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01.49.59 #       <soap> The Wiki is barfing about 25% of the time upon page edits.
01.50.14 #       <soap> Getting generic "Internal Server Error"s.
01.51.21 #       <soap> This is happening both when I do a "raw edit" and that horrible GUI editor.
01.54.06 #       <Drise> soap: The gui could be worse. At least it is somewhat functional.
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03.45.32 #       <soap> Finally found the time.
03.46.07 #       <soap> IpodAccessories fully updated and fixed.  15 accessories added.  Lots of formatting cleanup.
03.47.09 #       <soap> Five more pending PM replies from the forums.
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04.20.32 #       <LambdaCalculus37> scorche: What is required for a port to get a subforum for installation/removal?
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04.37.26 #       <LambdaCalculus37> bluebroth3r: Can you take a peek at FS#11732 when you get the chance?
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04.51.57 #       <webguest79> ?
04.52.44 #       <LambdaCalculus37> webguest79: There are people here. If you have a question, go ahead and ask.
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04.53.17 #       <webguest420> any idea why my sansa e280 isnt mounting anymore (windows)
04.53.48 #       <webguest420> it still charges according to rockbox but i cant find the removable drive
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05.20.09 #       <WPSeditor> Is the GSOC theme editor available ?
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05.22.40 #       <[Saint]> WPSeditor: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/themeeditor/
05.24.01 #       <WPSeditor> thanks
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10.44.13 #       * Buschel needs some benchmarks of FS#11716 on MCF5249, MCF5250 and non-PP ARM CPUs
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10.47.45 #       * [Saint] wonders what "major problems" are exactly... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14177.msg174047#msg174047
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11.39.47 #       <n1s> Buschel: i can test but i don't think it's true that the coldfire cpus suffer from having code in iram in general, they do sometimes which may depend on cache effects
11.47.24 #       <n1s> hmm, i'll need to restore my cf toolchain first it seems :/
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11.54.02 #       <Buschel> n1s: ok, let's see :) I am also somehow doubting that we did such a mistake in the libmad configuration...
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12.01.45 #       <n1s> svn takes 26.50MHz and with your patch 26.47MHz for a 128k sample so it is very slightly faster
12.01.55 #       <n1s> on h300 (mcf5249)
12.02.29 #       <n1s> mcf5349 and mcf5250 should be performing identically btw
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12.10.45 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03jdgordon (r28526): remove an unused variable and #include
12.12.25 #       <CIA-7> r28526 build result: All green
12.12.28 #       <Buschel> n1s: then let's just do it. do you have any non-PP ARM for benchmarking, too?
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12.23.27 #       <n1s> i have a fuzev1 and the beast, the beast at least doesn't use iram
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12.30.26 #       <LambdaCalculus37> It appears that the Sansa m200 v1/v2/v3 build no longer builds in recent SVN revisions. I contributed a patch to partially fix the problems in FS#11730.
12.31.04 #       <LambdaCalculus37> The patch renames the keymap buttons to match what's in button-target.h for the m200.
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12.33.28 #       * LambdaCalculus37 will look at what else is wrong later on
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12.33.38 #       <n1s> Buschel: on the fuze your patch slows it down about 1MHz
12.33.54 #       <Buschel> n1s: interesting...
12.34.20 #       <Buschel> n1s: what happens, if you switch off ICODE for this CPU?
12.34.36 #       <n1s> Buschel: i can test later, gtg now
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12.35.36 #       <Buschel> see you
12.37.45 #       * JdGordon likes the new rockbox loading screen on android
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12.45.22 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03teru (r28527): set mode argument for open() where O_CREAT flag is/can be set.
12.47.05 #       <CIA-7> r28527 build result: All green
12.53.14 #       * JdGordon has dynamic screen size workng on android
12.56.07 #       <JdGordon> who has an android phone that isnt 480x800?
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13.07.14 #       <pixelma> gevaerts: what do you think of marking the early USB bug report as 50% complete? I'd think it would make it easier to spot that it was partially fixed but not completely
13.09.38 #       <pixelma> maybe the "reopen" from yesterday's incident is drawing enough attention already though
13.09.50 #       <JdGordon> rasher: GodEater: scorche: Zagor: Bagder: lambda: anyone_else_with_an_android: http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk <- svn with dynamic screen size patch. scrolling is broken but otherwise needs testing
13.11.17 #       <JdGordon> it's 7MB because it contains most of the fonts and all the cabbie images for all sizes
13.21.57 #       <amiconn> n1s, Buschel: If performance on coldfire goes down when moving code to iram, this does definitely not come from iram itself
13.22.59 #       <amiconn> It's rather that by moving code to iram, the functions remaining in dram move to different addresses relative to each other, which may affect caching
13.23.51 #       <amiconn> The coldfire instruction cache is direct mapped, that's why this effect can be quite noticeable
13.24.15 #       <amiconn> That said, coldfire profits much more from moving data to iram rather than code
13.29.22 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03teru (r28528): Fix themeeditor building by correcting spelling of 'seperate'.
13.31.02 #       <CIA-7> r28528 build result: All green
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13.35.35 #       <JdGordon> anyone know where the scrolling text is copied into the line buffer in the scroll enginge?
13.35.37 #       <JdGordon> I can't seem to find it
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13.36.54 #       <teru> somewhere in lcd-bitmap-common.c, i think.
13.37.24 #       <JdGordon> ah, found it
13.37.39 #       <JdGordon> strlcpy(s->line, string, sizeof s->line); <- that sizeof looks slightly suspicious
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13.38.00 #       <teru> why?
13.38.55 #       <JdGordon> because in the dynamic screen size patch that changes to a run time sized array instead of known at compile time
13.39.01 #       <JdGordon> which is why scrolling is snafu :)
13.39.06 #       <JdGordon>  p sizeof s->line
13.39.08 #       <JdGordon> $7 = 8
13.39.45 #       <JdGordon> wee :) easy fix
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14.03.00 #       <n1s> Buschel: something weird is going on, you rpatch doesn't change anything for the fuze and the md5 sums of the codec with and without the patcha re indded the same so this is probably just inaccurate measurement for some reason
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14.03.45 #       <Buschel> n1s: i am also struggling right now. measuring my patch against current svn does not change anything...
14.04.01 #       <Buschel> n1s: even patching v01 of the patch has no effect...
14.04.30 #       <teru> I'd like to ask for testers for FS#6321 - Universal Image Viewer.
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14.21.15 #       <Buschel> n1s: i cannot reproduce the speed up anymore... maybe just a mis-measurement? :/
14.25.05 #       <Buschel> n1s: even tried with the exact build environment (r28428)
14.25.54 #       * Buschel is sorry for the waste of time...
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15.02.40 #       <taodih> hi
15.03.35 #       <taodih> could i ask for some guidance in installing rockbox? (I have a problem with a bad checksum)
15.04.08 #       <taodih> it's for the ipod nano 1ste gen
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15.07.27 #       <soap> where are you seeing a bad checksum error?
15.07.51 #       <amoe> Hi all
15.08.22 #       <amoe> anyone know if rockbox works on the Sandisk Fuze+ models?  they seem to be new, don't know if they are different from the fuzev2.
15.08.35 #       <amoe> http://www.sandisk.com/microsites/sansafuzeplus/index.html
15.09.30 #       <taodih> right after starting up checksum would be 399A9A9 if that would be any help
15.09.56 #       <soap> taodih, what?  where?  You've lost me.
15.11.06 #       <taodih> right after unplugging and the ipod would restart (black background with silver apple logo , when booting up)
15.11.19 #       <taodih> ow wait nvm
15.11.33 #       <[Saint]> amoe: No, it doesn't.
15.11.34 #       <taodih> arg yea right after that
15.12.14 #       <taodih> did it again when said to restart ipod and go disk mode
15.12.32 #       <soap> How did you install Rockbox, and have you ever successfully booted into Rockbox?
15.12.39 #       <taodih> didint do diskmode though because i have done it already and no avial when reinstalling
15.12.43 #       <amoe> [Saint]: cheers :)  do you know if there's any plans for this, or I should buy a fuzev2 instead?
15.12.59 #       <amoe> [Saint]: I think I will probably buy a fuzev2 anyway but it would be good to know.
15.13.01 #       <taodih> the loader installed fine , rockbox also
15.13.02 #       <gevaerts> taodih: did you install manually?
15.13.15 #       <taodih> both 
15.13.44 #       <taodih> manually and auto
15.14.05 #       <soap> and you're sure you have a 1st generation nano and you are sure you installed a 1st generation nano firmware?
15.14.10 #       <taodih> yep
15.14.16 #       <gevaerts> A checksum error *usually* means that a rockbox build for the wrong player was installed
15.14.36 #       <soap> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1353
15.14.39 #       <taodih> :s weird.. i even checked with itunes again >.>
15.15.21 #       <taodih> ipod nano 1ste gen 2gb
15.15.51 #       <taodih> silver colour but don't think that matters :s
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15.16.25 #       <soap> it sure does
15.16.35 #       <soap> as there was never a silver 1st gen Nano.
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15.17.23 #       <taodih> o_O
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15.18.08 #       <soap> Please follow that link I posted and verify what, exactly, you have.
15.18.54 #       <taodih> i'll see if it's the 2gen
15.19.40 #       <taodih> thanks for the support ^^ 
15.20.02 #       <soap> How about you determine if it is even a _Nano_ and not a _Mini_.  RBUTil should have picked your iPod correctly in Auto mode.
15.20.35 #       <taodih> the rockbox installer? 
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15.20.44 #       <soap> Yes.  Rockbox Utility
15.20.59 #       <taodih> i did autocheck and it showed 1ste gen , that's why i'm so confused , but i will try 2de gen 
15.21.07 #       <soap> Did you happen to follow directions found on some other site than rockbox.org?
15.21.12 #       <gevaerts> pixelma: I set it to 50% now. I doubt if anyone ever notices that bar though
15.21.12 #       <soap> STOP
15.21.26 #       <taodih> nope 
15.21.31 #       <taodih> went to rockbox
15.21.33 #       <pixelma> gevaerts: I doo ;)
15.21.41 #       <pixelma> err... do
15.21.44 #       <soap> Don't just randomly try firmwares.  Properly determine what you have first.
15.21.49 #       <taodih> ok then 
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15.23.16 #       <gevaerts> I think rockbox utility will look for an existing .rockbox directory first to determine the model, and only look at things like USB ids if it doesn't find one 
15.23.22 #       <taodih> well , i checked the link you gave me and looked at 2de gen and it does looks like mine right here , htough wonder why it showed as 1ste gen , i'll try it. 
15.23.32 #       <taodih> hmmmm
15.23.38 #       <gevaerts> So if you first installed the wrong build, it will get it "wrong"
15.24.15 #       <taodih> well that could have been it if i didint restore it via itunes (still had the serial so)
15.25.27 #       <taodih> whats the best way ? uninstall via rockbox?
15.26.16 #       <gevaerts> remove the .rockbox directory
15.26.23 #       <taodih> ok
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15.30.46 #       <taodih> seems it got me the wrong version , thanks soap for the link , didint check that way , and thanks gevaerts for helping me to ^^
15.30.55 #       <taodih> have a nice sunday ^^
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15.37.05 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03teru (r28529): pictreflow: tweak alpha value for the case number of slides < 3 so that fading looks a bit more smooth. ...
15.38.51 #       <CIA-7> r28529 build result: All green
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17.21.24 #       * B4gder got a box of rocks
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17.23.10 #       * gevaerts is intrigued!
17.23.23 #       <B4gder> there will be a picture online shortly
17.23.38 #       <wodz> Can I ask someone with windows machine to compile binary of mkmpioboot (rbutil/mkmpioboot directory)?
17.24.09 #       <[Saint]> sure, may take a while to upload on a shitty connection here though.
17.25.35 #       <wodz> [Saint]: how work on 2bit battery is going BTW :-)
17.25.35 #       <B4gder> http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2010/11/07/the-award-for-me/ and scroll down... =)
17.26.49 #       <n1s> :)
17.26.51 #       <[Saint]> wodz: I was meaning to ask you the screen dimensions, so I could size it correctly.
17.27.39 #       <wodz> 128x128
17.28.38 #       <[Saint]> wodz: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-63e5b4f1.html
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17.31.21 #       <wodz> [Saint]: thx
17.32.19 #       <wodz> B4gder: could you upload the tool from the link provided by [Saint] to directory with mpio bootloader on download server?
17.32.55 #       <wodz> B4gder: hmm unpacked probably.
17.33.16 #       <[Saint]> yeah, I couldn't uplaod it as an .exe
17.33.18 #       <B4gder> I can do it later, I'm on a train right now and I rather not fiddle with those things right now
17.33.24 #       <[Saint]> probably a sensible restriction
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17.34.02 #       <wodz> B4gder: sure
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21.59.43 #       <cmdbbq> i have an old sansa e280 (e200 series v1) with an old version of rockbox on it. i want to revert to the stock firmware, so the device boots into that by default. i have no desire to revert to the original bootloader or whatever, i just want it to boot into sansa firmware by default. i remember doing this before, but not how. I think it just involved moving a file so it could not be found, but i do not remember. can anyone help? 
22.00.41 #       <JdGordon> I've rebuilt the dynamic screen size rockbox.apk so it copies the theme stuff onto the sdcard instead of flash, drops the disk usage from 40MB to 15MB (which is probably still too large). http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk  uninstall or clear rockbox's data to reclaim the space
22.07.03 #       <JdGordon> anyone who downloaded the apk last night should reget it anyway, I left in so it always unzips the rockbox.zip which is a bit crap
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22.10.25 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03jdgordon (r28530): android: don't crash if the user presses HOME while the loading screen is showing, this shuld also be made canceleable later
22.12.03 #       <CIA-7> r28530 build result: All green
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22.15.16 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03Buschel (r28531): Tiny refactoring of libmad's synthesis filter. This allows minor speed up and higher precision on ARM, plus a simplification in dct32 configuration.
22.17.10 #       <CIA-7> r28531 build result: All green
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22.42.33 #       <CIA-7> New commit by 03Buschel (r28532): Clean up libmad, remove unused compile options and source paths.
22.44.12 #       <CIA-7> r28532 build result: All green
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23.20.30 #       <Buschel> wow, r28531 had only minor effect on PP502x but quite large effect in S5L870x -> ~7% faster
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23.28.47 #       <amiconn> Buschel: Double negation error: "case of Coldfire it doesn't loose no additional precision."
23.29.27 #       <Buschel> amiconn: :( might change this with an upcoming commit
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23.32.27 #       <amiconn> Also, doesn't r28532 make the plain C version slower, or is y always a constant (and the >>3 merged in at compile time)?
23.34.33 #       <Buschel> y is always a constant and >>3 is done at compile time
23.37.36 #       <amiconn> On armv6(+) you can save one more cycle (and a scratch reg) by replacing smull -> smmul
23.38.05 #       <Buschel> yes, but I cannot test as I do not have an armv6+
23.38.13 #       <amiconn> However, this code is sub-optimal on armv6 because of the mul result latency
23.38.33 #       <Buschel> yes, there are some possible optimization in the synthesis asm
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23.39.21 #       <Buschel> damn, too many typos.... should better get some sleep
23.39.47 #       <amiconn> That's a general problem with longer asm blocks. Different arm versions need different scheduling for best performance
23.46.14 #       <Buschel> if anyone finds time to test libmad with http://pastie.org/1280189 vs. svn on a non-PP ARM target, this would be fine :) I would like to avoid damaging any performance before submitting
23.50.30 #       <n1s> also libmad is dualthreaded on pp so an optimization has to help the thread doing the most work for it to show up IIUC
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23.57.12 #       <Buschel> n1s: r28532 sped up PP502x by 0.25 MHz. This is nearly identical the theoretically expected max gain (2 channels * 44100 samples * 2.5 cycles per sample)
23.58.10 #       <Buschel> n1s: the effect on the S5L is much bigger -- don't ask me why...