--- Log for 18.09.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 4 days ago 00.02.11 # HAHA 00.02.13 Join toffe82_ [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 00.03.10 # does the recorder not detect clipping properly on the clip+? 00.03.39 # the peak meter never reachest the top even when it's completely overloaded 00.04.26 Quit toffe82 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.07.09 # shuffle2: no, the device should send 3 packets (8+8+4) 00.09.27 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.09.52 # yes i've been assuming the arc driver/controller magically does this 00.09.53 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.09.54 # it doesn't 00.10.04 # tdlen=MIN(len,16384); 00.10.09 # ^bug #2 00.10.10 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 00.10.30 # is this the reason why your code fails ? 00.10.37 # shuffle2: are you setting the max packet size properly? 00.10.45 # Rockbox on the Dell Streak - v.nice :D 00.11.18 # first bug, which gevaerts found for me, was that ibss is cleared on boot, and the arc device appears to like a static buffer(?) 00.11.35 # the arc driver is intelligent but however it can't make the coffee 00.11.48 # hehe 00.12.37 # * pamaury doesn't see the link between "ibess is cleared on boot" and "the arc device appears to like a static buffer" 00.12.48 # shuffle2: if you want 8 bytes max packet size, you need to change init_control_queue_heads() 00.13.12 # we set 64 for max packet size in EP0 by default, no ? 00.13.28 # pamaury well the first thing was that i was storing all my usb descriptor data ibss 00.13.38 # so it would go bye bye, and i'd send all 0s 00.13.45 # ah :) 00.14.04 Join kubiix [0] (~59664f72@giant.haxx.se) 00.14.29 # But you're not actually allowed to use anything other than 64 for high speed 00.14.36 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@bl15-144-167.dsl.telepac.pt) 00.14.39 # gevaerts it's fullspeed 00.15.03 # Hello, I have an simple question about Ipod USB 00.15.14 # ok, 8 bytes is fine then, if you tell the controller about it 00.15.56 # Is there any sleep or spindown timeout when Ipod connected to USB host via Rockbox (no dick mode or Ipod FW)? 00.16.32 # shouldn't the values be extracted from the usb descriptors? or is this use case a little out of the ordinary? :p 00.16.59 # but ya, thanks for telling me the proper place 00.17.01 # shuffle2: that would mean that the lower layer driver code has to sniff for descriptors... 00.17.07 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.17.11 # kubiix: it will use the standard dist spindown setting 00.17.34 # *disk 00.18.10 # gevaerts: the setting from rockbox ? 00.18.14 # yes 00.19.06 # ok, thanks, i am using it as usb drive for Wii, and the spindown is causing me lockups in some games, when the Ipod is not accessed for a while 00.19.44 # yeah, the driver definitely shouldn't sniff the descriptor. At best, it could have a function to set the maximum packet size 00.19.52 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.21.16 Quit kubiix (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 00.22.21 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.23.11 # pixelma: now that I think of it it does seem like the issue started when I installed a new theme. do I have to remove it from the ipod entirely or will just changing themes do? Now I'm just waiting for it to try to sleep again. Is there anyway to force it to sleep manually? or shortening the sleep time even 00.26.49 Join s1gma_ [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 00.28.01 # Rockbox doesn't have sleep 00.28.13 # If you mean idle power off, then yeah, that is a setting 00.28.58 # that, then I guess 00.29.12 Quit edboyer93 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.30.26 Quit _s1gma (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.31.05 # ok, definitely still experiencing this glitch 00.31.15 # or bug, rather 00.33.24 # I'm fairly sure removing idle power off will sidestep the issue entirely, but I don't want to kill my battery, I just installed a new one too 00.34.17 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.34.32 Join edboyer93 [0] (~eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 00.35.01 # Eldrek: wait what's the problem? your ipod's going wrong on idle poweroff? 00.36.27 Quit fxb__ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.36.28 # yes, the backlight comes on and it wont turn off until I manually power it off with menu and select 00.36.40 # hm 00.36.46 Join fxb__ [0] (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.36.47 # only on idle poweroff, not if you shut down normally? 00.36.52 # right 00.36.56 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.36.57 # and the screen's just blank with the backlight on? 00.37.06 # yep, just a blank white screen 00.37.17 # what model and build? 00.37.25 # * Torne tries to remember which releases had which shutdown hack 00.37.39 # 30gb ipod video, rockbox version 3.6 00.37.45 # try the current build and see if it works better 00.37.59 # I thought 3.6 was the current one? 00.38.40 # 3.6 is the latest release 00.38.46 # not the current development build 00.39.04 # 3.6 uses the same shutdown method as current (clearing second half of iram then powering off via pcf) 00.39.26 # 3.5 does it differently, so that might be interesting to try as well (reboots to OF bootloader in batteryfail mode) 00.39.27 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 00.39.43 # (3.4 does it differently again, since it has neither shutdown hack) 00.40.27 # how long has 3.6 been out? (trying to find out what version I originally installed) 00.40.35 # couple of months 00.40.48 # has this always happened, or only recently? 00.40.50 # then I probably installed it to begin with >.< 00.40.53 # only since yesterday 00.40.59 # odd. 00.41.18 # and it does it every time? even if you are just sitting in the menu? 00.41.22 # yep 00.41.33 # hmm 00.41.55 # that's very odd, shutdown is not exactly complicated 00.42.12 # it pretty much just cuts the power once it's done with everything else 00.42.28 # and there's a timer so it cuts the power anyway if the clean shutdown doesn't complete inside of something like 40 seconds 00.42.30 # yesterday I fully disassembled the ipod, but that shouldn't have done anything to it should it? it still works fine with the ipod firmware 00.42.49 # ...possibly you have shorted aux_pwr or something? 00.42.57 # and it's not the first time I've taken it apart 00.43.02 # if this only started happening since you took it apart then that's suspicious :) 00.43.35 # the ipod wakes up when power is applied over the dock connector, or when menu or select are pressed, or when the RTC alarm fires 00.43.45 # but if it was that it should just boot up.. 00.43.59 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 00.44.00 # RTC? 00.44.05 # realtime clock. the alarm. 00.44.12 # ah, okay 00.44.14 # but whatever causes it to power on it should just start up 00.44.28 # starting up isnt the problem, though 00.44.34 # well you say that ;) 00.44.44 # but there are some problems with startup on some people's ipods, where they ahve to reset sometimes 00.44.49 # it doesn't normally involve the backlight being on though 00.45.11 # the shutdown hacks i mentioned earlier were attempts to fix the startup problem 00.45.15 # none of which work fully 00.46.11 # amazing how some people know everything ... ;) 00.46.19 # i'm not sure, i'm afraid.. 00.46.21 # indeed :D 00.46.23 # it's not something i've heard of before 00.46.37 # and i don't know everything, i've just spent ages working on ipod startup/shutdown and power/charging 00.46.40 # :) 00.46.48 # try the current build. 00.46.59 # alright 00.47.04 # if that doesn't make any difference, try 3.5 00.47.13 # because that handles shutdown differently 00.47.32 # maybe I shorted it like you said 00.47.40 # Well, maybe, but I don't think that'd really explain it 00.47.44 # but would it still take power from the dock connector if I did? 00.47.58 # there's two power pins on the dock, one for usb power at 5v, one for firewire power at 12v 00.48.14 # you may have shorted the 12v one possibly? but i think rockbox would behave oddly while running also then 00.48.20 # always thinking it was charging, etc 00.48.22 # I thought they quit using firewire in later ipod models 00.48.27 # they removed the firewire data pins 00.48.33 # but it can still charge from the 12V firewire power 00.48.37 # I see 00.48.44 # for accessories and car kits that power it that way 00.49.21 # anyway, it's probably not that, i was just pondering what could cause it to stay on 00.49.21 # installed current and retrying now 00.49.36 # the ipod basically cannot turn off while external power on eitehr pin is applied 00.49.39 # it just refuses 00.49.48 # so if that's gotten stuck somehow then it might do something like what you see 00.50.02 # hmm 00.50.14 # could I just cut the pin if that were the case? 00.50.26 # well, you should be able to tell if it is or not by looking in rockbox 00.50.31 # see what the current build does first 00.50.34 # would the OF not turn off aswell? 00.51.12 # notlistening: i'm not sure; the OF doesn't normally go to sleep while power is applied but I don't think the PCF actually *prevents* it 00.51.16 # i think it's just a choice.. 00.51.28 # same thing on the current build 00.51.34 # so maybe if it was a bit floaty the GPIO might read as not connected and the apple firmware would behave ok 00.51.51 # the PCF's poweron interrupt isn't necessarily triggered at the same level 00.52.07 # Eldrek: ok, one sec 00.52.12 # GPIO? so many acronyms lol 00.52.14 # lemme grab mine so i can tellyou where in the debug menu to look 00.52.23 # alright 00.52.30 # General Purpose Input Output 00.52.46 # I thhink ;) 00.52.52 # so, the dock connector? 00.53.18 # ok, in rockbox go to system -> debug 00.53.21 # then view battery 00.53.24 # then scroll the wheel down once 00.53.42 # you should get a screen with a bunch of status messages, including "USB pwr:" and "EXT pwr:" 00.53.44 Join Evilnick_ [0] (~Evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.53.48 # are those both "absent"? 00.53.52 # yes 00.54.00 # right, so rockbox doesn't think there's any power 00.54.02 # headphone says connected even though it's not, though 00.54.21 # oh? interesting 00.54.26 # do you use the pause on headphone unplug thing? 00.54.32 # yes 00.54.37 # and does that still work? :) 00.55.15 # (also does it fix itself if you plug in the headphones then take them out again) 00.55.31 # i can't see any reason why the headphone detect signal being stuck would cause shutdown to fail.. 00.55.40 # but if it *is* stuck than that suggests you did break something when you took it apart ;) 00.56.06 # well the headphone jack has been in pretty bad shape ever since I got it 00.56.16 # right 00.56.18 # part of the plastic is chipped, etc 00.56.21 # so maybe that's not new 00.56.47 # after reinstalling my settings are back to default, where again was the pause on unplug located? 00.56.51 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.56.57 # you didn't have to uninstall it 00.57.02 # or delete the rockbox directory 00.57.03 # Get a Sansa Clip+ and 32GB sd card 00.57.06 # Sorted :D 00.57.07 # for future reference. you can just overwrite it. 00.57.13 # and then your settings will be kept :) 00.57.28 # alright, I figured I would do the whole uninstall incase something I had in there was causing problems 00.57.50 # yah, ok. 00.57.58 # anyway i forget where it is, i'm guessing playback settings 00.58.15 # no, it doesnt pause it 00.58.32 # Heh 00.58.36 # I think it's stuck, then :) 00.58.51 # unfortunate but shouldn't, on its own, cause this shutdown thing 00.59.12 # i'm reading the pcf datasheet to see whether it exposes its idea of what the wakeup signals are, bear with me 00.59.27 # in the meantime I guess I'll try 3.5? 01.01.05 # ah, drat, we don't output the relevant pcf registers on the debug screen :) 01.01.34 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 01.02.22 # yeah, give 3.5 a try just to see if anything is different 01.02.34 # I can't find it with the rockbox utility 01.02.38 # but i'm afraid i'm leaning towards "you broke something when you took it apart" here.. 01.03.15 # hmm 01.03.34 # heh, well I was messing with the pins so it wouldn't surprise me 01.03.37 # http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.5.1/rockbox-ipodvideo-3.5.1.zip 01.03.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.03.46 # there you go :) 01.04.07 # Eldrek, why would u want to mess with the pins....? 01.04.39 # it's just really odd that it would only affect the idle poweroff 01.04.52 # i'm kinda out of ideas i'm afraid 01.05.09 # notlistening: I was planning to try soldering wires to it and hacking in a micro usb connector 01.05.23 # but when u mess with electronic you get stange behaviour 01.05.51 # oh okay ;) 01.06.56 # I'm not really concerned about the thing, I just wanted to tinker, see if I couldn't do something interesting :) 01.07.09 # notlistening: well, you shouldn't get *inexplicable* behaviour, gneerally 01.07.32 # you might not know specifically what you broke but generally there should be a plausible thing you could've broken to cause the behaviour :) 01.07.53 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.08.19 # the only thing I broke was part of the casing, which I just super glued in place :x 01.08.35 # I was carving out a space for my micro usb connector when I broke it 01.08.35 # true but tracing it might be beyond his equipment facilities 01.08.56 # anyway.. if you can't work out how to sort this, then turning off idle poweroff is not actually the end of the world.. 01.09.12 # the ipod's power drain when the disk and screen are off and it's doing nothing is pretty low 01.09.26 # it won't drain the battery for a long time 01.09.38 # wont it eventually drain it completely though? 01.09.43 # eventually, yes :) 01.09.50 # but you can hopefulyl remember to manually power off before then 01.10.00 # and that means no more functional lithium battery heh 01.10.04 # no.. 01.10.08 # well maybe 01.10.16 # probably not though. 01.10.20 # I wont remember heh :P 01.10.20 # lol Torne 01.10.27 # The power controller shouldn't let it get to the point where any actual battery damage occurs 01.10.36 # if the battery voltage goes super low then it *will* cut the power 01.10.42 # 3.5.1 worked! 01.10.42 # even if rockbox hasn't noticed 01.10.49 # Right, that's plausible 01.10.53 # rockbox independant 01.10.56 # since 3.5.1 basically reboots to the OF in order to shut down 01.11.17 # so if the OF can shut down then that also working makes sense 01.11.20 # I still don'tknow *why* 01.11.29 # ah well, it's working now 01.11.35 # sooo. I was considering implementing the 3.5 shutdown method on the current builds, as an option 01.11.42 # because the problem it's a workaround for still happens for some people 01.11.55 # so i was gonna give users the choice of using it if they wanted, since there are downsides to both methods 01.12.03 # so that would help you as well 01.12.05 # so thanks a ton. anything major I'm missing from 3.6? I don't notice a difference tbh 01.12.12 # unless/until you can work out the actual problem. 01.12.42 # no problem 01.12.52 # if you do ever find out what the actual issue is, do come tell us 01.12.58 # because this is Crazy Weird still 01.13.10 # though I did notice the start up splash screen was different, and it was the one I saw originally. So I guess I just installed 3.6 when it started doing that 01.13.30 # ah, hm 01.13.35 # that's particularly weird. 01.13.44 # If you wer ereally curious to generate more data, you could try 3.4 as well 01.13.50 # because that's before i started messing around with shutdown at all 01.14.06 # if 3.4 works but 3.6 doesn't then that means there is a downside to my new workaround after all 01.14.20 # i have been, so far, assuming the new workaround only fails to fix the startup issue for some folks 01.14.23 # I'll let you know if I find out, but I doubt I will. My main motivations for coming here for help was 1. potential bug fixes and 2. getting my little mod going. heh. 01.14.30 # but maybe this means that it does actually cause a problem for someone too 01.15.02 # ok. well, at some point i'll add a setting for the shutdown type and then you can probably use the current builds instead of 3.5 01.15.15 # many kudos if you do 01.15.43 # I'll give 3.4 a try while I'm at it 01.15.58 # well it's not particularly hard, i just need to find a little time for it :) 01.16.19 Quit ender` (Quit: Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets and then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again. -- The Wizard of Oz (from Marin County newspaper's TV listing)) 01.16.38 # ..where can I find 3.4? 01.16.50 # by guessing based on the url for 3.5.1 01.16.52 # :) 01.17.56 # well that was the easy way to do it 01.18.01 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.18.16 # What if you run 3.6 now that the problem has been "cured" by the 3.5 shutdown routine? 01.18.26 # soap: interesting 01.18.32 # i doubt it, though 01.18.36 # Actually, before that, answer this question: Since the problem started have you rebooted into the Apple original firmware? 01.18.46 # yes, soap 01.18.53 # there goes my theory. 01.19.05 # thats the first thing I did, to troubleshoot whether it was rockbox or my hardware 01.19.24 # Theory being that there was still /something/ the OF is doing on shutdown which Rockbox is failing to do (and 3.5 does by nature of calling the OF). 01.19.54 # well that's still possible 01.19.56 # And that running the OF would clear that out, however it got set. 01.20.04 # and 3.5's shutdown doesn't really call the of properly 01.20.30 # it just starts a tiny bit of the bootrom, with memory set to the state that implies "you failed to boot last time because of insufficient power" 01.20.33 # I know, perhaps an overly simplistic description. 01.20.48 # i wouldn't expect it to be very clever about how it shuts the thing down 01.21.24 # Never assume anything 01.21.39 # currently the broadcom chip is just acting as passthrough? 01.21.57 # er, ish 01.22.03 # we load its firmware into it now, i think 01.22.05 # (just thought about the broadcom chip as it is a screen-related issue). 01.22.07 # so that we can shut it off 01.22.58 # Oh, that's right. I forgot how the screen-power off got accomplished. Was that present in 3.5? 01.23.09 # i think so, it' sbeen there a while 01.23.18 # i forget he details though, the bcm video scares me 01.26.23 Part toffe82_ 01.29.50 # same white screen issue in 3.4 01.30.05 # ah, so it'snot the iram clearing causing it then 01.30.06 # that's good :) 01.30.33 # want me to try anything else? 01.32.33 # can't think of anything, i'm afraid 01.34.21 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.34.32 # Is the stuff in the manual about the OF being loaded when plugging the USB cable into a clip+ outdated? 01.34.51 # Acorn, yes 01.35.12 # Last time I updated anyways 01.35.23 # Is there any way to switch that functionality on? Or do you just have to turn the player off and then plug in? 01.35.49 # So you want the OF with power? 01.36.10 # power/usb 01.37.20 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.43.27 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 01.45.51 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.47.19 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.77.217.134) 01.48.31 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.48.43 # Acorn: it was disabled recently because it caused problems for some people 01.50.54 # hm, okay 01.52.10 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 01.57.19 Quit Casainho (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100915180533]) 01.59.33 # If I'm not getting clipping being detected when recording, is that because I need to change some settings? 02.00.31 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.04.21 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.11.21 Quit notlistening (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.23.31 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 02.26.12 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host105-54-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.29.54 Quit s1gma_ (Quit: Leaving) 02.32.01 Part Eldrek 02.34.09 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.34.46 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.38.09 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 02.38.50 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: Operation timed out) 02.39.34 Join kaiscene [0] (kaiscene@ool-18e45d82.dyn.optonline.net) 02.40.05 # Is anyone still interested in the resistor calculator plugin? 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We don't believe this to be a coincidence.) 04.09.17 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.09.21 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.106.217) 04.09.22 Join Dreamxtreme_ [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.106.217) 04.10.56 Quit Dreamxtreme_ (Client Quit) 04.11.00 Quit Dreamxtreme (Client Quit) 04.11.53 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dreamxtre@92.30.106.217) 04.32.17 Quit binaryhermit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.32.55 # puetzk, run rockboxdev.sh to build that compiler. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CrossCompiler 04.33.05 # yep, working toward that 04.33.09 # ok 04.33.23 # Thanks for the link though, I should have mentioned that I was just griping :-) 04.33.52 # I expect building it mac native could be... interesting, so I'm setting up more modern ubuntu VM first to do it in 04.33.54 # yea, I had a feeling you were and I was going to be telling you things you already knew. 04.34.13 Quit Beta2K (Quit: Changing server) 04.34.17 Join Beta2K [0] (1000@d24-36-97-38.home1.cgocable.net) 04.39.22 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.43.31 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.45.30 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 04.47.52 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 04.56.18 Join Hillshum [0] (4ba5f419@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.165.244.25) 04.56.45 # What's this about the Clip+ having 80% USB support? 04.57.42 # you can sort of transfer files before it dies sometimes 04.57.49 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.57.51 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.57.51 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.57.52 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.57.53 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.58.12 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.00.16 # Interesting. Nice to see that the AMSv1 devices have proper USB support 05.03.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.15.33 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.16.18 Quit bieber_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.16.32 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 05.19.54 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 05.21.39 Quit panni__ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.21.56 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE3C1A.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.22.32 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.22.33 Join kaiscene` [0] (kaiscene@ool-18e45d82.dyn.optonline.net) 05.22.34 Join The_Seven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.22.46 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 05.26.03 Quit Hillshum (Quit: Page closed) 05.27.02 Quit kaiscene (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.27.02 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.27.02 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.30.24 Join bunnyboi [0] (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) 05.32.41 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.34.44 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7FD36.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.35.41 Join VTRay [0] (~nowhere@pool-98-117-83-150.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) 05.35.47 # sup all 05.35.52 # need help 05.36.13 # is it worth trying to instal rockbox on a v2 fuze 05.37.42 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 05.37.52 # how so? 05.38.07 # if someone could walk me through the upgrade that would be greatly appreciated as I am not very savvy with this stuff 05.38.32 # RButil should pretty much do it for you 05.38.59 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility 05.39.13 # i have original firmware 2.03.33 05.39.36 # or i meant the sandisk updater updated my fuze to that firmwar 05.41.38 # ok i did attempt to use that utility but the complete installtion tab and minimal installation tabs are grayed out 05.41.42 # what does that mean 05.41.57 # so i cant select them 05.43.38 # so any thoughts on that 05.44.31 # should i try installing the bootloader? 05.45.46 # did you select a device to install? they'l l probably be grayed out if you don't tell it what to install 05.46.57 # yes i selected fuze v2 05.47.08 # and it found the mount point too? 05.47.25 # i had to choose the mount point 05.48.01 # Ok. Then your next step is to patch the original firmware with the rockbox bootloader 05.48.03 # the sansa is connect to the pc via a network hub 05.48.09 # could that be a problem 05.48.20 # Dunno. I probably wouldn't do it for the bootloader portion 05.48.32 # It shouldn't hurt, but... 05.48.33 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 05.48.55 # so how do i patch it 05.49.07 # hit install, follow directions 05.49.25 # u mena install bootloader 05.49.29 # yep 05.49.40 # so which firmware do i need 05.49.48 # doesn't matter 05.50.07 # Whichever one you want it to use when you hit the "dual-boot" key to launch the original firmware instead 05.50.24 # bluebroth3r: any chance of a new rbutil release soon? the current version is getting a bit old 05.51.10 # ok the bootloader install went throught now what 05.51.18 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f61d5.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.51.32 # install rockbox? 05.51.35 # Now your player should be rebooting and flashing itself (if the Fuzev2 works like my clip+ 05.51.49 # The next step is to install rockbox, yes 05.52.00 # New commit by 03funman (r28105): Update Polish translation ... 05.52.11 # it didnt reboot 05.53.00 # it just says connected and the sansa colored logo is doing its thing 05.53.16 # If install rockbox is enabled, hit that next 05.53.23 # then you need to use mkamsboot, see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS 05.53.26 # it won't hurt anything to do them both together 05.53.52 # * puetzk hasn't done the bootloader in a long time, I may be fuzzy on how rbutil sequences things 05.54.06 # r28105 build result: All green 05.54.42 # ok gotcha 05.54.53 # the sansa syas reading right now 05.54.58 # now writing 05.55.22 # pixelma: Zagor: I don't get flyspray notifications either 05.55.26 Quit kaiscene` (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.55.29 # ok the uitility said it finished successfully 05.55.39 # but my sansa is not back to just saying connected 05.55.45 # do i need to unplug it? 05.56.00 # not= now 05.56.12 # yes, unmount it and then unplug it 05.56.23 # (unmount == safely remove, or eject disk, or whatever - not sure what OS you're on) 05.56.44 # ok im on xp 05.57.10 # it is readin firmware upgrade in progress 05.57.13 # OK. 05.57.23 # upgrade completed 05.57.29 # and it turned off 05.57.37 # That's as expected 05.57.42 # turn it back on and it should be rockbox now 05.59.21 Join kaiscene [0] (kaiscene@ool-18e45d82.dyn.optonline.net) 05.59.26 # looks like it worked 05.59.38 # so what makes this unstable? 05.59.50 # USB, mostly 06.00.04 # You still have to use the OF (or the card slot) to put files on it 06.00.27 # OF == original firmware 06.00.45 # if something isn't working (except Doom and what is listed on SansaAMS page of the wiki) it's a bug and should be reported 06.00.55 # If you plug it into USB (instead of turning it on first), it should go to the sansa firmware 06.01.04 # on my Clip+, holding Home or left while turning it on does the same 06.01.41 # I think the Fuze uses the same buttons 06.02.15 # yeah that's the Left button on Sansas 06.02.18 # so i take it this will probably eventually be patched 06.03.12 # yeah, check out the wiki page above, USB is discussed there 06.03.25 # is ther an eta 06.03.31 # when it works 06.03.33 # on a patch ot still on going 06.06.53 # ok so i unplugged it from pc and now it is back to OF 06.07.01 # how do i go back to rockbox? 06.07.06 # turn it off and back on 06.07.08 # * lestatar NP: my music player: 10Balanescu Quartet - Maria T - The Young Conscript And The Moon - (3:39 / 6:41). 06.07.12 # it goes to the OF to handle USB 06.07.22 # ah simple enough 06.07.23 # ooops! sorry wrong window :( 06.07.32 # and the OF doens't know it's supposed to reboot back into rockbox when you're done 06.08.44 # gotcha 06.09.49 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224236001.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.09.49 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 06.09.49 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 06.12.59 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.17.55 # rockbox is pretty nifty 06.18.22 # and rockbox can be removed right? 06.18.36 # yes 06.18.47 # Sure, just flash the sansa firmware back on (like you did when updating it), and delete the .rockbox folder from the top 06.18.54 # Not that you'll want to :-) 06.19.33 # or use the "Uninstallation" tab in RBUtil 06.23.42 Quit clone4crw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06.27.55 Quit kaiscene () 06.28.00 # is it me or does the top part of the screen seem way up there 06.30.01 # fuze screen is often misplaced in the case, the OF reduce height to compensate 06.34.41 # ls 06.34.50 # wrong window 06.36.15 # is see fuman 06.36.25 # intersting to kno 06.39.27 # do any games have sound 06.39.47 Join Ramsey[LC]_ [0] (~RamseyLC]@adsl-71-158-161-74.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 06.41.01 # some do 06.41.04 # most let the music keep playing 06.41.06 # some have their own 06.41.23 Quit Ramsey[LC] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.41.23 Nick Ramsey[LC]_ is now known as Ramsey[LC] (~RamseyLC]@adsl-71-158-161-74.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 06.44.38 # so i still need to install fonts package, themes, anda gems 06.44.40 # games 06.51.44 # games are all contained with rockbox, unless you mean Doom WADs or emulator ROMs 07.01.38 Join mikeplus64 [0] (~sudough@c211-30-205-20.thorn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 07.03.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.07.52 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 07.13.44 Quit timccccc (Quit: Leaving.) 07.13.56 Join timccccc [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 07.16.27 # what are those voice files 07.16.36 # on the install utility 07.22.20 Quit timccccc (Quit: Leaving.) 07.23.40 # check the manual it should explain voice 07.23.51 Quit Tuplis (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.26.33 Quit bunnyboi (Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad) 07.30.25 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.33.47 Quit Galois (Remote host closed the connection) 07.33.49 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.34.14 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 07.39.43 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.43.11 Join Guest66207 [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 07.47.46 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 07.51.03 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 07.51.03 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 07.54.46 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 07.55.42 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 07.57.39 # Anyone here familiar with the AMSv2 recording code? 07.58.09 # My clip+ has always been very quiet, and very prone to clipping; I think I've solved the latter, and at least figured out what causes the former 08.00.40 # The clipping is because of the way firmware/drivers/audio/as3514.c:audiohw_set_recvol is using the mic gain and the ADC gain; for some reason it's trying to keep the mic gain as low as possible, even if that means it has to use max gain (+12dB) in the ADC 08.01.09 # Which, like settings things above 0dB almost always does, means it will clip 08.02.18 # lowering the cutoffs from 36 and 32 to 28 and 24 (so that it keeps the ADC settings <= 0dB if possible) makes that much better 08.04.18 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.04.20 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.05.32 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-174-240.student.uu.se) 08.05.32 Quit n1s (Changing host) 08.05.32 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.07.38 # puetzk: this file was written for e200v1 and i just made minor modifications for it to work with AMS 08.08.04 # i didn't really looked at recording quality 08.09.07 # do you have the datasheets for as3514/as3543 ? 08.09.38 # No; I grabbed the 3525 one off the web, but the others appear to be semi-private 08.09.54 # I've never hacked on rockbox before, just decided to dig into this one because it was annoying me :-) 08.11.01 Join solexx [0] (~jrschulz@e176113249.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.11.05 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 08.11.19 # they are private but AustriaMicroSystems sent them to us. if you want to work on this and promise to keep them private i can send them to you 08.11.51 # as3514 is almost completely identical to what is described in as3525 datasheet anyway 08.11.57 # Sure. puetzk@puetzk.org 08.12.10 # Or is there some more formal "promise to keep them private" involved? 08.13.05 Join Maggux_ [0] (~quassel@krlh-4d020099.pool.mediaWays.net) 08.14.17 # no that's enough, if you want to steal the datasheets from me all you have to do is fake interest in enhancing rockbox ;-) 08.15.08 Quit solexx_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.16.35 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 08.17.16 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.18.10 # I'll start a flyspray with what I've learned so far and the patch that fixes some of it 08.18.15 # access to these docs usually require signing a NDA but after some email exchange they were kind enough to just give the docs to use without formal documents. (mail sent: ~4.5MB) 08.18.47 # Right now I've just changed it globally; I don't know if it should be only for AMSv2 or not, I don't have any other SansaAMS devices 08.20.27 # now i remember this problem might already have been mentioned but i couldnt find the cause 08.20.47 # kudos on the toolchain setup, by the way; the VMware image was out of date, but even having to compile it it's the easest cross-toolchain I've ever set up 08.20.53 Quit Highlander (Quit: Quitte) 08.21.01 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54060 08.21.29 # not building a libc makes things easier 08.23.16 # we know about the vmware image being out of date but noone seems interested in fixing it 08.24.39 # n1s: did you see FS#11608 ? (last comment about tremor) 08.24.59 # nope, i'll take a look 08.25.41 # interesting 08.26.22 # i have a r278something build on my fuze and haven't had any whitenoise or crashes that i've noticed 08.27.08 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 08.27.08 Quit pixelma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.28.40 # i'll update it to current and test more later 08.42.57 # funman: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11631 08.43.28 Part Adublaptop 08.44.25 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 08.45.45 # puetzk: thanks 08.46.26 # i'll try on clipv1 (AMSv1), if someone can try on e200v1/c200v1 that'd be nice 08.46.55 # I can confirm that this used to work right (without the patch) on an e280v1 08.47.05 # but I lost that player (hence bought the clip+) 08.47.11 # so I can't check it now 08.47.37 # So I suspect the patch will mess up e200v1 08.47.47 # (or at least give it a change it doesn't need) 08.48.17 # if we can use the same code on all models it's better (less #ifdef) 08.48.27 # agreed 08.48.51 # It might also be that the e200 just had an ADC that could overdrive +12dB without being awful 08.49.34 # But it definitely sounded OK back when I had one 08.51.57 # It's really a pretty good mic when it's not all mucked up :-) 08.52.07 # I'm impressed for what had to be an afterthought 08.55.36 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 08.56.40 # which gain did you use in your test? 08.57.04 # +12 08.57.41 # The loudest one that doesn't clip with the patch 08.58.33 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.03.02 # funman: I wanted to ask wodz or bohoon (or however he's spelled) about the Polish translation first. I think it's better for languages for which we have native speakers as active committers 09.03.08 # it looks ok on clipv1 without the patch 09.03.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.03.51 # pixelma_: ok 09.05.10 # funman: does fuzev1 have a regular codec buffer or is the whole thing in iram? or is that only the clip? 09.05.26 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.06.55 # n1s: regular 09.07.23 # codec buffer in iram is for clipv1, m200v4, c200v2 (amsv1 && mem <= 2) and clipv2, fuzev2, clip+ (amsv2, because iram is 1MB) 09.07.32 # funman: hmm... 09.08.10 # * puetzk digs in the data sheets you passed along 09.08.37 # funman: ok 09.10.38 # puetzk: btw, the channel is logged, so maybe putting your mail address here isn't such a good idea 09.10.49 # pixelma_: yeah, I thought of that after hitting return 09.10.59 # so be it, it's posted on my web page and in many list archives 09.11.08 # spamassassin has to earn its keep 09.12.00 # ok 09.12.16 # not much to do after sending it anyway :-) 09.13.21 # maybe someone who has access to the machine that does the logging could manipulate it 09.13.35 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FDCA921.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.15.14 # funman: the mic PRE_GAIN values are higher on AS3543, so the calculation would be off for v2 09.17.15 # oh right 09.17.45 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.18.21 # Only 2dB though, which souldn't any different than just having set asked for 2dB more. So that shouldn't explain wildly different behavior.. 09.18.59 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 09.19.53 # If anything it should help; my patch made us run the mic preamp up to 12dB hotter so the ADC's input didn't need so much gain. 09.19.57 # hmm 09.20.45 # i have trouble comparing with and without the patch on clip+, someone with better ears than me should try :) 09.21.11 # Seriously? You can't hear the difference between the two recordings I posted? 09.21.15 # Or yours isn't doing that 09.22.12 # i can hear it on your recordings, but i think the source i use for my recording isn't loud enough / or i'm not placing the clip+ at the exact same distance from the speakers in each test 09.23.47 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 09.24.21 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.24.34 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 09.24.53 Join Highlander [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 09.25.23 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 09.29.16 Quit CGL (Remote host closed the connection) 09.29.53 # OK. My source wasn't crazy-loud, just an acoustic guitar. The Clip+ was sitting in my desk a maybe 2ft away 09.32.11 # well, I think I'm going to turn into a pumpkin. There are definitely difference in the microphone preamps circuits between AS3525 and AS3543 in the docs you shared, so I'll investigate more tomorrow. 09.33.32 # and update the flyspray if I learn something. 09.33.38 # puetzk: keep in mind that as3543 is a preliminary datasheet and there might be typos or inaccurate stuff 09.34.31 # ok, i'll subscribe to the task 09.35.04 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 09.39.18 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 09.39.22 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@residents-ReservedNAT-129-174-190-10.residents.gmu.edu) 09.39.22 Quit kramer3d (Changing host) 09.39.22 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 09.39.37 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 09.43.01 Quit mikeplus64 (Remote host closed the connection) 09.44.19 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.44.31 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 09.47.04 Part puetzk 09.59.44 Quit Maggux_ (Remote host closed the connection) 10.00.36 Quit anewuser (Quit: a day off) 10.01.47 Quit Guest66207 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.04.55 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 10.08.09 # funman, i've now listened through an entire album in ogg on my fuze with no problems and i can not see any problem with the malloc changes in tremor that comment reffered to 10.12.20 Join Tuplis [0] (~jani@adsl-77-109-221-158.kymp.net) 10.21.08 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.23.43 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.23.44 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.24.03 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 10.24.03 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 10.45.34 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.55.57 Join Maltin [0] (maltin88@boneym.mtveurope.org) 10.56.52 Quit kramer3d (Quit: Leaving) 10.59.01 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 11.01.02 Join AndyI [0] (~pasha_int@212.14.205.32) 11.01.48 Join Guest61306 [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 11.01.48 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.03.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.03 Quit Maltin (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.05.39 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.13.34 # JdGordon: I'm not sure, I completely understand your message here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11593 11.13.56 # which part? 11.18.06 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 11.21.39 # JdGordon (for later): a) isn't switching hold some sort of dynamic? At least it seems to change something, once. (b) if I replaced "Test" with current time in song, should it work? (c) I *think* I tried your code on my M5, replacing the RGB value with grey shade ones and put current time in song below - the text put behind the %Vf doesn't show up and the foreground colour doesn't change. (d) this is with r28095 which is no fun due to the backdrop 11.23.37 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 11.34.42 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 11.34.43 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.43.25 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 11.53.55 Quit Guest61306 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.54.27 # pixelma: the way the engine works is that some tags are considered "dynamic" which means they are drawn every single update, that doesnt mean thouhg that when they change they cause the rest of the screen to do a full update 11.55.07 # so my code (should) work because %?mh when mh changes the conditional is redone completly causeing either a or b to be displayed 11.55.30 # if you put any tag which is considered dynamic into your "test" line then it would work 11.57.39 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.59.06 Join timc [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 11.59.40 # I tried two things which I think goes along those lines - one to just replace "Test" with a dynamic tag (at least I think %pc is - displaying the current time in a song) and then adapting your example code to greyscale and the way I understood it. I can pastebin the new test.wps if you want. 11.59.42 Nick timc is now known as Guest86734 (~tim@112.166.15.141) 12.00.15 # s/goes/go 12.01.51 # yes that should do it 12.06.25 # http://pastebin.com/Jp1F47q7 is what I tried directly on target. Neither TTT nor GGG show up (though I don't know if they should) - plus the current playback time doesn't change colours 12.06.59 # 0 is black and 2 is light grey which should be quite noticable 12.07.31 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BE9F1E.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.07.59 # that should work 12.08.16 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-142-94-34.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.10.37 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.10.51 Quit Guest97767 (Quit: leaving) 12.11.09 Join feisar- [0] (jljhook@irkki.fi) 12.13.00 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.14.08 # well, it doesn't ;) Am I allowed to reopen the task? It's not that important but would be nice. 12.14.42 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-100-88.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.15.59 # I still wonder why it would work with conditional viewports that define %Vf/%Vb for themselves. Where is the difference? 12.21.03 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.22.41 # the difference is that viewports which are conditionally enabled to a full redraw when they become enabled 12.22.56 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 12.22.57 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 12.23.52 # couldn't %Vf/%Vb do that too if they change? Not sure if that is tracked though 12.24.31 # IIRC they could only force that for the line they are on 12.25.19 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.25.19 Quit AndyI () 12.25.20 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.25.44 # actually maybe for the rest of the current viewport 12.26.20 # hi, i just wanted to compile an ipod video build with cygwin and configure tells me that the correct compiler (arm-elf-eabi-gcc) is missing. this package doesn't seem to be available at http://download.rockbox.org/cygwin/ . can someone point me to the instructions how to obtain this crosscompiler? 12.27.42 # you probbaly need to build it yourself 12.28.11 # you'd need to compile it yourself, running the shellscript and it may need some other packages and on cygwin: patience. I'm not sure but I thing there are some instructions in the wiki and some threads in the forum 12.28.22 # I think too 12.29.39 # ok, thanks 12.30.11 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.31.06 Quit pixelma_ (Quit: .) 12.33.19 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 12.37.05 # JdGordon: ok, reopen the task or add a new? And where can I find which tags are dynamic ones? 12.37.49 # reopen it and link to that paste, libs/skin_engine/tag_table.c 12.39.36 Join will__ [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-76-235-42-7.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 12.40.06 # how hard would it be to write a .ROCK that advances the current track by a set amount of time? 12.42.44 # not very 12.43.13 # why should it be a plugin - and did you check out the "Skip Length" settings, maybe they already do what you want? 12.43.41 # yeah, but I want a second choice 12.44.00 # i was also thinking of making the record button do it. 12.46.13 # I listen to a lot of talk radio, and during certian parts of certain shows it would be nice to have a 5-minute skip. But I use the 1-minute skip too much to go without it. 12.46.59 # I'll do some reading. There is a "how to write a rock" page IIRC. 12.50.04 # In that case you should look into making it a hotkey instead of a rock 12.50.26 # thanks 12.50.39 # I imagine starting a plugin to change that is more time consuming than changing the setting - and if you don't want to trawl the menus, you could possibly set skip length as quickscreen items or prepare two .cfgs . I don't know how you imagined the UI though 12.52.05 # Good idea. Thanks. 12.52.42 # I can make a .cfg that only changes one setting? (and there fore it will load really fast?) 12.52.51 # *therefore 12.55.14 # yes 12.57.21 Join Maggux_ [0] (~quassel@krlh-4d020099.pool.mediaWays.net) 13.03.53 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.111) 13.03.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.12.15 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@83.240.187.245) 13.12.43 Quit will__ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.9/20100824153629]) 13.13.50 Quit Guest86734 (Quit: Leaving.) 13.15.28 Join s1gma_ [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 13.17.23 Quit _s1gma (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.20.16 # Are there known problems with clipping detection when recording on the Clip+? 13.22.02 # JdGordon: out of curiousity. When seperating %Vf/%Vb from the viewport definition, I believe you said that this would make it easier to implement "white on black" modes for monochrome screens. Is that so and how complicated is it? 13.22.32 Quit Maggux_ (Remote host closed the connection) 13.23.18 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 13.23.37 # dunno, presumably it just needs a flag for the viewport to set the inverted draw mode 13.23.44 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 13.23.44 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 13.23.44 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 13.24.14 # Acorn:I think in today's logs there is talk about problems with recording gain on AMSv2 Sansas in general (which I think the Clip+ is). Someone started looking into it if I read things correctly 13.26.26 # pixelma, ah I see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11631 13.28.13 # Wait.. the bug ticket was opened today? Funny coincidence :D 13.30.30 Quit simabeis (Remote host closed the connection) 13.31.33 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A989D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.33.32 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 13.41.33 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-051-164.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.42.35 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.44.45 # JdGordon: sounds more like a new parameter then instead foreground or background "colour", might even be useful for all targets as you could then work with the global colours, or? 13.46.00 Join Zarggg_ [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 13.46.13 # Another option is to make monochrome understand foreground and background colour (just 0 and 1) (needs driver work) 13.46.38 Quit Casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 13.47.03 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.49.14 # amiconn: in this case I think (atm) that 0 and 3 would be better because then those themes could work on greyscale just the same (I'm thinking of the M:Robe100 especially). That's probably just a minor detail though 13.51.44 # * pixelma wonders if this "driver work" would also be motivating to get global fore- and background shades on greyscale ;) 13.52.00 # That would be rather arbitrary (the 0 to 3 on 2 bpp is because with two bits you can represent 0..3) 13.52.36 # It also wouldn't help themes because if the theme uses 1 or 2, what should the driver do with those? 13.54.14 # Global shades is independent of that 13.54.34 # I thought about the parser and maybe checkwps (and more about the other way round). If you don't do that you have to take care if "shade" 1 is meant for greyscale or for monochrome 13.54.51 # otherwise you'd get grey on black themes etc. 13.55.56 # I know it's independent but also driver work I guess, hence I said "motivating" 13.56.17 Join Curulan [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 13.58.50 Quit Zarggg_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.59.09 Join Zarggg_ [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 14.02.36 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 14.02.38 Quit Curulan (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.04.17 # i'm still having problems with the crosscompiler installation on cygwin. after having run the rockboxdev.sh script to install the arm-elf-eabi compiler i still don't have the arm-elf-eabi-gcc executable under /usr/local/bin/ . in that location are other files that start with arm-elf-eabi-... but not the gcc one. 14.05.03 Quit Zarggg_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.22.11 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 14.22.20 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f054209043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.27.16 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.35.56 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.40.50 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.42.44 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 14.51.25 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 15.04.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.18.31 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.19.16 Join philippp [0] (~570df77f@giant.haxx.se) 15.19.41 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 15.21.46 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f054175196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.22.11 # Hi. Is there anyone who knows anyting about the status of creative Zen porting? 15.25.10 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.26.54 Quit philippp (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 15.43.18 Join skfunnyboy_ [0] (~skfunnybo@modemcable024.96-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 15.43.37 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 15.45.36 # try http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZEN 15.48.12 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote host closed the connection) 15.48.15 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@71.20.73.59) 15.48.15 Quit mc2739 (Changing host) 15.48.15 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 15.48.44 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 15.49.48 Join sevenfourk [0] (~sevenfour@unaffiliated/sevenfourk) 15.50.31 # hello people! I'm looking for scrobbler.log example/sample, how the file format looks ? Thanks. Ivan 15.52.00 # probably easiest just to turn on scrobbling then look at the file it produces 15.53.48 # irc://irc.audioscrobbler.com/#audioscrobbler 15.53.49 # The thing is my java based old nokia 6151 doesn't scrobble by itself, tired of looking some java app to do scrobbling, mobscrob failed for my cellular 15.57.32 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15.57.48 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 16.01.36 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host160-182-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 16.07.48 Quit ender` (Quit: The Popemobile: Because nothing says "I have faith in God" like 3 inches of bulletproof glass.) 16.14.26 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.15.34 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.26.18 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 16.32.48 Quit sevenfourk (Quit: What is that?) 16.33.11 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.111) 16.43.48 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.47.28 # i love the fact that my phone sometimes starts calling people by random when i use the rockbox app :> 16.48.51 # huh? How does that happen? 16.49.20 Join Adubb [0] (~Aldubuc@67.201.160.156) 16.49.37 Part Adubb 16.51.45 Join puetzk [0] (~private@173-31-158-106.client.mchsi.com) 16.52.49 Join balintx [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 16.54.57 Join Lear [0] (chatzilla@rockbox/developer/lear) 16.57.30 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.77.217.134) 16.58.15 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 17.01.17 # gevaerts: wish i knew 17.02.13 # sometimes, other tracks also start playing via the default music player activity 17.02.26 # totally unrelated to what i'm doing 17.04.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.08.04 Join dave [0] (~dave@78.151.96.64) 17.08.30 Nick dave is now known as Guest11980 (~dave@78.151.96.64) 17.09.12 Quit Guest11980 (Client Quit) 17.10.08 Quit VTRay () 17.10.34 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.11.15 # * kugel has neither of that problems 17.11.17 Join zeef [0] (~53654c4f@giant.haxx.se) 17.11.23 # and I use the rockbox app every day 17.11.36 # is anybody here that can help me with install ? cant get the think working 17.11.49 # thing* 17.12.26 # would greatly appreciate it 17.13.23 # which player zeef? 17.14.00 # damned 17.14.03 # i know the reason 17.14.10 # doesnt work on ipod classic, does it ? 17.14.25 # No. not to my knowledge 17.14.27 # any alternative for playing flac on ipod classic ? 17.14.29 # othersie i'd have one :D 17.17.04 # seem converting to ALAC is your best bet 17.17.12 # no flac support is possible 17.18.28 # ok thanks 17.18.38 # know a good converter for doing that in bulk ? 17.18.51 # you using windows? 17.18.51 # that you dont have to do directory per directory 17.18.53 # yup 17.19.22 # no sorry i converted to Linux about 7 years ago and do not use Windows anynire 17.19.36 # Keep on topic please 17.19.43 # Rockbox stuff only in here 17.19.53 # thanks anyway 17.19.56 Quit zeef (Quit: CGI:IRC) 17.19.59 # Sorry AlexP 17.20.03 # no worries :) 17.22.41 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 17.33.47 # kugel: what phone? 17.33.53 # i'm on a legend 17.33.57 # htc legend 17.34.00 # hrm 17.34.24 # btw, any reason the rockbox amp control and the android native one aren't mirroring each other? 17.35.12 # the android one is global, the rockbox one is only for rockbox 17.36.00 # the android one decides volume for all media apps, rite? 17.36.11 # yes 17.36.28 # then why not use that? we're a media app 17.36.52 # we do use that, don't we? 17.37.16 # oh we do, but i have to use both that one and the rockbox one to adjust the volume to max, for example 17.37.33 # would be cool if the rockbox volume control just was the android media volume control 17.37.50 # is that a problem? you can set the rockbox one to max once and only use the global one after that (the way I do it) 17.38.04 # rockbox consistently forgets its settings here 17.38.08 # so i have to do that each time 17.38.23 # your phone seems messed up 17.38.33 # settings work just fine here 17.38.49 # nothing special about it, newly reset, rockbox app form your site 17.38.56 # so unless that has been updated very recently 17.39.03 # you should install from source 17.39.19 # meh 17.39.22 # i don't know how old the one on my site is, nor if it's even in a workable state 17.39.35 # working* 17.39.36 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 17.39.52 # it works fine enough if i never background it 17.40.13 # I've not updated the apks on my site since ages 17.40.30 # but yeah, i'll have to install the android sdk shit on my linux install to roll my own, so guess i'll have to wait a while 17.40.57 # I can upload new ones later this day if you like 17.41.06 # well, would certainly be nice :) 17.42.00 # drop me a line here when it's done and i'll update 17.45.16 # the apk runs very nicely on the Dell Streak 17.45.19 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 17.45.23 # just so you know 17.45.29 # then ones from the wiki 17.45.30 # nice to hear 17.46.07 # Good job 17.46.30 # kugel: btw, did you manage to work around the buggy background task stuff in 2.1 android? 17.48.40 Quit The_Seven (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.49.07 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.49.51 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.50.37 Quit puetzk (Quit: puetzk) 17.52.58 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 17.54.16 Join Adubb [0] (~Aldubuc@67.201.160.156) 17.54.46 Join Casainho [0] (~chatzilla@2.81.142.189) 17.56.19 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.56.21 Part Adubb 17.58.22 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.58.31 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 18.00.09 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 18.00.18 Quit notlistening (Quit: Leaving) 18.00.31 # pixelma: I saw in log you wanted me to look at something 18.02.15 # preglow: no, I think it's impossible 18.02.37 # it's not a 2.1 bug, it's a htc bug 18.03.41 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 18.09.54 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@212.233.135.74) 18.16.23 # is someone here with knowledge of the rockboxdev.sh script and cygwin? 18.17.20 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 18.25.12 Join noamsml [0] (~noamsml@adsl-75-45-234-233.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 18.26.02 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.26.35 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 18.32.50 # Hm, this is odd 18.33.09 # On my sansa e200, when I try to copy a folder onto it, it becomes unwritable 18.33.19 # But I can write on it again when I remount it 18.33.54 # Wait, no 18.34.02 # It's just one specific folder 18.34.04 # Weeeird 18.34.44 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 18.34.58 # OK 18.35.06 # There's some sort of odd damage to the FS 18.36.16 # If I try to ls one of the foldes (Enya-The Celts), which is supposedly empty, it goes nuts 18.37.48 # Huh, I managed to delete it from the player and now everything seems to work just fine 18.37.52 # Odd 18.38.16 # do a fsck/chkdsk just to be sure 18.38.34 # OK, one sec 18.39.10 # back in the day, the screenshot feature of rockbox could BSOD windows :) 18.39.15 # "There are differences between boot sector and its backup" <-- is that normal? 18.39.44 # (it created files that had identical short names) 18.39.55 # "There are differences between boot sector and its backup" <-- is that normal? <- it's not unusual 18.43.14 # Grr 18.43.17 # I think it's stuck 18.44.28 # I tried playing a file and it just keeps saying "Loading" 18.47.58 # ender`: Do you know of any way to force-reboot it other than unscrewing the case and temoving the battery? 18.48.34 # most players have some way to hard reset them - look in the wiki 18.53.34 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 4.0b7pre/20100917030855]) 19.00.18 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@a130018.upc-a.chello.nl) 19.04.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.12.15 Quit s1gma_ (Quit: Leaving) 19.13.49 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 19.17.43 Quit clone4crw (Quit: Lost terminal) 19.20.50 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.21.08 Join Adubb [0] (~Aldubuc@67.201.160.156) 19.21.38 # noamsml: hold the power button long enough 19.22.28 # gevaerts: Thanks, I figured it out 19.22.35 # Still not sure what caused the crash 19.27.27 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.35.50 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 19.40.53 Quit skfunnyboy_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.42.40 Join skfunnyboy_ [0] (~skfunnybo@modemcable024.96-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 20.05.49 Quit mikroflops (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.06.22 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@90-230-97-182-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 20.09.15 Join Highlander_ [0] (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 20.13.06 Quit Highlander (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.15.36 # preglow: new built is up 20.26.10 Nick Highlander_ is now known as Highlander (~Highlande@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) 20.32.15 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.32.45 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-64-225-76-dynip.superkabel.de) 20.33.15 Join lars_g [0] (~lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 20.33.20 # Hi rockboxers 20.35.29 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.37.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@dhcp-128-203.residence.ens-lyon.fr) 20.37.52 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 20.37.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.46.10 # hmm, is voice file creation not using the multithreading implementation? 20.46.17 # (in Rockbox Utility that is) 20.48.16 # kugel: same url, ye? 20.50.57 # kugel: cheers mate, already seems to work better :) 20.56.19 Quit MagusG (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.57.10 # anyone know how to use embios? 21.04.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.35 Quit lars_g (Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/) 21.04.53 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-71-59-57-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 21.10.37 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 21.13.35 # hmm, doesn't look like limiting the number of threads used for voice creation works as expected? 21.16.03 Join larrythechamp [0] (~larrythec@c-98-222-44-4.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.16.39 Quit larrythechamp (Client Quit) 21.17.35 Join Tolao [0] (~5ddc9f29@giant.haxx.se) 21.22.25 Join saratoga [0] (9803c22e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.194.46) 21.22.38 # bluebrother: did you see my message last night? 21.23.37 # 28! 21.40.26 Quit GodEater (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.43.16 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 21.43.16 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 21.43.16 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 21.51.56 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.53.45 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 22.02.04 # saratoga: yes. We can do a new release soon. I'd really like to get that TTS issue addressed first though. 22.02.23 # that's why I'm looking into that multithreading thing in voice file creation right now. 22.03.44 # however, if I don't figure it this weekend we can make a release nevertheless. It's a known bug and it only affects voice file creation. It's not really great but shouldn't prevent a new release from happening, especially considering the updated to the patchers. 22.08.12 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@212.23.105.216) 22.16.46 Quit clone4crw (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.17.21 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@public-gprs103117.centertel.pl) 22.21.18 # I got a suggestion today to ask http://translatewiki.net/ about help and volunteers for translations to Rockbox 22.25.15 Join Buckwheat [0] (~chatzilla@64.68.182.75) 22.25.40 Part Buckwheat 22.27.08 # Hi. Can i have admin rights on the FS? 22.28.20 # sure 22.29.03 # don't you already? 22.29.30 # hum? 22.30.03 # ouch, someone gave me already, thanks 22.30.52 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 22.32.18 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 22.34.19 Quit anewuser () 22.34.36 # considering new release - I don't think we should release until theme engine stabilizes a bit 22.35.31 # hey do you think its possible to run rockbox with ibugger or embios on the nano 4g ? 22.36.10 # skfunnyboy_: If you port rockbox to 4g than yes 22.36.41 # and how can i do this ? any volunteers ? 22.36.57 # if you do it, you are the volunteer! 22.37.04 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 22.37.23 # skfunnyboy_: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/NewPort 22.41.07 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r28106): Display number of processors in System Info dialog. ... 22.43.10 # r28106 build result: All green 22.50.14 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r28107): Display number of processors in System Info dialog. ... 22.52.02 # r28107 build result: All green 22.53.12 Quit b0hoon (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 23.02.37 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.04.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.30 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.16.30 Quit Tolao (Quit: CGI:IRC) 23.20.34 Join kaiscene [0] (kaiscene@ool-18e45d82.dyn.optonline.net) 23.21.17 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.23.19 # what happened to mktccboot? 23.23.55 # what should have happened to it? 23.24.25 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.26.50 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.29.39 # bluebrother: it moved to rbutil :) 23.31.04 # that's been almost a year now :) 23.32.11 # bluebrother: all this time i used an old bootloader and it works now too :) 23.32.33 # what is the correct way to build something from rbutil dir outside the rockbox directory? 23.32.53 # you can build the patchers in-tree just fine. 23.33.14 # (same as with the tools in tools/) 23.33.26 # and how to build rbutilqt? 23.33.31 Quit piotrekm (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.33.39 # which platform you're using? 23.33.46 # linux 23.33.52 # in-tree too? 23.34.00 # cd rbutil/rbutilqt && qmake-qt4 && make 23.34.08 # you don't need to build it in-tree though. 23.34.26 # mkdir build; qmake-qt4 ../rbutil/rbutilqt/rbutilqt.pro && make 23.34.38 # cool :) 23.35.07 # or use utils/common/deploy-rbutil.py -d (though that will create you a tarball out of it for releasing) 23.35.07 # hm, on submit-form for an patch on flyspray was a foot-note which suggests to discuss the patch on irc.. so i will just do ist :) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11632 23.35.19 # *it 23.35.46 # bluebrother: thanks! 23.36.20 # Stummi: does rockboy even support audio playback while running? 23.36.50 # leavittx: you're welcome (and prepare that rbutil/ might get moved some time too :) 23.37.55 # bluebrother, how i wrote: I only do have an sansa fuze v2. There is it not possible, because it says there is not enought memory for rockboy where i playing music... i am thinking it should be possible on a player with more memory 23.38.09 # also, what is the reason why keyboard controls not work anymore in simulator (cowon d2 one)? 23.38.16 # s/where/while 23.39.01 # how much memory does the Fuzev2 have? 23.39.53 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@addo150.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 23.39.54 Quit piotrekm (Changing host) 23.39.54 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 23.41.02 # hm, i don't know exactly. Where can I see this? 23.43.56 # oh, only 2 MiB according to tools/configure 23.44.13 # * bluebrother though the fuze had more memory but likely mixed that up with fuzev1 23.45.25 # bluebrother: it tools/configure shows 8MB (and it's correct) 23.45.44 # Stummi: Music playback in rockboy isn't safely possible 23.46.07 # * bluebrother can't read 23.46.14 # in case of window zoom > 1, i'm not able to control the simulator at all :( 23.46.20 # (1) Rockboy uses the audio buffer for loading game roms. (2) Rockboy uses pcm itself 23.46.50 # ok, reading the wrong line usually results in wrong information :o 23.49.58 # On targets with 8MB or less it's loaded as an overlay as well, meaning the plugin code itself also resides in the audio buffer 23.51.28 # ok, than it would be better to leave out the playback control at all? 23.53.26 # yes 23.55.05 # The savegame stuff is probably fine; can't really comment on it because I don't use rockboy for real 23.55.29 # ok 23.56.43 # Than i have to see how to get a standalone volume control in a menu 23.58.34 # The plugin api has sound_set(), sound_max() and sound_min()