--- Log for 08.11.110 Server: hubbard.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 5 hours ago 00.04.46 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.06.38 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.09.39 Quit Staphylo (Quit: Bye les gens =)) 00.12.25 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 00.21.29 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.22.40 Quit ender` (Quit: The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. 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03.20.27 # Or is the clef what is definitely wanted here? 03.21.15 # I don't really care all that much as long as it looks good 03.21.29 # the clef seems to be used much more in the website, but the rb logo is nice also 03.22.26 # I just think it's be nice to make use of the Rb with higher res screens 03.22.32 # *it'd 03.22.44 # the clef I will almost certainly use for the smaller icons 03.24.12 # well there is a good argument for using the same loo on all targets/screens/everywhere 03.30.18 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.31.17 Quit cjcopi (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.34.14 Quit grndslm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.44.47 # S_a_i_n_t: got a pic of the rb logo you want to use? 03.44.51 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@adsl-76-241-82-218.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 03.45.12 # \rbutil\icons IIRC 03.45.31 # rbutil uses it? 03.45.38 # * JdGordon| bangs head on keyboard 03.45.44 # rbutil\rbutilqt\icons 03.46.18 # ....something wrong? 03.46.46 # if rbutil was already using it android should have used it from the start then 03.46.55 # and the website icon also 03.47.05 # ah. 03.47.10 # ...Hmmm, ok. 03.47.14 # thee isnt much point in a logo if it isnt used consistantly 03.47.28 # the way I see it, there's 3 logos :/ 03.47.49 # the clef, the "full" rockbox logo (forums/mainpage/etc., and the "Rb" 03.48.23 # how does the Rb one look at the small size? 03.51.52 # It *could* be pulled off at 22x22...(actually 20x20 -2px "safety buffer" as they call it that all icons need include) 03.52.55 # this is definitaly one of those fun discussions with no right answer and no possibility of keeping everyone happy :/ 03.54.44 # indeed. 03.57.24 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 03.57.54 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.00.28 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04.02.40 Join xxcv [0] (~IMNOTADEV@c211-30-174-99.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 04.03.02 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.05.56 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 04.07.15 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.08.44 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.13.31 Quit elcan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.14.23 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.14.23 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.14.24 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.14.25 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.44 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.22.41 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.26.25 Join dys` [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f72225b.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.28.32 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.29.20 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f60f7.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.32.37 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.35.50 Join KiwiCam [0] (~Kiwicam@ip-118-90-75-25.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) 04.39.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.39.50 Quit KiwiCam (Client Quit) 04.40.11 Join KiwiCam [0] (~Kiwicam@ip-118-90-75-25.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) 04.44.16 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-4-128.cpe.cableone.net) 04.52.10 # * Dhraakellian tries out the android port of Rockbox on NITDroid 04.52.21 # pre-alpha Rockbox on alpha-quality android 04.52.26 # what could possibly go wrong? 04.56.07 Quit edboyer93 () 05.02.50 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.03.58 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 05.04.40 Join noamsml_ [0] (~noamsml@adsl-75-45-234-134.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 05.05.12 # I have created an animation on my theme and I have an idea for it, but don't know how to proceed, or even if it can be done. You'd be best to check it out in the simulator http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1121&target=sansaclipv2 for what it does. Can I turn that into a progress bar? How? 05.05.52 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.06.44 Quit noamsml (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.07.36 # what's your actual question? 05.08.02 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 05.10.42 # Sorry. If you press the H for hold you'll see the animation. It's the same bitmap repeated three times and set to cycle through randomly, kind of. Is there any way I can turn all that into a progress bar? 05.13.38 # Two other questions. Shall I ask them now? 05.14.00 # Unless you can think of a better time 05.16.47 # KiwiCam: ? 05.16.54 # The suspense is killing me... 05.17.40 # Could someone please explain in simple terms what a Glyph is? How much further can I go with my theme memory-wise? I've only got about 3KB left under system/rockbox info. There's shedloads I want to do with this theme. Also, if I start working on the FM screen say, does that have it's own memory limit? (I can't count). 05.18.20 # all theme elements need to reside in the same skin buffer 05.18.27 # Sorry. I'm a little worse for weather right now. Hard to type fast and get brain into gear. 05.18.30 # and a "glyph" is what you're seeing now. 05.18.38 # ie. one item of a font set 05.19.01 # a character in a font, like a, b, c etc. 05.19.07 # all "glyphs" 05.19.41 # Brilliant. Thanks. Now, skin buffer? 05.20.02 # 3Kb is essentially nothing. 05.20.42 Join M3DLG [0] (~M3DLG@bb-87-81-252-83.ukonline.co.uk) 05.20.59 # all the theme elements are stored in the same skin buffer, so if you want a fancy FM screen you'll need to cut back on multiple fonts, or bitmaps, from your WPS 05.21.18 # and/or SBS 05.22.01 # Darn. So, I need to tidy the code and reduce the size of the bitmaps. Correct? What else can I do? 05.22.21 # Darn. 05.22.26 # reduce bitmaps, don't load as many fonts (if you are). 05.22.59 # each additional font you use (other than the already loaded userfont) uses ~10Kb skin buffer iiuc 05.23.50 Quit grndslm (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.23.51 # OK. What do most clip users prefer as their favourite font then? 05.24.23 # you're not making it for "most clip users", you're making it for you ;) 05.24.39 # If other people like it, then great...if they don't no loss for you ;) 05.26.44 # How true. I'm just like a proud Daddy with a newborn. Now, back to the first question. Can I turn that animation into a progress bar? 05.27.26 # errrrr....what? 05.27.39 # without seeing your theme, I have no idea what you can/can't do. 05.29.00 # Would you mind viewing it? http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1121&target=sansaclipv2 05.29.16 # Press H for hold mode. 05.29.35 # I know the sim, but I'll use the themeeditor 05.30.04 # Hopefully that'll work. I haven't tried this on that. 05.30.09 # looking at the screenshots...the alignment is pretty off. 05.30.20 # is that intentional? 05.30.27 # That's why the theme title. 05.31.30 # I'm most definitely open to suggestions though. Tweaks are good. 05.33.02 # I have to sort out the language options. A few other things. Is there anything in the code that I could do to reduce the KB's. I suppose it's really the Bitmaps that are the memory hogs though, isn't it? 05.33.29 # FONTS ;) 05.33.39 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.33.46 # you've got ~40Kb of additional fonts loaded 05.33.52 # Oh yeah. I knew I forgot something else. :) 05.34.34 # What about the bitmaps? How do they affect the memory? 05.34.50 # of course. 05.35.43 Quit powell14ski_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.35.46 # OK. Tweak time then. So, how about that progress bar idea? Possible? 05.38.10 # So, if I use the same bitmap and create lots of viewports with the same bitmap. It only loads that bitmap into memory once. Correct? 05.38.48 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-4-128.cpe.cableone.net) 05.39.02 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.45.14 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7EFAD.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.45.33 # I have *no* idea what you're talking about with the progressbar 05.46.02 # I think you thought you asked a question, but didn't. 05.48.00 Quit grndslm (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.48.29 Join powell14ski_ [0] (~powell14s@c-67-177-228-132.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.49.51 # KiwiCam: %?mp<%al-:--%ac-:--%ar-:--|%al%pc%ac%pr%ar%pt|%al%pc%ac%pr%ar%pt|%al%pc%ac%pr%ar%pt|%al%pc%ac%pr%ar%pt> is a much cleaner way of doing line 73 05.50.45 # but I wouldn't have the total track time there personally...I'd just have the time elapsed on the left, and remaining on the right. 05.50.56 # total time is kinda irrelevant with those two values. 05.52.22 # in which case you'd use: %?mp<|%al%pc%ar%pr|%al%pc%ar%pr|%al%pc%ar%pr|%al%pc%ar%pr> 05.52.59 # notice I took out the "--:--"s 05.53.10 # you'll never see them in the .wps, they're just dead code. 05.53.23 # no stop state is ever displayed in the .wps 05.55.21 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-4-128.cpe.cableone.net) 05.56.42 # if that is the cleaner version I'd hate to see the current one 05.57.14 # and %?if(%mp, >, 0)<%al%pc%ar%pr> is better still 05.57.54 # why not just do %al%pc%ar%pr though? 05.58.00 # it will always be dispayed anyway 05.58.22 # yeah, I just twigged on that myself ;) 05.58.32 # Good advice. I'll have to look at them more carefully later. So, have you seen the animation on the Hold screen? 05.58.33 # %al%?mp<-:--|%pc|%pc|%pc|%pc>%ac%?mp<-:--|%pr|%pr|%pr|%pr>%ar%?mp<-:--|%pt|%pt|%pt|%pt> 05.58.54 # lovely :p 05.58.55 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.59.02 # was the original, I think the condition was thought needed because of not knowing the stop state is irrelevant in the .wps 05.59.34 # And no, I haven't...the themeeditor *hates* this theme. 05.59.42 # No idea why in particular, but it does. 06.01.14 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 06.01.26 Join dys`` [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f72c1b9.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.01.29 Quit dys` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.01.32 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ I suspected as much. I couldn't get it to run, but the sim loves it. 06.01.55 # the sim won't love it, it's just not smart enough not to ;) 06.02.32 # I don't mind :) 06.04.31 # Why does it not display track info/playlist position when hold is on? 06.05.16 Quit grndslm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.05.33 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@174-126-4-128.cpe.cableone.net) 06.07.22 Quit simonrvn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.07.35 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.13.51 # S_a_i_n_t: Because I haven't put it it the Hold code. I thought it would detract from my masterpiece ;) 06.13.52 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@209.165-ppp.3menatwork.com) 06.14.14 # But, if I could get the progress bar idea working.... 06.15.12 # I'd put it back in. But, then, if I could get the progress bar working, I'd put that animation in the WPS screen. 06.15.18 # you need to explain to me what "the progressbar idea" is. 06.15.32 # I'm not in your head, I don't know what you're imagining. ;p 06.16.02 # On the hold screen. Do you see the moving animation - 1 bitmap repeated three times displayed along the top of the screen? 06.16.24 # No, but...go on. 06.16.40 # I'd like to use that as my Progress Bar. 06.17.06 # Hold on... 06.17.37 # you can use any image as a progressbar...but am animated progressbar is not such a good idea 06.17.43 # not sure it's even possible 06.17.48 # *an 06.20.01 # If you look in the manual/wiki it explains how to use a bitmap as a progressbar quite well 06.20.22 # http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12359987/dump%20101108-181734.bmp http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12359987/dump%20101108-181735.bmp http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12359987/dump%20101108-181737.bmp I'd like that bar to increase (show) from 0 to 100% across the screen. 06.20.23 # there's quite a few ways to do it, also. 06.20.37 # yes, check the manual. 06.20.39 # While it's animated. 06.20.42 # it's all explained there. 06.20.52 # no...you can't do it animated. 06.21.10 # Great. So, it IS possible. Now, what are my chances? 06.21.16 # ;) 06.21.32 # Darn. 06.22.23 # no, it's not possible to display the progressbar animated...perhaps you could use multiple progressbars with subline transitions but it would probably look crap. 06.23.12 # actually, yes. that would almost certainly work, but I'm really not sure how good it would look. 06.23.14 # Could I put it on the wishlist? :) 06.24.15 # As there's a way it can be done already, I'd doubt it. 06.24.25 # you've got three images you want to display right? 06.24.25 # "multiple progress bars with subline transitions." Hmm... I could try. A puzzle. 06.24.30 # you can put anything on the wishlist 06.24.41 # it actually getting done is an entirely different story though 06.24.43 # Yes. 06.24.51 # so use sublines alternating a 0.1 seconds to display 3 seperate progressbars. 06.24.58 Nick dys`` is now known as dys (~andreas@krlh-5f72c1b9.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.24.59 # kinda dirty, but it will work. 06.25.21 # It'll be interestin gto see. So, memory frugal? 06.25.55 # What the most popular device used on here? iPod I presume. 06.26.15 # %t(blah)%pb(-,-,-,-,blah.bmp);%t(blah)%pb(-,-,-,-,blah2.bmp);%t(blah)%pb(-,-,-,-,blah3.bmp) should work as you intend it. 06.26.43 # replacing "blah"s and "-"s where appropraite of course 06.26.55 # I'll print out your code suggestions above and understand them before I put them in the theme. I think I'm burning dinner. 06.27.15 # you'll want the lowest possible timeout for the animation, so "blah" would == 0.1 06.29.43 # Burnt Dinner's ready! (Almost). I'll go eat and read this stuff again. Thanks. 06.33.04 # Oh yeah. 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I haven't really been able to come up with anything better than http://imgur.com/6F8jy.png 11.59.56 # I can make it smaller if you need me to though. 12.00.35 # I'm still trying to figure out some nice sort of logo for the battery. but doing 4-grey stuff from scratch sucks ;) 12.00.35 # * wodz looking 12.01.11 Join skx [0] (~skx@d51A4AF07.access.telenet.be) 12.03.19 # isnt that why we did progressbar style tags? 12.04.07 # in the bootloader? 12.04.32 # S_a_i_n_t: As I said earlier I quite like it. Maybe the 'positive terminal' should not get grayed when full. We will see how this looks on the device 12.04.34 # bootloader animations? lame! 12.04.51 # but I agree, progressbar style would be better 12.05.02 # I'm thinking about putting the mpio logo on it. 12.05.12 # s/it/the battery/ 12.05.16 # what do you mean by progressbar style? 12.05.18 # and somethimg a bit more similar to the USB plug icon as mine was 12.05.31 # wodz: the fill part is filled programatically 12.05.57 # much smoother than images 12.06.09 # JdGordon: thats easy 12.06.12 # not only at 1/4th, half, 3/4th, full though 12.06.50 # I'll write simple plugin to simulate the screen and see 12.07.19 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.07.20 # wodz: indeed 12.07.51 # S_a_i_n_t: pretty please can you look at the wps touch popup area please? 12.08.42 # wodz: you want this big image in the bootlader? really? 12.09.09 # Zagor: can android and sdl be added to the build table? 12.09.40 # JdGordon: what's the problem with that if there is place left in flash? 12.09.41 # obviously not the entire strip. ;) 12.10.09 # wodz: no problem, its just our bootloaders are usually boring (not saying that is a good thing though) 12.11.15 # JdGordon: Flashing text Charging... isn't very spectacular in did. 12.15.37 # are there any objections to commiting a new setting for the start position of the DB (like the file browser setting) 12.18.01 # how does it work with a custom tagnavi? 12.18.25 # totally unrelated 12.18.31 # this sets the start directory 12.18.41 # tagnavi constrols how the db is navigated 12.19.00 # hmm? What's the "start directory" in the DB then? 12.20.07 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 12.20.33 # tagnavi has something like this? 12.20.37 # * JdGordon has a look 12.21.29 # no, I don't know what you're talking about 12.22.27 # well, my understanding was that you mean the queries like "Album", "Artist" etc. What if you customised this selection and do not have these using a custom tagnavi? 12.23.27 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.23.36 # no, it controls the dirstory to start trawling for files 12.23.47 # right now it is / which is very bad on app builds 12.23.59 # nothing to do with tagnavi 12.25.21 # that's how I understood your question. Can't you make it dependent on where your start directory is set for the file browser? No extra setting needed if I imagine it correctly now 12.26.57 # I Don't see how they are really related 12.26.57 # especially where the database starts searching is nothing the user sees 12.27.44 # the use case on regular builds is probably a more user friendly way of doing tagcache.ignore 12.28.23 # database.ignore, whatever it is 12.30.28 # wodz: you broke sdl :( 12.30.37 # /home/jonno/rockbox-git/apps/debug_menu.c:102:26: error: debug-target.h: No such file or directory 12.30.42 # unless I need to reconfigure? 12.31.01 # I just expect quite some confusion as to what the setting does as it is something completely internal, that's all (as I was) 12.31.23 Join lixus00 [0] (~lixxus@78-86-253-21.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 12.32.35 # I wouldn't quite say that, but yes it is a bit limited 12.32.56 # Obviously the proper fix is make database not crash 12.34.40 # wodz: I have a feeling you might like this better? http://imgur.com/40cUx.png 12.35.49 # download here: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-4b7a73a6.html 12.36.36 # S_a_i_n_t: nice - but this one has disadvantage that it cannot be filled with the strip 12.36.53 Part lixus00 12.37.08 # pixelma: did you have chance to test FS#11725? 12.37.17 # "the strip"? 12.37.22 # wodz: ^ 12.37.50 # S_a_i_n_t: as pixelma and Jd said - progressbar style filling 12.38.10 # Oh, right. yes. 12.38.21 # damn. 12.39.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.40.10 # there was a small error in the pic in the last link: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-69a71fea.html 12.40.14 # that fixes it. 12.40.18 # JdGordon: sdl? 12.41.20 # I think it looks nice with the logo in the middle, but it is quite a big image and it would save a lot using only one frame and filling it with a progressbar. 12.43.14 # hehe we can use putpixel and some array to draw logo on top of this :-) 12.43.24 # quite nasty hack :-) 12.43.27 # JdGordon: I've been meaning to add android to the build system for a while now, but haven't gotten around to it 12.43.50 # Can't have the "fill" as one image from the strip behind the wire frame image of the battery/logo w/transparency? 12.44.04 # wodz: I struggled for ages thinking what to put in the center of the battery, nothing I did looked right...for ages. 12.44.27 # then that suddenly came to me and it only took ~6 mins to do ;) 12.44.41 # I should have thought of that first. 12.44.57 # soap_: I don't think 2bit lcd driver know about transparency 12.45.27 # I guess the logo would be more interesting in the background and then it gets covered by the filling progressbar? Besides I think the graphics look a bit plain 12.45.54 # and I don't think it needs the logo at all, especially not the Mpio one 12.46.01 # 4-grey is *not* my specialty ;) 12.46.22 # JdGordon: we don't need I/O debug on RaaA don't we? 12.47.00 # I wonder what was wrong with my versions I did a long time ago for possibly the H100 which weren't used to until now 12.47.26 # guess that makes me a bit biased too ;) 12.47.48 # pixelma: nothing wrong - I just wanted to see alternative 12.51.07 # wodz: about your manual patch - it looked good in a quick glance I took on Saturday but haven't tried compiling or so. One thing that made me wonder was the UseOption "iriver" in the platform file (guess that was an oversight) and you probably need the PDF and PNG versions of the SVG for inclusion in HTML and PDF manual, not sure which ones need what and which you tried 12.51.34 # just two minor things that came to my mind, nice work so far :) 12.53.50 # I thought I changed UseOption to mpiohd200 in manual. About pdf and png - they are included but diffstat don't show binary file blobs in output 12.55.02 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 12.56.04 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.56.06 # ah, ok 12.56.14 # pixelma: I see it, what is \edef than? 12.58.08 # just a bunch of extra definitions, the UseOptions can ve used later for inclusion and exclusion of parts 12.58.55 # s/ve/be 12.58.59 # so what does \edef\UseOption{\UseOption,iriver} mean? 13.00.21 # you define one ore option you can use later, every part that's inside an \opt{iriver} will be used if you set "iriver" this way 13.01.48 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 13.01.52 # I see 13.05.21 Quit elcan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.05.42 # Zagor: SDL app 13.05.45 # wodz: probably not 13.05.52 # removing that #include fixes it 13.06.03 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.07.02 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 13.07.06 # JdGordon: I know - it should be wrapped in #if (CONFIG_PLATFORM & PLATFORM_NATIVE) #endif 13.07.15 # I think 13.07.52 # but call to dbg_ports() has much more complicated define based on CPU used which is silly IMO 13.08.08 # is there some command to make all voicefiles? 13.08.27 # I really don't want to have to do them all manually ;) 13.10.08 # hmm some bustard is biding HD300 also :/ 13.11.06 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.11.38 # and speaking about RaaA - what is the point to offer simulator build option? 13.11.40 # JdGordon: as opposed to all the sdl sims? 13.11.47 # yes 13.12.00 # different code for bits of it 13.12.05 # ok 13.13.39 # New commit by 03wodz (r28533): fix sdl RaaA build 13.14.01 # JdGordon: voila 13.14.07 # thanks :) 13.14.35 # wodz: in place of "iriver" there should be something else than mpiohd200 as you already have that. This option is meant for things that a few players of a specific manufacturer or type have in common, e.g. if your hd300 port takes of and the hd200 and hd300 have things in common 13.15.26 # pixelma: thx, I'll remove this for now (until I get working hd300) 13.15.28 # r28533 build result: All green 13.17.42 # I probably would set it to something like mpio even if it's not useful with only one target so far but it doesn't hurt 13.19.10 # does ~ work in calls to open()? 13.19.13 Join lixus00 [0] (~lixxus@78-86-253-21.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 13.19.17 Part lixus00 13.19.17 # or is that entirely a shell thing? 13.19.22 # a shell thing 13.19.42 # I think there was such question asked recently - Is it possible to get funding for a player? 13.19.58 # wodz: sure 13.20.01 # wodz: yes it is 13.20.30 # JdGordon: getpwuid() is the "normal" *nix way to get the home dir 13.20.44 # ta 13.20.45 # or a way at least 13.21.19 # yeah, sort of hoping I wouldnt have to worry about that at all though... oh well no big deal 13.22.24 # pixelma: have you tried FS#11725? 13.23.40 # Bagder, Zagor: what is the procedure to apply for such funds? 13.23.55 # beg :p 13.24.05 # teru: sorry, no. I forgot about it 13.24.25 # wodz: you talk to me :-) 13.25.29 # ok. 13.32.19 # Bagder: android isn't normal unix :) 13.32.40 # not sure if that's the topic here 13.32.41 # true 13.33.17 # but the question wasn't explicitly about android... 13.34.15 # Bagder: have you uploaded mkmpioboot binaries to download server? 13.34.40 # no, I compltely forgot about that... 13.35.11 # * JdGordon wasnt asking about android at all actually :) 13.37.25 # yeah, for once :) 13.46.22 Quit user890104 () 13.47.09 # concerning FS#11736 - anyone object to bump BATTERY_CAPACITY_MAX to 1500 for minis? 13.47.56 # not i 13.51.11 # New commit by 03wodz (r28534): Bump BATTERY_CAPACITY_MAX to 1500 for ipod mini. 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I crosscompiled it with ARM-non-linux-gnueabi and also cross compiled libsdl for my player but I seem to have trouble since my rootfs is a cramfs ready only 19.28.10 # is there a way to adjust all calls to NAND which is readwrite? 19.28.32 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 19.28.37 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.28.40 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-129-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.33.03 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.36.46 Quit kazaik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.37.19 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p4FD4F14D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.37.19 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.37.19 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.50.33 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 19.51.41 Join KiwiCam [0] (~Kiwicam@ip-118-90-86-119.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) 19.51.53 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5BBDC.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.52.10 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B66996.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.57.51 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.00.45 Join Alchimysta [0] (~97504127@giant.haxx.se) 20.02.48 # S_a_i_n_t: JdGordon: Hi Guys. I've just had time to go through the suggested changes for the line 73, but I see you've gone full circle. I see what you mean with those Stop state things "-:--". That code was lifted from someone else's I'm going to remove the theme. I'll bear that in mind in future. I'm going to remove the Total Track Time as suggested. 20.02.58 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-81-220.unitymediagroup.de) 20.04.02 # hei guys 20.04.38 # With those suggestion about using sublines. Can I do the same with the Volume Bar in my theme? At the moment it's on constantly. I'd like to be able to have it appear at my choosing. 20.04.51 # Hey. 20.04.51 Quit Alchimysta (Client Quit) 20.06.42 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host204-54-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.10.55 Join Staphylo [0] (~Bullet@AMontsouris-159-1-109-87.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.11.42 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 20.12.40 # KiwiCam: have a look at the %?mv tag 20.14.08 # hey I have a question about rockbox as application. I crosscompiled it with ARM-non-linux-gnueabi and also cross compiled libsdl for my player but I seem to have trouble since my rootfs is a cramfs ready only 20.14.14 # is there a way to adjust all calls to NAND which is readwrite? 20.14.45 # slater: you asked this question already 20.15.14 # So I guess nobody can answer it? 20.20.13 # slater, out of curiosity, what player is that ? :P 20.20.24 # its an Samsung YP-R0 20.20.41 # lol! i hacked the YP-Q2 20.20.56 # yeah so I guess you ran into the same trouble? 20.21.07 # or are you not using as application but as firmware? 20.21.49 # it runs linux too so i preferred to keep it, i tried to build it as an app but didint compile 20.22.17 # i got it compiled but I am stuck at read only filesystem 20.22.19 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@c-98-231-87-43.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 20.22.46 # I need to change paths but no luck so far even changes in makefile dont get recognized :( 20.22.52 # dont ya have the /mnt/usb tree ? 20.23.19 # yes I have /mnt/media0 20.23.34 # but rockbox executable gets compiled with using /usr/local 20.23.35 Join Staphylo` [0] (~Bullet@AMontsouris-159-1-109-87.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.23.37 # and stuff 20.23.49 # but it can't write there so I wanted to change to /mnt/media0 20.23.54 # but it didnt compile that way 20.27.11 Quit Staphylo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.27.12 # ha saratonga just posted me back instead of make fullinstall try make zip and extract it to your player 20.27.15 # that should do 20.27.57 # slater: ln -s /mnt/media0/local /usr/local ? 20.28.07 # mount -bind /mnt/media0/local /usr/local ? 20.28.17 # if youre fighting the filesystem, move the filesystem 20.28.25 # can not link that way cramfs is read only :( 20.28.33 # then mount -bind 20.28.34 # i would need to repack the firmware 20.28.43 # mount -bind can do wonderful things 20.28.56 Quit Staphylo` (Quit: Bye les gens =)) 20.29.00 # rockbox is in folder /mnt/media0/ypr0 20.29.10 # how would I mount -bind then? 20.30.11 # well where does rockbox want to look for/write to its files? 20.30.14 # /usr/local/rockbox ? 20.30.21 # yes 20.30.48 # mount -bind /mnt/media0/ypr0 /usr/local/rockbox ; mind you, /usr/local/rockbox needs to exist (even if nothing is inside) 20.31.20 # ok that shouldnt be a problem to repack the firmware with empty folder (i am almost pushing max with libsdl already ;)) 20.31.31 # thanks alot!!!!!!! I will try it 20.31.41 # it should work :) 20.31.57 # ive done similar mounts to install gentoo (binding proc/dev/sys into the chroot) 20.32.07 Quit casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 20.32.07 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.32.09 # libsdl wasnt included in the sammie fw ? 20.32.20 # Or just tell rockbox to use a different prefix? 20.33.05 # LemonMan: i compiled it myself and mkcramfs to build a new rootfs 20.33.35 # gevaerts: its ignored my prefix settings for some reason 20.35.29 # pixelma: Thanks. I'll have a look. 20.37.10 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.37.25 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.37.41 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5BBDC.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.39.22 # is there actually a command to check wheter libsdl is actually working? From what I see all sdls are linked and sdl-config is configured right in /bin 20.39.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.42.00 # Which Fonts are the default ones? Are they the ones that come with the Simulator? 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21.19.05 # Some gentoo thing I think 21.20.37 # Flyspray tasks with hardly any description, yet with an "update it, please" annoy me slightly 21.22.19 # an updated ebuild for gentoo, for rbutil 21.22.37 # because the gentoo people feel they should compile rbutil from scratch in order to use it once to install rockbox 21.23.01 # we should just delete the very old ebuild that's on the wiki 21.23.57 # I don't really see the point of flyspray patches for files on the wiki... 21.25.16 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r28535): update the asap codec to version 2.1.2 21.25.22 # * Torne doesn't see the point in supporting people compiling rbutil from scratch as end users, tbh :) 21.25.35 # we have perfectly good statically linked binaries 21.25.56 # Torne, but .... it's so much faster if you compile it yourself! :P 21.25.58 # Torne: welcome to gentoo. :) 21.26.07 # --funroll-loops!!!!! 21.26.12 # * mystica555 ducks 21.26.24 # er -funroll 21.26.24 # either 21.26.25 # mystica555: i'm not talking about their behaviour, i'm sugesting we should just not have the ebuild there ;) 21.26.27 # <.< 21.26.36 # hehe 21.27.00 # rbutil is in the sunrise overlay already 21.27.01 # r28535 build result: All green 21.27.05 # 1.2.7 21.27.10 # new/old ? 21.28.14 # i guess someone could write an ebuild that just downloads the latest statically linked binary for the appropriate arch and sticks it in /usr/bin :) 21.28.26 # indeed 21.28.27 # /opt/local/bin 21.28.28 # ;) 21.28.35 # or /opt/rbutil/bin 21.28.38 # as the current naming convention may be 21.36.34 # is the sdl/simulator compilation known to be broken on os x or am I just doing something wrong? 21.37.19 Join Staphylo [0] (~Bullet@AMontsouris-159-1-109-87.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.41.16 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6797A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.42.29 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.43.01 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 21.45.17 # New commit by 03bertrik (r28536): Change an #ifdef CONFIG_TUNER into #if CONFIG_TUNER (CONFIG_TUNER is always defined, just 0 if no there is no tuner) 21.46.55 # r28536 build result: All green 21.48.13 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection timed out) 21.49.15 # bah, IAP seems to be linked to PP ipods right now 21.50.15 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 21.50.33 # bertrik: you see why i haven't bothered to touch this yet? 21.50.38 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5BBDC.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.53.49 # the whole IAP subsystem seems a bit dodgy 21.59.24 # may I ask to look at FS#11735? 22.02.49 Quit Llorean (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.03.54 Join earcar [0] (~carmine@93-39-184-152.ip77.fastwebnet.it) 22.04.52 Join kadoban [0] (~mud@cpe-67-247-80-129.rochester.res.rr.com) 22.08.03 Join Noteboom [0] (~mjv39474@static-70-20-198-5.phil.east.verizon.net) 22.12.03 # does anybody know why I get the follwing error when using -prefix=/mnt/media0/yp-r0 in configure when trying to make zip rockbox as application : unrecognized command line option "-frbdir=" 22.15.27 # i'm going to close that task then 22.29.42 Join Kupop [0] (~Kupo@cpc2-bsfd7-2-0-cust220.5-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 22.30.50 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.32.51 # pixelma: ping 22.35.15 Quit parafin (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 22.35.29 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 22.37.17 # yes 22.39.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.41.42 # pixelma: please look FS#11744 (you speak german I belive). 22.41.50 # s/look/look at/ 22.43.00 # pixelma: What is the cause of the warning like this: LaTeX Warning: Reference `sec:feedback' on page 5 undefined on input line 54. ? 22.45.53 # can't remember seeing these but building the manual puts out tons of warnings I usually ignore if I still get the manual (currently non-stop mode when building is default much to my regret as it doesn't stop on a real error anymore) 22.48.22 # pixelma: this warning about reference is not harmless as it produce something like 'refer to section ?? (page ??) for details' 22.49.19 # and your manual looks correct otherwise - does it have the table of contents in the beginning? 22.49.30 # no 22.50.10 # there is empty page with Contents at the top 22.50.21 # mystica555: Hey it worked I narrowed it down to one error : /mnt/media0/yp-r0/rockbox: line 1: syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") 22.50.35 # what error does this mean in my compiled application? 22.51.50 # wodz: then something is still broken for you, AFAIU the manual compile consists of a few runs, one is the text and then the second (or even more) run "collects" all necessary page numbers which it can only know how the PDF "looks" after the first successfull run 22.52.19 # I was referring to your bug report before btw. not the warning about the reference 22.53.08 # slater: ummm 22.53.23 # what is giving that error? 22.53.59 # wodz: bluebrother has more insight on LaTeX in general, I think he can help more about the bug report. I could have a look if I find why your manual isn't working yet - 22.54.10 # the rockbox executable 22.54.11 # is this with your Mpio patch? 22.54.27 # slater: is it a script? 22.54.38 # cos that makes no sense to me otherwise 22.54.41 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@58.108.117.12) 22.54.57 # crap no its the binary rockbox application 22.55.05 # i tried to sh it :) 22.55.22 # and its complaining about a syntax error? 22.55.27 # yes 22.55.31 # strange.. 22.55.45 # here is the command : sh /mnt/media0/yp-r0 & 22.56.00 # why are you running a dir? 22.56.20 # oh sorry : sh /mnt/media0/yp-r0/rockbox of course 22.56.52 # sh can't run binary files unless you sh -c it.. 22.57.00 # ahhh thanks alot!!! 22.57.05 Join Staphylo` [0] (~Bullet@AMontsouris-159-1-109-87.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.57.07 # or just execute it without sh 22.57.12 # not sure what the need to run it with sh is 22.57.29 # will it run as an independent thread? 22.57.37 # pixelma: I changed few things. 1) I changed \edef\UseOption{\UseOption,iriver} to \edef\UseOption{\UseOption,mpio} in manual/platform/mpiohd200.tex 2) Commented out HAVE_QUICKSCREEN in firmware/export/config/mpiohd200.h 22.57.49 # the player needs scripts to run with & otherwise not executed I don't even know why ;) 22.58.02 # strange.. 22.58.12 # and yeah it should atleast run by itself 22.58.25 # great thanks a lot! 22.58.32 # I'll tell you in a second 22.58.41 # /path/to/rockbox & if you need it to background 22.59.02 # oh that works for binaries too? 22.59.13 # yea 22.59.22 # & just backgrounds anything you run 22.59.25 Quit Staphylo (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.59.48 # yeah you right I just recalled it :) 23.01.01 Join kazaik [0] (~kazaik@pool-72-81-202-127.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) 23.01.29 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 23.01.53 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Help me, i got shot! *DIES*) 23.03.11 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 23.04.13 # crap no executable flag on the fat32 possible :( 23.04.23 # oh its fat32 23.04.24 # ? 23.04.32 # yes the nand is :( 23.04.33 # make an ext3 disk image and mount that then... 23.04.57 # dd if=/dev/zero of=someimage.ext3 bs=1048576 count=however_many_megs 23.04.57 # pixelma: yeh this two changes are the cause of lack of TOC and broken refs 23.05.02 # then mkfs.ext3 the image file 23.05.05 # mount -o loop -bind it 23.05.31 # make sure the os on the player has ext3 tho 23.05.33 # it may need to be ext2 23.05.37 # or a special kernel 23.05.42 # mystica555: hehem, rather hardcore aproach 23.06.03 # im a linux geek who put swap on his G1 before it was the cool thing to do... 23.06.10 # cos that thing has anemic ram 23.06.25 # i got a saying 'bruteforcing my way thru linux for 12 years' 23.06.39 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.06.44 # this is genius! 23.06.50 # I'll try that than 23.07.10 # I would consider minix fs for embedded system 23.07.21 # *shrug* 23.07.23 # much smaller than ext2/3 23.07.36 # that depends 23.07.42 # wodz: they shouldn't. I could imagine though that they both (or one of these) require a reconf and a clean build, did you do that? 23.07.47 # the inode tables and stuff arent rather big.. 23.08.05 # and you can tune2fs the thing to not have any root-reserved space as well 23.08.28 # mystica555: I am talk about size of fs driver in kernel 23.08.35 # s/talk/talking/ 23.09.19 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.10.03 # pixelma: yes I did make clean, ../tools/configure, make manual and no go 23.10.21 # wodz: oh ok 23.10.34 # never used it; didnt know 23.10.55 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 23.12.43 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049128241.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.13.26 # mystica: mount doesnt work on my linux machine 23.13.45 # mount -t loop? 23.14.37 # -o loop 23.15.06 Quit kazaik (Quit: Leaving) 23.15.23 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.15.32 # doesn't like it :( 23.16.01 # mystica: could I dd the rockbox folder structure and mount this instead with loop and bind to usr/local ? 23.17.02 # pixelma: victory!!! make manual must be called twice to generate TOC and references 23.17.22 # that sounds wrong 23.17.49 # but works :-) 23.17.53 # did you try with an existiong target? 23.18.01 # *existing 23.18.07 # one minute 23.19.47 # pixelma: H300 builds in one run but *I think* it processes files twice. 23.20.25 # pixelma: Maybe the errors from first run doesn't allow to make second pass in case of MPIO 23.20.27 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 23.20.28 # yes that's what it should do and if it doesn't then there is a mistake in your manual which prevents the second run 23.21.51 # So first run has to be error free to proceed with the second pass? 23.22.05 # yes 23.22.12 # and no 23.22.24 # to proceed the second pass correctly 23.22.53 # I see a lot of missing "control references" \ButtonSomething 23.22.59 # so why doing make manual twice in row work? 23.23.34 Join bailey_ [0] (adbe5d55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.190.93.85) 23.23.34 # anyway I have to fix missing controls 23.23.51 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 23.24.04 # can i get help on installin iloader on my nano 2g? tried their irc but i was there for a while. 23.25.26 # the patcher keeps tellin me it wont support the ipod nano 2g but it states that the patcher is for the nano 2g 23.25.39 # With rate adjustment in rockbox are there better or worse codec for speed adjustment when using the spoken word 23.26.14 # no one? 23.26.15 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 23.26.44 # bailey_: it's off-topic for one and for the other - you probably won't find many people knowing about it here, I don't 23.27.07 # the ppl in iloadre told me to try here 23.27.13 # hm, we really should release a new ipodpatcher 23.27.27 # jus trying to get this psgroove patch to work for my ipod 23.27.33 # bailey_: there's a bug in the released ipodpatcher binaries that causes this 23.27.41 # Just build your own from svn 23.27.48 # tru tru 23.28.06 # ipodpatcher/iloader? I'm confused 23.28.11 # i jus wanna get this psgroove port goin. 23.28.31 # a boot menu would help me out. the only one i knew of was iloader and it wont work 23.29.47 # hm, iloader is the ipodlinux bootloader? 23.30.03 # as far as I know 23.30.04 # If so, it won't work on the nano 2g 23.30.35 # it was a boot menu that allowed the nano 2g to boot rockbox. 23.30.50 # it says once im in the cmd that it is for ipod nano 2g. 23.31.05 # unless im bein strung around. 23.31.07 # wodz: if there are no other errors then building of the manual will start working correctly once you have the keymap-* files filled out correctly 23.31.32 # ipodpatcher supports the nano 2g. That doesn't mean that everything that ever used ipodpatcher to install supports the nano 2g 23.31.55 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.31.56 # hm. 23.31.58 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 23.32.05 # i understand that but the iloader websight gives instructions on installin it on the nano 2g. 23.32.12 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 23.32.13 # right 23.32.14 # bailey_: i don't know how ps3grove works, but you're probably best just installing rockbox normally and then putting a patched build on once you have it working 23.32.21 # Too many things starting with i* 23.33.09 # As soon as it's not rockbox, we're likely not to know much about it 23.33.17 # found youtube vids of iloader on nano 2g. jus wanted a way to keep my current build of rockbox while messin with this psgroove patch 23.33.49 # Compile ipodpatcher from svn 23.34.05 # thats cool. be back in a month or so hopefully with a working boot menu and a nice psgroove patch. 23.34.12 # jus wanted a quicker start 23.34.16 Quit bailey_ (Quit: Page closed) 23.34.23 # does ps3groove even work with the nano2g? 23.34.30 # i though they just hacked it to work with PP 23.34.48 # I guess that's where this month comes in? 23.35.47 # slater: you wouldn't really be able to dd a directory structure.. what exactly did you do that its not liking? 23.36.06 # it was just a typo sorry about that 23.36.17 # slater: ah, did it work now? heh 23.36.56 # yes I do have it -rwxrwxrwx 1 16 185 2032959 Sep 21 2010 rockbox looks good huh ;) 23.37.27 # cool 23.37.29 # but still my proccess is not started > piping to file doesnt give me anything 23.37.35 # hm 23.38.13 # if its the wrong architecture it should at least give me something shouldnt it? 23.38.25 # or if libsdl is missing 23.38.36 # ps aux | grep rockbox doesnt give me anything either 23.38.43 # theoretically.. 23.38.53 # do you have a command shell on that player? heh 23.39.10 # ash 23.39.21 # i cracked firmware to be able to run scripts 23.39.28 # i place them on the players nand 23.39.50 # luckily fat 32 and no execute doesnt matter when using sh script 23.40.37 # how can i check if my player has big or little endian? that could be the deal 23.42.25 Quit notlistening (Remote host closed the connection) 23.42.36 Part domonoky 23.42.55 Quit Kupop (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.43.44 # that, im not entirely sure about.. 23.44.27 # its sort of hard not having a interactive command shell on the device in question 23.44.47 # i just tried to run the compiled ARM version of my rockbox on my linux ubuntu ... its running ?!?!? 23.45.10 # do you know if I could use the usb port to run dropbear? 23.45.17 # that would be awesome 23.45.51 # its likely you could.. depending on how it treats the usb port. i know the G1 can do usb-net via rndis/cdc_ether 23.45.58 # but again, more kernel modules 23.46.05 # as for why its running on ubuntu.. sure its an arm binary? 23.46.08 # run 'file rockbox' 23.46.48 # it says ELF 32 BIT x86 ?!? 23.46.52 # how did this happen? 23.46.57 # what does any of this have to do with rockbox? 23.47.12 # krazykit: hes hacking rockbox onto a samsung linux based music player? 23.47.26 # that'd do it, then. 23.47.27 # as RaaA 23.47.41 # vs a direct arm booting binary etc 23.48.47 # and i just thought; you don't really need -bind if you aren't mounting a directory into a directory; you just mount -o loop /path/to/imagefile /path/to/mountpoint 23.49.09 # so where did I make the mistake when building the binary?!? I am a little confused now i used: ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- make 23.49.46 # that i can't really help with... im good with linux; crosscompiling, ive not done..and ive sadly not even compiled rockbox either. lol. 23.49.53 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 23.50.05 # maybe somebody else can help 23.51.36 # when i run ../tools/configure --target=arm-eabi it says unsupported target plattform 23.52.26 # its called "arm-elf-eabi" in rockbox 23.52.34 # crap thank you :) 23.52.34 # since we use elf 23.52.53 # hm still complaining 23.52.57 # of course you probably don't want to use that if you're compiling an app 23.53.04 # Our crosscompilers aren't very likely to give you suitable binaries for your platform 23.53.09 # since you'll need to use whatever toolchain your distro requires 23.53.21 # IIRC the docs you linked before explained how to setup the cross compilers 23.53.28 # thats the codesourcery frame work 23.53.29 # did you check them out? 23.53.44 # yes i did and I thought thats what I did 23.53.58 # what binary did they produce? 23.54.00 # instead of setting target in configure i used my crosscompiler 23.54.08 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 23.54.14 # elf 32bit LSB x86 23.54.24 # i somehow don't think its crosscompiling properly :\ 23.54.25 # well thats wrong 23.54.34 # its not finding the right toolchain or somesuch 23.54.36 # double check and see if you can figure out what you missed 23.54.49 # IIRC they should give you some kind of ARM-EABI compiler 23.54.59 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.55.07 # if you don't end up with that, go back to step 1 :) 23.55.29 # i need to use a different one which came with the opensource dev kit from samsung 23.55.41 # yes thats what i'm referring to 23.57.47 # what was the idea of trying to use rockbox as an application anyway? is there something about the original firmware that you'd lose with rockbox? 23.58.59 # well bootloader sits in an non accessiable nand, other thing is its already running linux and it has divx and mp4 video playback which is also not shabby at all but the original firmware still lacks alot