardware can basically do anything the v1 can do, I think sandisk made sure of that. 12.20.08 # The c200v2 processor can run a lot faster (240 MHz instead of 80 MHz) 12.21.54 # What do people think of patches like http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/9305 (Context sensitive backlight on key press) 12.21.55 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.24.08 # [11:09:04] i have no idea what causes this weird codec failure with atrac3_rm on my h300... <= endianness issue? 12.24.33 # Personally I feel like it's a lot of code for yet-another-special-case with respect to the user interface 12.26.06 # @bertrik, is this processor speed will degrade rockbox usefulness/features or give problems with playbacks ? 12.28.07 # No, rockbox runs fine on the 80 MHz c200v1. This 80 MHz is plenty for nearly all codecs (mp3 requires something like 25 MHz for example). 12.29.21 Join mrkiko [0] (~mrkiko@host128-255-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.30.35 # There will be lossless APE files that you cannot play because the player is too slow, but this APE codec is a bit of a special case in its ability to create files that are very CPU intensive 12.31.48 # i mainly want to play musepack 12.34.11 # According to our wiki pages, musepack runs efficient and realtime on these kind of players 12.34.36 # and what about realtime effects like eq etc ? 12.34.42 # no problem with those too ? 12.37.43 # They work, although I never use them personally 12.40.08 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CD1D.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.40.17 # bertrik: I'm not sure I'm too much of a fan of FS#9305, IMO, if you use the player the backlight should come on without exception...but, that's me. 12.40.46 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC57FAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.40.56 # It is an awful lot of code for what it does also. 12.41.23 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 12.41.37 Quit stripwax_ (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 12.41.55 # Hmmm, more specific: s/use the player/alter a setting, etc./ 12.48.19 # amiconn: that could be it of course but it's strange that it works sometimes i think... 12.48.55 # maybe something with the alignment of buffers 12.50.43 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f050205118.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.50.57 # also i don't really know how to debug that... 12.52.00 # New commit by 03nls (r27539): s/HAVE_LCD_REMOTE/HAVE_REMOTE_LCD/ 12.52.19 Quit stooo (Client Quit) 12.53.05 # * JdGordon1 yells loudly at apps/gui/skin_engine_skin_display.c 12.53.22 # why the bloody hell do progressbars draw in the default viepwort when other vp's are enabled! they bloody shouldnt! 12.53.43 # r27539 build result: All green 12.54.00 # New commit by 03nls (r27540): Missed one. 12.54.29 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.55.41 # r27540 build result: All green 12.56.10 # n1s, if the #ifdef was wrong, then nobody must be using that function yet 12.56.28 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 12.57.07 # bertrik: it's in plugin_load() so it should have run before starting a plugin but didn't 12.57.42 # oh sorry, I somehow thought that was a function exposed by the plugin API (need coffee) 12.58.54 # now any guesses as to where having HAVE_REMOTE_LCD defined and still having NB_SCREENS == 1 causes rockbox to hang while booting? 13.00.09 # all the theme loading stuff 13.00.13 # including icons, fonts 13.00.20 # urg 13.00.23 # actually no, other way around 13.01.34 # other way around how? 13.01.38 Quit giovanni__ (Quit: CGI:IRC) 13.01.57 # all that stuff should be looping on NB_SCREENS so it should be ok 13.02.30 # setting_apply() might have issues 13.02.53 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f050205118.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.03.11 # ah shit, no... theme_settings.c 13.03.12 # I would expect screen_init to break in that situation 13.03.27 Part stooo 13.03.27 # this is when logf is stealing the remote lcd? 13.04.26 # Hmm, in that situation probably not 13.04.55 # bertrik, what size(gb) of memory card you use ? 13.05.05 # on that sandisk c200v1 13.05.13 # * amiconn thought n1s is doing experiments where main lcd is undefined 13.05.44 # 4GB 13.05.57 # amiconn: no i actually tried to build a logf build on my h300, that sets NB_SCREENS to 1 and uses the remote for the log 13.06.09 # pixelma: S_a_i_n_t: re documenting the tags... if we agree that the xml is the way to go (I dont see a technical reason to not do it) then really the only thing needed is to fill out the file... the scripts to convert that to useable stuff is simple in comparisson 13.06.43 # there is also a few ays to go about that, but the best way would be by hand so we make sure it is all correct and up to date 13.07.20 # in which case all that is needed is volunteer time 13.07.31 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitar_st@BSN-182-62-10.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 13.08.03 # there are about 180 tags to fill out, most would be pretty quick 13.08.21 # A focus on slightly more verbose definitions would be nice. 13.08.44 # because of the size of the work though noone wants to start unless we are 100% certain this is what we want 13.08.57 # For some of the tags it's kinda hard to explain what they can do in a concise way though. 13.09.07 # * JdGordon1 is happy to write a script to to the boiler plate stuff 13.09.30 # * amiconn doesn't understand why JdGordon1 wants to use xml for tag documentation 13.10.15 # The other thing I was thinking with the script is tag groupings. 13.10.21 # amiconn: do you have a better idea? the point is that it means if any tag changes there is one file which needs to be updated instead of 3,4,etc 13.10.32 # to get it available for "multi-platform" -> theme editor, the manual, (maybe the wiki)? All generated from one file 13.10.51 # they are grouped in a fairly sane way in the manual, but if parsed straight from the list it will be some fairly random ordoer...no? 13.11.03 # *order 13.11.11 # S_a_i_n_t: did you see my pastebin on thursday night? I added a group attribute 13.11.25 # Ah, no..I missed that, sorry. 13.11.29 # no, there is a "group"parameter in the proposed xml which can be used 13.11.36 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 13.11.57 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.12.05 # http://pastebin.com/QW8VzH4s 13.12.06 # attrinbute that's what I meant 13.12.36 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.12.49 # If someone opened a google doc, and handed out permission to those that cared to do so, definitions/descriptions for 180 tags could be done in a relatively short time. 13.13.05 # thats what I was hopiong to hear :) 13.13.16 # that is the ideal way to do it for the start 13.13.27 # Fine with me. 13.13.39 # the nice thing about google docs is that everyone can edit usually IIRC 13.13.51 # correct. 13.15.25 # ok, I'll quickly do a script to dump the boilerplate stuff from the code 13.16.18 # I could try merging the LaTeX code in if that is really wanted, but not sure how good that would be 13.17.01 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-210-255-88.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 13.17.17 # hmm, maybe this thing could be debugged in the sim at least :) 13.19.48 # ah, it seems it's loading a remote backdrop 13.22.23 Join stripwax_ [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.22.39 Quit stripwax_ (Client Quit) 13.24.41 # Well, I can't really do *anything* (usefull) regarding the scripting stuff behind this skin tag thing, but once there's an editable base to work off, I'll be happy to spend my free time editing descriptions/examples for the known tags. 13.25.04 # With 3~4 of us working on said list, even for a small amount of time it won't take very long. 13.25.26 # it doesnt need an examples field thingy does it? 13.25.40 # IMO, yes. 13.25.47 # for every one? 13.25.50 # thats just silly 13.26.18 # description, example. It seems silly to us, but, when you're learning, you really need it. 13.26.28 # it stops it from being so intimidating. 13.26.55 # I remember being thankful for the tags that had clear code examples myself. 13.27.23 # I think with much more verbose help in general they wont be needed 13.27.49 # would a table with descriptive fields do? 13.28.04 # It'd still be nice to have IMO, but, if I'm blatantly outvoted, then I'll learn to live with it :P 13.28.42 # I just think that a code example for each tag, unless it's BLATANTLY obvious how to use it, would be a good thing. 13.29.21 # pixelma: ? 13.30.55 # table with columns for "tag" "group" "description" and whatever is needed, then convert the xml from it? 13.32.07 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host16-217-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.32.10 # that would work.. I was gonig to try doing it directly from the .tex file 13.33.55 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.38.34 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.39.23 # if you know how to do it, why not (I can imagine that sometimes examples get in the way, IIRC the ones for viewports even come from external files). I was only thinking about collecting the info and have a completl list of tags 13.39.30 # New commit by 03nls (r27541): Fix FS#11204 logf build on h300 hung on bootup 13.40.27 # pixelma: ok, no I'm now confused about what your talking about.. examples or pulling the current descriptions? 13.41.01 # pulling the current descriptions from tex as you said 13.41.09 # r27541 build result: All green 13.42.44 # yeah, na, should be easy enough... I'm done with the pulling from the .c file so we'll see how easy it is 13.43.33 Quit AndyI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.44.29 # the & is the table column seperator in tex? 13.44.37 # just that some descriptions contain examples.... hmm... probably not in a tag table 13.44.38 # i.e \config{\%iA} & Album Artist\\ 13.44.39 # yes 13.45.00 # the \\ is the "new row" 13.45.26 # OK, I was going to just get the values from those tables, and the grouping, the extra text will need to be added manually, but that is much easier 13.45.52 Join slck [0] (Venci@Slackware.SlackPix.Com) 13.45.56 # \% is just escaping the % as it marks a comment in tex otherwise 13.46.08 # I see 13.46.25 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 13.48.06 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 13.48.30 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 13.50.14 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f50e2.pool.mediaWays.net) 13.53.19 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.58.24 # hmm... there is no specific feature for the "Digital" in the source setting for recordings It's included in all recording targets but only a few will show it (H100s and the Recorders). It's ust one string though and a short one too so I'm not sure if it's worth it to include one 13.59.01 # included in the .lng and .voice files 13.59.09 # adding it will break voice files, the usual conundrum :p 14.00.43 # it's not that bad anymore since we have daily built voices 14.01.25 # any perl wizards awake? 14.01.32 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 14.02.20 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 14.04.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.08.37 Quit AndyI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.14.05 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 14.19.57 Quit mrkiko (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.20.21 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.21.53 Join mrkiko [0] (~mrkiko@host128-255-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.22.28 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@adsl-76-203-30-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 14.23.06 Quit MichaelVBerry (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 14.28.37 # pixelma: on second thoughts.. can you convert the tex to something simpler please? I'm not having much luck 14.29.08 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f050205118.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.29.13 Quit stooo (Client Quit) 14.29.31 # holy cow! the generated html is worse than the tex! 14.32.45 # I believe there was a way to generate a text file from it but I never tried and don't know how tables look there 14.34.32 # make manual-txt 14.34.44 # according to the wiki 14.35.10 # I dont have tex installed and cant install it atm. can you do it and see what its like? 14.35.41 # I'll try 14.36.10 # * JdGordon1 has no idea why his script isnt working though :( 14.36.26 # I'm getting maybe 1:10 tags from the .text 14.36.28 # -t 14.38.56 # * pixelma is considering adding a "digital-in" feature - microphone and line-in is already covered 14.39.09 # even if it is just for the manual as a start 14.39.55 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@84.25.7.202) 14.41.53 # JdGordon1: can't try as the linux machine I have access to doesn't have "links" installed and I don't have that many rights. The wiki says that the text manual first compiles the html manual and then makes a text out of it, the hml doesn't build on (my) cygwin because I never managed to get tex4ht to run which is needed for it 14.42.07 # well, I tried but it failed 14.42.17 # ok, I'm getting closer here 14.42.37 # there will be some missing but if i can get over 80% auto filled it will be a much simpler start 14.43.01 # c+p from the PDF? ;) 14.43.37 # the multi line descrptions is breaking me :( 14.45.37 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.47.30 Quit domonoky (Client Quit) 14.47.56 # google docs isnt very good for plain text files :/ 14.48.19 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.49.15 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 14.50.04 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 14.50.18 # pixelma: S_a_i_n_t: (anyone else interested) https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=17d-uo1cnlWdCAJDpNWH7xCOBWc-jb3hXbub6sHFJ0B4&hl=en&authkey=CJP9kaoJ 14.50.31 # is there a better webapp to share a plain text file? 14.52.42 # https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AazlOGMuRZ7OZGd6ZzMyYmtfMjJjN3Jia3Bobg&hl=en&authkey=CLb3l4YO is a better template 15.02.22 # * pixelma wonders why there is an "lcd_charcell" feature just for the manual while we have a global "lcd_bitmap" and can include and exclude in the manual 15.04.46 # hmm... it's been there from the start of langv2 15.22.57 Join skfunnyboy_ [0] (~skfunnybo@modemcable024.96-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 15.23.20 # hi ! 15.23.33 Quit skfunnyboy_ (Client Quit) 15.27.18 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.28.23 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 15.29.13 Quit Jerom (Remote host closed the connection) 15.34.09 Quit jfc^3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.35.10 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 15.40.40 # JdGordon1: Is there a particular doc to work off? 15.40.48 # (skin tag stuff) 15.44.10 Join stripwax_ [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 15.45.12 # excuse me, please tell me if it is a good deal to buy new sandisk c250 for 35$ or better buy something other? 15.48.23 # I'd try asking in #rockbox-community, you may not get an answer there, but it won't be off-topic at least. 15.50.48 # kk 15.53.53 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 15.57.26 # * S_a_i_n_t is quite interested in http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25339.msg169774#msg169774 15.58.16 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 15.59.06 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 15.59.51 Quit Jerom (Client Quit) 16.04.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.05.49 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 16.07.40 Quit Jerom (Client Quit) 16.08.31 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.46.225) 16.13.26 # S_a_i_n_t: not really.. see the pastebin for a few hours ago 16.14.29 # I'll quickly put a full example there, but it is mostly freeform while we figure it out 16.24.32 Quit VoivoD (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.24.56 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.27.42 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 16.30.39 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 16.32.00 # S_a_i_n_t: pixelma: ok, I've dumped a blurb on how to fill out the tags in the doc 16.32.08 # obviously it is flexible if it isnt enough 16.37.58 # Can someone with a player with a TEA5767 chip test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11492 ? 16.38.18 # a TEA5767 FM tuner chip I mean 16.46.41 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-209-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.50.14 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 16.56.19 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-d9bda769.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.58.17 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.02.41 # bertrik: which players avec this ? 17.04.32 # JdGordon1: Not sure which link I should be looking at, can't find any blurb in the first google-doc link and the second one (link) seems to be invalid. 17.04.53 # iaudio m3/m5/x5, iriver h10/h100/h120/h300, archos ondiofm, gogear hdd1630/hdd6330, onda vx747/vx767/vx777, sansa c100/m200v4, mpio hd200 17.08.54 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.15.47 Quit stripwax_ (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 17.32.09 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.34.24 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 17.34.25 # S_a_i_n_t: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AazlOGMuRZ7OZGd6ZzMyYmtfMjJjN3Jia3Bobg&hl=en&authkey=CLb3l4YO 17.34.29 # no worky? 17.36.27 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.41.54 Quit JdGordon1 (Quit: Leaving.) 17.44.07 Quit fyrestorm (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.47.34 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 17.50.36 # JdGordon: JdGordon1: Aaaargh, sorry I've been awol...yeah, nope. 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What do you think about having the editor check in /fonts and fall back to a user folder if it doesn't find the required font (or if the user folder does contain a newer version)? 20.26.12 # RandomCake: you can retrieve the USB ID via Help / Troubleshooting / System Info 20.26.13 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049138059.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.27.03 # RandomCake: if the PID is 74c1 it's a v1, and if it's 74c3 it's a v2. 20.27.19 # strange, it's listing the volume, but no USB devices 20.27.39 # no usb devices at all? That's really strange. 20.27.59 # (you're referring to the System Info dialog, correct?) 20.30.14 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.30.19 # yes, it lists all the mounted volumes, which includes the Fuze, I'm just going to plug in my iPod and see if it then lists that under 'usb devices' 20.31.02 # RandomCake: what OS are you using? Windows? And which version? 20.31.21 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 20.31.46 Quit Utchybann (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.32.17 # is there also some MTP/UMS setting on the Fuze - and does the Rockbox Utility need setting it correctly too? 20.33.51 # pixelma: setting it isn't needed for the System Info dialog -- it just reads the USB IDs that are present in the system. So even if that Fuze might have an MTP mode (no idea about that) that might even cause the player to show up using a different USB ID the list should at least show a USB ID entry for the player. 20.41.02 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.41.09 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 20.41.40 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-41-152.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 20.41.44 Quit halmi (Client Quit) 20.42.51 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.43.51 Quit dionoea (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.44.30 Quit zu (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.45.00 Quit Highlander (Quit: Quitte) 20.45.42 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 20.50.28 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 20.51.36 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 20.57.24 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.59.51 Quit krazykit (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 21.00.09 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 21.00.19 # the Hardware Id is USB\VID_0781&PID_74C0&REV_:310 21.01.07 # and I'm running Windows 7 bluebroth3r, so perhaps the RockBox installer doesn't support Windows7 as fully as other OSes? 21.01.11 # that's a fuzev1 in mtp mode. 21.01.34 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 21.01.37 # there shouldn't be a difference for w7. Though it's not really tested on w7 21.01.54 # yup, switched it to MTP mode to see if it was more detectable (as the player does more of the work in MTP mode than when it's a mass storage device) 21.02.30 # I could imagine that MS did changes to SetupApi which could result in the list of devices being empty. Maybe an UAC issue? 21.02.41 # * bluebroth3r should check that later 21.02.53 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.03.49 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.04.02 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 21.04.07 # UAC is off (or maybe just way down, will check) 21.04.23 # nope, it's off 21.05.52 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 21.06.36 # hmm, no idea why the USB ID list is emtpy then. 21.07.40 # hmm, switched it back to MSC and not getting a hardwareID from the details tab of the properties window for the device (from device manager)... hmm 21.07.45 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.09.18 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 21.15.56 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.16.29 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.17.58 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 21.20.36 # tried a different USB port? 21.24.15 # New commit by 03alex (r27542): Manual: Correct spelling (US-->UK) for "centre" in touchscreen keymaps. 21.26.03 # r27542 build result: All green 21.28.10 # Is there any reason that everything is still being built on manual commits? I though it used to be excluded. 21.28.14 # *thought 21.29.23 # ok, confirmed that the System Info dialog doesn't show any USB devices on W7. 21.30.21 # * bluebroth3r guesses that it's only a minor difference that cuases this on W7 21.30.37 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A8D3.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.30.46 # will try to figure what's going wrong here tomorrow. Unless something keeps me from doing so :) 21.31.14 # pixelma: the device was functioning correctly and detected, and I installed RockBox successfully! :D now running it and it's going nicely, works a lot better than on my 2nd Gen iPod Nano :) not a single panic so far ;) 21.31.19 Quit slck (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.31.22 # AlexP: it hasn't been excluded anymore since the build system change 21.32.00 # pixelma: Right, but is there any reason? I can't think of one, especially as manuals aren't built (although it might be useful if they were :)) 21.32.11 # Just an oversight I guess 21.33.20 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 21.34.12 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@79.132.46.225) 21.37.33 # I believe it was asked about in the beginning but I can't remember the answer. For some reason I think it was something like "building is cheap with these build times, so why should it be excluded" but I can't tell where I'm taking that from 21.38.06 # maybe someone just didn't want more complication or work, not sure 21.45.19 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@184-196-199-214.pools.spcsdns.net) 21.51.02 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.52.08 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@184-196-199-214.pools.spcsdns.net) 22.05.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.09.34 # mt: can you take a look at fs#11495? 22.24.51 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]) 22.25.02 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 22.57.24 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.01.17 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.01.17 Join BlakeJohnson861 [0] (~bjohnson@184-196-199-214.pools.spcsdns.net) 23.10.18 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053152211.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.10.18 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 23.10.18 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.13.24 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.29.04 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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