--- Log for 01.09.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 17 days and 1 hour ago 00.00.54 Quit jae (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.01.30 Join jae [0] (~jae@jaerhard.com) 00.02.51 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.14.55 Quit bertrik (Quit: Leaving) 00.15.23 Quit kaiscene () 00.15.28 # * gevaerts doesn't understand why it takes so long for the disk to spin down 00.16.19 Join guest [0] (~4b397eae@giant.haxx.se) 00.17.48 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 00.18.00 Quit evilnick (Quit: evilnick) 00.21.22 # Hello, I was installing Rockbox onto my Sansa e280 using the Rockbox Utility. After I had selected my audio player from the list and path as well, I clicked Ok and watch it download the Bootloader, which it did successfully according to the window that came up. It then moved on to something else, when "It encountered a problem and needed to close." Now my Sansa has blue wave-like lines scrolling across it and is not recognized by Windows. How can I either r 00.22.43 # guest: your text got cut of at "How can I either r". irc has a limited line length 00.23.25 # Apart from that, if you hold the power button for a while (30 seconds or so should do it), the sansa should turn off. 00.24.34 # How can I either return it to its original state or complete the rockbox installation? 00.24.41 # And okay, I have turned it off. 00.25.09 # If you turn it on again, what happens? 00.26.50 # SanDisk black/grey screen like normal comes up, then on the main menu Refresh Database comes up, and it has a progress bar underneath it that seems to be moving slowly 00.27.29 Quit z35 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.27.41 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.28.33 # The bar filled and now it seems to be functioning normally 00.28.35 # ok, it seems like the installation failed early then, and nothing actually got installed 00.28.52 # That's the good news, no tedious recovery needed :) 00.29.16 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.247) 00.29.43 # Is there any bad news that goes along with that? 00.29.56 # Well, I have no idea why Rockbox Utility crashed 00.30.08 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.30.16 # Which operating system are you using? 00.30.20 # XP 00.31.43 # That should work well. I haven't heard anything like this before... 00.32.44 # Maybe some conflict with a specific driver, or specific software 00.32.59 # * gevaerts doesn't really have any idea here 00.33.59 # Should I try again and see what happens, or just go with the manual install? 00.34.43 # maybe try it one more time, yes 00.36.52 # Everything seems to be going smoothly now 00.36.57 Quit krazykit (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 00.37.37 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-457a4517.dyn.optonline.net) 00.37.41 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@mobile-166-137-137-045.mycingular.net) 00.43.51 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.47.43 # Okay, it's installed and running. Thank you 00.47.48 # Great! 00.48.48 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.49.04 Quit leavittx (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.49.38 Quit guest (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 00.50.25 Quit evilnick (Quit: evilnick) 00.50.33 Quit ender` (Quit: How many SEO experts does it take to change a light bulb, lightbulb, light, bulb, lamp, lighting, switch, sex, xxx, hardcore) 00.51.18 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.51.42 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 00.55.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.57.40 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.59.02 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053153115.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.59.12 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 00.59.12 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.59.42 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01.02.44 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 01.07.29 Quit froggyman (Quit: Bye) 01.10.33 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 01.12.43 # ok, thx for the help. 01.12.45 Quit Om3ga () 01.12.57 Quit huffpuff (Quit: leaving) 01.30.00 Part toffe82 01.32.00 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r27961): Sansa c200v2 is now unstable and no longer needs special consideration for sim builds 01.33.54 # r27961 build result: All green 01.34.36 Quit Gulopine (Quit: leaving) 01.34.59 Join Gulopine [0] (~gulopine@173-203-203-206.static.cloud-ips.com) 01.50.09 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 01.51.15 # Bug2000: % wget http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/clip/bootloader-clip.sansa % strings bootloader-clip.sansa|grep 'Boot ' Boot 2.0 01.51.47 # the bootloader is 2.0 01.52.30 # saratoga: i got ~ 9 hours of runtime on clipv1 01.53.06 # and no crashes when using cabbiev2 01.53.18 # 16h40 runtime on fuzev1 01.53.43 # funman: how does that compare? 01.54.07 # only a bit more (used to be 8h on clipv1, 14h45 on fuzev1 according to SansaRuntime) 01.54.51 # thats not bad 01.55.10 Join huffpuff [0] (~matthew@h181.29.188.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 01.55.18 # relevant diff: http://pastie.org/1130359 01.56.15 # whats the issue with reclocking PCLK on boost? 01.56.52 # no issue, i think it just needs to be implemented and benched (it might already be implemented) 01.57.00 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 01.57.11 # now we use fastbus so when unboosted, pclk = fclk 01.57.37 # that could stay if we did 32/32 and 128/64 01.58.44 # ah the problem would be we need to reclock all peripherals 02.01.01 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 02.01.01 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 02.01.01 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.01.08 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178058229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.01.30 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 02.01.34 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178058229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.01.40 Quit kugel (Changing host) 02.01.41 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 02.03.00 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.03.26 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-75-45-231-17.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 02.03.26 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 02.03.26 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.04.57 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 02.05.04 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178059037.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.05.26 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 02.05.30 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178059037.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.05.34 Quit kugel (Changing host) 02.05.34 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 02.05.40 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.05.44 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.06.03 Quit robin0800_ (Client Quit) 02.08.53 # New commit by 03funman (r27962): FS#11587 : voice for SWCODEC and low memory ... 02.10.42 # r27962 build result: All green 02.11.07 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 02.13.20 Join kaiscene [0] (kaiscene@ool-18e45d82.dyn.optonline.net) 02.13.27 Quit jhMikeS (Disconnected by services) 02.13.27 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.25.41 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 02.28.52 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 02.33.50 Quit clone4crw (Remote host closed the connection) 02.34.56 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 02.40.54 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-90-88.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 02.44.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.46.03 Join lestatar_ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.46.14 Nick lestatar_ is now known as lestatar (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.53.20 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 02.53.33 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 02.55.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.56.55 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.89) 02.57.19 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.57.41 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 03.00.00 Join Davide-NYC [0] (~chatzilla@user-12ld9nk.cable.mindspring.com) 03.02.14 # Anybody interested in a WebOS device to port Rockbox to? 03.02.24 # If you do the port you keep the device. 03.03.00 # If I wanted to post this offer someplace more visible to devs where would I post it? 03.04.13 # the -dev mailing list? 03.04.49 # Of course. 03.12.14 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 03.17.48 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.25.20 # Davide-NYC: you shuold be able to use alot of the android work as a base... 03.26.05 # I do not have the knowledge o the time an I have two of these devices. 03.26.21 # The offer has been made on the -dev email list. :-) 03.26.23 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 03.27.43 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (Dreamxtrem@92.30.27.156) 03.28.18 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Client Quit) 03.29.44 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.30.21 Part Gulopine 03.31.51 Quit Davide-NYC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 03.33.45 Quit _s1gma (Quit: irl ragequit) 04.14.40 Join steve|m1 [0] (~steve@p4FD4601D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.14.40 Quit steve|m (Disconnected by services) 04.15.13 Nick steve|m1 is now known as steve|m (~steve@p4FD4601D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.22.48 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.22.50 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.23.10 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.23.42 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.23.44 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.23.46 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.24.42 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.28.46 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.28.58 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.28.59 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 04.52.39 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fc27c.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.55.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.56.37 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.57.06 Quit Judas_PhD (Remote host closed the connection) 05.34.18 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.40.03 # gevaerts, if you read this: 1:20 minutes of buffering and wps load. 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That's not causing grief when loading a complex skin is it? 09.06.19 # hm, that's a lot 09.06.56 # Well, it depends really. *when* does it do that? 09.07.46 # If it's from early in the wps parsing, you're probably fine. If it's while parsing some deeply nested tags, I'd expect you might have problems 09.08.39 # assuming it is done in skin_font_load() then it is at the very end so no nesting 09.08.57 # yes, the end is OK too :) 09.10.43 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-143-107-207.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 09.13.32 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.13.39 # I tried doubling it and i'm not getting any crashes... 09.14.43 # Is it a certain target? 09.15.10 # Doubling it might not do much. The problems (if any) would occur for people who use complex skins that now are near the stack limit 09.15.19 # We don't have any numbers on that though 09.15.31 # The best way is really to check from where it's called 09.16.01 # I should have said 512 bytes before. (256x2) 09.17.08 # In which function is that? 09.17.55 # glyph_cache_load in firmware/font.c 09.25.44 # That's from skin_font_load(), so yes, it should be safe 09.30.04 # I'm not having any luck getting my iPod Video to crash... Sorry. Goodnight. 09.32.20 Quit freddyb (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100723085406]) 09.32.36 # re. glyphs and stacks: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11590 (Lear said it would have something to do with stack overflow possibly) 09.33.04 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.35.52 # although that's just a WPS with the user font 09.36.54 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 10.00.27 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@p4FF2DD5A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.03.22 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@g227065147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.04.01 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.04.28 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 10.05.38 # * S_a_i_n_t thanks pixelma for adding: FS#11593 - %Vf/%Vb (viewport colours) not working in conditionals 10.06.12 # I discovered this a week or so ago, and forgot about it...trying to do exactly what you were doing with the "warning" indicator for volume. 10.07.45 # I find the other bugs more important though because you can already do this with putting the stuff into their own viewports 10.09.57 # Oh..sure, but..if something should work...it should work ;) 10.10.14 # Otherwise, there was no point strippint the tags from the fiewport def 10.10.23 # *viewport, even. 10.10.38 # *stripping, also...gah 10.13.50 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 10.19.34 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@122.110.227.237) 10.20.01 # S_a_i_n_t: did u get a chance to test that patch? 10.20.34 Part Zagor 10.20.59 # JdGord: Yeah...I did. It seemed to work as expected, but, I kinda lost track of what the issue it was supposed to fix was. 10.21.40 # You didn't notice any issues with it related to timing? 10.21.47 # sublines seemed to "think twice" about changing on device, though. 10.22.19 # that's kinda hard to explain...sometimes there was pieces of the previous line left inplace until the new line scrolled over it :/ 10.22.36 # Timing seemed ok, though. 10.23.27 # ? 10.24.30 # when two lines alternated, sometimes there's chars left over from the previous line until the new line scrolls and "runs over" them. 10.25.32 # How would I go about profiling the skin display code? It almost certainly could be sped up 10.26.23 # Hmm. Ok that means the flag saying do a full clear isn't being set. Is this only some Kline's? 10.26.46 # Using the multimedia buttons on the clip is fun XD 10.27.17 # btw. 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I wondered if changing the WPS would be the correct way to "fix" it, it feels more like a workaround... :\ 10.27.41 # JdGord I have a feeling that the issue I'm seeing occasionally with sublines leaving chars behind is another issue entirely, perhaps aggrivated by something recently...I had definitely seen it prior to thepatch, but, only *very* occasionally. nowhere near as often as I saw last night. 10.28.44 # pixelma: That's very odd...I had that issue on some themes with the *old* parser...and the new parser seems to have fixed it. 10.31.08 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p548508BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.32.37 # I think I remember that JdGord said these parts wouldn't be cleared with the new parser 10.33.36 Quit einhirn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.36.16 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.38.33 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 10.45.30 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.47.03 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.55.20 Join webguest04 [0] (~cf664046@giant.haxx.se) 10.55.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.58.51 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.12.49 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.12.49 # gevaerts: hi, you suggested I use mformat instead of mkdosfs the other night on an ipod 5.5g 80gb. I was webguest412 that night. I didn't know what drive letter to give the mounted ipod so I tried "mformat -v RBiPod -n 2048 -F /dev/sde2", but it just returned a usage message. Any more suggestions? and is mformat really meant for such large filesystems? Thanks 11.13.44 # webguest04: you can configure drive letters in /etc/mtools.conf 11.14.14 # webguest04: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32 has some more information on mformat (near the end) 11.15.57 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 11.17.16 # gevaerts: sweet. yeah, I missed that bit at the end. Quit reading at the older method figuring the new method would do me just fine. I'll give this another go, thanks 11.19.35 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.20.11 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.20.25 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 11.22.55 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 11.33.34 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA557.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.58.05 # gevaerts: mini woot. mformat is now running (didn't flip me a usage message), so now I wait. Probably take a long time.... 12.08.24 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 12.08.30 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 12.15.17 # Hehehe...gotta love inconsistent bugs. 12.16.01 # I see pictureflow is plagued by aborts and undefined instructions on several targets, one reported target is Nano2G...whereas all mine are working fine ;) 12.24.38 # I wonder if it has only to do with pictureflow itself or if a theme problem is involved too as the crashes are reported when going directly from pictureflow to the WPS 12.26.43 # funman confirmed for the Fuze, maybe looking up the crash address helps 12.26.57 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-192-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.27.44 # it gets weirder...I now have to edit my post in the forums, and, negate the previous post here. 12.28.19 # I tried to reproduce it on several builds, updated my builds, and couldn't reproduce it...now, I can, every time :-S 12.28.45 Join Umrtvovacz [0] (~opera@ip-94-112-19-235.net.upcbroadband.cz) 12.28.51 # however, I can get *into* pictureflow from the WPS fine, I just can't commence playback. 12.29.06 # the address reported is always different, also. 12.29.13 # Hi, can i ask some questions about Rockbox? 12.29.21 # Of course! 12.29.26 # its the perfect place to ;) 12.29.35 # Is anyone here using Rockbox on Cowon D2+? 12.30.02 # Just ask your question, the channel is logged...someone will see it. 12.30.32 # How is Rockbox working with D2+? I read all the articles about it and i am still not sure whether the touchscreen is fully functional or not 12.30.49 # It is certainly usuable. 12.31.04 # also i need to be able to play .flac format of music because i am a little adiophile 12.31.10 # adiophile :-D 12.31.12 # people report problems with the current build 12.31.16 # .flac is supported. 12.31.25 # what are those problems? 12.32.10 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 12.33.18 # Umrtvovacz: the touchscreen more depends on the theme for how useable it is. If it is one done for the D2 it should work well 12.33.35 # if you are stuck with the grid touh mode then it isnt so much fun 12.34.03 # the touchscreen itself is supported, the UI is set to a 3x3 grid mode per default which lets you control everything but is quite different to what you are used to. You can set it to "absolute" mode, which means you can touch things directly but not all screens work with this yet 12.34.53 # Then what theme should i use? i want some simplistic, minimalistic and well-arranged one, with few colors and none pictures 12.35.10 # check the themesite. 12.35.12 # also one which should work in absolute mode 12.35.18 # I checked 12.35.19 # But, there are little options for the D2 12.35.55 # But i am not sure how to tell which one is working in absolute mode and which is practical for use 12.36.04 # You can always create a theme to suit your needs. 12.36.05 # also you need to use a SD card with it (which might not be an issue) 12.36.17 # It isn't as daunting as it may seem at first, especially if you only want a simple one. 12.36.43 # re. the problems: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10164.msg170972#msg170972 and following, that's all I know 12.36.52 # Yeah i've got 32gb SDHC card. it would be OK, right? 12.37.53 # Also i read about destroying cards on D2 page, and it scared the hell out of me 12.38.34 # Basically, if you don't want to take *any* risk at all...rockbox is not for you. 12.38.52 # there is always *some* risk something can go wrong, with any port. 12.38.56 # even stable ones. 12.39.01 # Hehe 12.39.08 # I love taking some risk 12.39.20 # i just dont want it to be REALLY dangerous 12.40.30 # Please could somebody recommend me some theme for my D2? 12.40.48 # If any of you have some experience with them 12.41.17 Join Kitr88 [0] (Kitarist@BSN-142-62-69.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.41.18 # Only those on the themesite, it's best to just install them and see for yourself. 12.41.41 # Okey, thanks. 12.42.11 # What is RG noCLip please? 12.43.55 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.44.11 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-55-59.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.44.18 # Also i hate the little silent pause in between songs on my original D2 firmaware. Is this on rockbox too or do songs play right after each other? 12.44.41 # RB supports gapless playback, yes. 12.44.51 Quit webguest04 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 12.45.30 # Thanks god, thats what I need. 12.45.31 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.45.45 # Thank you for very usefull info 12.46.06 # also, can you please point me to page how to create my own theme? 12.46.32 # one second.. 12.46.38 # Thanks very much :-) 12.46.56 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-cowond2/rockbox-build.html 12.47.09 # the manual lists theme tags. 12.47.24 # Thanks 12.47.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/CustomWPS 12.47.54 # also, but, the manual is the best source of *current* info 12.48.13 # info on the wiki may be out-of-date for theme syntax 12.49.32 # I read somwhere that i can dualbox both original D2 firmware and Rockbox at the same time. Is it possible? If yes, how can i do it? That would fit me best 12.50.18 # you can't run both firmwares at the same time, but, you can have the original firmware, and RB installed at the same time, yes. 12.50.49 # Thats what i meant. Sorry english is not my native language. 12.51.16 # And, the default installation allows dual-boot, I'm about 99% certain of this. 12.51.35 # the manual covers installation, and...pretty much everything else you might want to know ;) 12.51.53 # Thanks very much :-) 12.52.25 # Also, is it possible to use this theme http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=794&target=cowond2 but change background and font? 12.53.52 # sure, you can change *everything8 you see in that theme (within reason) 12.54.05 # Nice! 12.54.06 # um, *everything*, ratehr 12.54.14 # *rather 12.55.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.06 Join webguest12 [0] (~cf664045@giant.haxx.se) 13.00.10 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@111.220.205.105) 13.00.56 # What types of videofiles does Rockbox support? Can i play like 640x368 avi file with subtitules or do i need to converse them like with original firmware? 13.01.14 # check the manual ;) 13.01.30 # it explains everything about video playback. 13.01.41 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.01.53 # You will however, need to scale the video to your screen size. 13.02.11 # aw :-( 13.02.14 # I hate it 13.02.31 # WinFF will do this for you. 13.02.48 # I'll look it up. Thanks 13.05.07 # Umrtvovacz: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-cowond2/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-22500010.3.8 <--MPEG playback 13.05.17 # What about basic Rockbox skin? It seems quite minimalistic, how well it works with absolute mode of touchpad? 13.05.23 # Thanks 13.06.14 # About plugins, which ones are most usefull? 13.06.15 # I'm not sure as to whether or not the default skin (cabbieV2) supports absolute mode or not, sorry. 13.06.24 # No prob. 13.06.48 # Depends on what you class as "usefull" ;) 13.07.12 # it should work more or less fine... 13.07.28 # someone really needs to put some effort into a cabbie sbs with touch support 13.07.36 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-cowond2/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-22500010.3.8 <--D2 Plugins. 13.07.52 # * JdGordon1 prods S_a_i_n_t again for the popup image :) 13.08.08 # I'll even trade you a bug fix for it! :) 13.08.55 # Thats a lot of plugins 13.09.05 # Most seem fun :-) 13.09.07 # not really... most are shit and not worth trying :D 13.09.29 # S_a_i_n_t: I think I'm going to close FS#11579 13.10.03 # For a number of reasons: 1) It isn't worth confusing users for a personal preference change that has no real justification 2) It breaks consistency with all other targets 13.10.36 Quit mischasworld (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.10.40 Quit webguest12 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 13.11.20 # there's plenty more useless crap you could close before that! ;) 13.11.43 # Sure, but you have to start somewhere :) 13.11.58 # I closed an arse load during devcon, but haven't got back to it since 13.12.07 # there needs to be a "melting pot" of patches not necessarily considered for committing, but which some people may find usefull. 13.12.16 # There is a wiki page for that 13.12.22 # Started during devcon :) 13.12.22 # I realise however, that the tracker is not that place 13.12.30 # UsefulPatched or some such 13.12.33 # there is? linky? 13.12.35 # Only one thing on it atm IIRC 13.12.41 # Aha...awesome...thanks. 13.12.42 # switching context/quickscreen could be easily done in a setting 13.12.51 # which isnt NOdO anym,ore :) 13.13.09 # JdGordon1: But then you get the "ewwww, too many settings" naysayers. 13.13.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsefulPatches 13.13.17 # which for this, I'd probably agree with. 13.13.28 # S_a_i_n_t: bugger them :) 13.13.34 # :D 13.13.43 # S_a_i_n_t: I'd argue against an option to switch two functions - if you are going to start playing around then make it fully configurable 13.13.59 # Please don't have seventeen different configurable button settings! 13.14.18 # exactly - if buttons are going to get configurable then go the whole hog and do it properly 13.14.21 # only because you asked so nicely :) 13.14.22 # One general mechanism is much saner 13.14.41 # It isn't a nodo, someone just has to come up with a good system, then implement it :) 13.14.55 # I put the patch up after a conversation with... bertrik(?) where we both decided that the context menu made more sense on the button clearly labled "Menu". 13.15.14 # I think it's a DoItRight though 13.15.23 # gevaerts: Exactly 13.15.44 # S_a_i_n_t: In that case you need general agreement to change it for all targets 13.15.50 # Not just one random one 13.16.00 # but, it only makes sense for that one. 13.16.28 # well, *those* one(s) 13.16.28 # Why? 13.16.42 # Plenty of other targets have buttons marked menu as well 13.16.51 # because I'm not sure if any other target has the clearly labled "Menu" button. 13.16.57 # ah...well, ok. 13.17.01 # Also, you know with all targets that the button that does select also does context menu 13.17.11 # It is nicely consistent 13.17.18 # I can pick up any and know that 13.17.45 # Another aspect the patch has (which I like) is it stops you from messing up quickscreen settings when trying to do a "charge only" connection. 13.18.00 # That is an argument for moving the charging button 13.18.12 # but anyway, it is pointless left open 13.18.12 # yeah...I tried that ;) 13.18.19 # that conversation went *very* badly. 13.18.32 # It isn't going to go in anytime soon (if ever) and just clutters up the tracker 13.18.58 # yeah...I see your point, you *don't* have to justify yourself. 13.19.00 # And it is such a trivial change that if it is decided any committer can do it in 30 seconds 13.19.02 # Is there some Donate button anywhere? Preferably Paypall. 13.19.10 # Umrtvovacz: Should be one on the front page 13.19.22 # http://www.rockbox.org/ 13.19.23 # On every page in fact 13.19.24 # yeah just saw it sorry :-( 13.19.29 # towards the bottom 13.19.31 # its small :-D 13.19.39 # No need to be sorry if you are abiout to click it :) 13.20.27 # Perhaps he jst wanted to know what it looked like so he didn't click it accidentally ;) 13.20.34 # hehe :) 13.21.06 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 13.21.31 Quit _s1gma (Max SendQ exceeded) 13.22.17 # Yeah exactly :-D 13.22.26 # I hope even small donates helps 13.23.30 # certainly does, thanks :) 13.23.47 # Rockbox is in Czech language too? 13.23.55 # thats surely a surprise 13.24.23 # i'll use english anway 13.24.43 # Actually, it looks like Czech is one of the better supported translations 13.24.48 # I think the most surprising one (to me anyway) is Esperanto ;) 13.24.49 # but you know i didnt expected to see any czech 13.25.12 # does anybody speak that in real? 13.25.18 # i mean esperanto 13.25.25 # Apparently. 13.25.36 # czech is spoken by like 11m people but esperanto? :-D 13.26.50 # What about Voice Files? My experience is that every gadget that tries to speak to me sounds funny. 13.28.25 # It certainly sounds very mechanical, and computerised...but, understandable. 13.28.42 # That would scare the hell out of me :-D 13.28.50 # Does it reads E-books? 13.28.52 # it depends on how the voice file was created 13.29.04 # It is there primarily for vision impaired users as I understand it. 13.29.17 # More of a novelty for the sighted. 13.29.50 # If it is capable of reading e-books then it could be hugely usefull, for i can't read e-books while driving, obviously. 13.30.22 # No, it can't. 13.30.30 # That would need in core TTS support. 13.30.47 # the voice files are pre-generated. 13.31.10 # :-( 13.33.05 # Thanks for all your help, I am gonna install Rockbox right now, I think i can find all other needed info by myself, otherwise i'll ask you again. 13.35.01 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.40.02 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 13.40.11 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li14-39.members.linode.com) 13.50.34 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.52.32 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 13.53.58 Quit tchan (Read error: Operation timed out) 14.00.37 Join teru [0] (~teru@ZQ175099.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.04.53 Quit cjcopi (Quit: ... going, going, gone) 14.15.16 # I have read about Theme Editor but can't find it. Could please somebody point me out? 14.16.26 Quit seani (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14.28.51 Join seani [0] (~seani@109.224.128.185) 14.29.11 # Rockbox sais: 14.29.11 # ATA 14.29.11 # mount 14.29.11 DBUG Enqueued KICK Umrtvovacz 14.29.11 # file not found 14.29.23 # What did i did wrong please? 14.29.46 # to be exact Rockbox loader 14.33.20 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r27964): Remove ram entries for ipodvideo* as they are no longer needed and cause problems with tools/release/sims.pl 14.33.46 Quit tchan1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.34.18 # Umrtvovacz: did you install rockbox itself? 14.34.38 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.34.56 # r27964 build result: All green 14.35.04 # I think so 14.35.12 # I cant install "Full" tho 14.35.33 # Umrtvovacz: do you have a .rockbox dir in the root of your device containing the rockbox files? 14.35.52 # yeah 14.36.01 # I surely do 14.36.41 # Maybe i can not use "Full" beacuse D2+ is not stable? 14.36.51 # because* 14.36.52 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4DE71.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.36.57 # ah d2, dunno if that has any special quirks 14.37.30 # :-( 14.38.01 # from the wiki "If an SD card is inserted at power on, Rockbox will boot from that card and use it as the primary drive for storing settings, etc." 14.38.12 # oh 14.38.13 # so install to the sd card if you use it 14.38.25 # thats great help, thanks 14.38.30 # now one more question 14.38.38 # how do i install rockbox on a card? 14.38.50 # just download and unzip to the card 14.39.00 # the utility can probably not do this 14.39.02 # oh 14.39.04 # thanks 14.40.55 # Umrtvovacz: to boot on rockbox with the D2 don't forget to put the device on Hold immediately after powering on 14.41.07 # I did 14.41.18 # I just have to put it on card now, thanks you all 14.41.38 # booting using the internal memory works on D2, but I'm not sure about the D2+ 14.41.56 # Doesnt seems so 14.42.16 # anyway, using the internal memory is useless since you cannot store settings 14.42.41 # oh :-D 14.42.53 # i just guessed how to save it 14.43.01 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.43.11 # the wiki says that it boots from internal memory if there's no sd card inserted when booting 14.43.29 # i do have card 14.44.54 # so i just put the .rockbox on an SD card? 14.45.13 # yes 14.45.22 # Nice. Thanks 14.45.25 # and don't forget to flash the patched firmware 14.45.46 # I did already. Thanks. 14.46.05 # can i have another q? 14.46.36 # Where can i get Theme Editor? 14.46.50 # i would love to make my own, simple one 14.47.47 # I don't think there are any builds (but I might be wrong), you'll need to compile it 14.48.46 # Umrtvovacz: what OS are you using? 14.49.10 # you can get builds (Windows only) here: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/themeeditor/ 14.49.25 # I am using WIndows 7 Pro 14.49.27 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 14.50.13 # Thanks-a-lot 14.51.59 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.55.18 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.55.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.58.40 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 15.02.14 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 15.22.42 Quit krazykit (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 15.25.45 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.27.10 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.35.25 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 15.36.35 # ah cool 15.36.40 # I didn't know they existed 15.39.09 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.182.189) 15.44.22 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.48.06 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (~tchan@c-69-243-144-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.48.14 Quit tchan (Changing host) 15.48.14 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 15.55.50 Quit storm` () 15.58.18 Part LinusN 15.59.44 # the problem with pictureflow is the plugin returning PLUGIN_GOTO_WPS 16.00.10 # http://pastie.org/1131548 <- crashes immediately 16.01.29 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.01.46 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 16.03.22 # root_menu.c:658 next_screen = load_plugin_screen(...pictureflow.rock) 16.03.41 # load_plugin_screen() returns -2 (== GO_TO_WPS) 16.10.44 # hm -2 == GO_TO_PREVIOUS 16.12.17 # New commit by 03funman (r27965): load_plugin_screen(): handle all plugin_load() return values ... 16.14.08 # r27965 build result: All green 16.17.01 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.17.06 # saratoga: do you remember if we made battery bench on AMSv1 with boosting completely disabled? 16.17.47 Join IuDeX [0] (~4e83d3b2@giant.haxx.se) 16.18.08 # All: ok for marking the clipv1 stable? 16.18.09 # hi all 16.18.30 # I have one question. Rockbox works on e200v3? 16.18.41 # In informations I have v03. 16.19.41 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC573CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.19.46 # IuDeX: e200 with firmware v03.x is e200v2, and yes it works 16.19.59 # funman: ok, thanks. 16.20.01 Quit IuDeX (Client Quit) 16.20.05 # firmware v01.x is e200v1, firmware v03.x is e200v2. There is no firmware v02.x for e200 16.20.19 # check the manual for e200v2 it is explained 16.24.03 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 16.32.55 # fu 16.33.19 # +nman; Pictureflow is expected to be fixed now? 16.33.27 # funman: ^ 16.39.18 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.49.15 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 16.55.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.57.34 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@mobile-166-137-138-112.mycingular.net) 16.58.04 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 17.03.35 Part Zagor 17.11.17 Quit _s1gma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.11.54 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 17.13.08 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 17.13.10 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.13.27 Quit _s1gma (Max SendQ exceeded) 17.19.37 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 17.21.21 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 17.23.44 # S_a_i_n_t: yes, why do you still have problems? 17.29.38 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@64.134.150.84) 17.38.51 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.39.17 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 17.50.11 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 17.50.24 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@mobile-166-137-136-149.mycingular.net) 17.53.02 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.53.02 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@mobile-166-137-136-149.mycingular.net) 17.54.30 Quit evilnick (Client Quit) 17.59.25 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.59.45 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 17.59.54 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.04.09 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18.11.48 Join lestatar_ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 18.14.31 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 18.15.50 Quit lestatar (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.15.58 Nick lestatar_ is now known as lestatar (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 18.17.14 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@mobile-166-137-139-112.mycingular.net) 18.23.48 Join Lear [0] (chatzilla@rockbox/developer/lear) 18.24.06 Join webguest59 [0] (~52c1391a@giant.haxx.se) 18.26.58 Quit evilnick (Quit: evilnick) 18.29.52 Quit webguest59 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.36.19 Quit Not-iH8sn0w (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.43.27 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@mobile-166-137-139-112.mycingular.net) 18.46.11 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Ex-Chat) 18.47.25 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 18.49.25 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.131.249) 18.53.34 Quit evilnick (Quit: evilnick) 18.55.13 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A9BB47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.55.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.57.29 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.58.28 Quit l403 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.02.44 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.02.59 # we don't have software bass&treble, right? 19.03.02 Join l403 [0] (~l@gw8.vslesy.cz) 19.03.43 # yes we do 19.05.19 # :? 19.05.57 # couldn't it be done with the dsp rather easily? 19.06.52 # which dsp? 19.07.14 # the software dsp 19.08.23 # apps/dsp.c already does bass and treble 19.09.11 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.09.24 # it's used on targets which can't do it in hardware, e.g. the Iaudios 19.09.41 # or sansa 19.10.30 # hm, the settings code is only enabled for AUDIOHW_HAVE_BASS/_TREBLE 19.11.56 # I remember seeing a hack with that, basically meaning that AUDIOHW_HAVE_BASS is always set 19.12.57 # see firmware/export/audiohw.h line 237 19.13.47 # strange 19.14.50 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Departure.) 19.20.15 # Neat, just managed to speed up Cygwin on 64-bit systems quite noticeably (process creation only, but it affects Rockbox builds a bit). :) 19.20.29 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 19.22.47 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.28.01 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A9BB47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.28.30 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.36.36 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.36.53 # Lear: how? 19.37.26 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A9BB47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.37.29 Quit kramer3d (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.38.18 # funman: Move some initialization, so that a thread isn't created during init of the cygwin1.dll 19.39.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.40.20 # hello 19.40.21 # is it worth sharing with other cygwin users? 19.40.39 # bertrik: thanks for the hint 19.41.43 # funman: Already sent a mail to the cygwin mailing list (another guy had found a change that slowed things down, and I basically continued that work). 19.42.16 # why does it only improve? 64-bit 19.42.26 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.42.26 # * kugel moves the "?" around 19.42.52 # kugel: Don't as me, ask Microsoft. :) 19.45.11 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 19.47.35 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r27966): Remove Ipod Video 64MB handling. ... 19.47.55 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.49.17 # r27966 build result: All green 19.49.32 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.53.24 # * kugel needs to see that AAF patch on his phone 19.57.57 Quit kaiscene () 20.05.23 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 20.22.09 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.34.44 # has anyone looked into newer gcc versions for coldfire lately? 20.37.29 # n1s I believe and someone else (Lear?) 20.38.06 # I haven't done it lately... 20.39.04 # getting tired of our outdated gcc :> 20.39.15 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.39.28 # it would make sense to use the same version on all archs 20.39.37 # preglow: IIRC n1s has recently tried and it was quite promosing 20.39.44 # kugel: good to hear 20.39.58 # according to the change logs, gcc _should_ have several coldfire improvements over our version 20.40.04 # some asm failed to compile but I think that's fixed in svn 20.44.02 Join webguest82 [0] (~d809bb3e@giant.haxx.se) 20.44.38 # preglow: OTOH gcc tends to have a lot of undocumented regressions too :) 20.45.16 # hmm, 4.3 has better scheduling for cfv2, which we use 20.45.28 # kugel: sure, if it has serious regressions it's not too good 20.45.46 # but most of the time we can work around them, just like we had to massage the code when we first adapted it for 3.4 20.51.04 Join storm` [0] (~lol@ip98-179-182-180.ri.ri.cox.net) 20.51.33 Quit kramer3d (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.52.32 # how's gigabeat F/X battery performance compared to OF ? 20.52.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GigabeatRuntime doesn't mention OF 20.55.21 # GSoC mentors: please see committers list 20.55.33 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 20.55.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.56.24 # they say 16 hours on the service manual 20.57.01 # Approx. 16 hours** (Built-in battery) 20.57.02 # Assuming 128 kbps, 44.1 kHz WMA tracks, in normal temperature 20.57.04 # (25°C), backlight unlit, volume adjusted to center 20.57.48 # so rockbox performs identical or quite better in some cases 20.59.11 # Definitely. I've seen more than 20 hours on two different ones 20.59.12 # better I had more than 17 hours on one gigabeat if I remember, with an old battery 20.59.32 # Both second hand, so the battery *might* not be original 21.00.32 # Actually, one of those was about 24 hours 21.02.49 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC573CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.05.24 # the wiki says 22hours+ for an original battery 21.05.47 # i'm trying some things on AMSv1 to enhance battery life 21.06.06 # set_cpu_frequency() works in a similar way on AMSv1 & gigabeat F/X 21.07.21 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 21.08.15 Quit kramer3d (Client Quit) 21.14.27 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.23.55 # funman: the stock battery isn't even much stronger than the fuze's one, there must be a culprit 21.24.45 Join xchrisx [0] (~5d6118db@giant.haxx.se) 21.26.14 Join likemindead [0] (4715103a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.21.16.58) 21.26.36 # funman: 22 hours is not for the original battery it is for the bigger one 21.27.28 # toffe82: the last entry for the F40 says 22.5h for the stock battery 21.28.57 # * likemindead just bought a Gigabeat (60GB)! :-) 21.29.06 # somebody else has to confirm it , it is a big difference with the old version of rockbox 21.29.52 Quit xchrisx (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.29.57 Join xchrisx [0] (~5d6118db@giant.haxx.se) 21.30.27 # funman: he say infinit repeat of an album, if the album fits in memory, it can explain, no disk access so better battery life 21.31.44 # kugel: it was for you too 21.32.55 # fuze can't get that much runtime, even without disk access 21.33.36 # does the microsd have an influence? 21.35.53 # probably but much less than physical rotating disk 21.36.37 # does sd powerdown work? 21.40.17 # it should 21.41.52 # hm we don't set bit 9 of MCI_CLOCK (PwrSave), I don't remember if we tested this already 21.48.37 # i can't find mention of it in git log, definitely worth trying 21.49.11 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.58.34 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 21.59.07 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.03.11 # * preglow wonders what happened to the audio recording api 22.05.46 # preglow: still in apps/recorder/ it seems 22.06.46 Quit Battousai (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.07.00 Quit jfc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.07.22 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 22.07.34 # noob question: my toddler got a hold of my 30GB ipod video with rockbox, and now prev/next track buttons are rw/ff. How do I change it back? Couldn't find that setting anywhere. 22.09.10 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 22.09.28 # funman: yeah, just noticed that my audio plugins don't compile any more 22.14.02 Join webguest88 [0] (~cf66404c@giant.haxx.se) 22.14.02 Part likemindead 22.15.21 # To clarify, I used to be able to click the next track button and it would skip to the next track, now it just fast forwards a split second. That's not default behavior is it? 22.16.33 # Hi. anyone know roughly how long mformat should take on a 80gb ipod? Mine's been going all night and I still haven't got the command prompt back 22.16.35 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 22.17.01 # webguest88: that seems *very* lon 22.17.02 # g 22.17.08 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.17.25 # webguest82: sounds like Skip Length setting has been changed. Default is "Skip Track" 22.17.28 # webguest88: it should take maybe thirty seconds 22.17.35 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 22.17.35 # webguest88: maybe a couple of minutes if your computer really sucks? 22.17.44 # webguest82: (that's in the Playback Settings) 22.18.14 # webguest88: what command line did you use? 22.19.02 # gevaerts, Torne: hmm, mkdosfs took a long time too, but when I woke up it was finished 22.19.14 # webguest88: neither should take more than a few minutes 22.19.20 # i would expect less than a minute 22.19.59 # Torne: "mformat -v RBiPod -t 2428 -h 255 -n 63 -S 4 -M 2048 -F i:" I wonder if the the number of tracks is right for an 80gb drive. I just took that of the wiki 22.20.37 # s/took that of/took that off/ 22.21.30 # webguest88: right, that should only take a minute or two, I am guessing you have a drive problem 22.22.37 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 22.22.53 # Torne: anything I can do to know for sure? as far as I can tell it works fine with the native os, though I've owned it for only a couple of days and have done nothing but surf the menus playsome games and try to install rockbox:) 22.23.10 # webguest88: if it works fine with the apple OS why are you formatting it? 22.23.16 # pamaury: did you do anything about your idea to support having the sim run from a disk image? 22.23.24 # you should only need to be doing this to recover an ipod that doesn't boot 22.23.38 # it's best to avoid trying to format it with anything other than itunes unless you absolutely have to 22.24.17 # Torne: I only got it when I heard about Rockbox. Tha t's what I want to try to do to it. More music formats, no drm, longer battery 22.24.42 # You dont need to do anything to the ipod before installing rockbox, if it already boots fine 22.24.46 # just install rockbox, and that's it 22.24.58 # webguest88: maybe have a look at the diagnostics. There's a way to get to them... 22.25.04 # though now if you've partially reformatted it obviously it's not going to work any more ;) 22.25.07 # it was hfs+ when I got it, so I had to format it and I don't have a mac or windows machine 22.25.10 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.25.17 # ah, right 22.25.27 # well, the easiest and most reliable thing to do is to borrow the use of a windows machine. 22.25.30 # unfortunately. 22.25.34 # :) 22.25.45 # And then find a fat32 formatting tool 22.25.55 # well, then install itunes :) 22.26.09 # * Torne shrugs 22.26.10 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 22.26.15 # True. It would be someone else's windows machine anyway :) 22.27.08 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@node31.seg40.ucf.edu) 22.27.17 # anyway, it really shouldn't take taht long to format it 22.27.31 # formatting only requires that it writes about a hundred meg or so :) 22.27.38 # gevaerts: a fat32 formatting tool? wouldn't i just use dos mode FORMAT or what ever it's called 22.27.49 # webguest88: IIRC that's limited to 32GB 22.27.56 # oh 22.28.10 # indeed it is; windows refuses to format disks larger than 32GB with FAT 22.28.14 # Although that might only be a limitation of the GUI tool. I'm not sure 22.28.24 # There are tools around though 22.28.24 # gevaerts: no, cli too 22.28.38 # So in other words, I'm done with this project until I can get me to a windows machine? 22.29.00 # webguest88: not necessarily, the manual formatting isntructions should work 22.29.04 Quit bieber (Remote host closed the connection) 22.29.12 # the fact that it's not workign for you *probably* means your disk is broken, or some other hilarious problem :) 22.29.17 # webguest88: try the diagnostics mode, and see if it says anything bad about the disk 22.29.39 # google probably knows the button combination to get into that 22.29.39 # Torne: Can you see anything wrong with the command I used? 22.29.41 # yah. reboot the player with menu+select then as soon as it resets switch to holding rewind+select 22.29.56 # then hit manual -> io -> disk -? smart info 22.30.04 # or something similar to that, i forget the exact menu options 22.30.32 # okay, rockbox has smart for spinning disks? 22.30.49 # no, the ipod diagnostic rom does 22.31.09 # adding it to rockbox is on my todo list. somewhere in the middle. :) 22.31.42 # hmm, can't seem to ctrl+c this errant mformat command 22.32.02 # unplug the thing. That should help 22.32.13 # have you looked in your dmesg, btw? 22.32.17 # to see if you are getting disk errors? 22.32.52 Join bieber [0] (~bieber@node31.seg40.ucf.edu) 22.33.14 # gevaerts: do you really mean to just unplug it? 22.33.20 # gevaerts: yes I did but did not finished, it should be easy though 22.33.26 # you need such a thing ? 22.33.36 Quit bieber (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.33.48 Join bieber [0] (~bieber@node31.seg40.ucf.edu) 22.33.59 # pamaury: I wouldn't mind having a go at this mkdosfs vs mformat issue on 80GB ipods 22.34.05 # Torne: no :(, will have a look at the logs 22.34.12 Quit bieber (Client Quit) 22.34.15 # Being able to run the fat driver in gdb would be nice then 22.34.26 Join bieber [0] (~bieber@node31.seg40.ucf.edu) 22.34.26 # gevaerts: give me a minute to see the state of my patch :) 22.34.42 # pamaury: I'm not planning on doing that *today* :) 22.34.48 # webguest88: why not? It's not as if it has critical data on it 22.35.02 # gevaerts: Anyway, I want to have a look at it *now* :) 22.35.58 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.36.09 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@node31.seg40.ucf.edu) 22.36.12 Quit bieber_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.37.23 # iirc, the code was theorically working but I had difficulties producing a disk image, because I need a MBR + the fast fs, so mkfs is not sufficient, you need fdisk to, it's a mess :D 22.38.20 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@node31.seg40.ucf.edu) 22.38.24 # Is it that hard? Just use your USB code too, and you can handle it as a real disk :) 22.38.38 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 22.38.39 Quit bieber_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.39.00 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.39.06 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.39.16 # true but I haven't touch my usb code in a while and it's a good thing to be able to test it directly. Do you imagine debugging the usb code+fat code at the same time ;) 22.39.55 # maybe :) 22.44.32 # Yes, logs are good "VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sde1", but I put "drive i: file="/dev/sde2"" in /etc/mtools.conf 22.44.51 # _jhMikeS_: around? 22.46.14 # _jhMikeS_: if you read this later: are there any new surprises hanging about when doing full duplex audio? 22.46.21 # _jhMikeS_: trying to make my old flanger.c plug work again :§ 22.46.29 # Can't get into diagnostic mode either, but now I have to go to work :( 22.47.38 Quit Brownout () 22.51.05 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 22.51.24 # grr, another uisimulator change that broke my patch 22.51.55 # Hi, trying to build rbutil on FreeBSD 8, getting "Makefile", line 10: Need an operator and ditto for line 12, can anyone advise? 22.52.32 # xchrisx: is that with GNU make? 22.53.40 # it's just make 22.54.26 Quit webguest82 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.54.32 # IIRC that's not GNU make on freebsd. That might be the problem 22.54.34 # Try gmake 22.55.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.59.27 Join mischasworld [0] (~quassel@g227065147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.59.30 # looking better but now I get ../../tools/version.sh: not found, trying to build dualboot.c 23.02.42 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.03.14 # kugel: ping 23.04.20 Join Brownout [0] (~brownout@wikimedia/brownout) 23.04.58 # pamaury: pong 23.05.02 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 23.05.47 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.07.32 # The 2nd of august, you committed a changed to debug.h: 23.07.44 # -#define LDEBUGF(...) ldebugf(__FILE__, __LINE__, __VA_ARGS__) 23.07.44 # +#define LDEBUGF(...) ldebugf(__FILE__, __LINE__, __VA_ARGS__) && defined(DEBUG) 23.07.48 # why ? 23.08.22 # looks like a mistake 23.08.42 # yes 23.09.20 # Can I change this, then ? 23.09.24 Join hype [0] (~hype@82.199.174.16) 23.09.39 # yea 23.10.21 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.11.22 # New commit by 03pamaury (r27967): Revert an accidentaly change to debug.h that prevent simulator+debug build 23.12.35 # pamaury: simulator should really be a DEBUG build by default (it was like that ages ago) 23.12.54 Quit mischasworld (Remote host closed the connection) 23.12.57 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@inet20909nc-1s.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl) 23.13.07 # r27967 build result: All green 23.13.34 # it doesn't matter, it causes a compile error :D 23.19.43 # ah, back to the normal state: disk driver complaining about missing MBR :) 23.20.01 # loopback devices should help there 23.20.07 # * pamaury always have to fight against kugel's changes to uisimulator 23.20.54 # gavaerts: gmake works, but now missing lrelease, I'll have a play with that, thanks 23.23.29 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 23.25.58 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 23.29.37 # New commit by 03kugel (r27968): Ged rid of uisimulator/common/io.c for android builds. ... 23.31.41 # r27968 build result: 1654 errors, 97417 warnings (kugel committed) 23.32.13 # New commit by 03kugel (r27969): Android: Enable software tone controls 23.33.42 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.34.14 # r27969 build result: 1654 errors, 97417 warnings (kugel committed) 23.35.32 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 23.37.00 # hm, some latest changes seems to have broken compilaton again 23.37.03 Quit DarkMalloc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.38.12 Join DarkMalloc [0] (~DarkMallo@2607:f0d0:1002:92::2) 23.39.12 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.42.17 # dir.h clearly includes dircache.h which defines DIR_CACHED :/ 23.44.10 # ah right, I forgot we have exceptions about "no typedefs!" :) 23.46.00 # New commit by 03kugel (r27970): struct DIR -> DIR, should fix most if not all reds. 23.46.14 # * pamaury takes a hammer and mentally destroys the usb key which fucking doesn't work with my patch 23.46.41 # * pamaury rule 1: my code is not buggy, something else is 23.48.02 # r27970 build result: 8 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed) 23.56.48 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.58.02 # New commit by 03kugel (r27971): Fix database