--- Log for 04.09.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 20 days and 1 hour ago 00.03.45 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.04.01 Join andash [0] (~andash@h-120-242.A254.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.04.07 Quit andash (Changing host) 00.04.07 Join andash [0] (~andash@unaffiliated/andash) 00.04.36 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.07.03 # look the position of dfifo_depth 00.07.26 Quit andash (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.09.20 # in 4xx config, dfifo_depth is 16 lsb, in other config, it's 16 msb 00.11.00 # well so the register is different 00.11.29 # all registers are this way 00.11.49 # because the endianness is different I guess so you need to reverse the order 00.11.55 # that might be a gcc trick too 00.12.02 # endianess works with bytes not group of 2 bytes 00.12.05 # because the order of the fields is actuallu undefined 00.12.15 # then it's gcc thing 00.13.29 # if you have a close look, all register fields are in reverse order if i'm correct 00.13.46 # it seems so 00.14.07 # but now that's you are talking about it, the definition I chose for hwcfg3 is not consistent with my other choices 00.14.08 # i think we already found some code in the OF which goes well with the CONFIG_4xx registers 00.14.50 # like ? 00.15.01 # hm no hwcfg3 is consistent with the others i think? you use the definition at line 718 00.15.45 # oh yes, you're right, I misread :) 00.16.16 # It seems impossible that I reversed all the registers and that it works sometimes ! 00.16.34 # pcgctl &= ~(1<<0); // 0x3030B814 in clip+ OF 01.0.209 00.16.37 # 01.02.09* 00.17.03 # pamaury: well something is wrong somewhere so i'm just putting my nose where i can :) 00.17.11 # and you're right :) 00.17.21 # ok so what is this line doing ? 00.18.02 # there is no pcgctl register 00.18.19 # pcgcctl? 00.18.27 # ah yes :) 00.18.36 # according to you, it 'clears "stop pclk"' 00.18.55 # * funman slaps CIA-81 00.18.56 # the high bits are unused: 00.19.02 # unsigned reserved : 27; 00.19.09 # so it's but be lsb 00.19.14 # New commit by 03funman (r27995): revert r27991 ... 00.19.27 # which is consistent with !CONFIG_4xx no ? 00.19.41 # r27995 build result: All green 00.21.07 # yes 00.21.15 # argh i mean no 00.21.38 # it's consistent with CONFIG_4xx if i consider that the last member of the struct is the lsb 00.22.13 # that's completely stupid, there are symmetric, both are lsb :) 00.23.46 # what? 00.23.59 Join andash_ [0] (~andash@h-120-242.A254.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.24.00 Quit andash_ (Changing host) 00.24.00 Join andash_ [0] (~andash@unaffiliated/andash) 00.24.50 # endianess affects bytes not bits 00.24.54 # you said that it's can be endianness related so it must a gcc trick. So both must be lsb 00.25.26 # i doubt it 00.25.37 # the order could well be different 00.25.51 # bit-endianness ? 00.26.34 # call it another way, but yeah why not 00.28.16 # but then how can you tell which config the controller is ? 00.28.41 # grep shows CONFIG_4xx in arch/powerpc so it could be endianness o: 00.28.55 Quit andash_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.29.07 # if all the registers are completely symetric it doesn't matter 00.29.40 # as far as I noticed, all registers are symmetric, it took me quite some time to check but I have missed something 00.31.02 # 'config 4xx_SOC' is in arch/powerpc/Kconfig 00.32.21 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 00.33.05 Join andash [0] (~andash@h-120-242.A254.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.33.05 Quit andash (Changing host) 00.33.05 Join andash [0] (~andash@unaffiliated/andash) 00.34.31 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 00.37.15 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@2001:0:4137:9e76:6d:1d47:e73e:d446) 00.37.47 Quit user890104 () 00.37.49 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.41.41 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.48.25 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 00.54.06 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.56.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.57.44 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.250) 00.58.30 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.59.55 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053152026.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.59.55 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 00.59.55 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.02.46 Quit andash (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.03.54 Join andash_ [0] (~andash@unaffiliated/andash) 01.04.20 Part andash_ 01.05.56 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.14.02 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 01.15.50 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 01.28.56 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.30.15 Join Chipsaru [0] (~Miranda@92-244-114-61.kievnet.com.ua) 01.33.33 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.34.14 Part toffe82 01.38.33 # Hi. Is there any iRiver H3** expert? I bricked my h340 a few moments ago by flashing wrong firmware image (it was a pure accident). Now it shows blank white screen if I power up it and I can't load stock iRiver firmware. Is there any way to flash it again? May be some serial console or so? 01.39.41 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01.42.32 # Chipsaru: Have you tried the Rockbox Wiki? 01.44.23 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 01.45.56 # S_a_i_n_t: Yes, but didn't find anything similar (maybe I somehow missed that?) 01.46.10 # perhaps...also, try google. 01.46.40 # h3xx+recovery from bad flash (or similar) 01.49.21 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Quit: +++ OK ATH OK) 01.49.24 # Chipsaru: A bit of googling suggests that you probably aren't going to recover your device unless you have specific hardware for doing so. 01.49.48 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 01.51.07 # Chipsaru: I found this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18407.0 on the Rockbox forum. 01.51.24 # It seems to suggest you have very poor odds of recovering your device 01.51.25 # S_a_i_n_t: But someone who did port rockbox for this player unbricked it somehow. 01.51.51 # With special hardware. 01.51.52 # Chipsaru: Yes, a developer...with the hardware necessary to do so. 01.52.22 # the important part is the "with special hardware" 01.52.41 # it would possibly cost more for you to abtain that hardware, then it would a new player. 01.52.48 # *obtain 01.53.00 # *than 01.53.02 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.15.145) 01.54.13 # I understand that I need some hardware, but maybe I can solder it myself or with help of friends? 01.54.40 # it isn't a case of "just solder X to Y" as I understand it. 01.55.16 # The procedure is pretty bloody complicated, and wrought with all sorts of hillarious potential mishap as I understand it. 01.56.25 # You have to understand, when installing Rockbox, that there is *always* a chance of turning your favourite DAP into a worthless piece of jumk. 01.56.37 # It is a risk you took when you installed it. 02.00.19 # I have a body of the same player which motherboard died some time ago, maybe I can resolder flash chip from that player? 02.01.09 # Perhaps...but, unless you're *really* good with a soldering iron, and soldering micro pitch, I would forget it. 02.01.32 # I replaced a NAND in a Nano2G, and I never want to have to do that ever again. 02.01.46 # they are *not* designed to be soldered by hand...at all. 02.04.51 # It's a pity that it's a software only problem and all hardware was fine before that firmware upgrade :( 02.05.58 # the BDM wiggler is not super complicated or expensive, iirc 02.06.01 # but it'snot trivial or cheap either 02.06.38 # Torne: More expensive than a new player, IIUC 02.06.45 # hm 02.06.52 # the stnadard commercial one is like $150 actualy, so yeah 02.06.55 # i thought it was less than that 02.07.04 # wow..is that USD? 02.07.08 # yes 02.07.09 # Its a LOT more here 02.07.16 # ~300 or so. 02.07.16 # there's more than one 02.07.32 # I realise that ;) 02.09.34 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.10.07 # Chipsaru: anyway, if you want it recovered it's possible whoever it is who has our wiggler would be willing to do it if you paid for return postage 02.10.25 # but that's up to them 02.15.32 # umm, I believe petur is still waiting for a repair of his H100 but - not sure at all 02.17.08 # Chipsaru: Basically, put it in a safe place somewhere...and hang on to it for spares :/ 02.17.51 # Or (less likely), hope that one day you run into someone with a wiggler, *and* the knowhow to use it to restore your player. 02.18.11 # Torne: It is a good idea, I found that debugging hardware is too expensive, so I need to find someone with BDM to send my player... 02.18.19 # I'd personally look at it is spare parts, though. 02.18.33 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 02.19.21 # you might find a H3xx with a broken screen/etc. online for a not-too-costly price 02.21.53 Quit Zambezi (Quit: 2weeks idletime.) 02.26.05 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 02.35.05 # Thank you for all this suggestions, I'll try to recover it someday. 02.36.00 # Sorry it happened, but, its a risk you take unfortunately. 02.36.20 # If all goes well, its awesome...if not, well, y'know. 02.48.04 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.50.28 Quit s1gma_ (Quit: irl ragequit) 02.51.27 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.53.20 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 02.54.22 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-90-88.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 02.56.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.57.36 Join maffe [0] (~Miranda@77-20-140-245-dynip.superkabel.de) 02.57.37 Quit maffe (Client Quit) 02.58.26 Join maffe [0] (~Miranda@77-20-140-245-dynip.superkabel.de) 02.59.34 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 03.21.18 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.23.18 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.27.57 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.) 03.37.07 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.16.52 Join steve|m1 [0] (~steve@p4FD43FB8.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.16.52 Quit steve|m (Disconnected by services) 04.17.22 Nick steve|m1 is now known as steve|m (~steve@p4FD43FB8.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.17.45 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.17.48 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.17.48 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.17.50 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.17.52 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.18.07 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.21.49 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.22.00 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.22.30 Quit literal (Quit: leaving) 04.23.37 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 04.25.57 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.49.17 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fdcdf.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.50.09 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.52.03 Join dys` [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f721f16.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.52.07 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.56.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.25 Join madalu [0] (~matt@unaffiliated/madalu) 05.32.16 Quit ps-auxw (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.45.02 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.45.37 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7FCE8.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.47.39 Quit clone4crw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.51.21 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 06.01.39 Quit maffe (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 06.17.54 Join avis [0] (~ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 06.18.45 Quit madalu (Remote host closed the connection) 06.18.48 # i installed rockbox on my e270. the MUSIC folder is not visible from the rockbox interface. banshee however does move things into the MUSIC/ folder though its not accessible through rockbox, only the original sansa firmware 06.20.53 # do you have rockbox set to show "all" files (ie hidden files / directories)? 06.21.05 # or is "MUSIC" a MTP folder, not a UMS folder? 06.23.47 # i'm not sure where i would configure rockbox to show all files 06.23.54 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06.25.13 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 06.25.54 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.27.23 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1350008.2 06.27.33 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@206.183.185.8) 06.28.10 # I don't recall the MTP behavior, but if you're in Sansa's USB mode you need to check the original firmware and make sure it's configured for ums 06.36.44 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.56.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.24.46 Quit CaptainKwel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.33.39 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 07.47.25 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.50.11 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 07.50.26 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.53.33 Quit anewuser () 08.02.46 Join solexx [0] (~jrschulz@e176105028.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.06.30 Quit solexx___ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 08.29.08 Join Chronon [0] (~chronon@c-67-171-217-43.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 08.32.55 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C67B.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.50.58 Quit Chronon (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.56.37 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 08.56.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.57.05 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.58.32 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C67B.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.12.46 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.21.33 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDC93A1.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.25.13 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.36.41 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.37.51 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 09.43.09 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.56.35 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 10.00.02 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 10.00.18 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.00.26 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2DEB1.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.01.04 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.03.02 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.09.12 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.150) 10.09.41 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.09.46 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.22.19 Join kifo [0] (~brendan@71-208-151-31.hlrn.qwest.net) 10.22.40 # Hi. I'm having some trouble getting my ipod nano 1g to boot into rockbox, ive done this a million times before 10.22.59 # i had to restore it tonight, ive done it a good number of times before and its been fine 10.23.31 # ive been triple checking and trying to redo it and such for an hour, getting rockbox on there i mean, and as far as i can tell, the process of just getting the current build and unzipping it isnt working like it always has 10.23.41 # I'm not sure what else to check 10.25.22 # kifo: so how does it fail? 10.25.44 # just doesnt boot into rockbox 10.25.50 # right into the OF 10.26.26 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.26.26 # did you install the bootloader? 10.27.00 # lemme check, i believe so, its in my script but ill check 10.30.09 Quit stoffel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.37.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.38.56 Quit kifo (Quit: Lost terminal) 10.39.15 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.40.02 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.45.32 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C67B.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.56.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.18.24 Join fRee[dOOm] [0] (~fReedOOm]@178-133-30-233.dialup.umc.net.ua) 11.18.39 # Всем привет 11.19.25 # Helo 11.19.32 # Hello 11.20.20 # hi fRee[dOOm] 11.20.41 # 02..::12 bertrik 02::.. hi)) 11.21.02 # <[Saint]> fRee[dOOm]: Plain text only please 11.21.14 # <[Saint]> people need to read these logs with translators 11.21.31 # Я не англичанен) 11.23.04 # Only USA? 11.23.38 # fRee[dOOm]: if you have a question, ask it, otherwise this isnt a social channel 11.23.59 # :-D 11.24.38 # Ипать оралова) 11.25.00 Mode "#rockbox +o JdGordon" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.25.02 # <[Saint]> English only. 11.25.40 # I love rock!!! 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I don't recall seeing a commit to that end, but I've not been paying as much attention as I used to. 13.59.34 # fir3: it doesn't really make sense to first upgrade. The rockbox installation involves patching an original firmware file (to add the rockbox bootloader) and then installing that one 14.02.01 # so i can just go ahead and install rockbox using rbutil? 14.03.42 # or do i need some special steps? especially i would like to have the wikipedia plugin, and of course i don't want to brick the player and void the warranty by opening it ;) 14.04.38 Quit stoffel__ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.06.24 # fir3: the official build doesn't have the wikipedia plugin, so an rbutil install won't give you that. I haven't heard of anyone having issues that required opening a fuze since a *long* time 14.11.58 Quit BeFalou (Quit: leaving) 14.12.59 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.16.32 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.22.26 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.22.43 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 14.23.19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 14.25.37 # can i install it using rbutil and then sperately build and copy over the wikipedia plugin? 14.26.18 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C67B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.26.36 # fir3: generally speaking: no. In some cases: yes. 14.28.54 # what is the safest way to install it with the wikipedia plugin? 14.29.52 # installing means that you need to do two steps: install the bootloader and install the main build. Rockbox Utility will do both for you, but you can also use it to only install the bootloader. 14.30.25 # You can also install both the official bootloader and Rockbox build, then create your own build containing the wikipedia plugin and replacing the installed build with your own one. 14.31.05 # the problem with "just" replacing plugins is that the plugins need to match the build. I.e. you need a wikipedia plugin built for the Fuzev2 for it to work. 14.31.36 # also, the plugin API changes sometimes. If you have a plugin for the Fuzev2 but built against an older plugin API than your build it won't work. 14.32.44 # if you install a current build, then create your own build and only move the wikipedia plugin to the player it should work. 14.33.44 # as building Rockbox should give the same result on your machine as on the build server. Also, a few revisions differences between plugin and main build is usually not a problem, since the plugin API doesn't change that often. 14.36.07 # anyone with a d2 here? 14.36.12 Join ne0_komodo [0] (~funkykomo@125.166.209.16) 14.36.21 # hello 14.37.50 Quit ne0_komodo (Client Quit) 14.38.11 # bluebrother: where can i find instructions how to build rockbox? 14.39.04 # fir3: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SimpleGuideToCompiling 14.42.21 # thx :) 14.54.40 Join bufgix [0] (~Miranda@77-20-140-245-dynip.superkabel.de) 14.56.15 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.56.43 Quit maffe (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.56.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.59.05 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 15.03.13 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 15.03.20 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 15.03.42 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 15.04.48 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.84) 15.05.07 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.05.48 Quit Chipsaru (Quit: Chipsaru) 15.14.46 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.126) 15.16.06 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.18.38 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 15.26.07 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.27.53 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@84.25.7.202) 15.28.20 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.28.44 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.167) 15.41.36 Join Evilnick [0] (~Evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.42.18 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.45.06 # for the log: 191 builds in a row without a problem. I don't know why sysfont.h wasn't generated, maybe some file older/newer as another one after updating from svn 15.47.33 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@inet20909nc-1s.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl) 15.47.37 Quit Evilnick (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.49.02 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 15.49.05 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 15.49.05 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 15.50.54 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.246) 15.52.04 # I saw there was some talk about BDM wiggler: 1) there is very cheap USB DIY wiggler (open hardware) called TurboLight BDM (google for TBLCF). 2) Somewere on the wiki there is schematic + source/hex for ultra cheap BDM hardware meant only to flash rockbox bootloader using BDM. 3) BDM as itself is very good documented - I took me 1 day to develop hardware/software to dump flash image of MPIO. 15.55.22 # S_a_i_n_t, bertrik: 191 builds in a row without a problem. 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(With the iLoader screen for it) 16.40.00 # hmm 16.40.01 # When I reset it AGAIN, the backlight was off. 16.40.10 Join likemindead [0] (~Xmccracke@71.21.16.58) 16.40.21 # ok, so this backlight trouble is actually related to the OFW, not a specific device 16.40.33 # Maybe? 16.40.45 # how much disk space does the sansa (e) toolchain take? 16.41.01 # if it loads the apple firmware autimatically, this probably means you've held the menu button for too long 16.41.06 # After it shut off, and I turned the iPod back on, the backlight was STILL off. 16.41.35 # fir3: at least 60MB 16.41.41 # I was thinking that too, but this is the second time it's happened and I never hold buttons for more than a fraction of a second unless I'm trying to reset it. 16.42.00 # well, you were resetting it before 16.42.14 # Other than to reset it, I mean. 16.42.16 # if you keep pressing menu after a reset for too long, it will boot the ofw 16.42.31 # (for usage consistency with the rockbox bootloader) 16.43.11 # so you're basically saying that the OFW messed up something in the power manager? 16.43.53 # I . . . guess so. I'm just a user, I don't know what all the acronyms are yet. 16.44.22 # OFW = original firmware = apple firmware 16.45.02 # did the backlight work again after booting rockbox once? 16.45.05 # The backlight was still forced off in the emBIOS screen and iLoader, though. And loading up Rockbox again fixed it. 16.45.09 # Yes. 16.45.14 # ok 16.45.27 # the power manager chip retains its state even when powered off, that's a bit nasty 16.45.38 # So, I guess somewhere in the Rockbox code is an easyish fix for iLoader? 16.45.52 # i already have a suspicion what might be going on 16.45.57 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.46.46 # Oh good. It seems to be at least SOMEHOW connected to that annoying Stkov nand panic, I think -- but I'm going to try making it happen one more time and be extra-sure to not hold buttons too long. 16.47.03 # i'm sure it isn't 16.47.08 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.118) 16.47.15 # it is related to booting the apple firmware 16.48.12 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.51.55 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.52.23 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.131) 16.54.37 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 16.54.52 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@ppp-93-104-34-45.dynamic.mnet-online.de) 16.56.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.57.14 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.57.31 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.142) 17.00.01 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.05.45 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.07.32 # I think I figured it out, TheSeven. It's a combination of Rockbox-user-error (hard reset, Rockbox doesn't get to shut down gracefully), emBIOS's response to it (trying to recover files), and a weird iLoader aftermath (if I so much as TOUCH the clickwheel, WITHOUT clicking, it loads the OFW). 17.08.24 # The Stkov nand panics cause the same response by emBIOS. 17.08.42 # So this is a regular ol' tangled fishing line. 17.10.09 # hmm 17.10.26 # Most of this problem is probably better discussed in the #freemyipod channel, but since the panic is a known problem by itself (FS #11433), and triggers the issue with emBIOS and iLoader WITHOUT user screwup . . . 17.11.07 # hm, the stkov isn't directly related to this, this will happen with any unclean shutdown 17.12.05 # someone should deallocate that buffer in fat_rename properly to get rid of the stkov, and we should try to figure out why iloader starts going nuts after a hard reset at #freemyipod 17.12.55 # And why emBIOS gets confused on the backlight whenever the OFW is loaded. 17.18.36 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 17.20.07 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.178) 17.21.46 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.24.18 Part likemindead ("OBEY.") 17.24.32 Quit t0rc (Quit: Leaving) 17.27.26 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-90-88.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 17.31.24 Quit CaptainKwel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.33.15 Quit clone4crw (Quit: leaving) 17.37.33 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 17.37.44 # i did a "git clone" with the repo url on that link http://github.com/tomka/rockbox/tree/wikiviewer , but it didn't download the wikipedia plugin. how can i activate it? 17.48.33 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.221) 17.49.45 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.00.20 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.07.56 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.11.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 18.23.32 Join evilnick [0] (~Evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 18.33.46 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.35.07 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.40) 18.40.55 Quit Guest69382 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.41.30 Join feisar [0] (jljhook@irkki.fi) 18.41.58 Nick feisar is now known as Guest33836 (jljhook@irkki.fi) 18.49.12 # alright, guess "git checkout origin/wikiviewer" made it work :) 18.52.59 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-71-132-81-133.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 18.57.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.00.40 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC56F8D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.04.27 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 19.07.25 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 19.08.17 # does rbutil offer to make a backup of my player? 19.12.47 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.12.55 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 19.13.24 Join McDougal [0] (~asdf@pool-173-48-186-93.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) 19.13.32 # hello 19.13.56 # i am having some problems installing rockbox on my new sansa fuze v2 and i was wondering if you guys could help me out 19.14.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 19.14.58 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 19.14.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.15.40 Join h3po [0] (~h3po@p4FDEA12A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.16.44 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@pool-72-69-207-158.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.16.58 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 19.16.58 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 19.17.53 # my problem is i cannot boot into rockbox, i did a manual installation, everything seemed fine, then when i turned it off and i turned it back on it booted into the OF as if nothing has changed 19.18.30 # Did you install the bootloader? 19.19.59 # yes i installed the bootloader and it seemed to install fine with no errors 19.20.42 # i also updated the OF before installing 19.31.38 # i'm also trying to install it on my new fuze v2 atm.. 19.31.48 # using rbutil 19.32.35 # bootloader and rb is installed, lets see.. 19.32.56 # i just tried to remove the bootloader from the rockbox utility...and i got an error message saying "Rockbox utility cannot uninstall the bootloader on this target. Try a normal firmware update to remove the bootloader." 19.34.35 Join morsem [0] (~morsem@c-98-217-136-57.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) 19.34.37 # hum rockbox neither launches on mine :/ 19.34.39 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.34.56 # i think its a bootloader install problem, because the .rockbox folder is on the device... 19.35.31 # is it ok to ask questions here? 19.35.38 # strange thing is it doesnt give any error messages when installing the bootloader through manual or utility (tried both) 19.36.39 # McDougal: yep 19.36.48 # morsem: sure 19.37.10 # this is really strange...I know this has been done before, I know two people who have successfully rockboxed a fuze v2... 19.37.18 # * gevaerts isn't *too* familiar with the AMS sansa installation procedures... 19.37.45 # As far as I understand it, you have to download an original firmware file and point rbutil to it 19.38.00 # yes i did that, i downloaded it from the sansa forums 19.38.19 Join Tarvis [0] (~Tarvis@97.100.193.48) 19.38.36 # i got it from here (2.3.33) http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/amsfw.html 19.38.43 # Then it finishes saying "Installation log created" 19.38.45 # And did your fuze say something like "updating firmware" when it rebooted? 19.38.52 # no it didn't update firmware 19.39.33 # morsem: yes, if your question has to do with Rockbox just ask 19.39.46 # I have 4'th gen ipod (greyscale) I installed the aug 26 daily build. Works great so far. The question is when it first powers up, to the right of the batter indicator there's a number that lasts a few seconds and then disappears. I can't find it in the manual, what it means 19.40.05 # neither got an update message on mine.. 19.40.17 # maybe thats the problem, it doesnt update the firmware, although i updated it using the sansa firmware update utility to versrion 02.03.33 before i tried installing rockbox for the first time.. 19.40.32 # through MSC mode] 19.40.47 # mine came with 02.03.33A 19.41.24 # i'm not sure what mine came with, i didn't check, but i updated it to version 02.03.33A 19.41.44 # the very first rockbox bootup, it said "-25", the second time it said "-20" 19.42.00 # fir3, it appears that we are both having the exact same problem 19.42.13 # obviously :) 19.42.52 # i really hope this can be fixed, in fact the only reason why i bought my fuze in the first place was to rockbox it 19.43.01 # dito 19.43.24 # It can be fixed. You just need some help from someone who's sufficiently familiar with it 19.44.17 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.44.19 # does anyone know what the number means? 19.44.22 # hopefully there is someone on this channel now that can help....i'd like to get this fixed asap, but just in case i also posted on anythingbutipod too 19.45.05 # morsem: that's the current volume 19.45.13 # McDougal: try manual install, it's different from installation with the rockbox utility 19.45.23 # ok. why does it disappear though? 19.45.36 # the thing is i already tried manually installing, and i still get the same results 19.45.55 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 19.45.58 # morsem: isn't it replaced by an icon? 19.46.03 # yes 19.46.07 # morsem: the status bar shows the volume numerically while it changes, and it goes back to a graphical display after a few seconds. During boot, the volume is set from the config file, so it "changes" 19.46.21 # McDougal: did you get the 'firmware updating' message on disconnect? 19.46.22 # ok. thanks 19.46.41 # no, i have never got a firmware updating message, either through manual or utility install 19.47.08 # btw , you guys did a great job. My ipod never sounded this good. it even makes itunes-store music sound ok 19.47.08 # morsem: you can confiugure this actually, and set it to always numeric, in Settings->Theme Settings->Status/Scrollbar->Volume Display 19.47.13 # then you did something bad, start again and read the instructions 19.47.39 # okay, maybe i should try going into recovery mode and reinstalling the original firmware as well 19.48.07 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuzev2/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.2 19.48.10 # thanks 19.48.37 # how do i manually remove the rb bootloader and installation? 19.48.55 # read the link i gave you 19.49.00 # ok 19.51.36 # the only not so great report I have to make about rockbox is that the ipodpatcher took a few tries (with errors) before it was able to update the bootloader 19.53.04 # the error it gave the first few times was about the ipod having a bad boot block signature 19.53.35 # i know this is slightly off topic, but does anybody know how to get into recovery mode for a fuze v2? 19.53.56 # anyways, thanks all. keep up the great job 19.54.05 # McDougal: is your fuze broken? 19.54.16 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS has all the details 19.54.31 # thanks, and no my fuze isn't broken, i just got it today 19.55.26 Part morsem ("Leaving") 19.55.27 # then what are you trying to "recover" ? recovery mode is only to be used in extreme cases 19.55.41 # Llorean: no, i've not gone through and worked out if there's a reason not to yet. or just done it. :) 19.56.47 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.59.05 # Gotcha 20.02.38 # alright i get the fw upgrade msg now 20.02.57 # woohoo it works :D 20.05.26 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 20.06.00 # McDougal: i followed the instructions by funman, works fine now 20.08.59 # okay, i attempted to manually install the bootloader, but when i type in mkamsboot.exe fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.sansa patched.bin" 20.09.01 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.09.11 Join Chronon [0] (~chronon@c-67-171-217-43.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 20.09.12 # oops i wasnt supposed to do that yet 20.09.55 # when i typed in "mkamsboot.exe fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.sansa patched.bin" it gives me an error saying that it cannot open bootloader-fuze.sansa for reading 20.10.29 # you're reading the wrong instructions 20.10.39 # * fir3 stops playing snake 20.10.41 # this line is for fuzev1, you said you had a fuzev2 20.11.02 # wait a sec 20.13.05 # okay i will try it all over again reading the right instructions 20.13.34 # McDougal: i can send you my patched fuzpa.bin if you want 20.13.43 # okay, thanks 20.16.51 # McDougal: might take some time my upload is quite slow :/ 20.16.59 # okay 20.18.07 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C67B.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.19.42 # McDougal: these are the commands i used http://pastebin.com/05ccR6V9 20.20.36 # thanks, ill give it a try 20.21.25 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.22.28 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.69) 20.26.14 # fir3, those instructions are for linux, and i do not have linux. i use windows 7 64-bit, and i am confused on how to manually install the rockbox bootloader 20.29.06 # once you have a patched fuzpa.bin file, the bootloader installation is basically just a matter of copying it to the root directory of the fuze in MSC mode 20.30.22 # installing the rockbox main binary can then be done with rbutil, or simply by extracting the rockbox.zip file onto the root directory of the fuze in MSC mode 20.30.45 # the thing is i cant seem to patch it, i run "mkamsboot.exe fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.sansa patched.bin" in cmd and it gives me an error saying it could not open for reading 20.31.07 # i already have the .rockbox folder on my device 20.31.10 # McDougal: why don't you read what i write? 20.31.16 # 20:10 < funman> this line is for fuzev1, you said you had a fuzev2 20.32.42 # yes, when i type in "./mkamsboot fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.sansa output.bin" it says "." is not a command 20.33.14 # McDougal: ok then read the instructions one more time, and this time make sure you read all the text 20.33.26 # you managed to use the instructions for the wrong player, on the wrong operating system 20.33.38 # McDougal: omit the ./ 20.34.09 # McDougal: mkamsboot.exe fuzpa.bin bootloader-fuzev2.sansa patched.bin 20.34.13 # okay 20.36.25 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.36.35 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.36.42 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 20.36.59 # thanks for the help, i typed in those commands and it worked, i was just typing in the wrong commands lolz :D 20.37.52 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.183) 20.41.29 # any thoughts on moving the html version of the GPL used in Rockbox Utility to /docs? 20.42.16 # pixelma: ondios have FM, and no hold button. but you can't use softhold in the FM screen, right? 20.43.36 # OndioFMs yes... there indeed is no soft hold in the radio screen but I never missed it although I use it in the WPS 20.44.40 # if I imagine correctly, the same button combo could work in the radio screen 20.45.27 Quit McDougal (Quit: Leaving) 20.45.30 Quit Galois (Remote host closed the connection) 20.45.47 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 20.48.38 # if i read correctly it's just a matter of calling get_action with ALLOW_SOFTLOCK 20.50.15 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r27996): Remove duplicated license file. ... 20.51.38 # funman: don't you need to add an action to the fm screen context too? 20.51.54 # or something similar 20.52.08 # r27996 build result: All green 20.52.39 # hm right it's in WPS context, and the WPS context isn't using another context 20.53.23 Join freddyb [0] (~chatzilla@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 20.53.43 # the wikipedia plugin seems to work fine except that i cant scroll down articles (or dont know how) 20.54.21 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.54.30 # ah got it :) 20.56.31 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 20.56.40 Quit Strife89DS (Quit: Heading home.) 20.57.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.57.34 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 20.59.25 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.17) 20.59.31 # neat.. :D 21.01.36 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.07.47 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.11.23 # in case someone needs a fuze v2 firmware with the wikipedia plugin: http://www.mediafire.com/?x4fwc159id0y0o7 21.13.29 # wrong link, that's it http://www.mediafire.com/?k4ord8acefc2but 21.18.16 Join ScorchedIcee [0] (ScorchedIc@CPE001d7e6ba8cb-CM000a739a8c13.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.18.51 # Hey, anything going on for the 160gb classic ipod?... really want to hotbox my 160gb... 21.19.19 # rockbox** 21.21.23 # o_O 21.22.23 # odd typo there.... but ya, just rockboxed my old 4thgen 20gb 21.22.23 # The direct answer, ScorchedIcee, is that nobody seems all too interested in porting to the iPod 6G. It would be a hard port and there's been little (if any) direct work towards the goal. 21.22.45 # well.... what work would need to be done? :) 21.24.00 # start here, ScorchedIcee: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=19622.0 21.24.18 # what can i do when rockbox freezes on my fuze v2 ? 21.24.36 # I read that whole thread... :/ 21.24.38 # fir3: tell us how it froze, and keep pressing the power button to turn it off 21.24.40 # fir3: try to reset 21.25.23 # ah now it turned off had to hold a little longer :) 21.25.32 # ScorchedIcee, then I don't understand your question. That thread, and the links which flow out from it are about the entirety of Rockbox's relationship with the iPod 6G. 21.25.46 # funman: i was opening a jpg image 21.26.05 # @soap: erm... maybe I missed a post hold on :S 21.26.57 # now i didn't play music and it opened 21.28.44 # correction: a png image :) 21.28.48 # @soap: has bruteforcing been tried? 21.29.42 # rockbox is great, thanks a lot :D 21.29.52 # ScorchedIcee, I'm getting the impression you haven't actually read the thread and the links in the thread. 21.30.23 # I don't understand a lot of it... but I have read it :) 21.30.32 # cya 21.30.35 Quit fir3 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.31.00 # I get that encryption is preventing the build... right? 21.32.14 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 21.34.38 # ScorchedIcee: we don't know, don't ask us 21.36.51 # @funman: could you point me to somewhere where people would know? please? 21.36.56 # http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Main_Page 21.39.08 # ty 21.42.10 # http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57411 <- someone working on clip keymap, nice 21.43.12 Join Misanthropos_ [0] (~Misanthro@dsl-38-12.telebyte.com) 21.46.21 Join Gatz851 [0] (~add9ec48@giant.haxx.se) 21.46.25 # As far as I am aware, there is an exploit for the classic (or some generations of it). 21.46.42 # yes, code has been executed on it. 21.46.52 # Someone *just* needs to do all the reverse engineering/programming etc. 21.46.53 # hey yall 21.47.52 # Hey i wondering about how would go about replace the usb dirver with a port of ps3groove 21.48.29 # Gatz85, is that the PS3 hack? 21.48.40 # yes 21.48.46 # This has been discussed - see the logs for the last couple of days 21.48.57 # This was discussed quite a bit yesterday (or perhaps the day before), check the IRC logs on rockbox.org 21.49.00 # In short, throw out the Rockbox stack and start again IR 21.49.05 # i know asked earlyer 21.49.06 # *IIRC 21.49.22 # Nothing has changed :) 21.49.30 # was there not also an issue with emulating the behavior of a hub? 21.50.03 # nnot sure was really early when i ask nand i walked away 21.51.56 # this channel is logged, so as AlexP said it's all in there. 21.52.04 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.52.55 # thanks 21.52.55 # k thanks 21.59.53 Quit Misanthropos_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.59.55 Quit Gatz851 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.02.11 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@70.44.12.90.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 22.07.18 Quit froggyman (Quit: Bye) 22.07.18 # * Dhraakellian saw an n900 reference in the commit log from a couple days ago 22.07.38 # * Dhraakellian somehow guesses that it's not related to RaaA 22.08.44 # it's not 22.09.13 # that ever so brief moment of hope while skimming, though... 22.11.56 Join likemindead [0] (~Xmccracke@71.21.16.58) 22.13.35 # My Gigabeat MES60V just arrived. :D 22.13.58 # Any tips for installing Rockbox on this device? 22.25.37 # Read the manual 22.28.58 Quit h3po (Quit: Leaving.) 22.31.33 Quit Dhraakellian (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.37.56 # do all the sound settings affect the Line Out? 22.37.59 # (of an ipod) 22.38.42 # most do, yes 22.38.59 # not sure if the tone controls (bass/treble) do or not 22.39.09 # and volume doesn't, obviously 22.39.15 # ya, figured that one... 22.39.20 # but everything else is a software dsp effet 22.40.08 # to be honest, I kind of wish there was a seperate volume for the line out, like a gain for it... 22.40.39 # use the EQ precut 22.41.16 # But, really, the point of a line-out is to be...at line-level. 22.41.52 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 22.42.18 # Would increasing the line out amplification be hazardous to a cars stereo system? 22.42.25 # (within reason) 22.42.44 # er, it's already at line level; that's as high as it goes without distorting 22.42.47 # Likely not. Would likely cause audible distortion, though.' 22.43.00 # line out is at 0dB 22.43.55 # well ok that's true by definition 22.44.02 # i mean line out is at the level that headphone out is when volume is set to 0db 22.44.30 # precut only is -xdb? 22.44.38 # yes, hence "cut" 22.44.48 Quit freddyb (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.44.50 # ... sorry somewhat new to this stuff :) 22.44.57 # it's intended to create headroom to boost specific bands via the equaliser 22.45.26 # anyway, the answer is no, you can't really make line out louder without introducing audible distortion 22.45.32 # how are you connecting it to the car stereo? 22.45.35 # Oh, there's no positive gain available there? 22.45.44 # How about in the ReplayGain preamp stage? 22.46.04 # soap: i think thats negative only as well, no? 22.46.14 # using a monster one... transmits on a radio station... really wish I a direct connection... 22.46.25 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.46.29 # can't you just turn the volume up on the car stereo? 22.47.08 # yes I can... but when it comes to my brothers car which has a garbage sound system, I can't get the volume loud enough :( 22.47.46 # well, most music these days has no headroom, so any positive gain will make it clip or distort 22.48.20 # at least on the loud parts, but lots of things also have no dynamic range any more so for those it would do it throughout ;) 22.49.02 # mc2739: the last patch on FS#11597 only gives you 30 minutes more runtime? 22.49.05 # See I just want to suck the best sound quality out of this thing... 22.49.41 # well, nothing you do to increase the gain is going to increase the sound quality, i'm afraid 22.49.45 # that's impossible ;) 22.49.45 # the DAP, ScorchedIcee, is already giving you the best you're going to get w/o changing a different part of the hardware chain. 22.50.12 # so consider the best sound quality successfully squeezed. 22.50.23 # so yeah, either the car stereo in question is *really* sucky, or the FM transmitter thing is reducing the volume noticablly 22.50.46 # well with my dads car I can *almost* make my ears bleed :/ 22.51.15 # then probably that stereo just sucks and doesn't handle the fm input very nicely :) 22.51.25 # is it louder if you play a cd? :) 22.52.28 # If it makes your ears bleed, why do you want it even louder? 22.52.50 # I want it louder in my brothers civic 03 with garbage stock sound system :P 22.53.27 # not in my dads car ^^ 22.53.39 Join Dhraakellian [0] (~ntryon@cpe-67-240-248-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 22.54.37 Quit petur (Quit: dada from the middle of nowhere in the Ardennen) 22.55.20 # If it wasn't for my 160gb ipods insane capacity, I would be getting something like a Cowon J3 22.56.13 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.57.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.58.47 # funman, is there a patch in fs #11597 that has essentially the same frequencies for PCLK/FCLK but with the different mechanism? 22.59.19 # the v3 patch, right? 22.59.33 # right, but FCLK is unused when unboosted 22.59.55 # so the v4 uses the lowest frequency possible (24MHz * 5 / 8 / 15) 23.00.05 # and the patch i'm testing use 0 MHz by using PLLB as a source 23.01.23 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) 23.04.57 # s/15/16/ 23.21.40 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.30.40 Quit balintx_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.31.00 # Anyone know the normal battery capacity for a gigabeat S60 ? 23.31.49 # yes, rockbox does 23.32.01 # did you change the setting and now want to change it back? 23.32.12 # if so just bring up the context menu on the setting and hit reset to default :) 23.32.51 # No, I left it at the default. Was wondering if I should change it. Thanks. 23.33.05 # * likemindead <3's Rockbox sooo much. :d 23.35.44 # right. no, you shouldn't change it unless you replaced the battery 23.36.35 # Cool. Can I delete the non-Rockbox files and folders? I don't care to dual boot. Does Rockbox need the old Toshiba files? 23.36.48 # MediaLibrary.edb etc. 23.36.55 # maybe 23.36.58 # :) 23.37.09 # There's one called drmstore.dat that I really don't like seeing. ;-) 23.37.13 # On the big partition you can get rid of them 23.37.18 # Sweet. 23.37.34 # I'll save them somewhere, just in case. 23.37.42 # a good idea 23.40.05 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.53.08 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.57.40 Quit Tarvis (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.57.41 Join Tarvis_ [0] (~Tarvis@48.193.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com)