--- Log for 24.08.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 1 hour ago 00.03.30 Quit dovshap (Remote host closed the connection) 00.04.31 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 00.05.19 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 00.05.55 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 00.06.00 Quit mcuelenaere () 00.06.06 Quit ender` (Quit: Who is this General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?) 00.06.41 Quit Malcohol (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 00.16.45 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.19.34 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 00.22.50 # the error is between 27818 and 27831 00.23.56 # pixelma, ^^ 00.28.54 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.32.06 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.34.20 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.34.46 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.83.100) 00.40.33 # 27827 works 27829 doesn't, just going to test 27828 and i'll know what commit broke it 00.40.58 Join andash [0] (~andash@h-121-189.A254.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.40.58 Quit andash (Changing host) 00.40.58 Join andash [0] (~andash@unaffiliated/andash) 00.41.16 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.42.28 Quit andash (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.45.03 # my guess would be 278329 then as it has to do with actual theme loading but if you can confirm it that's even better. Could you file a bug report to the tracker with your findings then? 00.45.07 # stephen__: ^ 00.45.17 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 00.46.10 Quit Battousai (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.46.59 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 00.48.14 # it is indeed 27829 00.48.35 # i'll have to wait till i'm in work fir flyspray i'm regged with my work email 00.48.46 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.49.04 Join andash [0] (~andash@h-121-189.A254.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.49.12 Quit andash (Changing host) 00.49.12 Join andash [0] (~andash@unaffiliated/andash) 00.49.48 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 00.49.51 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.51.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.53.39 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.57.39 Quit andash (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.03.07 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.08.51 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.10.53 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.12.27 Part toffe82 01.14.35 # New commit by 03Buschel (r27868): Fix libfaad error that was introduced with r27225. 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I'm having trouble finding an answer to this question online, though it seems like it should be a very common one. So, sorry if it's been asked to death. My lady wants rockbox, but doesn't like the interface (she prefers the iPod-style interface, where 'menu' means 'back', etc.). Is it possible to do this with Rockbox? 05.29.49 # sure, if you're willing to edit the keymaps and compile from source, but it (probably) won't act the same way 05.32.04 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.32.08 # hmm 05.32.10 # yeah 05.32.30 # it would need to be the 'back' key when in file browser mode and the 'center' key when at the 'currently playing' screen 05.34.02 # probably easier just to learn the new keymap. 05.35.38 # probably... though I've been using rockbox for quite some time and it still feels unintuitive :) 05.35.48 # (worth it to be able to play flacs, though) 05.35.55 # thanks for the idea though, krazykit 05.36.39 # Shirakawasuna: if you come from an ipod then rockbox might feel unintuitive, but what you really mean is "different" 05.36.46 # the apple OF is brain dead :p 05.36.57 # install rockbox with the iLike theme 05.37.25 # I've been using Rockbox for 2 years, dude ;) 05.37.30 # every day 05.38.28 # though the iLike theme might be easier on my eyes, thanks 05.47.09 Quit eboyer93 () 05.52.27 Quit Coty (Quit: Leaving) 06.06.30 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-217-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 06.07.13 Join xvello [0] (~quassel@mauvais-esprit.org) 06.07.50 Part Shirakawasuna ("Konversation terminated!") 06.10.49 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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(I mean if returning NULL will work) 07.46.23 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 07.47.51 # wodz: well both have 15 steps right? the way I would do it is have the apps/ setting store 0-15 (or whatver) and then translate that in the driver 07.49.27 # JdGordon: look more carefully - the problem is with duplicated settings (-90 and + 60) 07.49.29 # then the formatter would obviously need to do some maths to make it look good also.. 07.49.38 # oh.. umm 07.50.26 # ok, maybe you will need to use the custom setting for it, if those dupes are unacceptable? 07.50.56 # I think it would look odd if you have duplicated entries in setting list 07.51.16 # going that route means it cant be put on the quickscreen though, Dunno if that is a big deal or not 07.51.45 # (mind you, we can always fix that later anyway) 07.53.29 # I prefer to do it right from the begining as this code is used in 'stable' grade ports (mrobe100 and gigabeatfx) 07.55.05 # I assume those duped values are only in that mode? 07.55.27 # unfortunately 07.57.14 # well then your choice is either custom and use 1 global_settings var (and one for mode), or two seperate settings with two seperate formatter functions 07.57.44 # the difference is really how much you care about bin/ram delta, and how you feel about the extra menu item 08.00.32 # I prefer shared global_setting var + one for mode - thats the whole point 08.01.26 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.01.31 # ok so its a bit more fiddling, but still pretty easy, email me or put the requirements in the tracker and ill do it tonight 08.04.00 # hehe tracker as a general communication channel - what a lovely abuse :-) 08.04.21 # well irc will get lost :) 08.04.31 # and it's obviously a bug! 08.05.11 # what you mean by irc will get lost? 08.07.04 # it means I'll forget about it :p 08.12.23 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.19.24 Nick shai_ is now known as shai (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 08.20.02 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 08.20.07 Quit BRi7X (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.20.11 Join chaos [0] (~chaos@gentoo/user/ch4os) 08.20.26 Part chaos 08.24.35 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: No route to host) 08.26.07 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.27.21 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.28.13 # JdGordon|: you should have email in your inbox 08.28.36 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 08.28.58 # i do :) 08.29.01 # DELETED! 08.29.23 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 08.39.20 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 08.42.13 Join l403 [0] (~l@gw8.vslesy.cz) 08.42.28 Quit anewuser (Quit: FAMICOMPO 7 - August 15 Through August 31 JST - http://midr2.under.jp/compo/vol7/index.html) 08.44.08 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.44.09 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.44.09 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.49.20 Nick Guest1526 is now known as Stummi (stummi@doppeldenk.org) 08.49.43 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 08.49.50 Quit t0rc (Client Quit) 08.51.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.53.28 Quit l403 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.54.22 Join l403 [0] (~l@gw8.vslesy.cz) 09.04.51 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.11.04 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 09.29.03 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.29.48 Quit r0b- (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.30.03 Join r0b- [0] (~nnscript@adsl-76-235-217-7.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 09.30.48 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 09.30.48 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.30.48 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.31.13 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 09.31.42 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCBC4E.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.31.51 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.35.21 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.58.48 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 10.01.51 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 10.02.22 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@58.96.27.158) 10.04.28 Join jd [0] (~jdg@122.110.207.118) 10.05.07 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.07.09 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.10.24 # Zagor: is the mysql server on buildmaster.rockbox.org closed again for the "public" build server data? 10.10.46 # not intentionally 10.14.06 # I can't reach it apparently, I get refused connections 10.14.08 Join timccccc [0] (~lisa@rab34-4-82-240-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 10.15.32 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 10.23.41 # gevaerts: yes, I saw. 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I need to add setjmp for sh 12.14.12 # JdGordon: I have attached the repaired WSP. I needed to define an explicit viewport for the albumart -- i did not do this before... 12.14.20 Join Ramsey[LC] [0] (~RamseyLC]@adsl-71-158-175-94.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 12.14.42 # I dont remember changin anything to require that though :( 12.15.34 # pixelma: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/rockbox.zip (ondio sp, hopefully correct) 12.15.53 # kugel: do I need to install a full build? 12.15.54 # JdGordon: well, at least you have a good starting point to search for the reason 12.15.57 # test if you can exit rockblox 12.15.59 # yes 12.17.22 # kugel: no, it's an FM and if you want to be completely correct then a backlight modded one but standard builds should work too. Unzipping full builds with the lot of small files is taking ages on the Ondio :\ 12.17.32 # wodz, come back online! :D 12.19.09 # kugel: any idea how much effort it would be to turn the sdl app into a daemon+client? sort of like android 12.19.42 # also, /me wants the scroll wheel to work in the sdl/sims :( 12.21.04 # scrollwheel works in the sims so you should be able to add it for the app as well 12.21.13 # but what do you mean by daemon/client? 12.21.36 # like mpd? so that music keeps playing when you close the window? 12.21.54 # pixelma: ok, I make a new one 12.22.53 # kugel: yes 12.23.23 # dunno, I think more effort than on android 12.23.24 # with some way of being able to give it commands from the cli would be sweet also 12.25.31 # pixelma: new build up. I guess it would be sufficient if you extract rockblox.rock and run that 12.26.46 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 12.28.41 # maybe the binary also depending on how old the existing one is 12.28.46 # JdGordon: pong 12.29.03 # hey, does the setting need to change live like other settings? 12.29.09 # i.e when the selection changes? 12.29.29 # yes 12.34.40 # oh bugger :/ simplelists arnt simple enough 12.36.15 # wodz: I'm a bit puzzled about your recording gain suggestion. On my targets gain steps change in (what I think) steps that are possible on the controller. Most noticeable with the M5 - gain steps are 1.5dB for FM or line-in and for mic-in it's either 0db or 20dB because that's what the hardware provides only 12.42.50 # pixelma: in sound settings yes, in recscreen no 12.43.05 # in the rec screen 12.43.38 # hmm 12.46.33 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.131.249) 12.51.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.56.18 # I could imagine that there are differences in the sim 12.57.36 # pixelma: have you done the test? 12.58.13 # wodz: ok, I';ve done the hard bits 12.58.38 # you just need to add magic to call the driver, and something to make the duped values dissapear 13.01.26 # pixelma: how can that be - in mas35xx.c there is line [SOUND_MIC_GAIN] = {"dB", 1, 1, 0, 15, 2} which i read as the setting is from 0 to 15 in units of dB 13.02.59 # wodz: check your email :) the UI for the setting is bassically done apart from some magic needed. it talks and works correctly 13.03.37 # JdGordon: thx 13.04.24 # the mode comes up as "shuffle" in the sound settings because I'm lazy :) 13.06.25 # hahhaha 13.10.57 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 13.16.46 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Leaving.) 13.17.48 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 13.24.53 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.27.09 # pixelma: I think I understand what's going on with gain settings. There are two approaches in rb which are driver specific: 1) store in global_settings.xxx value in register format and than use val2phys() function to convert this into human understandable value 2) store global_settings.xxx in tenth of dB and use tenthdb2hw() type function in low level driver 13.27.37 # hm, is the next idea to come up a "patch/bug of the day" approach? 13.28.25 # pixelma: may I kindly remind you to do the test? 13.29.16 # kugel: currently unzipping your build 13.29.22 # great 13.30.36 # pixelma: if value is stored in global_settings.xxx in register format than everything is ok, if it is stored in tdB than increase should be done not by 1 but by the value the driver claims to support 13.31.24 # wodz: could that be unified? 13.31.53 # kugel: sure with 100+ menhours 13.33.20 # but more seriously - sometime it is more convenient to store setting as reg value sometimes as physical value 13.33.56 # but maybe always storing in reg format is more general 13.40.09 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.40.35 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-196-251.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.45.19 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.46.02 # kugel: something is very weird with either the build and/or the upgrade - I got a crash with early USB as amiconn described and then am stuck in a boot loop with the flashed build until I try the "rescue boot" - that'll RoLo your build which runs (telling you here because I don't know if it has an influence on the testing). The RoLo'ed build already crashes when I want to start Rockblox (with an IllInstr. if you want to I can give you the address 13.46.02 # and if I want to start music it hangs at "loading". I haven't updated for a while so I'd like to install an SVN build first, in the hope it runs stable at least :\ 13.46.40 # I didn't change the core so 13.46.51 # I only need to know if rockblox works ) 13.46.53 # :) 13.47.03 # well, I can't even start it 13.47.36 # give me the address of the illinstr please 13.48.33 # I04: IllInstr at 091F8D50 13.51.05 # that is in setjmp, so my change doesn't work 13.51.24 # I got rid of the crashes by deleting english.lang (UI was set to English so it had to use the built-in, I remember seeing that before especially with voice turned on (some of the voice features are turned on, but not menus)) 13.52.56 # I unpacked your complete build, so loaded lang and voice was out of sync with the flashed build that crashed 13.54.23 # pixelma: try this one please (now the .rock is enough) http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/rockblox.rock 13.54.37 # ok, then the test result was of use anyway 13.55.30 # will try 13.57.59 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B660AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.58.22 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.00.04 # if anyone is bored can they commit FS#11567? git svn and my net connection arnt playing nicely :/ 14.00.56 # kugel: now Rockblox starts and I can start a game but get a "Plugin returned error" when quitting from the menu and the game status isn't saved 14.01.31 # the plugin returned error is expected 14.02.04 # what do you mean with game status isn't saved? 14.03.41 # when entering I could resume a game from before, after exiting with the error message this menu entry isn't available 14.03.59 # I mean "resume" 14.05.23 # is svn working for anyone? 14.06.38 # pixelma: that shouldn't happen but I don't see how it's caused by my change 14.08.39 # pixelma: unless you accidentally hit quit without saving? 14.09.46 # hmm, not sure anymore. I just started unpacking an SVN build and will try this first and then yours again, will take a bit 14.12.46 Quit scorche|sh (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.12.49 Quit blithe (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.19.39 # the hang at "loading" has to do with my theme - which is one that uses viewports, loaded cabbiev2 and I get music. I also see the garbage in the upper left corner of the WPS though which was reported for the Clip version, looks like some pixels of the progressbar are misplaced (as it looks shifted left a bit itself and at least the top row is missing) 14.20.20 # top row of the progress bar bmp 14.27.17 # JdGordon: do you want all the theme related bugs in one report or in two (divided into "severe" and "cosmetic") or one each? 14.27.50 # split em up 14.29.10 # kugel: ok, seems I accidentally chose "Quit without saving" before, it works now 14.29.28 # cool 14.34.47 # whoa, the screen curroption is irregular with cabbiev2 (from "looks completely correct" to "full garbage except during screen updates") 14.34.55 # err... Corruption 14.35.00 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@squisch.net) 14.35.20 Join blithe [0] (~blithe@72.14.176.144) 14.35.38 # so, I'm going to move setjmp stuff from apps/codecs/lib to lib/libsetjmp, for lack of a better place 14.37.31 # should be in firmware/libc once/if we ever use it in the core 14.38.45 # New commit by 03kugel (r27869): Move setjmp to lib and add setjmp for sh (imported from newlib) and compile it as separate library. ... 14.39.39 # s,into sources,into apps/codecs/, :\ 14.40.50 # r27869 build result: 7 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed) 14.41.57 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 14.44.37 # huh 14.46.31 # wtf?! 14.46.31 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC572CE.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.47.12 # JdGordon: that one looks nice: http://imagebin.ca/view/61COPdAs.html ... it even survived reboots. leaving and entering WPS and turn on screendump and only changed when loading a (different) theme. Since it changes when switching themes, I wonder if the theme load crash is related 14.48.29 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.50.20 # it appears something does #define mips 1 14.51.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.58.05 # #undef mips indeed helps, but what the heck defines it to somethign? 15.02.49 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.04.10 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.04.41 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.06.49 Part Zagor 15.07.00 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 15.14.29 # * kugel can't find it 15.14.33 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 15.15.45 # New commit by 03kugel (r27870): Fix red. Something - I coundn't find it - must be doing '#define mips 1'. 15.16.43 # there's a bug in the combination of rb 3.6 and mkamsboot 1.4 on fuzev1/e200v2 : plugging USB reboots, but with mkamsboot 1.4 rockbox starts again -> infinite loop 15.17.01 # reported on the forum, i locked the thread since the user 'trashed away' his player 15.17.07 # New commit by 03kugel (r27871): Add a comment 15.17.22 # r27870 build result: All green 15.17.49 # kugel: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17245.15 15.17.54 # funman: bug indicates that we can/want fix it, do we? 15.18.42 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.19.00 # r27871 build result: All green 15.19.21 # if you're using the royal we to speak about you with the plural person, i've no problem; but i'll wait 3.7 ;) 15.19.41 # it only happens with manual install, rbutil is safe 15.20.00 # I don't see any point in doing something about it 15.20.02 Quit krazykit (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 15.20.35 # perhaps a newer gcc would make the mips thing go away 15.21.26 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 15.22.28 # ah, it lists mips as predefined 15.23.27 # gcc/config/mips/mips.h : builtin_define ("mips"); 15.23.41 # we could do -Umips and rely on __mips instead 15.24.00 # yes i think it's better 15.24.14 # I think we don't even use mips anywhere 15.24.26 # btw i use "echo mips | mipsel-elf-gcc -E -" to check for builtins 15.24.37 # commit it, see if it breaks ;) 15.25.09 # * kugel thinks compilers shouldn't have predefined symbols that *not* prefixed with __ 15.25.42 # what about 'return', 'asm' etc? 15.26.30 # that's keywords of the language not predefined symbols :) 15.28.24 # the define is conditional on !flag_iso , so supposedly conformant compilers must not do that 15.29.58 # builtin defines without a leading _ are only a few, perhaps old legacy? 15.30.07 # most probably 15.31.00 # arm doesn't have such a thing 15.31.25 # vxworks has ARMEB/ARMEL 15.33.28 # http://predef.sourceforge.net/prearch.html 15.35.50 # only mentions gcc, perhaps it's gcc stupidity legacy? :/ 15.36.16 # http://pastie.org/1112307 works - go for it? 15.36.25 # works=compiles of course 15.37.40 # add a comment in configure please 15.38.47 # alright 15.41.47 # New commit by 03kugel (r27872): mips is predefined by gcc, but we want it for paths. Don't let others fall into this trap again. 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Red where caused by preprocessor condition mismatch. 17.03.04 # funman: i.e. it was broken? 17.03.10 # probably 17.03.40 # Torne: you can enable frotz on sh now, I didn't do it because I dont know if it works on charcell 17.03.45 # r27874 build result: All green 17.04.34 # \o/ 17.08.55 Quit r0b- (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 17.15.06 Quit milz (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.15.48 # I think we can auto detect iram usage of plugins by checking the section sizes at start, removing the need for PLUGIN_IRAM_DECLARE and PLUGIN_IRAM_INIT 17.16.40 # something like, if (iram_end > iram_start) ? 17.17.46 # yea 17.24.06 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-90-88.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 17.28.47 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 17.28.51 # kugel: it doesn't work on charcell 17.29.00 # kugel: i didn't bother to implement it becuase it didn't compile :) 17.29.17 # kugel: you impleented longjmp for sh, then? 17.29.25 # yea 17.29.41 # with the help of pixelma (that you btw) 17.29.45 # thank* 17.31.01 # kugel: ah, in gcc 4.4.4 they don't define 'mips' when targeting vxworks 17.31.24 # what is vxworks? 17.31.33 # some OS 17.32.26 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.33.00 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 17.33.17 Join fiveofoh [0] (~jbradsha@a-129-196-226-17.ext.fluke.com) 17.34.49 Quit clone4crw (Quit: leaving) 17.35.34 Join milz [0] (~kyle@S0106002500fe5b38.cg.shawcable.net) 17.36.14 # Anyone bored and want to decompile an ELF to track down a data abort? 17.36.43 # (That would also include telling me how to *get* an ELF, as I can't seem to figure that out either) 17.37.27 # I can follow directions/tutorials, but can't seem to find such things online anywhere 17.37.59 # elf files are made during the compilation 17.38.17 # Ahh hmm 17.38.32 # Well then if I'm just using the release build, is there a release ELF somewhere? 17.38.57 # no 17.39.13 # it'd be nice to have though 17.39.50 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 17.40.12 # Hmm 17.40.13 # Yes it would 17.45.10 # Yeah, we really should retain that info for releases 17.45.22 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@e179098200.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.45.34 # Obtaining a ELF file is easy, just ask someone to build with a precise platform and rev, it's a matter of minute. But how would you track a data abort with a elf file ? 17.45.55 # pamaury: because you can look up the address that caused the abort, to see where it was.. 17.46.17 # and you cna't depend on a rebuild of the same code to produce the same binaries.. 17.46.29 # gcc doesn't promise to be deterministic 17.48.20 # we could just leave the elf in the zip.. it's only a mehg 17.48.24 # meg, even 17.48.25 # :) 17.48.32 # for every build, not just releases. :) 17.48.46 # and it zips by about 50%, even 17.48.55 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.48.57 # so it's 500kb or so to have symbol information for diagnosing crashes 17.48.59 # Then someone need to modify the script 17.49.05 # :) 17.49.24 # well if nobody objects to build zips being 500kb bigger simply for the purpose of debugging crashes.. ;) 17.49.50 # i guess to debug *everything* you'd technically have to include the elfs for the codecs and plugins 17.50.09 # we should certainly keep a copy of all of that information for release builds, for ourselves. 17.50.12 # what about zipping the diff between the .elf and the .rock? 17.50.26 # funman: heh 17.50.33 # grab bsdiff and try it? :) 17.50.41 # i doubt zip will code twice the same information efficiently 17.50.52 # zip doesn't share info across files at all, so no 17.51.00 # tar.zip! 17.51.01 # zip deflates files independantly 17.51.47 # doing for releases require updating the wiki so the person doing the builds doesn't delete them after making the zips 17.51.58 # oops we even have scripts for that 17.52.07 # well, we could add an extra target to the makefile that builds a zip of the elfs 17.52.12 # as rockbox-debug.zip 17.52.13 # or something 17.52.14 # ? 17.52.31 # then just update the release script to do that 17.52.43 # that bsdiff idea could be good 17.53.04 # Torne: yeah sure, the important point is: someone has to do it ;) 17.53.08 # funman: right 17.53.25 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.53.46 # gevaerts: not sur ehow much the space saving matters, really 17.54.06 # Torne: people have objected to the elf file for that in the past 17.54.07 # it would be more inconvenient to use in that form 17.54.09 # hm 17.54.23 # well, it's sitll going to be a nontrivial amount of space used 17.54.27 # simply because dwarf info is big 17.54.40 # for an e200 build, mi4 is 578560 bytes, elf is 882334 bytes, bsdiff is 77516 bytes 17.55.08 # okay, that's a more interesting size 17.55.15 # also, the elf perhaps has source line info stuff in it? 17.55.18 # Translated to a zip file, the extra cost of the bsdiff file is 77598 bytes, the extra cost of the elf file is 370773 bytes 17.55.19 # we could probably strip that 17.55.19 # let's write an elf parser in rockbox and only ship the elf files 17.55.49 # That's only for the main binary of course, not for plugins and codecs yet 17.55.59 # gevaerts: right, but you can assume the 90% reduction will be reasonably constant 17.56.09 # can you then zip the bsdiff, also? 17.56.09 # funman: I've been thinking about doing that recently :) 17.56.10 # yes 17.56.21 # it's probably much less compressible than the original 17.56.26 # because dwarf is already compressed 17.56.35 # zipping the bsdiff doesn't help on its own 17.56.36 # so the gain from zipping the elf is probably on compressing the *code* 17.56.47 # also, how about using .tar.bz2 instead of zip? 17.56.47 # just the debug info is going ot be very entropic 17.56.57 # funman: not going to make a lot of differnce if you do bsdiff 17.57.08 # for the whole build 17.57.19 # oh, maybe. 17.57.25 # but windows people who instal lmanually may get put off 17.57.44 # i expect people who can install a firmware to be able to install winzip/7zip 17.57.47 # since they may not have things that speak tbz2, and even if they do they normally handle the tar-ness of it badly (i.e. extra prompts) 17.58.11 # is it still the case today? 17.58.41 # (double prompt) 17.58.47 # last time i tried, yes 17.58.57 # winzip still goes "this archove contains one file, do you want to decompress that" 17.59.02 # and i think 7zip does too 17.59.15 # i duno, i'm just devils advocating 17.59.26 # i am personally fine with tbz2, unsurprisingly :) 17.59.28 # zip -> tbz2 gives 14% improvement 17.59.43 # Psh well winzip is crap anyway :P 17.59.53 # And 7zip gives you two folders to drill down through 18.00.00 # (Last I checked) 18.00.09 # fiveofoh: right, that's more or less the same semibroken behaviour :) 18.00.13 # funman: that's not a lot 18.00.19 # Yeah, I was confirming it 18.00.35 # (I just finished reading through the scrollback...you all have been busy! :P) 18.01.51 # gevaerts: either way, we should definately do something about keeping all the elfs for all the release builds, which can be done without upsetting anyone i think :) 18.02.00 # gevaerts: because i assume most users, proportionally, use release builds still 18.02.12 # and thus that's a great potential payoff for keeping it 18.02.17 # if they do have crashes 18.02.45 # if they do they should try a current build anyway 18.02.47 # shipping the debug info in the build i can see might be contenuous unless it's tiny 18.02.56 # funman: right, but not all problems are reproducable easily 18.03.03 # being able to look up a given crash is valuable on its own 18.03.13 # yeah right 18.03.20 # i guess, likewise, we could just upload the debug info in a seperate file for current builds 18.03.22 # (My problem isn't easily reproducible yet, as it's highly infrequent 18.03.24 # ) 18.03.24 # and then delete it when the build gets deleted 18.03.36 # so that if people try a *brand new* current build we can get the symbols for it 18.03.40 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.03.52 # not having them for arbitrary past revisions is not a big deal.. 18.04.03 # so i thin ki've talked myself around to not caring about shipping the debug info with the build. 18.04.08 # :) 18.04.10 # For example 18.04.21 # Ha 18.04.35 # fiveofoh: i reserve the right to change my mind while speaking 18.04.36 # :) 18.04.56 # Torne: actually, they should be kept for a while. You can't tell people to try again with a current build, and then ten minutes later when they come back with the result say "Oh, please try again, someone did a commit and the elf files are gone!" 18.05.08 # gevaerts: hmm, i guess. 18.05.21 # i dunno how large our window is ;) 18.05.23 # Well you can, but it's not very friendly 18.05.50 # Especially when the problem isn't easily reproducible 18.05.56 # hm, i thought we kept current builds for a short time 18.05.59 # but maybe we don't? 18.06.13 # i guess not 18.06.16 # ok so taht's a worse argument then 18.06.23 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.06.30 # i was thinking for some reason we kept the number of builds that showed up on the build results table 18.06.36 # but those links just go to svn and hte logs, not the files ;) 18.07.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 18.07.23 # ahh, yes, we keep a few dailies 18.07.35 # * Torne is getting mixed up 18.09.41 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 18.10.03 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-217-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.10.30 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.10.38 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 18.11.05 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 18.12.15 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.25.07 Quit Kitar|st (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.27.18 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A441.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.29.46 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4A9EF.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.33.45 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-92-248.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 18.38.58 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.51.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.51.58 Quit storm` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.54.47 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 18.58.40 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 18.58.43 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 19.00.00 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.00.56 # New commit by 03bertrik (r27875): Fix Brazilian Portugues translation - 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I'm trying to figure out if I killed my iPod or it was defective to begin with. I bought it from eBay. It arrived 4 days ago and I loaded RockBox on it immediately. Worked fine up until this afternoon. I was playing around in the Plugins section, and selected something that (I think) was under "Demos". It was a 3 letter name, like "ffp" or "fft" or something, I can't remeber exactly what. I don't see it listed in the Ro 22.57.56 # I forgot to mention, when the iPod froze, the screen it displayed was blank - it looked like a menu but there were no options on it. 22.57.58 # Bice: try to make shorter lines. This one was cut off at "I don't see it listed in the Ro" 22.58.10 # Sorry. I'll try again. 22.58.41 # I bought the iPod on eBay. Loaded RockBox. Worked great for 4 days. 22.59.10 # This afternoon I was playing with the Plugins, and selected something called "ffp" or "fft" or something like that - I don't see it listed in the RockBox manual for iPods. 22.59.31 # After selecting it, the iPod displayed what looked like the main menu screen, but it had no options - it was just blank. 22.59.43 # iPod froze up there, and none of the buttons would do anything. I couldn't even get it to shut down. 23.00.07 # I finally put the hold switch into "hold" position, and it shut down. But now it won't start up again. 23.00.22 # Plugging it into the USB port doesn't do anything either - it's not showing up as an external drive. 23.00.25 # unlock the hold switch and hold power for a while 23.00.57 # By power, do yuo mean the menu button? 23.01.06 # saratoga: just power is sansas 23.01.38 # i'm sure the ipod has something functionally equivalent to a power button 23.01.40 # Bice: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1320 is Apple's explanation on how to hard reset an ipod. That should *always* work 23.02.36 # saratoga: it's two buttons simultaneously, neither of which is labeled "power" :) 23.02.55 # ah ok 23.03.38 # Bice: in short, make sure hold is *off*, i.e. normal, and hold menu+center for a bit 23.03.54 # THANK YOU!!! That did it. Toggled the hold switch on and off a couple times, then held Menu and the select button in for several seconds. I had tried the Menu/select thing earlier, but I didn't know you had to toggle the hold button. 23.04.27 # It's not actually clear if you have to. Sometimes it's not needed 23.05.09 # Anyway, this sounds like a bug in the fft plugin. Are you using a stable release, or a current build? 23.05.11 # For the record, the plugin I tried that locked up my iPod is "fft" under the Demos section. 23.05.50 # Stable release. I downloaded the installer and just went with all the defaults for a complete install. 23.06.19 # What is that fft plugin? 23.07.00 # It should show a spectrogram of the currently playing audio 23.07.58 # Ah, maybe that was the problem - I didn't have any music playing at the time. I was actually in a boring meeting at work and was playing around with the plugins to kill time (everyone else thought I was checking messages on a cell phone or something) :-) 23.08.38 # It still shouldn't crash. Maybe nobody actually tested it without audio though... 23.09.56 # Well, you guys saved me both an angry email to the guy I bought the iPod from and a trip to a repair shop (where they would have toggled the hold button and charged me $50 for it, no doubt). Thanks again. 23.10.25 # I gotta go make dinner for my daughter. See you later... 23.10.26 Quit Bice (Quit: CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)) 23.11.17 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.12.11 Quit Hillshum (Quit: Page closed) 23.12.55 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 23.13.10 # hm, forgot to ask which specific ipod this was... 23.14.59 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.19.33 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 23.20.22 # I can't reproduce this on my video 23.21.04 # (3.6 or current) 23.21.24 # gevaerts: I can't reproduce on mini 1G (yesterday svn) either. 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