--- Log for 16.09.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 2 days ago 00.00.32 Quit edboyer93 () 00.03.44 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.06.42 Join edboyer93 [0] (eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 00.10.42 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 00.22.19 Quit mroth (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.24.07 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.28.49 Quit Gabe_G23 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.33.25 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 00.35.44 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.38.35 Join Gabe_G23 [0] (~gabe@bzflag/player/GabrielG) 00.42.31 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@c-71-194-135-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.47.01 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fe7e0.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.50.13 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.55.33 Quit ender` (Quit: The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea.) 01.02.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.17 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.08.55 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 01.23.13 Part toffe82_ 01.26.14 Quit _s1gma (Quit: Leaving) 01.26.50 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.33.39 Join giovanni [0] (~giovanni@93.37.240.186) 01.36.57 Join Adubbb [0] (~Aldubuc@67.201.160.156) 01.37.31 Part giovanni 01.38.42 Join giovanni [0] (~giovanni@93.37.240.186) 01.40.11 Part giovanni 01.52.34 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 02.02.20 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 02.02.20 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 02.02.20 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.04.22 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.06.33 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@24-148-89-52.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 02.07.22 Join Chronon [0] (~chronon@c-67-171-217-43.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 02.08.05 # AlexP: bugger! I actually thought/hoped/(preyed) that crash was fixed... 02.08.22 # if I get time I'll take an axe to that code and fix it good and proper 02.08.30 # (for hacky definitions of proper) 02.13.42 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.17.36 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.20.22 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.38.11 Quit Adubbb () 02.40.18 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.47.33 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.47.39 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-75-45-240-233.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 02.47.39 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 02.47.39 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.57.17 # there's a way to make logf display current time or ticks, right? i saw it somewhere... 03.02.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.28 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048100086.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.06.01 Quit Chronon (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.07.20 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.13.00 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 03.16.13 # ehm anyways. how can i get accurate ms time? 03.21.29 # current_tick is really the closest you can get... the time from the rtc is 1s resolution isnt it? 03.24.28 # about rtc: yes 03.25.07 # i couldn't really tell if current_tick was more accurate or just some timer the kernel updated when it felt like (although that would be counter-intuitive :p) 03.26.41 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-217-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.29.25 Quit hebz0rl_ (Client Quit) 03.29.52 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.35.50 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 03.41.08 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 03.47.04 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590ffc5c.pool.mediaWays.net) 03.47.10 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-70-131-50-229.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 03.49.25 Join ToHellWithGA [0] (~ryan@unaffiliated/tohellwithga) 03.49.55 # i did not see on the iPod FAQ if support for peripherals was possible 03.50.23 # i would like to use the dock and remote i own to control my 5.5G iPod with rockbox 03.52.13 # some work 03.54.45 # i guess i cannot know until i try :) 03.56.31 Join milz [0] (~kyle@d142-59-221-36.abhsia.telus.net) 04.00.16 # so is there any resolution assigned to the current_tick value? 04.00.32 # it only increases by one in the period i'm interested in 04.00.47 # which covers a few logf()s, so it must be pretty long 04.01.48 Quit binaryhermit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.02.12 Join binaryhermit [0] (~binaryher@adsl-70-131-50-229.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 04.02.38 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.02.38 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.02.40 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.02.41 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.02.56 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.03.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.07.15 Join mroth- [0] (~gopp@ool-44c07f7c.dyn.optonline.net) 04.24.41 Quit mroth- (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.25.00 Join dr_kludge [0] (~kludge@pool-72-92-152-47.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) 04.29.01 Join mroth- [0] (~gopp@ool-44c07f7c.dyn.optonline.net) 04.29.23 # is the fuze v2 suppose to have USB stack enabled on current SVN? 04.31.45 Join Flash10 [0] (~4a246f0a@giant.haxx.se) 04.32.35 # Whats the link to be voiced here? 04.33.48 # why do you think you need to be voiced? 04.33.50 # anyone know what "Undefined instruction at 0002B02C (0)" is trying to tell me with rb 3.4 running on an ipod 3g? 04.34.12 # no, but you really shold be on at least 3.6 04.34.12 Quit Flash10 (Client Quit) 04.34.42 Join NickHansonNet [0] (~4a246f0a@giant.haxx.se) 04.34.54 Part ToHellWithGA 04.34.55 Join panni__ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 04.35.07 # JdGordon|: tried it after 3.4 started falling down. after install, it reboots, flashes the rb usb logo, then reboots into apple disk mode. 04.35.39 # try to reinstall it 04.35.45 # Rockbox) 04.36.05 # did. 04.36.15 # Restore it with iTunes? 04.36.19 # yep. 04.36.27 # i only hit irc when i'm fresh out of ideas ;) 04.36.36 # Whats the error code? 04.37.05 # "Undefined instruction at 0002B02C (0)" 04.37.30 # btw did you reinstall the boot loader 04.37.55 # i think i did. 04.38.04 # but i'll try again. nothing to lose at this point. 04.38.05 # whats the ipod model? 04.38.09 # 3g 04.38.12 # it was a freebie. 04.38.20 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.38.31 # nano? 04.38.54 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.39.06 Quit panni__ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.39.45 # nah. straight-up, old-school 3g. 04.40.44 # dr_kludge, try to submit your error code herehttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 04.41.06 # I have to go 04.41.24 # no dont do that 04.41.30 # ? 04.41.33 # that number is totally useless on such an old build 04.42.08 Quit NickHansonNet (Quit: might be back someday... never know) 04.43.15 # JdGordon|: any suggestions? 04.45.17 # reinstall the bootloader, reinstall the full rockbox.zip 04.47.28 # is a restore necessary to clean house first? 04.48.10 # it might help 04.49.02 # done and done. 04.49.08 # same result. 04.50.23 # hmmm... wait a second. lemme try that with the new ipodpatcher. 04.50.34 # * dr_kludge grumbles at itself 04.53.23 # ...and i get the same shit as before. 04.56.39 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 04.56.57 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (~tchan@c-69-243-144-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.57.06 Quit tchan (Changing host) 04.57.06 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 05.02.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.11.25 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) 05.11.40 Quit bunnyboi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.17.21 Quit edboyer93 () 05.24.33 Join Eson_38 [0] (~nolosabra@200.108.108.67) 05.25.20 # someone can helpme i have iriver h340 and i want to install rockbox 05.25.33 # if someone can talk in spanish will be great 05.25.36 # gracias 05.26.38 # Eson_38: use the installer? 05.26.52 # la installador... 05.27.15 # i tried, but say that i need the original firmware to can change it 05.27.42 # but this one come with the version 2.4 05.28.07 # i guess the originas it's ver 1.04 05.32.10 # the instructions shuold tell you where to get the origional firmawre file 05.32.18 # the version doesnt really matter 05.33.29 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.33.29 # well, if the version doesnt matter i will try one more time, i hope this time can do it 05.34.59 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.35.05 Part Eson_38 05.45.52 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7ED2B.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.02.16 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 06.02.48 # can anyone tell me why rockbox running on an ipod 3g (old-school, not nano) would think it's connected to usb when it most definitely is not? 06.02.58 # (versions 3.5.1 and 3.6) 06.03.27 # dr_kludge: does it happen with a current build? 06.03.38 # errr... other than 3.6? 06.04.19 # 3.6 is the last release, current builds are built with the last source code available (changes everyday), look at the top left of the website 06.04.33 # AlexP: hmm, your crash is a new one! I need to investigate properly but I dont have any idea why it should crash there, at that point the sbs has loaded (either yours or the fallback one) 06.05.24 # funman: i c. let's try. gimme a minute. 06.06.46 # funman: yes. until this morning, it was happily running 3.4. then i tried turning it on after the battery died and 3.4 threw "Undefined instruction at 0002B02C (0)" at me. 06.07.01 # so i tried upgrading. 06.07.25 # \ 06.08.33 # so, yeah, current build, same behavior. 06.09.05 # does it happen in the OF? 06.10.26 # krazykit: nope. the apple fw seems to work just fine. i haven't tried loading any music on it, but it boots cleanly and the menus work. 06.12.01 # i know charging on ipod is special but don't know the details; you might wait until Torne is here, he's the ipod expert 06.12.37 # hrm. i gotta be off to bed, but i'll check in another time. thanks! 06.12.41 Part dr_kludge ("WeeChat 0.3.3") 06.19.33 Quit anewuser () 06.28.56 Quit binaryhermit (Quit: Leaving) 06.32.45 Quit krazykit (Quit: awe yeeeeeee) 06.37.10 Join Gatz85 [0] (~gatz@173.217.236.72) 06.38.18 # shuffle2, hey i wanted to let you know thank you for that patch i think i might be able to get it to work and i start git-hub just for thank you again 06.47.02 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f52b0.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.55.32 # btw did doom fans on fuzev1 try a thumb build to see if it reduces memory use? 07.02.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.13.39 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.15.09 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 07.17.39 Join panni__ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 07.20.36 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.23.31 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 07.35.46 # n1s: please take a look at FS#11608 07.37.20 Join Maggux [0] (~quassel@krlh-4d0205b1.pool.mediaWays.net) 07.42.19 Quit z35 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.46.19 Quit panni__ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 07.46.27 # New commit by 03funman (r28092): usb_drv_reset() is only used in usb-drv-arc.c ... 07.46.41 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 07.47.13 Quit mroth- (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.49.14 # r28092 build result: All green 07.54.24 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 07.54.38 # what's going on with mpiohd? 07.54.43 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-18bdaed1.dyn.optonline.net) 07.56.05 # looks like builds.pm wasnt updated 07.56.12 # (I tinhk that is the filename) 07.56.41 # umm... 07.57.04 # i just checked and it looks ok 07.57.30 # yeah, I just saw that diff... not sure.. wait for Zagor i guess 07.58.01 # www/buildserver/builds looks ok too 07.58.37 # does that file get updated on the server automagically thoguh? 08.04.06 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@190.78.17.89) 08.04.06 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 08.04.07 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 08.12.46 Quit solexx (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.14.10 Join solexx [0] (~jrschulz@e176108123.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.25.24 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.25.25 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 08.28.08 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 08.37.11 Join rfid3 [0] (~44e02d9c@giant.haxx.se) 08.37.26 # Hi. 08.38.10 # I was wondering if there is a patch or something similar that will allow my iPod running Rockbox to NOT show the USB cable icon and stop playback when connected to USB? 08.38.48 # I know holding the menu button down does what I want, but it would be nice to have an option that kept it playing 08.38.56 # it = the music 08.41.10 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.42.18 # nope, not yet anyway 08.43.43 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 08.44.28 # rfid3: you can't at the same time have usb access and music playback 08.44.35 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.44.42 # wodz, I only want it to charge 08.45.32 # ok, but this is why pluging usb stops playback 08.46.13 # it's because the ciggarette lighter connections in my car are lame and short out at times (bumps, some turns, etc), making the iPod stop playback and display the USB icon 08.46.20 # there have been a few attempted patches at making the usb connection behaviour configurable, but bassiclly noone has come up with a good way to do it that everyone can accept 08.46.21 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 08.47.09 # TheSeven, you really need MD5 hashes on your website for the iLoader, etc. downloads 08.47.45 Quit Maggux (Remote host closed the connection) 08.47.46 # just fyi :) lol 08.49.27 # TheSeven, I say this because I attempted to update from 1.x to 2.2 and the update process froze at about halfway through removing the iPod firmware partition. 08.49.47 # I left it for 2 hours... nothing happened. 08.50.00 # that wouldn't have been prevented by an md5 hash 08.50.11 # it means that your ipod apparently had file system corruption 08.50.17 # (a directory loop or something) 08.50.17 # ahh 08.50.47 # well I updated, so does that mean it's fixed? 08.50.59 # at least apparently something made it lock up while attempting to resize the fat32 partition, which consists mostly of changing directory entries 08.51.03 # after upgrade from (x)ubuntu 8.04LTS -> 10.04LTS usb handling on my thinkpad is screwed up to the point that I am not able to do any serious rockbox development as I am unable to test my changes on targets :/ 08.51.21 # if it froze during the repartitioning process, your fat32 partition is probably damaged now 08.51.34 # lol but it's just a partiton 08.51.37 # but i think iloader-related things should better be discussed at #freemyipod 08.51.51 # and honestly i don't really have time to deal with that right now 08.52.05 # let's figure this out later today 08.52.25 # bleh alright. I'll see how it goes, and if it seems to be having problems I'll drop by #freemyipod 08.52.28 # wodz: ouch! 08.52.44 # Thanks for iLoader though, TheSeven :) 08.52.51 # great work 08.56.32 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.57.50 Quit rfid3 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 09.00.34 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.02.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.03.31 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.03.31 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.04.07 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@p54A0DD18.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.04.07 Quit TheSeven (Changing host) 09.04.07 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 09.05.21 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 09.13.19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.15.05 # JdGordon|: Always glad to find a new way to break things :) 09.15.10 # Cheers for looking at it 09.15.47 # It may well be my sbs of course (although it worked with a version a few weeks ago), but still Rockbox should reject it not freeze if that is the case I susppose :) 09.15.52 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE3D72.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.19.50 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.21.33 # AlexP: I'm of the general opinion that even if things break, they shouldnt burn the house down :p 09.21.42 # i.e it shouldnt be crashing even if you really messed up the sbs 09.22.01 # yeah, exactly :) 09.22.45 # although it did lead to some awesome displays when the sbs doesnt load and the wps backdrop is partially displayed 09.23.48 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.38.50 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 09.40.51 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 09.50.16 Quit lestatar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.53.23 Quit anewuser () 09.55.11 # funman: unfortunately the 3g is the funky one we don't know how to manage properly - it doesn't charge from usb and we don't implement usb on it either 09.56.07 # Zagor: editing commit logs isnt possible atm 09.56.45 # ok. the hook appears to allow it. 09.59.27 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@p4FF2D545.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.01.05 # % svn pe svn:log --revprop -r 28078 svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk 10.01.05 # svn: Repository has not been enabled to accept revision propchanges; 10.01.05 # ask the administrator to create a pre-revprop-change hook 10.02.20 # oh, silly me. only the hook template exists. 10.03.08 # try now 10.03.27 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.04.28 # Set new value for property 'svn:log' on revision 28078 10.05.01 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=28078 <- it's the new msg 10.05.02 # thanks! 10.05.21 # :< 10.05.27 # I'll set up a mail trigger for that too, so we have traces 10.05.44 # funman: it wasnt a typo anyway 10.05.45 # good idea, will that need changes to buildsystem too? 10.05.51 # it was a copy/paste snafu 10.05.54 # JdGordon|: ah sorry. feel free to edit ;) 10.06.30 # funman: no, log changes doesn't trigger new builds 10.06.31 # btw, git isn't updated, perhaps it's possible to use some magic commands to do that 10.07.23 # good question. git rebase doesn't seem to do anything. 10.07.52 # well, it has no way of knowing, the commit is old 10.08.03 # you probably have to throw away the history and pull again :) 10.08.24 # yeah right, history is only stored on the server so svn checkouts don't need update either 10.11.25 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 10.12.03 # Zagor: something is still wrong with hd200 build - maybe some file needs to be updated on www 10.12.52 # wodz: what's going on with Ubuntu 10.4 usb? 10.13.28 # wodz: hmm, checking 10.16.38 # 1) For most of the time mpio hd200 doesn't even trigger usb plug event - not even single line in dmesg. If it is detected it mostly works ok. I can't see the pattern when it is detected. It doesn't matter if I use OF or rb bootloader or rb itself. 2) My ipod mini is detected ok but I am unable to transfer files to it. Sometimes it transfer 1-2 files ok and transfer freeze. After couple of minutes I have timeout/resets lines in dmesg. I checked t 10.16.38 # his devices on other machines and both work ok. 10.17.13 # as with mpio it doesn't matter if I use rb or apple emergency disk mode 10.17.27 # did you try to force full speed? (rmmod ehci_hcd maybe) 10.18.06 # it seems that ubuntu decided to build ehci stright into kernel 10.18.41 # ah right, same here 10.18.58 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 10.19.01 # I tried recent fedora live cd and symptoms are the same - so I suspect there were some changes to usb handling in recent kernels 10.19.28 # What kernel version is that? 10.19.45 # 2.6.32 presumably 10.20.03 # I've been running 2.6.32 here for ages 10.20.16 # 3) using build in SD reader exibits similar behaviour - card is either not detected or transfers fail at various stages 10.20.19 # 2.6.32-25-generic 10.20.28 # 2.6.35 (ubuntu 10.10) also has CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y (not m) 10.21.16 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 10.21.16 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 10.21.16 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.22.24 # ohh I got new state - waiting long enough I *got* something in dmesg - hub_port_status failed (err = -32) 10.23.03 # i got that when playing with (buggy) usb for amsv2. the solution is rmmod ehci_hcd; modprobe ehci_hcd :/ 10.23.40 # the problem is uncommon as google do not throw 1000000000 pages about usb problems on r61 or ubuntu 10.04 10.23.42 # I used to get that alot also 10.25.12 Quit JdGordon| (Client Quit) 10.25.31 # usb camera, 2 of my pendrives, toshiba external HDD all work ok 10.28.10 # the only thing I can think about is that since I had some problems with booting from pendrive I updated bios (as description of update states that this solves problem with usb booting). But I don't know if this was before or after ubuntu upgrade 10.28.53 # maybe try debian testing kernel 10.29.37 # this is what I get If I wait long enough http://www.pastie.org/1162355 10.31.04 # * funman has a strong déjà vu 10.31.06 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@pa58-109-141-184.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 10.31.23 # i see this if clipv2 PHY clock is set incorrectly 10.32.11 # mpio have hardware usb-ide bridge - the chip is know to work on linux (but with some quirks) 10.32.50 # to me it looks like usb controller is entering some powersaving state or something 10.33.28 # the problem is that machine stops booting with acpi=off so I can't check this hypothesis 10.40.28 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 10.40.43 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.41.35 # git probably won't see the new commit message even with a new clone. IIUC the new message is stored in the revprops, unlike the original message. and git-svn doesn't really supprt rev props 10.42.49 Quit Gatz85 (Quit: Gatz85) 10.43.14 # We should move to gut then! 10.43.23 # Git 10.43.50 Quit tmzt_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.45.21 Join tmzt [0] (~tmzt@adsl-99-164-120-147.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) 10.46.58 # i should have made this politcal promise for rsb vote: "I will get us rid of subversion!!" 10.47.18 # heh, we have campaigning now? :) 10.49.10 # * JdGord gives all 5 votes to funman 10.49.43 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 10.51.04 # funman: do You experience high load from events/0,1 kernel proceses also? 10.51.46 # wodz: nope, this laptop is running Debian btw (i have ubuntu 10.10 on desktop but it seems to work fine here) 10.54.19 # I am really out of ideas :/ 10.55.22 # Torne: We do implement usb detection on G3 though, in order to reboot into the OF 10.57.00 # funman: Does the nano G2 usb code not differentiate between usb charger and actual host? 10.57.13 # (re rfid3's problem) 10.58.16 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.58.55 # did pamaury post a patch for USB audio on flyspray? i can't find it 10.59.10 # fs#11108 11.02.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.06.37 # There ware some talk about including png in core - was there any consensus? 11.06.49 # s/png/png support/ 11.16.47 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 11.20.46 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.30.55 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.31.20 Join webguest496 [0] (~4e7215e6@giant.haxx.se) 11.32.47 Quit webguest496 (Client Quit) 11.37.08 Quit funman (Quit: Lost terminal) 11.54.05 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 12.03.53 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.11.57 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-119-86.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.23.20 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.30.04 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.32.26 # hm, does somebody know an gameboy-emulator which can handle the savefiles from gnu-/rockboy and can emulate a gamelink between two instances or so? 12.39.04 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 12.47.50 # Stummi, there has been recent talk about just such a thing on the forums. Not being a GameBoy player myself, however, the details escape me. 12.47.57 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-217-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.51.33 # soap, hm, i can find some rockboy-topics with search, bot no one, that realy fits to my question. Do you have a link for me? 12.52.26 # ah, found something now 12.52.47 # Nope, but the concept of copying rockboy games to a PC-side emulator (for "cheating") and then back was discussed VERY recently. 12.53.28 # yes, that was what i found now 12.54.18 # so, my dream of becoming pokemon master is not destroyed yet :) 12.58.21 # btw, i hacked a playback-control into the menu of rockboy now. It works fine for me for volume control, but i can crash the game by trying to play a song over this menu (sansa fuze v2 has not enought RAM for both, rockboy and playing.) 12.59.11 # I hoped using a standalone volume-control instead is as easy as with the playback-control, but that dont seems so. (And my C skills are not very good) 13.01.00 # you mean controlling the ingame sound's volume? 13.01.08 # yes 13.01.41 Join wodz [0] (~5f303f8a@giant.haxx.se) 13.02.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.05.07 # Torne: (for logs) I hit ipod startup issue with r2807 and with some slightly earlier version a few times recently (mini 1G). I haven't seen this problem for ages. 13.06.02 # wodz: your revision number is missing a digit (just for accuracy) 13.08.00 # yeh : r28072 13.23.03 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13.27.51 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.34.32 Part LinusN 13.37.09 # wodz: yes, it's not fixed 13.37.18 # wodz: but there's nothing else I can do, really... 13.39.34 # there's the two optoins for a fix: one of them doesn't work on every device, and one of them doesn't work on every device *and* causes weird cosmetic issues on shutdown *and* causes some people's devices to spontaneously wake up for no reason 13.39.34 # unless someone works out a third thing to do, there's nothing we can really do about it 13.39.34 # the point is that while it is not fixed I haven't seen this for very long and now, after upgrade I hit it 4 times within 3 days 13.39.34 # right, but there's no way i can draw a useful conclusion from that 13.39.34 DBUG Enqueued KICK Torne 13.39.34 # it's, probably, something about the state of ram, and/or the state of some other mystery things :) 13.39.35 # and i'm explicitly clearing most of the iram on shutdown.. 13.39.42 Part Zagor 13.39.52 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.39.54 # so, i don't think we can narrow this down by any method other than painstaking reversing of the boot code.. 13.40.03 # which i did for a while but man is that stuff boring 13.40.05 # :) 13.40.12 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 13.41.03 # soo yeah, not only do i not know how to fix it i don't really know how to work out how to fix it either :) 13.41.48 # you mean disasembly of apple boot code? 13.41.55 # yes 13.42.12 # the main problem is lack of documentation imo\ 13.42.25 # how big is bootcode? 13.42.25 # i've been disassembling the latest boot code for the ipod video somewhat, but haven't found out anything useful yet 13.42.29 # Pretty big 13.42.37 # 30kb or so 13.42.41 # lemme check 13.42.50 # and there are, of course, 30+ versions of it 13.42.54 # comparable to our bootloader 13.42.58 # since there's two or three or four versions for *every model* 13.43.05 # and maybe not all of them are broken in the same way 13.43.14 # which would explain why some people see it more than others, or not at all 13.43.22 # and why the workarounds work for some people and not others 13.43.45 # it's also full of dead code and support for hardware that doesn't exist 13.44.01 # e.g. it detects a PP processor with model number having a 6 in it 13.44.22 # is it single thread or rtos kernel + boot task? 13.44.30 # just a single thread. 13.45.09 # Oh, wait, it's, like, 600kb 13.45.13 # though some of that is images, or empty space :) 13.45.21 # it's not 600kb of code, but the code is not all neatly together either 13.45.34 # I don't know arm asm nor PP unfortunately 13.45.50 # the boot code is not a seperate "blob", it doesn't have an entry in the flash's image table 13.45.58 # so you can't tell accurately which parts of the flash are supposed to be considered part of it 13.46.14 # only diskmode, diagmode, the apple logo and the video chip firmware are seperate images 13.46.18 # do we know JTAG pinout? 13.46.30 # no 13.46.34 # not sure if there even is one 13.46.56 # disassemblig it is particularly annoying because there's no single set of PP docs anywhere 13.47.05 # there's the ipodlinux wiki, and there's bits on our wiki, and there's the source for ipl and rockbox 13.47.12 # and the source for rockbox is the closest to authoritative of all of those 13.47.27 # the ipodlinux wiki is the part that's most like normal platform documentation but it's also really incomplete and inaccurate in places 13.48.11 # i found it waaay harder to get anywhere with than the beast's bootcode which i've reversed a lot more of 13.48.18 # because the imx31 manual is right there on the internet :) 13.48.25 # and so is the imx31 WinCE baseport 13.48.29 # alex: can you lionk your theme again please? 13.48.31 # which most of the beast bootcode is compiled from :) 13.48.49 # oh never mind... still in irc backsrcoll 13.48.50 # JdGordon: http://aeparker.com/files/CSB.7z 13.49.00 # oh, that's a bit big 13.49.02 # beast right? 13.49.08 # It seems I forgot to remove the fonts :) 13.49.12 # yep, beast 13.49.33 # yeh putting togeteher all information about PP would be helpful but it rather boring task 13.50.04 # wodz: well yes, actually writing a homebrew PP manual would be really useful 13.50.14 # but the people with the skills *and* patience to do that kind of thing are really, really rare 13.50.31 # we need to kidnap martin korth and make him do it 13.50.45 # http://nocash.emubase.de/gbatek.htm <- best reverse engineered manual for undocumented hardware ever 13.51.53 # hmm we know something about jtag in PP http://www.mail-archive.com/rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se/msg02049.html 13.53.26 # well yes but that doesn' tmean those lines are even connected on the ipod 13.57.27 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f59f6.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.00.03 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.00.34 # AlexP: what on earth have you done! 14.00.44 # no idea :) 14.00.47 # you didnt say the sbs partially gets displayed 14.01.11 # The screen goes all sort of patchy then the device freezes :) 14.01.13 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.01.13 # * JdGordon likes interesting bugs 14.01.43 # At least you can reproduce :) 14.14.04 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@24-148-89-52.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 14.18.20 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 14.26.45 Quit wodz (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.33.51 # with the std gnu99 change... would there be obvjections to chaning FOR_NB_SCREENS(i) to allow it do put "int i" in the for loop? 14.34.05 # #define FOR_NB_SCREENS(i) for(i = 0; i < NB_SCREENS; i++) => #define FOR_NB_SCREENS(i) for(int i = 0; i < NB_SCREENS; i++) 14.34.29 # probably add a new one to do it though, and use enum screen_type instead of int 14.34.33 Join Shapeshifter [0] (~Shapeshif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter) 14.36.53 # Hello there. Long time no see. I just dug up my precious iRiver H140 because I want to digitalize some vinyl discs I have. I thought instead of hooking my desktop up using a real long cable and worrying about interferences or ground loops, I'll just use this device as I think the sound chip is really good. Now, has anyone got specific tips or watch-out-fors when using the H140 with rockbox for recording? I just did a test recording ... 14.36.59 # ... and the lower tones seem quite lacking. I'm recording as WAV, yet the sound played directly from vinyl seems better than playing back what I record back to the amp. 14.37.41 # And I'm unsure about how loud I should set the amp. I've set the V options for left and right to 0 and instead turned up the amp louder, thinking that that should give me a wider dynamic range, right? 14.38.18 # * JdGordon prods petur incase he isnt watching... ^ 14.38.21 # Neither do I know what to do with the volume option on the device it self. Turning it all the way up or down? 14.38.31 # * petur wakes up 14.40.07 # Rockbox takes the bytes from the ADC and puts them in the file, no processing is done. So lack of bass must be a hardware problem 14.40.33 # the volume option is the volume of the earphones you can use to monitor 14.41.17 # if you listen to the headphones, is there also a lack of bass? 14.41.39 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.42.18 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.43.14 # petur: yeah at least I perceive it as such. Turning up the bass fixes it mostly. What should I do with the V options for left and right channels? 14.43.25 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 14.44.14 # eh? You have Volume (monitor volume of headphones) and then L and R gain, which is your recording gain. Keep gain below 20dB to reduce noise 14.44.52 # okay, but I shouldn't set the gain to 0? I mean, what is the gain for? I can just turn up the volume on the amplifier. 14.45.09 # yeah, in that case set gain to 0 14.45.29 # what output do you use on the amp? 14.47.49 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.49.09 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.50.35 # pixelma: did you see the patch i added to one of your skin bugs? 14.51.26 # hmm no, I should have gotten a mail from flyspray but didn't yet 14.51.39 # * pixelma needs to check something 14.51.44 # petur: The phono output. On the back of the amp, there also are 3x "REC" and "PLAY" red/white type plugs for "DAT/TAPE", not sure if I could use one of those. 14.53.00 # petur: http://images.kupujemprodajem.com/photos/oglasi/1/1/273601/big-273601_603100088_4_Big.jpg this is the back of my amp 14.53.08 # well not mine, but I got the same one. 14.54.57 # phono is normally an input... 14.55.48 # how about pre-out or one of the REC outputs (PLAY)? 14.56.42 # don't tell me you connected the iriver to the turntable directly, that would explain the lack of bass 14.56.55 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r28093): skin engine: completly rework the sbs title handing code ... 14.58.14 # s/REC/TAPE 14.58.27 # petur: oh uhm, not "phono", I meant "phones" ;) The 6.35mm TRS plug 14.58.49 # ah... still not good... you need a line-out 14.59.02 # I see. I'll try one of the REC outputs... 14.59.35 # the line outputs will be fixed, so you need to adjust gain on the iriver 15.00.08 # weird, I'm watching the task (status is correctly listed) and flyspray has the correct mail address. The comment was added yesterday and even if the mail spent a long time at my provider (which it sometimes does), it shouldn't be that long... :\ 15.02.21 Join timccccc [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 15.03.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.44 # * petur goes to sleep again... ping me if needed :) 15.05.00 # Zagor: build should have finished 5min ago? the propset hook didnt break it did it? 15.05.41 # petur: this is much better with the line-out. thanks. Now I'll just need to get rid of this horrible ground loop between turntable and amp. 15.05.42 # JdGordon broke the build server! 15.06.02 # Shapeshifter: lots of jump cables will help :) 15.06.28 # gevaerts: jump cables? I was thinking of buying a ground loop isolator 15.06.43 # Shapeshifter: jumper, sorry. The ones you use to start cars 15.06.55 # Ideal for making ground issue go away! 15.06.56 # seriously? 15.07.18 # If you have some lying arounf, definitely worth a try 15.08.18 # Not that I know much about audio... 15.08.50 # aren't ground loops basically just from a difference in ground levels? 15.08.51 # ground loops.... I don't get why devices aren't built is such a way that they simply don't occur. 15.08.58 # the idea is that if all equipment is grounded properly, there can be no such loop 15.09.18 # => ground stuff properly :) 15.09.25 # n1s: that's how I understand it, yes. And those jumper cables are the easiest way I know of to get them to go away 15.09.36 # the turntable doesn't have a ground wire to the power socket, it's just two-wire. Instead, it has a ground wire going along the audio cable to be attached at the rear of the amp. apparently, this isn't doing a proper job. 15.09.47 # gevaerts: i agree, seems like a KISS aproach :) 15.10.06 # Shapeshifter: is the amp properly grounded? 15.10.29 # But I don't get this whole business anyway, because simply *touching* the audio cable from the turntable to the amp induces an even stronger humm. how can that even be, the cable is wrapped in rubber/plastic 15.10.39 # gevaerts: mhh, not sure *goes looking. 15.10.54 # you're a living antenna? 15.10.56 # Shapeshifter: if not, another cable to the nearest water pipe or similar :) 15.11.46 # Shapeshifter: the signal from the turntable is very low, so noise can come to it easily 15.12.31 # * petur always wondered why turntables didn't come with amp and correctionfilter build-in 15.13.12 # becuase the audio equipment wasnt good enough that you would notice the difference? or the tech was too expensive? 15.13.20 # I assume modern ones do have that 15.13.23 # well damn. the amp only is two-wire as well. no grounding wire. I guess I could try to just attach a cable to the amps casing and run it to a radiator... 15.14.20 # petur: yes but why does touching the rubber coating of the audio cable make a difference? shouldn't it be insulated? 15.14.54 # * petur thinks the rest of the conversation really belongs in -community 15.21.48 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 15.30.11 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 15.30.16 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 15.35.07 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 15.37.36 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.46.03 # I'm going to bed pretty soon... if the builds ends up colourful can someone fix it? or i'll do it in the morning 15.50.54 # oops. Perl error: Illegal division by zero at rbmaster.pl line 1078. 15.55.21 # r28093 build result: 154 errors, 6 warnings (jdgordon committed) 15.55.29 # hu? 15.55.41 # oh bugger 16.01.46 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r28094): fix red 16.03.19 # r28094 build result: All green 16.03.33 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 16.06.58 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 16.09.35 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 16.12.23 # For the beast, which way round do the tone controls work? The manual lists treble and bass, but the actual thing has 5 band tone control 16.12.55 # Can I assume that e.g. band 1 = bass if I don't want to arse around with an equalizer, but just wan't a little more bass? 16.13.23 # AlexP: think so 16.13.45 # also could you fiel a bug against the manual as that is clearly wrong :) 16.13.48 # It is a little confusing to have what are I assume both hardware and software equalizers 16.14.03 # yes 16.14.04 # n1s: If I find out what they mean I'll just fix it :) 16.14.13 # awesome :) 16.14.53 # Especially as the hardware one defaults to "simple" mode (just change the gain), but software one to expert mode (change everything) 16.15.19 # I assume we have both as the software one is more configurable, or finer changes, but the hardware one is "free" 16.15.26 # the whole UI issue with 2 eq's and no bass/treb was discussed both when it was introduced for the ipod video (although the hw eq didn't actually work there) and when introduced for the beast but no good solution was suggested afaik 16.15.49 # AlexP: yes, that's basically it 16.15.50 # Well yes, I'm struggling to think of one, but it is highly confusing 16.16.38 # recap of the argument against simply having parallel UIs? 16.16.42 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 16.20.18 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 16.22.33 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 16.27.36 Join mroth- [0] (~gopp@ool-4a587baa.dyn.optonline.net) 16.40.45 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.45.07 # AlexP: are there no seperate bass and treble in the sound settings (no equaliser?). Some targets that also do these in software still have them as they are "cheaper" to process than an eq band 16.45.10 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.45.12 # e.g. the Iaudios 16.45.47 # no, the treble and bass are replaced with five gain bands (which are also in hardware, so equally cheap) 16.46.14 # So there are two equalisers essentially, one hardware, one software, and no seperate treble/bass 16.46.42 # IIUC :) 16.46.51 # sounds weird (the fact I mean) 16.47.05 # The reason the software eq is still there is that it is more fine grained than the hardware one 16.47.39 # well it confused me at first :) 16.48.16 # It is a good thing to be able to use all the capabilities of the hardware, but the UI question is an interesting one :) 16.48.55 # I don't fully grok what the UI question is. 16.49.31 # soap: Just that it is confusing to have what seems to be two equalisers, with no indication of the difference 16.49.45 # Also, why does one have a graphical way of setting it and the other not? 16.50.26 # And why does one default to letting you just change gain with an advanced menu to change width etc., while the other gives you all options off the bat with a simple menu option to just change gain 16.50.29 # AlexP: isn't one called hardware EQ or something? 16.50.36 # Ahh, the inconsistency of it. I didn't understand what the trouble was - now I do. 16.50.47 # also because noone made a graphical interphase for it :) 16.51.04 # One is called Tone Controls, the other is called Equalizer 16.51.07 # anyway bass/treble is a very limited EQ 16.51.59 # It jsut isn't clear that e.g. one is hardware the other software 16.52.25 # oh 16.52.27 # It also doesn't help that the manual doesn't have the "tone controls" one, and instead claims that there are treble/bass settings 16.53.04 # n1s: If you have two menu items, one called "Tone Controls" and the other "Equalizer", which is hardware? :) 16.53.31 # AlexP: :) 16.53.54 # Especially as the tone controls one then has inside (I was expecting treble/base) "Band 1 Gain", "Band 2 Gain" etc. 16.54.00 # i never use either of these things so it doesn't really trouble me 16.54.54 # i don't think theres a way to have all these options and make it obvious what the differences are 16.55.10 # No, it is tricky that's for sure 16.55.25 # The manual being correct would be a start, I'll do that tonight 16.56.02 # i think i remember it actually being called hardware EQ at some point, i wonder why it was changede 16.57.43 # ah, that was the ipod video variant 16.58.40 # maybe sound settings->EQ->hw and sound settings->EQ->sw 17.03.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.08.35 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.08.41 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 17.15.22 # i wish the eq screen contained a switch deciding if the sw or hw eq is to be used 17.15.31 # i can't see a point in having a separate screen for each 17.15.48 # or even letting both be active at the same time 17.15.56 Quit krazykit (Quit: awe yeeeeeee) 17.20.27 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@24-148-89-52.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 17.20.45 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 17.27.21 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 17.35.16 Quit timccccc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.35.19 Join timccccc1 [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 17.43.08 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-188-098-032-210.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.45.26 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.46.24 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC56EEB.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.51.47 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 17.54.57 Part Zagor 17.56.48 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A9BFEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.59.04 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 18.09.40 Join Maggux_ [0] (~quassel@krlh-4d0205b1.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.10.49 Join bimbel [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.12.15 Quit bmbl (Disconnected by services) 18.12.19 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.13.14 Join captainkewlllll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 18.13.49 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.18.05 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.30.36 Join lestatar [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 18.31.31 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 18.35.51 Quit utanapischti (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 18.36.50 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@92.117.15.215) 18.40.14 Quit Topy (Quit: Leaving) 18.40.24 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048100086.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.42.35 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.148.36) 18.56.50 Quit t0rc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.00.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.00.57 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 19.01.01 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.01.11 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 19.01.39 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.03.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.04.40 Quit Maggux_ (Remote host closed the connection) 19.08.52 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.13.40 # Torne: Do I remember rightly that you implemented the beast tone controls? 19.16.28 # i think it was jhMikeS 19.16.36 # ah right 19.17.03 # I'm just after a little explanation of what each item does :) 19.17.36 # I guess Band 1 and 5 frequencies are upper and lower bounds respectively 19.17.53 # but are frequencies for bands 2-4 centre frequencies? 19.18.44 # And then width for bands 2-4 are narrow or wide, do we know/do we want to give an indication to what that means? 19.19.31 # i would assume the same, the datasheet for the dac should tell you the details :) 19.19.46 # damn you! :) 19.21.14 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@p4FF2D545.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.23.33 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p4FD4FD91.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.23.33 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.23.33 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.23.36 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.24.35 # yes, it is that - starts page 111 of the datasheet 19.24.55 # There doesn't look to be a very much difference between wide and narrow if I'm reading it right 19.25.25 # I assume EQxBW = 1 or EQxBW = 0 is the width setting 19.28.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.29.46 Quit milz (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.30.31 # * pamaury reads the log and wonders why funman was looking at usb audio 19.42.28 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 19.45.04 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 19.46.24 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 19.46.58 Quit Dreamxtreme (Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. 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It doesn't report any underflow but the sound is obviously missing some parts 20.50.31 # It *does* use more cpu time although it might be relatively little of the total available cycles 20.50.37 # OK, cool 20.52.00 # also even if the beast's cpu is fast it still sucks power and is one of those modern chips where cycles spent sleeping are cheap so saving cycles is important for battery time although i have no idea how much impact the EQ would have 20.52.18 # a bench of that (on any target) would be very interesting imo 20.52.27 # yeah, makes sense 20.54.28 # New commit by 03alex (r28095): Manual: The gigabeat S has hardware tone controls instead of bass/treble settings, so update the manual to reflect this. 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So how do I know which one do I have? 23.16.57 Nick NappyHead3128410 is now known as lordlucan (~lordlucan@83-71-98-168-dynamic.b-ras1.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) 23.17.38 # lordlucan: neither. You have a clip+ 23.18.12 # oh i see! oops 23.18.44 # Rockbox works on all of those though 23.19.18 # the site says its unstable thoug 23.19.24 # *though* 23.19.57 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.21.04 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 23.21.06 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.21.36 # Yes, but I think the clip+ isn't very far away from being declared stable. I don't have one though, so I might be wrong 23.21.57 # I get the impression it is mainly USB, but that might be erroneous 23.22.02 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 23.23.34 # thanks guys 23.29.47 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 23.30.06 Join antIP [0] (~noip@75.87.251.50) 23.33.02 Join piotrm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 23.33.31 # is there suppose to be USB stack on the current SVN build for the sansa fuzev2 23.33.32 # ? 23.34.11 Quit piotrekm (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.34.11 Nick piotrm is now known as piotrekm (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 23.34.59 # froggyman: Yes but it isn't activated by default 23.35.19 # Jerom, how does one activate it? 23.35.37 # You need to pull the sources and recompile it 23.36.22 # okay, what do I need to change in the source though? I already have a build environment setup, and have compiled plenty of times before :) 23.36.42 # I did change some defines in firmware/export/config/sansafuzev2.h don't know if it's the best method but it works for me 23.37.03 # comment out #define USB_HANDLED_BY_OF 23.37.15 # And remove the comment from #define USE_ROCKBOX_USB 23.38.22 Quit lordlucan () 23.38.49 # does the bootloader need to be updated then so it won't turn on and boot into the OF if I plug in my USB cable right away? 23.39.12 # You don't need to update it 23.39.28 # And I don't think it's wise to remove this behavior 23.39.36 # You know unstable and such ^^ 23.40.44 # alright, I guess that would make sense then. Plus I wouldn't want to mess with the bootloader too much since I've heard plenty of horror stories about how easy it is to brick the fuze 23.42.12 # Do people typically use a file browser to get music onto their rockbox device? Or is there any software that one could use to 'sync? From the FAQ I got the impression that most people would use a file browser. 23.42.20 # back to "normal" situation for usb audio: buffer underflow every 0.1 sec, now I just need to find why.... 23.42.56 # antIP, quite a few people do use a file browser to do that, but there are plenty of programs to sync it for you 23.43.06 # antIP, what Operating system are you on? 23.43.48 # froggyman - Ubuntu 10.04 23.43.54 # pamaury: May sound like a dumb question but what is usb audio ? 23.44.21 # usb audio is a spec to have a usb audio device act as a sound card 23.44.31 # antIP, rhythmbox should be able to sync your music for you then 23.45.27 # froggyman - Ok. Do people still dual boot with the linux os? (I'm not sure how up to date the FAQ is in this regard.) 23.45.43 # antIP: dualboot what? 23.45.44 # so you plug your usb device and it is recognized as a sound card. I implemented this for rockbox (with a highly modified usb-arc driver and a modified usb stack and a new usb driver) and it worked. Two hours ago, I decided to resync with SVN head and it doesn't work reliably anymore :( 23.46.18 # antIP, there are people that dual boot between linux and windows (or possibly OS X), but thats not really on topic for here 23.46.30 # btw pamaury, nice work on the usb driver. It works well for me 23.46.33 # gevaerts: According to the FAQ cLinux (or something like that) is used to dual/tripple boot. (iPhone OS, Rockbox, Linux, or even Doom) 23.46.56 # Jerom: it fails randomly however... 23.47.18 # froggyman: I was referring to dual booting on on the iPod (rockbox/linux/iPodOS) ;) 23.48.41 # pamaury: Can i notice it when I don't look a log files or such ? 23.49.52 # Well yes, randomly it will happen that you plug your device and the usb connection doesn't work. It must be related to the PHY setup because well you plug, it either works perfectly or not at all currently 23.50.18 # If it didn't happen to you then you are lucky ;) 23.50.23 # ok :) 23.51.03 # I have a potential hacky solution but the real problem is probably the PHY setup and I have no idea about how to solve it 23.51.22 # Well when I did use the OF I only used the stock cable on the back from my pc or else it wouldn't 23.51.37 # work* 23.51.43 # Could it be related ? 23.52.00 # I also only use the stock cable 23.53.21 # Without any extension cord ? 23.53.31 # Because it would also fail with an extension cord 23.54.08 # I tried with and without and it's the same as far as I can remember 23.54.31 # the thing is that it's random and works most of the time 23.55.41 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 23.55.56 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.58.52 # anyway, gn folks