--- Log for 22.08.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 1 hour ago 00.01.29 # Torne: ping 00.02.08 # yus? 00.02.33 # I sorted the usb thing out and I think the plugin_crt0 works nicely now 00.03.27 # http://pastie.org/1106673 00.04.43 # hm, http://pastie.org/1106676 (the previous diff lacks the new file) 00.05.17 # that looks pretty nice ) 00.06.54 # * gevaerts prefers DEADD0D0 as a magic number 00.08.32 # that's negative isn't it? I wanted to avoid a negative magic because error statuses are usually negative (if they're bad), no? 00.09.11 # well, it's dead, of course that's negative! 00.11.39 Join soft-n-fluffy [0] (~soft-n-fl@c-66-41-82-215.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.11.54 Quit soft-n-fluffy (Client Quit) 00.18.35 # bluebrother: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25550.0 00.18.43 # Can you check if rbutil does things wrong? 00.19.08 # domonokyL ^ 00.19.12 # domonoky: ^ 00.29.26 Join guymann [0] (~charlie@66-159-136-17.adsl.snet.net) 00.32.15 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 00.32.22 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.36.45 Quit GeekShad0w (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00.40.47 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048177127.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.41.00 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.50.17 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.50.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.52.34 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.232.106) 00.53.25 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.20.34 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 01.24.40 Quit ender` (Quit: The other day Windows told me I might be a victim of software counterfeiting. Funny, I always thought I was a beneficiary.) 01.26.50 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.38.47 Quit Misanthropos (Remote host closed the connection) 01.39.21 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r27856): Further upgrades of Cabbiev2 wps files to viewports - FS#11490 by HAyden Pearce and me 01.41.00 # r27856 build result: All green 01.58.47 Join h3po [0] (~h3po@p4FDE8059.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.03.56 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.04.23 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 02.05.17 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9BC2.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.19.45 Quit z35 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.24.04 Join Psychotc [0] (~no_spam@CPE0017c52585a9-CM0011ae92b75c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.26.19 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.27.39 Quit h3po (Quit: Leaving.) 02.28.08 Part fleebailey33 02.28.37 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 02.28.49 # Anyone online have experience with Toshiba gigabeats? I have a f10 that needs a new drive, and I am looking to see if anyone has tried a sd -> 50 pin ZIF adapter as a hdd replacement. 02.30.37 Quit CGL (Remote host closed the connection) 02.31.19 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.31.19 # Psychotc, well, the gigabeat F doesn't use a ZIF connection. it's 50-pin ata 02.32.00 # compact flash -> 50-pin ata adapters are known to work 02.33.04 # @Krazykit, yes, sorry I was looking at an ebay page that had the sd -> 50 pin&ZIF I forgot the & in my first question. 02.33.54 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.34.02 Quit z35 (Quit: Leaving) 02.37.52 # I was hoping someone had tried since It's much cheaper for me to get the sd adapter and use one of the many SD cards I have around the house. 02.44.35 Quit Battousai_ (Quit: Leaving) 02.44.41 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 02.50.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.34 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03.38.53 Part Psychotc 04.09.15 Join steve|m1 [0] (~steve@p4FD4589B.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.09.15 Quit steve|m (Disconnected by services) 04.09.47 Nick steve|m1 is now known as steve|m (~steve@p4FD4589B.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.10.39 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.19.27 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.25.14 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.28.55 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-251.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.32.00 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.33.37 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 04.35.59 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.40.37 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.45.31 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.46.52 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.46.54 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.47.09 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.47.12 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.47.13 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) 04.47.14 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.47.24 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fe625.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.47.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.50.21 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 04.50.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.51.53 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.53.02 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 05.04.12 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-251.mcn.bellsouth.net) 05.24.19 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.39.06 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 05.58.07 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 06.00.43 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.01.24 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 06.02.22 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 06.25.00 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.39.09 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@122.110.247.25) 06.45.05 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 06.50.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.00.48 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.04.32 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.07.20 Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.09.28 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.17.08 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8E8DB.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.26.06 Quit bunnyboi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.30.06 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 07.36.30 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.36.56 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8E8DB.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.12.50 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.13.42 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 08.13.57 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 08.14.11 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.14.25 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.14.42 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.14.48 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 08.14.57 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.15.12 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.15.38 Quit zu (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.16.12 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 08.16.56 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.17.19 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 08.18.00 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@90-224-31-157-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 08.18.49 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Ex-Chat) 08.36.01 Part toffe82 08.37.21 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.42.15 Join lazybum [0] (dcff0790@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.255.7.144) 08.43.26 # bieber: ping? 08.43.50 # Hi anyone can take a look at this wps? 08.43.54 # %wd # Progress bar etc. %V(0,1,-,8,1) %pb(0,0,128,6,pb.bmp) %x(a,pbbackground.bmp,0,0) %V(0,8,-,-,1) %al%pc%ac%?mp%ar%pt # Track info %V(0,17,-,-,1) %s%ac%?it<%it|Unknown Track> %V(0,27,-,-,1) %s%ac%?id<%id|Unknown Album> %?iy<%(%iy%)|> %V(0,37,-,-,1) %s%ac%?ia<%ia|Unknown Artist> # Playlist and codec info %V(0,47,-,-,1) %alPL:%pp/%pe%?ps< %(S%)|>%?mm<| %(R%)| %(R1%)| %(R%)| %(R%)> %arC:%fc %fb 08.43.59 # for clip+ 08.44.11 # pbbackground.bmp isn't appearing 08.44.40 # pastebin the wps 08.44.40 # for build r27856 08.44.44 # that is unreadable 08.45.01 # sorry how do you do that? 08.45.11 # or maybe i just paste the problematic part 08.45.17 # %x(a,pbbackground.bmp,0,0) 08.45.18 # http://pastebin.com/ 08.45.29 Quit eboyer93 () 08.46.19 # 1. %wd 2. # Progress bar etc. 3. %V(0,1,-,8,1) 4. %pb(0,0,128,6,pb.bmp) 5. %x(a,pbbackground.bmp,0,0) 6. %V(0,8,-,-,1) 7. %al%pc%ac%?mp%ar%pt 8. 9. # Track info 10. %V(0,17,-,-,1) 11. %s%ac%?it<%it|Unknown Track> 12. %V(0,27,-,-,1) 13. %s%ac%?id<%id|Unknown Album> %?iy<%(%iy%)|> 14. 08.46.22 # hmm 08.48.06 # oh you mean the link? http://pastebin.com/YheARjJU 08.48.31 # yeah anyway it works on the sim though 08.50.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.59.55 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 09.07.53 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 09.09.48 Quit sinthetek (Read error: Operation timed out) 09.14.08 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-239-037.triad.res.rr.com) 09.14.10 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 09.14.10 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 09.16.18 Quit lazybum (Quit: Page closed) 09.23.27 Join midgey [0] (~tjross@rockbox/developer/midgey) 09.23.38 Quit midgey (Client Quit) 09.34.03 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC9823.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.37.57 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.54.12 Quit tmzt (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.55.07 Join tmzt [0] (~tmzt@76.253.139.161) 10.25.48 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 10.35.41 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4B11C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.39.39 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10.44.08 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.50.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.14.27 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.42.34 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 11.43.41 Join h3po [0] (~h3po@p4FDE8ABF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.53.48 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC57AAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.05.42 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4B11C.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.29.11 Quit Kohlrabi (Quit: leaving) 12.31.06 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~quassel@2a01:608:ffff:2619:216:3eff:fe00:7e5a) 12.32.17 Quit Kohlrabi (Remote host closed the connection) 12.33.29 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~quassel@2a01:608:ffff:2619:216:3eff:fe00:7e5a) 12.34.16 Quit Kohlrabi (Remote host closed the connection) 12.34.18 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~quassel@2a01:608:ffff:2619:216:3eff:fe00:7e5a) 12.37.21 Quit Kohlrabi (Remote host closed the connection) 12.37.28 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~quassel@2a01:608:ffff:2619:216:3eff:fe00:7e5a) 12.43.52 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 12.46.34 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.50.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.54.17 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-83-233-243-194.cust.bredband2.com) 12.56.51 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.07.59 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.11.42 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.13.51 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 13.13.56 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.17.32 Join banan_ [0] (~banan@c-83-233-243-194.cust.bredband2.com) 13.18.43 # * JdGordon has no clue how the theme editor code works :/ 13.51.10 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@84.25.7.202) 14.10.30 # * amiconn needs to find out who^H^H^H what commit broke hwcodec playback :( 14.11.20 # Grabbed my recorder for the weekend and it's unusable 14.19.06 Join rubenverweij_ [0] (52aaa110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.170.161.16) 14.21.06 # hi all! my little brother found a fake ipod nano and I would like to try and install Rockbox on it. lsusb says it's an "Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd D-Wave 2GB MP4 Player / AK1025 MP3/MP4 Player". I have two questions: is there some other command I can run to get more info about the device and is there any hope of installing Rockbox on it? Thank you in advance! 14.21.21 # no, no hope 14.22.27 # @n1s: Okay, thanks. Is it also not possible to try and install it manually? 14.22.51 # not unless you port it yourself 14.23.29 # rubenverweij_: rockbox will not work on that player unless it's ported, the fact that it *looks* like an ipod doesn't matter 14.23.40 # Well, then I'll just leave the crappy Chinese interface on it ;-). Thanks for your time and help! 14.25.28 Quit merbanan (Quit: Leaving) 14.28.55 Part rubenverweij_ 14.39.35 # JdGordon: Don't know if you caught my message earlier, I was just wondering if you could set up a wiki page and/or send an ML message with all the changes you've been making in one place 14.39.55 # hey, (nice timing), yeah i did see that 14.40.34 # I wanted to do the work myself but got completly lost in the code :p 14.48.56 # bieber: having an early night... http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=27846 (completly new tag), http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=27821 (bar drawing changes) http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=27812 and 27813 (changes to %xl/%xd) 14.49.39 Quit Highlander (Quit: Quitte) 14.50.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.54.40 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.54.48 Quit Kohlrabi (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Where? 18.30.56 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-109-90-9-243.unitymediagroup.de) 18.31.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaExpressPort#Recovery_Mode 18.31.41 # ive found the same recovery interface on my device but i cant get it to communicate 18.31.55 # i just have a 0x81 in isochronous endpoint 18.32.05 # every request/write/read times out 18.32.47 # Ah right, MarcGuay did some work on it 18.33.12 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@89.142.86.141) 18.34.09 # If you only have an isochronous endpoint, it's not the same recovery interface 18.34.19 # its the same chip tho 18.36.56 # As it's quiet, can someone look at committing FS11042 or give me a clue why it won't be committed? I think I've addressed the objections that existed to it. 18.38.20 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.38.27 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 18.41.28 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p54851BDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.41.42 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228143037.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.47.52 Join banan_ [0] (~banan@c-94-255-214-103.cust.bredband2.com) 18.50.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.52.41 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.52.47 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 18.53.13 # http://mympx.org/forum/dead-players/39755-sigmatel-recovery-guide-updated-4.html 18.53.22 # scsi cmds :D 18.53.35 # too bad i cant find a fuckin way to send em 18.53.41 Quit earcar (Quit: bye) 18.54.06 # TheLemonMan: what OS are you using? 18.54.16 # linux 18.54.27 # sg3-utils should have something helpful then 18.55.04 Join Zaphodie [0] (~575f7312@giant.haxx.se) 18.55.13 # Hi 18.55.30 # ill try that :) but i think will fail as its recognized as an hid 18.55.49 # ive written some custom code to send commands but no luck 18.56.14 # Anyone here to ask a couple of possibly stupid questions... 18.57.57 # Zaphodie: we can't know that unless we know the questions 18.59.51 # Right. ipod 3g, why can't i connect to my computer via usb (or: why doesent xp see the device as a standard drive while running rockbox 3.6 stable) have to reboot to original. 19.01.06 # And is there any hope of getting a working LUA implementation in the forseable future. Can't get most of anything to work.. sure i can draw some lines etc, but the implementation seems broken. 19.02.32 # Zaphodie: the first one is easy: because we don't have a USB driver, or as far as I know even a datasheet for the USB controller in the 3g 19.02.53 # Right.. i see how that can bring things to a halt.. :/ 19.04.19 # I can't answer your LUA question. I personally never used it, nor do I actually know lua 19.07.14 Quit z35 (Quit: Leaving) 19.21.49 # i tried pretty everything D: timeout errors 19.25.51 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 19.32.59 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.36.48 Quit Zaphodie (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 19.40.45 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 19.43.33 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.47.13 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.29.246.227) 19.49.09 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.53.08 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.57.47 Join Zaphodie [0] (~575f7312@giant.haxx.se) 19.59.42 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 20.04.30 # I'm allso interested in the innards and specs for the g3 ipod, is there a centeral repository for the docs on the device? I'm looking to do some rudimentary programming and it would help to know what the platform is capable of. 20.16.48 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 20.16.58 # Zaphodie: hi 20.17.13 # i just read the logs and i'm curious to know which problems you have with LUA 20.17.45 # i am not a very skilled LUA coder but i had no problems writing a few scripts and running them in rockbox 20.19.47 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 20.20.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 20.20.26 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 20.20.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.23.40 Join saratoga_ [0] (463f90ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.63.144.237) 20.23.56 # It was a while back, but as i recall i could not get any text I/O to work. and even the script that's supposed to enumerate the api into rb.txt failed. I can give you the errors later when I'we finished backing up the pod. (and can boot back into rockbox 20.25.32 # I did mamage to draw a bunch of lines and boxes and such on the screen. 20.29.51 # text I/O : display text strings on the screen? 20.29.56 # Zaphodie: we don't have docs for the SoC in the ipod 3g, if we have docs for the other hardware they probably are in the wiki 20.32.42 # funman, if I recall that was one of the problems when i dabbled with it. 20.33.55 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.131.249) 20.35.30 Quit TheLemonMan (Remote host closed the connection) 20.45.25 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~sonia@ppp-162-215.32-151.iol.it) 20.47.58 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 20.50.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.59.38 Join terriblebanter [0] (~terribleb@ip68-227-164-159.om.om.cox.net) 20.59.39 Join earcar_ [0] (~carmine@host145-115-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.59.54 Quit earcar_ (Client Quit) 21.01.02 # domonoky1: no news from the TTS project? 21.01.14 # Can you get a command prompt on rockbox and install stuff like perl or ruby? 21.01.45 # nope, he never returned my last emails, and we failed him on midterm. 21.01.47 # nope 21.04.01 # terriblebanter: there's a lua interpreter but no prompt 21.04.17 # Hmmh. If the forums would have a subforum under hardware for all the different targets, it would make it a little bit easier to find stuff relevant to one's platform. Just my 2 cents. 21.04.49 # Zaphodie: if the forum had a subforum for each target it would be a nightmare of 40+ subforums 21.05.42 # Now it's a mess of 75 subpages of everyhting in a soup. Don't really know which is worse. 21.05.52 # Zaphodie: we used to have something like that and it worked poorly 21.06.16 # you can search the hardware forum only for your target's name, and then browse the topic titles. 21.06.21 # Right.. i'm terribly new at this rockbox stuff.. so maybe i'll lurk more, before aking a fool of myself. 21.06.51 # Right, soap. 21.06.52 # I think the moderators have been good about ensuring the proper device name is stated in all relevant threads. I'll pay more attention to that. 21.07.01 # theres very little reason to search for a specific target in the forums since most things are not target specific 21.07.23 # we are talking about the hardware subforum, though, saratoga_ 21.07.45 # yeah, which has very few posts, since theres not all that much to talk about 21.07.50 # ;) 21.08.16 # Can you get command prompt on rockboxie? 21.08.33 # terriblebanter: no 21.08.39 # there isn't one 21.09.16 # oh 21.10.08 # anyone with a wikipedia account feel like updating the rockbox entry to use this as the main image instead of the menus: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/rockbox-gigabeatf-cabbiev2.png 21.10.24 # rasher says its CC-BY 21.10.50 # Er the album art image is, the cabbiev2 images are cc-by-sa 21.10.53 # I found my old g3 ipod (40g) and it's so retro. I just can't get enough of the thing. I was SO bummed with the original os, so finding rockbox (while it was 3.2 or something) was a breath of fresh air. So i'we been thinking of writing some kind so a strategy game on it that would fit the UI of the 4 buttons and the wheel.. Maybe i have to go for C.. I was hoping for LUA. 21.11.22 # 5 buttons... 21.11.22 # asm is the way 21.12.26 # Asm _is_ the way but x86 was enough and i was young then. So preferably LUA, if not then C. 21.12.53 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 4.0b5pre/20100821031055]) 21.12.55 # ASM is not the way 21.13.02 # using it for a strategy game is dumb 21.13.10 # it sure would be 21.13.23 # and would probably be rejected since it wouldn't run on like half our targets 21.13.33 # $100 is yours, Zaphodie, if you port freeciv 21.13.37 # most mp3 players are arm, arm is simply sweet 21.13.47 # ;) 21.14.05 # Thanks soap. A bit (or a lot) beyond my scope. 21.14.12 # the smart use of the pipeline gives a 150% speed boost 21.14.22 # most != all 21.14.50 # And even for arm you need to vary the code for the different arm versions and architecture versions 21.15.38 # use armv5 specifications and youre ok for 90% of the targets 21.15.39 # Asm makes sense for a few low-level, speed critical functions 21.15.45 # No, you aren't 21.16.03 # Most rockbox arm targets are v4 21.16.19 # And there you have to distinguish between arm7 and arm9 21.16.45 # Back way when mouse drivers for MS-DOS were too bulky to use with specific games, asm was a godsent.. then came imouse.com and all my asm skills were made moot. 21.17.23 # mmkay mp3 player games must be coded in C then ^^ 21.18.07 # Zaphodie: did you notice the boomshine game ? 21.18.12 # TheLemonMan: i think we don't have a single stable armv5 target 21.18.19 # but a few unstable ones 21.18.51 # When i was in jail, a space opera strategy game with even a smudge of AI would have kept me entertained for hours on end. Would have made the time go faster. That's the motivation behind it. 21.18.57 # SoC are v4 ? 21.19.06 # We do have one armv6 target though 21.19.18 Quit anewuser (Quit: FAMICOMPO 7 - August 15 Through August 31 JST - http://midr2.under.jp/compo/vol7/index.html) 21.20.14 # Zaphodie: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/plugins/boomshine.lua?revision=25043&view=markup 21.21.43 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 21.24.08 # funman, Fun game. 21.27.53 # It's not only fun, it's also 100% lua and can be used as example for text/graphics/button input ;) 21.30.00 # amiconn: the beast it still "unstable" due to the installation difficulties IIRC 21.30.12 # s/due/, due/ 21.30.32 # which at this rate seems like they will remain unfixed :( 21.31.18 # theres a general todo list? i may help in the spare time 21.31.57 # there's the bug tracker 21.32.12 # if you have one of the unstable targets you can look what makes them still unstable 21.32.13 # also the MrSomeonesTodoList in the wiki 21.32.16 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.33.39 # Some targets deemed unstable are actually more stable these days than expected-to-be stable ones :\ 21.33.40 # i dont have any suitable target :( 21.34.02 # except mine i haxxored by myself, runs a linux kernel and uses sdl 21.34.55 # funman, it actually ran on my ipod. Well this is new, allmost everything else gives errors and exits. Thanks tons, i'll see what i can do with it. 21.35.59 # btw you can use the simulator to develop/debug 21.36.06 # (and has a working dispaly message function, which is a plus) 21.36.19 Quit terriblebanter () 21.37.09 # funman, oh! url would be appriciated, thi i'll probably find it by myself now when i got the envcouragement of a actual working LUA game. 21.37.17 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad) 21.37.25 # (sorry for the crumbs in the keyboard) 21.37.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator and http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DocsIndex#For_Developers 21.39.05 # Thankyou funman. 21.40.58 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-90-88.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 21.41.19 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.45.31 # Hey is someone here willing to review a patch that I submitted? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11546 21.47.30 # you broke the alignement somehow 21.47.42 # ah that's because you use tabs 21.48.26 Quit z35 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.49.04 # Also the manual needs change 21.49.22 Quit Highlander (Quit: Quitte) 21.50.29 # New commit by 03nls (r27857): libtremor: use render_line from ffmpeg (libavcodec/vorbis.c), speedup ~1% on both arm and coldfire, output unchanged. 21.50.42 # clone4crw: want me to answer on flyspray? 21.50.50 # if you would like 21.51.08 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) 21.51.21 # by not using tabs, you mean just replace the tabs with (four) spaces? 21.51.44 # clone4crw: yes, see docs/CONTRIBUTING 21.52.20 # r27857 build result: All green 21.53.30 # sorry about that. I'm revising the patch right now 21.54.20 # New commit by 03nls (r27858): forgot comment 21.56.00 # r27858 build result: All green 21.59.33 # Would it be out of place to inquire a trustworthy (and cheap) business that could sell me a replacement battery for a 3g ipod. I'm guessing people here might have a broader underestanding about this than google. 21.59.53 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803c22e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.194.46) 22.00.01 # pixelma: How would I go about changing the manual regarding the lamp plugin? 22.00.09 # n1s: did you just make Tremor LGPL? 22.00.59 # saratoga_: maybe our tremor but we distribute under gpl so that should be fine, no? 22.01.14 # n1s: yeah, but theres still BSD headers on that file 22.01.34 # also if people want to redistribute the source under original license it's a problem 22.01.34 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 22.01.39 # we need to be careful about mixing 22.02.21 # perhaps the function can go in a separate .h 22.02.22 # uh, ok so how do i fix that? just revert the commit since it's just for a minor speedup? 22.02.57 # would it be hard to rewrite it? 22.03.11 # put it in a .h with a LGPL license ? 22.03.31 # it looks like the function is already partially rewritten 22.04.03 # i'd rather do the separate .h, well, they are doing the same things and i suppose it was written from the spec 22.04.33 # could you just remove the remaining ffmpeg bits? 22.05.42 # the ffmpeg bits are basically the unrolled special case which is the reason for the speedup, i think so that would just be a revert 22.07.09 # I'll just drop it in a separate .h 22.07.55 # I don't think you can avoid license issues with .h files? 22.07.58 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.30.82.24) 22.09.16 # the licenses are compatible but it's important to indicate which piece of code is under which license, in the case of source redistribution 22.09.17 # kugel: the binary is already gpl since it links with gpl code but individual source files can be other (compatible) license 22.09.20 # if someone only wants BSD he just has to drop the .h 22.09.35 # btw you can also ask the FFmpeg author to relicense his change 22.09.42 # thats not a bad idea 22.09.45 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.09.56 # the ffmpeg people were nice enough to give us BSD licensing on the mdct 22.10.01 # especially for small functions i doubt they would disagree 22.10.34 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.131.249) 22.10.47 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 22.12.19 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.82.24) 22.13.24 # that function is written by lorenm, who has previously relicensed ffmpeg code for us 22.14.28 # New commit by 03nls (r27859): Move ffmpeg functions to their own file to avoid mixing code under different liceses in the same file. Licensing is fun! 22.14.55 # saratoga_: did you get the mdct merged back into tremor? 22.15.07 # n1s: no unfortunately not 22.15.16 # i'm subscribed to the tremor list, no activity for 3 months or so 22.15.24 # i've been really busy with trying to graduate 22.15.57 # r27859 build result: All green 22.15.57 # i think the patch needs more testing anyway, for instance i realized we never tried it with 96khz Vorbis files 22.16.16 # i don't think anyone uses tremor with those files, but it should still be checked 22.16.25 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.18.28 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Help me, i got shot! *DIES*) 22.18.46 # i was looking at the ffmpeg vorbis decoder and wondered about how easy it would be to fixed point convert and use in rockbox but it allocates several hundred kB's so some parts would need to be hacked up a lot 22.19.09 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 22.19.13 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 22.19.13 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.19.33 # there were a few variable length array on stack -> malloc/free conversions 1 month ago or so 22.20.28 # tremor mallocs a lot too 22.20.32 # is ffmpeg worse? 22.23.14 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.23.47 # parsing the codebooks it mallocs over 300kb since the max codebook size is so insanely huge but common files use only a few hundred to about 2 thousand entries 22.24.23 # so that would need to be rewritten or adapted from tremor or something 22.26.51 # those arrays could of course be allocated just as large as they need to be but then we would fail on theoretical files that some users probably has somewhere 22.30.39 # ffmpeg is using a lot more worst case mallocs though, while tremor just seems to malloc what it needs 22.31.30 # argh 22.31.39 # Where's Lear when you need him? 22.32.01 # r27773 causes the serious breakage on hwcodec (starting playback stops again immediately) 22.38.07 # Argh, hidden signature mismatch due to separate declaration, originating from mpeg.c historically living in firmware/ 22.38.14 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 22.38.49 # two different functions with the same name? 22.40.32 # No, mpeg.c declaring playlist_peek() & friends separately instead of including playlist.h 22.41.57 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4B11C.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.42.46 # that's evil! 22.43.56 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.45.24 Quit Jaykay (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 22.50.31 # funman: Yes, but way back it was necessary 22.50.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.55.46 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.57.53 Join Stummi [0] (stummi@doppeldenk.org) 22.58.08 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 22.58.33 # New commit by 03amiconn (r27860): Fix HWCODEC playback broken in r27773. mpeg.c declared playlist functions on its own instead of including playlist.h due to its history, and now they ... 23.00.10 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 23.00.22 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 23.00.36 # r27860 build result: All green 23.03.18 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.19.18 Join stripwax_ [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.19.22 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!) 23.19.50 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.82.24) 23.19.59 Join freonx [0] (~freonx@201.116.140.243) 23.20.17 Quit stripwax_ (Client Quit) 23.20.18 Join eboyer93 [0] (eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 23.20.30 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 23.20.55 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 23.21.12 Quit freonx (Client Quit) 23.21.22 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.21.31 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.22.15 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.22.50 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 23.23.12 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 23.27.37 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.29.11 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 23.29.34 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 23.30.13 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 23.30.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 23.34.26 Quit xvello (Remote host closed the connection) 23.43.54 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.45.43 Join timccccc [0] (~lisa@ede67-2-82-226-53-227.fbx.proxad.net) 23.51.58 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-251.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.53.21 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.56.46 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 23.58.29 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.82.24)