--- Log for 30.11.110 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.17 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.00.50 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.05.13 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 00.06.17 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 00.06.32 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 00.08.25 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 00.08.42 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-77-160.unitymediagroup.de) 00.09.54 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng135.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 00.12.53 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048199084.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.12.54 Join JesusFreak316_ [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-30-16.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 00.15.22 Quit JesusFreak316_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.16.02 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.18.01 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.23.59 Nick logiclost is now known as lostlogic (~lostlogic@erudite.lostlogicx.com) 00.24.01 Quit lostlogic (Changing host) 00.24.01 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 00.26.36 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.31.42 Quit ack` (Remote host closed the connection) 00.31.53 # * TheSeven gets the IDENTIFY data repeated over and over when he tries to read a sector using PIO, and when using DMA he gets no reaction at all 00.33.48 # New commit by 03wodz (r28711): RTC s35380a - fix initialization. 00.35.42 # r28711 build result: All green 00.36.54 Join ack [0] (~ack@mingbai.org) 00.37.51 Join mt [0] (~mt@41.233.146.250) 00.38.05 Quit GeekShad0w (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.39.16 Quit ender` (Quit: As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.) 00.40.05 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.40.44 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: off I go) 00.41.44 Nick ack is now known as ack` (~ack@mingbai.org) 00.43.15 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.50.03 # gevaerts: I'll be happy to answer any S5L8700-related questions that might arise :) 00.51.17 # Yay :) 00.51.55 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 00.54.45 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.55.48 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.58.03 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 00.58.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.00.33 # Does rock box have any speech recognition software like sphinx mobile 01.02.00 # no 01.04.13 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.05.00 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 01.05.42 # Is the mic activiated in rockbox fuze v2? 01.05.49 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.07.21 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 01.07.57 # Is the mic activated in rockbox fuze v2? 01.08.39 # http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/2010/08/pocketsphinx-is-a-perfect-fit-for-mobile/ 01.09.00 # it's posix though, you would half to port it somehow 01.09.02 Quit Strife89TX (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.09.36 # nice 01.09.42 # that would be worthy 01.31.57 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-59.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 01.32.18 Part toffe82 01.41.13 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.42.03 Quit Dreamxtreme (Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad) 01.45.24 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01.49.44 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.239.250) 01.53.44 Join Bushmills [0] (~Bushmills@scarydevilmonastery.net) 01.55.21 Quit Dreamxtreme (Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.) 01.55.41 Join madalu [0] (~user@unaffiliated/madalu) 01.55.47 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.239.250) 02.09.12 Quit Judas_PhD (Remote host closed the connection) 02.16.24 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.18.01 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host150-21-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.26.58 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 02.45.44 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 02.47.08 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.48.49 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 02.54.08 Join xero [0] (~kvirc@c-98-220-224-43.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.54.11 Nick xero is now known as Guest98934 (~kvirc@c-98-220-224-43.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.54.32 # hey, do any of you know how to set the sansa clip+ to MTP with rockbox 02.57.21 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.58.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.58.25 # you cant 02.58.37 # rockbox usb doesnt do mtp 02.58.52 # oh 02.58.54 # hmm 02.58.57 # thanks 02.59.08 # you can use mtp with the sansa firmware thoguh 02.59.20 # what does that mean 02.59.43 # oh 02.59.46 # hold left when you turn on the clip and you can use mtp 02.59.52 # ah 02.59.54 # cool 03.00.55 # thanks 03.02.02 # ha the arm arch manual says that smmul is supported on arm5E, while the arm5E manual says its not 03.02.19 # even arm can't figure out their stupid isa versions 03.02.27 # :) 03.02.37 # even when i set it to MTP in the original firmware, it still goes to MSC 03.02.40 # sorry 03.04.07 # Guest98934, rockbox usb does not use the original firmware usb mode 03.04.42 # has anyone profiled mpegplayer on arm9? 03.04.43 # right, but i followed jdgordon's advice and it loaded the original firmware 03.05.08 # if you can't get the OF to work, go ask sandisk 03.05.18 # ok 03.08.21 # i think i found a workaround 03.08.23 # thanks all! 03.08.34 # using mr. gordon's suggestion 03.08.36 # :-) 03.10.03 # mpegplayer could be faster on the FuzeV2 and any other arm9E players with some pretty simple tweaks to the armv6 idct 03.10.20 # are there any arm9e devices were cpu is actually an issue when decoding video? 03.12.13 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 03.15.22 Quit Guest98934 (Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3900, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-07-07 00:42:53 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/) 03.18.29 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 03.20.44 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.27.49 Join UnclePervyJesus [0] (~ubernoob@2001:c08:3700:ffff::16:2f8a) 03.59.29 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.06.08 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 04.06.21 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.08.01 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@g224236077.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.08.01 Quit bluebroth3r (Changing host) 04.08.01 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 04.08.01 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 04.14.03 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.18.25 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.22.19 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.22.55 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f4f72.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.23.28 Quit Llorean (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.23.44 Quit Barahir (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.30.12 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.32.45 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.35.46 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-067-210-246.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.40.30 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 04.43.23 Quit designate72 (Quit: Leaving) 04.46.56 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.46.59 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.47.01 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.48.30 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.48.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.48.51 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.58.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.24.46 Quit simonrvn (Remote host closed the connection) 05.31.33 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 06.12.23 Quit madalu (Remote host closed the connection) 06.20.27 Join xxcv [0] (~null@c211-30-174-99.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 06.21.41 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 06.25.11 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-231-36.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 06.26.19 Quit xavieran (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.26.26 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.26.30 Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 06.39.08 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 06.45.29 Join annie [0] (~a9e96c3c@giant.haxx.se) 06.45.39 # hello? 06.45.52 # can someone help me installing rockbox on my ipod? 06.46.45 # it says "error could not retrieve device name" 06.48.02 Quit annie (Client Quit) 06.48.19 Join asd40195 [0] (~a9e96c3c@giant.haxx.se) 06.50.15 # hello, can someone help me with installing rockbox on my ipod? 06.50.47 # I have the 4th generation ipod click wheel" 06.51.17 # #help 06.54.06 # I restored my ipod on my macbook pro and when selecting complete installation, it tells me it couldn't retrieve the ipods name? 06.54.10 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 06.54.44 Join Sundiver [0] (~Philip@174.124.77.170) 06.54.59 # "error could not retrieve devices name" 06.58.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.58.18 # can anyone help me? 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What should I do? 11.30.43 # they're new fonts you made? 11.30.51 # how big are we talking here? :) 11.31.25 # Yes, of course. 11.31.36 # Ehh, let me have a look. 11.32.23 # Which definition of "made" are you using here? 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I just found out about Rockbox but before going any further with trying to install it on my fuze, I wanted to know if it has the following function: 19.26.04 # I listen to lectures in mp3, and I want to be able to use the scroll wheel to skip ahead/reverse in the lectures, is this possible? Also, does it allow to speed up lectures by 1.5x or 2x? Thanks. 19.26.55 # Rockbox can of course rewind and fastforward, for the buttons see the manual - I think it is left and right not the scrollwheel 19.27.06 # If you want to change the buttons you'll have to compile 19.27.16 # you cannot scroll position within a track 19.27.17 # And yes, Rockbox has a time stretch feature, see the manual 19.27.55 Quit japc (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.28.00 # and you could set a skip length to just skip ahead or reverse in smaller steps in the files 19.28.44 # cool thanks, I'll look into it 19.29.46 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.29.58 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 19.34.53 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.37.00 # pamaury, do the extracted blocks by sbinfo also contain the boot commands? 19.37.57 # currently sbinfo only print them but don't actually do something with them, it only extracts the sections just like in your initial implementation 19.38.18 # what would be nice would be to produce an elf file out of it 19.38.50 # with load -> elf section, fill -> bss section, call -> ? 19.39.31 Quit UnclePervyJesus (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.40.18 # or perhaps even several elf files: one for each [load; load; load; call/jump] block 19.40.29 # (and fill in between) 19.46.42 # do you have any other idea ? 19.48.53 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 19.51.01 # hm, are there drives that don't like a single sector being read using a READ MULTIPLE command? 19.51.23 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.54.08 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 19.54.59 Join funkyjive [0] (~3faadc86@giant.haxx.se) 19.55.05 # hey guys 19.57.14 # advice if you have any: I have a sansa e260 and I have been running rockbox for about a year I would guess. Love rockbox and want to continue with it. Last week, I updated rockbox to 2.7 and installed the VI theme (love it). A day or two later, I dropped my device and it hit a hard floor. Picked it up and it was still running ... ok no problem. Finished listening. Then when I powered it off, Rockbox did a PANIC ... (I think it complained about 19.57.29 # after flipping it on, it was not able to boot. 19.57.38 # I kept trying. Eventually it booted. 19.57.45 # So I went on with life. 19.58.41 # Yesterday, I shut it off and then when I tried turning it back on, it just goes into this frozen mode. The ring on the front is lit up, but didn't boot. I ultimately unscrewed the back and took off the battery and put it back on. I was able to get it to boot after that ... 19.58.57 # I updated to 2.7.1 wondering if the upgrade had anything to do with it. 19.59.00 # funkyjive: have a look at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22154.msg152893#msg152893 19.59.14 # A loose flash chip is not uncommon on e200 19.59.46 # ahh. ok. let me digest the contents of that. 20.00.22 # Basically open the player (using screws! No breaking things open and hoping you can get them back together here!), look for a black area, push 20.00.31 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@p4FD4FADF.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.00.32 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 20.00.32 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.00.50 # got it. 20.00.52 # THANKS! 20.00.54 # I'll try that. 20.01.27 # if you have saved my player, I will owe you a beer. 20.04.14 Join lixxus99 [0] (~lixxus@78-86-253-21.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 20.04.56 Part lixxus99 20.04.58 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 20.05.07 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 20.05.22 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@mey199.wlan.design.upenn.edu) 20.13.12 Quit funkyjive (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.17.47 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 20.23.46 Quit AlexP (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.26.39 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 20.34.33 Join Kupop [0] (~Kupo@cpc2-bsfd7-2-0-cust220.5-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 20.38.46 Nick Dreamxtreme is now known as nicktella (~Dre@92.30.239.250) 20.38.58 Nick nicktella is now known as Dreamxtreme (~Dre@92.30.239.250) 20.43.26 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.44.49 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 20.51.29 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 20.56.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.58.33 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng389.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 21.00.56 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.02.04 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.03.38 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 21.05.38 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 21.19.19 Join Gareth [0] (~gareth@www.wiked.org) 21.19.23 # scorche: ping 21.27.14 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3AAA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.39.14 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.40.15 # on the wiki it says "rockbox has been developed from scratch" - does that mean, it is a dedicated firmware, stand-alone and based on nothing, or is there an existing open source operating system underneath, with rockbox being more the "distribution" plus some gui? 21.41.31 # That second option wouldn't match the claim 21.42.15 # The former 21.42.18 # * Buschel wonders whether faster DRAM timings (same clock!) might impact the current consumption 21.42.39 # right, but as i thought it not implausable to run on an existing OS, I wasn't sure whether the claim had to be taken literally 21.42.52 # you should take it literally 21.42.53 # Yes, otherwise it wouldn't be true 21.43.00 # as in literally true 21.43.17 # Buschel: does the nano2g use the arm memory controller or a different samsung one? 21.43.48 # I assume it is the arm one 21.44.06 # so what you're working on may apply to other arm9 cores? 21.44.56 # this work should be nano2g specific. but similar changes could be applied to other targets as well 21.45.18 # i'm not sure if we ever set the memory controller on the AMS players for instance, i wonder if its possible to improve 21.46.08 # well, the nano 2g dram accesses can be sped up quite a bit (at least for unboosted state) 21.46.27 # not sure about the impact to battery current though... 21.46.43 # should have changed 2 things (clock + dram settings) at the same time 21.46.54 # if you're reducing timings I would not thinkt hat makes much difference, but clocks probably do use some power 21.46.55 # should *not* have changed, of course 21.47.41 # We do set *something* about the DRAM for AMS, some kind of mode IIRC 21.47.54 # raising the clock from 192 to 201 MHz (or 24 to 25 MHz) is not that much... 21.48.14 # funman looked into changing the DRAM clock on the arm memory controller (IIRC it has internal clock dividers in addition to the AMS ones) but I think he gave up 21.48.23 # maybe my battery capacity is just decreasing :) 21.49.10 # Buschel: what did you change? you only reduced latency settings? 21.49.33 # that should actually save some current per operation, but probably causes additional current per time (in which more operations are being handled now) 21.50.11 # probably a net savings though due to less boosting 21.50.23 # TheSeven: regarding DRAM -> yes. I also raised the clock by 4% -- but I did not think this would increase current. 21.50.54 # saratoga: mpc and mp3 should not boost during lcd sleep (my use case) 21.51.12 # well dram has some static current associated with refreshing cells, but on top of that the dynamic current should scale linerally with clock 21.51.45 # faster timings just mean memory transactions take less clocks to complete, so those probably don't cost anything 21.51.48 # ...as long as the voltage isn't changed at least 21.51.56 # i suppose increase of current will only take place if you use the time gained for additional accesses of memory. with the same number of accesses, only taking place in shorter or longer time each, net effect should be minimal. 21.51.57 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 21.51.59 # can we even change memory voltage? 21.52.03 # yes 21.52.17 # what an odd thing to put under software control 21.52.31 # the full power manager chip is under software control 21.52.38 # * Buschel needs a way to measure the current consumption woth higher precision 21.53.00 # Vcore, Vmem, Vio, Vnand, Vlcd, Vcodec, and maybe some more 21.53.01 # TheSeven: what voltage is used for DRAM? 21.53.02 # measure voltage over a resistor in the power leads 21.53.14 # Buschel: I'm not sure... might be DOWN2 or MEMLDO 21.53.17 # (small resistor :) ) 21.53.18 # change test codec to poll the current meter continuously and then compute the total joules needed to decode a reference track 21.53.24 Join {-phoenix-} [0] (~dirk@xGagC832.WH1.TU-Dresden.De) 21.53.31 # i suspect DOWN2 while it's powered on and MEMLDO while in self-refresh 21.53.50 # saratoga: hehe 21.53.50 # since quantization error in the annmeter should be zero mean, it will approach zero the longer you test for 21.54.29 # saratoga: the polling itself will use non-neglegible current :/# 21.54.41 # and it doesn't seem to be accurate at all 21.54.55 # apparently it's always off by ~+7mA 21.55.06 # sure but you can still gauge relative changes 21.55.17 # so the only accurate solution if time comes into play is a battery shunt 21.55.21 # i mean its obviously uncalibrated 21.55.43 # but do you really care about absolute accuracy? reproducibility seems more important to me 21.55.52 # anyone has a nano 2g running (mine is charging right now)? the debug screen shows the memory voltage 21.56.53 # it's fine for detecting if one state uses more/less current than the other (even though the 1mA resolution often isn't really accurate enough for that), but if you want to calculate the joules used during a process that takes variable amounts of time, the result will be crap 21.57.16 # saratoga: if there is a loss of <1 mA it will be hard to measure with the internal capabilities as 1 mA is the accuracy of this measurement 21.57.20 # Buschel: running and charging aren't mutually exclusive :) 21.57.39 # it's in emergency disk mode 21.57.47 # hm, why not charge it in rockbox? 21.57.53 # mine says: 21.58.00 # Buschel: 1 ma is the resolution of the measurement, not its accuracy 21.58.02 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 21.58.14 # saratoga: ok ok... 21.58.19 # if you integrate over a long period of time you can make the resolution arbitrarily good 21.58.45 # if the error in the measurement is uncorrelated, you can also make the accuracy arbitrarily good, although that may not be the case 21.58.48 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.58.59 # AUTO: 3300mV, DOWN1: 900mV, DOWN2: 1800mV, MEMLDO: 1800mV, LDO1: 3000mV, LDO2: 3000mV, LDO3: 2600mV, LDO4: 2400mV, LDO5: 3000mV, LDO6: 3000mV 21.59.06 # saratoga: I am not a native speaker, so you need to guess what I meant to say ;) 21.59.30 # what I mean is that if you think of the resolution as the number of bits in the measurement, then you can make more bits by oversampling . . . 21.59.45 # AUTO is the hard drive supply on the classic, unused here. DOWN1 is Vcore, DOWN2 and MEMLDO are probably the memory 22.00.03 # if you have some kind of dither on the signal 22.00.21 # oh, i forgot HCLDO: 3300mV 22.00.22 # since the signal is oscilatting at the MHz level due to the CPU clock, its already dithered 22.00.58 # TheSeven: 1.8V seems right. min is 1.7V, max is 1.85V (taken from DRAM data sheet) 22.01.26 # oops, typo: max is 1.95V 22.01.30 # in practice you will be limited by pink noise - the slow drift in the electronics over long periods of time, but if you just want to get down to a resolution of a hundred microamps, thats not very hard to do i think 22.01.59 # LDO1: still unknown (Vio?), LDO2: clickwheel, LDO3: LCD and probably the USB oscillator, LDO4: codec, LDO5: NAND, LDO6: unknown, HCLDO: accessory 22.02.16 # saratoga: we could just simply use the dynamic runtime estimation patch and print out the estimated current 22.02.28 # yeah 22.02.40 # we probably won't want to use a weighed estimate here 22.02.50 # just add up all the samples and divide them through the sample count 22.03.17 # and if you want it to be accurate over different time frames, substract some correction value which is in the 6-7mA range as far as i can tell 22.03.43 Join Stephen__ [0] (~S@86.42.179.232) 22.04.32 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.04.48 # well, i could just make a dirty hack and add up all measures and divide by the amount of measures in the battery debug screen :) 22.06.17 # this will work *if* the measured current is "floating around" the real current 22.06.36 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.07.38 # TheSeven: btw, another thing. didn't you mention the nano's graphic buffer was in IRAM? it is not. there is a define which is not set. 22.08.02 # no, i didn't say that 22.08.16 # ok, then this was misunderstood 22.08.24 # and i'm not sure if it would help at all 22.08.36 # not from your measurements... 22.15.15 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-189-171.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.21.32 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.26.31 Join thegeek [0] (~nnscript@172.80-203-148.nextgentel.com) 22.29.07 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.52.183) 22.33.05 Join thegeek_ [0] (~nnscript@172.80-203-148.nextgentel.com) 22.33.07 Quit thegeek_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.34.08 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.35.19 # Gareth: hi - i got the email 22.36.26 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 22.36.26 # scorche|sh: excellent. hope it doesn't conflict with your birthday again? :) 22.37.02 # Gareth: for the first time in 3 years (i think), no! ;) 22.37.12 # scorche|sh: woo! :) 22.37.13 # Gareth: i still need to check my schedule though 22.37.24 # scorche|sh: okay cool. let me know. 22.38.03 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7ED26.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.39.00 Quit Sundiver (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.39.14 Join Sundiver [0] (~Philip@174.124.77.170) 22.39.42 # averaged current measurements show: few impact due to DRAM settings (saves 0.2 mA for unboosted), clock raised from 48->50 MHz needs +0.4 mA, 192->201 MHz needs +0.6 mA 22.44.11 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-174-240.student.uu.se) 22.44.21 Quit n1s (Changing host) 22.44.21 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 22.52.08 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) 22.56.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.03.41 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 23.10.15 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.16.38 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 23.16.58 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.17.28 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 23.19.19 Quit crwl (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.20.13 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23.24.30 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.27.16 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.34.09 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 23.36.26 Join ReimuHakurei__ [0] (~reimu@84.19.169.162) 23.38.39 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.46.09 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 23.48.50 Nick ReimuHakurei__ is now known as ReimuHakurei (~reimu@84.19.169.162) 23.50.23 Quit Kupop (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.55.16 Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 23.56.08 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.58.59 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)