--- Log for 30.07.110 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 21 days and 12 hours ago 00.00.10 # (still needs to link mkamsboot-1.4 manually) 00.00.30 # what are the conditions to move target to unstable (from unusable?) 00.00.54 # wodz: ok for daily use 00.01.36 # is manual for unstable target mandatory? 00.01.44 # nope 00.02.13 # So I think HD200 is unstable then 00.02.14 # rbutil support / manual is only for stable afaik 00.02.55 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.03.05 # preglow: I'm lucky that these phones run on ARM cpus, otherwise I'd have a bit of a problem with threads ;) 00.03.43 # are there smartphone not based on ARM on the market? 00.03.46 Join Jennifur [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.03.56 # kugel - got a link? :) 00.04.05 # stripwax: link to? 00.04.07 # * funman wants the .apk 00.04.09 # * amiconn doubts that 00.04.10 # * stripwax does too 00.04.56 # apk that is .. 00.05.22 # wodz: not with any marketshare to mention 00.05.39 # there are most likely MIPS ones in China, I have do doubts 00.05.52 Quit bunnyboi (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.05.58 # http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/rockbox.zip 00.06.08 # the codecs need to go under /sdcard/rockbox/codecs 00.07.03 # kugel: i don't really see how you're not already having trouble with threads, unless you're running some kind of thin thread implementation inside of rockbox itself 00.07.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.08.01 # yea, that's exactly what I do 00.09.05 # kugel: Big congrats! Chimes in with .apk request.... 00.09.23 # FlynDice - link is above 00.09.28 # FlynDice: thanks :) 00.09.39 # remember you need a 320x480 device 00.09.43 # * preglow mumbles about rockbox and preemptive threads 00.10.20 # I've written shell script to visualize battery_bench.txt file(s). Anyone interested? 00.10.48 # wodz: visualize how? there's a script on the wiki to feed it to gnu plot IIRC 00.11.00 # * funman can't use rockbox o: 00.11.14 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 00.11.16 # kugel: then why is it so good the chip is arm? sounds like any of our supported cpus would work equally good 00.11.56 # yea, they could've been cf or sh too, but I know arm better :) 00.13.05 # oh right it's a touchscren target :) 00.13.10 Quit milz (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.14.35 # kugel: Maybe I reinvented the wheel but I couldn't find any 'parser' for battery_bench.txt on the wiki 00.15.06 Join kyle__ [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 00.15.54 # wodz - it might be on the CodecPerformanceComparison wiki page 00.16.02 # uh, no, wait. scratch that. 00.16.26 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.16.43 # * stripwax remembers seeing one but can't remember exactly where 00.17.54 # wodz: SansaRuntime has a command line for c&p 00.18.06 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27617): Maintenance and minor speedup of libwmapro. Comment unused arrays, fix comment, remove tabs and introduce WMAPRO_FRACT to wma.h to remove magic ... 00.18.58 # Buschel - what's the difference between what the vector code in wmapro is doing and XNPROD / XPROD ? 00.19.12 # (also, what's the difference between MULT31 and fixmul31 , etc ..?) 00.19.38 # would be cool to standardise implementations in codeclib, rather than having competing asm, if possible 00.20.03 # r27617 build result: All green 00.20.29 # kugel: congratulations for sound on Android ! :-) 00.20.39 # thank you! :) 00.20.51 # * stripwax is still downloading the zip 00.21.07 # stripwax: MULT31 drops 1 bit precision on ARM, fixmul31 does not 00.21.20 # stripwax: MULT31 is faster though... (on ARM) 00.21.23 # kugel: This one I know 00.21.34 # Buschel - true, and true. should we standardise? 00.22.17 # I think the implementation of MULT31 is not because we want to lose 1 bit precision, but because it is faster and that 1 bit doesn't make perceptible difference given its (probably limited) usage in initial/final steps only 00.22.40 # stripwax: depends on the demands of the codec... full precision is correct if a loss of 1 bit will impact the output. this might not happen to all codecs (e.g. depends on the size of the fract part) 00.24.17 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.24.36 # http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2010/07/30/the-rockbox-app-part-ii/ :-) 00.25.58 # B4gder: you extracted the tgz? 00.26.03 # yes 00.26.55 # hm there's a one hour delay before it appears on download.rockbox.org right? 00.27.12 # kugel - "no .rockbox directory, installation incomplete" ? 00.27.16 # funman: yes 00.27.53 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.28.35 # Buschel - ah, true. so maybe we could tweak a codec to use MULT31 instead of fixmul31 but only if we deem it's a safe optimsation. makes sense. 00.29.20 # stripwax: you have /sdcard/rockbox? 00.29.48 # ah, well, just ignore that 00.30.15 # i do (containing just codecs dir). but guessing the plugins need to come from somewhere too; not in zip unless I missed them somehow! 00.30.28 # no plugins yet 00.30.58 # the theme especially 00.31.07 # no theme yet 00.31.08 # :p 00.31.20 # stripwax: e.g. libwmapro shows different results as soon as you use the MULT31 implementation. and it is only minor faster (about another +1%) 00.31.34 # Buschel - worth knowing, thanks! 00.31.56 # kugel - ah, it uses the touchscreen grid thingy? 00.32.17 # yea 00.32.25 # good night! 00.32.28 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]) 00.32.41 # absolute mode would be unusable with sysfont anyway 00.33.07 # true. it seems to only be response if I have my keyboard open (which forces it into landscape mode, which it doesn't seem to support) 00.33.26 # kugel: I've got the menu displaying fine on my evo which has a different size screen than you mentioned I beleive. Still trying to figure out the touch nav.... 00.34.24 # middle top = up, middle down = bottom, middle center = play 00.35.23 # kugel: where's your git repo ? 00.36.35 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.37.03 # funman: http://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git 00.38.26 # should i track gsoc-android-botloader ? 00.38.53 # you can, but it doesn't have the java bits (and I'm unsure how/where to add those) 00.41.07 # kugel, I can see the rockbox screen as a smaller portion of my entire screen, so perhaps as long as the device screen is larger than 320 x480 it may be ok? 00.41.08 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.42.12 # FlynDice: it looks like :) I don't know what's supposed to happen :) 00.42.34 # just lettin you know what I see 00.45.45 # kugel: /android ? 00.46.44 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.47.38 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.49.04 # funman: I hope I can get it in the target tree, but it looks like that would have some disadvantages 00.49.35 # isn't it more 'packaging code' than target code? 00.49.49 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 00.50.23 # kugel: does it search for music files just like on a regular device? 00.50.46 # FlynDice: I haven't tested 00.51.00 # database seems to be initialising, which is nice 00.51.11 # where did you play your music file from then? 00.51.25 # FlynDice: filebrowser 00.51.29 # ok 00.51.41 # stripwax: it does? it stays at "0 found" here 00.52.06 # oh, hm, so it does. 00.52.33 # kugel: get dlopen working? 00.52.46 # JdGordon: checked mails? :) 00.52.51 # hah, music. working. awesome! 00.52.58 # just opened it :) 00.52.59 # congrats 00.53.21 # what was the problem? 00.53.41 # crashes badly if i turn my g1 sideways though. 00.53.56 # JdGordon: permissions :) 00.54.09 # which in particular? 00.54.11 # * FlynDice found directory with all the alarms and managed to play them but can't figure out how to stop... ;) 00.54.21 # * stripwax did exactly the same 00.54.37 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 00.54.53 # kugel - sometimes it just refuses to recognise touchscreen controls, expected at this point? seems to lock up and become unresponsive. 00.55.46 # JdGordon: noexec on SD card 00.55.46 # that's not expected no, it doesn't happen here 00.56.06 # * JdGordon is king :) 00.56.06 # kugel: how can i help? 00.56.07 # I didn't know you need +x when doing dlopen() 00.56.27 # haha, file not android permisions? :) 00.56.34 # yes 00.56.35 # anyway good to see it working 00.56.55 Quit JdGordon (Remote host closed the connection) 00.57.20 # kugel - ah, seems it's not just touchscreen unresponsive, it locked up while playing too. any debug log I can give you to help out? 00.57.26 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.58.33 # stripwax: maybe later :) most of the current code is a hack, to get music playing quickly. I'll do it more properly later and see if there's still problems then 00.58.50 # :) no worries; congrats and great progress! 01.04.55 Join lestatar_ [0] (~chatzilla@rrcs-24-103-19-135.nyc.biz.rr.com) 01.05.13 # do you guys also experience that the bottom 2/3 of the screen are black? 01.06.08 # how much java did you need to write? 01.06.46 # <400 lines 01.07.11 # just enough to load the binary? 01.07.35 # no, "drivers" too 01.08.06 # you cannot access most api's in native code, you need to go through the jni to java to access them 01.08.15 # kugel: yes the bottom was black but that looked normal? 01.08.41 # well, no 01.08.49 # I don't know why that is though 01.09.15 # for me, the whole background was black 01.09.20 # I only see it in long lists, when 2/3 are cut off 01.10.00 # I see that but thought it was a screen size issue 01.10.03 # I'm possibly being stupid and thinking too far ahead,but could that act as a mini rbutil also? check for and download updates, upload scrobble log, gen voice files? 01.10.32 # hmm, andoird has TTS... I wonder if we could hook straight into it! 01.10.33 # JdGordon - woah there! 01.11.20 # JdGordon: most probably 01.11.41 # \o/ 01.13.31 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.15.48 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 01.15.56 # New commit by 03funman (r27618): mkamsboot: don't boot OF if USB is plugged (AMSv1 only) 01.16.15 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 01.16.52 # JdGordon: some one needs to do the work of course 01.16.56 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.16.57 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.17.47 # r27618 build result: All green 01.19.31 Quit soap (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.19.57 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.21.56 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-164-66.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.22.06 # New commit by 03funman (r27619): Tag release v2 of AMSv1 bootloaders and release v3 of AMSv2 bootloaders 01.22.21 # most confusing tag ever :) 01.23.18 # New commit by 03funman (r27620): Tag release 1.4 of mkamsboot 01.23.25 # * funman notices he forgot to tag mkamsboot 1.3 01.23.45 # it wasn't obvious? 01.24.18 # FlynDice: what? 01.24.47 Join evilnick__ [0] (~evilnick@ool-4a5909aa.dyn.optonline.net) 01.26.54 # Why I was sure v1 or v2 of mkamsboot1.3 would have completely stood out against the others.... lame humor I 'll now go back to experimenting ;) 01.30.24 # ranma_: what's the PID of c200v2 in MTP mode? 01.34.50 # nvm, it's always MSC PID - 1 on other Sansas 01.35.45 # New commit by 03funman (r27621): rbutil: c200v2 01.36.12 Quit evilnick__ (Remote host closed the connection) 01.37.10 # New commit by 03funman (r27622): c200v2: mark as unstable 01.37.15 # r27621 build result: All green 01.39.06 # r27622 build result: All green 01.39.49 # New commit by 03funman (r27623): Front page: move c200v2 to unstable ... 01.39.54 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.43.54 # i can't find a downloadable OF for m200v4 on sandisk forums 01.44.47 Quit lestatar_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.50.08 Join lestatar_ [0] (~chatzilla@rrcs-24-103-19-135.nyc.biz.rr.com) 01.55.30 Quit lestatar_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.02.29 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 02.07.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.01 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.11.13 Join Davide-NYC [0] (~chatzilla@69.86.166.244) 02.15.34 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.26.10 Join Tenniru [0] (~Tenniru@pool-173-66-213-145.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 02.26.58 # hey, I'm having a problem initializing the database 02.27.12 # basically, it takes a long time and the battery always runs out before it finishes 02.27.28 # and I can't figure out how to charge my iPod without having it go into the "do not/ready to disconnect" screen 02.43.34 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-209-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) 02.46.22 Quit WalkGood (Quit: CaminaBien) 02.49.13 # Tenniru: hold select when plugging in usb 02.49.28 # it sounds like you have a file which the database cant read 02.49.43 # hmm 02.49.48 # is there a way to find out what that file is? 02.51.02 # yes, but its not fun. delete half your tracks untill it works again, then add half the last deleted ones back in 02.51.07 # rinse, repeate 02.51.28 # hooray 02.51.56 # oh, I know I have some protected iTunes files in here somewhere 02.52.04 # that could be it 02.52.11 # I know they won't play on rockbox, but would that also get in the way of reading id3 tags? 02.53.49 # well, i'll get rid of those and see what happens 02.53.51 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 02.54.04 # by the way, select is the center button, right? 02.58.29 # yes 03.02.17 Part Davide-NYC 03.09.32 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.10.29 Quit Jennifur (Quit: Going!) 03.12.32 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-99-141-196-197.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 03.19.19 Quit Tenniru (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.21.52 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-211-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.22.18 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.24.05 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@58.96.27.157) 03.24.06 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 03.24.06 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.24.21 Join Tenniru [0] (~Tenniru@pool-173-66-213-145.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 03.24.40 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 03.25.02 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.26.12 # New commit by 03bieber (r27624): Theme Editor: Began implementing syntax highlighting. 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Added a small subset of the available tags to the tagdb file, filling it out ... 10.39.28 # I think I've got auto-complete working in the Theme Editor, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there's a bug or two hiding in it. If anyone wants to test it out, it'd be much appreciated 10.40.30 # r27625 build result: All green 10.42.42 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.00.43 # bieber: After typing % it shows only tags starting with F,i,I,V and w. doesn't show for example x,a,p. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong? Also shouldn't completion be case sensitive? I mean when you type %i you can see tags starting with %i and %I 11.01.20 # Weird. I just created a new firmware for my sansa clip, and yet, it still automatically boots the OF when pluggin to SUB. 11.08.29 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.09.48 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 11.14.18 # bug2000: Do you mean you have changed bootloader? 11.14.30 # New commit by 03nls (r27626): libwmapro: fix comment for coldfire fixmul31. 11.15.12 # mitk: That and the makeboot. 11.16.04 # r27626 build result: All green 11.17.42 # bug2000: you mean mkamsboot? 11.18.26 # Erm ya. 11.18.28 # That is v1.4 11.18.40 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.18.42 # The boot loader was just downloaded so I believe it's 2. but I don't know how to make sure. 11.24.35 # bug2000: On clip+ you can see bootloader version when rockbox is booting. Just before rockbox version and it is displayed very short. I believe you can see it on clip also. 11.25.49 # O_O bootver 1.0 11.26.36 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/clip/ - So this isn't up to date. 11.32.57 # Themers/Those interested in skin tags: Just a quick note...has anyone tried setting a vulue to the %pE(X) (== Track ends in seconds, 10 is default) tag higher than 10? For me (current SVN) "%pE(20) is turning "true" at -3:20 (3 minutes 20 seconds remaining). 11.33.22 # Whereas %pE(10) goes "true" at the correct time. 11.33.51 # If someone could confirm this it would be great, I don;t have a lot of time to spare presently. 11.34.20 # Errr...bah! s/vulue/value/ 11.39.44 # GodEater: Ping? 11.39.47 # anyone know how to fix a "White screen of death" on an ipod Nano 2G? 11.39.58 # ==Hard Reset 11.40.36 # "Hold Menu+Play until the problem goes away!" 11.41.06 # Buchsel: the coldfire fixmul31 and the windowing loop (which btw appears identical to the codeclib XNPROD31) all lose some precision, the fixmul always loses the lsb and the windowing loop accumulates 2 multiplies into the 40 bit acc which is then truncated to 32 bits so it will lose only 1/2 bit of precision (if one can say that) 11.43.36 # GodEater: If it is a "true" Nano2G WSoD, then after it resets there is a pretty good chance that all data on the device will be lost, you'll get a prompt with "Please restore your iPod using iTunes". 11.44.11 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 11.44.25 # the reason for this is that the emac in fractional mode shifts the 32 bit result up one bit in the acc so it really produces (long long)x*y>>31&0xfffffffe 11.44.39 # Sounds like said Nano2G is running quite an old revision, I have not seen a WSoD for a looooong time on my Nano2Gs 11.45.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.45.14 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 11.54.58 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.ntl.com) 12.06.08 Join swilde` [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 12.07.00 Quit swilde` (Client Quit) 12.07.39 Join swilde` [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 12.07.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.09.00 Quit xlarge (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.10.22 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 12.10.36 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.10.43 Quit swilde (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.10.44 Quit swilde` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.11.10 Join xlarge [0] (xlarge@c-d8f3e555.026-102-73746f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 12.35.15 # S_a_i_n_t: Tried on Fuze Sim. %pE is working as expected, %pE(10) goes true at -1:40, %pE(20) at -3:20, %pE(30) at -5:00. 12.36.24 # S_a_i_n_t: that doesn't work - in fact, the screen appears to have *completely* died now - it's not displaying anything at all now. 12.43.10 # mitk: sounds like %pE is in 10 seconds steps? I would have expected seconds 12.43.17 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~TheSphinX@89.204.153.2) 12.46.38 # pixelma: 10 seconds is default when you don't pass any parameter. Why you mention 10 seconds steps? I can't see it in my test result. 12.47.32 # pixelma: oh sorry, you are right 12.47.46 # I would have expected %pE(10) to be true at -10 seconds, not 1:40 (minutes) which is 100 seconds, so 10x10 12.48.23 # pixelma: apologized already :) 12.49.05 # sorry, I had already started typing the answer 13.07.51 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.10.10 # pixelma: Same with %pS. I have made patch for both. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 15.36.21 Quit sevard (Changing host) 15.36.21 Join sevard [0] (sev@unaffiliated/sevard) 15.40.34 # * GodEater pokes at Zagor or Bagder 15.41.28 # pixelma: Fixed track_starting/ending problem - FS#11507. Can you take a look at it and eventually commit? 15.45.42 # mitk: don't these tags accept fractionals? 15.46.33 # kugel: you mean fractions of seconds? 15.46.36 # yes 15.47.43 # kugel: There is no need to use fractions of seconds for this tags IMHO. 15.48.07 # it seems wrong to me that token->value.i doesn't already hold the correct value. multiplying with 100 (or 1000 or whatever) makes the fractions impossble 15.48.47 # IIUC it should be like 250 for 2.5s (check the DECIMAL stuff in the parser) 15.49.15 # unless I'm completely wrong that is :) 15.49.36 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.221) 15.49.40 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.50.35 # kugel: It's working as expected with my fix, I tested it on sim 15.51.41 # kugel: And it's not my design. I'm fixing it a little only 15.52.24 # I think jdgordon/bieber should have a look at it 15.52.29 # it's their design :) 15.53.05 # kugel: Yes. 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I'll set it up tonight. 18.01.17 # kugel: This is for Android 2.x versions, correct? 18.01.27 # should work on 1.x too 18.02.09 # kugel: I'll see if it works on 1.x as well. 18.02.17 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.05.32 Part stooo 18.07.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.08.04 # kugel: I have a crazy idea. Let's see if RaaA will compile and run on Android x86. :) 18.12.22 # * TheSeven is slightly confused by r26191 18.13.51 # if i have "int foo[10];", what the hell is "&foo"? 18.15.38 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 18.16.30 Quit Jaykay (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 18.18.03 # LambdaCalculus37: yea, no it won't :) 18.18.44 # kugel: Ahh well. :) 18.20.02 # TheSeven: the same as foo and &foo[0] 18.20.12 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 18.20.41 # hm. absolutely nonsense. 18.20.51 # that should be a compile-time error, if anything. 18.23.52 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.36.30 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D6A6.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.44.30 Quit stoffel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.44.50 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D6A6.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.46.26 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 18.47.01 Join old45 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 18.51.36 # I have an Iriver 120 and an old version of rockbox installed, shold I install anewer version? wondering if the new version would have improvments for my older player 18.53.28 Quit old45 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.55.59 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.56.15 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.00.41 Join old [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 19.02.01 # I have an older version of rockbox on an Iriver 120 and wonder if I should upgrade? 19.02.18 # old, if you stay for more than 2 minutes you might get an answer 19.02.30 # I wonder if the new version will have features that I need 19.02.44 # most of the changes apply to all of the targets, so look at the MajorChanges wiki page to see what was added since you last updated 19.02.50 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges 19.03.03 # My last post didn't show on my screen so I rebooted the IRC window 19.04.13 # OK can I just run the auto install on top of my version? 19.04.38 # If I deside to run the new version 19.04.56 # yep 19.06.44 # bertrik: i'm looking at fs#11330 19.08.30 # Still not completely sure if 4 minutes on a 17h benchmark is really significant, but I guess it doesn't hurt to disable the SPI controller either 19.09.17 # do you prefer if we close it with 'not relevant enough' or something? 19.09.55 # i would like to know why we need to call dbop_init() on clipv1 but not on clipv2 19.10.50 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.11.15 Join Luca_S [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 19.11.32 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 19.11.33 # krazykit, thanks for the reply. It looks like my version goes back farther than your web page so I think I will give it a shot, there has to be improvments. 19.14.25 # which version do you run? 19.14.37 # funman, I don't know yet 19.14.38 # seems to be a lot of lag on my end 19.15.16 Quit old (Quit: CGI:IRC) 19.15.23 Join old [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 19.15.52 # Krazykit thanks for the info 19.17.11 # on clipv2, clearing bit 3 of CGU_DBOP keeps the content of DBOP_CTRL intact 19.18.46 # oh, so maybe this is some subtle difference between AMSv1 and AMSv2 19.19.20 Quit old (Client Quit) 19.19.32 # ah no, it works fine if i move ascodec_write() after modifying CGU_DBOP 19.20.55 # I have no idea why that would make a difference, they seem completely unrelated 19.21.11 # (ascodec and DBOP, I mean) 19.21.55 # hm but when i unplug USB the screen is off 19.23.46 # I think we (I) should document the DBOP settings a little more 19.24.22 # like using #defines for the stuff we put in DBOP_CTRL and DBOP_TIMPOL 19.35.54 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Remote host closed the connection) 19.39.49 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 19.41.05 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.47.37 Join old45 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 19.48.49 # I opened the 3.6 auto install and when I did the search for the hex file it reported that the checksum did not match, do I need a different hex file for this install? 19.50.05 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D6A6.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.08 # Tryinf to upgarde the install on my Iriver 120 19.51.18 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.53.24 # old45: which version did you run before and more importantly which bootloader version if it is a real old install. Also, make sure to use the H120 not the H110/5 19.55.36 Quit old45 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 19.59.27 Quit WalkGood (Quit: me fui) 20.03.05 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 20.06.17 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e76:3cde:1636:b5a6:f655) 20.07.30 Join literal_ [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 20.07.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.08.23 Quit literal (Quit: leaving) 20.08.28 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 20.08.35 Quit literal_ (Client Quit) 20.10.19 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.11.46 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8E86F.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.11.59 Join pete_ [0] (55de02b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.222.2.184) 20.13.30 # Hello 20.17.26 # I'm having an issue with Rockbox FW. I've posted it on official forum but I haven't received any support yet. Here's a link: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25373.0. Any help would be much appreciated, I'd love to get Rockbox working. Regards, pete PS I'll be AFK for about ten minutes from now 20.19.28 # pete_: The causes are likely to be tag-related. Do you have extra-long Comment tags, or album art? 20.19.53 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 20.20.10 # Which is also the advice you were given "check your tags" 20.20.35 Quit r0b- (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.23.24 Join nerdk0re [0] (~nerdk0re@pool-173-58-108-190.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) 20.25.30 Quit nerdk0re (Client Quit) 20.26.21 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-99-52-153-220.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 20.30.40 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 20.32.49 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.35.05 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 20.38.17 # I do have album art embedded (APIC frame) 20.38.44 Join old [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.38.45 # But none of my tags is extra long 20.39.26 # They all seem fine both in Mp3tag and Apple FW 20.40.45 # I have an older version of rockbox on aN Iriver 120 and would like to install 3.6 but when I direct the installer to my HEX file it says the checksum does not match. Do I need to remove my HEX file and replace it with a different version? 20.42.23 Quit old (Client Quit) 20.42.26 Join old [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 20.42.27 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.43.20 # My questions do not always show on my screen so I am sorry if someone is trying to respond and I log off 20.45.21 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.45.27 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 20.45.32 # I am trying to load 3.6 on my older Iriver 120 which has an old version of Rockbox. The problem is that when I direct the install program to my HEX file it says the checksum is invalid. Do I need a new hex file for 3.6 20.46.27 # old: I see you use the webclient set up from our site, I guess you have more fun with the "webchat" provided by freenode, just join #rockbox again. How old is your version exactly, especially the bootloader version. Make sure you use the one for the H120 and not the H110/115 20.48.22 # * S_a_i_n_t wonders why the new skin parser uses *SO* much more RAM than the old one... 20.49.16 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.50.09 # and why there was a big green delta due to less RAM usage at the same time 20.51.00 Quit old (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.53.00 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 20.57.46 # I need to check on device, again (well, two side by side one old parser - one new) but I seem to be using about 200% skin buffer in the new parser. 20.58.15 # A clip+ theme on the forums seems approximately the same. 20.58.41 # was 12Kb, is now 26Kb 20.59.25 # I already wondered about this post almost 4 hours agp 20.59.30 # or ago 21.00.29 # It's a pretty bad time for me to be able to go any testing, just something I noticed. Haven't really been in here much recently. 21.00.37 # s/go/do/' 21.06.52 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 21.09.51 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.14.41 Quit maraz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.15.10 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.244) 21.16.18 # pixelma: Just a quick "hey" before I need to run off again, I see some talk about %pE and %pS above...did I miss something initially? Is it not supposed to be "%pE(number of seconds to true)"...I tried to work out the math but the last few days haven't really left me in the mood for anthing even slightly mentally taxing. 21.16.45 # New commit by 03bieber (r27629): Theme Editor: Filled out the tagdb file 21.18.07 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 21.18.29 # r27629 build result: All green 21.19.47 Quit pete_ (Quit: Page closed) 21.21.24 # S_a_i_n_t: I would also have expected number of seconds. mitk did some testing and it seems it's currently counting 10 second steps, so %pE(10) would be 10 x 10 = 100 seconds. Sounds wrong to me too 21.29.16 Quit kyle__ (Remote host closed the connection) 21.32.44 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 21.33.27 Join old45 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 21.35.40 # My hex file was created on June 20,1906. I want to update the rockbox to 3.6. Do I need a new hex file on my Iriver 120 21.37.59 Quit old45 (Client Quit) 21.38.03 Join old45 [0] (www-data@giant.haxx.se) 21.39.11 # do I need a new hex file to install 3.6 mine is created June 20 2006 21.39.35 Quit seani (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.41.56 # installer says check sum is wrong 21.42.17 # I understand it's not easy to chat with the IRC client from our site, maybe try to http://webchat.freenode.net/ using #rockbox in the "channel" box. Other than that, if you just want to update the Rockbox build, you don't need a hex file 21.43.34 # unfortunately I don't know much about H120 bootloader installation. I just know there was a change once which made a new bootloader necessary but I can't remember when exactly that was 21.44.04 # I want to update, will the auto install do that for me? 21.45.12 # it should. If you don't need the bootloader (which I'm not sure of) , you don't need the "complete install" though 21.45.18 # I saw the date of 2005 mentioned on one of the pages 21.45.58 # Is the procedure for an update outlined somewhere? 21.48.09 # it should be in the manual. You can chose the "installation" tab first and then "Install Rockbox" and then stable. Make sure your device is correctly mounted and recognised as a H120 21.48.34 # Like I said it looks for the HEx file and I direct it to my file on the player but I get a pop up that says checksum is wrong 21.48.45 Join AleMaxx [0] (~enforcer@f053013185.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.49.30 # then it tries to install the bootloader somehow if I understand correctly 21.50.07 # I this channel dedicated to the anthrax song "cadillax rock box" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcLOR-fACvg)? 21.50.15 # no 21.50.21 # fine ;-) 21.51.15 # old45: which you possibly don't need. What is your bootloader version (it is shown quickly at the start when you boot the player 21.51.16 # I don't know why it wants to see the Hex file, and yes the device is mounted as the H120 21.51.16 # this channel is about something way cooler: a firmware replacement for digital audio players 21.51.24 # old45: Are you using one of the files from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/iriver/ ? 21.52.20 # bertrik, I know although I have never tried it 21.53.13 Join seani [0] (~seani@109.224.128.185) 21.54.57 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.55.02 # that page does not look like anything I remember but my hex file is dated June 20,2006 21.55.17 Join Kitr88 [0] (Kitar_st@BSN-143-104-42.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 21.55.54 # Bootloader is version 6 21.57.00 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 21.57.18 # old45: You're probably best off following the instructions at http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-iriverh100/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-90002.2.1 in detail. 21.57.22 # Do we still need a lot of work to get the Sansa Clip+ and Clip v2 to stable? 21.57.39 # USB doesn't work, but using the OF for USB is a work-around 21.59.34 # pixalma Is the version 6 bootloader something that needs to be updated? 22.00.15 # I will have a look at that page 22.01.25 # version 6 looks to be the latest 22.01.40 # Unless you're building from code 22.02.09 # No code I am just trying to make the device work!!! 22.04.31 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 22.04.55 # Will I see the Iriver firmware version if I boot into Iriver? I do not know if my firmware version is the 1.63 that the instructions call for. 22.06.40 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.06.52 # old45: It's a two-step process. You need to patch the iRiver firmware with firmwarepatcher first, then you flash the patched firmware to the iRiver device 22.08.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.08.09 # minimal install will also try to install the bootloader. That's why it's quick start. 22.08.28 # and the date of the hex file doesn't matter. File timestamps are unreliable at best, so no reason to trust them. 22.08.49 # the more important question is: which version is the hex file? I.e. which version of the original firmware does it contain? 22.09.04 # and what player? h100? h300? 22.09.06 Join old45_ [0] (4531424b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.49.66.75) 22.09.31 # H120 22.09.36 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.182) 22.09.38 # ok. 22.10.11 # well, which firmware version does the hex file contain? If Rockbox Utility says wrong checksum then it doesn't recognize that version of the file. 22.10.15 Quit old45 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 22.12.12 # How do I find the firmware version inthe hex file 22.12.53 # where did you get that file? 22.13.20 # I have switched from webcliant to this IRC 22.13.29 # does this utility use ihex format? 22.13.49 # what is "this utility"? 22.14.32 # the ".. Rockbox Utility says wrong" 22.14.44 # * bluebroth3r doesn't understand the question 22.14.57 # because of what? 22.15.14 # by ihex I mean this: http://www.keil.com/support/docs/1584.htm 22.15.44 Join DarkMalloc [0] (~DarkMallo@2607:f0d0:1002:92::2) 22.15.57 # when you type "objdump -i" for example "ihex" may also be listed 22.16.11 # The h100 firmware file uses intel hex, if you are referring to this. 22.16.50 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.17.23 # however, those files are crypted so you can't just run objdump on them. 22.17.35 # s/crypted/scrambled/ to be exact 22.18.50 # nod bad, but although I never really dived into the ihex format isnt it just a ascii representation of binary data with maybe checksum protection? 22.18.58 # not 22.19.14 # yes. But the binary data of the firmware is scrambled. 22.19.43 # the bootrom expects it like that? I had a similar case recently 22.20.18 # you can convert the hex file into a binary representation with objcopy 22.20.34 # the firmware isn't read from disk on the h100. 22.21.53 Join Davide-NYC [0] (~chatzilla@69.86.166.244) 22.22.29 # I recently looked into the boot process of some mp4 soc and dumped the bootrom which loads the code from flash and it uses some nice xor en/decoding 22.22.50 # I wonder why they use encryption for this 22.23.23 # My device is the h 120 and the hex file is named ihp_120.hex 22.23.47 # well, if you're interested in the scrambling done by h100 / h300 see tools/irirver.c 22.24.33 # old45_: where did you get that file? The firmware file needs to have that name for the player to recognize it, so the filename unfortunately doesn't tell anything. 22.25.14 # I got it when I first installed Rockbox from the Rockbox site 22.25.28 # so you have Rockbox running? 22.25.34 # that was a long time ago 22.25.50 # an old installation 22.25.50 # (and you can't get the firmware file from rockbox.org, we don't distribute that file) 22.25.57 # yes it works but I thought I would update 22.26.01 Join halmi [0] (~netbook@93-82-36-187.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 22.26.11 # so is there a need to update the bootloader at all? Which version of the bootloader are you currently running? 22.26.36 # I have a merrior site with the versions of 1.63 and newer 22.26.36 # and is that file unmodified? Rockbox Utility not recognizing it could be caused by the file being patched previously 22.28.06 # the current release of the bootloader for h100 is version 6. If you're running that there is no need to update it. 22.28.09 # Ok perhaps that is the problem that the file was modified on install and now that I try to do a insall with the aout install it is seeing the modifyed hex and not the hex it needs tomodify 22.28.29 # I have version 6 bootloader 22.29.02 # jhMikeS: ping 22.29.19 # then there is no need to install a new bootloader. Just use the installation tab in Rockbox Utility to install Rockbox, then any other parts you like to have installed. 22.33.40 # I have had so many suggestions that I need to retry to see what and where I am. Thanks for the help 22.35.17 Quit old45_ (Quit: Page closed) 22.35.58 # I suggested the same... 22.37.34 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.37.42 # bluebroth3r, what is rockbox really? does it do multitasking? does it have something that could be called a kernel (I dont see a directory name that suggests this in the svn root)? 22.38.09 # it multitasks, it has a kernel 22.38.29 # nice 22.39.14 # AleMaxx: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxArchitecture 22.39.43 # (and the pages that are linked to from there) 22.39.55 # thanks evilnick_B 22.40.11 # AleMaxx, threads are cooperative 22.42.07 # okay 22.47.27 # New commit by 03bieber (r27630): Theme Editor: Modified buildtargetdb.php to read targets list from tools/builds.pm using includetargets.pl 22.48.51 # is it easy to port? So far I found prex (prex.sourceforge.net) to be very easy to port. you only need to write a timer and serial driver and you are ready to boot up to the console (with the most common commands build in) 22.48.58 # r27630 build result: All green 22.53.37 Quit bieber_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.56.11 Quit halmi (Quit: halmi) 22.57.06 # bye 22.57.11 Quit AleMaxx (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.58.53 Quit DarkMalloc (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.58.57 Join DarkMalloc [0] (~DarkMallo@2607:f0d0:1002:92::2) 23.04.20 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@p5DD2B155.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.15.30 Quit captainkewll (Quit: Page closed) 23.18.55 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-95-222-52-93.unitymediagroup.de) 23.20.21 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-98-111-162-159.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 23.40.54 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.42.18 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.149) 23.57.40 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving)