--- Log for 26.11.110 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 17 hours ago 00.07.06 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048006242.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.08.05 Quit mortalscan (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.09.24 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.10.29 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 00.10.29 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 00.10.29 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.18.40 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 00.19.09 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 00.22.54 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-102-185.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 00.23.51 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.25.33 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 00.25.50 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.26.38 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.27.25 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 00.28.08 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.32.07 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-103-50.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 00.34.14 Join mortalscan [0] (~mortalsca@109.169.55.155) 00.44.54 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: Reconnecting) 00.44.59 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.48.59 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.50.52 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 00.51.30 # saratoga: it's impossible to tell that the metadata parser crashed 00.51.42 # if it does, it takes rockbox with it 00.55.23 # yes, so write a log of all files scanned before enterying the parser 00.56.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.58.01 # saratoga: also, the problem I had wasn't about crashing metadata parser 00.58.16 Join krabadro [0] (~krabador@host220-179-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.58.41 Quit krabadro (Remote host closed the connection) 00.59.31 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host220-179-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.57.24 Join TxBlaze101 [0] (~deathc200@ppp-70-236-32-188.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 02.02.38 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.03.35 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-101-205.unitymediagroup.de) 02.05.28 Quit TxBlaze101 () 02.07.20 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.08.17 Quit japc (Quit: Ex-Chat) 02.11.22 Nick noamsml_ is now known as noamsml (~noamsml@adsl-75-45-238-34.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 02.13.59 # JdGordon|: I've been saying this literally for years 02.14.43 # it's not there for laziness reasons, not technical ones 02.15.04 # tagcache.c is a horrible scary "here be dragons" thing.... noone has the guts to touch it :D 02.15.54 # The default "do a binary search of your collection" is a bit much to ask bug reporters 02.16.28 # "Turn on something in the debug menu and see the last filename in this output log" is somewhat more friendly 02.16.40 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 02.16.41 # noone will disagree with you 02.17.08 # the problem is the devs dont have borken files, and dont particularly care enough (obviously) to touch tagcache.c 02.17.48 # and those saying "binchop your files" dont want to get their hands dirty either... everyone loses 02.18.05 # How hard could it be... 02.18.09 # * rasher opens tagcache.c 02.18.44 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.19.20 # its actually simpler than that even... you could probably put the logging into metadata.c instead 02.20.05 # I guess that would even be more helpful 02.20.33 # (since people can have metadata issues elsewhere) 02.21.17 # the db seems to be more suceptable to broken metadata than playback though 02.21.45 # * JdGordon| wishes he had some sort of idea what is causing his playback problems... 02.22.02 # Isn't that just because the db will (almost) always look at *all* files on the player 02.22.04 # it just stops.. buffers are all full 02.22.13 # could be 02.22.53 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 02.24.16 Join JdGord [0] (~jd@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 02.25.30 Quit liar (Quit: Leaving) 02.33.01 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 02.38.55 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.41.20 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 02.42.05 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.44.48 Quit ReimuHakurei (Remote host closed the connection) 02.45.11 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~ReimuHaku@74.112.212.15) 02.48.54 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@eng359.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 02.49.16 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.51.17 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.56.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.43 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.37.34 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 03.42.06 Quit Keripo1 (Quit: Leaving.) 03.48.58 # JdGordon|: FS#11776 03.50.24 # looking now.. 03.51.12 # logfd == 0 is a valid fd 03.51.48 # and I'd do snprintf() then write instead of two write()'s 03.52.11 # opening it every time isnt very nice either 03.53.17 # JdGordon|: what happens when Rockbox crashes with the file open though? 03.53.41 # also, I'd need to allocate a buffer for a snprintf 03.53.45 # doesn't seem worth it 03.53.53 # its on the stack, no big deal 03.53.58 # since it's a debug tool 03.54.06 # Performance is not an issue 03.54.12 # and yeah, but doing it this way is going to make it very very slow 03.55.30 # Really though, what does happen when Rockbox crashes with the file open? 03.56.40 # I have no idea, it entirely depends on how write() is implemented 03.56.46 # which could end up being up to the target 03.57.10 # I don't think it is heavily buffered but that is really a guess 03.59.37 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-207-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.00.23 # Doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. And again, getting the correct result is far, far more important than getting it quickly 04.00.36 # i agree 04.00.48 # it is just nasty 04.01.43 # I suppose you'd fsync in the real world, but.. 04.01.59 # This gets the job done! 04.02.12 # the fd check is wrong though, the other comments were suggestions 04.02.24 # Yep, I'll change that... later 04.02.29 # sleep! 04.02.59 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.04.21 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng359.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 04.05.47 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224237085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.05.47 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 04.05.47 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 04.09.37 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.24.44 Quit The_Seven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.26.36 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fc4fd.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.28.19 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.29.35 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.29.56 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-80-202.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 04.32.51 Quit froggyman (Remote host closed the connection) 04.51.23 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.51.25 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.51.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.51.28 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.51.28 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.51.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.56.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.57.37 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.09.24 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-254-161.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 05.13.34 Quit mortalscan (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.15.54 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.18.15 Join japc [0] (~japc@bl16-2-136.dsl.telepac.pt) 05.21.50 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 05.28.18 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.34.49 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.37.18 Quit KiwiCam (Remote host closed the connection) 05.39.39 Join jyf1987 [0] (~Axdmin@123.124.185.162) 05.40.10 # hello there, i am interesting how to contribute while i know lua programming, the wiki seems not to point it 05.41.41 # lua is only used for plugins 05.42.39 # then which level of c skills do you require? 05.43.07 # depends what you want to do 05.43.26 # rockbox is written in c, how clever you need to be depends where you want to fiddle 05.43.54 # well i used want to play linux on my cheap mp4 device 05.44.01 # but now i give it up 05.44.13 # so i want to choose rockbox 05.45.42 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7EFF8.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.45.47 # i want to use the little device to make noice by my apps :] 05.46.14 # checkout the source 05.46.38 # in that case i want to use lua(as you can support that) to wrote many code to this target 05.47.13 # theres already one or two plugins written in lua 05.47.15 # take a look at boomshine I think 05.47.25 # ok i will check that 05.48.03 # btw, i came from china, and as you know, there's lots of cheap mp4/pmp device on the market 05.48.10 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.49.20 # i think if they can use rockbox(or linux?) as a common platform, this will be easilly for developing apps 05.49.23 # jyf1987: you have to know what chip the device has, many of those have a basic cpu and a dsp, or one of the many chips without doducmentation 05.49.48 # tmzt_g2root: i do knows the chip but what about the screen? 05.49.54 # and tv-out support 05.50.02 # tv-out support is important 05.50.19 # tv out is probably a dsp function, the point is it's a major project if the soc isn't supported by rockbox 05.50.29 # lcd is usually just timing once you get to that point 05.50.51 # that's a pity 05.52.28 Quit clone4crw (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.52.35 # and i checked the supported device list on the wiki , does onda's vx747/777 now fully usefull? 05.52.56 # saratoga: FS#11776.. you prob are interested 05.53.29 # thanks, just saw that 05.53.40 # we should get it into builds so that people start actually reporting problem files 05.57.53 # it would be more interesting to get the metadata parsers out into a lib (I tihnk GodEater was working on that ages ago, dunno what the story is though) so it is much faster and easier to find bad files 05.58.49 # how does that help find bad files? 05.59.02 # run the parser on your much faster pc 05.59.57 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.00.42 Quit Loto (Quit: Loto) 06.01.44 Quit anewuser () 06.02.04 Quit antil33t () 06.04.13 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 06.32.20 Join mortalscan [0] (~mortalsca@109.169.55.155) 06.32.53 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 06.39.04 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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rockbox boots on hd300 \o/ 13.18.16 # wow, that was fast 13.18.53 # Congratulations wodz 13.21.07 # wodz: when did you start work on this? :) 13.21.18 # week ago 13.22.14 # but the codebase of hd300 is the same as hd200. LCD driver is the same (almost) as for iaudio m5 13.23.35 # how to disable building of all plugins at once? 13.23.57 # there where some setting for this IIRC 13.24.12 # ENABLEDPLUGINS in the makefile 13.24.23 # You can set this in configure I think 13.24.39 Quit Sundiver (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.24.52 Join Sundiver [0] (~Philip@174.124.77.170) 13.24.55 # Ah yes, plugins="no" in the target definition in tools/configure 13.25.09 # thx 13.26.17 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.26.40 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-69-203-144-35.si.res.rr.com) 13.26.50 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.27.09 # hmm lcd driver needs some more tweaks 13.31.35 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@unaffiliated/sideral) 13.32.07 # New commit by 03teru (r28667): FS#8607: MPEG video playlist ... 13.33.44 # r28667 build result: All green 13.34.42 Quit evilnick_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.34.52 # gevaerts: changing plugins="yes" to plugins="no" in configure doesn't help 13.35.11 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.36.32 # and ENABLEDPLUGINS=no IS in Makefile 13.37.03 # hm, I don't know then 13.39.51 # strange - in bootloader I have proper lcd orientation and in rockbox lcd is upside down 13.42.18 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.42.32 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 13.42.32 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 13.43.09 # how is called mp3 decoder file in codec directory? 13.44.32 Quit evilnick (Quit: Leaving) 13.46.34 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.48.41 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 13.50.00 Join flyback [0] (~toothache@c-98-219-129-239.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 13.50.27 # I simply need the fasttrack to the url that points to current supported devices, is that the one on the main page? 13.54.04 Join evilnick-ipad [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.54.35 # the main page lists the current supported devices 13.54.38 # you don't need a link to anywhere :) 13.55.50 # sorry to ask, but I have run into plenty of opensource, and closed source projects where the main lists were not the most current 13.55.53 # thx guys :) 13.56.08 # * flyback downloads to his pda before going shopping 13.56.24 # I love plucker 13.56.36 # OH! 13.56.40 # the other thing I wanted to ask 13.56.52 # all revisions of sansa clip and clip+ are still supported correct? 13.57.14 # probably. 13.57.19 Quit evilnick-ipad (Remote host closed the connection) 13.57.32 # on sale so I might get my mom and myself one 13.58.03 # there are some fuzes that seem not to work any more, but we're not sure why 13.58.10 # it's probably another undocumented hardware revision :) 13.58.19 # if so then the same might apply to the clip at some point, or might not. 13.58.38 # flyback: There's a backgound noise issue with the Sansa ClipV2 that reportedly is less severe with the ClipV1 and the Clip+ 13.59.11 # ok thx :) 14.05.39 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.09.53 Join evilnick-ipad [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.11.25 Quit evilnick-ipad (Remote host closed the connection) 14.11.47 Join evilnick-ipad [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.29.37 # New commit by 03moos (r28668): Code Police: C comment style. 14.30.01 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 14.31.23 # r28668 build result: All green 14.37.28 # TargetSpecificOptimization \o/ 14.48.17 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.51.34 Quit user890104 (*.net *.split) 14.51.34 Quit FOAD (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit riotz (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit Slasheri (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit tmzt_g2root (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit simabeis (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit sideral (*.net *.split) 14.51.35 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 14.51.36 Quit ender` (*.net *.split) 14.51.36 Quit amiconn (*.net *.split) 14.51.36 Quit pixelma (*.net *.split) 14.51.36 Quit linuxguy4 (*.net *.split) 14.51.36 Quit advcomp2019 (*.net *.split) 14.51.36 Quit Galois (*.net *.split) 14.52.49 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@unaffiliated/sideral) 14.52.49 Join TBCOOL [0] (~tb@c-3c3671d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.52.49 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@Venci-Notebook-LAN.ipv6.6bez10.info) 14.52.49 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 14.52.49 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.52.49 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 14.52.49 Join linuxguy4 [0] (~timj@adsl-75-57-188-217.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 14.52.49 Join FOAD [0] (~dok@83.161.135.61) 14.52.49 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-kyrdkoqeozooyeyg) 14.52.49 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 14.52.49 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 14.52.49 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 14.52.49 Join tmzt_g2root [0] (~tmzt@76.211.0.152) 14.52.49 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 14.52.49 Join preglow [0] (thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 14.53.40 Quit evilnick-ipad (Remote host closed the connection) 14.56.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.57.22 # preglow: I don't know if you did follow, but lately there was lot of fun commited, codecs optimisations wise 14.57.52 # thanks to Buschel, saratoga, n1s and others 14.58.12 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.58.17 # and hello btw :) 15.00.27 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.56-ppp.3menatwork.com) 15.01.24 Join drizztbsd [0] (~drizzt@unaffiliated/drizztbsd) 15.01.27 # hi 15.01.36 # is mka (matrioska) container supported? 15.04.31 # drizztbsd: we only have mpegplayer for video, which only plays plain mpeg. we're mostly focused on audio otherwise. 15.04.47 # mka mkv for audio 15.05.17 # ah, ok. who uses that? 15.05.29 # I mean which programs 15.05.38 # I'm not alone => http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=19340.0 15.05.47 # Nov 2008 15.06.08 Quit sideral (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.06.57 # drizztbsd: are you also keeping vorbis files in a mka container? (as the forum poster) 15.07.11 # vorbis or flac 15.07.28 # how come you decided to wrap them in mka? 15.13.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11745 hm, can i apply something like this? (A patch that seems to work on all devices it affects. But i don't know 100% how it works because i am not fit with the display-rendering-internals of rockboy completly) 15.14.28 # hm, better i wait till i have some time to study the code :) 15.15.13 # Stummi: which devices have you tested on? 15.15.52 # can you repeat the bug and fix in the simulator? 15.18.16 # yes. i tested it on all clip*-devices and archos. Other devices which are affected from this bug can't run rockboy 15.18.50 # and i tested on sansa fuzev2, which isnt affected from the bug either the patch 15.19.16 # then feel free to commit 15.22.44 # New commit by 03stummi (r28669): Fixing FS#11745 (Rockboy Screen on Sansa Clip+) 15.24.04 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@unaffiliated/sideral) 15.24.30 # r28669 build result: All green 15.25.34 Quit drizztbsd (Remote host closed the connection) 15.26.24 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.27.16 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 15.32.15 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 15.38.20 # New commit by 03teru (r28670): update mpegplayer manual. 15.40.15 # r28670 build result: All green 15.49.07 Quit feisar- (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.50.00 Join feisar- [0] (jljhook@sienikerho.com) 15.52.00 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 15.52.05 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B49EFC.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.53.59 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 15.54.45 Quit CaptainKewl (Remote host closed the connection) 16.06.46 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.13.18 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@dhcp-128-203.residence.ens-lyon.fr) 16.13.19 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 16.13.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.16.43 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f000::135d) 16.23.08 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 16.23.08 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 16.23.08 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 16.26.09 Quit froggyman (Client Quit) 16.40.44 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 16.42.09 Join TheDeathlyLama [0] (~TheDeathl@c-24-22-4-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 16.45.19 Part Zagor 16.49.26 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@8.135.19.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) 16.49.27 Quit linuxstb (Changing host) 16.49.27 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.50.03 Quit tmzt_g2root (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.50.44 Join tmzt_g2root [0] (~tmzt@76.211.0.152) 16.56.05 # Do you know if bertrik put what he knows about the sb format on the wiki ? 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18.23.55 # hehe is the code: http://pastebin.com/mt1kiF9b 18.24.03 # I think it's clearer this way :) 18.24.38 # You give the "___" section as input to the program for example 18.25.27 # nice 18.25.31 # there are still things I don't understand 18.25.44 # it seems the command are of the form [op;something] 18.25.52 # and the something doesn't make sense to me 18.25.57 # by the way, I simply used '_' for unprintable characters in the chunk name 18.26.19 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@p4FD4D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.26.19 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 18.26.19 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.26.42 # I suggest that if run elftosb2, you call it with -V option, that's how I figured out the thing 18.27.44 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 18.28.28 Quit Horscht (Client Quit) 18.37.27 Nick YPSY is now known as Ypsy (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 18.38.01 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.39.53 # bertrik: perhaps it would be a good thing to put all this informations on the wiki ? 18.40.00 # yes 18.41.27 # gevaerts: So are we going ahead tonight? 18.41.38 # AlexP_: I think so, yes 18.41.58 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 18.41.59 # me too 18.42.03 # As far as I can see the branch is ready, so I'll start some builds 18.42.03 # do you want to start the wiki page ? Just create a blank one for example, so that we have a template 18.42.16 # gevaerts: Yes, I think all is there 18.42.30 # gevaerts: If you are doing normal, I can do manual and things 18.42.35 # ok 18.42.54 # Then I'll do a test to see if 3.7 voice files really still work 18.44.38 # Actually, I'm sure they do. The question is if the web scripts still find them correctly 18.44.41 Join Strife89TX [0] (~cstrife89@207.144.201.128) 18.45.47 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-80-202.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 18.46.02 # gevaerts: r28669 could be backported 18.46.29 Part flyback ("Leaving") 18.47.37 # AlexP_: opinions? 18.47.51 # just looking what it is, one mo 18.49.17 # gevaerts, kugel: If it fixes the clip+ which was broken anyway and doesn't touch anything else (so no chance of them breaking), then I'd probably say so 18.49.49 # Although why the hell anyone wants to play gameboy games on a clip+ is beyond me :) 18.50.10 # It will also apply to archoses 18.50.22 # Do we have a handy archos user around? 18.50.44 # Preferably an archos user who uses rockboy 18.50.57 # Although as the original problem showed up in the sim, then if this causes any issues it might show up there too 18.51.07 # I'd try the sim, but I don't have any roms 18.51.11 Quit Horscht (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.51.17 # hm, the manual is broken 18.51.30 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.52.01 Quit clone4crw (Remote host closed the connection) 18.52.09 # gevaerts: although he said that the probem also was on archos, so I guess it is also now fixed there 18.52.18 # gevaerts: current, or 3.7 manual? 18.52.23 # Stummi: About? 18.52.34 # AlexP_: current, for archoses 18.53.10 # OK, 3.7.1 seems to have built for them 18.54.00 # I'll merge that fix and restart the builds 18.55.11 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r28671): 3.7 branch: backport r28669, fix for FS#11745 (rockboy screen on mono screens with height 64) 18.55.41 # * gevaerts will be back soon 18.56.19 Join clone4crw [0] (~calvin@96-42-80-202.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) 18.56.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.57.04 # I can't help with testing Rockboy on an Archos... the Ondio doesn't have enough buttons so the plugin wasn't ported 18.57.28 Quit riotz (Quit: out!) 19.00.59 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-yhxfaulrcufldwvu) 19.02.52 # New commit by 03kugel (r28672): Change how all the metadata parsers are read from a giant swich/case to function pointers via array index. Also unify the api. 19.02.55 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 19.05.15 # r28672 build result: 84 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed) 19.06.22 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-30-16.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 19.06.40 # bertrik: is SbFormat ok for the topic name ? 19.08.03 # New commit by 03kugel (r28673): Fix red on hwcodec. Forgot to change the macro for it. 19.08.33 # I think so, or maybe SbFileFormat 19.08.41 # -Os did a good job with that giant switch/case apparently 19.10.18 # r28673 build result: All green 19.10.18 # ok, let's go for SbFileFormat. I will just create a blank page and put on link on SansaFuzePlus 19.10.40 # I'll let you fill the structure and I'll put my comment on those load/call/fill instructions 19.15.11 # bertrik: done 19.15.40 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.16.01 # New commit by 03kugel (r28674): Re-add the lseek to the beginning of the file which was accidentally removed. 19.18.41 Quit TheDeathlyLama (Quit: TheDeathlyLama) 19.18.48 # r28674 build result: All green 19.20.31 Join Daeken [0] (~Daeken@cpe-66-108-56-142.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.28.52 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 19.29.04 Quit thegeek (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.32.42 Join TheDeathlyLama [0] (~TheDeathl@c-24-22-4-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 19.33.31 # kugel: could your commit(s) mean that now all MP3 tags work the same on swcodec and hwcodec as I seem to remember that one of the more "obscure" tags didn't work on hwcodec but did on swcodec. It's one I slightly misuse in my WPS, only checking for its existence though and I'm not sure at the moment if it really was the case, always meant to do tests but haven't so far 19.34.13 # I doubt, I didn't change the parsers, just the way they're called 19.35.33 # ok, I still have to do the tests then 19.35.44 # what tags are you talking about? 19.35.49 # is there an FS# about it? 19.36.40 # the grouping tag, and if no-one else added a task then no. I wanted to be sure before reporting 19.37.04 Nick AlexP_ is now known as AlexP (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 19.38.30 Join mrkiko [0] (~mrkiko@host53-255-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.39.22 Part mrkiko 19.41.07 # quick question is the volume cap that comes with EU model of the ipod in the apple firmware , so when rockbox is ready for the classic it wont have it anymore 19.41.22 # or shall i buy it remove the cap and then stick rockbox on it 19.41.26 # correct 19.41.42 # Rockbox has no artificial limit 19.41.58 # But I'm not aware of anyone working on Rockbox for the Classic 19.42.01 # so its only the hardware limit on the volume 19.42.07 # yes 19.42.18 # o ok good 19.42.21 # AlexP: TheSeven is working on it 19.42.27 # =D 19.42.29 # gevaerts: is he now 19.42.32 # cool 19.42.39 # \o/ 19.42.55 Quit riotz (Changing host) 19.42.55 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@unaffiliated/riotz) 19.42.55 Quit riotz (Changing host) 19.42.55 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-yhxfaulrcufldwvu) 19.43.06 # Well, maybe not at this very minute 19.43.08 # im getting my ipod monday 19.43.22 # with rockbox engraved on the back 19.43.25 # in gold 19.43.40 # Dreamxtreme: you do know that someone working on it is not a guarantee of the port ever actually being usable, right? 19.43.54 # yes 19.44.32 # AlexP: builds uploaded 19.44.34 # but considering the other ipods i reckon the chance of it NEVER being usable areslim 19.44.38 # (to my webspace) 19.44.48 # Dreamxtreme: That doesn't mean much 19.44.59 # Nominay the same model can have different hardware 19.45.04 # *Nominally 19.45.17 # yea so i see 19.45.29 # I don't know how similar the later ipods are, but working on one thing is no guarantee for another 19.45.36 # gevaerts: manuals building now 19.45.36 # which is why im offering to help with development on it 19.45.41 # with my ipod 19.45.45 # get stuck in then 19.45.56 # I imagine he needs help disassembling the OF 19.46.03 # im not sticking anything on it till rockbox is done 19.46.21 # Then you aren't helping development... 19.46.40 # yes i am 19.46.41 # lol 19.46.45 # how? 19.47.04 # i just also mean that i wont be putting anything on it with the apple firmware on it 19.47.20 # i will wait quite happily 19.47.25 # How does that help development? 19.47.36 # and also do bug reports 19.47.44 # and anything i can to help 19.47.50 # without knowing C++ lol 19.47.59 # Rockbox isn't written in C++ 19.48.08 # o 19.48.14 # what then 19.48.17 # C and bits of assembly 19.49.19 # well 19.49.25 # i still dont know it 19.49.35 Join evilnick-ipad [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.49.36 # You won't be much help then :) 19.49.39 # but anthing i can do i will dp 19.49.45 # do 19.49.54 # cool :) 19.54.02 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.54.19 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 19.54.44 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 19.55.38 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 19.56.47 Join stoffel_ [0] (~quassel@p57B4B195.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.57.09 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.58.30 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.58.53 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 20.00.09 # gevaerts: all manuals which don't have a \ButtonSelect will be broken, now I just need to find out if the "Running Time" screen uses some core button action and if so which... 20.00.32 # manuals of targets that don't have that option 20.02.51 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 20.03.26 # in case someone finds that quicker in the code... help would be appreciated 20.08.22 # is resetting the running times ACTION_STD_OK ? 20.08.30 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.08.40 # +using 20.10.38 # IIUC it looks like it does... I'm replacing it now in the manual, if someone finds something else 20.11.08 Quit riotz (Quit: out!) 20.11.16 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@54196DB8.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 20.12.53 # gevaerts: just uploading manuals now 20.14.19 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.16.32 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.17.47 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5BD86.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.18.53 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@54196DB8.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 20.19.00 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-dmgfuaolbgsflczx) 20.19.52 # meh, there's one part in the new Running Time section that mentions charging which should be excluded for targetst that don't charge in Rockbox :\ and I don't quite understand the "press any button followed by Select (or the standard OK action)" - you just have to "select" the list item, Up/Down moves you in the list, Left is exit 20.20.36 # AlexP: do you have an idea how to improve the description, I'm referring to http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/manual/main_menu/main.tex?r1=28616;r2=28617;pathrev=28617 20.21.18 # I thought I already fixed the "resetted" in that 20.21.38 # it's not about the resetted 20.21.50 # I know, but I also changed the language a bit 20.21.52 # the description is wrong 20.22.04 # I'm sure I committed that 20.22.16 # maybe I should commit the \ButtonSelect fix though 20.22.19 # first 20.22.30 # also, fix resetted, it isn't a word :) 20.22.31 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.22.53 # it already is fixed 20.22.59 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 20.23.02 # ah, good 20.23.08 # So that is a link to an old version? 20.23.16 # but you can't press "any button" 20.23.25 # ah right, to the commit that added it 20.23.35 # yes, to show the full paragraph 20.23.49 # sorry, understand now :) 20.23.58 # gevaerts: manuals uploaded, what is next? 20.24.28 # AlexP: I'm now uploading the source 20.24.35 # Then I'll tag I guess? 20.24.38 # pixelma: I guess it probably needs a table for the button 20.24.39 # s 20.24.43 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 20.24.56 # gevaerts: Yep - do voice need copying/renaming on the server? 20.25.19 # AlexP: I don't know. If I understand the files correctly, I suspect not 20.25.24 Quit Strife89TX (Quit: See y'all later!) 20.25.47 # As soon as all files are in place, I'll commit an update to tools/builds.pm in trunk to actually tell things about the release 20.26.25 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.26.36 # I don't think so, the running time screen is just a simple list which you can move through just as any list. The only "tricky" thing is that you have to know which button to press for the reset which happens after you sort of "entered the submenu". It is simply the ok button just as in any other yesno screen if I understand correctly 20.27.24 # gevaerts: yep, sounds good 20.27.26 # * pixelma is going to commit a fix for the breakage first, shall the rest be decided later 20.27.54 # gevaerts: So I guess we need Zagor now (who isn't here) :) 20.28.17 # source uploaded 20.28.21 Quit stoffel_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.28.35 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r28675): Tag 3.7.1 release 20.29.53 # New commit by 03pixelma (r28676): Fix all manuals that were broken in r28617 (targets that do not have \ButtonSelect) by using the respective \ActionStdOk macro which also matches the ... 20.31.11 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.31.14 # Buschel: be careful a bit - unfortunately you can't easily see broken manuals ;) 20.31.27 # AlexP: yes, but he may appear suddenly :) 20.31.49 # r28676 build result: All green 20.31.52 Quit mortalscan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.34.58 # it's "nice" now that the non-stop mode is working for the PDF manuals, we have broken PDFs without ToC etc. instead the last working ones as we had before. Is it easy to tell that I don't like non-stop mode? :\ 20.35.33 # pixelma: oops, thanks for fixing this 20.35.36 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 20.36.06 # no problem, just letting you know :) 20.36.11 # Zagor: ah, hello :) 20.37.23 # Zagor 3.7.1 manuals are at ftp.aeparker.com, user=rockbox@aeparker.com, pass=rockbox 20.37.43 # Zagor: source and builds at http://rockbox.hostname.be/3.7.1/ 20.38.16 # We're hoping we won't need new voices 20.38.46 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 20.39.36 Join AlexP_mob [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 20.42.02 # downloading 20.43.00 # cool 20.45.35 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.46.18 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 20.46.56 Quit riotz (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.53.30 # New commit by 03zagor (r28677): Use $publicrelease from builds.pm instead of hardcoded release number. 20.55.24 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host65-168-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.55.28 # AlexP_mob: do you have an announcement mail handy? 20.56.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.57.02 # I'll commit a new builds.pm then? 20.57.18 # Zagor: if everything is there, sure 20.57.41 # hmm, what was it rbutil looks at again? 20.58.06 # gevaerts: Yep, one mo 20.59.36 # New commit by 03zagor (r28678): Latest release is 3.7.1 20.59.58 # hm 21.01.09 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA3818.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.01.27 # gevaerts: yep, email ready 21.01.37 # I'll try a quick install using rbutil 21.01.56 # r28678 build result: All green 21.02.55 # ahh, I forgot the mirror delay 21.03.03 # oh well, it will fix itself soon 21.03.12 # oh, right. That might be why this doesn't work :) 21.06.13 # Zagor: /daily/build-info 21.06.27 # gevaerts: Let me know when you want me to send stuf 21.06.38 # AlexP: as soon as it works :) 21.06.42 # :) 21.07.30 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-wxwttpuniaifeowa) 21.09.04 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g227204023.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.12.24 # Zagor: rbutil gets version info from http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info 21.13.02 # yup, I just fixed it. it's updated automatically by the daily build script, but there's no release update mechanism for it... 21.13.07 # ah, ok 21.13.41 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-69-203-144-35.si.res.rr.com) 21.14.03 # so now we're just waiting for the mirrors 21.14.36 # I'm trying rbutil now (using rockbox.haxx.se via /etc/hosts) 21.14.57 # gah 21.15.25 # haxx.rockbox.org 21.15.48 # Zagor: could you copy the voice files from 3.7 and rename them to *3.7.1*? 21.16.07 # do we have to? there's a separate voicerelease variable which should take care of that 21.16.10 # rbutil apparently doesn't magically use this voice version from builds.pm 21.16.27 # oh right :( 21.16.54 Quit evilnick-ipad (Quit: I am quitted, or perhaps quilted) 21.17.24 Join evilnick-ipad [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.17.58 # done 21.19.42 # weird... 21.20.04 # It seems to be looking for /release/3.7.1/sansafuzev2-3.7.1-english.zip 21.20.10 # * gevaerts doesn't understand 21.20.36 # Oh, are all the voice files also there in a zip file? 21.20.48 # no, they are called .voice 21.21.16 # Yes, that's what I thought, but there are things like http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.7/sansafuzev2-3.7-english.zip 21.21.27 # And those apparently are what rbutil uses 21.21.46 # indeed, that is what rbutil.ini says. 21.22.55 # and that's actually what the webpage script links to as well. the .voice files seem never to be used. 21.23.13 # I love how we need to do research for every release :) 21.23.20 # Yes, it's always fun! 21.23.27 # we are experts :) 21.23.32 # you might think someone would've documented this process! 21.23.36 # But if we do monthly stable updates, we'll probably learn! 21.23.55 # I was thinking that this one had gone remarkably smoothly :) 21.24.07 Join eWill [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-99-135-15-238.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 21.24.08 # krazykit: but rockbox wouldn't exist without reverse engineering! We need to maintain those skills! 21.24.21 # Is ReplayGain power-expensive? (battery time) 21.24.39 # i'm pretty sure it's a bad sign when you need to reverse-engineer yourself! 21.25.18 Quit AlexP_mob (Quit: Cheers) 21.26.23 # eWill: I seem to vaguely remember it's not 21.26.56 Quit evilnick-ipad (Quit: I am quitted, or perhaps quilted) 21.27.41 Quit riotz (Changing host) 21.27.41 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@unaffiliated/riotz) 21.27.41 Quit riotz (Changing host) 21.27.41 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-wxwttpuniaifeowa) 21.28.21 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.56-ppp.3menatwork.com) 21.28.36 # we do actually have wiki/ReleaseChecklist 21.28.51 # I even read it 21.29.23 Join lixxus99 [0] (~lixxus@78-86-253-21.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 21.29.43 Join AlexP_mob [0] (~ap@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.29.50 Part lixxus99 21.30.20 # OK, installing the voice file now works, and the voice IDs still match 21.30.36 # cool 21.30.43 # So as I think we're done, apart from the release email and mirror sync 21.30.46 # So are we ready to rumble? 21.30.55 # email sent 21.32.35 # New commit by 03zagor (r28679): Added 3.7.1 to front page 21.34.32 # Right, good job chaps 21.35.56 # AlexP: change topic? 21.36.19 # Ah, good point 21.36.43 Topic "Rockbox 3.7.1 released! | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | An upgrade caused issues with the wiki. We are on the case" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 21.37.46 # issues with the wiki? 21.38.41 # search bar is gone, some people had trouble registering new accounts 21.39.14 # search bar is back since a couple of days 21.42.03 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~captainke@ool-45738e2c.dyn.optonline.net) 21.45.33 Quit JesusFreak316 (Read error: No route to host) 21.45.58 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-30-16.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 21.46.45 # ah ok 21.47.46 # Some of the links in "What's new" don't match with the FS entries 21.48.42 # am i remembering correctly that arm11 has a 1 cycle stall if you continually multiply-accumulate into the same register? 21.48.44 # oh, did I cock them up? 21.48.46 # one mo 21.49.32 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 21.49.38 # The radio region fix from FS#11745 should be FS#11754 21.50.22 # The russian translation has the right number FS#11720 but links to FS#11710 21.51.13 # bertrik: fixed, thanks 21.52.39 Quit AlexP_mob (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.53.22 # what are the boost and unboost clocks on the nano2g? 21.53.35 # boost=192, unboost=48 21.53.44 # * Buschel is playing around with it as well ;) 21.53.51 # MHz, of course 21.56.03 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.56.49 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5BD86.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.56.59 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.57.27 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 22.01.17 # can anyone hazard a guess on the difference in current-draw when the LCD is on/off? (specifically the Fuze v2, but any player if you know). 22.02.03 # TheSeven: Do you know what to change to correct the timers when changeing the S5L870x to 32 MHz clock for unboosted state? 22.02.59 # eWill: probably about 100mW, but it depends on brightness 22.03.45 # 100% vs 50%? 22.04.32 # brightness 22.04.38 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 22.06.25 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~captainke@ool-45738e2c.dyn.optonline.net) 22.06.43 # does anyone know about the TCC processors? it'd be nice to get them added to TargetSpecificOptimization 22.06.53 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA3818.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.08.02 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~ReimuHaku@74.112.212.15) 22.08.23 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.13.31 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 22.13.51 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.56-ppp.3menatwork.com) 22.18.18 Part Zagor 22.23.17 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CC34.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.33.42 # Buschel: #define TIMER_FREQ 47923200L in /firmware/export/s5l8700.h 22.34.27 # hm, and apparently a hardwired prescaler in kernel-s5l8700.c 22.34.29 # TBPRE = 300 - 1; /* prescaler */ 22.35.19 # Buschel: what's the exact Hz value of PCLK? 22.35.43 # are you trying to go for a 1:4 PCLK:HCLK divider? 22.36.43 # PCLK would be 191692800/6 22.36.52 # so, like 192/64/32 22.37.40 # boost will be less efficient, but the unboosted state would consume less power. ~1-2 mA less 22.37.57 # this clock change is for my use case only, not for svn 22.39.22 # so, it should be enough to set TIMER_FREQ to (191692800L/6) ? 22.39.42 Quit TheDeathlyLama (Quit: TheDeathlyLama) 22.39.43 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.39.51 # I notice the database can be off or on. Does Sansa have a good reason to not allow it turned off in the OF? 22.40.35 # eWill: why ask us? 22.40.45 # Rockbox flaw? 22.41.01 # maybe we shouldn't allow it turned off? 22.41.08 # huh? 22.41.31 # Buschel: have you tried 192/96/24? 22.41.42 # The fact that the sansa OF has an always on database means that rockbox has a flaw? 22.42.07 # And why do you want to force people to use the rockbox database? 22.42.32 # gevaerts: I think he assumes that sandisk might know what they're doing :) 22.42.34 # I don't, I just figured they must have a good reason to now allow it off. 22.42.46 # And you asked us what those reasons are 22.43.14 # Yes -- because if they had a good reason, perhaps we should consider it. 22.43.32 # their reason was probably that they didn't manage to make their firmware work without it :) 22.43.58 Join TheDeathlyLama [0] (~TheDeathl@c-24-22-4-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 22.44.10 # TheSeven: no. but youre right, this keeps the RAM speed. 22.44.18 # figure out what that reason is, then come back here 22.44.26 # A database makes MTP easier, but we don't do MTP 22.44.44 # And if we do, it will be optional 22.44.45 # one might even try 200/100/25 22.45.03 # what are those 3 numbers? 22.45.07 # or even 200/100/33, if that works 22.45.14 # FCLK_CPU/HCLK/PCLK 22.45.26 # whats HCLK? 22.45.31 # AHB clock 22.46.03 # AHB is the memory clock? 22.46.26 # i don't know that for sure, but it is probably derived from it 22.46.28 # i'm thinking of sandisk were we just set the FCLK and PCLK (which also controls the memory) 22.48.41 # Buschel: do you think we can live with a 25MHz APB clock? 22.48.50 Nick krazykit is now known as megaaerodyne (~kkit@70.236.74.145) 22.49.08 # in terms of what? gui usability? 22.49.15 # or stability? 22.49.27 Quit TheDeathlyLama (Quit: TheDeathlyLama) 22.49.28 # i wonder if there are any bottlenecks on the APB 22.50.01 # in terms of stability, i know that the USB controller doesn't like a low HCLK, but it shouldn't care about PCLK 22.50.56 # it will affect several other clocks... i2c, lcd, ... 22.51.07 # we can probably fix this by changing some dividers 22.51.13 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.51.49 # so 200/100/25, 100/100/25, 50/50/25, 25/25/25 would be possible boosting stages 22.53.38 Quit eWill (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) 22.54.04 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87.206.240.131) 22.54.14 # btw, the tick timer prescaler value for 32MHz would be 200 - 1 22.55.16 # I sorted out problems with lcd driver for HD300 :-) 22.55.46 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-237-42.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 22.56.15 # we should buy you an ipod nano4G 22.56.22 # give you something a little harder to work on 22.56.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.58.14 # saratoga: to whom are you talking? 23.06.59 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.08.25 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.56-ppp.3menatwork.com) 23.09.37 # TheSeven: Can we do 192/96/24 ? to me it seems that PCLK can either be HCLK or HLCK/2, but not HCKL/4 23.09.48 # it can be 23.09.53 # probably also HCLK/8 23.10.28 # try setting CLKCON2 to 0x480 instead of 0x280 in crt0.S 23.12.22 # ? this is at least not documented in the (preliminary) spec of the S5L8700x 23.12.45 # there are tons of things that aren't documented there or at least aren't matching exactly 23.13.02 # for example the /2 divider should be bit 8, but it apparently is bit 9 23.13.08 # and bit 10 seems to enable a /4 divider 23.13.22 Quit riotz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.13.27 # they can possibly be cascaded by setting it to 0x680, but that doesn't make much sense 23.14.30 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-iermbequvspbkwmt) 23.14.37 # TheSeven: wodz 23.15.51 # saratoga: I have rockchip based player to work on after HD300 23.16.12 # * TheSeven has several generations of ipods to work on if anyone should ever run out of work 23.16.14 Quit ender` (Quit: What if there were no hypothetical questions?) 23.16.26 Join grawity [0] (grawity@snow.nullroute.eu.org) 23.17.44 # ok button driver work quite good on HD300 - I think I'll start preparing to commit this 23.18.15 # Is there a page with instructions on building rockbox for ipodnano2g? 23.19.10 Join amee2k [0] (~thomas@ve504.cugnet.net) 23.19.19 # evening everyone 23.20.04 # i just successfully installed rockbox on a first gen ipod mini (mn: A1051) using the automated complete install 23.20.30 # oh, and version is 3.7 23.20.41 # i think 23.21.08 # and while browsing around started the FFT plugin, but now i don't seem to be able to get out again, short of a hard reset 23.21.23 # grawity: The same as for any other target, see the For Developers pages in the wiki for how to set up a build environment 23.21.25 # the manual doesn't seem to list the plugin either... so any ideas how to quit it? 23.21.36 # try toggling hold maybe 23.21.59 # * grawity tries to find said pages 23.22.16 # amee2k: I think it's menu+select 23.22.17 # nope. that turns the backlight off and locks the keys 23.22.43 # with select == middle button, holding for 5 seconds is the reset 23.23.03 # don't hold it 23.23.15 # ooh! that did it 23.23.19 # thanks gevaerts :) 23.23.27 # * gevaerts looked at the source for this :) 23.23.35 # yeah 23.23.40 # That's probably cheating though 23.23.43 # maybe long something would make more sense 23.24.07 # There are quite a lot of plugins on ipod that do menu+select I think 23.24.15 # or a fft.tex 23.24.23 # well, i was trying to avoid a reset, so i didn't try that key combination at all 23.24.33 # * pixelma looks around for Mr. Someone 23.24.50 # The basic problem is that ipods don't really have many buttons 23.25.24 # hehe true too 23.25.30 # i got this one for free lol 23.25.32 # pixelma: It doesn't seem to be in the manual for the mini 23.25.44 # there's none at all 23.25.48 # Hmm. 23.25.58 # yes, it isn't there for anything 23.26.17 # should I try installing arm-elf-eabi-gcc, or don't bother and configure --no-eabi? 23.26.26 # you need eabi 23.26.38 # As that is what arm targets use these days 23.26.53 # TheSeven: using 0x480 in crt0.s does the trick -> PCLK=HCLK/4 23.27.00 # grawity: Are you on linux? 23.27.06 # AlexP: yes, Arch Linux 23.27.07 # Just run tools/rockboxdev.sh 23.27.27 # TheSeven: PCLK is 24 MHz now, TBPRE = 150 - 1 23.27.33 # it does it all for you, gets the right versions, patches where necessary etc. 23.28.03 # TheSeven: I can see artifacts in the LCD screen after lcd sleep now. 23.28.06 # hm... the fireworks plugin doesn't look too interresting. the LCD is waaaaay too slow to the degree where you barely see anything 23.28.57 # Buschel: what kind of artifacts? 23.29.46 # * grawity hates r28190. 23.30.23 # ooh. the "snow" plugin crashes. says "data abort at 01F8042C (0)" 23.31.15 # amee2k: did you do anything special? 23.31.23 # hmm, seems like the screen content is somehow shifted to the left or right. or as if the width is not correct 23.31.30 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA3818.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.31.47 # hmmm i just tried to reproduce it and now it works 23.31.50 # TheSeven: but this is not happening always and it is solved with the next screen update 23.31.52 # gevaerts: not that i'm aware of 23.32.08 # same track playing, then selected the snow demo again... works now 23.32.14 # hm, no. The only thing you *can* do is quit 23.33.07 # TheSeven: 24 MHz vs. 48 MHZ saves about 2 mA here 23.33.18 # but probably not with MP3 23.33.34 # regarding the LCD problem: sounds as if the range setup fails for some reason 23.33.37 # *definately* not with mp3 :) 23.33.50 # we might need to tweak some LCD config values 23.34.07 # hmmm sounds like a freak event. can't reproduce it :/ 23.34.49 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.36.00 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.25.205) 23.36.40 # 01F8042C is definitely the plugin that crashed, not the playback system 23.37.24 # just tried to get the doom thing to run. once froze with "Illegal instruction" then it worked but froze later when trying to start the game at "endianness..." 23.37.48 # could it be that not too many people are using the ipod mini port? ;) 23.37.53 # omg 23.37.56 # I doubt that 23.38.00 # i'm watching initial D on it now 23.38.16 # but i kinda only see the top left corner of the video 23.38.27 # could it be that the mpeg player doesn't scale the picture? 23.38.38 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.38.40 # right. 23.38.48 # Not enough CPU for that 23.39.17 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 23.39.25 # hm. and on one of the files its crashing too 23.39.34 # just turns off the backlight and sits there doing nothing 23.39.44 # frozen 23.40.22 # not yet perfect, but i still like it :) 23.40.33 # That many problems isn't usual 23.40.39 # better than the awkward stock firmware any day 23.40.58 # well, you say "Not yet" but the ipod ports are generally considered done 23.41.11 # hmmm okay 23.41.20 # could it be some hardware problem? 23.41.21 # it's more likely that some of these problems are something specific to your setup 23.41.22 # Does that ipod work fine in the original firmware? 23.41.32 # either hardware, or filesystem, or settings.. 23.41.51 # dunno... i tried for an afternoon but couldn't get the stock formware to do anything 23.41.53 # doom is not maintained particularly, though, so it not working is not a surprise 23.42.02 # it wouldn't even play anything i put on it 23.42.07 # I don't really see the snow plugin crashing being caused by settings 23.42.52 # then i decided if i want to keep it it needs different firmware and quickly ended up on the rockbox site 23.43.24 # "wouldn't play" as in? 23.43.35 # if it doesn't play stuff after putting music on using apple's methods/instructions then there's something wrong with it, indeed 23.43.42 # i couldn't find where to select what to play >_> 23.43.55 # but if you jst copied the files on there, that doesn't work 23.44.00 # hu? 23.44.02 # you hae to use itunes, with the original firmware 23.44.08 # do you need to... oh. 23.44.14 # you don't with rockbox. 23.44.17 # i just tried putting it in various folders 23.44.22 # Right, that won't work anyway 23.44.26 # lol 23.44.33 # So you don't know if it works in the original firmware, then 23.44.49 # well, navigating the menus did work 23.44.56 # and rebooting it a dozen times 23.44.59 # lol 23.45.30 # its a bit retarded that it needs a special driver so it picks up the files you copy to it 23.45.51 # iTunes is a program, not a driver 23.45.57 # TheSeven: 24MHz patch for S5L870x -> http://pastebin.de/12184 23.45.57 # but yeah, welcome to Apple world 23.46.00 # I'd say try checking the filesystem and see if that makes it more stable 23.46.01 # not having to do that is one reason why people use rockbox :) 23.46.06 # will now compile a 200/100/50 version 23.46.15 # Or if that finds problems in the first place of course 23.46.15 # i mkfs'd over the FAT32 partition, downloaded the dockbox installer and used the automated "complete install" option 23.46.19 # then reset it 23.46.20 # At least it's not as bad as Micros~1 23.46.22 # ah, ok 23.46.32 # You unmounted it properly I assume? 23.46.42 # yeah 23.47.24 # since the manual mentioned something about needing the exact partition table for my model when converting from hfs, and there being a dummy partition, i didn't touch the partition table 23.47.56 # because the firm-firm-ware that loads the firmware then probably depends on something in the MBR being just right 23.48.47 # iirc, half of the bootloader is stored in the "dummy partition" 23.49.00 # Then I suspect that either there's something wrong with our ipod mini support that nobody else has reported (which I would find a bit surprising, but you never know), or your mini has some hardware issues 23.49.46 # hm... i got it used, so hardware issue is a possibility 23.50.15 # if ipod support is supposed to be stable for a while now 23.50.59 # from what i read it just uses a CF form factor micro-drive. i could take that out and test it for bad sectors 23.51.19 # It does, yes 23.51.20 # you don't need to take it out to do that 23.51.27 # just boot emergency disk mode 23.51.44 # hm, don't ipods have some sort of diagnostics mode? 23.52.13 # dunno. i got my first one two days ago :) 23.52.19 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.53.32 # Try holding Prev+Select while booting the iPod. 23.53.41 # yes, that's it. 23.54.37 # ooh, just found that on http://www.methodshop.com/gadgets/ipodsupport/diagnosticmode/index.shtml 23.55.24 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.56-ppp.3menatwork.com)