--- Log for 27.10.110 Server: hubbard.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 4 hours ago 00.03.31 # so there's no actual *reason* behind this other than "we just do it like that"? 00.05.20 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@24.193.43.185) 00.06.12 # Hmm... the simulator is not in the menu offered by the config script? 00.06.37 # you pick a device, then pick simulator 00.07.38 # Ah, right. Thanks. 00.08.36 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.09.59 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.10.11 # Oh, did r2800 get reverted on the 3.7 branch? 00.10.16 # *0 00.10.35 # r1? 00.10.56 # r28000 00.11.00 # The AMS thing 00.11.10 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.12.11 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.12.11 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 00.12.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF3E9F.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.12.56 Join DSStrife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-146-90.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.13.31 # AlexP prepares a patch and asked for testers, I believe it's not commited yet though 00.13.45 # prepared too 00.14.06 Join Strife89TX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-80-146-90.mcn.bellsouth.net) 00.16.45 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@24.193.43.185) 00.16.55 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 00.16.55 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 00.17.23 # TheSeven: I think it boils down to "we don't like them", but I find a consistent (comment-)style makes code easier to read 00.19.10 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 00.22.10 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Disconnected by services) 00.22.12 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.42) 00.25.08 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.26.19 Quit ender` (Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson) 00.32.41 Quit kazaik (Quit: Leaving) 00.49.30 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@122.110.229.222) 00.54.07 Quit Strife89TX (Quit: Pulling out the memory card.) 01.03.45 Quit DSStrife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.08.33 # I wonder why funman removed the table from the SansaAMS page 01.10.15 Join Strife89 [0] (6250925a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.80.146.90) 01.11.39 Join DSStrife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-191-240.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.18.48 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 01.18.48 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 01.18.48 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.31.16 Join Kiwi_Cam [0] (~Kiwicam@ip-118-90-75-25.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) 01.32.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.35.35 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.37.50 # i think people were annoying him asking about it 01.38.06 # i asked him and he said that everything was 100% anyway except for USB 01.38.49 # Hi everyone. Could I get you guys to check my Theme? Maybe you lot might spot what I'm missing. If you run it in the simulator, you should get an idea as to what's going wrong, but I can't work out why. I've tried everything I can think of. Would a dropbox link be OK, or pastebin? Do you need to bitmaps? Thanks. 01.41.16 Quit froggyman (Remote host closed the connection) 01.42.09 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@adsl-76-243-178-119.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 01.44.39 # I have to go and do some work, but if you're interested, here's the WPS file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12359987/FFRW.wps I'll check in later. Thanks. Everything works fine except for the track details above the progress bar. It seems to be picking up info from the rest of the theme. 01.45.54 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.46.46 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 01.56.04 Part toffe82 01.58.02 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.01.11 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.04.33 # Okay, I'll bring it here and say it explicitly: I'm not against converting RaaA to absolute, only against intentionally removing the ability for people to use certain screens during the process of this. 02.04.53 # leave it on the ml please 02.04.53 Join soap [0] (~soap@lu-r1.connectionvpn.com) 02.04.53 Quit soap (Changing host) 02.04.53 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.05.10 # or go pm 02.05.30 # I think this is clear from my emails, but in case someone is unable to ascertain this from the fact that in my first email openly says "I don't think it should go in until X is true" rather than "I don't think it should go in at all", I accept that this change is happening. 02.05.43 # JdGordon|: Well first off, how this change should happen is on-topic here anyway. 02.05.58 # Secondly, I want it logged somewhere what my opinion on the matter is in case someone "can't figure it out" later and wants to accuse me of more things. 02.06.17 # on the ml it's logged 02.06.38 # kugel: On the ML, the person who can't figure it out isn't reading any more either. 02.07.37 # kugel: What's the argument against leaving the screens in grid mode, rather than breaking them, anyway? 02.07.44 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 02.07.44 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.07.48 # if grid mode is so "unusable" as you claim, wouldn't it be just as bad to leave it in grid mode? 02.08.06 # I started the topic on the ML not to continue it on IRC 02.08.11 # discussion of grid mode usablity is not ON TOPIC for here, take it elsewhere 02.08.12 # In terms of putting pressure on developers to "fix" it, I mean 02.08.28 # JdGordon|: How is discussion of a feature of Rockbox off-topic? 02.08.40 # the feature yes, weather it is useable vs stylus isnt 02.08.51 # it is hoever a boring discussion which you two can take to pm 02.08.55 # JdGordon|: But I didn't ask how it's usable vs stylus, at all. 02.09.10 # ah forget it 02.09.12 Part JdGordon| 02.09.37 # What I'm asking is, if the goal is to make the screens bad so that developers want to fix them, wouldn't leaving them in grid mode when the rest of the UI is absolute also accomplish this pressure? 02.10.00 # i doubt 02.10.04 # Why not? 02.10.20 # If "unusably bad" isn't enough to force it, why would "literally not there any more" do it? 02.10.29 # ML.... 02.12.15 # I assume that means you have an answer for the question. 02.21.31 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.25.48 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 02.30.20 # does it really matter if we leave some screens in grid while we change over? 02.30.32 # that seems fine to me, most will probably be fixed pretty quickly 02.30.39 # I'm not sure anyone thinks so, actually 02.30.57 # aren't there only a few major ones left? 02.31.11 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.31.23 # rasher: kugel's explicitly said several times he thinks it needs to be all or nothing - if we switch over, no screen must be left in grid, so as to encourage people to work on them more after the switch 02.31.30 Part JdGordon| 02.31.47 # for implementation reasons? 02.32.17 # saratoga: Mainly "people are more likely to work on those screens if they're gone until someone fixes them" 02.32.42 # well either seems fine to me 02.32.57 # i figure eventually we'll want to redesign a lot of the screens for touch UIs anyway 02.33.15 # While I don't find grid mode that bad, I'm pretty sure *everyone* who'd be working on absolute mode anyway does find it that bad. 02.33.28 # So I tend to think "grid mode" is just as bad as "no screen at all" in encouraging those people to work. 02.34.10 # i was wondering how hard it would be to steal some of the native android widgets for touch screen stuff actually 02.34.13 # Meanwhile, it means the screens are there if you've read the manual and know how to manage them (though I also agree with JdGordon's point - if any of those screens are impossible to exit in grid mode, that's even worse than not having them and needs fixing in some manner) 02.34.15 # some of them are quite nice 02.34.31 # But I don't think he's watching the channel, so don't tell him I said that. 02.34.38 # well, you want an indication that the mode changed, a splash, drawing borders or both; otherwise you'd not know about it. I don't want to do the work on these indicators 02.35.00 # A splash would be pretty trivial, no? 02.35.09 # i don't think we need any visual indication 02.35.21 # its a work in progress, some screens can be expected to be weird 02.35.26 # most of the important ones are already fixed 02.35.33 # saratoga: I think a visual indication that point/absolute mode is no longer in effect would be nice, if the majority of the UI accepts absolute input. 02.35.56 # But not essential, I guess. 02.36.11 # i say just switch over right now, and then add things like that as we go if people find it annoying 02.36.47 # Well, I don't know that the framework is in place for some screens to be in grid mode while the UI is in absolute? Is it? 02.37.02 # no 02.37.10 # that's also additional work 02.37.22 # which is all wasted if you ask me 02.37.36 # It's not wasted if nobody ever fixes the screens. 02.38.09 # Isn't it just a matter of temporarily changing a setting and restoring it on exit? 02.38.14 # I will agree it's wasted if the screens are adapted in a timely manner. 02.38.34 # I just am not nearly as confident as you that this will happen. 02.38.44 # how hard is it to do that? 02.39.00 # i mean if its reasonably hard then yeah, don't bother and just leave the screens busted for a while 02.39.22 # or hack a few of the important ones to grid mode i guess 02.39.51 # the idea here should be to get the Android port to a point where lots of people can use it, then let them fix it 02.40.00 # err fix its glitches I meant 02.40.07 # I don't think the Android point is the problem, so much as the other touchscreen devices. 02.40.14 # Er port. 02.41.16 # we're about to do a release, nows the time to break things 02.41.27 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.41.30 # if people are bothered by it, they can help fix the screens or just stick with 3.7 02.41.38 # I agree. After the release, the current unstable is a great time for things to get really bad. 02.42.18 # plus we've got a few patches sitting on the tracker for converting stuff to absolute mode 02.42.33 # * rasher likes the fact that afrikaans.lang was last updated 7 years ago 02.42.34 # presumably breaking those things will encourage people to look at them 02.43.25 # saratoga: non of the devices in question is stable in fact 02.43.34 # isn't the mrobe? 02.44.10 # not the 500 02.44.15 # oh wrong model 02.46.06 # what about using native android widgets in rockbox? 02.46.38 # is that feasible or worthwhile? 02.46.51 # neither I'd say 02.47.51 # i was thinking about borrowing the c code directly and putting it in rockbox for use on all touch devices 02.48.04 # or at least something close to it 02.48.26 # google has a pretty nice collection of open source touch ui stuff 02.48.54 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.49.06 # where? all android widgets are java 02.49.43 # i thought they were implemented as c libraries? 02.49.59 # isn't the whole GUI written in c and neon? 02.50.04 # no 02.50.29 # so they JIT the GUI? 02.50.33 # that seems kind of crazy 02.50.43 # also, let me remind you that not all android devices have neon 02.51.03 # they don't even do jit pre-froyo 02.51.36 # many, many of them don't have neon actually. there's a lot with arm11 chips 02.52.02 # i realize that 02.52.18 Join Kiwi_Cambo [0] (~KIWI_CAM@222.153.223.32) 02.52.20 # obviously anything you write in NEON has to have a c fallback, since android runs on non-arm devices too 02.52.56 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.57.31 Quit Kiwi_Cambo (Quit: Leaving) 03.00.06 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 03.03.11 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.04.20 Quit klapaucjusz (Quit: Time is an illusion, bedtime doubly so.) 03.04.39 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 03.06.54 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.08.21 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.09.08 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228133093.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.10.23 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.11.15 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.12.18 # saratoga: we havnt managed to get rockbox to use any standard ui elements at all yet, once/if that happens then maybe we can convert things to native widgets where it makes sense 03.12.53 # otherwise it would be rewriting the entire ui in java and just using rockbox code for the playback engine (which maybe isnt such a bad idea also) 03.15.30 # And playlist engine 03.16.05 # sure 03.16.06 # having multiple GUIs in rockbox would be interesting 03.17.09 # If it can be split up more like a client/server (playback/ui) then it would be pretty fun to make a rockbox widget which could run along side the actual app 03.33.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.43.18 Quit elcan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.49.06 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@pool-72-69-202-246.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.49.08 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~robert@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 03.49.08 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 03.49.16 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 03.49.16 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 03.57.25 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-69-203-144-35.si.res.rr.com) 04.05.14 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.05.26 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.19.45 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 04.37.02 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f68da.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.40.35 Quit edboyer93 () 04.40.40 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.43.28 Quit Strife89 (Quit: ... and scoots to the couch.) 04.48.23 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.48.25 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.48.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.48.35 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.48.37 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.48.56 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.49.07 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: leaving) 04.50.13 Join icheyne [0] (~522cc941@giant.haxx.se) 04.50.59 # hi all 04.51.09 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 04.51.24 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053152188.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.51.24 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 04.51.24 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 04.51.35 # I think rockbox is displaying the time in the top right corner 04.51.45 # how can I update the time? 04.52.02 # have to say that rockbox works like a beauty on my Sansa Clip+ 04.52.10 # so happy when I saw there was a port 04.53.06 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.53.55 # should be in the manual 04.53.56 # menu > system > time and date 04.54.15 # cool thanks guys :) 04.54.29 # (It isn't in the manual) 04.55.08 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.55.51 # ok I lied 04.55.54 # it is in the manual :( 04.56.07 # I did look though 04.56.59 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.57.42 Quit icheyne (Quit: CGI:IRC) 05.05.01 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 05.05.27 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D89D.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.17.21 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 05.25.30 Quit drizztbsd (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.31.55 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Bedtime) 05.32.07 Join drizztbsd [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/drizztbsd) 05.32.31 Quit _s1gma (Quit: XChat has encountered a problem and needs to close) 05.32.51 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.33.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.34.22 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.42.31 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.45.30 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7EC36.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.52.25 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.54.17 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-208-169.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 06.23.35 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.27.27 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 06.30.49 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~cold@p54A5AF5C.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.01.27 # [Saint]: I dont suppose you got round to trying out the "have rtc" tag with %X did you? 07.02.13 # ... and if you want to play I can walk you through adding "have touchscreen" if you want? 07.07.36 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 07.10.44 # Question: I want to apply some patches I've found, is the rockbox source the same across all players? 07.10.50 # <[Saint]> I haven't got around to it yet, no...I've been thinking about the touchscreen tags though. Something that doesn't seem to be possible, but could be quite useful is: "if touched --> do X; if held --> do Y" 07.11.17 # <[Saint]> I'll say again, it doesn't seem to be possible, but, it may well be and I'm just missing it. 07.11.17 # & IIRC is for a hold 07.11.30 # Simon14: yes 07.11.46 # <[Saint]> yeah, but IIUC you'd beed to set up two actions there, and the touch action would go off also 07.12.07 # no, the touch wont happen untill an unpress I think 07.12.10 # so it should work 07.12.14 # <[Saint]> Ah, ok. 07.12.18 # but yes, you need to setup two 07.12.28 # ok, so why are there different builds for each device? anything that i need to take into consideration when i'm compiling? 07.12.46 # <[Saint]> "do it right" ;) 07.13.01 # :P 07.13.16 Nick [Saint] is now known as S_a_i_n_t (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.42) 07.13.20 Quit TheSphinX^ (Quit: XChat) 07.13.44 # i'm just failing to see why there are different builds per device if it's the same? 07.14.14 # the codebase is the same, but each build has different parts of the code compiled 07.14.46 # having a different codebase for each device would mean duplicates of foolish ammounts of files. 07.16.28 # JdGordon: Do you know (off hand) if "settings_inc" wraps? 07.16.47 # or will it just got to the last increment and stop? 07.16.58 # it should wrap 07.17.00 # *get 07.17.05 # thanlks. 07.17.06 # I would expect it to wrap 07.17.26 # I'm 99% sure it wraps 07.17.42 # of course, i just didn't see where the compilations differed between devices. after a closer look, the target build is defined when running tools/configure correct? 07.17.44 # yeah, it definately does, or the quickscreen woudlnt work 07.17.52 # yes 07.18.33 # sweet...I'd like to use that (in combination with the future (is touchscreen?)) to just tap the repeat icon, as it would suck have seperate areas for rep_up and rep_dwn. 07.19.00 # having it wrap if you make a mistake is a way better compromise 07.20.31 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 07.20.35 # I want to use the (future) "is_touchscreen" to display the rep/shuffle icons fulltime if "touchscreen" == true...as I don't want them onscreen fulltime in the non-touchscreen version. 07.20.47 Quit anewuser () 07.21.06 # in ilike? 07.21.19 # It'll take some thinking but I think I can make quite a decent touchscreen theme out of the Apple theme 07.21.20 # yeah. 07.21.33 # doesnt the of always show those icons also? 07.21.38 # Nup 07.26.49 # hmm, would %T(x,y,w,h, action, &hold_action) be sensible? 07.27.05 # only one being required of course 07.27.49 # If it can be done as you say, and the held action won;t set off the touched action once it fires...I don't really see the point. 07.28.00 # I'll check how it actually works in the sim later on. 07.28.04 # %T(x,y,w,h, settings_inc, foo, &settings_dec, bar) could be nasty 07.29.39 # well the point would be simpler skin code, if it does actually make it easier 07.29.40 Quit S00row (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.30.06 # one less line to write at the very least 07.30.08 # well, I'll have to step out of the converation then ;) 07.30.13 # We seem to have different opinions of "simpler" :p 07.30.19 # hehe indeed 07.30.45 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 07.30.53 # I havnt suggested %T(x,y,w,h, %?**) 07.30.58 # although...... :D 07.31.31 Join Simon14_ [0] (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/simon14) 07.32.27 Join Simon14__ [0] (~chatzilla@S010600259c415685.no.shawcable.net) 07.33.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.33.56 Quit Simon14 (Read error: Operation timed out) 07.33.59 Nick Simon14__ is now known as Simon14 (~chatzilla@S010600259c415685.no.shawcable.net) 07.34.14 Quit Simon14 (Changing host) 07.34.14 Join Simon14 [0] (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/simon14) 07.35.48 Quit Simon14_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.43.35 # is anyone running the vmware image under VirtualBox? 07.53.09 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 07.54.56 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.00.44 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 08.07.22 Join fritschy [0] (~marcus@dslb-094-217-026-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.12.42 Join NTKM [0] (~NTKM@KD111100198040.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) 08.15.26 Quit NTKM (Remote host closed the connection) 08.21.23 Quit Kiwi_Cam (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.29.36 Quit S00row (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.32.17 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.34.31 Join bmbl [0] (~Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.39.53 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.41.36 Quit S00row (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.43.26 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 09.01.48 # S_a_i_n_t: ok, if you do get to testing it.. I'm pretty sure you cant (currently) use it with true/false (i.e for conditional image/backdrop loading) 09.01.49 Quit S00row (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.01.57 # but I tihnk http://pastebin.com/LR0fwv4x will fix that 09.02.23 # %?cc<%X(rtc.bmp)|%X(nortc.bmp)> should work 09.02.25 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 09.02.38 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.04.58 # gevaerts: Yeah, I'm about to - I'm just waiting for one of the affected people to get back to me to check it works. kugel checked on his non-affected fuze, and that still works which is good :) 09.04.58 Quit S00row (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.05.56 # Just to refresh my memory...what is it I'm testing with the "have rtc?" tag? 09.06.03 # JdGordon: ^ 09.06.32 # if the correct side is parsed 09.06.52 # like the above, or even to not bother loading a bunch of images if there is no point 09.07.15 # ah...right. is it specific to %X? 09.07.21 # or...just any tag? 09.07.59 # any, %X will be obvious 09.08.09 # as with %xl (it should complain if you use the same id) 09.08.26 # you could even put a parse error in one side and see if it gets hit 09.08.29 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 09.08.48 # I'm pretty sure svn will always do the false side, that patch should make it only do the *correct* side 09.09.42 # wouldn't you want it to do both? 09.09.47 # no 09.09.53 # why? 09.10.04 # if rtc...do this...if not, do that. 09.10.09 # seems sensible to me. 09.10.29 # right, but the target wont magically change from yes rtc to no rtc during one rockbox session 09.11.02 # no...but there's possibly themes that share screensize, but do/don't have rtc 09.11.03 Quit S00row (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.11.15 # s/themes/targets/ 09.11.31 # exactly thats what this is for 09.11.59 # so...I don't see why it doesn't need to parse both true and false. 09.12.23 Join xxcv [0] (~asdf@c211-30-174-99.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 09.12.30 # %?cc<%X(rtc.bmp)|%X(nortc.bmp)> will show a different backdrop image depending on the target. that line will fail if both sides are parsed on target 09.12.34 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 09.12.43 # actually it will always show nortc.bmp 09.12.47 Quit fritschy (Quit: leaving) 09.13.50 # jdgordon|: I applied the patch you asked me to test for RaaA two days ago - what was it you wanted me to test? 09.14.06 # what was the patch? 09.14.09 # I dont remember :p 09.14.40 # oh yes, just make sure things that read/write to the /.rockbox folder work.. so themes, fonts, codecs, 09.16.12 # jdgordon|: 11575 09.18.22 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 09.19.10 # How does one quit RaaA? 09.22.51 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@122.110.229.222) 09.25.17 # manually 09.27.35 # S_a_i_n_t: Not helpful 09.27.38 # S00row: I may be wrong, but from what I've read here I don't think you can from within it 09.28.14 # However, JdGord or kugel will be better placed to help :) 09.29.00 # Thanks AlexP figured i was missing something. Not sure how i'm to test that rw to .rockbox is working without changing settings, quit, restart 09.29.57 # you can try just creating/deleting a directory from withing rockbox. 09.30.01 # or renaming a file. 09.30.55 # jdgordon: Create Directory Failed flashed up 09.33.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.33.49 # Where? 09.36.23 # Crap - Switched back to 3x3 mode, what is 'ok' in 3x3? 09.38.29 # jdgord: I think i tried to create it outside the sd card. I'm attempting to create a directory on the sdcard now, but i'm lost on how to 'enter' in 3x3 mode 09.38.44 # Middle right 09.38.55 Join drizztbsd_ [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/drizztbsd) 09.39.06 # That moves the cursor 09.39.26 # Or use the ball if the build is new enough 09.39.48 # Also moves the cursor 09.40.07 Quit drizztbsd (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.40.23 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.41.36 # Push the ball for select 09.43.46 # Bottom right cancels, top right, top left move the cursor left/right, left/right/up/down move the cursor, bottom left deletes, center selects the current character, left/right on trackball moves text cursor (not box) left/right, downpress on ball gives no reaction 09.43.59 # time for an svn update? 09.44.13 # Ah. In the keyboard? 09.44.21 # Forgedaboufit 09.44.36 # Hardware.back button? 09.44.39 # One does not quit android apps, generally 09.44.47 # I hope Rockbox will be no different 09.44.58 # Don't know if it's there yet 09.46.12 # I'd like to be able to quit it - i generally won't but its useful. jdgord: Hardware back didn't respond in keyboard mode either. Bottom right allows me to leave. How should I go about testing rw without keyboard 09.46.13 # As far as the user is concerned it does exit 09.46.40 # S00row: just hit the home button 09.46.41 # Don't bother :) 09.46.44 # and it's "gone" 09.47.39 # jdgord: Sure? 09.48.27 # Yeah. Ill do this testing more properly 09.48.28 # Thanks anyway 09.50.43 # Which user manual should I read through to get a rockbox overview, that is most 'similar' to Raaa 09.51.26 # And can you change the name to RockDroid - RaaA is getting tedious ;) 09.51.35 # D2 09.51.58 # Rock is GREATLY overused. 09.52.02 # and tiresome. 09.52.19 # Rocksroidbox 09.52.19 Quit JdGord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.52.23 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@122.110.229.222) 09.54.27 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1CCE.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.58.03 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.02.09 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 10.24.49 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.28.44 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.207.181) 10.28.46 Quit kugel (Changing host) 10.28.46 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.30.09 # S00row: raaa is just a handle for the application port. the software is still called Rockbox, and that won't change 10.32.44 Join pSiKO [0] (~tbox@213.56.158.253) 10.36.41 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@188.107.170.201) 10.36.41 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.37.49 Quit esperegu (Read error: No route to host) 10.38.51 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 10.44.44 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.47.16 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.207.181) 10.47.18 Quit kugel (Changing host) 10.47.18 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.47.19 Quit kugel (Client Quit) 10.58.51 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 11.08.04 Quit xxcv () 11.14.07 Quit soap (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.14.34 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 11.29.17 # * JdGordon can show a native android window from the framebuffer :) 11.29.35 # this means it shuold be almost straightforward to get a native keyword input working 11.31.47 # ... hopefully 11.31.47 # haha! nice ;) 11.32.03 # Nope! you've spoken now! we all expect it! 11.33.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.52.15 Quit jfc^3 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.56.15 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 12.07.35 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 12.09.44 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.09.56 Quit Loto (Read error: Operation timed out) 12.11.20 # FUCK YOU MUCHLY eclipse 12.11.29 # erm... wrong window 12.12.02 # :) 12.12.31 # what would be the right windows for this? ;) 12.12.45 # #eclipe 12.13.00 # dammit..poor time for a typo. 12.14.13 Join Loto [0] (~ctrlproxy@xbmc/user/Loto) 12.17.09 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.34.45 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.35.34 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f68da.pool.mediaWays.net) 12.40.43 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.207.181) 12.40.45 Quit kugel (Changing host) 12.40.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.46.38 # EvanCarroll: Any luck? 12.52.15 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.58.41 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-222-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.59.08 # New commit by 03teru (r28364): fix that disktidy plugin and shopper plugin is not usable when Show Icons setting is turned off. 13.05.19 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.06.01 Join wodz [0] (~5f303f8a@giant.haxx.se) 13.09.33 # AlexP: Today I tested png viewer on my mpio (CF) and ipod mini (PP). The total time (from click to image shown) is the same for both devices after my changes (and less than 5s for United Kingdom Flag). I made tests with other optimizations but I gained only speedup ~10% of total time with MUCH code complexity added. 13.09.58 # wodz: Sounds good to me, thanks very much for taking the effort 13.11.59 # I'll commit this after 3.7 13.18.36 # teru: Didn't you already commit that? 13.18.41 # wodz: it is nice if you could fix indentations. i think i saw some lines are not indendet when i last looked the patch. 13.19.03 # S_a_i_n_t: it is for ver3.7 branch 13.19.10 # ah. 13.21.18 # teru: yes this is on my TODO list before commiting 13.22.36 # oh, good. thanks. 13.28.04 # btw. do we have some settings established to automate process with indent command? 13.28.33 Quit evilnick_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.32.37 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f000::135d) 13.33.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.03 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.207.181) 13.59.13 Quit kugel (Changing host) 13.59.13 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.01.26 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.03.39 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.03.48 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 14.10.19 # * JdGordon is so close to having a working android host keyboard input :/ 14.18.45 # \o/ it works! 14.21.22 # how did you do it? 14.22.03 # create an activity from the service.fb (which gets the current activity passed in in resume() ) 14.22.09 # its pretty messy, but it works 14.22.55 # via intent? 14.23.02 # yeah 14.23.34 # I was under the impression you could make intents from the service as well 14.23.38 # rockbox goes into a sleep(HZ/10) loop waiting for the reply which is also a bit nasty 14.23.59 # I'll put up the diff once I clean up a bit 14.25.27 # you can probably replace the sleep() with a wakeup_wait() 14.26.45 # JdGordon: does the rockbox so call into java to request keyboard events? 14.26.46 Quit wodz (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 14.26.57 # yeah 14.27.15 # from what I can tell you treat it as a hardware device, which I need the opposite behavior for what I'm doing 14.27.27 # you get anywhere with native debugging? 14.27.34 # wait what? and no 14.27.42 # DEBUGF() is all we have 14.28.17 # oh, I was able to get gdbserver working but only when testing a standalone app, still can't get this lauded jni debugging to work 14.28.19 # you can apparently hook up gdb for native debugging but I never got it to work 14.29.07 # tmzt_: could you document how you did it somewhere? 14.30.39 # for the standalone? I just run ./gdbserver :port ./app from adb shell as root 14.31.22 # how is the decoding thread handled, is it a native thread or created from java? 14.31.33 # I'll have to look at the source again 14.32.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11703 14.37.08 # this is what I'm doing http://gist.github.com/648945 14.38.28 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~3f74f70d@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 14.38.42 # you might also look at connectbot which has an efficient way of managing hard and soft keyboards that actually works, as well as a clean way of delivering the keystrokes to jni processes (but running as a terminal of course) 14.39.09 # two seperate topics here 14.39.24 # what I've done is replace the on screen keybaord which sucks with a native ui 14.39.42 # we might also want proper keyboard handling which will have to do something completly different 14.39.43 # native as in rockbox native? 14.39.52 # native as in java 14.40.04 # okay, same terminology I've been using :) 14.40.29 # so you request an entire string and block in the c code for it? 14.40.36 # yes :( 14.40.55 # which isnt really a problem because that code blocks the main thread anyway 14.41.34 # maybe you could call up the keyboard request and just deliver the keystroke back when finished? or the problem is the bit field for keys in rockbox drivers? 14.41.41 # keystrokes 14.42.58 # the way I did keycodes for sdl is have a single BUTTON_ASCII and then the keycode in the button data which is usually used for the touch position 14.43.55 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.44.02 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 14.44.06 # why wouldn't that work the same way? just batch them in java call into c 14.44.18 # it probably would 14.44.24 # I've had *some* success with posix locking 14.46.47 # now, how do I create a nice ui which doesnt use up the whole screen and just centers the edit field and some buttons? 14.47.02 # in java that is 14.47.12 # eclipses ui editor is a peice of shit 14.48.35 # edit the xml, and talk to romain 14.54.48 Quit krazykit (Quit: awe yeeeeeee) 15.06.23 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 15.16.26 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15.22.50 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.25.27 # teru: do you plan to commit FS#11682 Disktidy Plugin Does Not Clean Custom Files? 15.25.52 # I have been using it since you added it, and it works very well. 15.26.40 # Th eonly thing that concerns me about it is that you can add "*.*" as matching criteria and have the plugin attempt to erase the disk ;p 15.26.47 # *The only 15.28.05 # probably i'll commit it after 3.7 is released. 15.29.00 # maybe .rockbox should be "secured" too 15.29.09 # "*.*" will not work since it only recognise first "*". 15.30.21 # pixelma: mind you, if someone specifically adds ",rockbox" they're kinda asking for it ;) 15.32.28 Part LinusN 15.33.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.37.02 Join icheyne [0] (~c209bc15@giant.haxx.se) 15.37.59 Quit icheyne (Client Quit) 15.48.10 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.49.03 Join Marker[buntu] [0] (~4ddc89bc@giant.haxx.se) 15.51.08 # hi all, who can help me ? when I try to compile rockbox on linux it talk me this: http://paste.org/pastebin/view/24066 15.51.29 # you haven't built the compiler. Follow the build instructions. 15.52.03 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.53.14 # Marker[buntu], in best case, you just has to type "tools/rockboxdev.sh" from your root 15.53.34 # this will take some times 15.54.00 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.207.181) 15.54.12 Quit kugel (Changing host) 15.54.12 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.56.43 # Ok, now i will try it 16.03.38 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.05.16 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 16.10.22 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.17.54 Quit Zambezi (Changing host) 16.17.54 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 16.17.54 Quit Marker[buntu] (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.26.02 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 16.27.48 # hmm, why do test_codec crash with ogg vorbis in the sim but on just playing the file? 16.30.30 Join captainkewllllll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 16.31.34 # tlsf trying to deref a null pointer, awesome 16.31.49 # why does this only happen with test_codec though? 16.36.14 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.37.07 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-136-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.37.18 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 16.43.45 # ah, awesome, return of init_memory_pool is not checked 16.46.51 # heh, a function with return type size_t returning -1 on error isn't very helpful 16.48.10 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 16.56.08 Join Marker689 [0] (~4ddc89bc@giant.haxx.se) 16.57.06 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 16.57.22 # Ok, I have compiled this, and i have one question: how can I add patches to firmware ? 16.57.31 Join nerdy_kid [0] (~nerdy_kid@pool-71-174-117-120.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) 16.57.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3037?type=4 for example 16.58.17 # I can't seem to get my video to encode with mp3 (for various reasons I dont know) but I can get it to encode with mp2. Will that work as well with mpgplayer? thanks 17.02.27 # nerdy_kid: try the manual...pretty sure it states only mpeg3 17.03.18 # Marker689: read up on the wiki about using the "patch" command 17.03.41 # s/wiki/rockbox wiki/ 17.04.15 Part Zagor 17.04.53 # S_a_i_n_t it says "MPEG audio multiplexed into .mpg files" so i guess mp2 would work, I am just wondering if it would be slower/not as good/etc. for some reason ffmpeg refuses to encode mp3 >-O 17.05.52 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.07.23 # New commit by 03nls (r28365): test_codec: Align the codec buffer to pointer size, since tlsf wants that. Fixes a crash when running tremor in test_codec on 64 bit sim. (The tlsf ... 17.07.40 # Hmmm...I tell a lie, apparently mpeg1 and 2 are supported for playback. 17.08.51 # AlexP: I just tried to download that one on filebin its down, I forgot my sansa last night 17.09.00 # r28365 build result: All green 17.09.05 # I also note that I accidentally typed mpeg3 earlier, as opposed to mpeg2 17.09.09 # sorry for the confusion 17.09.18 # nerdy_kid: ^ 17.09.18 # EvanCarroll: Down as in you have it, or down as in you can't get it? 17.09.25 # I can't get it 17.09.28 # http://filebin.ca/nccta/rockbox-e200v2.zip 17.09.30 # OK, I'll re upload 17.09.31 # just hangs 17.09.34 # One mo 17.10.13 # S_a_i_n_t ok thanks :) 17.11.30 # S_a_i_n_t: I think you're mixing video and audio formats here 17.11.59 # audio format "in" the video 17.12.10 # anyone know of a filebin alternative? 17.12.30 # datafilehost.com 17.12.35 # ta 17.13.13 # EvanCarroll: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-f6ad10fd.html 17.21.33 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 17.23.03 Part nerdy_kid ("Konversation terminated!") 17.33.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.33.57 Quit _s1gma (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.34.17 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 17.35.09 Quit _s1gma (Max SendQ exceeded) 17.35.39 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 17.38.42 # * TheSeven wonders if anybody read the nano2g stable proposal 17.38.51 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.39.04 # I did! 17.39.11 # I'll reply tonight fwiw 17.39.21 # I did as well! 17.39.46 # I think that it's ready for stable status. 17.40.18 Quit _s1gma (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.48.38 # I did too but din't have time to write a reply this morning and then forgot about it, i agree that it's ready for stable 17.50.48 Quit Marker689 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 17.57.46 Join liar [0] (~liar@83.175.83.185) 17.59.58 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 18.02.01 Quit petur (Quit: dada) 18.03.06 # AlexP: FWIW, I tested your e200v2 build and did not notice any problems, although I was not having the problem caused by r28000 18.08.52 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 18.09.13 Quit _s1gma (Max SendQ exceeded) 18.09.40 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 18.13.32 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.14.26 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@chello087206240131.chello.pl) 18.16.54 # what do you think about http://www.pastie.org/1253074 as a reference code style for rb? 18.18.29 # AlexP: great! 18.19.02 # mc2739: Cool thanks - just need someone with the problem to confirm it has gone away 18.19.59 # AlexP: that build is all kinds of bad 18.20.07 # I mean code formated with this script 18.20.33 # EvanCarroll: ah, doesn't work? Interesting - all I did is revert r28000 18.20.37 # not at all 18.20.48 # the IO randomly changes settings too 18.20.54 # eh? 18.21.09 # the left channel keeps poping out, and when hit a file it will randomly enable party mode or queue the file 18.21.17 # which are settings that I didn't even use before 18.21.27 # I don't see how that is possible 18.21.32 # Clicking a file gives me Queue Last 18.21.40 # I just unzipped in the directory and did a replace all 18.21.59 # Really all I did was revert r28000, and it works fine on non-affected units 18.22.03 # FF/RW doesn't even work 18.22.30 # Who made the previous version for you that works? I'll ask them for the source 18.22.42 # bertik or something like that 18.22.44 # I don't have the logs 18.22.54 # bertrik, you there? 18.23.00 # I would suggest to do clean settings or make clean install even 18.23.13 # yeah, try that if you don't mind 18.23.52 # how do i do that? 18.24.13 # remove your .cfg, or judt delete the .rockbox folder 18.24.15 # easiest is probably just to delete the .rockbox directory first 18.24.27 # It'll reset settings though 18.24.28 # keep your .cfg for backup if you want to though. 18.26.59 Quit soap_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.27.30 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 18.28.05 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 18.28.49 # there we go 18.28.52 # interesting 18.28.58 # working? 18.29.02 # yar 18.29.06 # cool :) 18.29.15 # I wonder if I replace with my old config if it nukes it 18.29.17 # I wonder what on earth was going on before 18.29.24 # Yeah, would be interesting to try 18.29.26 # I had a different theme and backlight setting and some other stuff 18.30.17 Join earcar [0] (~carmine@93-39-228-12.ip78.fastwebnet.it) 18.31.05 # you know with all the stuff about the rarity of this problem 18.31.10 # I wonder if it isn't in the config 18.31.19 # I observed that sometime old config makes all sort of funny things. 18.31.24 # it seems like no one knows anything about it 18.31.47 # EvanCarroll: Maybe it is worth trying a current build, having deleted .rockbox? (if you haven't already) 18.32.07 # I'm not sure I have, its always worked fine 18.32.24 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.32.24 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.32.24 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.32.41 # EvanCarroll: If you don't mind it'd be good just to double check 18.34.22 # hahah 18.34.25 # It is repeatable 18.34.27 # !!! 18.34.39 # So it doesn't work with a current build? 18.34.44 # I backed up my config, replaced it again, and now the abnormalities are back 18.34.49 # No, i'm still on your build 18.34.58 # er, what the hell? 18.35.00 # I replaced my old config on your build 18.35.10 # and now clicking on the files queues them and FF/RW are broke 18.35.10 # OK, so the config is fucking it somehow 18.35.17 # major fucking it 18.35.20 # Could you post your config.cfg? 18.35.26 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 18.35.37 # to pastebin.com or somesuch 18.35.56 # And if you could try with reset settings and current build, that'd be fab 18.36.31 # sure, let me send you my config, because from what I'm seeing it would totally fuck the user experience if someone upgraded to 3.7 without a reset of the config 18.36.34 # If they had my settings 18.36.46 # because I can't FF/RW and picking a different track seems to work totally randomly 18.36.58 # I can't pause either with this config 18.37.07 # yeah, it'd be nice to find out what setting is doing that, and how the hell it is doing it 18.37.33 # clicking the files just brings up a prompty that says Queue Last 18.37.37 # this is really rather amusing 18.38.08 # the first file i pick works 18.38.13 # the rest of them jsut queue last 18.38.45 # http://gist.github.com/649409 18.38.47 # that's the diff 18.39.23 # you can see it is pretty basic stuff, I pretty much just listen to long audio books. 18.39.31 # I'm not a "power user" with EQ voodoo or anything 18.40.01 # guess it's the "Party Mode" setting, could you turn it off? 18.40.10 # maybe "Skip Length" too 18.40.37 # aha, party mode :) 18.40.44 # I didn't have party mode on though 18.40.47 # I guarenttee it 18.40.51 # The build turned it on 18.41.14 # Is that your backed up one? 18.42.34 # now it works 18.42.39 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@151.61.122.202) 18.43.10 # yea, but when I first installed this download options were turning off and on by moving the scroll wheel. 18.43.24 # but party mode was causing the Queue Last things, and the broken play/pause FW/RW 18.43.32 # or, rather whatever that funky mode entails 18.43.36 # I'm sure it is by design 18.43.47 # * S_a_i_n_t doubts that. 18.43.59 # party mode != "randomise my settings" ;) 18.44.15 # EvanCarroll: So we should try reset settings with a current build :) 18.44.36 # yea, will try now 18.45.43 # cheers 18.47.44 # nope 18.48.04 # clicking in the left channel 18.48.09 # just like before 18.48.34 # OK, so it looks like reverting is needed, but there is an additional funky settings issue 18.48.53 # I'll commit the revert for the release, and then we can think about the settings 18.50.09 # is there anything I can help trouble shoot on the issue? 18.51.05 # not sure, maybe :) 18.51.07 # one mo 18.52.23 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 18.53.28 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.53.33 # New commit by 03alex (r28366): Revert r28000 on the 3.7 release branch, as for as yet unknow reasons it causes playback issues on a small number of players. Thanks to Evan Carroll ... 18.54.38 # for what its worth the playback issues are in the left channel and more likely during the start of the playback 18.58.47 # As for what breaks it, I guess you could take your saved config, and remove all but one item to see if you can find which it is 18.59.55 # Does Partymode just do that? 19.00.09 # disable FF/RW/Pause/Play and Queue Last rather than Jump to Song 19.00.28 # I mean, that settings is totally not wanted for my use case, but I assume that was someones intention 19.00.46 # is it possible to change the "random" playmode so that the playlist is in some sort of order (song name/artist) and ls 19.00.50 # a better question is how did partymode come to be enabled when I tried your build, because I'm 100% sure it wasn't enabled previously 19.00.59 # and the next song is randomly chosen? 19.01.00 # Or at least, if it was, it didn't act like that 19.01.03 # EvanCarroll: yes, apparently: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansae200v2/rockbox-buildch7.html#x10-1220007.6 19.01.50 # anyway, problem fixed. the issue was party mode was enabled, how it got enabled I have no idea and couldn't get it to repeat itself 19.03.14 # Simon14: You mean keep the playlist fixed, but jump around in it? If so, no I don't think so 19.03.33 # EvanCarroll: Well, that problem - the strange issue with r28000 is still there 19.03.39 # yes 19.03.41 # true 19.03.46 # dang, i like that method so much more. oh well 19.04.07 Quit S00row (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.04.07 # EvanCarroll: At least 3.7 should work for you :) 19.04.17 Join S00row [0] (~Administr@27-33-98-164.static.tpgi.com.au) 19.04.38 # hey, I've got USB =) that's why I upgraded from the first working AMS build 19.04.48 # and USB works well now with large transfers 19.17.32 Quit earcar (Quit: bye) 19.24.28 Join orzo [0] (joe@173-166-55-6-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 19.24.48 # hello 19.25.03 # i have questions more about rhythmbox but i dont know a channel for it 19.25.10 # but i have a rockbox player 19.25.26 # and i opened a playlist file from it in rhythm box 19.25.35 # and it doesnt seem to work, but i now seethe file under playlists 19.25.48 # well if its not going to work, i dont want it showing there, so i could select "delete" 19.25.56 # but i'm afraid it will delete the file off my rockbox player 19.28.53 # you're quite right...this isn;t a Rockbox question 19.29.31 # I'm sure RhythmBox has it's own support forums 19.30.22 Join Jaykay [0] (~chatzilla@p5DC5712E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.30.27 Join s1gma_ [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 19.32.04 # man.. updating the ARM compiles took a good 20mins i think 19.32.07 # if not more 19.33.10 Quit _s1gma (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.33.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.36.00 # it's not updating it, it's building it from scratch. 19.36.45 Part S_a_i_n_t 19.37.08 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.42) 19.38.20 # oh i thought the dev came with arm but it needed to be updated. i knew that the arm source was fetched and built 19.40.50 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.42.54 # okay, real rockbox question. I'm unclear on how to use the sd card with rockbox. DO i need to turn off the player whenever i remove or insert a card? 19.44.58 # orzo: What device is this for? 19.45.47 # so after running 'tools/rockboxdev.sh' and running make i get an error: 'as: unrecognized option '-Qy'' which from what i've read is something to do with confusing as 19.46.05 # e280 19.46.07 # sanda 19.46.08 # sansa 19.46.09 # sorry 19.47.06 # orzo: You can insert an SD card while the device is on. 19.47.20 Quit KiwiCam (Quit: Leaving) 19.48.04 # and also remove it while it is on? 19.48.27 Part The-Compiler 19.48.52 # i know computers typically want me to click "safely remove" or something like 19.49.07 # but rockbox maybe does no caching? 19.51.41 # orzo: Your computer could also be caching. 19.54.32 # uh 19.54.51 # i know the computer caches, that's why it wants me to click "safely remove" before I pull a card out 19.55.07 # i've got gcc 3.3.5 (from the vmware image) do i need to update that? 19.55.08 # the question is, does rockbox have a "safely remove" or is it always safe to pull a card out ? 19.55.34 # I don't think rockbox does write caching 19.55.43 # I'm not a dev but it's my impression that once the file copy dialog is done you can pull your card 19.56.29 # well thanks 19.56.58 # i'll try back later 19.58.39 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.59.47 Join glenniek [0] (~4e93d3e7@giant.haxx.se) 20.00.21 # hi there can anybody help me with a manual install of rockbox onto a sansa clip= 20.00.27 # clip 20.00.33 # clip+ 20.01.27 Quit glenniek (Client Quit) 20.01.32 Join glenniek [0] (~4e93d3e7@giant.haxx.se) 20.02.26 # hi can anybody help me with a manual install of rockbox onto a clip+ 20.04.29 Quit glenniek (Client Quit) 20.04.35 Join glenniek [0] (~4e93d3e7@giant.haxx.se) 20.05.36 # are you following the explanation in our manual and why a manual install? 20.06.08 # note: I don't have a Clip+ and don't know the procedure 20.06.09 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.09.15 # automated install will not work with the newest clip+ 20.11.07 # glenniek: The manual should have all of the instructions you need to install Rockbox on a Clip+. AFAIK the procedure is similar to other AMS Sansas. http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.2 20.11.39 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@p3E9E21A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.11.54 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5797CBC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.12.20 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@97.202.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee) 20.12.48 # my problem may be basic but when i try and navigate to my 'rbinstall' folder the command prompt states "rbinstall' is not recognised as an internal or external command, operatble program or batch file" - it has the bootloader and evrything in it 20.13.47 # glenniek: What OS are you using? 20.14.00 Join _s1gma [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 20.14.35 # windows 7 20.14.39 # 64 20.15.00 # glenniek: Do you have a Command Prompt open? 20.15.07 # yes 20.15.10 Quit s1gma_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.18.17 # glenniek: The command to change directories is "cd ". 20.18.59 # To go down multiple directories, you would type "cd \\" (replace each with the actual name of the directory). 20.20.40 # i can navigate all the way to the directory - it just stops at rbinstall 20.20.49 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.23.41 # and you have a folder called this way, maybe there's a typo somewhere? 20.28.45 Quit glenniek (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.28.57 Join glenniek [0] (~4e93d3e7@giant.haxx.se) 20.29.11 # sorry i missed the last comment 20.30.40 # the exact link is C:\Users\Glenn\Desktop\rbinstall 20.32.52 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.37.15 Join irc_agentsmith [0] (~dimitris@c-76-119-16-247.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 20.38.08 # just "Users"? (unfortunately I don't know how exactly those folders are called in Windows 7 20.38.56 # Hi everyone .. I just found out about rockbox from surfing the internet. I'm particularly interested in being able to auto pause my ipod player when the car turns off. Can rockbox achieve this? For some reason ipod doensn't do this. 20.39.35 # pixelma: Yes, in Windows Vista and 7, all accounts go into the C:\Users folder now. 20.40.03 # pixelma: So that directory glenniek posted is correct. 20.41.00 # glenniek: Try typing "cd C:\Users\Glenn\Desktop\rbinstall" and seeing if it gets you into the directory. If it does, then continue to read the instructions in the manual. 20.44.43 # ok - all working now - thanks for your time and help! Now let's see what it can do! 20.44.47 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@97.202.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee) 20.47.59 Join Strife89 [0] (6250bff0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.80.191.240) 20.51.56 Join liar_ [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 20.51.56 Quit liar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.53.33 # Perhaps, I should rephrase my original question a little better. I have an ipod 5.5g that I listen to through my car stereo via the cassette player. My ipod gets charged from cigarette lighter, which shuts off power when the car is turned off. If I install rockbox, is there a feature which senses the on/off from the cigarette lighter, and would in turn, put the ipod device to sleep? 20.54.50 Join kazaik [0] (~kazaik@pool-71-166-20-182.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) 20.55.26 # there is a "Car Adapter Mode" setting, I can't tell you if/how well it works on the Ipods though. I think it should work with current builds or the upcoming release 3.7 (neither have an Ipod nor a car) 20.56.31 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.57.41 # thank you pixelma. I found it! googled "Car Adapter Mode" and rockbox. 20.57.41 # "When using the player in a car, Car Adapter Mode automatically stops playback on the player when power (i.e. from cigarette lighter power adapter) to the external DC in jack is turned off. If the Car Adapter Mode is set to On, Rockbox will pause playback when the external power off condition is detected. Rockbox will then shutdown the player after the length of time set in the Idle Poweroff setting (see above). If power t 21.05.28 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.18.30 Join s1gma_ [0] (~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131) 21.21.53 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.22.23 Quit _s1gma (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.22.36 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@212.233.135.74) 21.24.22 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.33.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.35.42 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 21.35.49 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.36.03 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Help me, i got shot! *DIES*) 21.39.34 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.43.06 # I was wondering about something... we still have the code for the iriver iFP7XX in SVN, and from what I can gather on the wiki, the port status would be equivalent to "Unusable". Shouldn't the port be listed on the front page as such? 21.43.45 # Perhaps even list it on this chart: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus#New_Platforms_Currently_Under_De 21.46.25 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@178.56.6.73) 21.46.39 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 21.47.06 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 21.51.26 Quit glenniek (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.53.50 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r28367): HDD6330: fix some values in config (USB PID, battery capacity), insert commented out ATA DMA. 21.55.24 # iFP are the small daps? 21.55.38 # r28367 build result: All green 21.57.15 # tmzt_: Those are the small flash-based iriver DAPs. 21.57.46 # have one somewhere not that model though 21.58.48 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)) 21.59.23 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.01.26 # i don't think it's much use listing it anywhere as i would be very surprised if it works at all or even builds 22.02.02 # and the only guy working on it vanished years ago 22.05.11 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.14.31 # pixelma, AlexP: I uploaded corrected version of imageviewer patch. Despite cosmetic changes (uniform indentation of sources) it is what I am going to commit. Please test if you can. 22.19.00 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.25.03 # not much sense worrying about the ifp 22.25.15 # modern rockbox needs more RAM then it has, which is why tomas lost interest in the port i think 22.25.39 # even back in the day getting stable rockbox on it woul dhave been veyr hard, and probably needed rombox 22.30.47 Quit DSStrife89 (Quit: ClIRC v0.05 (homebrew IRC client for Nintendo DS)) 22.33.39 Join Strife89TX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-80-191-240.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.34.04 # Zagor, Badger: This is archive with mpio hd200 bootloader v1 (+ rockbox-info.txt + bootloader.map). Please uploade this to the download server - Thanks. 22.34.12 # http://www.datafilehost.com/download-2e4891cf.html 22.34.55 Join edboyer93 [0] (eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 22.35.35 # is mpio the manufacturer name? 22.35.52 # * Bagder ponders about dir name hierarchy for that 22.36.19 # yes 22.36.32 # wodz: will try later 22.38.30 # yes 22.38.40 Quit Strife89TX (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.39.11 Quit Jaykay (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.11/20101012113537]) 22.39.37 # wodz: done! 22.39.47 # put under bootloader/mpio/hd200/ 22.39.49 # pixelma: v7 has aspect correction so you should see difference on your ondio 22.41.15 # great, thanks :) 22.41.56 # Should I add edit something or it will be listed somewhere magically? 22.42.24 Join esperegu_ [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 22.42.40 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~quassel@131.247.244.190) 22.43.35 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.44.07 # hmm, there's no HD200 manual yet? 22.44.46 # no 22.45.20 # this is no 3 on my TODO (after commiting MAS and png stuff) 22.45.37 # ah :) 22.45.56 # I'll put link to the bootloader on the wiki for now 22.51.40 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 22.56.27 # hmm what should I do if firmware upgrade files (needed to flash rockbox bootloader) are no longer available for download? 23.05.57 Quit b0hoon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.06.43 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 23.07.31 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@public-gprs129342.centertel.pl) 23.07.35 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@g231106223.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.07.37 Quit kugel (Changing host) 23.07.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.09.29 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 23.10.10 # rasher: -community? 23.16.24 Join kugel2 [0] (~kugel@g231106223.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.16.25 Quit kugel (Disconnected by services) 23.16.26 Quit kugel2 (Changing host) 23.16.26 Join kugel2 [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.23.12 Quit user890104 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.23.14 Join user890104_ [0] (~Venci@212.233.135.74) 23.26.46 Quit froggyman (Remote host closed the connection) 23.28.17 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.30.06 # New commit by 03mc2739 (r28368): Enable line out on c200v1 - part of FS#11367 by me - Thanks to Nate for testing 23.30.47 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.31.52 # r28368 build result: All green 23.33.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.34.07 # mc2739, doesn't this use more current? 23.34.21 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Quit: Leaving.) 23.35.21 Join balintx_ [0] (~balintx@fibhost-67-58-201.fibernet.hu) 23.35.32 Quit balintx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.35.55 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.36.19 # oh, a few other sansas are already doing this (unconditionally?) too 23.38.30 Part b0hoon ("GTG, bye.") 23.39.53 Join Guest23293 [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 23.40.00 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.40.00 Quit n17ikh (Disconnected by services) 23.40.18 Nick Guest23293 is now known as n17ikh (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 23.40.22 Quit n17ikh (Remote host closed the connection) 23.40.43 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 23.41.18 Join Strife89TX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-80-191-240.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.42.08 # bertrik: funman did a battery bench on the fuze and the difference was insignificant. 23.42.55 # but measureably less runtime? 23.43.06 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.43.26 # I assume (maybe incorrectly) that it would be the same for the c200 23.44.38 # iirc, it was a a couple of minutes, which you can also get just running consecutive battery benches 23.45.37 Quit hebz0rl (Quit: Leaving) 23.45.48 Quit captainkewllllll (Quit: Page closed) 23.46.49 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228133093.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.48.09 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.49.10 # IIRC, people were concerned for runtime loss of less than 3 percent when I brought up the sample rate accuracy patch for AMSv1 23.50.06 # I don't worry about runtime loss from this patch too much to be honest. 23.50.41 # It's just I can imagine that we can autodetect when line-out is needed and when not 23.53.18 Quit komputes (Read error: Connection reset by peer)