--- Log for 10.08.110 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 17 hours ago 00.09.17 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 00.14.22 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 00.17.07 Quit r0b- (*.net *.split) 00.17.08 Quit MagusG (*.net *.split) 00.17.10 Quit jhMikeS (*.net *.split) 00.17.11 Quit Tuplis (*.net *.split) 00.17.12 Quit dionoea (*.net *.split) 00.18.28 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-213-223.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 00.18.28 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-76-97-148-35.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 00.18.28 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.18.28 Join Tuplis [0] (~jani@adsl-77-109-221-158.kymp.net) 00.18.28 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 00.19.54 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.20.09 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.20.43 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.21.37 Quit giovanni_ (Quit: Sto andando via) 00.26.13 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.236) 00.29.48 # why in recording.c set_gain() always sets 0dB gain for right channel when global_settings.rec_source == AUDIO_SRC_MIC ??? 00.30.45 # I know mic is considered mono device but setting different gains to channels needs special handling in codec driver this way 00.32.07 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.33.00 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!) 00.33.20 Quit ender` (Quit: Just when you get really good at something, you don't need to do it any more.) 00.33.31 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.34.36 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 00.35.07 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.131.249) 00.35.37 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FC65C39.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.36.41 Quit Jerom (Client Quit) 00.41.29 # fm screen is terribly broken in svn head 00.44.15 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.45.07 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.47.11 Part domonoky 00.48.22 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.49.11 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 00.49.12 # its not all *that* bad... 00.49.44 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053153115.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.49.44 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 00.49.44 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.50.44 Quit PouncePony () 00.52.05 # JdGordon: You mean this mess of stripes ? 00.52.20 # what mess of stripes? 00.52.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.53.26 # whole fm screen is filled with stripes 8pix height 00.54.24 # I thought it was my change to lcd_update() in mpio but fm screen is the only place with this effect 00.55.25 # AlexP: and/or pixelma Re: Manual - Theme Tags, none of the touchscreen specific tags are listed. 00.56.02 # JdGordon: IS it possible to add a "Target has touchscreen " tag? 00.56.05 # *IS 00.56.12 # S_a_i_n_t: how battery icon work is going? 00.56.14 # gah..."Is" 00.57.29 # wodz: I have a few ideas on paper...but, nothing in pixels yet. I was considering starting to put some things together shortly. 00.57.45 # ok. 00.58.06 # hmm fm screen is not broken in sim only on device 00.58.14 # S_a_i_n_t: there is a patch for that.. the only reaosn it isnt in iss because it doesnt add it to the inbuilt statusbar 00.58.52 # AlexP: and/or pixelma: I'll add a flyspray entry regarding the touchscreen tags missing from the manual. 00.59.34 # JdGordon: Aha, I see...I just thought it would allow me to easily create a theme with slightly different layouts for touchscreen/no touchscreen 00.59.44 # (useful for the targets that share screen sizes) 01.01.58 # S_a_i_n_t: I'm petty sure I looked it up recently when you said it and they were in a D2 manual... 01.02.39 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.03.07 # pixelma: They're not in the Nano manual...are the theme tags listed in the manual target specific? 01.03.15 # * S_a_i_n_t didn't think so...but. 01.03.18 # they are 01.03.34 # they are....what? 01.03.40 # target specific? 01.03.45 # target or feature specific 01.03.56 # That's pretty fucking stupid IMO 01.04.06 # what if someone wants a complete list? 01.04.39 # It seems that it is currently just not possible to find a *complete* list of theme tags...its stupid. 01.06.31 # Can that be changed? The manual should have a full list of theme tags. 01.07.01 # what if someone wants to know what's possible on his target? I am actually for adding the complete list to all manuals maybe with an additional column showing a checkmark or so as the target specific part - that means a lot more work though which hasn't been done. Your language here doesn't give much motivation too and no solution 01.08.19 # Well, I apologise...I just quite literally find it ridiculous that it is this way. It was a bit of a shock. 01.09.47 # what good would it bring to list e.g. the foreground/background tag options without comment? 01.11.02 # * S_a_i_n_t isn't sure he understands what you're trying to say there...did I suggest that? 01.11.05 Quit Dreamxtreme (Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.) 01.11.50 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.176.123) 01.12.36 # if all tags are listed in all manuals then you need to add more info to it too than there is today, not only include everything unconditionally. 01.15.08 # Yes. That's correct. 01.15.26 # The info is already written, it just needs to be merged. 01.16.46 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.16.52 # I think it would be confusing to see tags that only make sense on color bitmap devices showing up in the table for a mono charcell target's manual. 01.17.01 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.17.02 # wodz: on at least some targets the cpu is clocked to the lowest freq in the fm screen and afaik that's the only place we do that so maybe this causes your stripes? 01.17.16 # or at least require the reader to realise 'I don't even need to know what that means since it's not supported on this target'. 01.17.17 # default freq being ~ 11MHz for coldfire 01.17.47 # pixelma: I don't believe so...as long as there were clear examples. 01.18.00 # There can't reallt be *that* many target specific tags. 01.18.14 # *really 01.18.15 # did you mean stripwax? 01.18.19 # ? 01.18.55 # Ah, yes...I did indeed. 01.19.01 # what does mean 'steps' field in sound_settings_info? Is it step size or number of steps? 01.19.11 # I think 'clear examples' might not mean much for my scenario above (does the manual need to give examples of color-bitmap-specific features on a non-color non-bitmap target?) 01.19.53 # stripwax: Well...why not? You might not be looking at the tags specific to your target. 01.19.57 # S_a_i_n_t: there are quite a few - colours, greyshaded, bitmaps - the Player only progress bar, album art, backdrop, most RTC tags, most recording tags, most radio tags 01.20.00 # Think of it from a themers POV 01.20.14 Quit kisak (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.20.20 # The fact that there is *no* complete list of tags is a royal PITA 01.20.21 # S_a_i_n_t - the themer needs to know what tags are supported on a given target 01.20.36 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 01.20.43 # otherwise the theme won't parse. 01.20.43 # And, with some work...the manual coul represent that. 01.21.12 # stripwax: it would make much sense at least for targets sharing the same screen dimensions with another feature-wise different target 01.21.40 # Well...either the manual or customWPS needs an overhaul...and to me the sensible choice is the manual. 01.21.51 # As more people are aware that the manual exists 01.22.20 # maybe the manual should point out that it is a target-specific manual, and include a reference to customWPS [or something]. 01.22.33 # as I said earlier it would need to be clearly marked what is possible on your target 01.22.42 # all of the other sections of the manual are tailored for that target, specifically. 01.23.15 # bluebrother: The value isn't exposed anywhere, other than when running make dist. So far I've been unsuccessful at getting it visible to my source code in any way, I think I'll probably just add a Help->About dialog and embed a $ Revision $ inside a string constant so I can strip away the formatting and display it 01.23.46 # If the manual is going to link to customWPS (which I kinda find silly, but anyway) then customWPS needs a lot of work too. 01.24.01 # missing tags/wrong syntax/etc 01.24.29 # I suppose it depends on whether we think the manual is a users-manual or a themers-manual ; [well, or both]. if we don't have a separate themers-manual [e.g. if customWPS is absolutely useless], anywhere, then the target-specific manual is as good a place as any. 01.25.22 # I see the manual as being "official", and the wiki as "a rough guide"...to me it makes sense for all the tags possible to be listed in the manual, but just so you know I do understand your POV stripwax 01.25.25 # (and agreeing with pixelma's point about highlighting the target-supported-tags in some way) 01.25.35 # Yes, as do I. 01.25.44 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 01.26.19 # serious question - what documentation is 'supposed' to be updated first to stay on the cutting edge of new developments? wiki or manual? 01.26.30 # manual, IMO 01.26.46 # btw. using "unknown" to a specific target tags don't break the WPS afaik. Incorrect usage would though (e.g. greyshades or colours in %Vf/%Vb) 01.27.08 # I think the manual too 01.27.43 # * stripwax notices that neither the manual nor the PluginSlidingPuzzle page mention anything about albumart in the sliding puzzle or the ability to use the Sliding Puzzle as a bitmap viewer 01.27.52 # there once was an agreement in a DevCon discussion to move info from the wiki to the manual 01.27.57 # pixelma: %Rp (has recording? y/n) for example, breaks the Nano2G (with no recording) 01.28.18 # I'd call that a bug then 01.28.27 # Ah...right. 01.29.28 # that one should work on all targets. I admit that I'm not sure if things are still the way they were in this regard though 01.30.02 # The difference I see between the manual and the wiki is that basically anyone can get access to the wiki, and whether it is deliberate or not (I should hope it wouldn't be though...) add blatantly incorrect material/info to it. 01.30.18 # The manual has a way higher chance of being both complete and correct. 01.31.45 # If there is something I can do to assist creating a "master list" of theme tags to add to the manual...let me know. 01.35.03 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@122.110.154.64) 01.35.56 # Stupid librockbox.so wont load 01.36.17 # Chmod +x in the user directory should work no? 01.39.36 # JdGord: what is "the user directory"? 01.40.03 # The folder returned by get_files_directory 01.40.12 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 01.40.38 # . /data/data/org.orckbox/files 01.43.44 # Maybe it never was working. That is where I had of working from on Sunday ;/ 01.46.13 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 01.50.31 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 01.50.32 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 01.50.32 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.50.37 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 01.57.04 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 01.57.24 Join angelwolf71885 [0] (chatzilla@cpe-173-168-248-236.tampabay.res.rr.com) 01.59.44 # JdGordon|: this on android? (the unix permissions issues) 02.00.16 # yes 02.00.39 # I set it to 711 to be 100% sure its executable 02.01.20 # it might have something to do with who owns the file, that should be the uid of the program it's connected to 02.01.54 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@122.110.154.64) 02.01.55 Quit JdGord (Client Quit) 02.02.16 # no, that looks correct 02.02.26 # or at least its the same as the surrounding folders 02.03.12 # do you have something in logcat telling you it's not loading? 02.03.41 # if so, please paste that 02.06.15 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 02.07.17 # I do, but not here. Shouldnt have brought up the subject on the bus into work :) 02.07.29 # JdGordon|: get_user_file_path() usually returns /sdcard/rockbox 02.08.29 # how is get_user_file_path() implemented on the android target? 02.08.51 # look at the source :/ 02.09.30 # ah no, I meant the java getFilesDir() 02.09.35 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.15.35 Quit kadoban (Remote host closed the connection) 02.16.22 Join kadoban [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 02.26.25 Quit r0b- (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 02.35.02 Quit Chronon (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02.36.41 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-213-223.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 02.39.03 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@190.78.17.89) 02.39.06 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 02.39.07 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 02.52.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.55.57 Quit angelwolf71885 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 03.16.38 Quit captainkewll (*.net *.split) 03.18.02 Join captainkewll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 03.20.07 Join jthundley [0] (~jt@netblock-208-127-83-97.dslextreme.com) 03.20.50 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.22.17 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 03.22.39 Quit ved (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.28.59 # I'm having a problem with my custom theme. I draw a progressbar onto the default viewport but my next viewport always covers it up even if it's visible stopping before the progressbar 03.29.02 # http://pastebin.com/rQJcUc8r 03.29.14 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.29.28 # if you comment out the first viewport which is lines 31-35 the progressbar shows up fine 03.29.53 # *visibly 03.30.24 # you cannot put progressbars in the default viewport anymore 03.30.46 # well that would explain it, heh 03.31.02 # so here's point 2 then: I actually already made a corrected version of my theme where the progressbar is in its own viewport 03.31.18 # but whenever I press a button to turn on the backlight, there's a delay in the progressbar showing up 03.31.28 # that's ultimately what I'm trying to fix 03.32.04 # which target? 03.33.21 # sansa e200v2 03.34.13 # the new theme looks like this: http://pastebin.com/jDbhMr7P 03.34.27 # and this progressbar lag doesn't really show up in the sim 03.35.19 # how much of a delya is therE? 03.35.43 # delay* 03.36.18 # like a half second or so 03.36.46 # * JdGordon| reminds self to make an arbitrary progress tag 03.36.56 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.99.217) 03.37.24 # create a bug on the tracker and attach the whole theme zip to it 03.37.35 # I'll make a little video of it real quick... 03.37.36 # after the lcd comes on it should update the bars immediatly 03.38.53 Quit jthundley (Remote host closed the connection) 03.39.40 Join jthundley [0] (~jt@netblock-208-127-83-97.dslextreme.com) 03.39.50 # whoops I killed X 03.43.01 # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LAfW8-BjjE 03.43.41 # hmm 03.50.09 # * S_a_i_n_t thinks it may have to do with the draw order. 03.50.29 # A half second delay in an object loading in a skin is really nothing. 03.50.38 # AA can take a second or so to appear. 03.50.58 # maybe I'm anal, but it bugs me 03.50.58 # aa is a bit different thoguh 03.51.30 # jthundley: Try adding the progressbar right up the very top of the .wps file 03.51.40 # k 03.51.43 # that way, it should be drawn before other objects in the skin. 03.52.39 # The draw order is defined by the tags position in the skin file...it used to be all drawn in one lump at the end, but now the tags get drawn as they are hit. 03.52.42 # (IIUC) 03.52.53 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.53.04 # mostly correct 03.53.19 # Woo...! Mostly! 03.53.19 # images used to be drawn in a lump at the end of each viewport 03.53.56 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.30.102) 03.55.01 Quit Dreamxtreme (Client Quit) 03.55.47 # there's still a delay after moving the progressbar to the very top 03.56.33 # Hmmmmm, guess there isn't much to be done about it then, sorry. 03.57.15 # I'll have a look at your pastebin now just to see if anything else strikes me as odd. 03.58.29 # thanks, I think the theme is pretty straightforward 03.58.38 # I'd be drawing the icons in their own viewports personally...perhaps that is having an effect on it, I really can't say. 03.59.13 # this is my third rockbox device :) and again I really have to say thank you to all of you, rockbox is the best thing since sliced bread 04.00.20 # really? what's wrong with using the default viewport? 04.00.39 # IMO its worth a try, try adding a viewport for each icon (I generally do this...I usually draw as little in the default viewport as possible). 04.01.25 # Nothing's *wrong* with it per se, but I try to either draw in the default viewport alone, or in individual viewports. 04.02.08 # I only use the default viewport for imahes if the images are static. 04.02.47 # All your icons appear to be dynamic, so, it'd be worth a try drawing then in individual viewports. 04.02.55 # *them 04.04.17 # It's a really easy fix, just make a viewport that is the same dimensions as the icon, and change the %xl line's x,y coordinates for each image to 0,0 04.04.45 # You won't lose anything if it doesn't affect the draw delay. 04.04.46 # what about taking the lazy way out and putting all the icons in a full-screen viewport? 04.05.25 # Well, then you would have overlapping viewports, and all your dynamic items will go all fucked up. 04.05.37 # timers/scrolling lines/progressbar. 04.05.39 # etc 04.06.07 # ok, I'll try that before submitting the bug 04.09.01 # great my keyboard just broke, this'll be fun 04.10.02 # .....fun. :/ 04.11.22 # 176x220.....what is that? Fuze? 04.12.17 # nah, e200 version 2 04.12.25 # I also notice you have a stop icon in your .wps....it's not doing any harm there, but you'll never see it. 04.12.54 # hey you're right, wtf. never have seen a stop icon 04.13.01 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@g231224220.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.13.05 # Stop is never displayed. 04.13.14 # Stop == "exit the WPS" 04.13.23 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 04.13.27 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@g231224220.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.13.31 Quit kugel (Changing host) 04.13.32 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.14.32 # jthundley: You should also change your volume icon line to read "%?pv<%xd(Ca)|%xd(Cb)|%xd(Cc)|%xd(Cd)|%xd(Ce)|%xd(Cf)|%xd(Cg)|%xd(Ch)|%xd(Ci)|%xd(Cj)|%xd(Cj)>" 04.14.45 # If you want it to display a little more accurately. 04.15.18 # what did you change there? 04.15.41 # The last two positions are for "line level" and "greater than line level", so if you're using a scale type volume icon, it looks better to merge the last two steps. 04.15.55 # I just added the last image to the end of the line again. 04.16.38 # in short: "it will look better if you have two %xd(Cj)'s " 04.17.26 # otherwise %xd(Ci) will only represent a *tiny* portion of the volume scale (0dB only) and it looks weird. 04.17.26 # I can't say I understand it, but I'll throw it in :) 04.17.27 # IMO 04.17.49 # * S_a_i_n_t tries to explain. 04.18.13 # oh you know what 04.18.24 # I get what you're trying to say, and actually I like it better this way 04.18.33 # because I like 0db being it's own distinctive icon 04.18.45 # because I always try to hav emy player at 0db 04.18.58 # Ah, right. I kinda assumed there. 04.19.36 # I mostly plug into cars, stereos, and headphones with their own volume dial 04.20.25 # Usually people want to have a percentile type scale, like the same as the battery meter for example and get confuzed when the second to last icon only displays at 0dB instead of a range from x-to-y like the other icons. 04.21.40 # ahh 04.22.24 # so if I'm putting my icons into their own viewports, should I load them inside the viewports or before the viewport? 04.23.01 # Doesn't matter really...just keep the %xk lines where they are, but change the x,y to 0,0 04.23.03 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 04.23.12 # right, ok 04.23.15 # (assuming the viewports are the same dimensions as the icons 04.23.18 # +) 04.23.43 # gah "%xl" rather, not %xk 04.24.11 # I knew what you meant ;) 04.32.42 # progressbar still lags ;_; 04.34.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11529 there's my bug 04.35.41 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-98-111-172-116.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 04.36.11 # can i format an sd drive to ext2 with rockbox? 04.36.43 # no, it only supports fat 04.36.46 # the musicbrainz filenames often fail in fat 04.36.57 # jthundley: thanks 04.37.04 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 04.37.28 # can rockbox read ext2? if i format the sd someplace else? 04.37.29 # tell me about it, fat mangles filenames 04.37.45 # FAT/32 only 04.38.06 # I'm pretty sure they it only supports fat. I read in that the faq once, they don't ever want to support other filesystems 04.39.23 # ok, that's practical 04.43.27 Quit AndyI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.46.32 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 04.48.57 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-152-152.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.49.07 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 04.49.48 Quit parafin (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.50.21 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 04.50.28 # I just pruned that stop icon out, weird that stop is the first position for %mp and required 04.50.30 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.50.47 # but that's still a little memory saved 04.51.18 # jthundley: it can be used in the .sbs also, so it makes sense to have it there. 04.51.59 # You can actually see the stop icon in the .sbs, but as soon as playback stops the players drops back to the menu so you never get a chance to see it in the .wps 04.52.30 # refresh my memory, what's sbs for again? is that recording? 04.52.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.53.13 # It can be...the .sbs is a skin for *every* area. 04.53.23 # oh ok 04.53.25 # except some of the dubug screens IIRC 04.53.53 # If you really wanted to, you could create a theme solely from an .sbs file. 04.54.45 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.55.27 # The .sbs can do almost anything a .wps, .rwps, .fms, etc can do...the only limitation would be that you could only use one backdrop. 04.55.39 Quit jfc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.55.41 Join angelwolf71885 [0] (chatzilla@cpe-173-168-248-236.tampabay.res.rr.com) 04.55.43 # right I remember now, it's like the base theme 04.55.50 # Correct. 04.56.14 # well I'm outta here, thanks for all the help S_a_i_n_t, I'll see you around :) 04.56.21 # o/ 04.56.39 Quit jthundley (Remote host closed the connection) 04.56.46 Quit angelwolf71885 (Client Quit) 04.56.56 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 04.57.46 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.57.47 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.57.49 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.57.51 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.57.59 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f672c.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.58.02 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.58.11 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.58.44 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.49.40 Join jouhou [0] (~18e45d82@giant.haxx.se) 05.50.12 Quit jouhou (Client Quit) 05.50.14 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.50.33 Join jouhou [0] (~18e45d82@giant.haxx.se) 05.53.23 # I mispelled the name of a theme when uploading it to themes.rockbox.org. is there a way I can edit the submission or is that only possible by the site admin? 06.01.38 # yeah, I hink you need to reupload it and then report the old one for deletion 06.02.45 # I don't see a "contact" email anywhere on the theme site. do you know who I would need to talk to, for its deletion? 06.03.40 # each theme has a area to report it 06.03.57 # ah I see, thanks 06.04.10 # which theme? 06.04.33 # JdGordon|: your theme any good (link)? 06.04.33 # under the Clip+, currently its spelled YellowBaryDynamic-Larger 06.04.44 # Bary should just be Bar 06.04.51 # might be yellow bar (wild guess) 06.04.54 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=984&target=sansaclipplus 06.05.11 # delt: ? 06.05.37 # JdGordon|: just wanted to see what it looks like =) 06.05.39 # jouhou: arg, I cant remember my password to get into the admin section.. someone will fix it soonish 06.05.55 # delt: I have no idea what you're talking about 06.07.20 # JdGordon|: oh duh.... swapped the usernames, was kind of absent minded 06.07.34 # jouhou: your theme any good (link)? 06.08.24 # I wouldn't have shared it if I thought it wasn't good! http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=984&target=sansaclipplus 06.11.08 # thats an odd thing to say :) 06.11.20 # plenty of shitty themes on the site 06.11.41 # * JdGordon| can say that because he is pretty sure he has the worst one online 06.11.44 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 06.14.42 # anyway, seems the "barY" typo is fixed 06.14.59 # the clip has a 128x64 screen?? 06.15.59 # i think its 128x66 06.16.23 # oh yeah sry my bad 06.16.38 # lines 0-15 are yellow. 16-the_last are blue 06.17.32 # oh yeah, i remember that... but i thought it was an older player 06.18.13 Quit Erwan (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 06.18.34 # <--- needs to go shopping for a microSD card (which will spend most of its time in the sansa e260, hehe) 06.18.48 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.29.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.32.14 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!) 06.33.57 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.39.37 Quit jfc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.41.07 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 06.49.35 Quit anewuser (Quit: rip ugetab) 06.52.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.58.53 # delt: newegg? 07.00.39 Join Temik|2 [0] (~kvirc@85.26.233.27) 07.03.09 # It kinda is only 128x64...2px are completely useless in the height parameter. 07.03.25 # (2 rows ow black between yellow/black) 07.03.58 Quit Temik|2 (Client Quit) 07.04.17 Join Temik|2 [0] (~kvirc@85.26.233.27) 07.08.32 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 07.08.46 # chrisb: how do you know i laid an egg?? 07.18.58 Join Chronon [0] (~chronon@c-24-20-224-187.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.19.34 # delt: newegg.com sells cheap microSD 07.21.07 # chrisb: OHHHHH sorry, and ... thanks! :D :D 07.21.31 # taking a look now..... 07.22.17 # newegg.com's website would be something like www.newegg.com ...right? :D jk 07.24.05 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.27.09 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.27.10 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.30.45 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 07.34.03 Quit bieber (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.34.22 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.41.14 Quit jouhou (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 07.41.35 Join angelwolf71885 [0] (chatzilla@cpe-173-168-248-236.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.41.40 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 07.42.00 Quit bieber (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 07.42.27 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.43.49 Quit angelwolf71885 (Client Quit) 07.52.45 Quit Temik|2 (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 08.00.45 Quit kadoban (Remote host closed the connection) 08.01.11 Join kadoban [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 08.15.30 Quit CIA-6 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.16.24 Nick delt is now known as delt_zZzZ (1000@www.deimos.ca) 08.19.06 Join chaos_ [0] (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 08.19.36 Nick chaos_ is now known as chaos (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 08.19.43 Part chaos 08.28.50 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.32.51 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.36.55 Join LinusN [0] (linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.38.08 Join Pio [0] (~sean@207.181.14.102) 08.40.42 Join CIA-9 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 08.49.15 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 08.50.12 # Has anyone used/is anyone using "FS#8961 - Anti-Aliased Fonts"? 08.50.20 # If so, thoughts? 08.52.22 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.52.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.57.09 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 08.57.31 Quit storm` (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.57.32 # ha, I am pretty close to fully support wm8750 nifty features :-) 08.58.18 # "nifty features"? 08.58.20 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.58.53 # Automatic Level Control, Noise Gate, 3D Enhancement 08.59.24 # selectable bass and treble cutoff filters 09.02.36 # The only drawback of my changes is that nasty hissing noise issue come back again on MPIO. 09.20.42 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.26.19 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 09.26.26 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 09.29.56 Quit kadoban (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.31.02 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 09.32.11 Quit milz (Remote host closed the connection) 09.32.12 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.32.26 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 09.33.43 Join kadoban [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 09.35.55 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 09.39.43 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA0D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.43.19 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.43.50 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@f052031228.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.49.42 Join Temik|2 [0] (~kvirc@85.26.233.27) 09.59.30 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 10.04.35 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!) 10.07.11 Quit mt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.08.00 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 10.08.18 Quit simabeis (Quit: Lost terminal) 10.08.27 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 10.15.03 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.17.07 # I notice that issangons "experimental" build for the Clip includes a 24 band EQ, which sounds truly awesome...I have tried to contact him via instant message through the forums, but to no avail. The patch is listed in his initial post describing the build, but the FS# is "FS#_____24_Band_EQ" (or similar) ans I simply *cannot* find it or anything like it on the tracker... 10.17.18 # Does anyone happen to have this patch? 10.17.36 # Or, know how I can implement the same thing by hand? 10.18.38 # S_a_i_n_t: there are only three unnumbered patches in there, in quite different area. Download the source, revert all known patches, and diff 10.19.07 # gevaerts: Thanks...I was afraid I'd have to do that ;) 10.19.23 # Or just ask in the thread :) 10.19.54 # He hasn't been active since the middle of last month. 10.21.52 # And, there's actually *four* unnumbered patches in there... :P 10.22.40 # Uuuuuuurrrrgh...reverting all those patches by hand will be fucking painful. 10.22.48 # I don't want it *that* badly. 10.23.09 # Well, maybe I do...but not tonight, that's for sure. 10.24.03 # look at driver file first 10.25.29 # isnt that a 24band software eq? 10.25.54 # should be easy enough to figure out whats changed for it 10.26.14 # that's why I pointed to driver file itself 10.26.27 # I doubt it is done in hardware 10.26.28 # Perhaps...but it'd take me a million years to DL the source. 10.26.37 # Still haven't got my ADSL back :/ 10.26.41 # I was thinking the dsp code 10.28.17 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 10.30.19 # I found out what makes this irritating noise on MPIO but wm8750 datasheet is not very verbose about this setting and moreover OF doesn't seem to change this register 10.31.19 # JdGordon: fwiw, I also saw some weirdness in progressbar with my theme but before reporting I wanted to check if it happens in others too. Upon entering you can see the correctly "filled" progressbar shortly, then it "empties" for half a second or so until it gets drawn correctly again. This is with the built-in progressbar and it is in an own viewport IIRC 10.31.41 # in progressbar drawing 10.31.43 # The setting is called analog bias optimization 10.32.31 # pixelma: ok... tell android to start cooperating and I'll get back to the skin bugs :) 10.45.15 Join stooo [0] (~sto@e179220204.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.50.01 Join chaos_ [0] (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 10.51.07 Nick chaos_ is now known as chaos (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 10.53.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.53.46 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 10.54.25 # * JdGordon needs to rockbox artwork done 10.54.40 # a couple of logos 10.59.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.01.42 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.02.50 Part chaos 11.03.28 # hmm, setting bias optimization for 1.8V produces distorted sound :-/ 11.09.04 # does anything actually use ROCKBOX_BINARY_PATH or ROCKBOX_*_PATH ? 11.10.00 # JdGordon: Logos for what? 11.10.24 # the start screen for android (assuming I get my way :) ) 11.10.33 # Aha. 11.11.32 # right now the first time it loads you get a "Do you want to download files" splash on a very boring black screen 11.13.05 # anyone want to test my RaaAoA? 11.13.41 # codec failures :/ 11.15.59 Quit Chronon (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.25.29 Part stooo 11.32.13 # codecs loading :) 11.36.26 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-143-244.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.37.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11525#comment36643 is more what I tihnk the rockbox apk should do 11.54.39 Quit S_a_i_n_t () 11.55.14 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.236) 12.03.13 # yeeeeee, f#$%$#%$ noise is gone :-) 12.10.43 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.11.25 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.124) 12.13.24 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.21.17 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.22.55 Part watto 12.23.23 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.24.28 # hmm I defined HAVE_NOISY_IDLE_MODE in mpiohd200.h in order to prevent entering cpu_idle_mode in fm screen but screen corruption is still present. Moreover I have animated battery icon working perfectly in bootloader with cpu_idle_mode(true) 12.29.15 Quit [Saint] () 12.29.30 Join stooo [0] (~sto@e179220204.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.29.32 # JdGordon: any hints? 12.30.44 # nup. I know fm screen is broken.. I'll get onto it before the weekend hopefully 12.32.19 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.124) 12.32.37 # ok confirmation that fm screen is known to be broken is enough for me now. 12.37.13 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 12.37.49 Join Erwan2 [0] (~bc824511@giant.haxx.se) 12.38.46 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: Even if you're lying, please tell me everythings going to be fine.) 12.40.51 # *test* 12.43.02 # Hi, since yesterday i'm trying to build rockbox for an ipod nano 2g, using cygwin, i'm new to code and sources and all these things, i ran rockboxdec.sh but now i'm lost, what sould i do to get the build i have to put on the ipod? 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I keep looking in the wikis but i don't get it.. 13.08.55 # which wiki pages do you follow? 13.09.23 Quit Erwan2 (Client Quit) 13.12.54 # hey kugel, have you seen 11525? 13.13.03 # yes 13.13.48 Join mt_ [0] (~mtee@41.234.34.190) 13.14.17 # thoughts? 13.15.14 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.15.14 Nick mt_ is now known as mt (~mtee@41.234.34.190) 13.16.10 # I'm failing miserably at restarting the service if it detects an updated rockbox.zip :( 13.17.12 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048237054.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.18.02 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.18.12 # kugel: about Your suggestion with wakeup_wait() and wakeup_signal() it is sligtly slower than busy-yelding at least on coldfire. 13.21.17 # wakeup_wait() is not about speed, but about thread scheduling, the thread that calls will not be scheduled for running which means the other threads run more. I'm surprised though it's slightly slower, by how much? 13.22.39 # bus-yelding 1/1:1122.5fps 1/4:3847.5fps wakeup_wait 1/1:1120fps 1/4: 3647fps 13.24.06 Quit anewuser (Quit: FAMICOMPO 7 - August 15 Through August 31 JST - http://midr2.under.jp/compo/vol7/index.html) 13.24.30 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Leaving.) 13.26.37 # wodz: ah, so still amazingly fast :) 13.32.04 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@f052031228.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.32.04 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.38.54 # wodz: did you see my comment about cpu idöing in the radio screen, that might be related to your display problem 13.39.09 # n1s: I tested this 13.40.03 # did it make a difference? 13.40.14 # I defined HAVE_NOISY_IDLE_MODE so entering cpu_idle_mode is turned off and this makes no difference 13.40.42 # moreover I have battery icon animation in bootloader working perfectly ok with cpu_idle_mode(true) 13.41.15 # ah, ok 13.42.55 # hmm I need someone with gigabeatfx and mrobe100 to test my work on wm8751.c driver file 13.43.02 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.43.32 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.46.33 # wodz: I have a mrobe100 at home, I can test tonight, what should I test ? 13.48.43 # pamaury: cool - I'll post patch to FS. 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It is possible I missed something. 13.50.31 # ok, I'll see if I hear something strange, and tomorrow I'll bring it with me 13.51.45 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.22.218) 14.05.21 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14.07.13 Join preetyboyswag [0] (~543c1197@giant.haxx.se) 14.07.54 # hey people i read that rockbox is workin on phillips go gear is that true ? 14.08.46 # there is a list of supported players on th efront page, and a link to a detailed list of the status of each 14.09.14 # yeah the status is already done but i cant find the rockbox.m1f file or how its call it 14.10.04 Join adnn [0] (~d983c971@giant.haxx.se) 14.10.07 # which model? 14.10.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GoGearSA9200info 14.11.49 # Hi, I have a problem with lrc player on Sansa Clip+ 14.12.51 # The Lyrics scrools down automaticly but i want scrool down it manually 14.13.37 # because the lyrics arent time tagged so the voice and lyric is different 14.14.25 # preetyboyswag: "Please note that Rockbox is NOT ready for everyday use on the GoGear SA9200. It is still only meant for developers and testers. " 14.14.44 # preetyboyswag: it's assumed that if you are able to install and use it, you are smart enough to compile rockbox yourself 14.14.59 # so i need to use linux to create it 14.15.41 # Linux, or vmware, or cygwin 14.15.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform <- is probably preferred if you are a windows user 14.16.05 # Can you add manual scrooling down to lrc player 14.16.06 # hm, though that environment is out of date, i think 14.16.27 Quit mischasworld (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.16.40 # not sure if there's a newer one. 14.17.16 # adnn: ..that's not really a lrc file if it doesn't have the time tags 14.17.28 # that's just a textfile that happens to have the lyrics in, no? 14.17.42 # view it in the text viewer if you want to just read the contents.. 14.17.45 Quit krazykit (Quit: brb) 14.19.15 # thx for the help torne well i bought a new gogear today ariza with 8gb so i try to my get it to work on it , it looks not so hard 14.19.30 # i think you just need a lot of time to make it 14.20.02 # preetyboyswag: setting up the environment (vmware or cygwin) might take a little while but you only have to do it once 14.20.07 # doing an actual build takes <10 minutes 14.23.45 # is there some tutorials for beginners ? 14.23.56 # i would really like to learn how to do ports 14.24.34 # the wiki has documentation on how to set up a build environment and do a build 14.24.56 # actually doing a rockbox port requires a large amount of specialist programming knowledge.. 14.25.14 Quit parafin (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.25.37 # And i want to ask a question about pictureflow i have 20 album with covers but the picture flow shows 2 of covers. 14.26.14 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@f052031228.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.26.44 # Do i do something wrong? 14.27.26 # do the covers show up when you play the tracks? 14.27.36 # anything that displays in the WPS should show up in pictureflow as well 14.27.47 # i fit doesn't show up in either you have probably not named the files correctly; see the manual 14.28.41 # the covers are tagged into mp3 files. 14.28.54 # rockbox doesn't read embedded cover art 14.28.57 # at all 14.29.02 # nobody hsa implemented it yet 14.29.14 # they need to be separate files, named according to one of the schemes listed in the manual 14.30.51 # Should i put the jpg artworks in album folder? 14.32.53 Quit mischasworld (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.34.05 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 14.34.17 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 14.35.08 # adnn: look in the manual for a different player to see where the album art goes 14.35.31 # unfortunately because the clip+ can't display album art on the WPS, it doesn't have the information about how to put album art on there, even though pictureflow uses it :( 14.35.51 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildap2.html#x17-384000B.20 14.36.09 # there's the info, from ipodvideo's manual 14.36.32 # * Torne raises a bug for that 14.36.56 # thank you i'll lok it 14.40.44 Join lafille [0] (~lafille@ANantes-552-1-85-178.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.41.02 Quit lafille (Client Quit) 14.46.43 # pamaury: The patch is in FS#11531 - thanks 14.52.29 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p5485153D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.53.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.59.35 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-212-147.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.10.12 Quit adnn (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 15.11.15 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 15.15.02 # thx for the help torne but i stll gonna request help here becouse i am not to in into the scriptin stuff 15.15.53 # what? 15.16.37 # all you have to do is follow simple instructions.. 15.16.39 # there's no "scripting" 15.17.13 # precompiled builds will be made when the people doing the port think it's worthwhile, i.e. when end users can reasonably expect to be able to use it somewhat 15.18.27 Quit parafin (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.20.45 # sure i know that but , i got a gogear but its the new one from 2010 its there i way i can find out if this workin with build 15.20.51 # from rockbox 15.22.09 Join lestatar_ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.23.11 Quit lestatar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.23.16 # Rockbox does not provide builds for your player. 15.23.18 Nick lestatar_ is now known as lestatar (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.23.40 # If you want to use Rockbox with your player, if there is a port for it, you will need to compile it yourself. 15.24.14 # thats what torne told me there is a port for the old player version of mine 15.24.21 # and i dont know if its workin with mine 15.24.42 # If there is not a port for your specific version...then no, it won't. 15.25.09 # alright so somebody would need to port it again 15.25.32 # Yes, and noone will do the work just because somebody wants it to happen. 15.25.51 # Developers work on specific ports because it interests them. 15.26.01 # And they do it in their free time. 15.26.31 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 15.26.54 # S_a_i_n_t: there is a port, but it's not built by the build system 15.26.55 # because it's not done 15.26.57 # ok 15.27.06 # assuming it actually is the device he linked to earlier 15.29.40 # Torne: Wiki says "Port Status: 0%" ;) 15.30.20 # ..where? 15.30.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GoGearSA2920 15.30.46 # Ah...ooops 15.30.50 # I see what I did there 15.31.37 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.36.04 # Yes, there is indeed a port...but the "Please note that Rockbox is NOT ready for everyday use on the GoGear SA9200. It is still only meant for developers and testers." makes me believe that it isn't fit for this particular user. 15.36.17 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27766): Accept FS#11523 by Fred Bauer - fix a bug where the skin fonts dont check the correct path so it would load the same font twice when it shouldnt. 15.37.25 # That wiki page also hasn't seen any love for a long time, so, I'd be prepared to say that the port is stalled. 15.38.03 # r27766 build result: All green 15.39.50 # thats what i mean 15.39.53 # its green 15.40.00 # but thx for the help guys :) 15.40.15 # "Please note that Rockbox is NOT ready for everyday use on the GoGear SA9200. It is still only meant for developers and testers." 15.40.29 # * JdGordon thanks pixelma for the very curios remote not updating bug :) 15.42.05 # pixelma: do you know if that is the wps only? or the sbs also 15.42.46 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 15.42.50 # preetyboyswag: if your gogear is from 2010, are you *sure* it's the SA9200? 15.43.27 # * S_a_i_n_t assumed "from 2010" meant "I purchased it in 2010" 15.43.56 # S_a_i_n_t: "its the new one from 2010" 15.46.33 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@vpn10.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.47.24 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.47.32 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 15.48.53 Join krabador^^ [0] (~ubuntu@host63-56-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.50.27 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.51.16 # what about develop on archos av3xx? 15.51.33 # gevaerts: could You test FS#11531 on gigabeatf ? 15.52.11 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 15.52.13 # wodz: I can do that tonight. Anything specific to look out for? 15.53.11 # krabador^^: Have a look here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/NewPort 15.53.33 # and possibly here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/PortingHowTo 15.54.18 # gevaerts: 1) general playback 2) sound settings supported by hardware like bass, trebles. 15.54.32 # wodz: you can comma separate targets in *.lang 15.54.49 # kugel: good to know 15.54.58 # wodz: I can test general playback. I can try bass and treble, but last time I tried testing that for someone, I found that my ears aren't good enough 15.55.06 # and IIRC langtool can update the target in all languages for you 15.56.44 # gevaerts: I changed internal driver logic - from functional point of view it should be just as was before (the only thing added is bass cutoff and treble cutoff settings which defaults to the values used before) 15.56.50 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27767): Fix FS#11527 - remote wps/sbs doesnt update correctly 15.57.27 # @gevaerts 15.57.32 # its the newest Go Gear 15.57.36 # but i think its in the list 15.57.41 # of compability 15.57.49 # preetyboyswag: I'm *sure* it has a model number 15.57.59 # let me see 15.58.27 # r27767 build result: All green 15.59.01 # SA1ARA16K/02 Philips GoGear Ariaz 15.59.19 # There is no port for that device 15.59.31 # so why do You assume it is SA9200? 15.59.58 Quit storm` () 16.00.17 # i am sorry first i think it whos SA2985 becouse of the go gear model 16.00.18 # but its totaly different 16.00.20 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.00.23 # so i am sorry 16.02.38 Join sko [0] (~AndChat@82.113.121.2) 16.04.12 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 16.05.44 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16.06.38 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 16.06.43 # Why do the forums have two seperate places to log in on the main page? 16.07.07 # * S_a_i_n_t sees the "login button" and a "login panel" down the very bottom. 16.08.12 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.10.46 # mc2739: ping 16.15.05 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27768): Fix FS#11526 - %Vf() was acceptable on grey remotes with colour main 16.17.05 # r27768 build result: 4 errors, 17 warnings (jdgordon committed) 16.22.15 # anyone know if there is a #define for the databse tool? 16.22.20 # __PC_TOOL__ isnt good enough 16.22.28 # __PCTOOL__ even 16.25.23 Join freddyb [0] (~chatzilla@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 16.25.59 # JdGordon: Thanks 16.26.19 # no worries. thank you :) 16.26.57 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27769): fid red/yellow... does database really need to compile all of misc.c? 16.28.45 # r27769 build result: 120 errors, 17 warnings (jdgordon committed) 16.28.50 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.28.59 # oh poo 16.29.35 # JdGordon: the database tool builds :) 16.29.43 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 16.29.47 # as does the clip+ checkwps i bet 16.30.36 # * JdGordon is too tired for this 16.30.41 # why didnt that ork? 16.31.10 # did I put the -DCHECKWPS in the wrong place? 16.32.10 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27770): try again 16.34.06 # r27770 build result: All green 16.34.14 # yay :) 16.34.18 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.34.24 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.40.05 # S_a_i_n_t: you asked about AA fonts. 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The trick is getting the right combination of true type font and revision of convttf.c. 16.43.41 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.46.15 # Aha, thanks for the info freddyb....I don't really want something I have to "piss-around" with though. 16.46.24 # I kinda want it to "just work" 16.46.47 # I'll definitely have a look into it though, thanks. 16.48.48 Quit krabador^^ (Remote host closed the connection) 16.51.38 # If you play with it, just use the last patch on Flyspray. 16.51.48 # bye :) 16.51.49 Part oxman ("WeeChat 0.3.3-dev") 16.53.08 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.53.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.54.49 Quit sko (Quit: Bye) 16.58.30 Part LinusN 17.07.05 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-4d04ab78.pool.mediaWays.net) 17.07.12 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.12.54 Quit preetyboyswag (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 17.17.18 Quit freddyb (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100401213457]) 17.19.06 Part Zagor 17.20.41 Join captainkewll_ [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 17.20.52 Quit captainkewll_ (Client Quit) 17.28.21 Join sko [0] (~AndChat@82.113.121.2) 17.29.52 # kugel: I posted a new launcher icon for android at FS#11234 17.38.56 # sko: gonna try them 17.39.23 # not sure if I like the white border for the launcher right now, but it might be nice for the notification icon 17.43.07 Join aodsn [0] (~u42p@d040018.adsl.hansenet.de) 17.43.50 # does someone have a use for a rio karma with broken volume up button and half-broken wheel? 17.44.00 # does someone if there is a rio karma channel somewhere? 17.45.06 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 17.50.15 # i would donate it to some rockbox developer if you want to work on it :) 17.51.48 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.51.56 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 17.55.09 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 18.00.10 Quit tmzt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.02.39 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 18.08.50 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 18.09.18 Quit Temik|2 (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 18.13.12 Join unenana [0] (~unenana@ANantes-552-1-85-178.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.14.17 Quit sko (Quit: Bye) 18.14.50 Quit unenana (Client Quit) 18.15.58 Join sko [0] (~sko@p57A9ACB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.23.07 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.23.57 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 18.24.45 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 18.32.58 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 18.35.30 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 18.36.14 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.37.27 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.43.19 Quit stooo (Quit: Leaving.) 18.46.06 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.177.68) 18.51.31 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.131.249) 18.53.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.24 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-82-103.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 19.01.48 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.03.42 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.05.43 # bieber: I've looked into an about box yesterday (I mostly took the one from Rockbox Utility and added it to the Theme Editor) plus did a bit tweaking of the svnversion thingy 19.09.10 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-210-229-241.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 19.10.54 Quit sko (Quit: Leaving.) 19.12.45 Join slck_ [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 19.12.45 Quit slck (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.12.53 Nick slck_ is now known as slck (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 19.14.11 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797C72F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.19.36 Join Chronon [0] (~chronon@c-24-20-224-187.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 19.28.23 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 19.38.03 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 19.48.27 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 20.03.10 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 20.07.46 Join Diq [0] (~47ef3a99@giant.haxx.se) 20.08.21 # Hello! I have a problem with my Sansa Clip. 20.08.26 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C185.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.08.42 # It seems to crash on vorbis files all the time consistantly 20.08.53 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 20.09.10 # I have a v1 that does this, and a v2 that works fine with it (crashes but they all do) 20.09.12 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 20.09.35 # it can play mp3 without crashes though, which is the weird part 20.09.58 # Do you use the database or dircache? 20.10.01 # Is there a way for me to understand the debug codes? I googled them but they don't bring up anything 20.10.03 # is there something special about your vorbis files, maybe ID3 tags? 20.10.04 # No I don't 20.10.23 # Nothing, same files on a v2 and it doesn't crash 20.10.44 # I tried different firmwares and even changed the bootloader, same problem 20.11.14 # oh, didn't see the v1 and v2 part 20.11.39 # It might be faulty hardware, the stock plays it fine, but I'm not sure at this point 20.11.45 # I don't know how to diagnose it either 20.12.04 # * wodz reminds gevaerts about FS#11531 20.12.16 Join Ronald [0] (~Ronald@i178101.upc-i.chello.nl) 20.12.29 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36978&page=30 I'm Nausicaa in this thread have no idea what to do with it 20.12.33 # wodz: am I allowed to wait until after I finishdinner? 20.13.12 # Whats for dinner gevaerts? :) 20.13.14 # Diq: did you also try other codecs, WMA, AAC or so? 20.13.33 # No I haven't 20.13.49 # hmm 20.14.00 # Should I? 20.14.07 # Diq, what debug codes do you mean? 20.14.23 # Not debug sorry, should have said error 20.14.43 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) 20.15.50 # If its a hardware problem I can probably just get another one, but if its software related it might be helpful for the community 20.16.14 # I love your guy's work, you're the gold standard for me, if something doesn't run rockbox no matter what price i dont want it 20.17.10 # I know one difference if I'm not mistaken between the v1 and the v2 Clips that could have to do with the crashes (the former has less RAM) but I don't know what to do with that knowledge or what you could test. Sorry 20.17.19 # Diq, I think it's a software error in rockbox, the debug code seems to happen somewhere in RAM, the 0xEA000000 is some kind of jump instruction IIRC 20.17.47 # I used the iPod mini for 3 years, got a Cowon D2 during that time (hated it), and then got the clip 20.17.59 # I think we need a sample of an ogg that crashes it 20.18.05 # Okay, is there a patch I can get in SVN or is this unfixable for the time being? 20.19.13 # I'd say unfixable until we find out what is going on 20.19.16 # They're vorbis -1.0 I don't think the webclient supports PM does it? 20.20.07 # Diq: what version of rb are You using? 20.24.25 Quit Diq (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.25.42 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.25.51 Join Thanatos [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.25.56 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 20.28.12 # Hey I'm Diq my connection crashed 20.28.39 # Thanatos: what version of rb are You using? 20.29.11 # I have tried the latest one 20.29.14 # And older versions 20.30.02 # Currently I have r27758-100808 20.30.52 # 1) try files with different formats 2) check if it crashes with single file or any ogg vorbis 20.31.00 # Well 20.31.03 # It crashes with any of them 20.31.24 # As soon as I change to another vorbis file 20.31.30 # When it starts up sometimes it doesn't work 20.31.47 # I reset and it will play until the end, then it crashes when it transisions to the next vorbis file 20.32.21 # If I have an MP3 next though, it won't, so I tested it by putting ogg,mp3,ogg,mp3 and no crashes 20.32.42 # Weird huh? 20.32.42 # weird 20.32.44 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.34.07 # So I currently have no idea what to do, best dirty fix I can think of is just making playlists with half second mp3s and seeing if that will fix it 20.34.28 # Please try files from http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/. This are our standard test files and are known to be ok 20.34.50 # okay thanks 20.35.28 # Are codecs kept loaded and just reinitialised between tracks? 20.35.55 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.36.27 # And I saw in thread You ware linking that You had some fs corruption. Did You reinstalled rb after chkdsk? 20.39.28 Join Depressicaa [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.39.30 Quit Thanatos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.41.20 Join Thanatos [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.41.20 Quit Depressicaa (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.42.40 # Thats really weird, your vorbis files work fine 20.43.16 # gevaerts, I was thinking about that too 20.43.17 # Any reason that mines are bad? 20.43.38 # Does the clip v1 simulator have the same memory limits as the real target? 20.45.53 # Thanatos: we don't support certain types of vorbis files 20.45.57 # Oh hey, might be that it doesn't work on q -1.0 20.46.18 # maybe you were unlucky and got those 20.46.28 # I converted one of my songs to 096 and it works fine 20.47.12 # No I converted them myself, and I found out that q2.0 works 20.49.29 # My guess is that it's very likely related to the q = -1 settings, although even when we don't support (I don't know if we do or not), it shouldn't crash 20.50.07 # Okay so I've found out that the high compression files don't work on it 20.50.27 # I wonder why though, it works on my iPod mini and my v2 20.50.37 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.50.41 # perhaps it's FS#5796 20.50.52 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 20.53.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.53.15 # the last coment says floor vorbis files need vastly more memory during decoding. the clipv1 has only a small codec buffer (even compared to clipv2) 20.54.06 # is there a simple way to tell if a specific ogg is a floor-0 file? 20.54.25 # kugel: but why do they play fine if they weren't preceded by an ogg file? 20.56.00 # that I don't know 20.56.36 # it could be that the malloc is not properly reset in an ogg-ogg transition 20.57.47 # Floor files need more memory? That means that it will waste more battery right? Do you happen to know what is the most optimal file format at what bitrate generally? 20.58.40 # vorbis/wma are the most efficient ones 20.58.57 # lossy ones* 20.59.27 # muse pack is even more speedy 21.00.26 # Thanatos: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/CodecPerformanceComparison 21.00.27 # Thanatos: it possible be that chosing another encoder will result in working files 21.00.30 Quit Thanatos (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.00.52 Join Thanatos [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.01.00 # Thanatos: more memory doesn't really mean more battery in this case. The codecs get a fixed amount of memory to use, which might vary per player type, and since the clipv1 is rather limited in RAM, the codec buffer is going to be smaller than e.g. on the v2. This means that specific files that need lots of RAM to decode are more likely to fail on clipv1 than on clipv2, but since the memory is always allocated anyway it doesn't mean more battery 21.01.37 # Thanks for the technicals! 21.01.39 # Except of course that if *all* codecs can be made to need less RAM, that buffer could be reduced. *Then* it will be a battery gain 21.02.32 # gevaerts: more memory = more data to copy = more cpu cycles (that's how I understand this) 21.03.08 # only if all memory is used 21.03.15 # wodz: it could also mean more memory = less data to copy over and over again = less cpu cycles 21.03.35 # I don't think it's that straightforward 21.04.16 # in this case it's more *available* memory = same data to copy = same cpu cycles 21.05.17 # So basically its always the same memory used no matter what 21.07.11 # Yes. The CodecPerformanceComparison page is much more useful if you care about battery 21.12.06 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.12.18 Join preetyboyswag [0] (~543c1197@giant.haxx.se) 21.12.26 Join avacore^ [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 21.12.29 # that page is confusing me 21.12.48 # any germans here ? 21.12.52 # yes 21.13.05 # kennst du dich mit porten aus ? 21.13.14 # fastest speed at lowest cpu usage is what you're looking for I think 21.13.37 # for the clip v2, which of the tables would be what is it actually using 21.13.39 # preetyboyswag: please use private chat if you don't like english 21.13.48 # preetyboyswag: nope, and please talk english here anyways 21.14.00 # i can speak englisch dont worry :D 21.16.54 # well then i need have to wait for some porters from germany 21.19.19 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@97.100.193.48) 21.19.45 # quick noob question: 21.19.59 # are ipod photo (ipod 4g w/ color) batteries compatible with the black/white ipod 4g? 21.20.14 # yes i believe so 21.20.19 # yes 21.20.20 # oops, meant to put it in community 21.20.23 # but thanks 21.20.25 # ive switched them around 21.20.33 # Tarvis 21.20.38 # They are compatible with minis as well 21.20.38 # thanatos can u get me one haha :D 21.20.44 # i send u my new mp3 player xP 21.20.49 # I see 21.20.59 # ah, I got a "Vorbis: allocation failed" when switching ogg tracks a couple of times 21.21.01 # I've seen Mini batteries for pretty dirt cheap on ebay... 21.21.07 # (in the clip v1 sim) 21.21.11 # They all use the same amount just mini is smaller 21.21.23 # preetyboyswag what mp3 player? :p 21.21.33 # It isn't a Chinese clone is it? :p 21.21.48 # If you want you can get a battery off dealextreme.com or whatever free shipping too 21.21.50 # i would love to have a meizu again 21.22.04 # i bought a phillips today 8gb 21.22.09 # but its to low for me 21.22.14 # it plays videos and stuff 21.22.19 # and got 2 year garanty 21.22.51 # preetyboyswag: could you move this discussion to -comunity please? This channel is strictly for technical discussion 21.23.29 # alright wodz 21.24.20 # about meizu, is this still on rockbox roadmap or not ? 21.24.34 # i think so 21.24.39 # i dont think they are done 21.24.58 # GeekShadow, nothing important has happened for the meizus to progress in a year or so 21.25.18 # I got the D2 cause I thought rockbox would work on it soon 21.25.20 # and we don't really have roadmaps anyway 21.25.29 # But oh well I wouldn't have used it anyways 21.25.37 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.25.53 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 21.25.54 # guys its possible to get a mp3 player louder over the hex code 21.26.04 # As I said before, I can only help on testing, I don't have the knowledge to help on the porting 21.26.04 # becouse mine is going till volume 31 21.26.09 # but it still to low 21.27.00 # i think i can switch to a louder mode on my sansa clip+ 21.27.00 # You can get an amp or use lower ohm headphones 21.27.07 # or maybe tat was the original firmware 21.27.28 # oh the amp for mp3 players work good ? 21.27.29 # aodsn are you thinking of America vs Europe? 21.27.46 # Europe got that volume block shit 21.27.52 # Depends which one you get, but cmoy is very budget based and its pretty good 21.27.54 # no idea, something had two different loudness levels in the options 21.28.05 # Yeah thats the one 21.28.58 # preetyboyswag: once more, this channel is strictly about rockbox 21.29.57 # well i keep hope someday its gonna be easier to port rockbox to other devices 21.30.15 # the sansa clip+ is plenty loud with rockbox 21.38.34 Quit Chronon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.39.29 Quit Gabe_G23 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.41.47 # i would like to run http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison , is there a way to do so with a normal rockbox build? 21.41.54 # i dont seem to have the pluginyet 21.43.06 # aodsn: You have to have custom build with test plugins enabled 21.43.58 # Am I correct that FS#7138 can be closed? 21.44.11 # is building straightforward? i am on archlinux 21.45.19 # where do i find the source? 21.45.39 Join Nausicaa [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.45.41 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.45.49 # I guess the problem with the ogg file is that ogg_malloc_init/ogg_malloc_destroy is not called when playing several oggs in a row, I get an allocation failure in the clip v1 sim after switching between 2 ogg files a couple of times 21.46.01 Quit Thanatos (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.46.06 # does it support musepack? 21.46.17 # It crashed when I was using Q3 21.46.49 # Nausicaa: musepack should work, yes 21.47.00 # I get this error 21.47.09 # 300042C0 21.47.26 # address 0xFEF7745B 21.47.39 # aodsn: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile is good starting point 21.48.15 # wodz: cheers, i was following the "Daily builds, voices, fonts and source" link on http://build.rockbox.org/ 21.48.20 # maybe link to that site there 21.48.49 # The difference between the number of mallocs and frees increases by one at each two track changes 21.51.23 # This doesn't happen with an album of q5 (or so) vorbis files 21.51.37 # interesting 21.51.52 # oh, i need to install cross-compiling things. that looks like clutter i will not be able to remove easy later. anyone willing to build rockbox with the test plugins for sansa clip+ for me? :) 21.52.08 # bertrik: are you saying we have a memory leak on rockbox? :( 21.52.38 # aodsn: you can control where to install the toolchains 21.52.53 # kugel, looks like it 21.52.57 # kugel: yes, in a bit that ignores the rules and uses malloc anyway! 21.53.03 # unbelieveable 21.53.04 # aodsn: it's easy You install whole toolchain in separate directory 21.53.16 # I mean, really! 21.53.33 # this is ogg_malloc, ogg_free and friends, not in rockbox in general probably 21.53.54 # ok 21.56.41 # Oh way cool (not the leak, the fact it will be fixed) 21.57.16 # bertrik: the leak is supposed to not matter isn' it? I mean since we just restart the codecs on track change? 21.57.33 Join sko [0] (~sko@p57A9ACB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.58.12 # kugel, I think we don't do that between two vorbis files (looking at apps/codecs/vorbis.c) 21.59.15 # Oh crap my screen died I am very sad now 22.00.25 # ^^ 22.00.52 # yeah i am sad that i dont find a way to learn how to port rockbox 22.01.15 # Ah I 22.01.32 # 'fixed' it, I shouldn't have been breaking into my player for no reason 22.02.00 # You can always buy an older rockbox enabled player 22.02.55 # iPods are good choices since they're extremely common 22.04.03 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.06.55 # thats true but the sound quality sucks 22.07.16 # and with rockbox the ipod is workin for about only 1 H 22.07.31 # huh? 22.07.55 # gevaerts yes with rockbox eq on 22.07.57 # * gevaerts has seen 28 hour claims for the ipod video 22.08.02 # on the ipod 4g photo 22.08.10 Quit Tarvis (Quit: /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit) 22.08.27 # it takes 2 H if i got luck then i can recharge it 22.09.25 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 22.09.36 # It sounds like your battery is just old and bad, and you're blaming rockbox for that 22.09.42 # Well I've neverquality problems, and maybe it needs a new battery 22.10.57 # i think its becouse the battery only have 800 mAh 22.12.34 Join Gabe_G23 [0] (~gabe@173.216.69.8) 22.12.34 Quit Gabe_G23 (Changing host) 22.12.34 Join Gabe_G23 [0] (~gabe@bzflag/player/GabrielG) 22.13.07 # Are You saying that you discharge battery with ~0.5A current? Are you kidding? 22.14.27 # nope 22.14.46 # i just open my ipod 2 weeks ago to check it out 22.15.18 # and i got a old battiere from 2005 with 800 mAh i think becouse of that my rockbox died so fast 22.15.23 # yay, i am compiling :) 22.16.56 # 1) 5 years old battery is not near 800mAh 2) internal resistance of such bat is high probably. 22.17.27 # Does battery get hot when charging? 22.17.48 # it gets warm 22.17.48 # bertrik: the malloc buffer is intended to be flushed between every track change 22.17.48 # yeah the hole mp3 is gettin damn hot 22.17.49 # Does the battery look swollen? 22.17.57 # if its not, we probably broke it at some point 22.18.05 # betrik nope 22.18.19 # my fuze v2 gets quite warm when charging 22.18.28 # suggestion for the tools/rockboxdev.sh script: you already notice if the user cannot write to /usr/local, why not add "you can edit this script to install the toolchain to a local path" 22.18.53 # aodsn: no need to edit the script, just set the right environment variable 22.19.01 # or that 22.19.07 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.19.17 # saratoga, can you have a look at apps/codecs/vorbis.c around line 250? It looks like it goes to the next track there without reinitialising the ogg_malloc system 22.19.37 # i gonna bought a new battery on ebay then i gonna tell you guys thx for the help wodz 22.19.43 # i am a spoilt archlinux user, so those things are roadblocks for me 22.20.18 # aodsn: you got past it, so that sounds like an exaggeration 22.21.47 # gevaerts: yes, but only after you suggested it. the error sounded like it needed permission for /usr/local . the script is already nice and tells me the path to add to $PATH in the end, so to me it would feel natural to add a note that this is easily possible right in the error message 22.22.27 # bertrik: yes it looks like that was recently changed 22.22.35 # it used to call ogg_malloc_init(); on track change 22.22.41 # can i simply overwrite myplayer/.rockbox with the new one or should i rather remove it first? 22.23.08 # You can overwrite. 22.23.14 # lear broke it 22.23.25 # not sure why, there was even a comment explaining that it was needed 22.23.28 # thanks 22.24.48 # bertrik: try moving the ogg_malloc_init(); back below next_track 22.24.51 # should fix it i think 22.25.47 # saratoga: I'd assume that he thought it wasn't needed anymore since that commit added free() support 22.26.29 # its not real free support though since we don't have VM 22.26.39 # somehow the malloc/free difference doesn't change between tracks with my own vorbis tracks, but I see this diference increase with the offending vorbis file, so something's fishy in tje vorbis codec too 22.27.32 # unless you flush the malloc buffer, you'll still fragment it pretty quickly and then mallocs will fail, even if you call free everytime (which we probably don't) 22.27.50 # Oh another thing, I thing its a decoding problem in MPC files they have some sort of electronic clips in the audio 22.27.53 # indeed. The argument that reinitialising the thing isn't needed depends on everything being freed anyway 22.28.09 # At least in Sansa clip v1+v2 22.28.21 # previously our free didn't actually do anything, so i usually didn't bother making sure it was called 22.29.00 # I guess the ogg vorbis malloc/free just happens to work well enough for us not to notice before 22.29.25 # 11 months from commit :-) 22.29.56 # it'll work pretty well because the malloc buffer is currently huge, so it'll take a while to burn through it 22.30.15 # hmm not on the clipv1 though 22.31.54 # Nausicaa: file a bug report with the problem file 22.32.21 # How do I do that? 22.33.16 # bug tracker 22.33.19 # front page 22.38.43 # What do I put in for player type? 22.39.02 # Should be other right? I am not sure what SW-codec is 22.44.19 # saratoga: surely if everything is freed fragmentation shouldn't matter? 22.44.38 Part aodsn ("Leaving") 22.45.25 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.47.55 Quit seani (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 22.53.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.53.20 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.57.30 # Nausicaa, I made a fix that works in our simulator, I can you send a file to place in the .rockbox directory so you can test if it works on the player too 22.58.08 # Yes please!!! 22.59.36 Join seani [0] (~seani@109.224.128.185) 23.05.39 # Nausicaa, replace .rockbox/codecs/vorbis.codec with this file http://filebin.ca/tjuppy/vorbis.codec 23.08.22 Quit Nausicaa (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.08.29 Join Nausicaa [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.08.44 # bertrik thanks it works perfectly 23.10.16 # great 23.10.32 # Just wondering if MPC crashes in the simulator 23.11.03 # MPC doesn't seem to play for whatever reason it did play once before 23.11.23 # I don't really use it so no hurry, and thanks again! That was very fast. 23.12.34 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.15.55 Quit sko (Quit: Leaving.) 23.19.17 Quit preetyboyswag (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.19.54 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.20.23 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.117.12) 23.23.47 # kugel: hmm good point 23.24.00 # was still thinking of the weird old malloc 23.31.06 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 23.34.45 Join angelwolf71885 [0] (chatzilla@cpe-173-168-248-236.tampabay.res.rr.com) 23.40.31 Quit ender` (Quit: To err is human; to moo bovine.) 23.49.46 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.56.34 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.58.34 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.115)