--- Log for 16.08.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 1 hour ago 00.00.18 Quit h3po (Quit: Leaving.) 00.00.26 Quit Pat61_ (Quit: Page closed) 00.02.49 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.08.01 Quit Bullet` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.10.45 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 00.12.36 # thefirstM: to do this properly, we would need a vsync interrupt from the lcd 00.13.24 # if you yield too much, the kernel will think that you've got nothing to do and block the thread for too long, so you'll probably miss the sync pulse and yield even more 00.13.33 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.13.38 # ask a kernel expert for more details 00.13.55 # I figured that was what was happening. 00.14.03 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.14.13 Quit tchan (Changing host) 00.14.13 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 00.14.15 # Could the severity of the problem be reduced by using DMA? 00.14.23 # not much 00.14.32 # this will only offload the cpu from doing the actual data transfer 00.14.57 # (and will probably cause problems because other code will write to the framebuffer while it's still being transferred) 00.15.20 # i still don't quite get why it isn't running that thread if nothing else has work to do though 00.15.20 # I guess the OF can get away with this since it just doesn't do anything very graphically intensive? 00.15.33 # What thread? 00.15.55 # the thread that's waiting in that loop 00.16.15 # the of is probably written with these things in mind, with double buffering etc. 00.16.40 # there might actually be a way to get an interrupt on vsync, i just haven't figured it out yet 00.17.15 # some gpios seem to have strange undocumented command registers, which might actually be routing the signal to an interrupt input or whatever 00.17.50 # i even found one that switches the base clock for the whole soc from 32768Hz to 1843200Hz 00.18.04 # Weird. 00.18.10 # if we only had a datasheet for that thing... 00.18.21 # I thought there was? 00.19.07 # only for a similar one. and that's a leaked preliminary datasheet that isn't even accurate for the model it belongs to 00.19.22 # and apple has changed quite a few things compared to that 00.19.51 # Hopefully, they were smart and added an interrupt for vsync. 00.20.12 # Would it be a good idea for me to implement a user-controllable vsync option in the LCD settings menu? 00.20.47 # fell free to do so if you like it. i doubt it will be accepted into svn 00.21.17 # I am not trying for that at this point. Its just too slow. 00.21.24 # actually the GUI code should decide if it needs vsync or not 00.24.12 # If you find out anything about the interrupt, can you make a comment on the patch? It is FS#11544. 00.26.14 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.30.13 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 00.30.41 Quit markun (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.29 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.39.22 Join Pat61 [0] (6242fc7a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.66.252.122) 00.40.00 # I have read and done what it say to make a playlist of all my songs but it doesnt work 00.44.04 Quit ender` (Quit: Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.) 00.45.58 Quit Pat61 (Quit: Page closed) 00.45.58 Quit bluebrother (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.47.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.51.20 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.52.19 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.59.48 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00.59.53 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-053-244.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.01.58 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.12.04 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.13.20 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.15.45 Join [[sroracle]] [0] (sroracle@wikia/TheOracle23) 01.18.18 Part [[sroracle]] ("Exit") 01.21.12 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.30.61.79) 01.37.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.42.12 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 01.50.32 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.54.57 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 02.00.36 Join [[sroracle]] [0] (sroracle@wikia/TheOracle23) 02.00.38 # <[[sroracle]]> Hello 02.00.46 # <[[sroracle]]> How can I use Rockbox while its charging? 02.01.01 # <[[sroracle]]> mind this is charging through USB 02.01.13 # <[[sroracle]]> it becomes modal and I can't do anything until I eject it 02.01.22 # <[[sroracle]]> This is an iPod photo 02.02.31 # [[sroracle]]: Hold the "Menu" button while plugging in the USB. 02.03.30 # <[[sroracle]]> that boots into the original firmware though. 02.05.20 # It does? Hmm. Maybe it is different on the PP ipods... Check the manual. I am pretty sure there is a way to do it. 02.08.42 # once you are in rockbox, then hold menu while inserting usb 02.08.49 # or maybe select... check the manual 02.20.26 Quit thefirstM (Remote host closed the connection) 02.20.44 Join thefirstM [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 02.22.55 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.31.30 Join toffe82_ [0] (~chatzilla@ppp-71-142-14-6.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.33.05 Quit toffe82 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.47.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.53.01 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.03.11 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 03.06.47 Quit MagusG (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.07.10 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-76-97-148-35.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 03.34.52 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 03.40.51 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.60) 03.46.18 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-216-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.47.00 Quit hebz0rl (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.49.18 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 03.56.37 Quit simonrvn (Read error: No route to host) 04.06.10 Quit thefirstM (Remote host closed the connection) 04.11.20 # <[[sroracle]]> menu button seemed to override it 04.11.25 # <[[sroracle]]> but it didn't start charging either 04.11.44 # <[[sroracle]]> select didn't work 04.16.07 # you might have to enable a charge setting 04.16.42 # <[[sroracle]]> any idea which one? 04.19.49 # settings > general > system > battery > charge during usb 04.20.15 # <[[sroracle]]> I don't have that option 04.20.24 # <[[sroracle]]> only option under battery is battery size 04.20.28 # <[[sroracle]]> er 04.20.30 # <[[sroracle]]> battery capacity 04.20.52 # you need to update to a current build, not the release version 04.21.07 Quit hebz0rl_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 04.21.19 # <[[sroracle]]> okay 04.21.31 # <[[sroracle]]> How would I do that from rockbox utility? 04.21.42 # <[[sroracle]]> Or am I going to have to compile from the source? 04.21.56 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 04.22.41 # select the installation tab 04.22.52 # mc2739: re that bug: yeah I didnt tihnk it would be fixed, wishful tihnking... I might have a look tonight 04.23.36 # <[[sroracle]]> Ah there's a dialog to download a new version 04.25.36 # <[[sroracle]]> So now what? 04.28.59 # it might be a good idea to check out the manual: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1440008.5.2 04.31.14 # <[[sroracle]]> Yeah... I have an adapter to charge it from the mains. 04.31.45 # <[[sroracle]]> Only reason I've been charging it off the computer is because the mains charger didn't work in the first place 04.32.02 Part toffe82_ 04.43.15 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.47.07 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.47.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.48.04 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@adsl-76-205-71-99.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 04.49.20 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: Even if you're lying, please tell me everythings going to be fine.) 04.49.43 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.60) 04.50.23 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.50.25 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.50.26 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.50.29 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.50.40 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.50.41 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f7436.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.50.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.53.50 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.54.07 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.59.15 Quit clone4crw (Remote host closed the connection) 05.04.05 # anyone awake think there is any point adding a generic bar tag (which takes the min, max and another tag to do the magic) 05.04.25 # I think playlist position might be the only one that would be nice as a tag and isnt yet, but not sure 05.05.34 # In place of %pb? 05.05.34 # sure, yes in place of, or working with... 05.06.40 # not.....*really*,specific vert/horizontal tags I think are nice. 05.09.19 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FC62C32.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.14.17 # going for lunch, but now I'm confused a bit... :) 05.14.34 # Perhaps I was confused by your intention. 05.14.53 # I'm overly cautious of your ideas now ;) 05.16.44 # JdGordon|: Sounds like an interesting idea, not sure if it would really be worthwhile to code 05.16.54 # I just can't think of a whole lot of use for it 05.17.24 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 05.23.06 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.33.44 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.35.49 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FC63006.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.35.55 # bieber: right :) the thing is it would need almost no new code to do it, which is why I ask 05.36.18 # although I think it is probaly only one or two more uses so it would be just as easy to fix those tags like %pv 05.36.36 # That's what I'm thinking 05.36.45 # Just keep the skin language cleaner 05.39.16 # the slider addition last night really needs a way to get a subimage :/ the obvbious way is adding a tag param but that doesnt work with the N tag param type 05.39.44 # unless we decide to make N do "any tag type" and just make sure they are always checked 05.39.58 # Slider? 05.41.08 # the bar can now look like: [======= ] or [=======* ] or [ * ] where ='s are drawn (or bmp filled), and * is another image 05.41.43 # I guess you didnt see my appology last night? :) 05.46.49 # Nope 05.46.57 # And that's pretty nifty 05.47.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100815#16:17:16 05.48.12 # Ohhh, okay 05.48.29 # I'm working on a code walkthrough page on the wiki, btw 05.48.39 # I saw 05.49.49 # once its done I'll try adding the new stuff if you dont get to it first (probably good to let me do it though, help you see what docs needs more work) 05.51.17 # I won't have much of a choice, school's starting soon ;) 05.51.32 # Mah, the wiki thinks my class names are supposed to be Wiki topics 05.52.13 # I think you need to put ! before them to no wikilink them 05.52.44 # Surely, there must be a way to turn it off for the entire article? 05.52.52 # dunno 05.52.57 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 05.52.57 # * JdGordon| hates wiki editing :) 05.53.55 # Heh, me too 05.56.09 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 06.06.30 Join h3po [0] (~h3po@d033031.adsl.hansenet.de) 06.06.58 # * JdGordon| wishes skinning the lists would be simple :/ 06.07.30 # the best I've so far come up with is specifying two viewports, one for unselected items in the list and one for the current selection and then maggically draw them 06.07.50 # done sort of like the title viewport, but that wont work too well 06.10.38 # You mean the %pv lists? 06.10.57 # no, the ui lists 06.12.10 # the obvious goal would be to allow the menus to be drawn one way and the browsers/setting screens another 06.12.19 # think touchscreen 06.16.17 # annoyingly, doing it this way means scrolling wouldnt work in the non selected items 06.16.22 # which probably isnt such a bad thing 06.16.41 # does it now? 06.16.51 # Oh...right, if you force scroll...yeah. 06.17.02 # almost no lists use that because it looks like shit 06.17.42 # the other option is doing it the same was as the playlist viewer, but that means only text tags and one line... obviously images would be nice to have 06.18.00 # Lists don't scroll unless you ask them to, ...correct? 06.18.19 # not you... the code 06.18.59 Quit evilnick- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.19.03 # viewports would also allow fun stuff like icon mode menus 06.19.20 # And CustomWPS has warned us that scrolling lists looks like crap :P 06.19.28 # I was thinking about that the other day when you were playing with %Li 06.19.37 # (Icon Menus) 06.19.47 # Okay, I've briefly documented all the ThemeEditor code, I'm going to add a guide specific to adding/modifying tags 06.21.15 # EWALLOFTEXT :) 06.21.37 # beat me to it...errr...formatting ;) 06.23.05 # Why are all the classes listed as potential topics...that's weird. 06.24.07 # It's because my classes are all CamelCaseWithFirstLetterUppercase 06.24.21 # Which is the same format the wiki likes for topic names 06.24.51 # I'm sure there must be a way to turn off the auto-look-for-potential-topics thing for the whole article, I just need to find it 06.25.09 # each one probably needs escaping somehow. 06.25.19 # I *hate* editing that wiki. 06.25.25 # * JdGordon| asks in #foswiki 06.26.54 # maybe? 06.27.19 # Set NOAUTOLINK = on 06.27.31 # bieber: ^ try that 06.27.50 # What's the syntax for that? 06.27.56 # Just stick NOAUTOLINK = on at the top of the page? 06.28.00 # I tihnk so 06.28.13 # might need the set word also 06.28.15 # Won't that bork the *actual* links? 06.29.04 # * S_a_i_n_t decides that 18-Helvetica-Bold looks shite when aliased 06.29.38 # v looks warped. 06.29.39 Part Dhraakellian ("Meddle not in the affairs of ircops, for they are (not so) subtle, and quick to anger.") 06.30.10 # or use the block 06.30.11 # I insert all the links I want manually 06.30.22 # Set word? 06.30.53 # SET 06.31.18 Quit h3po (Quit: Leaving.) 06.32.23 # Oh, okay 06.32.57 # JdGordon|: conditional backdrops are in the too hard/not possible basket...yes? 06.33.17 # * S_a_i_n_t is trying to make an .sbs only theme, but wants two backdrops 06.33.36 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 06.33.58 # Oh...wait, I can set one with the .cfg...*duh* 06.34.52 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 06.35.07 # they are in the "not untill we have resizable skin buffers" basket 06.35.13 # Hmmm...this is looking possible. I *should* be able to squish my entire iLike theme into an .sbs file. 06.35.26 # conditionally chosing a backdorp image is simple, storing it is problematic 06.35.33 # Aha. 06.35.47 # no you cant 06.35.59 # you still need a wps, even if it is just %we 06.36.08 # and why the fuck would you want to! 06.36.17 # Ah...shit, yes...you're quite correct. 06.36.35 # are you trying to make it as complicated as possible :) 06.36.40 # Why not? bieber and I talked about it a while ago, and I wanted to test the water. 06.36.47 # And, yes. 06.36.50 # fair enough 06.36.59 # Almost everything would need to be %cs conditional ;) 06.37.05 # I mean, sure its doable, but messy on so many levels 06.37.17 # Okay, got my guide together as a draft, at least 06.37.18 # why? lots of conditional viewports 06.37.31 # Oh...yeah. Certainly. I like to test what I can/can't do with the skin engine though. 06.37.49 # * JdGordon| assumes you are driving yourself mad using only single letter viewport and image labels :D 06.38.09 # I don;t *have* to. 06.38.38 # lear made it so I can use %xl(foo,foo.bmp,0,0) - %xd(foo) 06.38.51 # but, I'd probably still, not. 06.38.59 # JdGordon|: The trick to your new %xd functionality will be to call children[indexofthetag]->evalTag(info, true, numberofsubimages) 06.39.00 # yeah, I saw that. I didnt mean to stop that working 06.39.27 # evalTag is a private function, but you'll be calling it from another instance of ParseTreeNode, so the compiler will be cool with it 06.39.41 # That'll get you the subimage number to display 06.40.16 # eek :) 06.42.17 # That should be the other tricky bit, otherwise just instantiate a new RBImage exactly like %xd does 06.42.21 Quit anewuser (Quit: FAMICOMPO 7 - August 15 Through August 31 JST - http://midr2.under.jp/compo/vol7/index.html) 06.42.25 # s/other/only 06.47.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.51.04 # arg, idiot proofing the sbs could be fun. If the list is skinnable it could be possible to write a .sbs which has no list setup :) 06.54.57 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 06.54.59 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 06.55.03 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 06.55.06 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 06.55.19 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 06.55.21 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 06.55.56 # * JdGordon| wants something to do 06.56.46 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 06.57.02 # %t :P 06.57.28 # not while at work I'm afraid :/ 06.57.41 # I did have a 30s look last night, nothing obvious 06.57.57 # Ah, I didn't realise you wanted a "work specific" something to do. 06.58.09 # Drink coffe and browse porn? 06.58.29 # dont drink coffee.. and probably not the best thing to do if I want to keep my job :) 06.58.31 # * S_a_i_n_t hands himself an extra e 07.03.53 Join LinusN [0] (linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.04.22 # I looked at %t a little and saw where the timeout is parsed and where the 2 sec timout is set, but not where it checks for the timeout param 07.05.17 # My finding only concluded that it is passing off the default 2 second value to everything 07.06.20 # that is also what I see reading the code, although it is very possible I am missing something 07.06.50 # Same here...skin code is a very advanced form of voodoo to me. 07.08.15 # timeout should be handled in umm.. skin_render.c render_alternator 07.08.44 # skin_render_alternator 07.09.00 # int next_change = alternator->last_change_tick + line->timeout; 07.09.14 # line->timeout might not be getting set properly 07.10.02 # in skin_parser.c: line->timeout = DEFAULT_SUBLINE_TIME_MULTIPLIER * TIMEOUT_UNIT; 07.10.19 # that's the 2 sec. default 07.10.24 # yep 07.10.26 # umm 07.10.30 # * JdGordon| needs to have a think 07.11.28 # and the timeout gets parsed by this: function = parse_timeout_tag; 07.11.42 # and that appears to work 07.12.03 # yes, after that line, if it is the TIMOUT tag, manually set curr_line->timeout = token->value.data.i 07.12.19 # or even in that function maybe 07.12.57 # hmm, something doesnt sound right... that wont make %?xx<%t(1)|%t(2)> work i think 07.13.05 # or maybe it will 07.13.07 # yeah, try that 07.13.34 # Interestingly, the themeeditor behaves differently...in this example line "%t(10foo;%t(20)Bar" the alternation is 10 - 2 - 10 - 2 07.13.55 # So, the first one is getting set, the second ignored. 07.14.13 # completly different code, so tell bieber :) 07.15.05 # S_a_i_n_t: Your actual code isn't like that, right? 07.15.09 # You're missing a ) 07.15.20 # yeah...I realised that just as you did. 07.15.24 # And, no...it isn;t ;) 07.15.50 # You mean it's alternating 10 seconds foo, 2 seconds bar, etc.? 07.15.53 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Read error: No route to host) 07.18.35 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (~st.lasciv@203.184.4.234) 07.24.47 # bieber: just saw what you said in the logs....yeah. 07.25.21 # JdGordon|: http://pastie.org/1094989 - works for the first %t and ignores the second %t 07.25.50 # as expected 07.26.22 # actually the second one should overwrite the first one 07.26.37 # assuiming you are saying %t(1)foo%t(2)barr 07.26.46 # actually, the first timeout is used for both 07.31.15 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.172) 07.33.05 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.34.08 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@209.34-ppp.3menatwork.com) 07.38.24 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.40.22 Join evilnick [0] (evilnick@ool-4a5909aa.dyn.optonline.net) 07.42.32 Join evilnick- [0] (~evilnick@ool-4a5909aa.dyn.optonline.net) 07.48.32 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 07.50.27 # mc2739: I'm confused.. what was your test line? 07.51.09 # bah, [Saint] try out his pastebin and let us know how it goes 07.51.14 # it should e along the right tracks 07.51.27 # <[Saint]> Is anyone able to refresh me (via PM, of course) as to what my wiki password is? 07.51.37 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: Will do. 07.51.53 # I assume only the swedes have that ability 07.51.58 # <[Saint]> Ah. 07.52.17 # %t(1)foo;%t(5)bar 07.52.31 # alternated at 1 sec each 07.52.42 # odd... 07.57.00 # <[Saint]> Gah...don't worry, I was "wiki-failing"...using my Forum ID as opposed to my wikiname. 07.57.10 # even odder - %t(5)foo;%t(1)bar alternates at 1 sec each 07.57.15 # <[Saint]> Do I attempt to inset me Nick in alphabetical order? 07.57.27 # yes 07.57.29 # <[Saint]> s/me/my/ 07.57.38 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 07.57.49 # <[Saint]> sooo..., is [ first or last? 07.58.02 # mc2739: that should be seen as 2 lines, so it *shold* work 07.58.07 # * [Saint] assumes first. 07.58.12 # [Saint]: in with the s's 07.59.12 # <[Saint]> [IDC]Dragon is right up top... 07.59.37 # <[Saint]> few nicks seem to have non alpha chars. 08.03.00 # so put it at the top 08.04.29 # <[Saint]> I'm totally wiki failing here...how do I inset something into the middle of a table, or, into it at all? 08.04.36 # <[Saint]> *insert 08.05.13 # first press edit 08.05.36 # <[Saint]> Yeas, I'm in the edit dialogue 08.05.54 Join Guest67949 [0] (~bjst@giant.haxx.se) 08.05.54 Quit Guest67949 (Changing host) 08.05.54 Join Guest67949 [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.13.03 Join mitk [0] (~mitk@195.117.162.130) 08.22.46 # <[Saint]> In terms of the wiki, what is ? is it the NOP I'm familiar with? "No Operation Perfermed"? 08.23.17 # 'don't parse this' 08.23.46 # <[Saint]> Aha, so I guess it is the one I'm familiar with. 08.24.01 # <[Saint]> Just wondering why some nicks have prepended to them. 08.25.41 # o they dont get turned into wikilinks 08.25.52 # <[Saint]> Aha...thanks. 08.26.50 # <[Saint]> noticed my email address is "st.lascivious@slingshotBLAH_BLAH.co.nz" is this something the wiki does to ward off scraping pages for addresses? 08.27.13 # <[Saint]> (the BLAH_BLAH is the part that I don't get...) 08.27.22 # yup 08.27.35 # * 2 08.29.05 Quit fyrestorm (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.44.08 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048141085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.46.36 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.46.39 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.47.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.01.10 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.04.03 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.05.02 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@201.119-ppp.3menatwork.com) 09.07.48 # <[Saint]> I'm (trying to) alphabetis(ing)e the IRC Nick List...what should I do with Nicks with numerical characters in them? 09.08.10 # <[Saint]> Does t0rn come before or after torne? 09.08.54 # just leave it :) 09.09.03 # <[Saint]> Also, capital letters....does Alex come before alex? 09.09.31 # <[Saint]> I figure if I can sort it out, I may as well...it will make it easier for people to add their nick in the correct place. 09.11.12 # I would replace numbers with letters and order accordingly 09.11.34 # and ordre by first alpha so you woulod be with s not [ 09.12.57 # <[Saint]> so, with numerical chars, I assume that the "0" in "t0rn" (example) is a "o"? 09.13.04 # yeah 09.13.10 # <[Saint]> Ok, sweet. 09.13.20 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.13.59 # * JdGordon| thinks about on demand skin loading again so better use the skin buffer 09.14.11 # <[Saint]> Capitals sorted alphabetically before lower case latters? O, sorted with lower case/capital mixed? 09.14.24 # <[Saint]> s/O/Or/ 09.14.33 # whatever feels right :) 09.16.35 # <[Saint]> well, personally I would use "Sammy, Soul, Terrence, sally, sambo' but I am not sure how common that form of sorting is. 09.19.00 Nick Guest67949 is now known as Zagor (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.26.27 # mc2739: you probably mean 2 seconds each, compare to playing time. 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Didn't think about && (*facepalm*) 11.10.56 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.11.00 # I thought you'd want || no? 11.11.07 # <[Saint]> Would #ifndef IPOD_NANO && IPOD_NANO2G work also? 11.11.11 # no 11.11.39 # pixelma: if you do || with !defined like this it's always true 11.11.40 # #if !(defined(IPOD_NANO) || defined(IPOD_NANO2G)) would work if you *really* want the || 11.11.47 Nick fleebailey33 is now known as flee_freenode (~fleebaile@unaffiliated/fleebailey33) 11.12.08 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.12.45 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...so, who's correct? ;) 11.12.47 # [Saint]: #ifdef and #ifndef check for a specific define. "IPOD_NANO && IPOD_NANO2G" is not a define, it's a boolean expression (if even that) 11.12.58 # either one, they are the same 11.13.44 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 11.13.45 # <[Saint]> Ah, right. Really I could achieve the same thing just by commenting/deleting the code...but, this is nicer. 11.13.56 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.14.04 # <[Saint]> And, those are the two targets I know to be choking on the section of code. 11.14.20 # missed the ! there 11.17.46 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 11.18.12 # <[Saint]> Hmmmmm, excluding lines 1808~1810 with that ifdef seems to fix the lag in Pictureflow. 11.19.17 # that ifdef is probably not the best way of doing it 11.19.34 # is it something with flash disks and not actually the nanos? 11.20.07 # <[Saint]> csavery did all his testing on a Fuze, and never reported the problem. 11.21.06 # <[Saint]> gah....I ifdeffed commented code...nice one hayden. 11.23.01 # <[Saint]> I don't actually want the !'s in that ifdef do I? Does that not make it "if *isn't* defined, do "? 11.23.34 # Isn't that what you actually asked for? 11.23.44 # "exclude specific targets" 11.24.25 # <[Saint]> Argh...yep. I just confused myself :| 11.24.32 # <[Saint]> H.E.L.P 11.26.38 # <[Saint]> The comment for the section of code I'm removing is "// allow audio to play when fast scrolling" but it doesn't seem to have any effect on playback with it removed. 11.33.24 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 11.34.22 Join angelwolf71885 [0] (chatzilla@cpe-173-168-248-236.tampabay.res.rr.com) 11.38.53 # <[Saint]> Why is the Nano2g CPU frequency such odd numbers? 47923200 ~ 191692800 compared to the Nano1g's 24000000~30000000 ~ 80000000? 11.39.16 # When I'm compiling a voice file, is there a standard way to set the speed? The espeak command line allows you to specify a brisker announcement - can I feed that through? 11.39.20 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: ^ 11.40.43 # <[Saint]> seani: IIUC it should just use the values your TTS engine is configured to. 11.40.59 # because its base clock has 1843200 Hz, and they tried to get a frequency close to 192MHz 11.41.27 # (which makes the APB run at a quarter of that, and when idling, the CPU syncs to that frequency) 11.41.57 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: I'm just wondering why not use nice clean numbers...but I suppose there is a lot more to it that I don't get. 11.42.36 # tell me how to derive a nice clean number from that base clock :) 11.42.38 # <[Saint]> what is the theoretical limit I could push the CPU to? 11.42.54 # the datasheet says 200MHz, there are reports that it also runs at 250 11.43.37 # <[Saint]> thefirstM said 250 also, but, I was sceptical of that personally. 11.43.39 # the AHB is currently running at 96MHz (claims to support 100), and the APB at 48 (should also support 100) 11.43.51 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27823): First step of completing the target rename in the manual. Some target specific options were already renamed in the rest of the source (e.g. see ... 11.44.12 # * TheSeven suggests just trying to push it while keeping that that 1:2:4 relationship for now 11.44.52 # raise Vcore to the voltage specified in the datasheet (we're currently undervolting it), and try increasing the pll dividers until it starts to get shaky 11.45.24 # you may also want to check power consumption at the different speeds 11.45.26 # <[Saint]> Beyond me I think ;) I don't want to cook the poor thing :P 11.45.52 # <[Saint]> though, I guess I have a few to spare...tinkering in that fashion probably isn;t worth it. 11.46.03 # r27823 build result: All green 11.48.13 # <[Saint]> Another thing I am wondering is how to force the samplerate to 44.1 11.48.59 # <[Saint]> In an FS task a user said that this fixes the issues with rockboy sound, but, I'm unsure he he achieved forcing the samplerate 11.49.09 # <[Saint]> (Nano2G) 11.56.14 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27824): Missed two files in r27823... 11.57.49 # r27824 build result: All green 12.03.03 # New commit by 03pixelma (r27825): Manual: replace target options with the more appropriate button pad options in the 'Screen scroll out of view' key mapping description. 12.03.30 Join Murat [0] (~5562a47c@giant.haxx.se) 12.04.11 Nick Murat is now known as Guest32432 (~5562a47c@giant.haxx.se) 12.04.16 Quit Guest32432 (Client Quit) 12.04.58 # r27825 build result: All green 12.05.45 Quit angelwolf71885 (Remote host closed the connection) 12.07.08 Join hpmaniac [0] (~5562a47c@giant.haxx.se) 12.07.53 # Doom is impossible at clip right? 12.09.59 Quit hpmaniac (Client Quit) 12.10.26 # <[Saint]> pixelma: ping? 12.10.55 # pong 12.11.01 # <[Saint]> BUTTON_|BUTTON_REPEAT == "long press"...yes? 12.11.48 # usually yes but where and why might be interesting too 12.12.07 Join webguest13 [0] (~5562a47c@giant.haxx.se) 12.12.54 Quit webguest13 (Client Quit) 12.12.55 # <[Saint]> Just trying to understand the keymaps a bit better, a long time ago I swapped the context menu on the iPods from "long select" to "long menu" 12.13.03 # <[Saint]> Just trying to remember how I did that. 12.13.47 Join Kitr88 [0] (Kitarist@BSN-210-246-117.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.14.22 # <[Saint]> IIRC I simply swapped the button sets for quickscreen and context menu, but I seem to remember it being more complicated than that. 12.16.32 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.18.37 Join angelwolf71885 [0] (chatzilla@cpe-173-168-248-236.tampabay.res.rr.com) 12.20.22 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.22.30 Part watto 12.23.13 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.24.12 # <[Saint]> Woo! yep, got it right apparently...thanks for confirming my suspicions pixelma 12.24.46 # <[Saint]> I'm not sure if you have an iPod, it's a small change...but it feels a lot better to use. (IMO) 12.35.27 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.36.23 # I don't and all my targets have "Select" and "Context menu" on the same button, so if that's changed with your keymap, I doubt it would feel better to me ;) 12.38.21 # <[Saint]> I just think (personally) that the context menu feels better/makes more sense being on the big button labled "Menu", and the quickscreen being on "long select" feels quite nice to me. 12.38.35 # <[Saint]> But, keymaps seem to be a very personal thing. 12.40.52 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27826): fix FS#11542 - %t() not working 12.42.26 # r27826 build result: All green 12.43.08 # [Saint]: let me know if that doesnt fix all cases 12.43.19 # * JdGordon wonders why mc2739 says his patch didnt work... 12.47.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.52.11 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.52.50 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.brig.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.54.43 # Bagder: any thoughts about making the rockbox git repo pushable so we dont need to do the git svn kludge? (assuming it can be kept in sync on the server end?) 13.00.38 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.14.01 # JdGordon: because I didn't patch in the right place, although you did say to try it in the function 13.14.29 # I blame the lateness of the hour 13.14.53 # still odd though, that should be equivilant 13.16.34 Join mikroflops_ [0] (~yogurt@90-224-31-157-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 13.17.04 # kugel: Maybe you know? Does HTC Wildfire with Android 2.1 suffers from this startForeground() bug? 13.17.19 # mitk: according to gevaerts yes 13.18.23 # * gevaerts is always a reliable source when it's about Android issues! 13.18.41 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.18.42 # When I tested it on a coworker's phone it seemed to not work properly in the background 13.18.56 # but it should be a lot better now 13.19.09 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.19.19 # kugel: Then Rockbox is usable only on foreground or is usable in background but without for example Eq 13.19.21 # ? 13.19.39 # I can actually use it, it only stutters a little, the wildfire should be the same 13.20.03 # I haven't tried the eq actually, but I expect it makes things worse 13.20.20 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.20.28 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.20.49 # but yes, without much dsp rockbox should work ok in the background 13.20.54 # Thanks. Have you apk for 320x240 anywhere? 13.21.42 # no but I can build you one 13.21.55 # will be great. Thanks 13.22.08 # however, the 240x320 cabbie has no touchscreen support so you need to use the strange grid mode (in the wps at least) 13.22.14 # pixelma: the 1 second each was with a patch I was testing, and even that was not not accurate as it was different betwwn the wps and sbs 13.22.36 # *between 13.23.32 # ugel: Will have fun trying it :) 13.23.45 # kugel^ 13.24.19 # * JdGordon is open to hearing specific problems with the fms now.... 13.26.03 # JdGordon: FS#11469 13.30.40 # mitk: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk 13.31.51 # apps/radio/radio.c is still a bloody mess :( 13.35.46 # kugel: Got it. Thanks 13.42.30 # mc2739: [Saint]: test a fms patch? 13.44.55 # JdGordon: sure 13.45.58 # the freq bar seems to be fubar :D 13.47.27 # http://pastebin.com/fSGyDfcN 13.47.30 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-165-14.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.47.33 # it might update too often though 13.47.41 # and yeah, the freq bar is broken, working on that now 13.47.51 # or at least in the hardcoded one 13.49.37 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.50.42 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 13.50.45 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.50.50 Join thefirstM [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 13.53.04 # yep, all good 13.54.07 # I have a new patch for the Chopper game that increases the framerate and responsiveness of the game. I was hoping maybe someone could try it out: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11545 13.55.55 # JdGordon: looks good, and the hardcoded frequency bar works too (just in the wrong direction) 13.59.22 Join will_ [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-99-135-11-252.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 13.59.48 # The link for the codec pack (codec_pack.zip) is broken on page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison 13.59.50 # The link is in the line with this text: 'encoder pack here which contains CLI encoders' 13.59.52 # I have a copy of the zip from 2008-04-18 if you want it. 14.02.29 # will_: the test files are here now: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/ 14.02.42 # does your copy have a file which is not at the new location? 14.03.42 # kugel: I think this is about encoders, not test files 14.03.47 # that will cost a lot more bandwidth than letting people encode them their selves. You sure? 14.04.28 # using a standard set of files guarantees they're identical, though 14.05.15 # will_: bandwidth is a not a problem IIUC 14.05.32 # the link was to DavideNYC's site if I see correctly, haven't seen him around often lately 14.06.56 # I wonder though if the encoders he packaged in there have new versions themselves though 14.07.21 # yes -- don't remember which ones -- maybe all. 14.07.41 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27827): Make %pb without any params work as expected 14.07.48 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27828): Fix FS#11469 - make the fms update as it should 14.09.20 # r27827 build result: All green 14.09.43 # kugel: touchscreen support for 240x320 needs changes in wps and maybe bmp only? Not in the code? 14.09.56 # yea 14.11.05 # r27828 build result: All green 14.11.29 Quit will_ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 14.11.35 # mc2739: have you got an updated theme to test FS#11349 with? 14.12.33 # actually, can you test that with svn again please? that one might of actually fixed it 14.16.56 # JdGordon: FS#11349 still fails with svn 14.20.39 Quit mitk (Quit: Leaving) 14.24.06 # yeaaaaahhhh 14.24.14 # # Prebuilt 240x320: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk 14.24.16 # \o/ 14.25.02 # mc2739: AFAICS that is the last major theming bug open, so if you have a theme which is updated then send it my way :) 14.26.36 # JdGordon: give me a few minutes to zip it up 14.28.50 Join earcar [0] (~carmine@host145-115-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.29.03 Quit earcar (Client Quit) 14.30.40 # JdGordon: FS#11524 is also annoying 14.31.21 # 11524 is miscategorised :p 14.31.48 # I assume it also happens on target but it doesn't result in a crash 14.33.00 # JdGordon: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-59ad87f9.html 14.33.18 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178118238.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.33.40 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 14.33.44 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178118238.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.33.48 Quit kugel (Changing host) 14.33.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.36.28 # is there any guide to touchscreen? sorry i can't find it 14.37.15 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178118166.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.37.29 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-216-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.37.35 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 14.37.41 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178118166.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.37.45 Quit kugel (Changing host) 14.37.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.38.22 # JdGordon: I'll be happy to change the category on FS#11524 if it will get it fixed sooner ;-) 14.38.51 # hehe no, I'm looking at it now... 14.38.55 # it doesnt crash gdb though 14.39.20 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048240025.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.39.24 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178118250.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.39.46 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 14.39.50 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178118250.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.39.54 Quit kugel (Changing host) 14.39.54 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.40.33 # ah, the one in the first comment does though 14.42.53 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.47.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.48.36 # circular bloody dependancy 14.50.38 # found 14.50.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TouchscreenInterface 14.51.07 # JdGordon: statusbar_classic.sbs triggers it as well 14.51.17 # found and fixed 14.53.25 # 'The touchscreen is currently used as a 3x3 grid of emulated "buttons".' - what is the bottom right "button"? 14.53.31 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27829): Fix FS#11524 - a sbs could crash on load 14.55.20 # r27829 build result: All green 14.55.24 Quit angelwolf71885 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 14.57.57 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049045174.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.58.27 # arg! found it :) 14.59.17 # JdGordon: the only other theme related bug I see is FS#11529 but I can't reproduce that now - maybe your pb commit fixed it 14.59.24 # mc2739: did you notice that you return to the context menu instead of the main menu? 15.00.56 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.01.00 # %cs is getting confused because the .fmr load is manually calling radio_Screen() instead of winding back throiugh the root menu which sets the current screen var 15.02.10 # time to get the hacksaw out! 15.04.53 Quit thefirstM (Remote host closed the connection) 15.05.14 Join thefirstM [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.09.56 Nick thefirstM is now known as mamarley (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.10.54 # mc2739: arg, I'm going to "fix" it by not automatically entering the fm screen... annoynigly this is a do_menu() limitation I tihnk 15.11.18 Quit mamarley (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 15.11.39 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.12.09 # why did it enter the fm screen? IIRC loading a wps doesn't show the wps 15.13.04 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p54B401D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.13.13 # who knows... old old old old OLD code 15.14.20 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 15.15.19 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 15.15.19 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.15.19 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g227207061.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.15.19 # oh this would be from when the filebrowser was the root function 15.15.19 Part LinusN 15.15.26 Part Zagor 15.15.42 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 15.16.04 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.16.09 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 15.16.28 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 15.16.32 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27830): "Fix" FS#11349... %cs got confused because for some reason when the root menu was introduced the fm preset loading was never fixed to go back through ... 15.16.49 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.17.31 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 15.17.48 # 4 open theme bugs, 3 are wont/cant-fix... one is no repro :) 15.17.50 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 15.18.01 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.18.11 # r27830 build result: All green 15.18.25 Quit krazykit (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 15.18.28 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~LambdaCal@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 15.21.43 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.22.12 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-165-14.mcn.bellsouth.net) 15.26.05 # JdGordon: loading .fms files is surely not old old old old code? :) 15.26.15 Quit tmzt (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.26.23 # fmr 15.27.10 Join tmzt [0] (~tmzt@adsl-76-253-139-161.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) 15.27.49 # ah the preset files 15.28.47 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 15.31.39 Join sko [0] (~sko@p57A993A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.32.10 Quit sko (Client Quit) 15.32.56 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A993A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.37.39 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.44.27 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.48.34 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f054210203.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.49.38 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p54B40111.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.50.59 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.56.26 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 15.57.58 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.58.52 Quit perfectdrug (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.02.35 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Is this a hardware thing? 16.45.14 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.46.16 # <[Saint]> seani: Check the keymaps...I'd say it is a keymap thing. 16.47.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.49.54 # indeed, it was hard to find a button for "resume" on the c200 and comes with the drawback that you can't force horizontal scrolling in the lists (to the right). It's probably on "Play" or something more suitable on the H100 16.51.26 # <[Saint]> Nano testers...? 16.51.30 # Saint: Thanks, I've been staring at them and can't work them out. It looks like ACTION_STD_NEXTREPEAT is the culprit but it's present in both. 16.52.01 # * [Saint] has a look... 16.52.13 # <[Saint]> seani: What is your desired effect? 16.53.57 # it's the ACTION_TREE_WPS if I remember correctly. You should be able to find the correct mapping in the manual too (file browser button table) 16.56.19 # I don't need to change anything, just explaining to AlexW how to jump to the WPS with long right, and being totally wrong about it. I'll RTFM, ta! 16.57.38 Quit kkurbjun (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.58.00 # * [Saint] stops messing with the H1X0 keymap... 16.58.01 # <[Saint]> ;) 16.59.20 # I'm pretty sure the H100 already has the action defined and most likely a better mapping than the c200 17.02.13 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-165-14.mcn.bellsouth.net) 17.02.21 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 17.03.45 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 17.05.25 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.07.47 Nick [Saint] is now known as S_a_i_n_t (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.172) 17.07.58 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@c-24-9-122-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 17.08.05 Quit kkurbjun (Changing host) 17.08.05 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@rockbox/developer/kkurbjun) 17.10.22 Join victortozo [0] (~victor@xaveco.lab.ic.unicamp.br) 17.13.37 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Bloody stupid if you ask me :-) 17.15.26 # Just like iPod 17.15.52 # Well, that's *one* way to do it, it also ends playback however. 17.16.28 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048070239.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.16.54 # looking at the keymaps is an awesome way of figuring out ways to do stuff you weren't aware of. 17.17.17 # the source is the best documentation :) 17.17.48 # seani: why stupid? 17.20.05 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.20.12 # I'd preferred if you could put it on a "play" button too on the c200 but then that's the "up" on the pad as well and mapping going up in lists to other buttons would feel unintuitive 17.22.43 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@adsl-80-165-14.mcn.bellsouth.net) 17.44.47 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g227209048.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.45.15 # where does the EQ code live? 17.45.40 # pixelma: it isn't, that's just my bitterness at having a more limited control set coming out :-) 17.47.37 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.56.14 Quit petur (Quit: bleargh) 18.01.40 Join h3po [0] (~h3po@c170094.adsl.hansenet.de) 18.04.20 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.04.25 # S_a_i_n_t: apps/eq* ? 18.05.06 # funman: Thanks...trying to figure out how that isangon guy added a 24 band EQ to his builds. 18.05.25 # he lists all the individual patches he applied iirc 18.05.58 # the EQ patch says "fs#_____24_band_eq" :/ 18.06.46 # sue him for GPL infrigement 18.06.46 # yup, yet another way the unofficial builds suck 18.06.51 # funman: he provides all the changes 18.06.55 # funman: just.. all in one big blob iirc 18.07.05 # so you have to pick apart which code changes are each of the 30+ things he changed 18.07.16 # some of which are on FS and some of which aren't 18.07.31 # i bet he has individual patches on his machine so just ask him to release this patch somewhere 18.07.37 # Yeah, I can't be assed downloading the source and diffing it, then trying to figure out which of the 5 unnamed patches it is :/ 18.08.02 # funman: I have attempted to contact him several times, I don;t think he wants to share. :/ 18.08.36 # did you get negative responses? 18.09.06 # None, at all. 18.09.21 # Tried email, contact through the forums, forum PM :/ 18.09.36 # wait till the end of the summer, it isn't necessarily him refusing to share, perhaps he's just busy doing something else. 18.09.55 # it's been about 4 months now. 18.12.20 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 18.12.22 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.12.24 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 18.12.26 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.12.37 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.12.46 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.19.32 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 18.27.04 Join CaptainKewll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 18.34.51 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.39.40 # mamarley: Nice work on chopper.rock by the way, runs great. 18.47.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.49.45 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A989B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.51.08 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-90-88.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 18.51.26 Quit [sko]1 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.53.03 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.131.249) 18.59.15 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) 19.09.04 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 19.16.34 # for the lamp plugin, is adding different colours as easy as I think it may be? ie. change "#define NUM_COLOURSETS X, then add the RGB values to the colourset list"? 19.16.41 # Or, am I missing something? 19.19.46 # try it 19.20.23 # * S_a_i_n_t googles some RGB values 19.21.12 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.22.14 # there is/was a patch in the tracker that added more colours but it was overengineered I think (not using RGB but something else, can't remember the details) 19.22.53 # yes, it uses HSV values and I've never understood HSV 19.31.55 # S_a_i_n_t: Thanks! It looks even better when running on a Nano2G with my vsync patch. 19.32.34 # mamarley: Interestingly...that Vsync patch makes my Nano2Gs run like a bag of ass. 19.32.41 # err..."badly" 19.33.16 # Perhaps it has something to do with you forcing your cpu up to 250? 19.33.23 # 19.33.37 # Yeah, it does make it slow. I have another modification that causes the CPU to boost whenever the backlight is on. That makes it alot better. 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Which player are you using? 20.26.20 # hmm, generating deps doesn't seem to benefit at all from multiple jobs and it has to go through a *lot* of files 20.26.40 # n1s: how are you testing that? 20.26.56 # especially since each plugin includes plugin.h and that includes almost all the headers in the core :) 20.27.00 # Generating deps should look at the number of CPU cores. It ignores -j numbers 20.27.01 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-169-253.mcn.bellsouth.net) 20.27.23 # gevaerts: The patch causes speed to be regulated much more smoothly than it is currently. Before, it ran at ~10fps on my Nano2G, now it runs at 60fps. 20.27.28 # gevaerts: ah, it ignores -j i tested with different j numbers indeed 20.27.57 # it still takes more than half of the time of a full rebuild with ccache for me 20.27.59 # mamarley: it runs fine on all players I've ever tested it on 20.28.12 # Does it run any more smoothly? It shoud. 20.28.22 # *should 20.28.56 # it definitely improves speed on chopper.rock for my Nano(s) 20.29.41 # S_a_i_n_t: Are they Nano1Gs, Nano2Gs, or both? I don't have any PP-targets to test it on. 20.29.49 # both 20.30.59 # The Nano1G didn;t seem to have much of a problem running it to begin with, and I don't recall what fps it ran at formerly...but it feels a lot smoother. I see the same changes in fps on the 2G that you do, however. 20.31.47 # Does it still run properly (with audio) on Archoses? 20.31.51 Join [sko]1 [0] (~sko]@p57A9A0D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.32.07 # I don't have an Archos to test it. 20.32.18 # Nor do I, sorry. 20.33.22 # It would be great if somebody could test it on a player with <=64 vertical pixels, since Chopper uses a different speed for those. I tried to keep the speed the same, but the Nano2G is my only player so I couldn't test it. 20.33.26 Quit [sko] (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.35.17 # mamarley: on gigabeat F it's smoother with your patch, but also definitely faster 20.36.43 # Probably because of the faster CPU speed. Maybe I should try adding some conditional statements to reduce initial speed for the Gigabeats? 20.37.42 # I don't see what's wrong with the original approach. It might need some tuning, but why throw out the entire mechanism? 20.38.01 # ideally the game speed shouldn't be dependant on the fps but that might be a little too much work to implement :) 20.38.36 # Because it sleeps for a long time in between drawing frames, causing low framerates. I am trying to increase the framerate, since the current framerate (at least on Nano2G) is practically unplayable. 20.38.55 # also the reason that it was slower on less tall screens is probably because it's a lot harder on those screens 20.39.03 Quit fyre^OS (Quit: Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!) 20.44.04 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.47.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.50.08 # I wouldn't say it was unplayable on the Nano2G 20.50.23 # This patch certaily makes it a lot smoother, but a lot harder also. 20.51.10 # Exactly. Improving the frame rate is fine, but it shouldn't be at the cost of game balance 21.02.39 Quit clone4crw (Quit: leaving) 21.08.07 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.232.106) 21.19.11 Part watto 21.21.13 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.22.00 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.131.249) 21.22.35 Quit jhMikeS (Disconnected by services) 21.22.35 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 21.22.50 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.26.40 Quit r0b- (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.26.46 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Bye) 21.26.51 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-217-7.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.27.56 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 21.42.21 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 21.43.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.45.08 # n1s: make deps does its own multicore handling. It wouldn't benefit from -j, and it can't use ccache 21.46.18 # i wanted to look at generating deps at the same time than compilation but bitmaps / langs complicate the thing 21.46.48 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@70.44.12.90.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 21.49.39 # amiconn: yeah, gevaerts pointed that out 21.53.16 Quit Kitr88 () 21.53.18 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-210-246-117.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 21.55.05 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.55.50 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-170-202.mcn.bellsouth.net) 21.58.14 Quit Bagder (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.58.59 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 22.02.29 Join perfectdrug [0] (~marko@p54B40111.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.12.04 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r27831): Android port: use Arrays.fill() instead of a for-loop for clearing a byte array 22.12.10 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r27832): Android port: add support for hardware keys ... 22.12.13 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r27833): Android port: simplify sending touch events from Java->C 22.12.28 # rapid-fire commit FTW 22.13.16 # Nice of him to wait until after gsoc :) 22.13.23 # S_a_i_n_t: git svn dcommit? 22.14.00 # r27831 build result: All green 22.16.10 # r27833 build result: All green 22.27.22 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 22.28.46 Quit [sko]1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.37.28 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.45.17 # Something is definitely wrong with pf. Frame rate drops a lot while background caching is running; observed both on H1x0 and Recorder. That shouldn't happen. 22.47.02 # amiconn: Glad you see it too ;) 22.47.06 # well...kinda. 22.47.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.47.44 # It used to drop a bit, that's normal. Now it feels like it drops to 1/10 of the speed, or even lower 22.47.49 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r27834): Android port: allow moving application to SD card on Froyo targets 22.48.40 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.49.04 # amiconn: Commenting/ifdeffing lines 1808 to 1810 in pictureflow.c worked a treat for me. 22.49.15 # It isn't as fast as it could be, but, a lot faster. 22.49.36 # r27834 build result: All green 22.50.30 # I need to run for now, if you find out anything more about pictureflow...please leave it for me in the logs. 22.50.53 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: Even if you're lying, please tell me everythings going to be fine.) 22.51.25 Join kisak [0] (~kisak@c-98-235-209-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 22.52.01 # the image of the HD200 on the build server page is incorrect 22.52.39 # do we have something closer to use? 22.55.00 # kisak: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11177 22.55.16 # which reminds me :D 22.59.09 Quit kkurbjun (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.02.37 Quit h3po (Quit: Leaving.) 23.04.52 # gah 23.05.00 # jpeg viewer is broken on archos 23.05.54 Join Ludo6431 [0] (~Ludo6431@AToulouse-554-1-55-159.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.10.19 Quit bluebrother (Quit: leaving) 23.12.08 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.12.54 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 23.16.48 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.17.40 Quit victortozo (Quit: leaving) 23.19.41 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-190-199.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.24.29 Quit Strife89 (Client Quit) 23.28.15 Quit ender` (Quit: The most important lesson we can learn from history is the inability of humans to learn lessons from history. -- Aldous Huxley) 23.30.30 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 23.31.28 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.34.32 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@c-24-9-122-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 23.36.14 # Why do animations in Rockbox run more slowly when there isn't any user input? This seems to happen on my Nano2G. 23.40.15 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 23.40.58 # It also happens with the stopwatch. It skips numbers unless I twirl the wheel or hold down a button. 23.43.08 # maybe some button waiting loops sleep too long 23.44.49 # I think the buttons on the nano2g use interrupts. 23.45.02 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.28) 23.46.16 # yes but the apps code reading the buttons is often designed as a loop that asks for a button and then does some things, this has a timeout to avoid spinning like crazy, if that timeout is long, pressing a button will make things happen noticably quicker 23.47.26 # That makes sense, but I also noticed that this happens with core things, such as animating disk access indicators in themes. Would the same thing cause it there? 23.48.17 # could be, i'm just saying it's a possiblity, it has happened before but i am not certain it's causing your problems :) 23.48.44 # Thanks :) 23.48.45 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.48.48 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.51.29 # the stopwatch has a button timeout of 10 ticks or about 0.1 second and judging from the counter it's updating at about that interval for me, is it slower for you? 23.51.30 Quit CaptainKewll (Quit: Page closed) 23.52.25 # That is exactly what is causing the problem then. Thanks for your help! 23.52.43 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.54.51 Quit literal (Remote host closed the connection) 23.55.49 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-120-161.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 23.56.12 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving)