--- Log for 21.09.110 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 7 days ago 00.00.09 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 00.00.14 # the load_code api is open for codecs&plugins, if you get the compilation right you can just load the library on runtime 00.01.49 Join toffe82_ [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 00.02.09 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-156-130.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.02.09 # will plugins be available on Android..? 00.02.28 # notlistening: not decided yet 00.02.38 # fair enough 00.02.56 # Most plugins don't really make sense in raaa. Some do though (e.g. PF) 00.03.17 # lol i want doom :D 00.03.25 # which you can have without rockbox 00.03.31 # exactly 00.03.36 # really :P opps 00.03.42 # many of our plugins are ported to android already 00.03.50 # I see 00.03.50 # New commit by 03zagor (r28129): Added some missing build information. 00.04.09 # there's no technical reason to exclude plugins. making them work for all the screen resolutions is just a lot of work 00.04.36 # New commit by 03zagor (r28130): Stricter subst to avoid erroneous substitution. 00.04.47 # did you manage to make a dynamic resizing work..? 00.04.51 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 00.04.59 Quit toffe82 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.05.08 # Actually a similar problem as optimisation for different arm versions 00.05.10 Join Rondom__ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-163-207.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.05.19 # notlistening: no 00.05.28 # I haven't even tried though 00.05.37 # r28129 build result: All green 00.05.55 # kugel, oh not what the wiki said :P 00.06.04 # (doesn't just apply to libdemac) 00.06.30 Quit Rondom_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.07.22 # r28130 build result: All green 00.09.00 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-172-070.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.09.15 # I just read take it back ;_ 00.10.12 Part MxxCon ("Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is") 00.10.34 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.12.11 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.13.13 Quit Rondom__ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.14.10 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.15.32 # * kugel doesn't understand the logic to play the selected track in the playlist viewer 00.16.33 # * kugel doesn't understand the logic in the playlist viewer 00.20.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.20.59 # oh, enlightenment! 00.21.28 Quit captainkewllll (Quit: Page closed) 00.21.35 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.23.49 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.24.01 Quit toffe82_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.24.43 # our list code documentation is horrible 00.25.31 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 00.25.39 Quit toffe82 (Client Quit) 00.25.47 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.27.50 Part Zagor 00.29.52 Quit giovanni_ (Quit: Sto andando via) 00.34.18 Quit Jerom (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.38.24 Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@95.86.74.243) 00.43.06 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.111) 00.44.38 Quit ender` (Quit: I'm a complex person. I have a real and an imaginary part.) 00.46.56 Join Jerom1 [0] (~heidi@ks27625.kimsufi.com) 00.48.06 Quit Jerom (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.48.15 Quit notlistening (Quit: Leaving) 00.48.56 Join TheSeven [0] (5f70885c@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.58.28 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-195-93.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.02.23 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.03.52 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.111) 01.05.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.05.45 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@g227184241.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.06.06 Quit Jerom1 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.06.52 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.08.30 Quit Jerom (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.09.30 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.10.24 # New commit by 03kugel (r28131): Fix a bug in playlist viewer's list handling, causing superfluous redraws and ... 01.12.02 # r28131 build result: All green 01.22.12 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.28.49 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.31.18 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.41.42 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 01.45.21 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.49.51 Quit _s1gma (Quit: Leaving) 01.58.24 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.00.51 Quit TheSeven (Quit: Page closed) 02.05.46 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Night.) 02.18.45 # * kugel has nice scrolling on touchscreen working 02.20.05 Quit Chronon (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.20.21 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.20.24 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 02.20.48 # if anyone wants to have a play: http://pastie.org/1171182 02.21.16 # ? 02.21.35 # oh, proper touch scrolling? 02.22.38 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.22.50 # yea 02.23.01 # no acceleration or kenitic'ism though (yet) 02.23.04 # do a 480x800 apk please? 02.25.54 # and still line based of course :P 02.27.16 # JdGordon|: up at the usual url 02.27.23 # which is? 02.27.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort 02.27.59 Join madalu [0] (~user@unaffiliated/madalu) 02.31.21 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-233-99.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.40.26 Quit pixelma (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.40.59 Quit amiconn (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.42.40 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-18bdaed1.dyn.optonline.net) 02.47.44 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 02.48.18 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.49.34 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 03.01.05 # which is? 03.03.56 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host163-18-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 03.04.51 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 03.05.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.19 Join hebz0rl__ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-216-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.09.22 Quit hebz0rl_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.26.14 Quit CGL (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.26.24 Quit utanapischti (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.27.15 # I'm trying to install Rockbox on an iPod Nano 1g, and it is producing the error "Partition not found. Connect usb cable and fix it". I have looked over the site and have not been able to find an answer. Is there any way that I can get rockbox working on my iPod? 03.29.21 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.33.10 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@109.250.21.49) 03.43.47 # DemonX: is it windows formatted? 03.43.52 # yes 03.44.08 Join Adublaptop [0] (~Aldubuc@67.201.160.156) 03.44.12 Part Adublaptop 03.44.22 # I messed around, added partitions, restored in iTunes multiple times 03.44.56 # 1.3.1 OF, using stable 3.6 for installing rockbox, using RockboxUtility 03.47.30 Quit froggyman (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.55.36 Join shuffle_2 [0] (~shuffle2@cpe-74-74-168-216.rochester.res.rr.com) 03.56.48 Quit shuffle2 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.02.13 Quit madalu (Remote host closed the connection) 04.21.03 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@pool-72-69-207-158.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.21.03 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 04.21.04 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 04.22.22 # is there a way to increase the maximum volume in rockbox? 04.29.50 Quit edboyer93 () 04.30.39 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.30.40 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.30.40 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.30.42 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.30.44 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.31.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.42.27 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.44.22 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f4e9c.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.48.02 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.48.03 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 04.48.18 Join Rondom_ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-191-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.51.02 Quit DemonX (Quit: DemonX @ DemonX.net) 04.56.18 Join soap [0] (~soap@nl-l1.connectionvpn.com) 04.56.18 Quit soap (Changing host) 04.56.18 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 05.01.16 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.05.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.16.49 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.18.54 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.19.58 Quit parafin (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.20.35 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 05.33.38 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.38.51 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.44.50 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7F297.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.52.33 Quit clone4crw (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.00.58 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.04.50 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 06.11.13 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 06.11.14 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 06.12.19 Join galicheng [0] (~7da4ecf9@giant.haxx.se) 06.12.52 Quit galicheng (Client Quit) 06.42.48 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.45.53 Join t3mpp [0] (~t3mpp@90.189.237.222) 06.53.09 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 07.01.21 Join mundo [0] (~4c699f93@giant.haxx.se) 07.01.35 # hi 07.02.26 # ChanServ: hi 07.02.34 # hi 07.03.22 # hi 07.03.46 Quit mundo (Client Quit) 07.05.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.06.15 Join mundo [0] (4c699f93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.105.159.147) 07.06.21 # hi 07.06.29 # anyone here? 07.08.30 # hello? 07.09.40 # if you have a question just ask, if you dont then read the guidlines link in the topic 07.11.57 # oh hi 07.12.08 # ya, I can not download sansa clip 07.12.18 # everything else work just fine, except sansa 07.12.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi 07.12.30 # sansa clip I mean 07.13.05 # if you have the file, can you host/up it somewhere? 07.13.19 # http://build.rockbox.org/ 07.13.59 # >"< I prefer the stable version - first time I rock any box 07.15.36 # well the clip doesnt have a stable version 07.15.47 # if it did that link you posted would work 07.16.42 # hmm, in the homepage it says Clip v1 does have stable 07.17.01 # Zagor, hopefully you read the logs :) was the clipv1 stable in 3.6? it looks like byhand.cgi is generating bad links? 07.17.06 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.182.72) 07.17.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/ 07.17.43 # cool getting my sansa fuze cabel to work with my mini projector. and found this firmware stuff 07.17.45 # mine is clip v1 07.17.48 # cable. ^ 07.18.14 # mundo: yes, the clipv1 wasnt stable when 3.6 was released 07.18.29 # how can I check what version of fuze I have. 07.18.48 # check the firmware version 07.19.10 # how do I check the firmware version? 07.19.26 # which one? fuze v1 or v2? 07.19.34 # yes 07.19.38 # I dont know which 07.20.07 # hmm 07.20.17 # how do I upload the firmware? 07.20.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 07.20.41 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 07.20.46 # go to the manual -> installation, there should be a way to say which is which 07.20.55 # k 07.21.47 Quit skx` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.23.20 # Thanks version 2.03.31A 07.23.31 # mundo: there is no stable release for clip yet 07.23.45 # Thanks 07.23.57 # mine is Fuze v2 07.23.59 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 07.24.27 # has anyone gotten a usb keyboard / terminal connection 07.25.26 # no idea what it is :( 07.25.33 Quit Gabe_G23 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.25.41 Join skx` [0] (~skx@d51A4AF07.access.telenet.be) 07.25.45 # to use the sansa fuze as a terminal 07.26.03 # check cpuinfo by typing cat /dev/cpuinfo etc. 07.26.21 # What is the chipset of the fuze? 07.27.09 # wow, fuze runs GNU/Linux? 07.27.23 # http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/11/28/rockbox-is-not-linux/ 07.27.29 # can you flash the original fuze back on 07.27.35 # heh 07.29.34 # can you flash the original or get the original firmware? 07.29.59 # or save the original firmware? 07.30.10 # yes 07.30.24 # how do I save the original fw 07.30.41 # read the manual's installation section 07.30.59 # I see where rockbox let you bot between it and the original firmware. 07.32.02 # bah, you dont need to do anything, the sansa firmware is never removed 07.32.31 # oh ok 07.33.03 # Hey Gordon 07.33.14 # is there anyway I can create playlist on my PC 07.33.28 # and put it into my clip? 07.33.39 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3B864.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.33.39 # rockbox will read standard m3u playlists 07.33.50 # everywhere? 07.34.04 # or only in some specific playlist folder? 07.34.25 # well, the playlist has to be on the device and has to contain the correct paths according to how m3u works 07.34.32 Nick shuffle_2 is now known as shuffle2 (~shuffle2@cpe-74-74-168-216.rochester.res.rr.com) 07.34.49 # that's all I need :) thank you good sir 07.35.37 # Does the audio / video pinouts work on rockbox? 07.35.50 # that depends 07.35.51 # audio should, video no 07.35.56 # dho 07.36.16 # I would love to make a presenter app for it. 07.36.17 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 07.36.26 # no one is stopping you ;) 07.37.10 # would be nice if the video pins where active. will be neat never the less 07.37.27 # does it even have vieo out? 07.37.37 # mine does 07.38.10 # I just bought the video out cable for it. it said sansa fuze specifically 07.38.10 # Good night ppl 07.38.14 Quit mundo (Quit: Page closed) 07.39.01 # will make some converter for power point to photo images per slide initially. 07.39.35 # but rockbox would let me change and add a presentation option. 07.40.02 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 07.40.26 # i.e add the conversion inside the fuze. 07.40.48 # having a built in converter for video would be nice as well. 07.41.03 # can rockbox run ffmpeg? 07.41.10 # no 07.41.21 # any effort to do that? 07.41.26 # no 07.41.31 # there isnt really a good reason to... 07.41.39 # why is that? 07.42.11 # I would like to store the original video on the fuze and have a .fuze version as well for local viewing. 07.42.46 # these do not have the most powerful processor...it would be far more time-efficient to get to a computer, convert, and copy back 07.43.18 # true but if you have no other option 07.44.19 # then it still would probably save time to drive somewhere for 20 minutes, convert, transfer, and drive back for another 20 minutes 07.44.21 # I dont have a laptop but usually need the videos copied over on demand ,no real time to covert them. 07.45.18 # the other option is to add a auto conversion option to abby. 07.48.34 # ok will be back later , rockbox is neat will try it out. 07.58.39 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797C492.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.59.11 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.04.43 Quit t3mpp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.09.03 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914125854]) 08.10.06 Quit anewuser () 08.15.38 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.26.59 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.34.47 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.36.25 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 08.47.37 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g227184241.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.49.25 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.49.58 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.02.47 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 09.05.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.09.05 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 09.09.08 Quit markun (Changing host) 09.09.09 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 09.09.09 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.09.49 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE3A51.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.12.52 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.13.08 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.13.08 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.14.32 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 09.14.32 Quit markun (Changing host) 09.14.32 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 09.15.44 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.21.15 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 09.27.14 # Zagor: hey, dunno if you saw above, there is either a problem with the byhand.cgi script, or with people saying ports are stable before a release has been built for them? 09.30.11 # hmm, yeah the script assumes stable builds have been released. I thought that was a principle we had? 09.30.39 Join t3mpp [0] (~t3mpp@90.189.237.222) 09.31.05 # probably. It really doesnt make sense to put it in the stable area untill it has had a release, so maybe it just needs a reminder 09.37.35 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.38.39 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@92.117.22.132) 09.40.06 # kugel: is there a reason the (empty) gen/org/rockbox dir is version controlled? 09.40.22 # JdGordon|: have you tried the build? 09.40.48 # yeah, scrolling is still a bit awkward, but better 09.41.26 # the way its drawn makes it feel laggy, but meh 09.41.26 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 09.42.33 # * JdGordon| needs to get his keyboard navigation patch checked in 09.43.47 # Zagor: I guess because git doesn't handle directories 09.44.16 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 09.44.28 # kugel: huh? I mean it's only an output dir, isn't it? and you explicitly create it in android.make. so it's not really needed in svn? 09.44.48 # yes it isn't 09.44.56 # ok, good 09.45.39 # FS#11621 - Website doesn't distinguish between "stable" and "released" targets 09.45.43 # I added R.java accidentally, but deleting it yesterday didn't remove the dir (i thought it would) 09.46.03 # ok 09.46.27 # I'm just polishing the makefile a bit 09.48.33 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 09.49.04 # JdGordon| yea, because everything is still line based 09.49.49 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 09.50.28 # JdGordon|, Zagor: I believe there even is a bug reoport for the stable ports and the release script thing. IIRC opened by gevaerts not too long ago 09.50.47 # I tihnk funman just linked to it :) 09.51.14 # but I tinhk the problem is more than we shouldnt be calling ports stable untill a release has been done for it anyway 09.51.17 # ah, should have read all the way to the end... :| 09.51.27 # Yes. Formalising "no stable promotions outside release time' would be a fix though 09.55.26 # would this Codec2 thing be useful for our voicefiles? 09.55.51 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@62.87.184.82) 09.56.05 # kugel: what's the story with renaming rockbox.zip to libmisc.so in the apk? 09.57.17 # some sort of workaround for apkbuilder limitations? 09.57.33 # .so files are the only extra files in an apk 09.57.46 # pixelma: translation committed in r28105 looks ok to me. 09.57.47 # +allowed 09.58.13 # kugel: ok 09.58.25 # b0hoon: thanks for checking :) 09.58.31 # (which you can access with file i/o spo) 09.58.49 # a/spo/api/ 10.00.07 # kugel: what was the story about the list you posted yesterday (pastie link) about some SVN ignore or somesuch, what should be done with it? 10.01.23 Quit hebz0rl__ (Read error: Operation timed out) 10.01.46 # adding them to svn ignore would be nice 10.02.03 Join hebz0rl__ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-216-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.02.39 # is this a file somewhere? 10.02.55 # probably not 10.03.09 # svn pe svn:ignore 10.03.25 # I don't know actually 10.03.30 # in git it's a file, definitely simpler ;) 10.03.48 # ah, so it's an SVN property 10.03.53 # pixelma: svn pe svn:ignore folder/ 10.06.58 # ok, I'll look into it later today 10.16.27 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 10.19.21 # JdGordon|: ping 10.19.31 # hey 10.19.44 # can you look at do_setting_from_menu() : oldval is unused 10.20.33 # oh right! I had an obvjection with your email 10.20.44 # specifically that unused vars are a sure sign of a bug... 10.21.07 # they are *probably* bugs, but just as likely missing or not fully implemented features :) 10.21.08 # they are sure a worth warning at least, i fixed an android bug thanks to them 10.21.30 # if this missing or incomplete feature is not documented it's a bug in itself 10.22.02 # fair enough :) yeah that one can just be removed 10.22.14 # funman: what Android bug? 10.22.44 Quit t3mpp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.23.02 # database 10.23.14 # oh right 10.23.28 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@skatol.ch.pw.edu.pl) 10.25.50 # New commit by 03funman (r28132): parse_sap_header(): remove write-only variable 10.25.54 # New commit by 03funman (r28133): lang_load(): ignore unused field from the lang file 10.26.20 # does that break lang compatability? 10.27.44 # r28132 build result: All green 10.27.52 # no but we could remove that from the format if breaking compatibility is ok 10.27.59 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.28.57 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 10.29.19 # r28133 build result: All green 10.29.50 # the warning in selection_to_val() is ony because of ASCENDING_INT_SETTING #ifdef 10.32.20 Join JdGord [0] (~jdg@pa58-109-184-69.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 10.32.51 # New commit by 03funman (r28134): eq menu: remove write-only variable present since r8606 10.34.30 # r28134 build result: All green 10.34.55 # JdGordon: did you try this Codec2 ? 10.35.35 # No. Just read the /. Articfle and its site 10.36.01 # Seems like rockbox would be an ideal testbed for it 10.36.10 # the bitrate is very low, it makes me doubt it would be suitable 10.36.33 # Well half oglf it anyway 10.44.20 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.50.13 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@141.45.204.222) 10.54.11 # another bug: graphical eq doesn't speak changes 10.59.29 # New commit by 03funman (r28135): playback_callback(): remove write-only old_repeat_mode ... 11.00.52 Quit francesco_ (Remote host closed the connection) 11.01.13 # r28135 build result: All green 11.02.15 # JdGordon: so what about do_setting_from_menu() ? 11.02.32 # Remove it 11.03.35 # funman: I *believe* sound settings don't speak changes on purpose so that you can hear the effect. Or do you mean only when leaving the screen? 11.04.02 # pixelma: i'm not sure but i see the unit being changed is tracked in "voice_unit", presumably to be spoken 11.04.24 # New commit by 03funman (r28136): do_setting_from_menu(): remove write-only variables 11.04.37 # Iirc voice doesn't work in low latency mode? Or something like that which is needed for those settings? 11.04.52 # low latency? 11.05.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.06.05 # r28136 build result: All green 11.06.08 # Pcmbuf or something. On phone so can't get the actual name :) 11.06.30 # so that you can hear the sound changes immediately 11.06.55 # I'd be actually annoyed when voice would always tell me -40dB, -41dB etc. when changing sound settings, it would be destracting 11.07.31 # s/when/while 11.08.33 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 11.08.52 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-151-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.08.53 # and distracting 11.10.04 # New commit by 03funman (r28137): eq menu: remove write-only variable 11.11.30 # http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/bloat/ 11.12.38 # funman: nice widget 11.12.41 # r28137 build result: All green 11.12.57 # it's on http://github.com/martine/webtreemap 11.15.27 # funman: cool!!! 11.15.48 # ehh - today is a black day - my HD200 stopped connecting with USB, HD300 has broken CF core power supply step-down converter 11.16.06 # wodz: ouch! 11.20.24 Join loveless [0] (~loveless@193.99.145.170) 11.22.33 Part loveless 11.22.54 # New commit by 03zagor (r28138): Polished the makefile a bit. 11.24.29 # r28138 build result: All green 11.24.34 # http://altair.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/clipv1-bloat/demo/demo.html 11.24.44 Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@95.86.74.243) 11.25.13 # Zagor: I explicitly removed the zip dependency a while ago 11.25.22 # funman: that does look useful... 11.25.26 # kugel: oh, why? 11.25.26 # not sure if BSS is here 11.26.01 # That's cool 11.26.46 # funman: it doesn't look as if BSS is there I'd say 11.27.58 # see now that is almost useful! 11.28.03 # The total is close to our binsize numbers 11.28.19 # binsize is 380644 bytes 11.29.07 # Zagor: because it's always made ( see also r28068) 11.29.08 # anyone want to completly redo the GUI? that ends up being maybe 65% of the apps binsize 11.29.25 # let's throw that and use only voice based interface 11.30.00 # "ipod shuffle" mode? :P 11.31.37 # Zagor: it essentially means libmisc is always extracted, which is annoying 11.31.42 # funman: great, now add a slider for time! 11.32.02 # kugel: extracted? you mean copied? 11.32.36 # rasher: i know nothing to html & al 11.32.50 # it is a fabulous map just for finding your way around the code 11.32.50 # http://altair.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/clipv1-bloat/demo/demo.html < shows BSS (i think) 11.33.34 # Zagor: It's extracted at stsrtup, but only if it is newer 11.33.43 # ram usage is 617696 = 603.2kB, not 612.2kB like the thing says (rounding error?) 11.33.44 Join drizztbsd [0] (~quassel@82.84.103.11) 11.33.47 # startup* 11.34.00 # kugel: right. but I think we can assume updated android builds will have updated rockbox code 99% of the time 11.35.37 # in fact, most of the time is only the binary changed 11.35.57 # "the binary"? 11.36.09 # ohh, I'm silly 11.36.20 # I'm confusing the libs/zips 11.36.25 # you're right 11.36.35 # libmisc has themes&codecs 11.37.11 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@141.45.206.120) 11.37.23 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 11.37.23 # having symbol names inside files would be nice too 11.37.27 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@141.45.206.120) 11.37.30 Quit kugel (Changing host) 11.37.31 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.42.04 # kugel: why INT_GPIOA() doesn't have interrupt("IRQ") attribute? 11.42.19 # dunno 11.42.42 Join Gabe_G23 [0] (~gabe@bzflag/player/GabrielG) 11.44.54 # Zagor: make apk will have the latest binary, making a new zip for make apk means that libmisc.so always has a new file stamp, and that it's always extracted. that's very annoying when during development 11.45.15 # kugel: I agree. I'll revert it. 11.45.49 # however we need to think if some way around this for the regular builds 11.46.07 # can't the build system do make zip && make apk? 11.47.40 # yeah I guess we do want a new zip in every build then 11.49.26 # alternatively we could add a intelligent prerequisite for zip, but I'm not sure if it's worth it 11.49.41 Join giovanni_ [0] (~giovanni@93.37.244.81) 11.52.22 # I would like to promote the ondas builds to unstable 11.53.05 # giovanni_: is the TargetStatus table accurate? 11.53.49 # it lists many things as untested for vx767 11.54.05 # Zagor: for the vx747/vx777 yes it is 11.54.24 # don't know about vx767 11.55.13 # so we still don't have access to the internal storage? 11.55.23 # no 11.55.34 # only SD 11.56.43 # as far as I remember there is problem that we don't know FTL OF uses 11.57.15 # yes, mcuelenaere knows about this kind of things 11.57.26 # kugel: ah only irq_handler() needs this 11.58.13 # giovanni_: but the vx747/777 boots to the sdcard and works as normal against it? 11.59.43 # funman: I guess I just forgot about adding it when I moved the function 11.59.45 # can't understand what you mean... rockbox boots from the sd card 12.00.13 # giovanni_: I'm just asking if it is generally usable for non-devs 12.00.34 # oh yes, I'm not a dev 12.00.50 # then I guess I agree with you 12.00.54 # users just needed an sd card 12.00.58 Quit utanapischti (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.01.30 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Leaving.) 12.01.55 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@109.250.21.49) 12.02.21 # kugel: nope none of the others functions need it 12.02.30 # they are normal functions called from irq_handler() 12.02.58 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.15.44 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 12.36.35 Quit togetic (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.43.09 Join edboyer93 [0] (eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 12.43.14 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 12.52.49 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.05.24 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 13.05.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.14.26 Quit JdGordon (Quit: Leaving.) 13.15.19 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.18.25 Join loveless [0] (~loveless@193.99.145.170) 13.19.46 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC56DF0.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.35.04 Join Jaykay_ [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC56C3E.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.37.05 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.37.15 Nick Jaykay_ is now known as Jaykay (~chatzilla@p5DC56C3E.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.45.08 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.45.46 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g227184241.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.46.42 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.46.58 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE3A51.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.49.04 Join Jaykay_ [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC56C8B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.51.03 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.51.15 Nick Jaykay_ is now known as Jaykay (~chatzilla@p5DC56C8B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.53.12 Quit Jaykay (Client Quit) 14.02.13 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.08.37 Join ClashTheBunny [0] (c72ec6e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.46.198.232) 14.08.42 # Hi 14.13.39 # I was just stopping by to see if I could get my Wiki account approved 14.14.24 # Well, added to the WikiUsersGroup. I am RandallMason on the wiki. 14.14.52 # I would like to edit the MPEGPlayer page to include the latest version of VLC's transcode options. 14.15.11 # ClashTheBunny: one second 14.15.14 # url has changed to dst for the destination file and --sout is now :sout. 14.15.20 # Oh, thanks. 14.17.15 # done 14.17.30 # hmm 14.17.45 # does Randal really have two 'l' in it? 14.17.59 # because the wiki doesn't think you exist 14.18.40 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.18.51 # My Randall does :-) 14.19.04 # can you give me the url to your wiki page then ? 14.21.19 # I'm really sorry, NoScript was messing with the reg page. 14.21.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RandallMason 14.22.23 # ok - you're golden now :D 14.23.59 # Thanks so much. 14.31.35 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-227-89.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 14.33.00 # I have a patch which adds (real) keyboard support to the lists in the sdl app... I'm using ACTION_RAWKEYBOARD and HAVE_RAWKEYBOARD as the defines.. any ideas for better names? this would really only give us ASCII (obviously) 14.36.33 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@24-148-89-52.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 14.52.52 Quit loveless (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.01.05 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@46.115.45.133) 15.02.56 Quit krazykit (Quit: whoops) 15.03.09 Join webguest [0] (~563410a4@giant.haxx.se) 15.03.17 Join krazykit [0] (~kkit@24-148-89-52.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 15.05.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.05.50 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133117137.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 15.05.57 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-151-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.06.36 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.09.23 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 15.09.44 # I'm heading out also, thanks so much GodEater 15.16.14 Quit DerPapst1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.17.59 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-151-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.18.46 Join loveless [0] (~loveless@gatekeeper.heise.de) 15.26.51 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.30.46 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.31.37 Quit webguest (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.35.53 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 15.36.25 # What is our policy about typedef? Do we remove typedefs from imported code? 15.37.09 # We tend not to touch imported code too much 15.39.13 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.39.14 # I was thinking about adding support for png in core (to solve problem of gigant theme files for Raaa) and code from apps/plugings/imageviewer/png is heavly typedefed 15.43.16 # * AlexP asks wodz the question he is sure to get before very long 15.43.20 # How big is it? 15.43.30 # big what? 15.43.54 # binsize increase of png in core 15.44.12 # dunno - it just an idea currently :-) 15.44.18 # :) 15.44.22 # s/it/it is/ 15.48.45 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.49.16 Quit ClashTheBunny (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.55.09 Quit loveless (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.55.19 # it's unpredictable how much themes as png save, depending how the image is made and what it shows. It also only saves storage wise as far as I understand, not when loaded 15.55.35 Quit b0hoon (Remote host closed the connection) 15.57.01 # or better: "the images are" and "what they show" 15.59.37 # I doubt you gain much, someone could try though 15.59.56 # sum of object sizes compiled for ipod video is 56kB, there is some plugin specific stuff in this so I estimate ~50kB binsize delta 16.00.22 # having patch to try doesn't harm I would say 16.01.03 # I don't mean a patch at the moment. Just saving the BMPs of some themes as PNGs 16.01.20 # the easiest test is to take cabbiev2 for big sizes and compress it 16.01.24 # hehe 16.04.28 Join kugel [0] (~AndChat@g231104005.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.04.54 # another downside I guess is that PNGs would need to be uncompressed when the theme loads and even if it doesn't take too long it can add a noticeable delay to boot time 16.07.17 # on 1GHz smartphone I think this is not the problem 16.08.46 # Not all smartphones are 1GHz :) 16.09.43 # for cabbiev2 320x480x16 compressing graphics to png reduce size from 937326 bytes to 158085 (almost 6 times smaller) 16.10.31 # That's still storage space. Is 700K storage space woth 60K RAM? 16.11.16 # If we choose to support multiple resolutions I think its worth 16.11.42 Join MatthewWilkes [0] (~matthewwi@91-64-130-163-dynip.superkabel.de) 16.12.14 # for regular DAPs I don't see any benefit 16.13.03 # Hy guys, I'm considering buying a new iPod/music player and I'd be interested in putting RockBox on it, are http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipodvideo all of the themes, or are there others lurking around the internet? 16.13.23 # I guess storage is not that important here, more bandwidth when downloading the app 16.13.55 # crazy idea: how about adding an online theme browser/downloader to the android port 16.14.05 # kugel mentioned once that some android devices are quite tight in storage space 16.14.12 # MatthewWilkes: They are the ones we know about, no idea if others have some somewhere 16.14.36 # MatthewWilkes: I don't know. But it's relatively easy to make your own 16.15.49 # AlexP: Ok, I only ask because from what I've seen of the latest iPods they have a pretty damn sexy UI, and that page looked a little disappointing tbh 16.16.02 # You can always make your own 16.16.08 # These are all user contributed 16.16.31 # MatthewWilkes: we don't run on the latest ipods anyway, so that's a false comparison :) 16.16.50 # we're programmers, not turtleneck designers ;) 16.17.16 # Zagor: hehe :) 16.17.22 # gevaerts: Oh, don't you? 16.17.39 # I haven't used an iPod in quite a few generations, is 5G not the current? 16.17.43 # MatthewWilkes: See www.rockbox.org 16.18.09 # MatthewWilkes: Er, no - Nano is on the 5th gen by now, the big one has 3 gens of classic I think 16.18.15 # We are a few generations behind 16.18.30 Join TheSeven [0] (578b86bd@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 16.18.59 # Sorry, I don't know what you mean by classic - hmm - this makes the choice harder then 16.19.36 # it is the model name of newer big ipods 16.19.58 # ok 16.20.20 # MatthewWilkes: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1353 16.20.37 # it's a jungle. and that page doesn't even include their latest models. 16.23.20 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.23.57 Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@95.86.74.243) 16.25.16 # riight, ok 16.25.54 # So, no full size iPods within the last 4 years, basically? 16.26.30 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.27.21 # well, 3 years 16.27.25 # but yeah 16.28.27 # sure, ok, in that case, is there any supported player that's particularly popular? 16.28.42 # I was only thinking iPod for the pretty, I'd rather have FLAC playback than pretty 16.29.45 # I'd say the most popular recent target is probably the Sansa Fuze 16.30.06 # The current ones are really just the fuze and clip+ I think (?) 16.31.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.32.19 Quit user890104 () 16.34.04 # hmm, ok, thanks, seems to be reasonably priced 16.34.13 # Something to think about, anyway :) 16.35.06 # There were some on woot yesterday :) 16.36.10 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.36.14 # gevaerts: I live in Germany, I'd guess it would be cheaper/easier to buy here than deal with customs 16.36.19 # That, or wait for the SoC mentor summit ;) 16.37.21 # you're going to the summit? 16.37.37 Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) 16.38.16 # Yeah, I'm org admin for Plone, you rockbox lot are quite visible in #gsoc so it has been in the back of my mind to try it out for a while 16.41.32 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@12.169.218.14) 16.46.36 Quit TheSeven (Quit: Page closed) 16.48.15 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 16.48.30 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 16.49.29 # MatthewWilkes: gevaerts and scorche are going there from our camp methinks 16.49.55 # Bagder: Ah, cool, I assumed scorche would be 16.50.05 # Don't think I've met gevaerts 16.50.25 # I haven't been there before 16.51.56 Join kadoban_ [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 16.51.57 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.52.31 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.56.23 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 16.56.37 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.57.43 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.58.37 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.00.43 Part LinusN 17.01.02 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 17.01.22 Part Zagor 17.01.42 Quit dfkt_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.02.15 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.02.30 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE3A51.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.05.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.58 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.15.42 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 17.18.20 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.26.46 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.27.01 Join engwan [0] (~engwan@112.202.22.199) 17.28.43 # Hi, how can i flash rockbox into a iRiver h120 with a broken hdd? 17.29.34 # do i need to buy another hdd? or can i just buy the ide to cf adapter and use a cf card? Does the CF adapter work even with stock firmware? 17.29.54 # engwan: I don't think you can, you need to get into Rockbox (from disk) in order to use Rockbox to flash Rockbox to flash 17.30.02 # But without a disk, what is the point? 17.30.05 # Oh, CF 17.30.27 Quit dfkt_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.30.33 # Does either Rockbox or the OF not immediately work with CF? 17.31.00 # i read that the CF works with rockbox, not sure with the OF 17.31.15 # CF with Rockbox in general is fine 17.31.30 # thats why i asked.. coz if OF doesnt work then i have to buy an HDD just to flash to rockbox 17.31.32 # then use CF 17.31.40 # waste of money for HDD just to flash 17.31.47 # But to install Rockbox, the OF needs to read the patched OF from disk 17.31.55 # If it can use CF, then OK 17.31.58 # yeah, thats my problem 17.32.02 # But I haven't tried this myself 17.32.08 # has anyone tried using CF with OF? 17.32.32 # so i can read the patched firmware from the cf card, and install rockbox 17.37.31 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.37.52 # engwan: Check the forums 17.39.20 # i did.. most of the mods there were done with players which already have rockbox on them, so detecting the CF wasnt much of a problem 17.41.07 Quit MatthewWilkes (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 17.42.06 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.49.30 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 17.51.30 Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@95.86.74.243) 17.54.08 # How long sansa fuze v2 will be stable? 17.54.40 # it's safe to install it now? 17.56.45 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.58.46 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-151-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.00.11 Quit togetic (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0) 18.00.26 Join togetic [0] (~togetic@unaffiliated/ibuffy) 18.05.09 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 18.05.16 Quit xnyhps (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.06.33 Join Gottwik [0] (~bca70fea@giant.haxx.se) 18.08.45 # Anybody who can modify rockbox? 18.11.51 # Depending on what you're looking for someone to do, that could both be a ridiculously low amount or a ridiculously high amount or anywhere in between. Just saying "I have money, anybody here program" isn't likely to get you a lot of good responses though. 18.12.12 # Hello Llorean 18.12.31 # w 18.12.47 # We would like rockbox to make a sansa clip work as audio tour device 18.13.04 # basically remove 90% of features like settings or browsing songs 18.14.06 # device would turn on, select language, select sight and listen. this plus volume control 18.15.20 # my guess would be that modifying menu structure would be most of the work 18.15.21 # That's something well within the possibility of doing. Sometimes people show up with offers of cash and crazy requests. I'd honestly suggest sending the idea to the rockbox development mailing list though 18.15.39 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.15.41 # It will be much more likely more people will see your request. 18.16.16 # I've sent an email to the developer mailing list over a week ago with no response 18.16.31 # you have? i didn't see one. 18.16.35 # Nor I. 18.16.46 # what was the subject/sender? 18.16.47 # wrong address maybe? 18.17.11 # subject is Business offer for a rockbox developer 18.17.18 # Did you sign up for the list first? 18.17.21 # are you subscribed to the list? 18.17.22 # Gottwik: You need to be subscribed or the mailing list software won't let it through 18.17.32 # rasher: it should send a bounce, though, no? 18.17.42 # oh, that would explain things 18.17.48 # Torne: those are easily overlooked these days 18.17.58 # probably spam filter got the bounce 18.18.39 # would anybody be interested or should i subscribe and send the email one more time? 18.19.10 # if it's just a one time thing, that you basically want a single custom build with almost all features removed 18.19.15 # then that's pretty easy, yes 18.19.25 # and someone would just ahve to take the time to do it 18.19.40 Join xnyhps [0] (~xnyhps@xnyhps.nl) 18.19.43 # that is correct 18.19.56 # the device would be sansa clip v2 18.20.24 # subscribe to the list and send it 18.20.43 # I'd definitely recommend sending it to the mailing list. 18.20.51 # ok, thank you very much 18.21.22 # whem sansa fuze will be stable? 18.21.27 # glad I tried the irc before opting for other solutions 18.21.38 # hwo long? 18.21.42 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A99EE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.21.49 # HaimN: When it happens. There is no timeline. 18.22.27 # Llorean: Have suggested? 18.22.40 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 18.23.11 # how stable is fuze v2 now 18.23.13 # ? 18.23.55 # I don't know how stable it is now. I don't have one. 18.24.28 # ok, thanks! 18.25.37 Quit Gottwik (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.28.24 Join nls_web [0] (~82f3aef0@giant.haxx.se) 18.33.24 Quit nls_web (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.33.37 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 18.34.38 Join nls_web [0] (~82f3aef0@giant.haxx.se) 18.34.56 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-174-240.student.uu.se) 18.34.56 Quit n1s (Changing host) 18.34.56 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 18.35.07 Quit nls_web (Client Quit) 18.42.07 Nick hebz0rl__ is now known as hebz0rl (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-216-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.52.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.52.51 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fca21.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.53.30 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.53.51 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.54.29 # Torne: I think it could even be a plugin started via autorock 18.55.22 # removing most of the features doesn't necessarily help, it could make it worse because builds with features removed are completely untested 18.57.18 # kugel: You could just default it to starting in the file browser, and remove the keymaps for any buttons that take you to menus. 18.57.31 # Then have the only thing in the root of the player be files for each of the "locations" or whatever 18.58.53 # I assume these "locations" should be translated, so the file browser wouldn't help then 19.00.05 # That's probably not the best assumption to make 19.00.07 # I've never used an audio guide in a museum (that's goal IIUC) so I don't kow how this works 19.00.14 # If it's an audio tour, the audio will need to be in the new "translated" language anyway 19.00.19 # So you'd just have a folder for each language. 19.00.51 # But I admit, I'm just thinking bare bones here. 19.01.01 Quit giovanni_ (Quit: Sto andando via) 19.01.08 # They may want some advanced things, such as set tour playlists for different regions of the museum or whatever. 19.01.25 # Either way though, it's surely well within the capabilities of most contributors. 19.01.42 # I think so too 19.05.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.12.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.12.03 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.12.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.17.54 # kugel: are theme graphics loaded from sd or are installed into internal memory on android? 19.18.13 # internal 19.18.29 # well, the shipped themes. other themes would be installed on the sd card 19.18.58 # so if we support multiple resolutions build all this will be in internal storage right? 19.19.19 # if so I think png support in core will be very interesting 19.20.16 # wodz: wouldn't something simpler like storing the themes compressed (zip) and unpacking only the one in use be as good? 19.22.51 # wodz: it would certainly be nice 19.23.33 # the png plugin doesn't do greyscale yet, I think that's a problem 19.23.42 # png is already in rb (as part of imageviewer) 19.23.54 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.137.111) 19.24.05 # png doesn't make much sense for low res greyscale 19.24.58 # but there's jpeg for greyscale, and I guess that if we have png in core we also would like to support .png albumart 19.25.51 # (which implies resizing on load) 19.26.13 # is png aa used anywhere? 19.26.23 # I've seen it 19.26.28 # Why would we want .png in core when we've already got .jpg? 19.26.44 # Is theme size a problem on android? 19.27.11 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-176-225-136.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 19.28.02 # with a single theme no, but IIUC wodz wants a resolution independant build and then a theme for each resolution 19.28.45 # does anyone know if there's a technical reason we don't support jpeg for the theme images? 19.28.49 # Would this be disableable? The estimate of 60k in core seems quite high vs. disk space 19.29.08 # How many common android resolutions are there? Would other technical measures be an alternative? 19.29.08 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.29.10 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.29.19 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-207-191.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.30.14 # For example, the backdrop is just a gradient plus a small "Rockbox" logo right? Could we add "gradient backrdops" that don't use an image (which can slim down some existing themes) and the ability to combine smaller images into backdrops via a backdrop .wps-type file that just positions them? Since most of the devices are probably decently high rez, you can reuse a lot of images for the .wps too, right, just repositioned to changed aspect ratios? 19.30.22 # if we only use it on android we don't need it in the core, we can just use the (upstream) shared library libpng 19.30.35 # ah, that sounds interesting 19.30.40 # I mean the main problem is the backdrop right now, and we're pretty limited on that anyway and could use improving (must match screen size, can't use a smaller centered image, or anything like that) 19.31.06 # Then again, if it's an android-only solution, it's not too big a deal I guess. 19.31.15 # But I expect people will ask "why can only android use .png in themes?" pretty quickly 19.31.16 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.31.58 Quit Rondom_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.34.55 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-210-238-215.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 19.35.23 # it looks like all androids have a libpng already on the device but it's not available for apps 19.48.24 Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) 19.54.03 # How stable is the fuze version 2 stuff? 19.54.32 Join Strife89DS [0] (~nds@207.144.201.128) 19.55.12 # State the details again, please? 19.56.04 # I have an ssh client here that I can try something with. 19.57.02 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 19.58.06 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797CF30.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.58.12 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.111) 19.59.50 Join bertrik_ [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.59.54 Quit bertrik_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.01.52 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 20.02.06 Join Rondom_ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-168-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.02.42 Join Jerom1 [0] (~heidi@ks27625.kimsufi.com) 20.04.05 Quit Jerom (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.05.22 Quit Strife89DS (Quit: Going home.) 20.07.13 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-175-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.08.03 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20.11.19 Quit Rondom_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.12.45 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.12.56 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 20.15.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@mey202.wlan.design.upenn.edu) 20.19.46 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 20.20.02 Join Rondom_ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-203-132.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.25.31 Join stooo [0] (~sto@f052208182.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.26.16 Join s1gma_ [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 20.26.30 Quit stooo (Client Quit) 20.29.11 Quit _s1gma (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.29.53 # current png code compiled with -Os instead of -O3 gives 47kB vs 56kB 20.30.50 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-205-246.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.33.20 Quit togetic (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0) 20.34.17 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.34.22 Quit Rondom_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.36.49 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.39.52 Join madalu [0] (~user@unaffiliated/madalu) 20.41.41 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 20.42.44 Join alexandros [0] (~4f83576a@giant.haxx.se) 20.43.02 # hi hi people 20.43.17 # wodz: for comparison, jpeg in core added 15KB on arm :) 20.43.17 # i have a question 20.44.27 # is it possible to install RB in fuze with 02.03.33 FW? 20.44.31 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 20.44.45 Join Rondom_ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-193-030.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.44.59 # That is what I have, I see a unstable port for fuze v2 20.45.04 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 20.45.09 # gevaerts: I am inspecting the possibilities. 20.45.11 # alexandros: as far as I can see, yes 20.45.28 # wodz: IIRC Unhelpful worked on that a *lot* before committing 20.45.50 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuze <--- fuze v2 20.46.15 # alexandros: you might have to use the manual install method though. Rockbox Utility may not handle the newer firmware versions yet 20.50.00 # link? 20.50.25 # That should be described in the manual 20.55.42 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 20.56.50 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-196-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.57.52 # gevaerts: mostly to shoehorn it into the callback API used by the scaler. 20.59.53 # i need help with 2.2.3 step 21.00.19 # btw i dont have any patched.bin file 21.00.22 Quit Rondom_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.00.47 # Unhelpful: why do we still have a separate jpeg plugin and don't use the core decoder? 21.01.23 # kugel: somebody needs to do the work, and the jpeg plugin caches files in memory, but the core decoder can only decode direct from disk. 21.02.27 # that's all? 21.02.45 # pluginlib contains a decoder built from the same source that can decode from memory already, so that gets you the source consolidation. :) 21.02.53 # part of the embedded albumart patch is to load jpeg from ram 21.03.10 # wodz: Object file size doesn't tell much because of symbols etc 21.03.31 # kugel: ...why? :P 21.03.56 # because "core decoder can only decode direct from disk" 21.04.02 # In order to see what it actually adds, you need to integrate it (in a preliminary way) and check the size difference after linking 21.05.01 # kugel: Not all builds have jpeg in core, but still have the jpeg viewer 21.05.07 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 21.05.22 Join Rondom_ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-144-087.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.05.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.05.37 # ah yes, right 21.07.04 # I think we should add all decoders to the core in a codec like fashion (i.e. the actual decoders are loaded at runtime) 21.08.36 # Do you think that's a good idea? 21.09.02 # You still need to set aside a fixed buffer to load them, large enough to accomodate the biggest one 21.09.17 # kugel: there is no good reason for embedded AA to require decode from memory. none. 21.09.19 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 21.09.33 # Unhelpful: latency! 21.09.48 # gevaerts: it's still reading from disk first! :P 21.10.17 # Yes, but that's asynchronously. You don't have to wait for that when the track switches :) 21.10.22 # Unhelpful: except the buffering code already has audio file in memory 21.10.54 # kugel: if the tag is at the beginning anyway 21.10.58 # Buffering doesn't buffer tags 21.11.01 # kugel: is it guaranteed to have all of the needed portion in memory already? :P 21.11.28 # What if the buffer space is smaller than the jpeg data? 21.11.34 Quit s1gma_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.11.34 # It reads and decodes the tags when starting to buffer the file (or even before, on swcodec) 21.12.07 # buffer reads the whole audio file, I don't think it strips the tags 21.12.16 # It certainly does 21.12.42 # Otherwise one mp3 I once received would have caused a huge gap during playback on my Recorder 21.12.46 # and it doesn't read the whole file if it's larger than the buffer. the AA reader needs to do its own reading IMO. 21.13.05 # This file was 7MB in total, 4MB of that being tags including embedded aa 21.13.11 # amiconn: what, id3v2 tag size of the buffer? ;) 21.13.20 # not stripping the tags doesn't mean playing them back 21.13.27 # Unhelpful: id3v2 several times the buffer size 21.13.53 # but I'm not too sure, I might be wrong 21.13.56 # (the very same, actually quite small, jpeg - added 100 (!) times) 21.14.02 # don't we also have disk-block cache? if we "just read" the tag data won't read be very very fast? 21.14.26 # nope 21.14.39 # ew. :/ 21.14.45 # Unhelpful: so why don't we support embedded aa it right now already? 21.15.02 # We have a fat cache, and dir handles buffer a few sectors of the opened dir 21.15.02 # kugel: somebody needs to do the work! ;) 21.15.16 # I thought there was a larger issue? 21.15.20 # Unhelpful: so all we need is basically the metadata reader telling the AA system a filename and offset? 21.15.21 # File access only buffers the current sector 21.15.22 # ah, so we only cache metadata, and only a little. 21.15.49 # gevaerts: and providing a pointer to a filter function that looks like read() but preprocesses data in a manner appropriate to the tag. 21.16.10 # i double clicked mbamsboot.exe and nothing happend 21.16.40 # Unhelpful: this is in case data might be escaped? 21.16.44 Quit panni_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.16.49 # gevaerts: yes 21.17.10 # gevaerts: more like *because* data *will be* escaped. id3v2 is the *only* format afaik where we can know it *might* not be. 21.17.25 # Afaik id3v2 needs to "unsync" data (so that there is no ssequence in it that looks like an mpeg frame sync) 21.17.26 Join Rondom [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-164-235.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.17.35 # for vorbis you're supposed to base64 binary data for tags 21.17.43 # because tags are required to be utf8 21.17.43 # what does "escaped" mean in this context? 21.18.40 # alexandros: have you tried just following the installation instructions in the manual? 21.19.27 Quit Rondom_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.19.44 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@static.225.178.40.188.clients.your-server.de) 21.23.03 Join saratoga [0] (9803c22e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.194.46) 21.23.30 # now i have error from mbamsboot and it says could not open bootloader-fuze.sansa 21.23.54 # alexandros: post the command log 21.24.03 # into pastebin.ca or pastebin.com 21.26.01 Join Jerom [0] (~heidi@95.171.137.111) 21.26.15 # i did 21.26.27 # btw im running w7 21.26.41 # does it matters 21.27.13 Quit Jerom1 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.27.16 # he means show us exactly what you type and what the result was by pasting the output from your command prompt into www.pastebin.ca then giving us the link 21.27.45 # alexandros: copy and paste the complete result of what you ran into pastebin, i'll look at it, and then tell you whats wrong 21.27.46 # http://pastebin.ca/1946056 21.28.23 # can you also do a "dir" so i can see your files? 21.28.56 # u mean a screenshot? 21.29.02 # no, "dir" 21.29.08 # run that command and paste the output 21.29.45 # by the way, did anyone get their GSOC shirts yet? 21.34.39 # saratoga: nope 21.34.50 # ok cool 21.34.55 # i'm still bitter about not getting one in 2008 21.38.21 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 21.38.23 # ok i made a pached.bin file 21.38.36 Join Rondom_ [0] (~quassel@dslb-084-057-190-118.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.40.27 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 21.41.59 Part toffe82 21.42.13 # yay i installed it 21.43.07 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.161) 21.43.25 Join GuyllFyre [0] (~480ac7d2@giant.haxx.se) 21.44.14 # Not sure if any admins are here who maintain the firmware downloads but there's a problem. 21.44.24 # http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.6/rockbox-sansaclip-3.6.zip is not found on the server in this location. 21.44.31 # 404 21.44.53 # Yes, we know. There is no 3.6 for the sansa clip, because it wasn't stable yet when 3.6 was released 21.45.10 # Then there should be a note of some sort for those of us attempting to install it. 21.45.14 # Only the script that builds the index page doesn't handle that case well 21.47.15 # Well, hopefully it'll go back to original firmware without issue. Any ideas when RockBox WILL be ready for the Clip? 21.47.32 # It is ready 21.47.36 # Use a current build 21.47.49 # Isn't 3.6 the current build? 21.48.01 # no, that's the latest release 21.48.08 # * GuyllFyre rolls his eyes. 21.48.13 # There is a new current build everytime the source is chabged 21.48.15 # Maybe someone should jsut fix the installer. 21.48.15 # *changed 21.48.44 Quit GuyllFyre (Quit: CGI:IRC) 22.02.35 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 22.03.02 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.33) 22.04.08 Join likemindead [0] (4715103a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.21.16.58) 22.09.22 # domonoky: ping 22.12.06 # lolz when i turn off it switched back to normal menu 22.12.16 # does rbutil actually try to install rockbox 3.6 to the clip, or was that guy just confused 22.13.28 # if we have a Rockbox 3.6 release then Rockbox Utility will try to install it 22.13.43 # If you select to install the release of course 22.14.19 # so basically we need a separate list of release and stable targets? 22.14.34 # or i guess just not make targets stable until they're released 22.18.26 # we do have separate lists. 22.18.50 # the targets are classified as stable, unstable and unusable. That is shown in the device selection dialog in Rockbox Utility 22.19.14 # it also checkes for the latest release available for the selected player. If there's a release then it can install the release. 22.19.37 # though there is currently no distinguishing done for Themes, Bootloaders, and various other additional stuff. 22.20.45 # according to Rockbox Utility the Clip is stable. 22.21.22 # yes, and the cgis assume that stable == released 22.21.47 # they do? I thought the release list is statically 22.22.27 # at least byhand.cgi does that 22.22.48 # ok, that explains why I saw a broken clip link earlier today 22.24.19 # bluebroth3r: I don't know if you saw my question yesterday - I was just wondering if there is anything holding back a rbutil release as there are more and more people with recent e.g. fuzes that it can't do 22.24.33 # Which I believe is already fixed in SVN? 22.24.42 # as for the questions about a new Rockbox Utility release: I'd really like to address FS#11496 first, but I guess it's more important to have a new release. I did a workaround (add an option to limit the threads to 1) but I can't really test taht. 22.24.57 # heh :) 22.25.00 # I might just commit that and push a new release. Any ideas on that issue? domonoky? 22.25.30 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng226.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.25.33 # * bluebroth3r goes installing the new Qt release on Mac 22.25.47 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 22.26.22 # bluebroth3r: My choice would be to work round it and release 22.27.03 # bluebroth3r: the ipod video 64mb handling is gone in svn? 22.27.03 # * bluebroth3r grumbles at those weird paths on OS X 22.27.08 # gevaerts: yes 22.29.24 Quit alexandros (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.36.05 Join DemonX [0] (~DemonX@pool-173-72-17-108.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) 22.39.00 Quit [sko] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.39.25 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.40.46 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 22.48.54 Join AndChat| [0] (~AndChat@g231104005.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.50.20 Quit AndChat| (Client Quit) 22.50.36 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 22.52.27 Quit edboyer93 () 22.52.59 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.54.17 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797CF30.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.57.16 Join edboyer93 [0] (eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 22.59.20 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p5797CF30.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.01.58 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.04.23 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.05.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.52 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@90-230-97-182-no112.tbcn.telia.com) 23.15.18 # * bluebroth3r grumbles 23.15.38 # changing the number of threads to 1 doesn't seem to actually change the number of threads used :( 23.17.20 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.22.02 # * kugel notices the following limit on his phone "apps/playlist_viewer.c:#define MAX_PLAYLIST_ENTRIES 200" 23.22.33 # rockbox can crash if you scroll very quickly in a playlist with over 200 entries 23.26.33 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 23.27.18 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 23.30.02 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 23.30.13 # anyone want to comment on that guys build errors using git on the forums? 23.30.18 # i have no idea what hes doing 23.32.22 # link? 23.32.26 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.33.09 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25777.msg172123;topicseen#msg172123 23.34.07 # saratoga: I suspect his checkout is broken due to the svn commit message editing, and that version.sh errors out because it asks git for the revision 23.34.19 # so he probably just needs to start over with SVN? 23.35.49 # as far as version, `git-svn info` can probably provide what is needed...but he'd need to modify the script or smth 23.38.45 Quit _s1gma (Quit: Leaving) 23.41.26 Quit ender` (Quit: Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I) 23.56.43 Quit Jerom (Read error: Connection reset by peer)