--- Log for 19.08.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 1 hour ago 00.00.27 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.01.38 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 00.02.42 Quit guymann (Quit: brb world) 00.02.57 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.04.55 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 00.05.28 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-119-146.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 00.07.49 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.23.39 Join guymann [0] (~charlie@69.182.31.247) 00.24.29 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.26.17 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-174.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.29.57 Quit Ramsey[LC] (Quit: (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by MadHouse)))) 00.30.56 Join Ramsey[LC] [0] (~RamseyLC]@94.75.220.181) 00.35.47 # jhMikeS: ping 00.44.33 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.47.42 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 00.47.46 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.48.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.53.23 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.53.35 # When I make changes to keyboard.c, it doesn't seem to be picked up when I make - including make clean followed by make, for sim or target. What am I missing? 00.56.05 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 00.56.11 # seani: are you editing the right keyboard.c there are 2 IIRC 00.56.27 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.56.59 # apps/recorder/keyboard.c is the one you want unless you have the old charcell archos player 00.57.11 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 00.58.05 # n1s: Ah, my grepping with jedit revealed only one, in apps/player. Gah. Thanks! 00.59.38 # n1s: It also accounts for me being baffled as to how it could possibly behave the way it did when I looked at the code :-) 01.00.39 # i can believe that :) the dir structure is a little confusing, it's evolved organically over many years 01.01.13 # I agree with S_a_i_n_t / [St.] in the forums that this one-dimensional selection of characters would be very slow if you have as many characters as we do now (and I think a lot of them really need to be supported) 01.02.16 # and yes, the Player's vkeyboard is and must be different to the bitmap one because you can only have two lines of text with 11 characters each 01.02.22 Quit krazykit (Quit: bbl) 01.06.09 # (the first statement was about seani's suggestion in the forums, just to clarify) 01.08.30 # pixelma: I remain unconvinced that this is the case; the "speed" of the 2d system is illusory. Having considered it at length, I still maintain it's a case of getting the feel and details right. Only one way to find out... 01.08.57 # pixelma: And I'm quite happy to report that I'm wrong about it if that's what I find :-) 01.11.11 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 01.11.30 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.13.09 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 01.15.26 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 01.15.35 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 01.16.39 Part toffe82 01.19.10 # S_a_i_n_t: by which order of magnitude did you need to increase the nand stack size to make everything work ony your ipods? 01.26.39 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 01.28.09 # JdGordon: it once was possible to load WPSs at least from root too, it wasn't remembered across reboots though but you could use it for tests. I think there is a bug report for it already though 01.28.49 # the "at least" should belong to "WPS" rather than "root" 01.31.53 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.44.15 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.45.12 # anyone here have a zune? 01.47.05 # I don't think so 01.47.54 # my zune is stuck in revoery mode, ive tried every damn thing >:/ 01.48.10 Quit balintx (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 01.48.32 # that really isn't on-topic for this channel 01.48.52 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 02.00.03 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 02.02.22 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.03.42 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.04.53 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 02.07.40 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.15.11 # S_a_i_n_t: I would be really glad if you could bisect that stkov nand problem. Dozens of users seem to be suffering from it, and I can't reproduce it, no matter what I do 02.17.07 Join balintx_ [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 02.17.46 Join AzureSky [0] (~biteme@ashentech.broker.freenet6.net) 02.18.23 # just want to say, Love the change to how usb plugin is handled by RB on the fuze v2, i hated having to hold a button as i pugged in to charge!!! 02.18.28 Quit balintx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.19.23 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.25.21 Quit user890104 () 02.25.26 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 02.29.26 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 02.29.35 Quit balintx_ (Remote host closed the connection) 02.29.43 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.29.58 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@c-24-9-122-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.30.35 Quit balintx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.32.49 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.40.13 Quit kkurbjun (Changing host) 02.40.14 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@rockbox/developer/kkurbjun) 02.40.53 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 02.41.38 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.43.00 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@58.96.27.157) 02.43.00 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 02.43.00 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.44.23 Part AzureSky 02.45.31 Join AzureSky [0] (~biteme@ashentech.broker.freenet6.net) 02.46.36 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803c22e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.194.46) 02.48.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.51.47 # http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/18/sansa-fuze-leaks-out-with-slotradio-support-24-hours-of-batter/ 02.52.01 # wonder if its finally the mythincal AS3531 02.52.04 # mythical 02.53.11 # \O/ new target to hack on! :) 02.53.53 # would be nice if they added more than 1 microSD slot 02.54.06 # 320x240 oled :) 02.55.19 # why are they getting soexcited about slotradio/slotmusic? 02.55.30 # that screen shot doesn't look at lont sansa'ish though 02.55.44 # i would be happy with even first gen (sd2.x) sdxc support 02.56.04 # except for the writing at the top of course 02.56.40 Quit darkkrai (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.57.54 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 02.58.20 # from what this says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SDHC_and_SDXC_compatibility_issues first gen cards or cards that support current speeds (UHS104) should work in sdhc supporting devices, only problem is they are formated with exFAT not fat32 >.< 02.58.45 # interesting little device 02.59.51 # so, will there be rockbox for the fuze+? 03.00.55 # we can say, conclusivly... aboslutly... maybe 03.01.32 # lol 03.01.48 # if the price is right and the reviews are decent, i may grab one 03.03.11 # but then again, if its more then 2x the price of an 8gb referb fuze, why bother........may as well just stick with the cheaper device and put the money into getting either better headphones/earphones or a 32gb card :) 03.04.59 # think they might bring the view back as a replacement for the fuze? or any other dual core/dsp device 03.06.00 Quit komputes (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.06.09 # I could see them bringing out a view repacement, but not the view itself or even a view+, the view got horrible support and has a HORRIBLE rep(due to its abysmal firmware) 03.07.32 # you know, I could have even lived with an updated ver of the current fuze that was a bit thicker, give 16 and 32gb models, amoled screen and a larger batt and Most people would have been quite happy...... 03.07.39 # yeah, I had one for a little while 03.12.52 Quit balintx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.13.33 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 03.14.47 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 03.19.05 Join Jennifur [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-174.nycap.res.rr.com) 03.19.19 Quit bunnyboi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.26.23 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-71-154-233-247.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 03.52.12 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.02.09 Quit Jennifur (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.07.01 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCBA1D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.08.02 # seani: I like your vkeybpard idea 04.10.19 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.13.34 # daily manual builds seem to have problems again 04.14.47 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 04.21.56 # never mind, it must have been in the middle of the build 04.25.15 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 04.25.40 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.40.05 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.44.11 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.45.30 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.47.54 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.47.56 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f68b2.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.48.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.50.06 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.50.08 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.50.08 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.50.10 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.50.23 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.50.30 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.51.12 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.52.22 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 04.56.24 Quit anewuse3 (Quit: FAMICOMPO 7 - August 15 Through August 31 JST - http://midr2.under.jp/compo/vol7/index.html) 05.02.13 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.16.14 Quit jhMikeS () 05.26.07 Quit kkurbjun (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.30.12 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.38.32 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-75-45-240-174.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 05.38.32 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 05.38.32 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 05.40.59 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@c-24-9-122-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.45.41 # quick question, If I have an sd card thats partitioned into 2 parts both fat32 and stick it in a rockboxed fuze what would happen, would rockbox read it fine or would it bug out ? 06.08.49 Part toffe82 06.11.49 Quit timccccc1 (Quit: Leaving.) 06.11.59 # Not sure, but I seem to remember reading that Rockbox would only recognize the first partition. 06.34.52 Quit Ramsey[LC] (Quit: (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by MadHouse)))) 06.35.53 Join Ramsey[LC] [0] (~RamseyLC]@94.75.220.183) 06.39.45 Part AzureSky 06.40.42 Join AzureSky [0] 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Seems it has to do with the switching itself 11.36.24 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as Guest14878 (~fg@94-225-132-3.access.telenet.be) 11.37.31 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 11.38.28 Quit user890104 (*.net *.split) 11.38.44 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.40.01 Nick 77CAA3L9G is now known as MethoS- (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 11.40.08 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 11.40.12 Nick MethoS- is now known as MethoS-- (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 11.42.43 # doesn't happen on all theme switches, going from cabbiev2 or iCatcher to zezayer results in a reproducible crash though 11.43.23 # Run it in gdb? Where does it crash? 11.43.56 Quit Guest14878 (Changing host) 11.43.56 Join Guest14878 [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 11.44.00 Nick Guest14878 is now known as gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 11.44.12 # how do I run it in gdb? In standard mode there is no debug output at least 11.44.59 # Gdb rockboxui 11.45.02 # Then r 11.47.58 # that starts the sim and crashes as soon as I press a button 11.51.24 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2CFFA.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.53.56 # It should say where 11.56.29 # Or type bt which will dump more info 11.57.00 # that doesn't seem to help me at all as I can not do anything in the sim (not switch themes etc.). I played around a bit with it though - if I comment out the "%x(a,RockBoxWPSd.bmp,0,0)" at the top of zezayer.wps I can't reproduce the crash anymore 11.57.44 # weird though that the zezayer.wps works correctly even with this when it's loaded at boot 11.58.16 # Back in 20 11.58.39 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 12.03.41 Join Stephen___ [0] (~5347c520@giant.haxx.se) 12.04.28 # no joy with the x5 themes, with --debugwps it exits gracefully with no error. 12.07.46 # Stephen___: all themes? I only saw it when switching to zezayer (with a slightly older sim) 12.07.56 # I'll update now though 12.09.01 # maybe some of the new features also have to do with it (progressbar or so) 12.09.07 # there's one or two that will work, but some that do it everytime. 12.09.41 # i updated dfkt_maximum_aa it's also on the time site and that in particular is a culprit. 12.10.14 # maybe you can work out what the difference between working and non-working is, e.g. I commented out the %x at the top of zezayer and it didn't crash anymore 12.10.46 # r27804 (typoed the "4" earlier) 12.11.24 Quit MethoS-- (Remote host closed the connection) 12.11.41 # i'll use trial and error adn report back should I find anything outstanding, strange that it seems to be x5 only tho. 12.11.52 # any idea when i plug my ipod 5th gen into my car adapter the car wont read it? 12.12.02 # says incompatible device or something 12.12.17 # Stephen___: did you try other targets (with remote maybe?) 12.12.19 Quit Stephen___ (Quit: CGI:IRC) 12.15.30 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 12.18.23 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 12.18.54 Quit AndyI (*.net *.split) 12.18.54 Quit user890104 (*.net *.split) 12.19.07 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 12.19.07 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 12.27.48 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.29.47 # pixelma: (from your last night)... yes I know it used to be possible to load a wps outside of the wps folder... 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It doesn't happen on all switches and I can't make out a pattern anymore when exactly it'll hit but you just need to switch themes 2...3 times 14.39.29 # I have quite big patch for wm8750/wm8751 codec. It adds 3 new sound settings supported by this codec family: 1) Bass cutoff 2) Treble cutoff 3) Adaptive bass boost. Since this code is used in stable mrobe100 and gigabeatfx manual will need to get updated. Where to start looking? 14.39.47 # My appreciation for the AMS2 clock patch, it does seem to make a just-noticeable difference to the sound on my Clip+ (for the better) (or maybe that's just because I'm aware of what it did) 14.40.51 # pixelma: need more info... do the themes (either of them) use a sbs? 14.40.52 # wodz: isn't it a bit like the Ipod Video's hardware equaliser (which I think was unified with the software one)? 14.42.02 # pixelma: no 14.42.02 # JdGordon: I don't think so, they are all inbuilt themes. It also happens when just loading a WPS 14.42.02 # * JdGordon has %if() pretty much working :) 14.42.02 # fle a bug report 14.42.36 # sigh 14.43.18 # %?if(%pv, >=, -1) :) 14.43.37 # ooh 14.43.44 # * JdGordon appologises profusely for not particularly caring right now 14.43.50 # truly... 14.44.31 # pixelma: wm8750/51 can do bass tone control in two ways: 1) linear (thats what is used now in rb) -6 .. +9dB 2) adaptive 1 .. 15 where bass volume is amplified by variable gain (when bass volume is low it is amplified more than when bass volume is high) 14.44.38 # I once wrote a theme which declared anything over 0dB was 'too loud' 14.44.51 # %?if(%ia, =, %Ia) 14.46.30 # I look forward to some exciting new skins :) 14.47.07 # the problem I faced is that in linear mode settings have strict meaning (-6 .. +9dB) but in adaptive mode it is not so. Is there a way to change the way setting is displayed based on other setting? 14.48.12 # wodz: will you have another feature in feature.txt for these settings? 14.48.42 # I mean - introduce sound setting (for example 'bass boost mode') and based on the mode chosen display -6 .. +9db or 0 .. 15 14.48.48 # mathw: this could do with some extra testing/playing if you want to help out? 14.48.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.49.33 # pixelma: I don't know if this is worth 14.49.49 # wodz: I mean a feature to be used for the lang files and could help in the manual too 14.50.06 # JdGordon: No time, I'm afraid. Got a load of stuff to do in the next week or two. 14.51.17 # I have to look at other codecs datasheets if there is potential to introduce more general setting. I don't know if any other wm codec has comparable capabilities 14.53.29 # pixelma: Comming back to my question about settings do You know if this is possible? 14.54.08 # wodz: you can completly customise the settings, have a look at umm.. (1 sec) 14.54.32 # the gigabeast's codec has that hw eq thing and the settings for it 14.54.46 # s/'s/s'/ 14.55.00 # ... settings_list.c the CUSTOM_SETTING() macro. you need to implement 2 or 3 functions 14.55.25 # n1s: first one was correct I think, if you keep it "gigabeast"... 14.55.34 # 4 functions apparently 14.55.43 # and make your own UI to do the setting changing 14.56.09 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~LambdaCal@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 14.56.24 # n1s: gigabeats has 3d enhancement in common with wm8750/51 14.56.26 # pixelma: yeah, looks like it 14.56.35 # wodz: aha 14.56.52 # wodz: if these settings apply to three targets, a feature would make it more clear than a "mrobe100,gigabeatf,mpiohd200:" or something in the language file and I think they don't cost anything 14.57.37 # yeah, "features" (in the sense of having them in features.txt) are essentially free 14.57.48 # pixelma: ok, I'll take this into account 14.58.19 # and can be used for enabling/disabling parts in the respective manuals :) 14.59.12 # wodz: adding a feature is 3 lines in features.txt (2 of which are the #ifdef YOUR_NEW_DEFINE anyway 15.00.34 # JdGordon: about CUSTOM_SETTING() macro - is there some documentation or usual 'read the code'? 15.00.35 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.00.42 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 15.00.45 # the latter :) 15.01.00 # but I'm around to help if needed... 15.01.44 # it shuold be dead simple to implement 15.01.45 # what is is_change parameter? 15.02.07 # look at qs_is_changed() 15.02.25 # that needs to return true if the setting has changed from default (so it needs to be written to the config) 15.02.57 # the hardest part will be making the ui, but I can do that now for you if you want? 15.03.03 # just tell me how it needs to work 15.05.30 # in sound settings we need to introduce new setting ('bass mode' maybe?) with two choices: 1) linear 2) adaptive. Than based on this setting standard 'Bass' setting should display -6 .. +9dB for linear and 0 .. 15 for adaptive 15.08.15 Quit GodEater (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.09.50 # aa and I ask again - is there a reason that wm8751 driver lie to have min vol -73dB (everything below -67 is mute)? 15.10.28 # probably an accident that noone cared to fix 15.12.27 # wodz: could you merge the two types so a value of 0 will be -6 or 0 and just hope the user doesnt care about switchng between the modes? 15.12.54 # because if you could then it would be simpler (and allow users to put that on the quickscreen) 15.13.13 # I don't get 15.13.20 Join Ramsey[LC] [0] (~RamseyLC]@adsl-75-17-124-246.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 15.16.14 # both have 16 steps right? well if they share the same value in global_settings, we can set the formatter so the the display changes based on the mode setting 15.16.35 # but 0 liniear would equal 6 adaptive 15.18.05 Quit Ramsey[LC] (Remote host closed the connection) 15.18.26 Join Ramsey[LC] [0] (~RamseyLC]@95.211.87.139) 15.18.57 # they can share the same global_setting for value but we will need something do distinguish this two modes to handle low level settings 15.19.16 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Remote host closed the connection) 15.19.24 # you'd have another setting for the mode anyway right? 15.19.32 # yes 15.19.50 # so no problem. just make sure the low level stuff gets fixed for both 15.20.08 # this will be the easiest part for me :-) 15.20.12 # the only issue would be if the two values for "4" would be completly (and badly) different 15.20.50 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.21.10 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.30.22.127) 15.27.38 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.27.59 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 15.27.59 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 15.27.59 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 15.34.27 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.36.39 Join guymann_ [0] (~charlie@adsl-69-177-39-222.adsl.snet.net) 15.37.08 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.45.08 # JdGordon: drop me the note when You will have something. 15.45.12 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.47.15 # arg, crap... any git svn users around? 15.49.31 # * JdGordon hopes this works 15.49.36 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r27846): New skin tag: %if(, , [,option count]) which lets you do very simple logical comparissons on other tags. ... 15.49.47 # yay :) 15.50.35 # i see the wps syntax is evolving into a real programming language, just need some variables :) 15.51.04 # there is alreayd a patch for that :) 15.51.09 # r27846 build result: All green 15.51.09 # Can the wps parser be rewritten in wps? 15.51.19 # not yet 15.51.20 # working on it 15.52.36 # I'm not sure how useful variables would be, but a looping tag for animations would defintly go down well 15.52.56 # %xd(animation, %zz(1, 10)) 15.53.08 # %t(.1)%xd(animation, %zz(1, 10)) 15.55.49 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 15.56.10 # bieber_: ^ sorrry again :) 16.00.50 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.00.59 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.01.32 # on http://www.rockbox.org/ the Sponsors are invisible just for me? 16.02.45 # they've abandoned us! 16.03.08 # i can see them 16.03.26 # (if i turn off adblock) 16.05.24 # yeah, looks like it does its thing 16.07.45 # "##.sponsors" 16.07.47 # yes 16.07.49 # abp is that 16.09.20 # JdGordon: H300 and M5 sim crashes also with the same error, M3 does not 16.09.43 # at least not in a quick test 16.09.44 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.11.01 # that suggests remote again :/ 16.12.08 # ow do I link to an anchor in the wiki on the current page? 16.14.11 # like #some_link 16.14.12 # ? 16.21.34 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 16.21.34 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 16.21.34 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 16.22.05 Quit krazykit` (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 16.24.58 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.31.10 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.31.20 # Torne: ping 16.34.57 Part mathw 16.35.18 Quit Strife89 (Quit: ♪ Heigh ho, heigh ho, it's off to find work I go. ... ♪) 16.35.35 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 16.36.42 # kugel: hi 16.36.52 # kugel: Which revisions of SDK/NDK you are using for Android port? 16.37.11 # mitk: uhm, whatever the latest was 2 month ago 16.37.32 # mt: but you need to install the android-8 platform since mculenaere's change 16.37.36 # mitk: ^ 16.37.54 # Torne: I was having a bit of fun with the atexit() thing for plugins 16.37.58 # oh? 16.38.33 # I made a plugin_crt0.c so that the atext func is called on return too, do you think it's worth it? (codecs also have a codec_crt0.c) 16.39.33 # mitk: r4 for the ndk here but I think they've updated it since then 16.39.37 # kugel: NDK r4b June 2010, r3 March 2010. r4b? 16.39.42 # what do you mean, on return too? 16.39.47 # thanks 16.40.26 # Torne: yes 16.41.06 # http://pastie.org/1102183 16.41.30 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 16.42.05 # kugel: right 16.42.08 # that looks neat 16.42.43 # it removes the need for PLUGIN_HEADER in each plugin as well. it could also take over things from plugin_load (e.g. clearing bss) 16.43.02 # * Torne nods, that sounds like a good plan tbh 16.43.15 # go for it 16.43.56 # however, it slightly complicates usb handling 16.44.20 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.45.07 # many plugins have a cleanup() called from rb->default_event_handler_ex. that is called before the usb screen is entered, with atexit() it won't 16.47.04 Quit bieber_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.47.19 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 16.49.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.49.32 Quit kkurbjun (Changing host) 16.49.33 Join kkurbjun [0] (~kkurbjun@rockbox/developer/kkurbjun) 16.54.53 Part watto 16.58.59 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.59.16 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 17.02.56 Join dovshap [0] (~quassel@aa101.bhphotovideo.com) 17.04.57 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 17.10.48 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.11.21 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.30.22.127) 17.12.54 Join watto [0] (~watto@193.203.81.165) 17.13.37 Part Zagor 17.19.08 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.30.61.48) 17.22.10 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.22.56 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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I thought that player was too weird? 18.42.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaView <- short answer: no it hasn't 18.43.14 # dennis-p: yes you can delete all OF folders, they'll be recrated next time you boot OF 18.44.20 # Will the sample songs also be recreated? Those muck up the Cover Flow plugin. 18.46.09 # try and tell us 18.46.21 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.48.10 # In progress... :-) 18.49.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.49.11 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.49.19 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 18.50.25 # Love the gameboy on the Fuze, have to keep sound off but have dozens of games that work great with the input. Really glad Sandisk used micro swiches for everything. 18.52.03 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Archimedes@92.30.194.231) 18.52.30 # New commit by 03funman (r27847): Sansa AMSv2: don't prevent USB detection to work when rockbox USB stack is used ... 18.54.00 # r27847 build result: All green 18.54.00 # The Fuze does not connect to the iMac and on Linux it can only connect using the OF. 18.54.30 # v1 or v2? 18.54.32 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A9ADB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.54.34 # v1 18.54.57 # install a current build 18.55.12 # Fuse 2GB on Mac OS 10.3 18.56.15 # will that fix rockbox on Linux or even Mac OS 10.3? 18.57.00 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 19.03.10 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.131.249) 19.04.08 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.06.28 # I guess Mac OS 10.3 has troubled USB support? Although it does connect to View and e260 and anything under the sun, it cannot see the Fuze v1 under any Firmware. 19.09.01 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 19.09.52 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.131.249) 19.09.58 Quit parafin (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.10.39 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 19.12.09 # dennis-p: with Rockbox, did you try turning USB HID off (the old MacOS versions are known to have trouble with it). It is under settings > general settings > system 19.14.57 # Thank you very much for the tip, I will try that later today. 19.15.32 # funman: you're right, its definitely a an MPEG4 video decoder in there 19.15.50 # i thought I saw an IMDCT, but maybe it was just a regular DCT (or theres an audio decoder compiled in) 19.16.26 # funman, is gone I think. 19.16.41 # actually i guess there must be an audio decoder if they only load one library at a time 19.23.58 # Torne: :/ 19.35.13 # hmm, that %if causes quite some binsize increase 19.36.36 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 19.39.05 # kugel: yeah i think they forked, the View firmware doesn't seem to use the library system the AMS firmware does 19.39.36 # I haven't looked at the firmware I just thought from the pictures that it looks quite familiar 19.42.45 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 19.42.50 Quit Topy (Quit: Leaving) 19.43.01 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048032229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.43.06 Quit mitk (Quit: Leaving) 19.48.33 # bluebroth3r: it least it really adds a feature 19.55.08 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (simon@220.201-ppp.3menatwork.com) 19.56.42 # are we still concerned about binsize? 19.56.57 # sure, why not 19.57.45 # depends on how much you ifdef out old targets 19.58.00 # binsize is always important 19.59.13 Quit simonrvn (Disconnected by services) 19.59.49 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@72.0.216.74) 19.59.56 # pixelma, because we could sacrifice binsize to add new features 20.00.11 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-203-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.00.17 # what kind of bad thing happens when binsize is increased? 20.00.55 # bertrik: if the features are worthwhile, shure 20.01.13 # I thought it used to be important to be able to run from rom, but we're far past that AFAIK 20.01.52 # well, true, we *really* care about ramsize most of the time 20.02.05 # but the terms are used interchangeably by most people 20.05.06 # It's not only running from rom (which is still possible for the Player, but no other archos). It's also in order to not exceed loadable sizes, as well as not wasting ram 20.07.02 Quit simonrvn (Disconnected by services) 20.07.35 Join simonrvn_ [0] (simon@211.148-ppp.3menatwork.com) 20.07.54 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (simon@211.148-ppp.3menatwork.com) 20.08.29 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.08.40 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 20.09.22 # bertrik: available free RAM is also important for things like voice, increased binsize also decreases available RAM. In case of all lowmem targets it could also make a difference in runtime. 20.10.15 # to me it's also a matter of attitude - waste is waste even if it is only small for a certain case 20.12.35 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8ED9F.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.15.49 # of course, if a feature really adds something nice it's not "waste" (along the lines of what gevaerts said) - the limit for that is probably a personal thing though 20.18.18 # pixelma, hm, yes, I wonder if voice works for the clipv1 20.21.03 # speex has the advantage that it gives smaller voice file sizes for the same quality, maybe it does 20.27.10 # hi - is there any interested in accepting fs#8806? is there anything more I can do with it? 20.28.33 # aside from make it into a codec, which isn't really useful. 20.29.16 # why isn't it useful? 20.29.37 # the tasks mentions showing extra info from the files 20.29.38 # it would make playlisting wwork 20.30.27 # "Malloc with the files I've tested consumes up to 4MB (though I'm sure in some cases it will go well beyond); playback works comfortably with CODEC_BUFFER increased accordingly." 20.30.35 # well thats a good reason not to use the codec version of the patch 20.32.35 # i wonder why it needs so much memory though 20.33.17 # the current mod codec can deal with files larger than codec buffer, it only plays "simple" mod files though 20.34.39 # so we already have another mod decoder? 20.35.42 # for quite some time, it's not able to play all the files mikmod could though 20.36.55 # so would this patch disable that one or would both be included? 20.37.49 # and is there a technical reason mikmod needs to much memory? 20.38.11 # IIRC the mod format is quite old, hard to believe it uses so much memory given the limitations of its era 20.41.15 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178055011.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.41.35 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 20.41.41 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178055011.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.41.45 Quit kugel (Changing host) 20.41.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.41.57 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.29.246.166) 20.42.41 # I wouldn't want to disable the codec because as I said it makes playback easier as you don't have to chose each file separately (although I believe you needed to skip to the next file otherwise the current one would be repeated over and over, not sure if that's the case anymore or for all files; can't answer the other questions though 20.45.11 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.45.43 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Client Quit) 20.45.57 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.29.246.166) 20.47.36 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 20.47.37 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 20.47.58 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 20.49.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.50.55 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.51.00 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.55.34 Quit amiconn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.56.07 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.56.07 Quit pixelma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.56.18 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.56.22 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.57.34 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 20.59.08 # * toffe82 has a gigabeat F10 with dock and power supply for sale , in case nobody notice on the wiki 21.00.18 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4BC09.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.01.53 Part watto 21.06.19 # I have noticed, but nothing to do with :) 21.06.49 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.07.04 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.29.246.166) 21.15.17 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.17.06 # .mod files should play fine... I think there's a limit on channels/samples and sample size. Later formats like .it and .xm allow larger samples. I've seen some weighing in at a MB or two. 21.18.31 # "some" referring to individual samples, not entire files. 21.18.47 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@g231232247.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.19.07 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.19.13 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@g231232247.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.19.17 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.19.18 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.21.07 # btw it should be possible to disable mod looping in the codec... I think I'd modified it at some point to do that (and attempt to do proper scrubbing) 21.22.29 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178123151.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.22.51 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 21.22.55 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178123151.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.22.59 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.22.59 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.23.04 # Another idea I had was to break libmikmod into a separate lib so it could be used by both the plugin and codecs for .mod and whatever else would make sense or be possible further down the line 21.23.56 # captainkewlll, we can't really configure anything about a codec I guess 21.25.15 # There is a patch for stereo sid playback. I think it would be nice to have that, but even better if it would be possible to enable or disable stereo mode 21.25.20 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.25.43 # (meant as an example of some configurable codec thing) 21.26.33 # There are some c functions that libmikmod needs that are replaced by both the codec and plugin apis (string stuff) and I'm not sure how to juggle the defines between the two if I went that route. 21.27.49 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178057150.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.27.55 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.28.01 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178057150.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.28.15 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.28.15 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.28.46 # right, I was thinking more along the lines of using it just for straight rendering... aren't things like stereo vs mono handled independently of the codec anyway? Assuming the codec is in stereo in the first place. 21.29.33 # what exactly are mod "samples" 21.30.33 # Sound samples... like wavs saved into the file. Playback involves playing back the sounds in a sequence, mixed together. 21.30.38 # Think midi with instruments built in. 21.30.56 # ah so they're just raw PCM? 21.31.17 # Possibly? Not sure about the internals. 21.31.31 # is MOD actually compressed ? 21.31.56 # Not MOD... I think other formats like IT might be. 21.33.03 # so its just a bunch of PCM audio and some timing information to tell you how to mix it at playback? 21.33.22 # As I understand it, yes. 21.35.24 # MOD samples/instruments are just raw 8bit pcm (IIRC unsigned) 21.36.24 # Could someone else with a C2xx / E2xx confirm that the dedicated action to flip vkeyboard pages (SELECT+LEFT / RIGHT on C2xx, REC on E2xx) is broken / not usable? 21.36.52 # why not just mix the files in advance and distribute the PCM (or better yet FLAC)? 21.37.28 # a mod is a lot smaller than that :P 21.37.29 # saratoga_: It's smaller. Also, the patterns contain not just timing but also pitch/effect-Information 21.37.50 # its smaller because they repeat I guess? 21.38.07 # yes, each "sample" is used as an instrument 21.38.49 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.39.00 # then that is probably not going to work well with playback 21.39.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.39.47 Join steve|m [0] (~steve@p4FD47481.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.45.39 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178122147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.46.01 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 21.46.05 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178122147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.46.11 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.46.11 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.46.35 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.50.57 # Also can I nag about FS11042 - there's a bit more interest on the forum and it would be handy to know if any objections remain? 21.54.43 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-109-90-9-243.unitymediagroup.de) 21.55.21 # Where do I turn off USB HID under 3.6? I don't see it under settings > general settings > system 22.15.48 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 22.18.26 Join Sansation [0] (~koasdf@dlc42.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 22.18.58 # Hello, is stable rockbox release planned for Sansa Clipv2/Clip+ ?? 22.21.48 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.22.01 # not at the moment 22.22.49 # i am wondering if i should wait for "stable" or just install it right now =/ 22.23.05 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Don't follow me) 22.30.25 # the clip+ is working fine for me, hardly anything that isn't working 22.31.07 # (although recently I started noticing corruption in the WPS, not sure yet what causes that) 22.32.00 # wps/ 22.32.01 # ? 22.32.50 # the while-playing-screen, the screen that is shown while playing an audio file, showing playback progress, song name, etc. 22.33.37 # heh 22.33.43 # i just need basic functions 22.33.50 # i dont know much about rockbox thos 22.33.56 # is it somehow similar to unix 22.34.04 # no, not really 22.34.05 # where you cand ecide what to use and what not 22.34.17 # and if you dont want something, you wont load it with firmware? 22.35.31 # okay, does it at least come with repeat rack function? 22.35.42 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 22.36.06 # because Sansa original firmware has like no functions besides those few which developers wanted 22.36.09 # no folders neither 22.36.11 # heh 22.36.12 # there is a single main firmware binary, only codecs and plugins are dynamically loaded 22.36.31 # Sansation, we have user manuals that probably answer a lot of your questions 22.37.19 # how much space does rockbox take? 22.37.20 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.37.26 # original sansa firmware is like 200-300mb 22.37.38 # Yes, the manuals are awesomely well done, thanks for that any writer reading this! 22.38.04 # dennis-p: glad to hear this :) 22.39.01 # seani: flipping keyboard pages works on my c200 with an older revision though (and one at a time only). I'd expect the e200 keyboard having everything on one page so the action might be useless anyway 22.39.28 # Sansation, it varies a bit by player, but usually less than 10 MB 22.39.33 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@dslb-188-102-099-001.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.39.45 # wow 10mb... 22.39.50 # finally something normal 22.40.59 # bertrik: so, has your sansa clip+ got "REPLAY TRACK" option aviable on rockbox? 22.41.19 # seani: I just noticed that "slightly" is a bit of an underestimation, I'll update 22.42.04 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 22.42.35 # Sansation: Yes, it has repeat with single repeat. 22.42.41 # Sansation, yes, and we have several other repeat modes too 22.42.49 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-251.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.43.13 # cool 22.43.20 # well i found cool forum topic 22.43.21 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25490.0 22.43.24 # just read this 22.43.33 # post number #3 is hilarous 22.43.59 Quit Jaykay (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 22.46.00 # pixelma: Thanks. You can ignore the C240 question, it clumsy mistiming on my part pressing select+left/right 22.47.26 # yeah, I noticed that the "accept" action can hit too, should be looked into making this safer 22.48.37 # How fast is the clip cpu? comparable to e200? 22.49.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.49.19 # or fuze? 22.50.29 # Sansation: Then you should read the PDF manual for one of those on http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi 22.54.14 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 22.57.06 Quit captainkewlll (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.05.01 # dennis-p: the fuze and clip both use the same AMSv1 or AMSv2 CPUs 23.06.01 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Sull-10-73.rh.ncsu.edu) 23.19.30 Quit Sansation (Quit: leaving) 23.22.36 Quit h3po (Quit: Leaving.) 23.24.10 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.24.13 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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