--- Log for 06.10.110 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.02.52 Quit Staphylo (Quit: Bye les gens =)) 00.02.55 Quit kugel (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 00.09.01 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 00.09.02 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.13.06 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.21.36 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host191-172-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.21.47 Quit Nausicaa (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.22.38 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.23.04 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.23.20 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE232C.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.24.43 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.31.14 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@adsl-75-57-186-248.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 00.36.54 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.57.30 Quit ender` (Quit: Kiss a pair of boobs and the movie's rated R. Chop them off and it's PG-13. -- Jack Nicholson (?)) 00.58.23 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.02.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.05.59 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-69-203-144-35.si.res.rr.com) 01.28.18 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 01.28.19 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 01.28.19 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.28.53 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@97-86-227-168.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 01.41.59 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.42.05 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 01.44.56 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.49.28 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.49.50 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-69-203-144-35.si.res.rr.com) 01.51.09 Join guymann [0] (~charles@66-159-174-177.adsl.snet.net) 01.58.04 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 01.58.12 Quit _s1gma (Quit: Leaving) 02.02.26 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.03.45 Part toffe82 02.04.57 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 02.20.43 Quit GodEater (Read error: Operation timed out) 02.20.43 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 02.20.48 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 02.20.48 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 02.20.48 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 02.23.57 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.25.22 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.45.11 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.48.21 Quit clone4crw (Remote host closed the connection) 02.52.02 Join soap__ [0] (~soap@lu-r1.connectionvpn.com) 03.02.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.07.20 Join mungewell [0] (~swoodkc@68.147.1.71) 03.07.49 # Hi. Is it possible to disable some features (such as Radio and Recording). I 03.08.18 Join help [0] (~Damarious@70.122.114.220) 03.08.18 # I'm setting up a Fuze for a 7 year old and these are just confusing/awkward. 03.08.42 # hello? 03.08.44 Nick help is now known as Guest64747 (~Damarious@70.122.114.220) 03.11.37 # hello? 03.11.37 # Guest64747: there was somebody complaining about missing modules not showing up in the menu, so I guess you could delete the rocks from your install but be prepared to restore it if that doesn't work 03.12.01 # also, not sure what is a separate module and what isn't, so it might not help in your case 03.12.20 # i have a quick ? 03.12.39 # oh sorry 03.12.48 # mungewell, no - it is not possible to disable menu items w/o compiling your own buid. 03.12.50 # I was answering mungewell I guess 03.12.55 # i have a sansa clip + and the usb support is disabled is there a way i can enable it 03.12.57 # sorry soap__ 03.13.00 # IF you want to do that, it is pretty straightforward. 03.13.21 # but the menus can not be customized. 03.14.16 # OK. Thanks. I might just set the 'Start Screen' to PictureFlow and suggest that she reboots if she gets lost in the menus.... 03.14.40 # in regards to tmzt's comment, .rocks are plugins and appear in the plugin menu, as opposed to the main menu items mungewell asked about. 03.15.12 # go "back" enough and you'll always end up in the main menu. 03.15.27 # it's not really that deep. 03.15.31 # i have a sansa clip + and the usb support is disabled in the rockbox firmware is there a way i can enable the usb port on there 03.17.36 # Going from memory the PictureFlow plugin worked differently when launched from Plugins/WPS Context menu. From plugin 'Play/Pause' selected the track (added to dynamic playlist) whereas from Context you have to use 'Right' to select track (which plays immediate, but Picture Flow doesn't return to WPS). Is this intentional, or a bug with the Fuze port? 03.17.39 # ??? 03.17.40 Join poop [0] (~soap@lu-r1.connectionvpn.com) 03.18.16 # Guest64747: You can hold Left when booting to boot original firmware. My clip will automatically boot OF when USB is connected... 03.18.53 # i want to enable it within rockbox 03.19.10 # the bootloader doesn't detect usb on clip+ yet? 03.20.08 # if in in the of it automatically connects to my computer but in the rock box firmware it wont allow me to connect 03.20.24 Quit t0rc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.21.55 # Guest64747: USB support for clip+ does not work yet, which is why it is still disabled 03.23.25 # Guest64747: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#Specific_problems 03.24.20 # it did in a previous firmware but it says it was disabled because it wasnt stable i dont need it stable i just need it to be able to work 03.26.45 # if it worked reliably it would be enabled 03.27.38 # Guest64747: it *does not* work yet. if you wish to help make it work, you can change a setting in the config file to enable USB and build your own build, but don't expect to be able to use it to copy files at this stage 03.28.02 Join ntryon [0] (~ntryon@42.interlockroc.net) 03.28.14 Join wth [0] (~soap@lu-r1.connectionvpn.com) 03.29.07 Quit poop (Quit: Leaving) 03.29.17 # thanks mc2739. Im kinda new to all of this but what cng. file would i actually alter to enable this because i wasnt able to find it in none of the base cng files. 03.29.29 Quit wth (Client Quit) 03.30.04 # Guest64747, you need to have a build enviroment set up. 03.30.25 # Guest64747: it is a config file in the source code (sansaclipplus.h) 03.30.26 # it isn't a .cfg file in the standard install, a config in the source code is what mc2739 is talking about 03.32.55 # ..mmmhhhmmm lol sorry to be bothering yall. do yall kno of any good enviroments and how do i find the source code? 03.33.17 # Rockbox provides the enviroment you need 03.34.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 03.34.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/CrossCompiler to build the enviroment and mc2739 beat me 03.35.37 Quit ntryon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.38.22 # ok thanks i think ill just wait or try to find the old firmware that had it enabled 03.38.27 # THANKS :D 03.41.36 Part Guest64747 03.42.42 Quit Gabe_G23 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.45.30 Join Gabe_G23 [0] (~gabe@bzflag/player/GabrielG) 03.45.31 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 03.48.34 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.52.31 Quit edboyer93 () 03.56.16 Join ntryon [0] (~ntryon@42.interlockroc.net) 04.01.13 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.03.50 Join Nausicaa [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.04.05 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 04.04.49 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 04.09.34 Quit engwan_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.12.23 # Guest64747: i saw you asked about Clip+ USB on the forums 04.13.04 # to be 100% clear, you're aware its not really usable right? so if you enable that its going to try and go into USB mode and then at best probably error out quickly, and at worst maybe corrupt your file system or set your house on fire ;) 04.14.04 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.14.04 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.10 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.14.10 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.14.20 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.24 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.16.52 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.22.50 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.52.48 # I had no idea that it would do that 04.53.05 # I'm waiting on it it work on my Clip v2 04.53.20 # Is the v1 always on the highest clocked setting? 04.53.48 # Nausicaa: no, it scales 05.00.31 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.02.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.02.16 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f7de0.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.11.02 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.235.80) 05.24.23 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 05.24.27 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.28.43 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (~felixbrun@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.33.54 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.34.10 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.42.43 Quit anewuser () 05.44.50 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.45.34 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7EDF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.06.42 Nick shai_ is now known as shia (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 06.07.42 Quit shia (Quit: Leaving) 06.12.21 # Mines is constantly at 8 hours 06.12.29 # the battery life at least 06.12.39 # I don't know if it was due to the cpu or whatever 06.14.19 # Nausicaa: what do you mean? 06.14.37 # Well the battery is always has 8 hours or less 06.14.47 # Is it the hardware battery? 06.15.00 # Or does rockbox just use that much more power on it currently? 06.17.14 # that run time is just the total battery time expected minus how long you've been running, more or less 06.17.34 # Hmm I didn't know that 06.17.40 # It says something different on my v2 06.18.07 # So I assumed wrong about the CPU being clocked to the hardest permanently, I always thought it was clocked there to prevent crashes and stuff haha 06.19.42 # fuze v2? 06.20.40 # Clip v2 06.25.05 # clipv2 still doesn't scale 06.25.12 # though i'm not sure if theres any real reason for that anymore 06.30.07 Quit ntryon (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 06.34.05 Join ntryon_ [0] (~ntryon@42.interlockroc.net) 06.34.48 Quit ntryon_ (Client Quit) 06.43.59 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-208-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) 06.51.31 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 07.02.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.24.07 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 07.25.42 Join Staphylo [0] (~Bullet@AMontsouris-159-1-57-18.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 07.36.50 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 07.38.25 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Leaving) 07.57.04 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CE56.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.10.32 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.17.32 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.32.02 Join desowin [0] (~desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 08.36.42 Quit Nausicaa (Disconnected by services) 08.37.11 Join Thanatos [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 08.37.18 Join drizztbsd_ [0] (~quassel@dynamic-adsl-78-12-154-193.clienti.tiscali.it) 08.38.14 Quit drizztbsd (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 08.38.48 Quit feisar- (Quit: leaving) 08.39.16 Join feisar- [0] (jljhook@sienikerho.com) 08.42.29 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 08.42.53 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@arch.tunnel.ipv6.estpak.ee) 08.45.33 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 08.48.54 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 08.49.09 Quit Guest66765 (Read error: No route to host) 08.49.30 Join timc [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 08.49.56 Nick timc is now known as Guest26371 (~tim@112.166.15.141) 08.50.00 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.50.38 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.50.58 Join spike_ [0] (~spike@75-120-129-183.dyn.centurytel.net) 08.53.06 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 08.53.45 Part Zagor 08.53.49 Quit spike__ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.54.01 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.56.59 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.02.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.07.48 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.12.37 # JdGordon: how do you know that the list (content) changed from within the list code? 09.13.37 # my pixel-accurate scrolling needs a way to reset the y offset when a new list is drawn 09.13.49 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 09.14.29 # you dont 09.15.10 # just reset whenever the selection == 0 09.15.25 # or (maybe) gui_synclist_init() is called 09.19.34 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 09.21.48 Quit Staphylo (Quit: Bye les gens =)) 09.23.49 # * JdGordon| wonders how hard it would be to popup a java window for text input instead of using rockboxs (rather shitty) vkeyboard on java? 09.23.57 # and how to do the same for the sdl app 09.26.15 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 09.28.10 # JdGordon: Is it correct that You have archos recorder? 09.28.53 # teru: ping 09.28.57 # I own one, but I dont have it here... its at home in Melbourne 09.29.11 # :/ 09.29.18 # wodz: pong 09.30.30 # wodz: pity you didnt ask me last week... I could have brought it here :/ 09.31.10 # teru: I have problems with buffer management in imageviewer plugin 09.32.17 # teru: If I do aligning of disp_buf the code 'works' on my mini1G but there are some display corruptions and sometimes it just hangs 09.33.10 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 09.33.17 # teru: Honestly I don't quite understand how this work together 09.34.47 # i'm not sure which part you are talking about. load_image or get_image or something else? 09.35.13 # wait a sec - I'll open the code 09.35.56 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@1.40.251.203) 09.39.59 Join fyre^OS [0] (~nnscript@cpe-69-203-144-35.si.res.rr.com) 09.40.01 # load_and_show() calls load_image() 09.40.25 Join lestatar_ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 09.40.26 # it passes ptr to buffer which decoder is free to use as I understand 09.40.37 # yes. 09.41.07 # now decoder uses this buffer and places decoded image at the begining 09.42.47 # at the end of load_image() there is set ptr to disp_buf and buf_size is updated 09.42.59 Quit lestatar (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.43.08 Nick lestatar_ is now known as lestatar (~chatzilla@cpe-72-229-41-214.nyc.res.rr.com) 09.43.45 Quit fyrestorm (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.43.49 # this disp_buf is needed for scaled down versions right? 09.44.10 # yes 09.44.36 # so this disp_buf has to be aligned 09.45.19 # what alignment is needed? FB_DATA_SZ or just 4? 09.46.43 # FB_DATA_SZ should be enough for color targets, and i think aligning is not needed for non-color targets. 09.48.26 # my experience with mini1G is that if I use simple disp_buf = (fb_data *)(p_decoder->buf + p_decoder->native_img_size); the plugin display garbage or simply hangs 09.49.38 # (native_img_size is real size without additional line buf as it is not needed after decoding) 09.49.59 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FE26BD.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.51.21 # did you check where it hangs? 09.52.23 # it either tries to display something - gives garbage and hangs or display splash "loading" and hangs 09.53.28 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.55.24 Join dys [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f734f92.pool.mediaWays.net) 09.56.42 # in your patch on the tracker, the line where *buf_size is set is commented out. if the value isn't set correctly, it could do something bad when there is not enough buffer left for scaled down image 09.58.39 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 09.59.02 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.59.05 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.59.29 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2DC2F.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.00.01 # I have this http://www.pastie.org/1202534 at the end of load_image() 10.01.49 # it looks correct. 10.01.50 Quit JdGord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.01.53 Join jdgord| [0] (~jd@1.40.251.203) 10.02.17 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 10.02.46 # ok have to go - I think I'll have to go with good old printf-way of debugging 10.02.59 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 10.18.26 Join PyroBor [0] (~pyrobor@panda.patware.si) 10.26.26 # I just compile the 1.2.8 from source on my 64bit Linux machine run it and it reports that there is new version available (1.2.8). Practical identical to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11439 Here is my trace: http://pastebin.com/GDjuAweR 10.26.57 # hi btw :) 10.26.58 # PyroBor: it's been reported on irc yesterday 10.27.16 # ow. ok :) 10.31.54 Quit jdgord| (Quit: Bye) 10.34.31 # hi funnman 10.34.43 # I've got info about sdcard 10.34.46 Join drizztbsd [0] (~quassel@dynamic-adsl-94-36-217-115.clienti.tiscali.it) 10.34.46 Quit drizztbsd_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10.36.05 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 10.39.18 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-157-087.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.43.39 # has anyone had any thoughts about where to put code which is a apps/ call to the host environment in a nice way? 10.44.24 # i.e I want to route kbd_input() to java on android, do we want a hosted/ folder in apps? or put it through firmware/target/ ? 10.46.00 # or do I just wrap the keyboard.c file in a #ifdef and put it in messily? 10.48.10 # if it can be put in different files forget the #ifdef 10.48.13 # Its java based? 10.48.28 # Does that make it slower and more memory wasteful? 10.48.33 Part Zagor 10.49.32 # Thanatos: yes android is java based and please stay on topic 10.49.53 # funman: I'm working on the assumption that this wont be the only thing we want the host to eventually control, so yeah I want to do it right... apps/hosted (apps/hosted/[sdl|android]/ even maybe)? 10.49.59 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.50.29 # for android it will mostly be wrappers so not much code, for things like last.fm logging it could be heaps 10.51.28 # apps/hosted sounds good at first sight 10.51.42 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 10.52.32 # pSiKO: do you know the class of your cards? 10.52.40 # Thanatos: Rockbox is not but I'm not sure which "it" you are referring to 10.53.39 # funnman: nop, how can I can know it ? 10.54.32 # it's written on the card or the packaging. on the card i have there's a '6' inside a circle just right to the 'microSDHC' logo on the card 10.54.44 # The port to app was what I meant 10.55.11 # it's a Transcend 4GB too but it's reported as 0x773000 blocks, not 0x77F000 blocks like yours 10.55.24 # there is a small java layer to make it work on android, it is still mostly c 10.55.50 # is the asm enabled now on android builds? 10.56.36 # its 2d blit not 3d flipping? 10.56.46 # funman: ok both class 6, I update my post 10.56.59 # Thanks! 10.57.01 # pSiKO: then, i don't know what is going wrong. where do you live? 10.57.07 # I am glad to know that ( ゚ ヮ゚) 10.57.11 # France 10.57.51 # same, Dijon here. if you can send me your card (wrapped in a postcard for example to avoid tempting the postman) i could have a look at it and send it back to you after 10.58.02 # ok nice 10.58.15 # I'm in paris 11.01.11 Quit Thanatos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.02.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.03.18 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.06.49 Part PyroBor ("Konversation terminated!") 11.08.03 Part Zagor 11.08.20 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 11.26.40 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.56.01 Part Zagor 11.56.29 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 11.57.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.08.52 Quit soap__ (Quit: Leaving) 12.12.03 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.15.45 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.18.04 Join avacore [0] (nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 12.24.14 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 12.37.46 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.50.12 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-186-139.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 13.02.07 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CE56.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.02.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.31.34 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 13.31.39 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 13.39.19 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.53.21 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.206.248) 13.53.23 Quit kugel (Changing host) 13.53.23 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.00.28 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@141.45.206.238) 14.06.05 Quit kugel (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 14.06.13 Quit kugel_ (Quit: exit(0);) 14.06.23 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@141.45.206.238) 14.08.04 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.08.15 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 14.10.28 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@141.45.206.238) 14.10.47 Quit kugel (Changing host) 14.10.47 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.15.10 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 14.15.24 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.18.28 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 14.27.03 Quit petur (Quit: moving) 14.32.19 Quit kugel (Quit: exit(0);) 14.32.29 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.35.41 # New commit by 03teru (r28213): text viewer: ... 14.37.49 # r28213 build result: All green 14.46.45 # New commit by 03kugel (r28214): Pixel-accurate (vertical) list scrolling for touchscreen targets. ... 14.48.55 # r28214 build result: 82 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed) 14.52.04 # New commit by 03kugel (r28215): Fix targets with remote display, forgot to add the new functions to their header. 14.54.04 # r28215 build result: All green 14.56.13 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.56.40 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.59.24 # what is the reason for this pixel-accurate scrolling for non-touchscreen targets. it seems all got it? 15.02.15 # pixelma: no, only touchscreen targets got it 15.02.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.57 # the smaller reds for the others is because the lcd_* api has been extended 15.03.01 # red delta* 15.13.13 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 15.22.49 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.30.04 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.34.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@92.117.49.82) 15.34.49 Quit kugel (Changing host) 15.34.49 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.35.01 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 15.41.02 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@arch.tunnel.ipv6.estpak.ee) 16.02.51 Quit balintx_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.06.32 Quit dys (Remote host closed the connection) 16.07.37 Quit kugel (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 16.08.17 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@g231106043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.08.20 Quit kugel (Changing host) 16.08.20 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.12.37 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 16.13.06 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 16.23.34 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 16.26.27 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 16.27.17 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 16.28.19 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.31.16 Join Innomen [0] (~Innomen@h186.214.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 16.31.35 # hi all, question, of the supported mp3 players which is the highest capacity? 16.31.58 # stock capacity, the ipod video 80gb 16.32.33 # upgraded.. probably also ipod video, which people have put a 240gb drive in :) 16.33.09 # Technically, the old Archoses, since you can get 320gb drives that fit in those. That's not an ideal setup by any means though 16.33.20 # the page says "Apple: iPod 1g through 5.5g, iPod Mini and iPod Nano 1g " 16.33.30 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.34.19 # gevaerts: not being able to expose all of it over usb is a bit nasty, yes :) 16.34.34 # Innomen: the ipod video is the 5g/5.5g 16.34.38 Part mungewell 16.34.54 # I'm going to be buying an mp3 player with 40gb at least I would like one compatible with the project, ipod looks like the way to go, good hardware so it seems. When buying is "ipod video" a sufficient search term? 16.35.11 Join Drise [0] (Drise@146.229.118.157) 16.35.12 # ahh so that's a series number not a size notation 16.35.25 # 5th generation, yes 16.35.36 # thank you :) 16.35.45 # most ipods on sale are not described accurately 16.35.53 # Hey guys, just wondering why the SansaAMS page has the stability/compatibility table removed 16.35.56 # not all ipod videos will be called that 16.36.08 # Can you recommend a course of action then? 16.36.14 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.36.14 # some may be mislabelled as ipod classic or just not described in detail at all 16.36.48 # Innomen: But as a loose rule, if it's a 30gb, 40gb (Photo) or 60gb iPod it'll work (unless someone's gone crazy and swapped the drives on a newer one). Only the 80gb ones will be dubious. 16.36.56 # Since that could be a Video or could be a "Classic" 16.37.09 # you can tell the difference with a decent picture 16.37.18 # but there are also "Classic" Ipods which are the 6th generation, be sure not to confuse them 16.37.22 # videos have a plastic, flat front panel 16.37.24 # And 120/160/bigger are going to be the "Classic" model 16.37.27 # I'll eBay and link here if that's allowed for opinions 16.37.33 # 60 would be ideal 16.37.37 # the classics have a metl front panel with rounded edges 16.38.35 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 16.39.38 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 16.39.53 # Innomen: maybe discussion of specific ebay auctions would be a bit more appropriate for #rockbox-community 16.40.16 # not finding any anyway hehe its all broken ones 16.40.42 # it seems pretty clear now what I should be looking for 16.40.44 Part LinusN 16.40.49 # just search for ipod 60gb 16.40.50 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 16.41.03 # many of them won't say video or 5g at all 16.41.39 # I guess I'm just a cheapskate 200$ seems like a lot of money 16.41.57 # i didn't pay that much for mine 16.42.00 # That sounds like too much 16.42.15 # $200 for a 60GB model is too much, unless it's BNIB 16.42.18 # way too much to me hehe 16.42.20 # my 80gb was hm, $150 or so 16.42.41 # with a remote controk dock and stuff included 16.42.48 # neato 16.42.52 # remote control lol 16.43.21 # question, is it possible to delete a song from the device alone? 16.43.30 # With RB, yes 16.43.32 # in rockbox, yes 16.43.34 # using rockbox of course 16.43.37 # outstanding 16.43.52 # that seals the deal for me 16.44.16 # when I ask people that they look at me like I have lobsters crawling out of my face most of the time 16.44.30 # like omg who would EVER delete a song 16.44.51 # and I'm like <---< this guy 16.45.46 # I don't suppose you'll ever have iphone or ipod touch support :) 16.46.09 # if you volunteer to do it why not 16.46.20 # Innomen: Nothing should be ruled out, but there's nothing happening in that direction as far as I know 16.47.52 Quit Guest26371 (Quit: Leaving.) 16.48.25 # Well thanks for your help guys :) 16.49.12 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.49.21 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.49.26 # the android specific code isn't that big so adapting to iphone shouldn't be hard 16.59.12 Quit Innomen (Quit: I don't like you. But Bersirc 2.2 does. Try it out now. [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]) 17.01.47 # funman, why did you remove the stability/compatibility table from the Sansa AMS page? 17.02.10 # i removed a table, but it wasn't related to stability or compatibility 17.02.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.02.29 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-186-139.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 17.02.35 Join Guest18954 [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 17.03.32 # well, the specific isues table, so to speak 17.03.46 # I'm just curious, not angry or such. 17.03.50 # i guess because they were all 100% 17.04.15 # so V2 usb is up? 17.04.17 # there were 2 problems and i gave a whole line of text to each of them 17.04.41 # Clip+/Clipv2/Fuzev2: USB support is currently disabled because it fails randomly. Until its ready, use the OF's USB by booting the OF before connecting the USB cable. 17.04.49 Join busse [0] (~542cc6f0@giant.haxx.se) 17.05.00 # hi @ all 17.05.00 # just above Specific problems (Port Status)à 17.05.10 # does it still fail? 17.05.47 # yeah nothing changed 17.06.07 # need some help with my nano 2g 17.07.08 # on display it only shows the ftl seems to be damaged. 17.07.09 Join sudoman [0] (c05041e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.80.65.231) 17.07.20 # forcing check 17.07.27 Join [sko] [0] (~sko]@p57A99270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.07.37 # scanning flash... 17.07.49 # *panic* 17.07.58 # division by zero 17.08.11 # please help me 17.09.58 # hallo someone out here 17.10.13 Quit Drise (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.10.14 # don't do that, if someone can help you they will 17.10.35 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.10.46 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 17.15.55 Join giovanni_ [0] (~giovanni@93.37.248.0) 17.16.11 # should i try ipod_4g_button_int-variant2-v2.patch from http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5230 without the udelay? would that be safe? and if it works, could it make the patch more acceptable? 17.16.24 Join spike___ [0] (~spike@75-120-146-230.dyn.centurytel.net) 17.16.26 # I've got a littloe problem with r28214, about scrolling touch screen devices 17.16.51 # It looks so much smoother, really, feel great but.. 17.17.13 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 17.17.16 # I've got difficulties while selecting an item from the list 17.17.37 # funman: does it still fail? (got diconnected, sorry) 17.18.01 # Drise: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20101006#17:05:47 17.19.05 # you can check yesterday logs i talked about USB with pamaury, but nothing in the foreseeable future :/ 17.19.19 Quit spike_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.19.33 Join Drise_ [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 17.19.44 # gah... again... 17.20.15 Part Zagor 17.21.38 Quit Guest18954 (Quit: Leaving.) 17.21.51 # funman: does it still fail? (got diconnected, sorry) 17.21.57 Quit Drise (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.22.38 # giovanni_: in absolute mode, I assume - maybe the touch area doesn't "scroll" as smoothly as the rest? 17.22.46 # Drise_: check the irc logs, www.rockbox.org/irc - yes it still fails 17.22.55 # yes, in absolute 17.23.20 # the touch area still scrolling also if I am only pressing it to selecting an item 17.25.29 Join timc [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 17.25.36 Nick timc is now known as Guest90781 (~tim@112.166.15.141) 17.30.04 # giovanni_: explain "difficulties"? 17.30.15 # yes 17.30.17 # oh, sorry, I saw it now 17.30.20 # can you compile? 17.30.21 Part Drise_ 17.30.21 Join Drise_ [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 17.30.32 Part Drise_ ("Leaving") 17.30.35 Join Drise_ [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 17.30.41 Quit Drise_ (Quit: Leaving) 17.30.57 # there's SCROLL_BEGIN_THRESHOLD in apps/gui/bitmap/list.c. 3 worked nicely for me but it can be adjusted if needed 17.31.11 # it is hard to select an item from the list because my selecting-touch is interpreted as a scrolling-touch 17.31.21 # :D 17.31.41 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 17.31.52 # maybe it is the onda touch screen 17.31.53 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 17.32.06 # increasing the value makes it less sensitive 17.32.31 # may be added an option in preferences? 17.35.31 Quit Guest90781 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.36.38 # giovanni_: not if we find a value that works nicely for everyone 17.37.04 # great, in fact I was asking it as a debug option... 17.39.22 # giovanni_: can you find a value that suits you? 17.39.49 # just try to change "#define SCROLL_BEGIN_THRESHOLD 3 " to "#define SCROLL_BEGIN_THRESHOLD 5 " or so 17.39.51 # yes, I will take a look at it in 5 mins 17.40.10 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.41.51 # is there a ragnge for those values? 17.41.54 # 0 - 10 ? 17.43.21 # funman: is anything holding back frequency scaling on amsv2? 17.43.49 # kugel: what is the hold up with switching android to absolute grid mode? is there a list of screens somewhere that need updating? 17.44.03 # I don't know if there's a list 17.44.18 # I know of pitchscreen and graphical equalizre 17.44.28 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 17.44.34 # (you can't get out of those in direct mode) 17.44.43 # EQ should probably be redesigned completely for touch 17.46.04 # FWIW in my quick testing on the clipv2, frequency scaling seemed to work fine, at least i could play music for a long while without any issues, though i can't remember what the original reason for disabling it was 17.46.58 # saratoga: i haven't tested it in some time 17.47.19 # i'll switch my players over to it and use them for a while and see if anything crashes 17.51.22 Quit Battousai (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.51.26 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 17.55.48 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CE56.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.00.03 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 18.01.15 Quit Drise (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.03.34 Join Thanatos [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 18.06.43 # http://duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/rockbox-clipplus-frequency.7z 18.06.51 # if anyone else wants to try frequency scaling on the clip+ 18.08.06 # kugel: I'm facing more or less the same issue setting 5 where you suggest me 18.08.26 # do I need instead to decrease? 1 - 2 ? 18.08.34 # no 18.09.47 # now tring with 8 18.11.24 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.21.12 Join timc [0] (~tim@112.166.15.141) 18.21.38 Nick timc is now known as Guest56292 (~tim@112.166.15.141) 18.24.44 # kugel: not usable also with 8 18.25.05 # ping me when you found a value 18.25.52 # ok, may I grow up till 100? 18.27.29 Quit funman (Quit: free(random());) 18.27.56 Quit Guest56292 (Read error: No route to host) 18.31.16 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 18.32.48 # kugel: maybe it's time to switch the default to absolute point mode for raaa (or specifically on Android, perhaps) 18.33.34 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 18.34.09 # I'm not opposed to it 18.34.11 # If only to avoid early adopters warning everyone about how strange and scary Rockbox is 18.34.47 # yeah - if some screens aren't adapted it is just because the port isn't done, but with the grid mode people thing the whole thing is broken 18.35.00 # *think 18.35.16 # I think the same 18.35.33 # I've not used grid mode since day 1 of the port :) 18.36.10 # I'd say do it 18.36.16 # me too 18.36.21 # kugel: could RaaA database crashes be caused by too deep directory trees? 18.36.34 # I'd also change other touchscreen targets :) 18.36.41 # gevaerts: maybe...maybe not 18.37.22 # permissions or symlinks might also be problematic 18.38.29 # * kugel thinks AlexP's sentence would be a great commit message :) 18.38.32 # go for it! :P 18.38.51 # hehe :) 18.39.27 # AlexP: There's still the argument that this makes Rocbkox not usable out of the box (or if you've reverted to defaults) for visually impaired users 18.39.32 Quit CGL (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.39.56 # on the other hand it makes Rockbox seem broken for the rest, so I don't know 18.40.33 # I still think "visually impaired people" don't buy touchscreen is a strong reason to ignore that idea 18.40.54 # * kugel moves the second " a bit farther 18.40.57 # could the Rockbox Utility be able to write a cfg after a question about it on first installation? 18.41.20 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.41.20 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.41.20 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.41.39 # rasher: I know, but I think that is a small number of people vs. the majority, and why are blind people buying touchscreen things anyway? 18.41.44 # We could have a baroque setup where the default is different if a voice file is found. Probably not a very good idea though 18.41.57 # rasher: Anyway, different argument - I'm content just with switching android for now 18.42.00 # or RaaA 18.42.27 # kugel: I think some visually impaired who already know about Rockbox might be willing to buy a touchscreen device if they know they get something seemingly quite usable (haven't tried myself though) 18.43.05 # then I suspect they know how to change the .cfg without using the player too 18.46.09 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 18.46.34 # pixelma: This is only really important for users who can't (or won't) easily get sighted help though 18.49.41 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@dhcp-128-203.residence.ens-lyon.fr) 18.49.41 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 18.49.41 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.53.37 Part toffe82 18.54.06 Quit kugel (Quit: exit(0);) 18.54.10 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC57447.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.54.10 Join CGL [0] (~CGL@190.207.235.80) 18.57.15 Quit Drise (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.01.46 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@user-24-236-91-225.knology.net) 19.02.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.05.52 # kugel: can't find a good solution, to me it seems that the scroll works good with 5, the standard, maybe the problem is another one, I can't select the right way 19.06.39 # by the way, I've just scratched the onda's screen with my nail.... 19.07.40 Quit Thanatos (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.15.59 # rasher: but then Rockbox Utility isn't very accessible with some TTS and or system setups anyway. At least, back when I tried with the admittedly oldish MacOs 10.4 and its built-in voice support, it wasn't very helpful 19.27.54 Quit Drise (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.33.18 Quit Jaykay (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.33.29 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.35.01 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC57447.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.36.28 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.36.31 Quit sudoman (Quit: Page closed) 19.37.29 Quit Jaykay (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.38.41 # are the cygwin tools currently updated? 19.42.01 Join Drise [0] (Drise@146.229.116.252) 19.42.34 # preglow: no, you'll need to run rockboxdev 19.42.38 # for arm at least 19.43.19 Quit Drise (Client Quit) 19.43.38 # as long as that works fine 19.44.01 # never got this cygwin shit working properly, but i just can't be bothered to use linux atm :> 20.00.41 # good to see it's slow as ever 20.01.31 # yes 20.08.43 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.08.43 Join bimbel [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 20.08.51 # it'd be faster to go to the shop, buy a computer, come back, and install linux 20.12.54 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.13.28 # or just goddamn booting the linux you already have 20.13.36 # but it takes longer to stop being a fool and doing so :/ 20.14.08 # i think it's common knowledge than linux in a VM is faster than cygwin 20.14.58 # i wonder how cygwin does it 20.15.05 # either the fork() emulation is _really_ heavy 20.15.10 # or something fancy is going on 20.16.50 Quit busse (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.17.00 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797C856.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.20.10 Join DSStrife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 20.24.55 # saratoga: can you measure battery life improvement with cpufreq patch? 20.31.14 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.33.25 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@92.117.16.9) 20.33.26 Quit kugel (Changing host) 20.33.26 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.36.12 Quit CGL (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.37.21 Quit DSStrife89 (Quit: Heading home.) 20.42.02 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 20.50.55 Quit giovanni_ (Quit: Sto andando via) 20.56.30 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 21.02.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.02.38 # funman: was afriad you'd ask me that 21.02.41 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 21.02.51 # i guess i'll start a battery bench 21.03.03 # :) 21.03.15 # a reason i didn't invest much time in this patch is because battery life is already very decent 21.03.40 # what is the FS# ? 21.04.34 # i can't remember which patch it was with your battery benches 21.05.24 # FS#11297 21.06.04 # saratoga: oh and last patches *reduced* battery life 21.06.20 # funman: i didn't apply any patch, just edited the config file to enable scaling 21.06.38 # oh 21.07.45 # should i test with that patch? 21.09.20 Join andromedea [0] (~manzanita@ip68-104-236-55.ph.ph.cox.net) 21.11.16 # I installed Rockbox on my sansa e260 and everything allegedly went successfully, but when I boot it, it goes to the default sansa software. Can anyone help me? 21.11.43 # sure, explain what happened 21.12.03 # saratoga: no, first test without to see if there is still a problem 21.12.17 # funman: ok i'll start it when the device is charged 21.13.36 # I'm not sure what happened; it said that installation was complete. 21.14.07 # how did you install, and which e260 do you have? 21.14.11 # It's recognizing the device and going through the installation process. 21.14.15 # v2 21.14.43 # I tried both with the quick start complete installation and the "installation" tab bootloader/installation 21.15.02 # so rbutil ;) 21.15.16 # what did it say when you gave the installer the sandisk firmware file? 21.18.09 # http://see.forestrees.org/rockbox.jpg 21.19.08 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 21.19.31 # When I try to reinstall, it tells me "Rockbox installation detected" 21.21.18 # andromedea: does it say something about updating firmware (or something similar) after the installation? 21.21.32 # yes 21.21.54 # How are you rebooting? Is the USB cable still connected? 21.22.25 # No, it won't turn on while connected. Unplug it, turn it off, turn it back on. 21.22.37 # ok 21.23.09 # * gevaerts doesn't really have an idea 21.24.34 # it should turn off automatically after unplug. Can you perform an upgrade of the Original Firmware using Sandisk files/tools ? 21.24.57 # I can. Should I? 21.25.09 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host135-168-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.25.31 # yes, to check if upgrades work normalyl 21.31.14 Join WobbleTheHutt [0] (~Wobble@h96-61-81-218.cntcnh.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) 21.31.22 # Sandisk upgrade works fine. 21.32.11 # hello 21.32.35 Quit anewuser () 21.32.45 # Should I try formatting the device and installing rockbox from there? 21.33.19 # you could try doing the manual install 21.33.29 # also using a different firmware version then is already installed would be interesting 21.33.43 # then you could see if the patched firmware took by checking if the original firmware version changed 21.33.58 # of Sandisk firmware? 21.34.20 # yes, the original/sandisk firmware 21.34.27 # which version is on there now? 21.34.38 # Sandisk says installing the wrong firmware can brick the thing 21.35.28 # what sansa are you updating by the way? 21.35.40 # I can't check, it's "refreshing database" which take about 3 minutes every time I turn it on, which is why I want rockbox on it 21.35.44 # e260 21.35.44 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.35.57 # nice i love my e280 :) 21.36.53 # i also have a fuze 8gb v2 im waiting for full USB support before i start using it. 21.37.34 # yeah, this is my 3rd e-series. I had an e280 that died on me, then an e250 where the scroll wheel got messed up so it jumped an unpredicable number of clicks per turn (both refurbs from woot) and now I have the 260 ($42 on amazon) 21.37.41 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 21.37.57 # do you know, if I completely format the thing, will the installers still recognize it? 21.38.54 # praised be the lord, i have no m68k-elf-gcc 21.38.58 # i hate cygwin 21.39.05 # the rockbox utility detects the presence of a .rockbox/ folder 21.42.44 # OOOH you can fix the scroll wheel 21.43.00 # my e280 was like that when i got it 21.44.40 # How? 21.44.56 # Was yours a refurb too? 21.45.03 # i got mine on ebay 21.45.07 # ah 21.45.09 # you dismantle the scroll wheel and clean the contacts 21.45.17 # im looking for a guide 21.45.22 # i just winged it when i did it 21.45.37 # but the issue is the contacts arnt making good connection 21.45.41 # also how did you e280 die? 21.45.48 # it just bricked on me. 21.46.36 # usually that means the flash memory chip came out and needs to be put back into its socket 21.46.58 # battery bench started 21.47.06 # who wants PICTURES on how to fix the scroll wheel? 21.47.27 # WobbleTheHutt: ask in rockbox-community 21.47.35 # not in the rockbox channel 21.47.53 # i was talking to andromedea, they mentioned that they had a scroll wheel messed up 21.48.01 # so i found them a link 21.48.33 # that would be great 21.48.51 # http://joustin.com/?page_id=10 21.49.46 # not sure if it's worth it now that I have the new one, the old one was a 2gb and the new one is a 4gb 21.49.59 # might as well for a backup its pretty easy 21.50.33 # also i recomend ronsonol lighterfluid as a cleaner instead of rubbing alcohol 21.56.53 # I'm trying the manual install and sansapatcher.exe doesn't recognize my sansa 21.57.20 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.57.30 Quit [sko] (Quit: Leaving.) 21.58.45 # sansapatcher isn't for the v2 22.02.49 Quit Dhraakellian (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.03.35 # andromedea: did you ever check which firmware you have installed? 22.04.19 # v03.01.16A 22.04.28 # yeah then sansapatcher won't work 22.04.40 # try the manual install directions in the manual 22.05.13 # and try downloading and patching a firmware version other then that so you can see if it accepts the patched firmware or not when you try to install 22.06.41 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.08.02 Quit lestatar (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 22.08.20 # different rockbox firmware? 22.09.38 # andromedea: no sandisk firmware, the install procedure involves patching the sandisk firmware 22.10.18 # i'm saying that you should try and patch a different version then you already have installed so that you can check the firmware version afterwards and see if it actually installed anything 22.10.29 # does that make sense? 22.11.12 # not really, sorry 22.11.53 # you should notice the 'upgrade in progress' screen anyway if it works 22.12.10 # andromedea: do you remember when you tried to install rockbox how it required you to download an OF firmware file? 22.12.19 # yes 22.13.29 # when you do that again, try using a different firmware version, then afterwards see if the firmware version changes 22.13.38 # that way you can see if it actually patched 22.13.51 # err actually installed 22.13.58 # verses erroring out for some reason 22.14.52 Quit bmbl (Quit: Bye!) 22.25.24 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@92.117.16.9) 22.25.26 Quit kugel (Changing host) 22.25.26 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.25.48 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p4FD4D9E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.25.48 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 22.25.48 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.27.07 Quit funman (Quit: windows for ever) 22.33.19 Join Dhraakellian [0] (~ntryon@cpe-67-240-248-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 22.42.05 Quit Dhraakellian (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.46.17 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 22.50.07 # Okay, I got rockbox loading by formatting the thing and then installing, but now when I plug it in it turns on and off over and over again. 22.56.22 Join Thanatos [0] (~Nausicaa@c-71-239-58-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.00.38 Quit drizztbsd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.02.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.12.50 # the data abort screen, the first address is the address of the faulting instruction, what is the second address? 23.14.11 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.15.52 Join Staphylo [0] (~Bullet@AMontsouris-159-1-57-18.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.17.43 Join Dhraakellian [0] (~ntryon@cpe-67-240-248-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 23.19.30 Quit Galois (Remote host closed the connection) 23.19.40 # there are no addresses 23.19.44 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 23.21.36 # it loads up the database and then reboots 23.22.34 Quit Thanatos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.34.09 # andromedea: that was a general question about the data abort screen 23.34.18 # i want to know what the meaning of the second address on that screen is 23.34.40 # I'm not sure what you mean by data abort screen 23.35.50 # andromedea: I'm asking other people (e.g. developers) what the screen means 23.35.55 # don't worry about it 23.36.08 # one of the other hundred people in the channel will hopefully know the answer 23.37.24 # funman probably know, I think he made that screen for at least the ARMs in the AMS sansas 23.38.49 # I booted into the sandisk firmware so I can at least do that; with rockbox rebooting, my computer wouldn't recognize it 23.41.09 # SVN logs don't show any commit about that handler (unless it was before 3.6)? 23.41.59 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 23.42.08 # did someone just delete that thread i replied to on the forums 23.42.13 # they left my reply so its all confusing 23.42.54 # how do I access SVN logs? 23.43.01 # it's 3.6 23.43.55 # theres a link on the front page by the svn section 23.46.18 # I can't find it, but I found this dated Aug 9: "Unfortunately, Rockbox's svn logs can no longer be browsed online." 23.47.22 # saratoga: I'm pretty sure he deleted his own posts. 23.47.31 # i didn't realize users could do that 23.47.44 # You can delete your own posts, though I *thought* you couldn't after someone has responded. 23.47.50 # andromedea: its at the bottom of the subversion section, check the links next to "All commits" 23.49.51 # hm 23.51.01 # Llorean: I think it was just mooted, but should be activated IMO 23.51.18 # The "new" AMSv1 bootloaders (released in July) boot to rockbox when USB is plugged in, while 3.6 on AMSv1 players reboots on plugin... 23.51.23 # Someone needs to remember to ask scorche to do it when he is around 23.52.11 # gevaerts: yes, that was the intention 23.52.32 # should i just delete that thread then now that hes bailed on it and llorean seemed to think it was a duplicate 23.52.35 # saratoga: yes, but it means that a fresh 3.6 install behaves badly 23.52.40 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.52.46 # AlexP: Maybe it's just not a feature. 23.53.12 # gevaerts: doesn't it boot up into rockbox and then reboot to the OF? 23.53.18 # Llorean: No idea - I think soap was talking about in reference to HA where they have that feature 23.53.30 # Llorean: I can't look anyway 23.53.32 # saratoga: He's technically correct that it's not a duplicate of the first post in either of those threads. But it's more or less a duplicate of the later discussed per-file Bookmarks I think. 23.53.35 # saratoga: no. Only ipods behave that way 23.54.08 # saratoga, firmware/target/arm/system-arm.c which contains the UIE handler had its last major update with svn r25087 which also added the FSR line 23.54.35 # saratoga: I'd delete it tomorrow if he hasn't responded by then. Or just leave it, and it'll fade into obscurity on its own. 23.54.55 # andromedea: I suspect your issue is just that current bootloaders and 3.6 don't play nice together when booting with USB plugged in. This is unfortunate, and probably should have been avoided, but there's not much we can do about it right now 23.56.29 # so what happens on 3.6? does it just hang ? 23.56.39 # it keeps rebooting 23.57.02 # oh because the bootloader doesn't know what to do 23.57.04 # haha 23.57.10 # thats a pretty good oversight 23.57.41 # I'm trying to remember how that transition was handled for the portalplayer sansas 23.57.58 # i guess most people aren't running such old builds now on the AMS targets so it was never reported 23.58.04 # still strange that no one noticed until now